Planet X: 100% SURE?

From: Nancy Lieder (zetatalk@zetatalk.com)
Subject: Planet X: 100% SURE?
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Date: 2002-04-06 10:02:34 PST

To those who would say that I?m not 100% SURE, re the Planet X message,
as how can I be when the Zeta explanations often fall contrary to
current human scientific explanations, I would say that ZetaTalk
Accuracy tells me that I AM SURE. Lets look at some human failures over
only the past couple years:

Sun?s Magnetic orientation remains the same in
August 2001 as in 1994, contrary to current human
thinking that solar reversals happen every 11 years
but in ACCORDANCE with ZetaTalk statements
from 1995.

http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use90314.htm
http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use90315.htm

NASA Probes mysteriously behave contrary to
mankind?s current thinking on gravity, but in
ACCORDANCE with the ZetaTalk explanation of
the washback toward the Sun that the ecliptic
represents.

http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s108.htm
http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s64.htm

Tunguska not being caused by a meteor, the
favorite explanation of mankind, but in
ACCORDANCE with the ZetaTalk explanation
stated at the outset during the 1997 debates.

http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s57.htm

From: tholen@AntiSpam.ham (tholen@AntiSpam.ham)
Subject: Re: Planet X: 100% SURE?
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Date: 2002-04-06 10:49:16 PST

Nancy Lieder writes:

> To those who would say that I?m not 100% SURE, re the Planet X message,
> as how can I be when the Zeta explanations often fall contrary to
> current human scientific explanations, I would say that ZetaTalk
> Accuracy tells me that I AM SURE.

What alleged "Accuracy"? You were saying that your planet is magnitude
11, Nancy, but none of the objects you've pointed to recently is anywhere
close to magnitude 11.

> Lets look at some human failures over
> only the past couple years:
>
> Sun?s Magnetic orientation remains the same in
> August 2001 as in 1994, contrary to current human
> thinking that solar reversals happen every 11 years
> but in ACCORDANCE with ZetaTalk statements
> from 1995.

No failure there, Nancy. 2001 is only 7 years after 1994, which is
less than 11.

> NASA Probes mysteriously behave contrary to
> mankind?s current thinking on gravity, but in
> ACCORDANCE with the ZetaTalk explanation of
> the washback toward the Sun that the ecliptic
> represents.

No failure there, Nancy. They're looking at discrepancies so tiny
that explanations could involve things like the Yarkovsky effect,
which doesn't require any change in current thinking on gravity.
Meanwhile, your own ephemeris for your imaginary planet doesn't
even come close to behaving gravitationally. In other words,
you're trying to claim that mankind is wrong about gravity because
of some effect in the eighth decimal place, and that you are right
about gravity, despite failures in the first decimal place. You've
got several orders of magnitude to go to do better than mankind,
Nancy.

> Tunguska not being caused by a meteor, the
> favorite explanation of mankind, but in
> ACCORDANCE with the ZetaTalk explanation
> stated at the outset during the 1997 debates.

No failure there, Nancy. Where's your evidence that Tunguska was
not causd by a "meteor"?

> And some key ZetaTalk successes,

What alleged successes, Nancy?

> among the dozens that could be pointed to:

Feel free to list those dozens, if you think you can, Nancy.

> Weather changes and their effect on crop shortages,
> predicted in 1995 in great detail, occuring just as
> described and predicted by NO other source.

What alleged weather changes, Nancy?

> Dominoe quakes, where tightly locked plates push
> one another in a predictable manner, setting in at the
> time of the 7.4 Turkey quake in 1999 and perdicted
> repeatedly the year before by ZetaTalk.

What alleged "domineo quakes", Nancy?

> An inbound brown dwarf becoming visible,
> particularly in infrared, at a path and coordinates
> described in 1995, FOUND and IMAGED at this
> path and coordinates.

That's hardly a "success", Nancy. You predicted a magnitude 11 object,
yet there is no magnitude 11 object in those images, nor has its path
been followed. If you have a series of astrometric measures, then
submit them for publication in the Minor Planet Circulars. Of course,
it's a serious problem for you that an orbit can't be fitted to your
ephemeris.

http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword23j.htm

From: Sarah Mc (sarahmac@hotpop.com)
Subject: Re: Planet X: 100% SURE?
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Date: 2002-04-06 17:52:35 PST

Nancy Lieder (ZetaCult High Priestess) <zetatalk@zetatalk.com> wrote in message news:<3CAF39B6.CF945C14@zetatalk.com>...

> To those who would say that I'm not 100% SURE, re the Planet X message,
> as how can I be when the Zeta explanations often fall contrary to
> current human scientific explanations, I would say that ZetaTalk
> Accuracy tells me that I AM SURE. Lets look at some human failures over
> only the past couple years:

No one said you were 100% sure. I said, you know 100% for certain that
it (Planet X) doesn't exist at all. You know you're a charlatan and a
con artist. No one needs to prove that to you.


>
> Sun's Magnetic orientation remains the same in
> August 2001 as in 1994, contrary to current human
> thinking that solar reversals happen every 11 years
> but in ACCORDANCE with ZetaTalk statements
> from 1995.

> http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use90314.htm
> http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use90315.htm


ZetaCult failure #1, Relying on old, subjective information is your
major downfall. You'd best start improving your research abilities,
because the time for you to put up or shut up has arrived. Stop
relying on old Ulysses press reports that make no such claim. This
solar maximum was a double max, not unheard of before and apparently
quite common. Unknown to you, the solar max was still yet to start to
wind down when you made that stupid, idiotic statement. Instead of
researching it, you just opened your big mouth and made yourself out
to be a fool. And continue to do so.

http://www.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~forsyth/reversal/

Next time you read a press release, try reading the WHOLE article and
not just what you want to see. Same goes for your web pages, provide
the whole article and not just an excerpt that might make you look
correct.



>
> NASA Probes mysteriously behave contrary to
> mankind's current thinking on gravity, but in
> ACCORDANCE with the ZetaTalk explanation of
> the washback toward the Sun that the ecliptic
> represents.

> http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s108.htm
> http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s64.htm

ZetaCult Failure #2 - Incorrect, not "contray to mankind's thinking on
gravity". Your Zetas have not provided a mathematical formula or any
proven theory to explain the observed, but unaccounted for as yet
effect. I could say that little green mice were living on board the
probes, causing the effect. Does that make it correct? You have
provided nothing here but bad science.

You're a con artist, attempting to pull the wool over people eyes by
saying there is proof, but not showing it.



> Tunguska not being caused by a meteor, the
> favorite explanation of mankind, but in
> ACCORDANCE with the ZetaTalk explanation
> stated at the outset during the 1997 debates.

> http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s57.htm
> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword23j.htm

Your own web pages are not proof of you being correct. There is plenty
of information to the contrary, and more widely accepted than the
theories you feel are correct. (which have been around far longer than
your "predictions") Hardly a prediction or proof of being "correct".

You're a disinformation specialist, ignoring and suppressing the
contrary data to your opinion.

>
> And some key ZetaTalk successes, among the dozens that could be pointed
> to:

>
> Weather changes and their effect on crop shortages,
> predicted in 1995 in great detail, occuring just as
> described and predicted by NO other source.

> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx091.htm
> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx125.htm
> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword23a.htm

There have been no world wide crop shortages, nor has there been any
problems in stocking supermarkets or grocery stores, anywhere. Your
information and predictions are FALSE. Typical shortages and failures
happen as they do every year,and have happened every year since
recorded history began. You rely on "conspiracies to hide the truth"
and "media control" as proof of your assertions. Not proof, Cult
Leader. That's supposition without proof.

I could say the moon is made of green cheese too, and there's a
conspiracy to hide the fact that it is. Prove me wrong, Cult Leader.

You're a Charlatan, a false prophet, a scam artist.


> Dominoe quakes, where tightly locked plates push
> one another in a predictable manner, setting in at the
> time of the 7.4 Turkey quake in 1999 and perdicted
> repeatedly the year before by ZetaTalk.

> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx210.htm
> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx066.htm
> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx106.htm
> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx067.htm

And have been happening for the last 500 million+ years. How ironic
that you consider that a "prediction". I predict right now, that there
will be world-wide amounts of oxygen and nitrogen in the atmosphere of
Earth starting immediately.

SarahTalk, 100% RIGHT again!!

>
> An inbound brown dwarf becoming visible,
> particularly in infrared, at a path and coordinates
> described in 1995, FOUND and IMAGED at this
> path and coordinates.

> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm

ZetaCult Failure #3. No "brown dwarf" has been sighted, imaged or
detected by any telecope, optical or otherwise. That's an outright
out LIE made by the Cult Leader, High Priestess of the ZetaCult and
self proclaimed emmisary of the Zeta alien race, to create fear and
panic in the hopes of obtaining new Cult inductees.

Once again, Nancy makes herself out to be a fool and a liar. Usenet's
#1 Doomsday Cult Leader continues to loose her sanity and cult members
by posting on Usenet.

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