Nancy's "IMO" Induced Paranoia
It should be noted that in the first of Nancy's postings she attempts to make one of her annoying little star diagrams with X and O letters. Nancy has an often nonsensical reasoning in these doodles, and in the interest of saving time these doodles have not been properly formated on this page to preserve the original indentations. But, not to worry, the viewer has hardly missed anything important!
From: zetatalk (zetatalk@zetatalk.com)
Subject: Planet X: Run and HIDE! #1
Newsgroups: sci.astro, sci.astro.amateur
Date: 2002-07-14 09:07:29 PST

Open Minded, who is NOT that, runs and hides. Such is the character of
the man who asserts he will LEAD those looking for Planet X this Fall to
the truth. Is he Open Minded, or Closed Minded? Here's what he said,
AHEAD of his search last Fall, 2001:

[Open/Closed Minded wrote:]

I will continue to take my test images with my
system by pointing at the X coords when that is
feasible. Eventually, of course, I will find
something that is not on the PSS images. It will
be a comet or asteroid, not X, but when that
happens I will certainly let you know. ...

So WHATEVER he finds will NOT be X, and he followed this statement by
actions, as when on Jan 5th he founds an object NOT an existing star, he
chose to say "the star moved" rather than become Open, not Closed
Minded.

Existing Lg Star O

Existing Sm Star *

Planet X on Jan 5th X

Palomar and Jan 19th

O

* *

O

With Px ( on Jan 5th

O

* * <= Existing Star alignment

X O <= Planet X alignment

And is he willing to stand behind his words? FACE the people he has
misled by his assertion that he is OPEN, when Planet X is indeed visible
in the Fall and going into the best viewing season, December, 2002? As
soon as he is ABOUT to be discovered, hiding behind several loops all
over the nation going into the weekly Live ZetaTalk IRC Session
yesterday, he did the RUN AND HIDE! bit. Such courage! We can be sure
this is an indication of how he will behave when Planet X is found. The
amateur community led by a faceless coward! Not surprising, such is the
ilk of these people.

Session Start: Fri Jul 13 16:32:28 2002

(NancyL) I'm watching for IMO as I want to press him on WHO he is. You
know, his web site as an "About Me" page that does everything but say
WHO he is!

(NancyL) Mystery man, and last week I got his TCP/IP from this chat, and
per Obany, it cannot be traced.

(NancyL) He works very hard to hide.

(NancyL) Obviously on a NASA mission.

(NancyL) And does not want to be found when Planet X is visible and
inbound and all KNOW this. They'd want to know why he worked so very
very hard to cast doubt, while, I have no doubt, knowing BETTER.

(NancyL) Same with Tholen, and others in the know. Look them up in the
weeks and months before the shift, and ask why they cared so damn little
about you and yours.

(NancyL) Pott, you brag all the time on your skills. YOU tell me then,
who IS Open Minded?

(Pott) Unresolvable IP

(Pott) Actually it didn't resolve on IRC

(Pott) Here is his resolved address

(Pott) cpe-gan-68-101-76-90-cmcpe.ncf.coxexpress.com

(Sirgrim) Pasting people's IPs is not proving who they are.

(Sirgrim) And I'm sure open minded wouldn't want people knowing his
computer's address.

(NancyL) Pott, yes, but per Obany, this leads to NO place and NO person!

(NancyL) I tried coexpress.com

(NancyL) Whois 68.101.76.90?

(NancyL) That's a temporary address, right, for a temporary linkup?

(Scarface) Resolved 68.101.76.90 to
cpe-gan-68-101-76-90-cmcpe.ncf.coxexpress.com

(Scarface) It's behind a LAN

(NancyL) Like posting on google.com. Who knows who you are?

(NancyL) Sirgrim, IMO hides. Is there anyway to find out WHO he is?

(Wage) They pull your email address, etc, from M$

(Sirgrim) Goes from IL to NY to DC to GA to FL to NCF

(NancyL) He has this "About Me" page on his web site, dedicated to being
the spokesperson for finding PX, so he and NASA hope.

(Sirgrim) IMO is Open Minded

(NancyL) Or I should say NOT finding it, per his directions (or should I
say mis-directions).

(IMO) If any of you true believers have a scope, you should go look for
Nancy's planet.

(IMO) See http://us.geocities.com/openmindxx/OutOfSun.htm ;her position
is now viewable.

(IMO) No sign of her planet though ... it is not there.

(Sirgrim) IMO: http://wagd.com/newpxpicture.jpg my reaction to your
pictures, you see it?

(NancyL) A whole page, about being a grandpa, his hobbies, etc. NO

picture, NO name, NO city, NO state, NO occupation.

(NancyL) :-) Such COURAGE, Open Minded, from someone who wants to lead
the world into a disinformation fog!

(NancyL) And if he is so SURE PX will not appear, later, to be obvious,
then why the hiding?

(NancyL) STAND BEHIND YOUR DISINFORMATION (er, disinformation) OPEN
MINDED!

(NancyL) We should take notes, where these people live, and look them UP
later when PX looms inbound.

(NancyL) If they work for NASA, and KNOW is it coming, then HEY, lets
hold them responsible for their disinformation!

(IMO) You idiot ... the picture was to show that the coordinates were
available for scope viewing, not to look for the planet.

(NancyL) IMO!

(Cybervvizz) Karmaaaa

(NancyL) You're HERE. Now you can tell us "About" yourself, like NAME,
CITY, LOCATION, etc.

(Anonymous) What's with the counter-witch-hunt prosecuted against
dissenters?

(NancyL) We wait with bated breath!

(AGreenspan) He seems to have proved your point, N.

(NancyL) IMO, stand behind your words, COWARD!

(NancyL) Anon, what is good for the goose is good for the gander, no?

(NancyL) Oh, I forgot, Anon, you only think I should be attacked and
held responsible for misleading people.

(NancyL) Does it not cut both ways?

(NancyL) IMO left? COWARD Indeed!

(NancyL) He's afraid you'll trace him, if he sticks around.

(NancyL) Anyone catch which hole his tail went into, when he slithered
away?

(Sirgrim) I've already traced him, he seen it going through a firewall
between Florida and Georgia.

(Cybervvizz) And if he use multiple proxy?

(NancyL) He has breaks in the trail, all the way to the hole he slithers
into.

(NancyL) First you have to be able to FIND him when the heat is on.

(NancyL) Anon, I only ask for HIM what he demands of ME, and I might add
YOU demand of ME.

(SteveH) IMO also states the object from Jan 19 image pre-exists on the

NEAT images when it doesn't even show up on his Jan 5 image

(NancyL) Guy, distractions are planned NOW as IMO is trying to get you
to start to look NOW, not see it due to light pollution, then get
discouraged.
From: zetatalk (zetatalk@zetatalk.com)
Subject: Planet X: Run and HIDE! #2
Newsgroups: sci.astro, sci.astro.amateur
Date: 2002-07-14 09:08:51 PST

So who IS Open/Closed Minded, who hides behind several skips around the
nation so he cannot be discovered at his LAN, at work, and faced when
those angry at the coverup want to come looking for him?

1. We know that Richard T, who confessed here on sci.astro
to being the contact with Open/Closed Minded, has an
@bellsouth.net email addy. So, same locale.

2. We know he has access to an observatory and infrared camera.

Richard wrote:

"Nancy, due to the varied weather conditions at the
observatory site could you please provide us with
Southeast coordinates"

3. We know at least ONE name of an associate known to
actually speak to Open/Closed Minded

Richard wrote that Open Minded wrote:

"the Palomar images ... were carefully selected by one
of my mentors, Dr. George Abell, to exclude such things.
The fact that my image does not show such a transient
object ..."

4. We know that after a skip through several states to avoid
being discovered in his lair, Open/Closed Minded seems
to be located in Florida. The Cape? NASA launches?

(Sirgrim) Goes from IL to NY to DC to GA to FL
to NCF

(NancyL) IMO left? COWARD Indeed!

(NancyL) He's afraid you'll trace him, if he sticks around.

(NancyL) Anyone catch which hole his tail went into, when
he slithered away?

(Sirgrim) I've already traced him, he seen it going through
a firewall between Florida and Georgia.

5. And in case anyone is wondering just WHO Open/Closed
Minded might be, the self-appointed LEADER of amateurs
advised to look too EARLY for Planet X in the
astronomical dawn so they become discouraged and the
hooting and snickering drown out all later attempts, (buying
time for NASA, the prime coverup perpetrator), here's what
he has to say about himself!

"About Me

I am married and have several kids and even a few grandkids.
I like dogs, cats, and cars. I have studied science and
engineering and have fiddled with building things and fixing
things (both hardware and software) for a zillion years (well,
actually about 52 years but it seems like a zillion). For more
than half a zillion years I have held a responsible position at
an institute of higher learning. (I have several degrees
including one some of my associates refer to as
PostHoleDigger). I particularly enjoy digging information out
of noisy data (or showing that no information is hiding there)."

http://us.geocities.com/openmindxx/aboutme.html

Thanks for clearing that up, Open/Closed Minded! Now we know what
state/city/name to come looking for when you disappear, later this
year! In similar manner, WHAT would be said about Nancy of ZetaTalk if
all I was willing to divulge were:

About Me

I am married and have several kids and a grandchild. I like
dogs and cats and gardening. I have only a high school
degree but several members of my family have advanced
degrees. I have been passing along information from
a source NOT myself since 1995, and found it to be
unerringly accurate, including predictions on weather and
the impact on crops, quake increases, solar magnetic
alignment, and the sighting of an inbound brown dwarf.
Never mind my NAME or where I LIVE, as I want to
hide in case you come looking for me, later. BUT, you
should take the information I give you seriously, as
I fully stand behind it! TRUST me. (Just don't come
LOOKING for me).
From: zetatalk (zetatalk@zetatalk.com)
Subject: Planet X: Run and HIDE! #3
Newsgroups: sci.astro, sci.astro.amateur
Date: 2002-07-14 09:09:56 PST


Lets take a look at other ZetaTalk debunkers, as to who THEY are, and
their relative courage and willingness to stand behind their words.

David Tholen

Well known associated with Hawaii observatory and
university and NEAT program, as Hawaii is a small
island and NASA and JPL have infested the place
now for a long time. Anyone working as an
astronomer there has so many strings attached to them,
they can hardly move without getting tugged. However,
confronting David with the truth, when it becomes
obvious, will only get those confronting him Tholenized,
and thus put to sleep. Example: "Posting? What posting.
You're assuming there was a posting."

Jim Scotti

Well known and associated with the observatory in
Tucson, AZ, where the Pope is currently peeping at the
inbound Planet X which telling his flock that the last
Fatima warning was about his potential assassination,
NOT the coming earth changes. Jim will probably be
found under some of those papal robes, along with the
poor choir boys likewise abused.

Sarah Mc

Who hides, while railing at Jan for hiding. You will
probably find her, in Ireland or some such place, should
anyone WANT to, in the Confessional, having moved her
port-a-potty into one for the duration, waiting to be
Rapturized during the Armageddon. So much for logical
thinking. (Tell me you DON'T believe that, Sarah.)

Michael Cunningham

Who does ZetaTalk debunking for a living, as it seems to
be his SOLE obsession. His contributions to the coverup
are a stream of illogical insults. Anyone wanting more
of the same could look him up, but he's just say it was his
job, and have the pay stubs to prove it, sending the raging
crowd after the REAL perpetrators and thus taking himself
off to the local bar to watch the feeding frenzy, muttering
insults and obsenities into his cups.

NASA Spokespersons

It was just their job, they only announced what they had
been given, they were not privy to the full scope of
information, they have small kids, please please let GO
of me!!!

Bush Administration

You're a terrorist! BLAME BLAME, there, good thing
we changed the laws that allow us to dispense with justice
and the courts (phew) and can get rid of terrorists quickly!
After all, they don't have civil rights, they're enemies of
the state!
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