From: Sarah Mc (sarahmac@hotpop.com)
Subject: Re: Planet X cults
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Date: 2002-04-03 22:19:09 PST
Wendy@wendyjensen.com (Wendy Jensen)
(The latest in a long list of Planet X Cult members)
wrote in message news:<d5261246.0204031142.4a82f532@posting.google.com>...
<snip)
> I've been asked if I'm just playing at being a scientist. I'm tempted
> to ask the scientists if they are just playing at having common sense.
> Some of the statements about Planet X cults in general and me in
> particular are totally ridiculous.
Tsk tsk. Bad form, Wendy. What makes you "assume" we're all
"scientists"? Secondly, if you don't like the heat in the kitchen, get
the hell out. Usenet isn't governed by Martha Stewart's book of
etiquette.
You're a writer. You have a dictionary. Look up "cult". When you're
done, read some history on doomsday cults and see if you can find any
parallels. When you start defending yourself, as above, it gets pretty
obvious that something hit home with the word "cult".
>
> I've been a member of Troubled Times for two years now, and I've never
> given Nancy Lieder any money, nor has she asked me for any. Troubled
> Times disseminates information on how to survive cataclysmic events,
> grows seeds and gives them away, that sort of thing.
What cataclysmic events has TT ever been involved in?
Yep, and they spend tens of thousands of dollars on worms,
hydroponics, shortwave radios, web servers and structural engineering
thats already been done before. Wasn't it you that stated the "doomed
to repeat history" quote? I guess you never saw all the "donations"
from people that added up to around $50,000 in one year, not counting
the cash that "gets lost". After all, their "internal auditor" has no
last name.
You know as well as I do, that if Nancy was serious, all that money
would have gone into true research, such as renting time at an
"observatory grade" telescope. Instead, she breeds worms (as if they
didn't know how to do it themselves) and starts a hydroponic garden,
buys shortwave radios and antennas for one of her board members, and
buys web servers and broadband connections for her web site. Gee,
doesn't the Red Cross and FEMA already have that covered? Ever heard
of Civil Defense? Don't HAM radio operators already assist with
natural disasters? The money that TT took in from Cult Members could
have been used to verify the claims, and in turn warn the populace
that this "catastrophe" was coming. Instead, it was spent on foolish
"research" that had already been done before, and was available in any
library.
The reason the money wasn't spent to verify the upcoming catastrophe,
is because Nancy knows there's no such catastrophe coming.
>
> You people assume that if I write a novel about cataclysms in 2003 I
> must be one of Nancy Lieder's brainwashed followers. By that illogic,
> since I write about a psychic and vampires I must also be a psychic
> and a vampire. Hey, maybe I'm actually a psychic brainwashed Nancy
> Lieder following vampire! Not to mention an ignorant troll.
Actually, you're "assuming" that we take that stance. You're making
your own bed, be prepared to sleep in it. If you post here like one of
the ZetaCult, you'll be "assumed" to be one of them. You're just a new
boy crying "wolf" here, many have taken your path before. Most of them
are long gone now, as will most of Nancy's followers in the coming
months. The time for Nancy to put up or shut up has arrived.
>
> Do I definitely believe Planet X will appear in 2003? No. Do I believe
> it is POSSIBLE Planet X (or some other disruptive astronomical object)
> will appear in 2003? Yes.
<big huge snip of self-righteous, fear mongering, worthless drivel)
What you wrote above says it all, just what we expected when you
started trolling this newsgroup. I guess you really take offense to
hearing the truth about ZetaTalk, huh? Really got your feathers
frazzeled when the word "cult" came up. Well hey, the truth hurts. The
first step in getting out is to admit that you're in one Wendy. Take
those rampant fears of yours and put them to use, rather than dwelling
on them and making preparations for the "worst".
What did I spend on Y2K? Not a damn thing, except a bottle of
Champagne that I buy every "new" year.
So now, you're a self admitted usenet troll and an admitted ZetaCult
member trying to get your STO status by sniffing up Nancy's butt.
Excellent. You, like Nancy, would be well served to learn how to keep
your mouth shut. You're your own worst enemy - just like Nancy. STO
isn't STO, it's STN - Service to Nancy.
So now we can laugh at you too. Just don't drink the koolaid when
Nancy tells you it's needed for being "lifted by the Zetas prior to
the poleshift".
After all, we'll need a few kooks around here to keep us in giggles
after May 15th, 2003. Who knows how many the Cult Leader will take
with her during the "lift"? Don't forget that the Zetas said to
"emulate Nancy" if you want to be a part of the STO "lift".