Zeta's Wrong Concerning "Chandra Levy Case"

From: "nancylieder" zetatalk@z...(tt-watch)
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2001 11:23 pm
Subject: Re: Out of Touch Telepath, etc.

TheSmallKahuna wrote:
> The Zeta's seem to be saying that because of free will,
> one has a choice as to receive an implant or not.
> The Cassiopean site makes a slightly different claim.
> One does not necessarily have a choice as to whether
> or not an implant is present, one has a choice to listen to
> the internal bias such a thing generates. The Cassiopean
> site also claims that there is no such thing as an STO
> implant because there is no need for such a thing.

I'm asked daily, if not many times daily, to reconcile ZetaTalk with
this or that. A says, and B says, but ZetaTalk says, so please
reconcile. In that at least half (per the Zetas) of what is written
is just made up, deliberately, by someone wanting attention or money
or because they are a disinfo artist and are paid to do it, and a good
percentage of the REAL channeled work (per the Zetas) are twisted by
the channel who does not want to come to grips with whatever is being
said, or perfumed by the entities channeling as they cannot bear to
announce painful truth (as in the Pleiadeans and the coming pole
shift), or a matter of interpretation or misunderstanding.

WHY do you accept that the Cassiopean site is anything BUT a disinfo
arm, or pure bull shit, or whatever?

ZetaTalk has an accuracy track record, on their statements made in
1995, their prediction, etc. 100%. These other sites do NOT, do
they? Cayce at least made statements that could be followed up on.
HE was valid. We are the Annunaki is, per the Zetas, just a money
making scheme for the prime lady there, Jalia or whatever her name is.
She won't predict, won't take question if on a live radio show (which
the Zetas freely do), and nothing she says can be checked! For
instance, on a live radio show with New York this past year, they were
questions about the missing Congressmans girlfriend, the one who was
going to return to California but went missing. The Zetas said she
was amnesia, not dead, and was in Mexico, and would likely not ever be
found. Of course I hold my breath, with the intensity of this
investigation, looking for her body, but this has NOT been found.
Zetas right again!

So, track record of this Cassiopean site, which you place along side
ZetaTalk, and demand a reconciliation, please?

Nancy's Effort To Extricate The Zetas From This Blunder :

Less than 48 hours after readers of tt-watch and tt-social began to raise questions over the innacurate ZetaTalk concerning Chandra Levy, Nancy was forced to address the issue in the ZetaTalk IRC session on May 25, 2002.

<NancyL> ZT: The missing person episode of the year, perhaps of the decade, was the Chandra Levy case.

<NancyL> ZT: On major media, night after night, in the scandal rags, on Oprah, and with a web site devoted to the search, active for the entire time she was missing until her body was found.

<NancyL> ZT: This hit the international news also, as CNN and FOX and other media giants go global.

<NancyL> ZT: Did they not use dogs during the concentric circles they drew from her likely path outward, through the part?

<NancyL> ZT: Was the body not ABOVE GROUND, where rotting would attract dogs and wildlife, if not call the body to the attention of passing joggers by the ROT?

<NancyL> ZT: Could the body not be seen after the leaves fell from the trees, by a small plane passing overhead, given the clothing supposedly nearby?

<NancyL> ZT: Bodies left above ground are torn apart and carried about by dogs or cats or other carnivors that live in city parks quite comfortably.

<NancyL> ZT: Coyotes, for instance, are urban residents.

<NancyL> ZT: An arm, a leg, a shoulder bone, found at a distance from the body.

<NancyL> ZT: But NONE of this was the case, the skeletal remains intact!

<NancyL> ZT: Thus, one could conclude that 1. the body did not ROT there, 2. the body was MOVED there.

<NancyL> ZT: Who moved the body, and why?

<NancyL> ZT: Given the media exposure, and the sensitivity of the Congressman who clearly wished to return to Congress and be re-elected, this was an open invitation for blackmail and delivery.

<NancyL> ZT: A blackmail attempt was made, denied, and delivery done to embarrass the Congressman.

<NancyL> ZT: Was she murdered to fulfill this threat? Yes, and well in advance of the finding of the bones.

<NancyL> ZT: Look to the viciousness of the Mexican drug cartels, for the methods they would use.

<NancyL> ZT: Chandra was identifiable, her face everywhere in the papers and on the web.

<NancyL> ZT: The Congressman was likewise identifiable, his district and Washington DC address in the media constantly.

<NancyL> ZT: Thus, this contraditions is NOT a contradiction, in that the statements given in the summer of 2001 were correct, but the situation in the hands of man, subject to change, which it did.

<NancyL> ZT: She was found on the streets in Mexico, dazed and confused, and thus taken and used for blackmail.

<NancyL> ZT: It was not deemed that contacting her parents would work, in that they feared a live body being able to identify those demaning money.

<NancyL> ZT: Thus she was quickly killed, and put out to rot in the sun.

Loyal believers show their desperate need for the ZetaTalk message to be proven "right again" :

From: slugga659@a...
Date: Sun May 26, 2002 12:32 am
Subject: Re: [tt-social] Chandra Levy statement

It seems the Zetas were either just plain wrong or there was some
missunderstanding. They had stated earlier to judge channeled work by it's
accuracy in predictions (although technically it's not channeled), although
they have been correct in many of their predictions, notably the finding of
an uncharted object at their coordinants, and this particular issue didn't
seem to be crucial to the whole Zeta message. However, it is an outstanding
question in my mind, just how they could be so off. I have considered the
fact that it seems, even with the Zetas high tech equipment, tracking people
is no easy business or else they wouldn't need implants. Still, it is
something that needs to be adressed.

peace

D.P.

From: viper34562@a...
Date: Sun May 26, 2002 12:40 am
Subject: Re: [tt-social] Chandra Levy statement/Reply

Has anyone considered that the body may NOT be who they say it is? Wouldn't
be the first time misinformation was broadcast by the press.

If it is her body, then her family can bring this aspect of their lives to an
end.

Either way, in the Empirical picture it matters little.

Viper

From: "mw3172001" <milly@w...
Date: Sun May 26, 2002 1:28 am
Subject: Re: Chandra Levy statement/Reply

I haven't heard anything about DNA. It seems the dental records matched, the
jewelry matched, (although the Walkman and jogging clothes may not be hers,
since she didn't jog, per her friends), and voila, she's identified. So it
would have been easy to take some victim or corpse and knock out, cap, and fill
its teeth to match Chandra's dental records, (I've read a few John Clancy
novels), plant the skull and bones along a well-traveled jogging path that was
already previously searched for weeks by teams of police, and when our
intelligence agencies are involved, and I'm sure they were if there was amnesia
and a sudden relocation to Mexico, then there's a lot more to her story that
the Zeta's could address if they were asked.

The timing of the find conveniently distracts from the 9/11 probe for awhile
as well.

"Police said Friday they still do not know if Chandra Levy died where her
remains were found or if someone dumped her body there...Police have said
little about the remains, other than to say the skull was not 'pristine' and
the bones were scattered. Tennis shoes, a jogging bra, and a sweat shirt also
were found. Police have been sifting through dirt and leaves looking for
blood, hair, clothing fibers and other evidence."[-AP]


Milly

Sci.astro newsgroup responds to Chandra Levy ZetaTalk

Shortly after the May 25, 2002 ZetaTalk IRC session in which the Zetas made their case for Chandra Levy's dissapearance, Jan Rypdal felt the need to send the relevant portion of the IRC session to sci.astro. The responses to his posting are below.

From: Wally Anglesea™ <wanglese@spbigpondam.net.au>
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Chandra Levy (Was: Planet X: When to Start Looking?)
Message-ID: <2ja1fusnhg5r2rf8p08o5fohobldfje24r@4ax.com>
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 09:28:42 GMT

On Sun, 26 May 2002 10:43:58 +0200, "Jan" <not@home.com> wrote:

<BIG SNIP>

What I find interesting in this mental gymnastics played out by the
beleivers in a vain attempt to keep their fantasy alive, is that the
zetans have all this knowledge, yet they can only reveal it after the
body is found.

Yet they never told anyone where to look.

So much for the zetans....

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From: David Paterson <david.paterson@noluncheonmeat.btinternet.com>
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Chandra Levy (Was: Planet X: When to Start Looking?)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 10:41:34 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dne1fukq26m8c2jo8jb7kbdvpkf5bv5sv8@4ax.com>

>On Sun, 26 May 2002 10:43:58 +0200, "Jan" <not@home.com> wrote:
>

LOL - You'd think with everyone on sci.astro _expecting_ some sort of
complicated and unbelievable excuse, the Zetadrones would think twice
before actually posting it here :-))

They must be even stupider than these 100% infallible Zetas that
supposedly tell them everything.

DP

Message-ID: <3CF11A06.6070500@wwt.net>
From: Thomas McDonald <tsmac@wwt.net>
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Chandra Levy (Was: Planet X: When to Start Looking?)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 12:23:18 -0500

Wally Anglesea^(TM) wrote:

> On Sun, 26 May 2002 10:43:58 +0200, "Jan" <not@home.com> wrote:
>
> <BIG SNIP>
>
> What I find interesting in this mental gymnastics played out by the
> beleivers in a vain attempt to keep their fantasy alive, is that the
> zetans have all this knowledge, yet they can only reveal it after the
> body is found.
>
> Yet they never told anyone where to look.
>
> So much for the zetans....
>
>

Wally, et al.,

Not only that, but they didn't tell us where she was when she
was still alive, amnesiac, kidnapped, in Mexico, with the
evil drug cartel folks. One might imagine that Zetan STO
might extend to telling us where she was _when she was still
alive_, so she could have been rescued.

But no, the Zetans and their flack here on earth deem it more
important to give cryptic predicitons that would do $ollog
proud, entirely for the purpose of roping in the rubes.

Of course, ZT's explication of things is just more
self-serving (STS!) bullshit. The official Zetan story will
change again once the full forensic and other evidence is in
that will show their pathetic, ghoulish statements for the
lies that they are and have been.

The most frustrating thing of all, IMHO, is that this
episode, in all its sordidness and lack of humanity or
respect for truth, will probably not lose the Nanzeta any of
her flock. Her sheep, little wooly forelocks combed thickly
over their eyes, will bleet their agreement with Nancy's
spin on this tragic event, and go on preparing to suicide
next May.

Tom McDonald

Message-ID: <3CF11EE6.8000401@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael L. Cunningham" <bogeystar@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Chandra Levy (Was: Planet X: When to Start Looking?)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 17:44:13 GMT

Jan wrote:


> ZT: Could the body not be seen after the leaves fell from the trees, by a
> small plane passing overhead, given the clothing supposedly nearby?


Small planes? LOL! Nancy knows nothing about how searches are conducted!


> ZT: Bodies left above ground are torn apart and carried about by dogs or
> cats or other carnivors that live in city parks quite comfortably.
> ZT: Coyotes, for instance, are urban residents.
> ZT: An arm, a leg, a shoulder bone, found at a distance from the body.
> ZT: But NONE of this was the case, the skeletal remains intact!


Intact? HAHAHA! The body had decomposed and WAS scattered. ONly the
skull was partially intact.


> ZT: Thus, one could conclude that
> 1. the body did not ROT there,
> 2. the body was MOVED there.
> ZT: Who moved the body, and why?
> ZT: Given the media exposure, and the sensitivity of the Congressman who
> clearly wished to return to Congress and be re-elected, this was an open
> invitation for blackmail and delivery.
> ZT: A blackmail attempt was made, denied, and delivery done to embarrass the
> Congressman.
> ZT: Was she murdered to fulfill this threat? Yes, and well in advance of
> the finding of the bones.
> ZT: Look to the viciousness of the Mexican drug cartels, for the methods
> they would use.
> ZT: Chandra was identifiable, her face everywhere in the papers and on the
> web.
> ZT: The Congressman was likewise identifiable, his district and Washington
> DC address in the media constantly.
> ZT: Thus, this contradictions is NOT a contradiction, in that the statements
> given in the summer of 2001 were correct, but the situation in the hands
> of man, subject to change, which it did.
> ZT: She was found on the streets in Mexico, dazed and confused, and thus
> taken and used for blackmail.
> ZT: It was not deemed that contacting her parents would work, in that they
> feared a live body being able to identify those demanding money.
> ZT: Thus she was quickly killed, and put out to rot in the sun.
> End ZT.
>
> Regards,
> Jan


Never in my life have I've seen a group of idiots lie to themselves to
convince themselves that their leader is correct! Nice job on moderating
tt-watch too Jan and protecting Nancy's "good" name. Only one of my
posts got through. Guess it was enough of a threat to your flock.

Why do you constantly post here? You must love getting spanked in public.

Moron.

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From: sarahmac@hotpop.com (Sarah Mc)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Chandra Levy (Was: Planet X: When to Start Looking?)
Date: 26 May 2002 12:10:19 -0700
Message-ID: <3c09ad3.0205261110.16327115@posting.google.com>

"Jan" <not@home.com> wrote in message news:<3cf0a36e_2@news2.prserv.net>...
>
> From the ZetaTalk chat May 25:

<snip a bunch of total hogwash that only Nancy could dream up>

Geez Jan, I guess since you're already a known ZetaCult doomsday
believer that it didn't matter that you post even more idiocy from
your cult leader.

Everytime you open your mouth on this newsgroup you make yourself out
to be a bigger fool. Are you so concerned with with your cult
leader's failures that you have to resort to making yourself out to be
an idiot?

Gawd, Jan. Take a look in the mirror - is that a moron looking back at
you?

You'd be best served by keeping quiet and just letting Nancy dig her
own grave. She does that just fine without your idiotic help. Get your
nose out of Nancy's ass and get a real life.

From: imopenmind@netscape.net (I M Openmind)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Chandra Levy (Was: Planet X: When to Start Looking?)
Date: 26 May 2002 15:52:16 -0700
Message-ID: <c6cdf9f8.0205261452.69c932f3@posting.google.com>

"Jan" <not@home.com> wrote in message news:<3cf0a36e_2@news2.prserv.net>...


What I find interesting about this post is the way that the ZT quotes
show both interest and understanding of many details of human affairs,
capabilities, etc. Surely if Nancy can follow this sort of data
input, she can understand what we have been asking about just how
bright her planet should have appeared last January and how bright it
should appear next July. Come on Nnacy, no hiding behind lack of
understanding. How could Havas have seen your planet when it was
impossible for a human to see, even with the telescope he was using.
Give us a clear, specific, answer.

From: Stig Bull <stig.bull@no.spam.cds.no>
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Chandra Levy (Was: Planet X: When to Start Looking?)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 08:26:00 +0200
Message-ID: <acsjoc$ef4$3@oslo-nntp.eunet.no>

Jan wrote:


> ZT: It was not deemed that contacting her parents would work, in that they
> feared a live body being able to identify those demanding money.
> ZT: Thus she was quickly killed, and put out to rot in the sun.
> End ZT.

[ snip ]

Told you so.


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Subject: Re: Planet X: When to Start Looking?
From: Nancy Lieder <zetatalk@zetatalk.com>
Newsgroups: sci.astro

Sarah Mc (sarahmac@hotpop.com ) wrote:
>Message 7563 on the TT-watch Yahoo group
>From: "nancylieder" <zetatalk@z...>
>Date: Wed Dec 12, 2001 11:23 pm
>Subject: Re: Out of Touch Telepath, etc
>
>So much for Zeta "accuracy".

They found the bones a mile of so from where Levy and Condit lived, in a
park she frequented, which was likewise on her computer as a map she
referenced just before leaving, in any area REPEATEDLY SEARCHED, on this
widely discussed missing persons case (on Opra, and with a constant web
presence http://www.chandralevy.com, in the scandal rags, and on the
news), yet her bones were found ON TOP of the ground, where the stench
of a ROTTING BODY alone would draw attention to it. Did they not use
search dogs in the search? The immediate thought was that that body had
been PLACED there, after the searching stopped. Sorry, Sarah, like the
prediction that Gore would win the election (which he did, popular vote,
and we'll never know about Florida as they were ordered by the
Republican dominated Supreme Court to stop the counting), this was an
issue in the hands of man, subject to change because of that.

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