George Gantner Resignation
From: "Gantner, George"
Date: Wed Mar 20, 2002 10:20 pm
Subject: Resignation

I apologize in advance for cross posting this lengthy message.

It is with regret that I feel I must take the following actions:

Effective immediately, I resign from the Posse.

Effective immediately, I resign from the Membership Committee of Troubled
Times, of which I have been the only active member for well over a year. I
have been maintaining the Inc Membership and Prospect lists all that time,
including the most recent additions of 3/6/2002 and I have uploaded them to
the tt-inc files section. Hopefully somebody will take over the maintenance
of those lists.

These lists and the Inc have been deteriorating for quite a while. Since
Ron Darby and Sol were driven out, the Inc has been underachieving on
projects and has been completely without recruiting efforts. The funding
promised when Ron was gone has not materialized; at least, not as far as
anyone outside the board knows, since there has been no annual report for
2001 yet. On the side of the lists, the content has also deteriorated over
time. The tt-forum list has very little activity. The tt-watch list has
been lively, but mostly not for the right reasons.

Though I have had increasing doubts about this whole organization for some
time, and especially about the increasingly unbelievable pronouncements of
the Zetas, I have done my best to do my part to maintain an open and
informative discussion through my moderation efforts. However, the bogus
votecall to reconstruct the posse was the last straw for me and is the
reason I am resigning my official posts.

First of all, as I said, I have been maintaining the official list of tt-inc
members and content contributors, based on Nancy's input from her web
wrapping efforts. This should have been the list used to send the votecall
in the first place (if a votecall were actually required). Yet Nancy did
not request a copy of this list, and any copy she has is very out of date.
I know that at least some people who received ballots were not on the list
of content contributors, and thus shouldn't vote. Also, more people voted
to maintain the posse roster as is, including Laura, than voted to add Jan.
Yet Laura is out and Jan is in.

There is a section of ZetaTalk which speaks of statistics and how they can
be manipulated http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s52.htm .
I can vouch for the truth of this page, as I understand these techniques due
to my 30 years' employment in the marketing research field as a software
developer and research manager. To quote from this page:
"Humans have a saying, that one can lie with statistics, because numbers can
be manipulated to support any argument. If one wants to demonstrate that the
populace is not starving, one adjusts the threshold where starvation sets
in. If the numbers run up on one group don't look so good, pick another
group. If the average is too low or high, go for the median and arrange to
discard the high or low end. Statistics, done honestly, can make a statement
like no other, but done dishonestly are deeply deceptive because the
readership believes the numbers have been run up honestly....However, they
are likewise being increasingly challenged. What was included? How did you
arrive at these figures? The squeeze is on. An easy out in these
circumstances is to make the formulas more complicated. Then the common man
can't understand and the factors can be argued endlessly."
To be blunt, Nancy fudged the votecall results to give her the desired
result, that of installing Jan as censor of the lists. Since his
installation into the posse, Jan has begun weeding out dissenting and
skeptical voices, effectively ending discussion about Nibiru on tt-watch.
Jan's attitude and approach are dangerous. In his own words from 2/26
speaking of STO camps: "A full democracy will be the goal, but since there
may be undecided or even STS persons in the camp with their own agendas, the
necessary dictatorship will be in place to protect against any STS actions
like takeover attempts." The war cry of the dictator. STO indeed. The
prospect of Nibiru passing by and flipping our planet in fourteen months
from now or not is too important an issue to stifle discussion on.
Thus, I am ending my official capacity with Troubled Times and the lists,
and have created another list called ZetaAstro, where free discussion on ALL
sides of the Nibiru / Planet X issue are welcome and encouraged. I want
both believers and nonbelievers to participate, as I believe critical
thinking and in-depth analysis of an issue requires all sides of an issue to
be examined. I will be issuing invitations shortly (if you don't get one,
it's an oversight, you just joined recently, or Yahoogroups is just being
slow). I hope you will at least consider joining, and read the group
introduction and first welcome message. It explains where I'm coming from
in more detail. If you don't want to participate, so be it, delete the
invitation and go in peace.
I want to thank the many of you who I continue to count among my friends
here, especially the old posse. Clipper, please remove my moderator
privileges from all the lists and unsubscribe me from tt-posse. Please
leave me subscribed to the other lists. I will remain around, just way in
the background and not in an official capacity.
God bless you all.
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