Zeta Prophets 2001 - 2002
First appeared on the 15th Sept 2001, but was then "expanded" on the 15th November 2001. (There is no copy of the original although it must be assumed that part of it at least is contained within the updated version.)
During 2002:
http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t106.htm
"The calendar years leading into the pole shift year will see the culmination of many trends, and a few new trends."
Interestingly I hope you'll note the word "new trends". Remember that as you read through the text. You'll find none.
"Erratic weather causing droughts and deluges and temperature swings affect commercial crops and food relied upon by hunter-gathering groups alike, so distress from weather created disasters and food shortages will increase, as will the resulting anger of governed populaces against their ineffectual governments and migrations of peoples attempting to find a better place. These have been existing trends, not new."
Ok, but we still haven't seen any crop failures or food shortages.
"Governments react to problems placed before them that they cannot solve by pointing the finger outside their borders, as a threatened country supports its leadership and fears to undermine it during such times. Using outside threats, so that many countries point fingers at each other, can be expected to increase during 2002."
Ah, I guess this is a reference to 911. But there are no outside threats to the US unless you mean Iraq and we all know what that's all about.
"This likewise is not a new trend going into the pole shift. Increasing quakes and volcanic eruptions, as well as high tides and ocean whirlpools, will get little media attention so as not to alarm an already uneasy populace, but will nevertheless occur. These and heating of the Earth from the core, causing melting polar ice and glaciers, is not new but an existing trend."
Same as before and done to death.
"We have predicted that in the year prior to the shift that satellites will fail, consistently. Earthquake and volcano activity will steadily increase, on a somewhat linear scale."
Something new at last, but wait a minute on closer inspection Nancy has stated that no one will notice these missing satellites so its sort of a shot in her own foot, prediction wise.
"Earthquakes and volcanoes are reacting to the heating up and activity in the core, which has a great deal of drag in that there is a large amount of matter to heat up and increasing motion in this is not that easy, the core being heavy matter and inclined to hug itself closely. Thus, the increasing approach of the 12th Planet will be less noticeable on Earth than would be expected, when looking at the rapidly diminishing distance. However, should one run statistics on the changes, one would see other than lineal changes overall. It is simply that the core must increase substantially in its temperature or motion for a small increase evident on the crust. This is not lineal, and the crust is pushed outward when increased heat and swirling about occur, so is less subject to rubbing one plate against another and there are more places where magma can ooze out in the deep ocean rifts."
Not earthquakes again? So where are they?
"Thus, there will be increases, as there will be increasing crop shortages, but the most noticeable effect to mankind will be the sociological changes, during 2002. The establishment will become guarded, start to falter in their explanation for the changes, and start to enclose themselves into enclaves safe from the populace. New leadership, from the masses so to speak, will arise, filling the void. These will be noticed, and much the talk, while the weird weather and increasing quakes will be scarcely noticed. So these trends are what will be new, in 2002, as a trend leading into the pole shift."
No shortages, no sociological changes, no new leadership nothing as described.
"increasing polarization by orientation into either Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self groups, to the point of being distinct and noticeable."
Where?
"safe haven offerings by Service-to-Self groups intent on garnering slaves and expertise from those desperate from recent disasters or unemployment."
Where?
"steps to actually prepare for the coming troubled times by individuals who have formerly only mulled over the earth changes and government responses."
Possibly, but then I don't know everyone personally. So they're hardly likely to admit it, hence we're hardly likely to notice it. Another shot in the foot?
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Did you notice there were no "new trends"? But there is one interesting word, "culmination" although one would have to wait until 2003 to see their end. Erratic weather; government reaction; migrations; geological events, crop shortages etc. Indeed the only difference is Nancy's failing satellellite's.
The next appeared on 15th march 2002. I guess to explain these new trends missed during the last session.
Trends:
http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t126.htm
"There are several trends that will emerge, shortly."
New or old?
"The first is the cover-up, becoming so distressed that cracks are appearing with no mortar at hand to repair them. If the inbound planet, Planet X, will soon start a zoom so rapid that it will be visible to amateurs in the night sky, with their equipment, by mid-2002, then what are they to say? All explanations such as a new comet, a nova, or a new phenomena previously unknown to man, will only go so far. Thus, NASA and the observatories they control, which are to a greater extent than the man on the street realizes, essentially all observatories, are almost paralyzed in the way to proceed. Various silly explanations, many of which will be contradictory, may emerge, but the contradictions and delays in explanation will clue the thinking man into realizing that a cover-up indeed in effect. Not the result hoped for. Thus, the next trend re the cover-up is incompetence, conflicting explanations, and increasing cracks."
First off we have the "Cover-up" or rather a slowly crumbling exposure of the truth as it emerges when reading, regarding the approaching rogue planet. Well first off this is not a new trend, it was covered way back in the archives. Second there is nothing as yet to make excuses for. They can't find anything at the co-ordinates, not that any recent ones have been given. Third this one will soon be blown sky high as it should be visible shortly and if there's nothing there to see how can anyone contradict or delay an explanation.
"The second trend is climate and weather changes, increasing ocean warming and melting poles, and quakes striking in places not previously experiencing them, in the memory of man. This is already rising alarm and open discussion on the streets, such that the nightly news has become irrelevant, and the man on the street senses that their leadership is not leading, but suppressing the truth. The man on the street is looking for an explanation, but none is coming from the news, the government, the church, or anyone in authority. Thus, they go underground, talking to friends, who invariably have some sense of an inbound Planet X, and ZetaTalk, or similar information. The result of this breaking away from the given authority, to self-thinking, is that the populace will start their own discussions, break into the news, and the establishment will become distressed. So, a cover-up with cracks, and an establishment challenged by the man on the street, asking questions they are not prepared to address."
The next trend is weather and geological. Again not a new trend.
"Third, comes an upsurge of interest in alternative news, Planet X sites such as ZetaTalk and others long researching this with clear thinking and a history of valid reporting. These will be sought, and transmitted, and given support, where the establishment news is pushed aside. This is the activity that many sense around the corner, the groundswell from people sensing that their government is lying to them, the churches irrelevant, and the news suppressed such that only irrelevancies are reported. Thus, going into the cataclysms, those who have been pushed into the corners, given no validity by the establishment, will have their day, and be exhausted with the activity. Alternative news sources have always been harassed, but have survived. They are established routes that have never been suppressed, nor can they be. Stomping on one creates another, or many others, so the establishment relies on the numbers. If the majority of the working man watches approved nightly news, and plods along, then the establishment feels they can survive and co-exist with alternative news, although uneasily."
Third an increase in alternative news and web based sites. Now this is new, but they've already been increasing exponentially and most of them covering other new age, alien, doomsday, conspiracy material. So this isn't new.
"For those in Europe or elsewhere, where news is not so suppressed, the trend will be primarily the appearance in the sky of an object, inbound, viewable by amateurs, moving, unexplained by the establishment. To the degree that those populations can deal with the coming changes, discussions on the news will be allowed. In countries where the population cannot be saved, such as in Indonesia or India, the news will be suppressed, utterly. The elite feeling that any panic would be a spark to a firestorm, and thus feared. In countries where news in general is suppressed, such as in the Muslim countries, news of a coming cataclysm will be discussed back alley or back room as today, and not become a source of panic under the heavy hand of control these populations expect. Many will find relief, in that they have long sensed changes coming, without acknowledgment by the establishment. For those who wish to deny, this will be a clue to proceed to solid denial, with spending available cash, and intense partying until the end. For those who care for and worry about dependents, this will be a clue to take action, take those camping trips or purchase that houseboat, long planned but an expense deemed outside the reasonable. For those fearing the awakening of the populace, this will be a clue to retreat to their enclaves, soon to be protected by the military in the US, and elsewhere, unknown to the public or already protected by the military of the country."
Remember were already in July with only five months to go. So the end of this year is going to be busy. Don't blink or you might miss it. Lastly we have a bit about Europe, middle East and a bit of finance. None of it new. So where are these new trends?
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The next contribution was on the 15th April:
Quickening
(Stolen from Highlander no doubt)
http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t129.htm
"In early 1995, when discussion of the coming pole shift began within ISCNI, the focus was on the shift itself and the new geography afterwards. As those who are planning a trip think of the beach, and what to wear, not of the fatigue during the road trip or flat tire that might occur. As we have explained, the week of rotation stoppage does not arrive unannounced. But there are aspects of these predictions not detailed, which are comingapparent the year prior to the shift. What are some of these aspects?"
Back to good ol' 1995......
"Plate Shifting Earthquakes have been predicted by us to increase in frequency and strengthgoing into the shift itself, and this includes the present time, the year prior to the shift. Earth crust plates that are coming under increasing pressure will no longer react only with increased quakes, shaking and minor adjustments along the fault lines. The plates will start to show these signs of increased pressure in their interior. It was noted that black water appeared in the Caribbean, which we described as dirt freed from overlapping rock layers recently disturbed."
......and what do we have once again. Earthquakes, earthquakes, earthquakes. When are they supposed to start?
"Subsequent to this, a train wreck in Florida occurred, just after the tracks were inspected, and the engineer reported seeing buckled tracks in front of him. Why did the tracks buckle? The ground not only heaved, it moved sideways, or compressed, and this will not be the only occurrence of such a train wreck for similar reasons. Plates under pressure may or may not adjust according to their known or anticipated reactions. Mountain building can occur, in a small degree, and likewise sudden depression in areas that are subducting. In every plate, there are areas where the layers of rock are crumbly, not solid, and when this crumbles, anything could happen on the surface, from a drop to a rise, including shifts in the water table."
Tremors are so selective now? They can buckle a single piece of track without effecting any surrounding area? Sounds more like a good excuse for rail company to get themselves out of any legal tangles. Is this the best example she could find? And we are to believe this when every other so called prediction has failed to emerge?
Imploding Cities
"The ground under cities will experience this too. Urban residents are lulled into thinking that they are safe, the gas lines capped and water lines tight, electric power trips to keep surges in line. Millions go to work and fall asleep assured by their leaders that all is in hand, with rescue teams alert and at the ready. In fact, the weak link is just waiting to break, from a source not anticipated by the city architects. Water lines can snap when the piping is put under pressure or stretched. Gas lines certainly can experience cracks and snaps. If electrical power lines, not as insulated as reported, and leaking gas, and water that conducts electricity, are put together, what do you have? Building with heavy plumbing running up to all the toilets and showers have a sinkhole developing under them, they will implode. Gas lines leaks set off in an explosion cause by adjustments under a city, will not just be limited to a building or block, but will ricochet through the city, creating a holocaust potentially. Some of these potentially can make the World Trade Center disaster look mild. To predict just what soft spot might adjust, or what fault line might lift, in the year prior to the shift is flirting with our guidelines from the Council of Worlds which forbid us to warn mankind of specific, immediate, dangers such as quakes."
Nice descriptive passage intended to create fear rather than predict anything. So when is all this going to happen? We've been waiting since 1995.
Weather Extremes
"Weather irregularities will continue in the manner we have described since 1995, with increasing swings and extremes. In that weather irregularities are smoothed, by nature, by increased atmospheric activity or ocean currents, temperature extremes will not occur. Rather, oscillating extremes, similar to what the world has already experienced, will occur. Sudden shift to cold weather, sudden unseasonably warm weather, and the like."
But there haven't been any since 1995.
"Crop shortages and difficulties in growing crops to marketability will likewise follow these weather extremes. Atmospheric disturbances, beyond those usually encountered and thus watched for by pilots, are occurring. Even prior to the year before the shift, what is called micro-bursts were being increasingly reported and downed planes blamed on this. If the weather is moving to extremes, this equates to hotter air masses, colder drafts, and sudden wind equalizing these air masses."
What crop shortages?
"Beyond these problems, airplanes use satellites to guide them, magnetic orientation to guide them, and these
likewise will either fail on occasion or given invalid readings."
So even at its extreme distance the "rogue menace" will effect magnetic devices, despite our own greater internal influence? Is everything containing iron suddenly going to leap off world when the 12th draws to its closest point of passing? It must have one hell of a magnetic field at that distance? I don't think even Jupiter exerts that kind of effect and she's a giant.
Economic Collapse
"Struggling companies, worldwide, will find they must shrink or die and this activity affects the economy worldwide, with teetering economies collapsing in stages, as we have predicted. Once this process starts, there will be domino effects, with a rapid collapse of the markets and banks. The barter system will be utilized in the year prior to the shift, increasingly, even when the monetary system in a country is supposedly secure and stabilized. The public, seeing how rapidly Argentina went into the toilet, and the glowing terms ascribed to the banking and Stock Markets of the world, are suspicious. How many Enron's are out there? And knowing that the public will be the last to hear about a pending collapse, they are thinking how to survive, now, and not waiting for their leadership to shaft them. There are dozens of Enrons, many with far worse accounting and broader impact. In fact, our prediction on a Stock Market collapse, wherein the value of today's stock falls to 1/4 its current value, will be triggers in the main by revelations of this. These situations have a tenuous hold, now, and could unravel based on any number of breaks in the dike."
More finance collapse? Barter system year prior to the shift? (But isn't that now?) So where is it? Collapse without the public knowing? Last to hear about it? Prediction on the stock market collapse? Does any of this sound familiar? Has any of it happened so far in July 2002? Are there any indications any will in the near future?
Uptick in Disease
"Where we have mentioned increasing illness, from known germs and also those unexpected which are appearing in new environments, this is taking mankind by shock when it does occur. The fact that doctors are guessing most of the time when treating illness, and that this has been the case up until the present, is lost on the public as they have been lulled by the medical establishment into thinking a trip to the doctor will cure them. Honest doctors admit they are guessing most of the time, trying things, and any confident air is a falsehood to get the patients to pay up ahead of time. Now that new illnesses, or familiar illnesses in strange places, are occurring, the public is aghast, but this is in fact the status quo. During the year prior to the shift, this will be in the news increasingly, an up tick from the present situation."
My how we like to repeat ourselves. I think by now you should be able to see the pattern for yourselves.
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Where's the new stuff? Do the Zeta's consider us so thick that they need to repeat everything at least four or five times? Or is it simply that they are running out of ideas so are trying to pass the old stuff off as new? What do you think?
If we refer back, in hindsight, to 1999/2000/2001 and the first part of 2002 would you, in all honesty, agree that Nancy's predictions are accurate? Would you even consider her contributions as true predictions? (Just what marks out of ten would you give her?)
Finally we have this on June 15th 2002 from live IRC dated Jun 22, 2002
Fall, 2002
"Given the changes from February 2001 to January 2002, where the anxious public went from needing to go to an observatory to view, to getting their hands on infrared imaging equipment to image, what can the public expect going into Winter 2003? We described Planet X as dithering at the mid-point for most of its journey, and only barely moving from this point even in 2000. Some motion was apparent in that many contactees were aware they could view the inbound planet at observatories, in February 2001. Likewise, there was confidence in imaging in January 2002, where discussion of this in February 2001 was not strong.
We have stated that the planet increases speed exponentially, on approach. Thus, humans attempting to put numbers to our words, and ascertain distance, have created Charts. These are not our distance charts, but human charts. In fact, there are some key errors in these charts, as where the planet increases speed exponentially, it also has points where it slows. Thus, taking off from the mid-point, the dither point, is faster than the human chart anticipates. The approach, to the edge of the solar system, is thus faster than expected. But the Repulsion Force clicks in at the edge of the Solar System. Why would it not? What do you suppose is keeping those outer planets from floating into the Sun? Thus, the brakes come on about 7 weeks ahead of the shift, when it enters the outer solar system edges. It is going slower, when passing through the orbit of Saturn, edge to edge, than it was upon approach! Thus, a rapid increase in size and visibility as in brightness will occur during the Fall of 2002 and into the Winter months following.
To anticipate just when amateurs can with assurance see Planet X in the night sky, look at the image taken on January 19th in France. Compare the blur that is Planet X to neighboring stars. If, before dawn, in the hour and hours before dawn, you cannot see all these stars clearly, then you surely cannot see Planet X clearly. Attempts are being made to convince the American public that viewing can occurs as early as July, but this is a known falsehood. Those behind this disinformation, or should we say lack of information, are hoping a large hooting and name calling sessions prolongs the period when the elite will be safe from demands for information. ZetaTalk discredited, not by our words, but by the words of others assuring amateurs that they can see it in July, or August. Was it not last year at this time, that Charlene was ridiculed by David Tholen for trying to sight Planet X pre-dawn? His ridicule was for her, but lets now turn this on Open Minded, who is proposing the same thing! What is good for the goose, is good for the gander. Thus, we suggest that viewing in Fall, at the earliest, be the rule and rumor, not Summer viewing, which is quite impossible given the nature of the object, Planet X, and the red light spectrum it is viewed within."
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Not even a prediction, but rather a statement. Every astronomer knows when an object can be viewed from where and at what times of the year. All they need is a set of co-ordinates, which Nancy refuses to give until the fall. Why? As it makes no possible difference if they cannot, as she states, possibly see that area of space. Also note the name "Charlene" here used as a tool to support the Zeta's where in reality she was attacked by Nancy as a government lackey trying to debunk Zetatalk when she made an error in viewing and was subsequently witch hunted out of the the TT arena. (All recorded in the archives on TT-Watch.)
Footnote:
I guess the final reality will be evident in May 2003 when we'll either be struggling to survive the cataclysmic after effects of its arrival, perhaps listening to another tune full of excuses and delay's for a blatantly obvious missing planet or simply looking back in hindsight and considerable stupidity wondering what the hell it was all about? Either way makes no difference to me, but to anyone following this saga it's sure getting interesting as things now begin to escalate towards the concluding date.
Brian (Angel Isle)