The "Cult" of Sarah Mc
This section is dedicated to the tireless efforts of those individuals participating in the discussion on the sci.astro usenet group.
The "cult" being attacked without mercy by the individual known on sci.astro as Sarah Mc, is none other than ZetaTalk and Troubled Times/Troubled Times Inc. The cult leader being attacked is Nancy Lieder. It is likely that these attacks upon the cult will not stop until Nancy Lieder discontinues her repetitive, off-topic and conspiratorial rantings in this ASTRONOMY newsgroup. However, Nancy Lieder will not stop in her efforts to use sci.astro as a forum in which to recruit more of her followers. So, with that said ... let the attacks begin!
A Sample Of Sarah's Unique Style :
Subject: Re: Planet X: What SIZE to Expect?
From: sarahmac@hotpop.com (Sarah Mc)
Newsgroups: sci.astro


Isn't it curious that when Nancy can't answer a question, neither can
the Zetas? No matter how simple or how complex, neither one of them
can answer the question.

If it's complex or scientific, Nancy says that it violates the "rules
of engagement" and the information can't be disclosed - or the we
"humans" wouldn't understand it anyhow, or that it would be "dangerous
to us".

If it's simple, the Zetas just don't answer it. When pressed by her
cult members to answer, Nancy comes to sci.astro and acts as if the
Zetas had nothing to do with the question in the first place.

All this came about because the Zetas were asked a question. Nancy
couldn't fake an answer, so the "Zetas" sidestepped the issue - until
Nancy had a chance to ask the "disinformation agents" for an answer.

And yet after constant episodes like the above, people are still
stupid enough to believe she's talking to Aliens. The only "alien" she
has contact with is Jan.

After all, Nancy has claimed her fantasy planet has been visible for 7
years. She just changes the story whenever it's convienient. In 1996
it was a "magnitude 2.0 naked eye object" according to the Zetas. But
in June 2002 the Zetas couldn't tell you when it would be visible in
an amateur telescope.

---------------archived---------------------

From: Nancy (saquo@ix.netcom.com)
Subject: Re: Twelfth Planet Missing!
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Date: 1996/01/06

<snip archive>

The 12th Planet, a magnitude 2.0
object at the current time having just come into visibility by the
naked eye, does NOT have the appearance of a star, as it is a dull
glow, slightly reddish in appearance due to the iron in the dust that
follow it. Whatever you do, folks, don't take the word of
disinformation specialists. Do your own looking!

(End ZetaTalk)

<snip archive>

Now it's thousands of times "dimmer" at what she claims as mag20. It's
no longer "naked eye", as she changed that to "telescope assisted",
and then later to "computer assisted".

She claims the "red color" is now from it's own internal origin,
rather than from "iron dust" that follows it. That "iron dust" is
today refered to as "swirling moons" that follow the planet.

Note that in 1996, she was refering to the people of sci.astro as
"disinformation specialists", and here she is in 2002 asking those
same "disinformation specialists" for answers that her "Zetas" can't
provide for her cult members.

I guess Nancy just assumes that everyone else in the world is as
stupid, gullible and ignorant as she is.
Sarah "On The Record" :
2001-10-25 09:42:45 PST Pyramids as Planet X sighting device??
2001-11-24 14:19:45 PST The Sun has no South Pole (OT)
2001-11-29 04:01:39 PST Planet X: 3 Observatories PRESENT
2001-11-29 04:00:27 PST Zetas RIGHT Again! (Summary 1)
2001-11-29 03:59:31 PST Zetas RIGHT Again! (Summary 2)
2001-11-29 04:00:40 PST Planet X: 3 Observatories PAST
2001-12-13 13:34:45 PST Planet X: PIONEER Role in the Search
2001-12-20 12:23:55 PST I spoke to Nancy online and all I got was this lousy t-shirt!
2001-12-20 11:21:14 PST Planet X Observatory REFUSAL #2
2001-12-25 05:12:42 PST Where is the serious questions?
2002-02-23 09:54:48 PST For Nancy: questions for your "advanced" Zetans
2002-02-24 12:08:30 PST Fear and Panic in the ZetaCult
2002-02-27 10:44:07 PST Planet X: DEC 5th Image!
2002-02-27 10:46:00 PST Planet X: Neat NEAT Trick
2002-02-27 10:44:50 PST Planet X: COMPARISON on Jan 5th Images
2001-12-30 06:02:25 PST Troubled Times Inc (Was: Where is the serious questions?)
2002-01-14 13:15:23 PST Planet X: SCAM ARTIST on Art Bell
2002-01-10 00:32:06 PST OK Nancy, Where Is It?
2002-02-03 20:42:02 PST Imaging Planet X
2002-03-09 08:24:06 PST Regarding Planet X Debate...
2002-04-02 12:16:04 PST Planet X: ALTERNATE EXPLANATION!
2002-04-06 10:03:54 PST Planet X: The UNCERTAINTIES
2002-04-06 10:01:29 PST Planet X: Right to KNOW
2002-04-06 10:02:34 PST Planet X: 100% SURE?
2002-04-06 17:01:45 PST Planet X: Messenger?s CHOICE
2002-04-11 05:55:02 PST OT: Current Magnitude of Planet X, per Zetas?
2002-04-06 16:26:15 PST Planet X: ZetaTalk ACCURACY
2002-02-28 19:25:47 PST Planet X: Changing the PAST?
2002-04-03 22:19:09 PST Planet X cults
2002-04-18 09:20:09 PST ZetaTalk Bashing: Cuts Both Ways
2002-04-27 07:48:28 PST Nancy proven wrong!
2002-04-28 13:35:25 PST Zetas RIGHT Again! : Moon Swirl
2002-05-04 21:22:17 PST Planet X: Alternate Explanation in JUNE
2002-05-18 14:24:28 PST Nancy went wild Apr 20
2002-07-14 09:09:56 PST Planet X: Run and HIDE! #3
2002-05-28 08:28:03 PST Planet X: Alternate Explanation 4
2002-07-28 07:55:43 PST Another person who Nutty Nancy may have to account to...
2002-08-04 18:26:19 PST Grow up guys, Zetatalk is true
2002-08-05 10:11:15 PST Nancy backpedals like mad
2002-08-06 16:59:06 PST fsck u
2002-08-07 16:44:47 PST Earth might go into 4th density
2002-08-09 13:27:17 PST Question About Zetatalk
2002-08-10 08:28:45 PST I do believe it religiously
2002-08-11 06:20:27 PST you're not just arguing against nancy
2002-08-13 07:20:58 PST Planet X: Visible SIZE, Estimate?
2002-08-18 23:47:13 PST Re: What Nancy Says About CONTOUR
2002-08-25 10:41:06 PST Planet X: the Zeta REASONS
2002-10-02 11:40:18 PST Planet X: Sep 15, 2002 IMAGES
2002-11-09 12:07:00 PST Zetas RIGHT Again! (Domino Quakes)
(more to be added soon)
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