The tt-watch Coup
By February of 2002 Nancy Lieder's tt-watch Yahoo Group had began to unravel. As criticism mounted from skeptics concerning Nancy's non-existent Planet X, the true believers of the ZetaTalk message demanded action be taken. All dissenting opinion on tt-watch had to be quashed, so that only material which reinforced the premise of the true believers would remain for discussion. Soon after this coup, tt-watch became merely a posting board for various reports of strange weather and earthquake anomalies. Most of the "hard" discussion of Planet X was stripped from the group, thus eliminating the threat to Nancy's Zeta channellings. Partly as a result of this supression of information, and partly due to the growing irregularities and lack of evidence flowing from Nancy's messages, the cries of "Cult" began to appear on competing discussion groups and on the Usenet.

Below are the postings to tt-watch which triggered the coup.
From: "Jan"
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 6:36 pm
Subject: Dismissal of the TT Posse?

TT Members & Listers,

It is obvious to me that the TT Posse (or so-called "List Police") is not
fulfilling its purpose.

Lately, we have had Laura McDonald calling JosX a disruptor because he
questioned the Posse, and stating that she's "Glad you're here Michael" to
our infamous disruptor. A few months ago she also got into a heated debate
on TT Watch about STO or STS, implants etc. where she clearly showed she did
not understand the TT premises.

George Ganter recently stated that "Michael is a skeptic, but he is a
skeptic with serious equipment and astronomical knowledge. He has searched
for Planet X at the Zetas' coordinates on several occasions along with
numerous other amateur astronomers who he engaged in the effort [...]", even
though Michael himself has stated that he will not search for Planet X until
the Zetas say it can be seen in amateur telescopes.

George also mentioned Sol, who stepped down from the TT Board a few months
ago due to his inappropriate behavior in attacking another TT officer,
namely Nancy. Previously, Sol had stated in an e-mail to another disruptor
(remember Christer, anyone?) that he thought Nancy was insane, whereupon
said disruptor forwarded that e-mail to Nancy & me. Is Sol still a member of
the Posse?

The TT Posse as it currently operates seems to quietly encourage attacks on
Nancy or her "followers" to the level where the TT Watch list is losing its
focus. (There are a few Posse members I highly respect and never would
accuse of supporting any such attacks, namely Clipper and Brent. It may seem
they are outnumbered by the rest of the Posse when it comes to allowing the
current misconduct on the TT Watch list.)

In addition to the postings from Michael L Cunningham, I find a number of
recent postings out of line without any comment whatsoever from the Posse.
Such postings have been noted from Otto Zork, Bill Glenn, Brian Gillbanks,
Stephen Spiesser et al. This has also lead to a number of their followers
making themselves heard with negative comments, still without a word from
the Posse.

Given the current state of the TT Posse, I hereby call for the dismissal of
this group as the TT list moderators, to be replaced by an appointed officer
acting as the primary TT List Moderator. For this position, I would like to
nominate Clipper. (I do know that Clipper will be unavailable for much of
this summer, but still think he is the right man for this position.)

The TT Moderator can himself appoint assistants as necessary. In addition,
all members of the TT Board should be able to step in as moderators if
needed.

Regards,
Jan
From: "mw3172001"
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 7:16 pm
Subject: Re: Dismissal of the TT Posse?

I agree, Jan. I see many instances on other lists where these negative
comments by current tt-members are played to advantage when they can crow:
"Even TT members are saying Nancy is crazy." "Even TT members are saying the
purpose of implants is just to control their minds for evil purposes." The
people on this list should support the premise of the Troubled Times website.
If they have a change of heart and suddenly cannot believe in benevolent aliens
or Planet X, they should go quietly and politely away, not start trying to
sabotage the group. I agree with your assessments of the posse.
There are many ways to sabotage the Planet X message, and it's so much easier
if it is done by insiders.
I'm politely asking those of the posse and others on this list: If you do not
support the premise of Troubled Times please do not post to or moderate this
list. We do not want or need to be concverted to your new religion. We do not
need to be saved by you or your new gods. Respect our beliefs and allow us to
express them here in peace without snide remarks from you. Thank you.


Milly
From: "nancylieder"
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2002 8:23 pm
Subject: Re: Dismissal of the TT Posse?

Since Milly and Jan, long (since the beginning of TT) have in essence
called for a votecall by the membership of TT (those who have
contributed) I'll put forth a votecall on this matter. Will be done
before the sun sets here in the west (i.e. the US). I also have felt
for some time that the tt-possee was not doing its job, and in fact
had been setup by questionable influences. As was tt-welcome, which
sent ALL off to Hazelwood, after it had been clear by Brent post that
he was out to scam money from all! And had been BANNED by the very
posse whom Sol was a member of!
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