Log
Board Meeting
November 18, 2001

(Brent) Ok, I officially call the meeting to order.
(Brent) Item 1 any comments about the minutes of last meeting?
(Mary) None here.
(Gerard) None here
(Brent) Shirley: no
(Jurian) None here
(Toni) No
(Brent) Then the minutes are ratified as correct
(Brent) We will assume Roger had no comment... :-)
(Roger) Yea, no comment.
(Brent) Item 2: Shaul's Resignation. This announcement is for the official record, and any discussion should be for the record only. Comments?
(Jurian) Nothing to say about it, except that I think we've lost a good man here.
(Roger) We are loosing a great member and I am inclined to not accept it.
(Mary) I for one would like to ask Shaul to reconsider. If he has a problem, it is with Nancy and not with the board?
(Gerard) He decided himself to leave, his choice .. No further comments
(Roger) We should appeal to him to reconsider.
(Brent) Yes, he was an asset to the board, and will be greatly missed. I hope he remains active on our lists.
(Mary) Has he communicated with anyone on the board?
(Jurian) Not that I know of
(Roger) Not me.
(Brent) Not me... Shirley: no
(Gerard) Not me.
(Toni) No not me
(Brent) Shirley says: it's done, we can't do anything about it.
(Mary) Would anyone, Brent, offically ask him to reconsider and if at the next meeting he still wishes to resign we accept it.
(Brent) Ok then... moving along.
(Brent) Item 3: UNIX servers online... Jurian?
(Jurian) Nothing to report, still waiting for the router.
(Jurian) I think, if they won't hurry up and get the router shipped, we might want to look at buying it somewhere else.
(Jurian) Cause this delay is getting rather ridiculous.
(Roger) I agree
(Brent) The router is still backordered? Yes, this is getting ridiculous!
(Toni) What choices are there?
(Gerard) I agree too, it's taking a while now, some months?
(Brent) Maybe Nancy should contact "Scott" again, and light a fire under him!
(Jurian) Yeah
(Jurian) See if there is any idea on how long this is gonna take.
(Jurian) If they can't answer that, buy it somewhere else, its just a standard router, nothing fancy.
(Brent) Great, do you want to discuss with Nancy, Jurian?
(Jurian) Sure
(Brent) Great! We'll see what develops in the next few weeks, before the next meeting.
(Jurian) Yep
(Brent) Ok Item 4: Booklet costs, for mass production... comments? I'd like to add that a member of the Inc, Laura also gathered prices, and the board thanks her for her efforts!
(Mary) Breaking out the prices submitted by Laura, the cost of the books break down to $6.40 each.
(Mary) The diffence is they are stapled and not bound.
(Mary) Our current costs are about $2.86 after the inital outlay.
(Brent) As I remember, Laura's quote were for 8 1/2 x 11 size.
(Mary) She had both sizes.
(Mary) No, she didn't just both sides, sorry.
(Toni) The quotes I got were about $3.00...
(Toni) With a possible discount.
(Mary) After 1,000 ordered?
(Toni) For non-profit and for the possibility of repeat orders
(Toni) Yes
(Toni) I just asked for quotes on 1000
(Mary) That's great! $3 is a really good price.
(Toni) I think any Kinko's or Office Depot would do the same.
(Toni) It does seem worth considering.
(Mary) I agree except for the $3000 outlay.
(Brent) Question: can we justify printing 1000 copies at this time?
(Toni) There are still the labels, envelopes, postage, etc.
(Jurian) How many have we sent out so far?
(Mary) Only 27
(Jurian) 1000 would be a bit overkill then, I think
(Brent) Plus, at this time, I do not believe that we have the money to spend. Maybe in the first part of the year.
(Mary) Toni, check on prices for 100 books. See what the difference is.
(Mary) ... please check on prices... ..sorry.
(Toni) Ok. Does anyone else have an Office Depot or Kinko's near them?
(Mary) Not me, I live in the middle of nowhere.
(Toni) I really can't take the order and ship them from here.
(Jurian) Nope, but that may be because we don't have those in Holland :-)
(Mary) Nancy does.
(Toni) Roger? Brent?
(Roger) Huh?
(Toni) Do you have an Office Depot near you or Kinko's?
(Brent) Yes, I have one close by... .I'll check also. Don't worry about placing an order, Toni, we wouldn't make you do that. :-), just comparative prices.
(Roger) I have a Kinko's and a competitor, but I am swamped already...
(Roger) I could check prices as a comparison.
(Toni) This still has not been formally announced as being available on our lists, as Sol requested.
(Brent) So Toni and I can get comparative prices... east and west coast.
(Toni) I think 100 would go right away even from within the membership..
(Jurian) Exactly, it should be announced..
(Mary) I have 22 books ready to go, awaiting Nancy's revision pages.
(Brent) Yes, we were waitng for Nancy to give Mary the pages, and get a stockpile of booklets ahead.
(Mary) Nancy can announce with a blurp stating that delivery may take up to 4 weeks or such.
(Brent) Plus, we have to announce that the booklet is available for dowmload, online.
(Mary) After the initial push, it will slack off to reasonable requests again.
(Mary) Definitely get the download thing announced first.
(Mary) Definitely
(Brent) Yes... .Has Nancy sent the revised pages?
(Mary) Nope, she's been too busy.
(Mary) We can send as is though. It's the diabetes thing that Shirley found.
(Mary) And Rogers addition.
(Toni) The Jerusalem Artichoke, which grows wild as well as cultivated, actually contains, Insulin ...
(Toni) which is nature's insulin, and was widely promoted by Edgar Cayce ...
(Toni) for diabetics. And it is certainly yummy. It can be dug from say Oct to late May in this area ...
(Toni) can be eaten raw, or steamed like potatoes.
(Mary) For now, lets get Nancy to announce on what's new the availability of the downloaded booklet
(Toni) I planted some tubers in spring and have already harvested some tubers this fall.
(Roger) There is a mention of this plant in my texts, but it wasn't referenced as "proven" (no study had been performed yet).
(Toni) Of course, why take money away from E Lily?
(Mary) And give it a week or so and announce the book.
(Toni) Insulin is Big Business.
(Roger) 'Tis true!
(Roger) They wouldn't support the "discovery" of a natural replacement to their high dollar chemical.
(Brent) We should add the Jerusalem Artichoke info to the booklet.
(Mary) Get it to Nancy.
(Brent) Toni, would you forward the info to Nancy for inclusion?
(Toni) I'm not sure where it is documented, probably in the Cayce Health readings.
(Roger) My references do not really talk much about it. It is mentioned as a useful herb, but no mention of 'insulin'
(Toni) I'll see what I can do.
(Brent) Well, is there any other documentation on insulin we could find?
(Toni) Cayce Health readings are available on a CD ...
(Toni) which I don't have.
(Brent) Thanks, Toni... Roger, can you help document anything in your research?
(Toni) they may be online as well.
(Toni) I am no longer a member of the A.R.E.
(Brent) Well, whatever we can do... maybe discuss with Nancy via email.
(Brent) Shirley suggests that we carry on as we are now, and table this whole discussion for the January meeting.
(Brent) More
(Brent) When the download announcement about the booklet will have been made to the membership, and we will know by then if the nonproft is in a position to fund multiple booklet orders from a print shop.
(Mary) OK. Let's move on.
(Brent) Great!
(Roger) I agree with Shirley.
(Brent) Item 5: Progress of Short wave radio project
(Brent) Comments on Shirley's report?
(Jurian) Not really, looking forward to hearing her progress with the packet modes :-)
(Gerard) No comments
(Brent) Shirley says: Jurian, next Thursday the instructor is coming to our house to see what I have (more)
(Mary) Is this costing you $?
(Jurian) Cool, hope you get it working :-)
(Brent) in the way of equipment, and we are going to proceed from there.
(Mary) For the private instructor.
(Jurian) Very well :-)
(Brent) Shirley: Mary, it may, not the instruction, but I may have to buy more equipment, which I am prepared to do.
(Mary) Good for you.
(Brent) Any more questions or comments?
(Jurian) Nope
(Brent) Ok... Item 6 Rogers Acreage Project... report.
(Roger) After burning off the field, both my associate and I have been too busy to do any tilling.
(Roger) We did go out there and try our hands at it a bit with the big tiller. It is do-able and then we ran out of fuel, so I winterized the tiller and left it at that.
(Roger) The weather has been nice, but with the time change, there isn't much time in the evenings and I have had too much to do around here to get out there on the weekends.
(Brent) And the money we gave you to till the property... when will you use that?
(Roger) That money is being held in reserve, for now.
(Brent) Is it too late to till this year? Will you save the tilling till spring?
(Roger) I do not think we will be to get a tractor out there and get it done this year, but who knows...
(Roger) If nothing else, then certainly we will till/plow next spring.
(Brent) A few meetings back, we were talking about winter storage of the equipment, and fencing.
(Roger) The fence posts are in place and the blisters are healed. I have the barbed wire in my trunk and will hopefully be able to get out there and get the fence finished this year.
(Roger) The equipment is stored/locked in my associate's barn.
(Roger) I think that is it. I have been thinking more about the layout of the "garden" and am still open to suggestions about what the priority of plant variety should be.
(Brent) Sounds great! Thanks for the report! Suggestions can be made through email from the membership about planting in the spring. Good idea.
(Roger) I am thinking beans, mostly and some corn. Perhaps wheat, though I don't have a spring variety on hand. Buckwheat is another possibility. I won't likely have much time to cultivate herbs, etc. so I need low maintenance/self mulching crops.
(Mary) I move this meeting be offically closed
(Roger) Hold on a bit Mary...
(Mary) Hey, I got a cow elk to find before Tues ;-)
(Roger) As is the usual precedent, we should motion to postpone the next meeting to January, unless some pressing business is anticipated for December.
(Roger) (Consider that my motion, I suppose.)
(Brent) Roger, what motion?
(Roger) To postpone the next meeting to January.
(Jurian) Doh, someone's late :D
(Jurian) Hi, just in time to say goodbye :-)
(Gerard) Jan: the meeting is almost finished
(Brent) Welcome Jan, we're just about to wrap the meeting! :-)
(Roger) Hehe, hello Jan!
(Jan) I'm so sorry - the summer / winter time change got me...
(Jan) Sorry about this :-(
(Jurian) No worries
(Brent) We're just talking about the tradition of not having a December meeting because of the Holidays.
(Mary) I second Roger's motion to forego the Dec. meeting.
(Jurian) Well, unless we get the router soon, I don't see why we'd need a meeting in December :)
(Jan) Was I missed during the Shaul discussion? Since I was the one calling it "unprofessional conduct"...
(Brent) We have a motion to forgo the December meeting... Vote yes or no
(Mary) By January we'll know more about the server and the booklets.
(Jurian) Yes
(Roger) The router and the booklet expenses can likely be handled by email if needed.
(Roger) Yes
(Toni) Yes
(Gerard) Yes
(Jan) Yes
(Mary) Yes
(Brent) Shirley: yes, Brent Yes
(Brent) The motion carries
(Toni) Bye everyone, thanks.
(Roger) And now, I second Mary's motion to adjourn.
(Mary) Thanks Roger!!!!
(Brent) Toni we haven't adjourned the meeting...
(Toni) I'm still here.
(Brent) Good! :-)
(Roger) Hehe, whoops, I guess that should be hohoho!
(Brent) We have a motion to adjourn... .the meeting is now officially adjourned.
(Brent) See you all in January! Have a happy holiday!