Log
Board
Meeting
August 20, 2000
(Nancy) As we have a quorum, I'll call the meeting to order.
(Shaul) Brent
and Ron were here already, they'll probably be back in a minute or
so
(Gerard) brent will show up... i am sure about that he said it
before
(Shaul) aha
(Nancy) We have currently attending Nancy, Ron,
Shirley, Roger, Gerard, Jurian, and new Board Member Shaul.
(Shaul) and
Brent
(Brent) good morning
(Nancy) A new practice we should start is
confirming that the Minutes of the last meeting are correct.
(Gerard)
ok
(Shaul) how is that done?
(Nancy) Since we post this on the tt-inc
mailing list and it can be reviewed by the Board Members, as well as the entire
transcript of the log, there is plenty of opportunity for the Board Members to
review this.
(Shaul) ah, ok. the log of the last meeting,
basically.
(Nancy) Ron has suggested, and I think a good idea, to simply make
the statement at the start of every meeting, as follows: If there is no
objection to the Minutes to be stated, it will be considered ratified as
correct."
(Shaul) I agree. saves lots of time.
(Nancy) The 1st item on the
Agenda is project changes.
(Nancy) As outlined on the agenda, we would like
to add a Community Garden project (Barry Setser as documenter), a Brochure
project (Shirley and Michel and I are working on this).
(Nancy) Since no
projects are listed on the web unless the Board approves, we need your approval
for these.
(Shaul) do we need a motion and a second?
(Nancy) Also, Ron
wants to change his Backpack Survival to On Foot, and we also have a volunteer
on Fermentation project (John Dixon researchers)
(Shaul) hi, Aron
(Aron)
hello
(Aron) Im on time for once :-)
(Shaul) (almost)
(Nancy) John
Dixon has offered to do a Composting project, one we had on our list as Mike
Lobdell recommended it, but Ron questions whether this is pertinent.
(Nancy)
Basically, Ron feels that "composting is well documented in hundreds of books,
and there is nothing to learn in an experiment."
(Brent) I would agree with
Ron on this point
(Nancy) Hi, Aron, you didn't miss anything.
(Roger) I
agree with Ron on the composting stuff.
(Shaul) what about the recently
suggested Methane Gas things?
(Roger) It is well known.
(Shaul) it's true,
it is well documented.
(Aron) compost is compost
(Nancy) Shaul, Ron says
"We can add a methane gas project, but we have to find a principal, and what
would be new is how to do it in a pole shift environment, what materials,
etc."
(Shaul) is that what John is proposing to do?
(Nancy) Ron says "the
project is on food preservation, and includes building food dryers and is
basically a documentation project with very little actual
experimentation."
(Shaul) sorry if i'm being obtuse, but I'm talking about
methane engines, not food preservation.
(Nancy) Ron says "like building a
dryer from materials available, how to provide the warm air without electricity,
and fermentation is basically going to boil down how to procure and identify how
to secure the right yeasts as a fermentation method."
(Shaul) make good beer
(:-)
(Nancy) We have, as changes to be approved or disapproved: add Community
Gardens, Brochure, rename On Foot, approve volunteer workers noted, add Methane
Gas, and remove Composting.
(Nancy) Ron says "I don't personally think
methane gas generation makes a good project, because in a post pole shift
environment, the effort to produce a usable amount of methane gas would be huge.
There are better ways of obtaining energy. Lets discuss on tt-inc before making
this a project."
(Shaul) fine by me.
(Gerard) ok
(Brent) ok
(Aron)
yes
(Nancy) Ron says "Also, re yeast and fermentation ; yes, it can include
alcohol and beer, but the main use is to preserve food stuffs. It's the main
technique used throughout the world."
(Shaul) I agree.
(Nancy) Hi, Brent
:-)
(Brent) Hi Nancy :)
(Nancy) I'd entertain a motion to make the project
changes outlined in the Agenda, table Methane Gas to discussion on
tt-inc.
(Brent) I second the motion
(Aron) I will make the motion to vote
on the project changes.
(Shaul) (Aron - it's already been made and
seconded...)
(Nancy) We have new volunteer workers on the On Foot (Michael
Murphy, a professional photographer) and Fermentation (John Dixon) and Community
Garden (barry Setser, a productive grower on the Seed TEAM).
(Shaul) I wholly
approve of these people, if this is what's sought
(Nancy) A motion has been
made and seconded to approve the project changes as outlined in the Agenda. All
in favor say Yes, opposed No.
(Shaul) Aye
(Brent) Yes
(Aron)
yes
(Roger) yes
(Nancy) Yes
(Shaul) (that was a 'yes'.
Sorry)
(Gerard) yes
(Nancy) Ron and Shirley say: Yes
(Nancy) The motion
passes.
(Nancy) Agenda Item 2 is Board and Officer changes. An action item is
to accept the resignation tendered by the President, and discuss a transition
plan.
(Nancy) This resignation and transition plan have been before the
Board, on the tt-inc mailing list, for most of the month, so this is not a
surprise.
(Jurian) yes
(Shaul) that's right
(Brent) yes
(Gerard)
yes
(Aron) true
(Shaul) I agree with what you suggest as the Transitional
Approach, Nancy
(Nancy) I, as outgoing President, have compiled a brief State
of the Corporation page, detailing key matters like staffing, finances, and
place of business.
(Aron) yes the group as president is a good idea, for all
of us
(Nancy) The Transition Plan I proposed is listed in a like manner,
showing how these key matters would change if the plan were accepted.
(Shaul)
There is the problem which was raised about changing the Bylaws so that the VP
doesn't act as President replacement
(Brent) The VP only acting in
proxy?
(Shaul) instead it was suggested that this provision be temporarily
suspended (or even permanenetly) at least until we have a regular
President
(Shaul) well, something like that, Brent. The VP can have other
duties, too.
(Nancy) The key issues to be approved by the Board would be 1.
accept Nancy's resignation as of today, 2. appoint Nancy to VP to act as proxy
for the Board as needed, 3. appoint Nancy as Internal Auditor to continue her
informal practice, 4. resolve to defer election or appointment of a new
President until the annual elections in January, 5. have a President-at-large
practice during the meetings this fall, letting Board Members practice being
President.
(Brent) of course...
(Shaul) I agree to all, except I think
that on the next meeting we'll have to have that Bylaws change.
(Shaul) just
in case, you know...
(Nancy) Let me clarify. The Board must resolve to defer
electing a new President and also make clear that Nancy as VP is NOT a
President, just available to act as proxy should some paper need to be signed,
etc. I would be the Board's proxy, acting only as they direct!
(Brent) I
understand
(Shaul) ok, I guess that will do for now. But the Bylaws will have
to be clarified on this point, just to prevent 'nitpicking'
(Shaul) which
some people like to do...
(Shaul) Nancy has to stay on as VP, it's vital for
keeping the most knoweledgeable person in the Officers circle, so to
speak
(Nancy) Shaul, since the Board can alter the Bylaws (except those
Bylaws that directly speak to membership rights), they can by resolution alter
the Bylaws temporarily in regard to deferring election, letting Board be the
President, Nancy as VP only acting on their behalf and under direct orders from
the Board, etc.
(Nancy) The resolution would limit, by time, its powers, so
to speak.
(Shaul) that's right, that's exactly what will need to be
done.
(Shaul) I'm just saying next meeting, so we have time to think about
exactly how to word it
(Shaul) Meanwhile we can vote on the propositions as
they stand.
(Nancy) Ron says: "I propose as resolution wording the following.
(more) ..."
(Nancy) Ron says: "Be it resolved that the Board of Troubled
Times, Inc. suspend the requirement to elect a new President within 30 days of a
vacancy in this position, and in its stead, the Board shall act as President
until the January, 2001 elections, and furthermore" (more ...
(Nancy) Ron
says: and furthermore, the Board shall appoint individual Board Members to
perform the duties of Agenda preparation and chairing of Board Meetings during
this time." (more ...
(Nancy) Ron says: "Secondly, be it resolved that the
duties of the VP shall be limited during this time to acting as Proxy for the
Board and shall not assume the Office or duties of the President."
(end)
(Roger) I move that the board adopt Ron's resolution as
stated.
(Shaul) That's excellent stuff, Ron! It will do,
absolutely.
(Nancy) Question: do you'all have to accept my letter of
resignation?
(Shaul) Yes, just for order we may as well vote on it, so I
motion to accept it. we need a second
(Nancy) We have as action items, to be
included in a votecall if appropriately grouped and without contention, the
following:
(Nancy) 1. accept resignation, 2. adopt resolution as worded, 3.
appoint Nancy as VP and IA.
(Nancy) Shirley says" I second Shaul's motion to
accept Nancy's resignation."
(Shaul) ah, well we may as well vote on the
whole thing then, if Nancy's done with the list
(Brent) agreed
(Roger) I
already moved to adopt the resolution.
(Shaul) sorry, must have missed
it.
(Brent) yes, shirley, it was Roger, not Shaul
(Nancy) Shaul has moved,
and Brent has seconded (incorporating other motions) to accept the list of
action items outlined by Nancy, including resolution was worded by
Ron.
(Nancy) All in favor say Yes, opposed No.
(Brent) yes
(Roger)
yes
(Gerard) yes
(Shaul) yes (sorry, it doesnt' really matter who proposed
it)
(Nancy) Yes
(Nancy) Ron and Shirley: Yes
(Nancy) The motion
passes.
(Shaul) wait, Roger's motion was to adopt Ron's resolution, which was
not on the agenda. I second Roger's motion to adopt Ron's resolution
(Nancy)
Agenda Item 3 is regarding Bylaw changes, various.
(Shaul) one sec
(Shaul)
we still need to adopt Ron's resolution, I mean
(Nancy) During the past
month it was noted that 1. membership referendums are not clear, as to how, 2.
we are getting volunteers to work on projects from folks not qualified to become
members, 3. we have a conflict in the $500 co-sign of checked by the
President.
(Nancy) Shaul, the motion and vote included Ron's resolution.
We've covered.
(Shaul) (ah, OK)
(Nancy) Ron says: "I move that the
proposed Bylaw changes, as listed on the Agenda, be accepted as
worded."
(Shaul) I second that
(Nancy) This would allow members to
understand the process by which referendums are to be called, and open the
membership to those volunteering directly to the nonprofit.
(Nancy) The $500
co-sign seems to be unnecessary if we impose other limits and have an active IA.
In fact, was put in because we did not have good oversight and no IA,
etc.
(Shaul) I agree. The issue of referendums was very much unclear after
the last Board meeting
(Shaul) also, there is the need to get people who have
actually done something to become members
(Nancy) The Bylaw changes was
drafted to replace the co-sign with a $1,000 limite per check unless the Board
approves. In fact, neither of these controls is enforced by the Bank.
(Shaul)
I think it's good to have a limit of that sort.
(Nancy) Shaul, at the start
of the corporation, in 1997, we had an active TOPIC development phase.
Opportunity was broad. Now we have closed down content gathering to a great
extent, many TOPIC's are mature, and opportunity to become members via the
constraints in the existing Bylaws is kind of absurd.
(Brent) I agree, even
if it is not enforced by the bank
(Brent) The function of the IA
(Nancy) A
motion has been made and seconded to accept the proposed Bylaw changes, as
drafted and presented in the Agenda. All in favor say Yes, opposed
No.
(Nancy) Yes
(Shaul) yes
(Brent) yes
(Aron) yes
(Nancy) Ron
and Shirley: Yes
(Nancy) The motion passes.
(Gerard) yes
(Gerard)
forgot mine
(Shaul) I agree about the constraints of membership having
greatly changed recently
(Roger) BTW, my vote was yes
(Shaul) There's one
thing I'd like you to consider before we move on
(Nancy) Agenda Item 4 is
Policy, and specifically the Project Management policy with new Binding
Agreement wording.
(Shaul) And that is the question of the 'evil tongues'
that may say something about Nancy acting as Auditor.
(Nancy) This has been
much discussed on the tt-inc mailing list, among not only the Board Members but
also the membership.
(Shaul) Just so you're aware of it, some may view this
as 'one hand checking the other'. An Auditor is usually an unconnected person,
that's my point
(Shaul) I'm all for the change. We just should be aware that
some are quick to accuse.
(Nancy) Shaul, what kind of evil toung statement
might be made? I check the physical PO's and Bank Statements and Receipts
against the Balance Statements that Ron present to you. How can this be
muddlied?
(Shaul) Oh I agree, Nancy, one has to really dig to find the flaw.
That's why i'm for the appointment
(Nancy) As you will note on the Auditor
link off the Transition Plan, which contains my entire Excel spreadsheet to the
present, nothing is being hidden!
(Shaul) that's very good. something like
that would act as an excellent safety against the 'back talk'
(Shaul) The
point is, we have to keep the tax authorities as well as the potential donors
happy.
(Shaul) so everything has to be wholly above-board and open. Just a
small point, and we can move on.
(Nancy) Our former Auditor was Jan, who
relied upon scanned receipts and Bank Statements sent to him. As the Board has
the right to examine the books, they can request various information from me, as
auditor, and I'd provide that.
(Aron) as long as every penny is out in the
open that should not be a problem
(Nancy) Let's do a spot check, as an
example! As me to provide to you documentation on some expense, that looks
"suspicious" or is large or whatever.
(Nancy) I'm panting and ready to
serve!
(Shaul) hehehe
(Brent) hehehehehehe
(Shaul) no, I didn't mean
that. Just to be ready, you know.
(Aron) we really dont have anything to
worry about here
(Shaul) Nancy's surely the best person to audit, being right
there on the spot
(Gerard) indee
(Gerard) d
(Nancy) Agenda Item 4 has
more than the new Project Management policy and Binding Agreement. I took a pass
at documenting de facto policy that has either by use or by Board vote been put
into practice.
(Brent) the Unwritten Policy section...
(Shaul) how is that
to be included?
(Nancy) No one has suggested any changes to the wording (such
as abstentions assumed on votecalls if there is no response), but the Board can
change Policy freely and can in future. Policy should be changed more often, and
the Bylaws kind of written in granite and left alone, my
understanding.
(Shaul) I agree. The Bylaws are like the Constitution, but we
can still make Laws
(Shaul) but we need an ordered list of such 'laws',
meaning the voted-on policy adoptions
(Nancy) I'm dead serious, however, on
the audits. I'd provide 1. when the Board authorized the expense, 2. what was
spent, 3. recipts on the expense, 4. check stuff, etc.
(Shaul) ok, we can do
a spot check with one, I suppose. It would lay to rest any fears on anybody's
part (and I'm thinking of the membership, actually...)
(Nancy) I drafted the
unwritten policy in a page called Unwritten Policy as a link off Agenda Item 4,
available for the past week.
(Shaul) it has been internalized by
us
(Nancy) I'll detail ..
(Nancy) The policies cover Votecalls (votecalls
to Board Members, when done or not done and abstentions on membership
votecalls)
(Nancy) Also, Privacy 9we use only 1st names on the logs,
etc.)
(Nancy) Also Disbursement (there have been times when expenses were
approved after the fact or receipts lost, so a signed statement has acted as
replacement)
(Shaul) that is an excellent idea, perfectly legal
(Shaul) on
large sums a notarization is sometimes required
(Nancy) Also Funding (we have
approved $2,000 more in authorized sending than cash in hand, because some
donations have been designated but are not ready to be expended yet.)
(Shaul)
all of this has been put out as a result of much experience on your part with
running the projects.
(Nancy) That's it, in unwritten policy, which I'm
suggesting should be written and include in the /policy/ stuff that Ron drafted
for Project Management. We can change this over time, and will, I'm sure, and
add to it, etc ...
(Shaul) It's very good, but perhaps should be made public
on the tt-inc home page, just so people know
(Brent) Yes, easy review for
future PI's
(Shaul) I'm not sure about that one, actually.
(Shaul) maybe
it could be considered 'private Board matters' or something, like the Privacy
issue. On the other hand - we have to be as public as we possibly can,
(Nancy) Shaul, exactly. We have a menu item on the home page called
Articles, and this page list Members, Grants, Officers, etc. and I think another
link called Policy would be in order :-)
(Shaul) ah, ok so you agree.
good
(Shaul) are we ready to discuss the agreement yet?
(Nancy) So the
action items before the Board are 1. approve (temporarily until further word
changes might be made) the unwritten policy into a Policy Book, 2. approve the
new and much discussed Project Management policy with attendant Binding
Agreement wording.
(Shaul) ok, I suggest we add to the agreement some of the
changes proposed by Jan, basically cosmetic changes. As I said on the group, I
agree with Ron that the PM and PI names should stay
(Nancy) Shaul, Ron and I
both thought your Binding Agreement excellent! Ron changed 1 word in there, per
the discussion on tt-inc.
(Shaul) thank you.
(Brent) Which changes,
Shaul?
(Roger) I, too, liked the current draft of the agreement.
(Brent) I
liked it also, good work, Shaul
(Shaul) ah, well I was stupid not to get it
ready in readable form for the meeting.
(Shaul) (the changes, i
mean)
(Shaul) thanks, everyone
(Nancy) The Binding Agreement as a link off
the Agenda was what was put before the Board and membership on tt-inc. The minor
change discussed will be changed for the offical version.
(Nancy) Brent, it
was changing 1 word, and excapes Ron at the moment. Something minor and not
affecting the substance.
(Shaul) ok, that will do, then. Because the changes
are basically your spell-checking, and will not influence the meaning
(Nancy)
Ron says he wants to word a resolution (more) ...
(Brent) Yes, Nancy, thats
fine, I was refering to the changes that Shaul brought up from Jan's
suggestions
(Shaul) they are cosmetic, as I say, such as putting "all
appendixes are part of this agreement" in the last article, instead of where
it's now
(Shaul) it changes nothing from the obligations.
(Shaul) he also
wanted it stated explicitly that the PI has a right to waive payment of any
kind
(Shaul) I don't think an explicit provision is necessary to waive
payment, but why not
(Shaul) There was one thing, though, brought up actually
by you, Brent, about the issue of the Multiple PM's
(Nancy) Ron says: "The
Board of Directors of Troubled Times, Inc. RESOLVES that policy statements be
included as an apendix to the Bylaws. Such policy statements shall be for the
purpose of defining how particular Bylaws shall be implemented."
(Shaul) I
agree with that one
(Nancy) Ron says: Shaul, the policy statements as written
provide for appointment of multiple PM's.
(Brent) I also agree, Shaul, the
multiple PM's issue was addressed, and Ron made additions to the Project
management Policy. I was acceptable to me.
(Shaul) it is true. I thought
there will be many and was surprised that there's just one, but I suppose we're
short of hands now
(Brent) I=it
(Nancy) If there is no futher discussion,
I'd entertain a motion that 1. Ron's resolution be accepted, 2. that the new
Project Mangement and Binding Agreement be accepted, 3. that the unwritten
policy be added to a Policy Book also, and 4. that a Policy link be placed along
with the Bylaw links from the Home Page.
(Shaul) ok, we're ready to vote
then.
(Shaul) I second that
(Shaul) (all of it)
(Roger) there is no
motion as of yet.
(Nancy) I'm considering Shaul's second to be a motion, as I
cannot move, as acting President.
(Shaul) Nancy just entertained one. That's
entertainment!
(Roger) I second
(Roger) Shaul's motion
(Shaul) ah ok, I
see.
(Brent) hehehe
(Shaul) So I moved it, and Roger seconded,
fine
(Nancy) A motion has been made and seconded to approve the Project
Management policy, the Binding Agreement, place al Policy link off the home
page, and incorporate the unwritten policy in this section. All in favor say
Yes, opposed No.
(Roger) yes
(Gerard) yes
(Shaul) yes
(Nancy) Ron
and Shirley: Yes
(Nancy) Yes
(Brent) yes
(Nancy) The motion
passes.
(Aron) yes
(Nancy) Ron would like to remind the Board that if he
is to act as Project Manager on various projects (I should at least be PM on the
research project in the basement, the worms/hydo/aqua) then he needs to be
appointed as such.
(Nancy) The active projects we have are 1. short wave
radio (Ron'
(Nancy) Again: 1. short wave radio (Ron PI), 2. worm/hydro/aqua
(Ron PI, Nancy PM), 3. Community Garden (Barry PI, Ron PM), 4. On Foot (Michael
PI, Ron PM), 5. Food Preservation (John PI, Ron PM), 6. Brochure (Nancy PI,
Shirley & Michel content, no PM)
(Nancy) Ron has offered to be the PM on
the Brochure too.
(Shaul) more power to him
(Brent) OK, I move to appoint
Ron as Project Manager, and Nancy as PM on Ron's PI Projects.
(Shaul) I
second that one
(Shaul) (in the event this motion is necessary)
(Nancy)
Ron says: "I need to be appointed for all new projects until such time as we
grow and can delegate to competent and experienced project managers."
(Shaul)
In that case, let's vote on the whole thing, including Ron's being PM for the
brochure
(Brent) agreed, and seconded if needed
(Nancy) A motion has been
made and seconded to appoint Ron at this time as general Project Manager on all
active projects except the worm/hydro/aqua project which Nancy will be PM upon.
All in favor say Yes, opposed say No.
(Brent) yes
(Gerard) yes
(Aron)
yes
(Nancy) Yes
(Shaul) yes
(Nancy) Ron and Shirley: Yes
(Roger) yes
(Nancy) The motion passes.
(Roger) btw, is the Seed project considered
active?
(Roger) (It wasn't on your list.)
(Nancy) Ron says: "In order for
me to properly perform the PM functions, I need authorization from the Board to
purchse MicroSoft Project 2000 at a cost of between $350 and $550."
(Nancy)
Roger, yes, I forgot the Seed TEAM support!
(Shaul) what does that software
actually offer that we don't already have?
(Shaul) ('fraid I don't know much
about it)
(Nancy) This should be included, and I will act as the PI and Ron
as PM if this is acceptable. Roger and Toni are hubs, our active hubs
now.
(Shaul) we don't need to vote again, because we said 'Ron is PM on all
active projects"
(Roger) Actually, the website states Toni and I as PI's, but
the PM is not listed.
(Nancy) Ron says: "Shaul, the Project Management
software allows one to specify project tasks and schedule, resouces in terms of
manhouse and equipment, etc., thus producing both time and cost. MS 2000 allows
all this information to be exported in html format so that it can be posted on
the web.
(Roger) Check
http://www.zetatalk.com/nonproft/98002001.htm
(Brent) So, Ron would now be
the PM for the Seed Team Support?
(Nancy) Roger, as a result of this Board
Meeting, I will have to go back and make changes to the project pages, etc.
listing PM.
(Shaul) OK, I understand about the Project 2000. I want to ask a
question that a donor would ask: why can't it be done mannually?
(Shaul) (ok,
i'll wait, one discussion at a time)
(Aron) :-)
(Nancy) This is kind of a
sleeper, as the hubs basically run this, and it is somewhat driven by the
growers.
(Roger) (I understand that, I was just curious if Ron would be the
PM for the Seed Team Support.)
(Roger) Sorry for the parans
(Nancy) Ron
says: "Shaul, this can be done manually, however it is incredibly labor
intensive and I will only act as PM under the assistance of
software."
(Shaul) Well, Ron as PM would have to decide if Nancy's an OK PI
for the seed team)
(Shaul) it's not me asking this, it's the donor,
understand
(Shaul) I'm a nice man, myself
(Roger) I think Ron's request is
reasonable as he will be PM for a great deal many projects and this software
will help to save some of his time.
(Shaul) I agree, Roger. This stuff is
made to greatly speed up the 'grunt' time
(Roger) I move to approve Ron's
request for authorization to purchase MS Project 2000.
(Nancy) Roger, let's
you and I brainstorm this a bit. What would a PM do? We plant, we wait until
seeds come in, and we count and report. We have no spcific schedule to date.
Maybe in the future when we fund more seed gardens, employ growers perhaps, this
would change. Have I stated this correctly?
(Shaul) I second Roger's
motion
(Roger) As I see it, yes
(Nancy) A motion has been made and
seconded to authorize a purchase of MS Project 2000, for apprximately $500, to
support the genearal PM position that Ron will be filling. All in favor say Yes,
opposed No.
(Nancy) Yes
(Roger) A PM for the Seed Team Support would
mainly coordinate the purchase of new varieties of seed, maintain the existing
database of seed stock, etc.
(Roger) yes
(Gerard) yes
(Brent)
yes
(Aron) yes
(Shaul) yes
(Nancy) Ron and Shirley: Yes
(Nancy)
Roger, I'd see that as a hub activity. As long as funds are designated by our
long faithful donor, then this is a PI decision, and I approve of what you and
Toni do as hubs!
(Nancy) The motion passes.
(Nancy) The last item on the
Agenda is a discussion item, but really needs to be beaten to death on tt-inc,
not today.
(Nancy) I'd suggest tabling it to discussion on tt-inc.
(Shaul)
I agree
(Brent) yes, me too
(Shaul) There's so much stuff
there...
(Shaul) all that policy will surely need to be made, and
soon
(Nancy) There is one last item we need to settle before we close,
however (assuming a motion to adjourn) and that is apointing a
President-at-Large for next month's meeting. I'd nominate Brent for first
President/Chari.
(Shaul) I move to nominate Brent as stated
(Aron) i
second
(Nancy) Ron seconds the motion too
(Nancy) A motion has been made
and seconded to have Brent as President-at-Large for the October meeting. He
will prepare the Agenda and Chair the meeting. All in favor Yes, opposed
No.
(Nancy) Yes
(Roger) Do we all understand the extent of the duties of
the President-at-large?
(Shaul) yes
(Nancy) Shirley and Ron: Yes
(Aron)
yes
(Gerard) yes
(Brent) yes
(Roger) oops.
(Roger) yes
(Nancy)
The motion passes.
(Brent) Yes, Roger, can we discuss this a
little?
(Shaul) Roger - I think it's pretty clear on the posting that Nancy's
made to the tt-inc
(Nancy) Ron says: "Lets limit the duties of the
President-at-Large to preparation of the meeting agenda and chairing the
meeting. All other duties shall be performed by the Board or its delaged
proxy."
(Shaul) we're talking basically about two things: creating an agenda
for the Board's next meeting, and chairing that meeting, as Nancy has done
now
(Shaul) (hehehe... exactly what I wrote)
(Roger) That is
reasonable.
(Nancy) I think I scoped that in the motion, as stated, to be
voted upon. ONLY the powers stated in the motion, no more no less.
(Shaul)
good
(Brent) OK, prepare the Agenda, and Chair the
Meeting...agreed
(Shaul) go get 'em
(Nancy) This means that we should
notify the membership that any items they feel should be included in the agenda
be address to Brent. A Secretary duty, prehaps.
(Roger) Good luck Brent
(you'll do fine (g))
(Shaul) good luck, man
(Gerard) i am sure you will do
good job brent
(Brent) Thanks,(g)...I have never chaired before...first times
a charm! :-)
(Nancy) Congradulations to this Board, as we finished a heavy
agenda in 1.5 hours! The meetings have been, lately, going to 2 hours or more,
our goal of an hour missed by far.
(Shaul) this is great to see
(Nancy)
I'd entertain a motion to adjourn, if there is no further business to be
discussed.
(Shaul) I move to adjourn
(Nancy) Ron says" I move to
adjourn"
(Aron) i move to adjourn
(Roger) Read up on your Robert's Rules
of Order...
(Shaul) hehehe
(Brent) I second
(Nancy) Shirley says: I
second the motion
(Brent) hehehehe
(Nancy) A motion has been made and
seconded to adjourn. All in favor say Yes, opposed No.
(Nancy)
Yes
(Gerard) yes
(Roger) yes
(Shaul) yes
(Brent) yes
(Aron)
yes
(Nancy) Shirley and Ron: Yes
(Nancy) The motion passes, the meeting is
adjourned.