Planet X- Right To KNOW
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 12:07:50 -0600
From: Nancy Lieder <zetatalk@zetatalk.com>
Subject: Planet X: Right to KNOW

I don’t intent to step into the bog of snickering and jokes and insults
and cult calling, except to point out a simple and singularly important
issue that seems to be, perhaps deliberately, missed by the screeching
and snickering crowd. To FAIL to issue a warning, which you KNOW is a
valid warning, is unconscionable. Thus, NASA et al, knowing that they
confirmed a brown dwarf in 1983, and monitoring it every since, and
watching its approach, and seeing the correlation with current earth
changes since 1995, and withholding the Hubble and other images, are
dooming at least hundreds of millions to a horrific death which they
could PREVENT, and are certainly preventing billions from making choices
for themselves, something everyone has a right to, if they simply shared
the information. Why do they NOT share? The flip answer is that they
wish to prevent panic, but talk of near earth asteroids goes out in the
news, so this negates that argument. The real answer is that NASA and
the power and wealth elite want the public to remain ignorant so that:

1. the Stock Market can remain high, as this keeps the
wealthy on top as long as possible
2. There is less competition for the goods while the wealthy
stock up, and the price is kept down
3. The elite won’t get accosted on their way TO their
hideaways, travel when the time comes being easier
4. The taxpayers will toss their money at a government that
has no intention of helping THEM when the time comes,
though they’re preparing to save THEMSELVES in
carry-on government bunkers, well stocked I might add

And I could go on, but the point it, WITHHOLDING this information has no
generous or helping-mankind reason, only self-serving and power hungry
and unconscionably inhumane reasons. So the astronomers on this Usenet
who know, and say nothing, or worse yet argue AGAINST what they know to
be true, are not doing humanity a service, they’re taking pay and being
paid well in some manner for what they do, or playing a Good ‘Ol Boy
game for return favors or a sense of security or whatever, or allowing
themselves to be dictated to like mindless robots or children slavishly
obedient to a parent.


From: tholen@AntiSpam.ham
Subject: Re: Planet X: Right to KNOW
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 18:58:21 GMT
Xref: sn-us sci.astro:368174

Nancy Lieder writes:

> I don’t intent to step into the bog of snickering and jokes and insults
> and cult calling, except to point out a simple and singularly important
> issue that seems to be, perhaps deliberately, missed by the screeching
> and snickering crowd.

You also apparently don't intent [sic] to explain why your magnitude 2
object, when infrared is taken into account, and magnitude 11 object
otherwise, doesn't appear that bright in the recent images.

> To FAIL to issue a warning, which you KNOW is a
> valid warning, is unconscionable.

Irrelevant, given that you haven't issued a valid warning, Nancy.

> Thus, NASA et al, knowing that they
> confirmed a brown dwarf in 1983,

Incorrect, Nancy. See

http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/tchester/iras/no_tenth_planet_yet.html

> and monitoring it every since,

It's impossible to monitor that which does not exist, Nancy.

> and watching its approach,

It's impossible to watch the approach of that which does not exist, Nancy.

> and seeing the correlation with current earth changes since 1995,

Illogical, Nancy; a planet at the distance your imaginary object currently
is can't possibly have the effects on the Earth that you're claiming.


From: sarahmac@hotpop.com (Sarah Mc)
Subject: Re: Planet X: Right to KNOW
Date: 6 Apr 2002 16:55:51 -0800
Xref: sn-us sci.astro:368234

Nancy Lieder <zetatalk@zetatalk.com> wrote in message news:<3CAF3976.5B7F1D2E@zetatalk.com>...

> I don't intent to step into the bog of snickering and jokes and insults
> and cult calling, except to point out a simple and singularly important
> issue that seems to be, perhaps deliberately, missed by the screeching
> and snickering crowd.

In other words, you won't answer the questions posed to you by anyone
not already in your cult. You won't address the inconsistencies, the
lies, the deliberate information manipulation, the censoring of ideas
and opinions, or anything else that you're guilty of, including being
a Cult Leader..



>To FAIL to issue a warning, which you KNOW is a
> valid warning, is unconscionable.

Issuing a warning of a non-event is as "unconsionable" as yelling fire
in a theatre, when there's no fire at all. You can yell all you want
when you ahve validated proof that your planet exists. Until that
time, you're a Cult Leader and a liar.

(Cult Propanganda and fear tactics snipped)

From: "Michael L. Cunningham" <bogeystar@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Planet X: Right to KNOW
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 07:15:03 GMT
Xref: sn-us sci.astro:368266

Nancy Lieder wrote:

> I don't intent to step into the bog of snickering and jokes and insults
> and cult calling, except to point out a simple and singularly important
> issue that seems to be, perhaps deliberately, missed by the screeching
> and snickering crowd...


So crowed the Cult Lieder (pun intended).


> And I could go on, but the point it, WITHHOLDING this information has no
> generous or helping-mankind reason, only self-serving and power hungry
> and unconscionably inhumane reasons. So the astronomers on this Usenet
> who know, and say nothing, or worse yet argue AGAINST what they know to
> be true, are not doing humanity a service...


Again crows the Cult Lieder who has NEVER looked thru a telescope nor
does she ever intend to do so!

What magnitude is your planet at today Cult Lieder? 2nd? 11th? 21st?



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From: jrlatala@shell.golden.net
Subject: Re: Planet X: Right to KNOW
Date: 7 Apr 2002 03:15:13 -0400
Xref: sn-us sci.astro:368267

In article <3CAF3976.5B7F1D2E@zetatalk.com>,
Nancy Lieder <zetatalk@zetatalk.com> wrote:
>I don’t intent to step into the bog of snickering and jokes and insults
>and cult calling, except to point out a simple and singularly important
>issue that seems to be, perhaps deliberately, missed by the screeching
>and snickering crowd. To FAIL to issue a warning, which you KNOW is a
>valid warning, is unconscionable.

And lying to get peoples money is okay? You have a really warped sense of
what's right and wrong. Please hurry up and drink the Koolaid.

--
john R. Latala
jrlatala@golden.net