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From: Nancy Lieder (nancy@zetatalk.com)
Subject: Planet X: 3 Observatories PAST
Newsgroups: sci.astro, sci.astro.amateur

Date: 2001-11-29 04:00:40 PST

Last Spring, 3 observatories in 3 countries found Planet X at the Zeta given coordinates, all 3 reporting the same object. This is documented at the Troubled Times TEAM page at http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm

February 7, 2001: The first sighting, in France, took the observatories by surprise. The daughter of the astronomer reports that they suspected a comet or a brown dwarf on the process to become a pulsar since it emited waves. "Observatoire de Neuchâtel (celui du paternel) toute première réponses: oui,ce pourrait être une comète. Elle est sur un des bras d'Orion (?) et vont se mettre à mieux regarder pour valider ou non 'la naine brune'...car je ne sais pas si tu sais, mais ce stade est juste avant celui du pulsar et donc émet des ondes..." The astronomer did not get permission from the Neuchatal observatory to release the image he had taken.

April 1, 2001: For the second sighting, the historic 24" telescope at Lowell had been rented, so the observatory had notice. The team arrived to find the rented scope had scafolding in front of it preventing it being pointed in the direction of Orion. Tisk. But the persistent team was able to get a second 16" scope pointed in the right direction, and confirmed "I had asked the operator earlier if this scope would be able to see something as far away and faint as, say, Pluto. He said he had seen Pluto with this scope once before but it was so faint (magnitude 17) he could only see it out of the corner of his eye. So I tried focusing on the periphery of the viewable area while directing my attention to the middle. Lo and behold, there appeared a faint blip not too far off center. ... I had the operator center the telescope on the faint object so that we could get the oordinates more precisely and then I checked a third time to make sure we were talking about the same thing. We were; the elusive blip was centered now."

April 8, 2001: During the third sighting, in Vancouver by Steve Havas who posts here on sci.astro on this subject, there was ALSO scafolding moved so as to discourage the scope from pointing toward Orion, but in spite of this, the team succeeded and reported "Near the center I see nothing that I think looks like [Planet X] (just a couple stars) but at the very top right corner if I moved my head I could see what appeared to be a darkish, diffuse, round spot, fairly large". The astronomers in charge of the observatory made all manner of attempts to prevent this viewing, including pointing the scope in the wrong direction and refusing to help in the endeavor. Shortly thereafter, the observatory was unexpectedly closed for a month of repairs. That was, per Steve, over 6 months ago, and per Steve's recent postings, the observatory appears to be closed down for the duration.


		Planet X: 3 Observatories PAST
	From: Nancy Lieder (nancy@zetatalk.com) Subject: Planet X: 3 Observatories PAST Newsgroups: sci.astro, sci.astro.amateur Date: 2001-11-29 04:00:40 PST Last Spring, 3 observatories in 3 countries found Planet X at the Zeta given coordinates, all 3 reporting the same object. This is documented at the Troubled Times TEAM page at http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm February 7, 2001: The first sighting, in France, took the observatories by surprise. The daughter of the astronomer reports that they suspected a comet or a brown dwarf on the process to become a pulsar since it emited waves. "Observatoire de Neuchâtel (celui du paternel) toute première réponses: oui,ce pourrait être une comète. Elle est sur un des bras d'Orion (?) et vont se mettre à mieux regarder pour valider ou non 'la naine brune'...car je ne sais pas si tu sais, mais ce stade est juste avant celui du pulsar et donc émet des ondes..." The astronomer did not get permission from the Neuchatal observatory to release the image he had taken. April 1, 2001: For the second sighting, the historic 24" telescope at Lowell had been rented, so the observatory had notice. The team arrived to find the rented scope had scafolding in front of it preventing it being pointed in the direction of Orion. Tisk. But the persistent team was able to get a second 16" scope pointed in the right direction, and confirmed "I had asked the operator earlier if this scope would be able to see something as far away and faint as, say, Pluto. He said he had seen Pluto with this scope once before but it was so faint (magnitude 17) he could only see it out of the corner of his eye. So I tried focusing on the periphery of the viewable area while directing my attention to the middle. Lo and behold, there appeared a faint blip not too far off center. ... I had the operator center the telescope on the faint object so that we could get the oordinates more precisely and then I checked a third time to make sure we were talking about the same thing. We were; the elusive blip was centered now." April 8, 2001: During the third sighting, in Vancouver by Steve Havas who posts here on sci.astro on this subject, there was ALSO scafolding moved so as to discourage the scope from pointing toward Orion, but in spite of this, the team succeeded and reported "Near the center I see nothing that I think looks like [Planet X] (just a couple stars) but at the very top right corner if I moved my head I could see what appeared to be a darkish, diffuse, round spot, fairly large". The astronomers in charge of the observatory made all manner of attempts to prevent this viewing, including pointing the scope in the wrong direction and refusing to help in the endeavor. Shortly thereafter, the observatory was unexpectedly closed for a month of repairs. That was, per Steve, over 6 months ago, and per Steve's recent postings, the observatory appears to be closed down for the duration.

From: Sarah Mc (sarahmac@hotpop.com) Subject: Re: Planet X: 3 Observatories PAST Newsgroups: sci.astro, sci.astro.amateur Date: 2001-11-29 10:57:49 PST Nancy Lieder <nancy@zetatalk.com> wrote in message news:<3C06243D.745D012D@zetatalk.com>... > Last Spring, 3 observatories in 3 countries found Planet X at the Zeta > given coordinates, all 3 reporting the same object. This is documented > at the Troubled Times TEAM page at > <http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm> > <BS snipped> Hearsay is not "documented observations". If I said I saw it, you'd post that as a documented sighting on your website as well, even though I was lying through my teeth.

From: Sarah Mc (sarahmac@hotpop.com) Subject: Re: Planet X: 3 Observatories PAST Newsgroups: sci.astro Date: 2001-12-13 13:17:25 PST Nancy Lieder <zetatalk@zetatalk.com> wrote in message > Please note the word INCREASE in my posting. A CHANGE in brightness at > the present time would require computer analysis of consecutive images, > per the Zetas. And on April 21st, 2001 in the sci.astro newsgroup, the Cult Leader wrote: "The naked eye [i.e. not a computer] will begin to register increased brightness approximately 1 year 7 months before the cataclysms, or late in the year 2001. ZetaTalk" Then on November 21st, 2001 in the same newsgroup, she wrote: "BRIGHTNESS The [computer assisted] eye will begin to register increased brightness approximately 1 year 7 months before the cataclysms, or late in the year 2001. ZetaTalk in Comet Visible" These are direct quotes from her newsgroup postings. Note that the "Zetatalk" below the message means that the "Zetas" spoke those words to her. SO, either the Zetas are lying to the cult leader, or the cult leader is lying to her followers. We all know she's lying to US here on sci.astro. Who changed the original message? The Zeta's? The cult leader? Next thing you know, that "2001" in the message will be "2002". Yep, the Zeta's are ALWAYS right. Of course they are, they have the added advantage of being able to rewrite history - to a point - seems they don't have control over UseNet archives yet. It's just a shame that her flock doesn't see the revisions either. But then again, they're blind to all of that, as most cult followers are - they don't want to see it. Well the Zeta's weren't right on April 21st, 2001, in fact they lied through their teeth and had to rewrite the message so that they could be "right again". By the way, the cult leader's followers are now discussing the "lift" on her yahoo group. That's where the cult followers get implants, then transported to a safe place by the Zeta's during the coming "pole shift" and then get bred with the aliens to form a new race of beings to inhabit the post pole shift planet. The cult leader doesn't talk much about this on sci.astro. Just like Scientologists don't tell new members the whole story about scientology and aliens and Xenu. Heaven's Gate? Who was the cult follower that asked what we fear from the cult leader? We fear for YOUR life.

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