Planet X- The UNCERTAINTIES
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 12:09:57 -0600
From: Nancy Lieder <zetatalk@zetatalk.com>
Subject: Planet X: The UNCERTAINTIES
Xref: sn-us sci.astro:368168

About Planet X? Lets take the uncertainties about anything. Do your
politicians working for you or are they taking lobby money and doing you
wrong? Is your spouse faithful or does all that time visiting a friend
in another town have a double meaning? Is your bank solid or will
Argentina be followed by more of the same? Is the Stock Market just
waiting to make you rich or does Enron represent deep rot not yet fully
exposed? Is your food safe or is mad cow disease or e-coli about to
strike?

Any of these issues is MORE likely to put you at risk than the warnings
about a pending pole shift. ZetaTalk asks you to think for yourself and
NOTICE some 7 weeks before the pole shift date that a red object is in
the sky, at the location they defined since 1995. ZetaTalk is telling
you what a stopped rotation, some 6 weeks after this object is apparent
to anyone from their backyard, means a pole shift is EMINENT. ZetaTalk
relays, endlessly and repeatedly, that there are simple steps a family
can take to be above the tidal waves and minimize quake damage, such as
being 100 miles away from a coastline and 200 feet above sea level and
out of buildings but laying low in a trench. No money required. No
risk. Just be aware, here’s the info, you decide for yourself, you’re
empowered with the information your government and NASA are withholding
from you. And what do the uncertainties mentioned above mean for the
average person?

Do your politicians working for you or are they taking lobby money and
doing you wrong? OOPS, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, and
the taxpayer gets shafted and that seems to be uniformly the case, FOR
SURE.

Is your spouse faithful or does all that time visiting a friend in
another town have a double meaning? OOPS, divorce papers, sucker, and
you can only see the kids on Saturday, and pay through the nose please
as I had time to set this all up so I win and you lose but you’re
getting shafted and that’s probably FOR SURE.

Is your bank solid or will Argentina be followed by more of the same?
OOPS, the bankers and their friends squirreled away their shares and
left the shreds for the you, fool, the little guy, who has no recourse,
and that’s FOR SURE

Is the Stock Market just waiting to make you rich or does Enron
represent deep rot not yet fully exposed? OOPS, accounting
irregularities galore and all that stock value you thought you had is
vaporized overnight, and nothing you can do about it, that’s FOR SURE.

Is your food safe or is mad cow disease or e-coli about to strike? OOPS,
so sorry your kidneys are gone and your brain is dissolving, but we want
you to keep the mega-agriculture business highly profitable, and care
more about them than you, and that’s FOR SURE.

From: tholen@AntiSpam.ham

Subject: Re: Planet X: The UNCERTAINTIES

Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 19:01:30 GMT

Nancy Lieder writes:

> About Planet X? Lets take the uncertainties about anything.

Such as the magnitudes, Nancy. A signal to noise ratio of 1 translates
into a magnitude error of about one magnitude. Yet you're off by over
9 magnitudes. Obviously that's not due to any uncertainty. It's a
flat-out failure.


From: sarahmac@hotpop.com (Sarah Mc)
Subject: Re: Planet X: The UNCERTAINTIES
Date: 6 Apr 2002 16:50:27 -0800
Xref: sn-us sci.astro:368233

Nancy Lieder <zetatalk@zetatalk.com> wrote in message news:<3CAF39F5.99B7072D@zetatalk.com>...
> About Planet X? Lets take the uncertainties about anything. Do your
> politicians working for you or are they taking lobby money and doing you
> wrong? Is your spouse faithful or does all that time visiting a friend
> in another town have a double meaning? Is your bank solid or will
> Argentina be followed by more of the same? Is the Stock Market just
> waiting to make you rich or does Enron represent deep rot not yet fully
> exposed? Is your food safe or is mad cow disease or e-coli about to
> strike?

What the hell does this have to do with your lieing about Planet X?

>
> Any of these issues is MORE likely to put you at risk than the warnings
> about a pending pole shift.

In other words, you're trying to hide away from any lawsuits that may
be headed your way.


> ZetaTalk asks you to think for yourself and
> NOTICE some 7 weeks before the pole shift date that a red object is in
> the sky, at the location they defined since 1995.

Interesting that just two years ago it was supposed to an "unassisted
eye" object by the fall of last year. Then last Feb it became
"telescope assisted" then in November when it still wasn't visible, it
became "computer assisted", and even now, a digital image taken by
computer, filtered in infrared STILL can;t see a mag 11 obect, or even
a mag 20 object.


> ZetaTalk is telling
> you what a stopped rotation, some 6 weeks after this object is apparent
> to anyone from their backyard, means a pole shift is EMINENT. ZetaTalk
> relays, endlessly and repeatedly, that there are simple steps a family
> can take to be above the tidal waves and minimize quake damage, such as
> being 100 miles away from a coastline and 200 feet above sea level and
> out of buildings but laying low in a trench. No money required. No
> risk. Just be aware, here's the info, you decide for yourself, you're
> empowered with the information your government and NASA are withholding
> from you. And what do the uncertainties mentioned above mean for the
> average person?

Typical ZetaCult fear tactics and conspiracy theories. SOS

>
> Do your politicians working for you or are they taking lobby money and
> doing you wrong? OOPS, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, and
> the taxpayer gets shafted and that seems to be uniformly the case, FOR
> SURE.

Typical ZetaCult political instigation and supposition.

>
> Is your spouse faithful or does all that time visiting a friend in
> another town have a double meaning? OOPS, divorce papers, sucker, and
> you can only see the kids on Saturday, and pay through the nose please
> as I had time to set this all up so I win and you lose but you're
> getting shafted and that's probably FOR SURE.

Typical ZetaCult nonsense unrelated to the matter at hand.

>
> Is your bank solid or will Argentina be followed by more of the same?
> OOPS, the bankers and their friends squirreled away their shares and
> left the shreds for the you, fool, the little guy, who has no recourse,
> and that's FOR SURE


More nonsense.


>
> Is the Stock Market just waiting to make you rich or does Enron
> represent deep rot not yet fully exposed? OOPS, accounting
> irregularities galore and all that stock value you thought you had is
> vaporized overnight, and nothing you can do about it, that's FOR SURE.


The shit is getting deeper.

>
> Is your food safe or is mad cow disease or e-coli about to strike? OOPS,
> so sorry your kidneys are gone and your brain is dissolving, but we want
> you to keep the mega-agriculture business highly profitable, and care
> more about them than you, and that's FOR SURE.


More Cult fear tactics.

From: pfunk@funkenstein.foo
Subject: Re: Planet X: The UNCERTAINTIES
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 01:14:56 GMT
Xref: sn-us sci.astro:368237

On 6 Apr 2002 16:50:27 -0800, sarahmac@hotpop.com (Sarah Mc) wrote:

<snip>
>
>In other words, you're trying to hide away from any lawsuits that may
>be headed your way.
>
<snip>

I'd be curious to read what an attorney has to say about this. If
there are any litigators reading this thread, please weigh in.

From: Bill Nelson <billn@spock.peak.org>
Subject: Re: Planet X: The UNCERTAINTIES
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 09:06:08 +0000 (UTC)
Xref: sn-us sci.astro:368285

pfunk@funkenstein.foo wrote:
>>
>>In other words, you're trying to hide away from any lawsuits that may
>>be headed your way.

> I'd be curious to read what an attorney has to say about this. If
> there are any litigators reading this thread, please weigh in.

No need for a lawyer. When this "planet" does not show up next year,
a number of very unhappy people (those who followed Leider's advice
and sold out and moved etc) are going to be looking for her and her
associates (that includes Jan and a few others). Some will be hiring
lawyers to recover what they can - others may have more sinister aims.

--
Bill Nelson (billn@peak.org)

From: jrlatala@shell.golden.net
Subject: Re: Planet X: The UNCERTAINTIES
Date: 8 Apr 2002 01:45:17 -0400
Xref: sn-us sci.astro:368428

In article <a8p25v$886$5@quark.scn.rain.com>,
Bill Nelson <billn@spock.peak.org> wrote:
>pfunk@funkenstein.foo wrote:
>>>
>>>In other words, you're trying to hide away from any lawsuits that may
>>>be headed your way.
>
>> I'd be curious to read what an attorney has to say about this. If
>> there are any litigators reading this thread, please weigh in.
>
>No need for a lawyer. When this "planet" does not show up next year,
>a number of very unhappy people (those who followed Leider's advice
>and sold out and moved etc) are going to be looking for her and her
>associates (that includes Jan and a few others). Some will be hiring
>lawyers to recover what they can - others may have more sinister aims.

Actually I don't think you'll have to wait until next year because the
planet, if it exists, should be visible in telescopes long before that.

Nancy, when will Planet-X be visible in telescopes? Binoculars? Naked eye?

--
john R. Latala
jrlatala@golden.net

From: Bob Officer <bobofficers@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Planet X: The UNCERTAINTIES
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 01:20:09 -0700

On 8 Apr 2002 01:45:17 -0400, jrlatala@shell.golden.net in sci.astro
wrote:

>In article <a8p25v$886$5@quark.scn.rain.com>,
>Bill Nelson <billn@spock.peak.org> wrote:
>>pfunk@funkenstein.foo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>In other words, you're trying to hide away from any lawsuits that may
>>>>be headed your way.
>>
>>> I'd be curious to read what an attorney has to say about this. If
>>> there are any litigators reading this thread, please weigh in.
>>
>>No need for a lawyer. When this "planet" does not show up next year,
>>a number of very unhappy people (those who followed Leider's advice
>>and sold out and moved etc) are going to be looking for her and her
>>associates (that includes Jan and a few others). Some will be hiring
>>lawyers to recover what they can - others may have more sinister aims.
>
>Actually I don't think you'll have to wait until next year because the
>planet, if it exists, should be visible in telescopes long before that.
>
>Nancy, when will Planet-X be visible in telescopes? Binoculars? Naked eye?

A f4.5 13 inch scope will see to mag 16...


--
Nokwsi