The Skeptical Mind : ZetaTalk, The Grand Conspiracy 1995

From: "planetx2003 <planetx2003@y...>" <planetx2003@y...>
Date: Mon Jan 20, 2003 7:30 am
Subject: Nancy Lieder fraud=NASA px patsy

Nancy Lieder fraud=NASA px patsy

For those who are die-hard Nancy Lieder fans it's now time to wake up
from this child-like-state-of-acceptance of who Nancy claims to be
and realize why the PTB created her. Nancy was created by the powers-
that-be as a patsy for the Planet X subject. This is someone that
the disinfo crew can ridicule and say that is where all the Planet X
information is coming from; an elderly lady who speaks with aliens.

The PTB knew there would be many credible leaks at this time in
regards to Planet X so they needed to create their own negative focus
for Planet X that was not credible. This whole Nancy Lieder fraud
has been ongoing since 1995! They wanted to be able to take it to
its natural conclusion and ridicule her when Planet X didn't show up
during her stated time frame and say "See Planet X is all nonsense
and that crazy Nancy lady is where it all steams from."

1. Since posting this original message that James McCanney sent me
about the so-called pximages from Steve Havas being fed to Nancy
Lieder being given to Nancy from NASA. (The ptb-disinfo-crew-NASA-CIA-
Nancy Lieder have already written to me asking which images James
looked at with the NASA server codes so they can clean-up their act
and so that the codes won't accidently come up again for anyone
else. I'm sorry, but the cat has feathers in it's mouth. We know
where the bird is. (thank you James McC for these last 2 lines)

2. There is no Planet X at the coordinates being given out. For 4
months straight these fake coordinates have been used to fraudulently
persuade the public that Nancy is using inside information given to
her exclusively by aliens known as zetas or greys. Nobody else is
seeing anything there at these coordinate what-so-ever! If there
were something to it hundreds of others across the globe would have
created their own images and posted them independently on the
internet. Nancy said there are hundreds of people imaging PX using
her NASA given coordinates but are scared to post what they find for
fear of being ridiculed like she is. Scared people on the internet?
Are you kidding? With the disclosure of real coordinates and images
millions of lives could be saved. Humanitarian people across the
globe certainly wouldn't be scared to help their fellow man like this.

3. Nancy is supposed to be helping people awaken to the fact that PX
is inbound and yet every chance she gets she trys to discredit anyone
elses information that doesn't come from her as fraudulent.
a. She states James McCanney is dolt (an idiot or stupid). Anyone in
the right mind can see James is a brilliant modern day genius of
celestial mechanics. NASA's own Cornell University would only have
hired him as part of their faculty if he was more than just competent
to teach in both their physics and math departments. This is in part
Jim's backround.

4. The disinfo-crew Nancy clearly states on her website that all the
information in my text (where I reference at least 50 others) is
gleaned from Nancy's site! If you've read my book you would know
absolutely this is a another clear lie! They want to tie me in with
her as just another zetaclone with no credibilty or alternate sources
for Planet X information and take me down with Nancy when they think
its time to do so. This is why on the zetatalk site you'll see my
name on the left front page with $$ signs next to it. They are also
trying to say that I'm money motivated and don't have the publics
best interests in mind. Nancy also sells a book and tapes.

5. They say I was lying when I talked to the triple doctorate in June
2002 who immediately got on the phone to me and stated 100%
confirmed. He got to view Planet X with 24 other via a live Hubble
link up. Nancy is saying because of her bogus PX coordinates, it was
too close to the sun at that time for the Hubble to see then. Why do
you thinks she attacks McCanney and I and our info as not credible?
NASA has arranged (with her cooperation) to make Nancy Lieder the
fall guy to get the public to turn away from all the quality Planet X
good data that exists at a certain point in time when it is obvious
to everyone that she is knowingly engaged in fraud and in bed with
NASA!

6. Nancy is also saying that unknown people are looking for me that I
owe money to and I work for The CIA. That I raised money from some
unknown persons promising a safe place to live. I haven't even
secured one myself at this time! Excuse me but I post my real
telephone numbers on the internet and addresse. I've don't owe
anyone anything and nobody is looking for me. I give live public
talks (not hidden behind the internet) and have 3 coming right up.
One in Huntsville Alabama the 24th of January. The next in Laughlin
Nevada Feb. 2-8 and now March 9th in Colorado with SPRE.

7. The powers that be that owned Art Bell's show and now Coast to
Coast have never let me back on and have never let James McCanney on
the air once to discuss Planet X and yet they've had Nancy Lieder on
3 times. The CIA disinfo egroup prep2003 run by D and V has stated
I've been on Arts show 3 times. Excuse me I was allowed on once
January 16/17 2002. Nancy was also asked back a 4th time on the last
show she did. Nancy is being set up with her complete cooperation to
take the Planet X fall and turn the public away from knowledge that
could save their lives. This is criminal!

8. While NASA and their cohorts prepare for Planet X's arrival they
are doing the best with this elaborate scheme to defraud (of which
Nancy is the center) to get others to ignore the situation!

9. It should be crystal clear to you that if Nancy Lieder had the
publics interests AT HEART she would not be attacking and creating
fabrications about others who are helping with the awakening.
However, since that is NOT HER GOAL her modus operandi fits perfectly
with someone who is working with NASA to dissuade the public from the
reality of this situation. Yes, there will always be a few that hang
on her every supposive zeta word. Her goal is to effect the general
public away from Planet X info. A few misquided souls who can't see
the writing on the wall or choose not to as to who she is or what her
motivation is, will always exist.

This is one email you'all should save. These people are still going
to go ahead with their scheme to use their Nancy creation to ridicule
PX further down the way. I'm going on record now as stating what they
are up to ahead of time.

Mark H


	Nancy Lieder fraud=NASA px patsy
	As it became more apparent that ZetaTalk's Planet X was a "no-show", Mark Hazlewood decided it was in his best interest to put as much distance between himself and Nancy Lieder as possible. He needed to accomplish this back-peddling before Lieder's date of doom came and went without any sign of the predicted apocalypse. All of Mark Hazlewood's efforts to this effect were an attempt to preserve his prospects for continuing his book and tape sales well after ZetaTalk had left the internet.
	From: "planetx2003 <planetx2003@y...>" <planetx2003@y...> Date: Mon Jan 20, 2003 7:30 am Subject: Nancy Lieder fraud=NASA px patsy Nancy Lieder fraud=NASA px patsy For those who are die-hard Nancy Lieder fans it's now time to wake up from this child-like-state-of-acceptance of who Nancy claims to be and realize why the PTB created her. Nancy was created by the powers- that-be as a patsy for the Planet X subject. This is someone that the disinfo crew can ridicule and say that is where all the Planet X information is coming from; an elderly lady who speaks with aliens. The PTB knew there would be many credible leaks at this time in regards to Planet X so they needed to create their own negative focus for Planet X that was not credible. This whole Nancy Lieder fraud has been ongoing since 1995! They wanted to be able to take it to its natural conclusion and ridicule her when Planet X didn't show up during her stated time frame and say "See Planet X is all nonsense and that crazy Nancy lady is where it all steams from." 1. Since posting this original message that James McCanney sent me about the so-called pximages from Steve Havas being fed to Nancy Lieder being given to Nancy from NASA. (The ptb-disinfo-crew-NASA-CIA- Nancy Lieder have already written to me asking which images James looked at with the NASA server codes so they can clean-up their act and so that the codes won't accidently come up again for anyone else. I'm sorry, but the cat has feathers in it's mouth. We know where the bird is. (thank you James McC for these last 2 lines) 2. There is no Planet X at the coordinates being given out. For 4 months straight these fake coordinates have been used to fraudulently persuade the public that Nancy is using inside information given to her exclusively by aliens known as zetas or greys. Nobody else is seeing anything there at these coordinate what-so-ever! If there were something to it hundreds of others across the globe would have created their own images and posted them independently on the internet. Nancy said there are hundreds of people imaging PX using her NASA given coordinates but are scared to post what they find for fear of being ridiculed like she is. Scared people on the internet? Are you kidding? With the disclosure of real coordinates and images millions of lives could be saved. Humanitarian people across the globe certainly wouldn't be scared to help their fellow man like this. 3. Nancy is supposed to be helping people awaken to the fact that PX is inbound and yet every chance she gets she trys to discredit anyone elses information that doesn't come from her as fraudulent. a. She states James McCanney is dolt (an idiot or stupid). Anyone in the right mind can see James is a brilliant modern day genius of celestial mechanics. NASA's own Cornell University would only have hired him as part of their faculty if he was more than just competent to teach in both their physics and math departments. This is in part Jim's backround. 4. The disinfo-crew Nancy clearly states on her website that all the information in my text (where I reference at least 50 others) is gleaned from Nancy's site! If you've read my book you would know absolutely this is a another clear lie! They want to tie me in with her as just another zetaclone with no credibilty or alternate sources for Planet X information and take me down with Nancy when they think its time to do so. This is why on the zetatalk site you'll see my name on the left front page with $$ signs next to it. They are also trying to say that I'm money motivated and don't have the publics best interests in mind. Nancy also sells a book and tapes. 5. They say I was lying when I talked to the triple doctorate in June 2002 who immediately got on the phone to me and stated 100% confirmed. He got to view Planet X with 24 other via a live Hubble link up. Nancy is saying because of her bogus PX coordinates, it was too close to the sun at that time for the Hubble to see then. Why do you thinks she attacks McCanney and I and our info as not credible? NASA has arranged (with her cooperation) to make Nancy Lieder the fall guy to get the public to turn away from all the quality Planet X good data that exists at a certain point in time when it is obvious to everyone that she is knowingly engaged in fraud and in bed with NASA! 6. Nancy is also saying that unknown people are looking for me that I owe money to and I work for The CIA. That I raised money from some unknown persons promising a safe place to live. I haven't even secured one myself at this time! Excuse me but I post my real telephone numbers on the internet and addresse. I've don't owe anyone anything and nobody is looking for me. I give live public talks (not hidden behind the internet) and have 3 coming right up. One in Huntsville Alabama the 24th of January. The next in Laughlin Nevada Feb. 2-8 and now March 9th in Colorado with SPRE. 7. The powers that be that owned Art Bell's show and now Coast to Coast have never let me back on and have never let James McCanney on the air once to discuss Planet X and yet they've had Nancy Lieder on 3 times. The CIA disinfo egroup prep2003 run by D and V has stated I've been on Arts show 3 times. Excuse me I was allowed on once January 16/17 2002. Nancy was also asked back a 4th time on the last show she did. Nancy is being set up with her complete cooperation to take the Planet X fall and turn the public away from knowledge that could save their lives. This is criminal! 8. While NASA and their cohorts prepare for Planet X's arrival they are doing the best with this elaborate scheme to defraud (of which Nancy is the center) to get others to ignore the situation! 9. It should be crystal clear to you that if Nancy Lieder had the publics interests AT HEART she would not be attacking and creating fabrications about others who are helping with the awakening. However, since that is NOT HER GOAL her modus operandi fits perfectly with someone who is working with NASA to dissuade the public from the reality of this situation. Yes, there will always be a few that hang on her every supposive zeta word. Her goal is to effect the general public away from Planet X info. A few misquided souls who can't see the writing on the wall or choose not to as to who she is or what her motivation is, will always exist. This is one email you'all should save. These people are still going to go ahead with their scheme to use their Nancy creation to ridicule PX further down the way. I'm going on record now as stating what they are up to ahead of time. Mark H
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