The Skeptical Mind : ZetaTalk, The Grand Conspiracy 1995

Zeta Prophets 1999 - 2000

First appeared January 12th 1999 as a result of a sightings broadcast (Note the 12th Jan Real Audio file was inaccessible when I checked, so I couldn't confirm if any of this actually appeared on the show.)

ZetaTalk: During 2000

"Out predictions for the forthcoming year do not differ greatly from what we have stated in the past. This is the year when serious crop failures will start."

Oh wait a minute! Suddenly we've changed. Now the crop shortages are going to start in 2000. What about the 1995 prediction? Are they now saying they made a mistake? Dosen't say they did.

"As we stated in 1995, the weather confuses commercial crops, not just because of severe and intractable drought but because of the drought and deluge swings. Deluges can be devastating, as the recent reports coming out of a drowning Central America and their lost crops relay. Seeds are washed out of the ground, or rotted in the ground. Likewise, as we stated in 1995, very warm winter weather can confuse crops. They begin their growth cycle before they should and thus are frozen out when winter returns. And likewise there will increasing be very cold summers. This is a new angle - very cold summers. This has been relayed in the past, in ancient reports of what the Chinese called a world cycle, meaning the approach of another pole shift, where snow fell in summer. This type of weather change, which will shock the weathermen who are trying to explain events in terms of Global Warming, will begin."

Yea that's right in 1995 you were saying there would be crop shortages but none have yet appeared. So what's new? A Chinese history lesson. Why is it then that the common Chinese individual doesn't already know of the existence of a 12th planet and a pole shift? Could it be there's no proof?

"We have predicted there will in essence be a complete crop failure for the 3 years going into the Spring of 2003. This means the years of 2000, 2001, and 2002 will find such devastation to commercial crops that the stores set aside by the government for such disasters will be depleted greatly. These stores are intended to help those who have been ravaged by hurricanes or to rescue some country devastated by drought or locust swarms. Those types of rescues overseas are not being done anymore by the US, the doors quietly shut, so that it seems to the populace in the US that they are fine. They are not fine. Our advice continues to be to have family gardens and to rely on oneself. What other types of changes might be experienced this coming year?"

2000, 2001 and 2002? Devastating crop failures? Where? In hindsight there is no evidence supporting this prediction. Stores are still full and aid is still being sent to countries in need and yes by the USA as well. Ooops.... guess they got that one wrong.

"We mentioned a year ago that tornadoes would be experienced in areas that do not experience such tornadoes, and more devastating tornadoes would be experienced. This likewise unfolded this past year, and this trend will increase to the point where people will be just numbed by the size and fury of the tornadoes that will not only go through tornado alley in the US but also in other places in the world which simply don’t think in terms of needing to protect themselves from such swirling, forceful winds. This will continue to be couched in terms of Global Warming, but increasingly this explanation will be questioned. Why has there been such a rapid upswing? How can one account for a chemical change in the upper atmosphere that would do such a thing? Why is devastating cold sweeping down on places such as India if Global Warming is the explanation? Where is this coming from? Of course it is coming from volcanic upheaval under oceans that are causing the El Nino effect to continue, even though it is being downplayed, to the point where the air over the oceans is being dragged about and warmed and cooled."

So where are these tornadoes not experienced in certain areas? Come to think of it which areas have experienced tornadoes that haven't before? And where is the reported increase in this phenomenon? And volcanoes causing extreme cold in hot climates? I thought the 12th planet was heating up the Earth not cooling it down?

"We also predict, as we did last year, that there will be high tides. Not tsunamis, following earthquakes, but unusual high tides. We also predict that there will begin to be reports of whirlpools in the oceans that will startle those who have never seen such a thing in the oceans. Likewise, as we have predicted in the past, there will be increasing booms and flashes, which are caused by underwater earthquakes that cause heaving in the oceans such that the air over the dropping water claps. This can happen over land, also. We predict that this will increase to the point where this is discussed in the coffee rooms and bars of many cities, even though it doesn't get media coverage."

Hang on a minute. High tides after earthquakes? I thought earthquakes caused tsunamis due to the undulating motion prevalent when the plates grind together or slip away? And booms and flashes? Most of these have been reported overland, nowhere near water. So how can underwater earthquakes have caused them?

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Now compare that with what was predicted pre2000 on the original Zeta site of which I have my own personal copy from when I first discovered the site back in 1999. It is first referenced in Zetatalk archives index on 15th September 1998

http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t75.htm

During 2000 :

"Year 2000 is like the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain. A lot of noise, a lot of banging around and innuendo, with no punch behind it. Mankind has been told that changes will occur on the millennium, totally disrupting their lives. Trains won't run, the refrigerator will turn off, food will melt, planes falling from the sky, bank teller machines refusing to recognize cards. None of this is true. The average person is unaware of computer programs and how they are structured. If you were to talk about building chairs and tables and you described how the fourth leg was going to dissolve from under every table at the Year 2000, people would laugh. But if you describe a situation where computer programs are going to malfunction, they take it seriously, especially if they hear this from a number of sources and this is not disputed."

Y2K the event that never happened. Most people accept that the whole thing was created, for one means or another, but very few actually expected anything big to come out of it, apart from a good example of scare-mongering.

"Bureaucracies are infamous for being like a lumbering elephant, sluggish and unable to maneuver when changes come their way. They establish themselves with a set of circumstances, they write procedures that deal with these circumstances, and when change comes they make these procedures more complicated and cumbersome. All this works well when the sun rises and sets and crops are harvested and babies are born and old folks die, and life goes on much the same. The least concern of any bureaucracy is totally renovating itself - they resist change. Budgets are always slim, and the first thing that gets cut is any large computer system revamping as this is expensive which would mean that salary increases can't be made, one's brother-in-law can't be hired, and that benefits may need to be trimmed. This creates all manner of uproar so is put off. Now it can no longer be put off. If one does not think this is how bureaucrats think, they should just become a fly on the wall in the coffee rooms. Indeed, they know full well that by creating a crisis they will get an infusion of money that otherwise would have been taken from their salaries and benefits and additional jobs such as aids and secretaries, all the perks that they enjoy, would be cut. This is to some degree deliberately planned to create a crisis, because new moneys are made available then. View this with some cynicism, as it is justified in this situation."

Bureaucracy 101. Well the Zeta's sure do know how to throw a good party.

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Notice the difference between the two. How any current event topics have been updated to fit. Pre2000 and there are no definitives. She floats around with fancy examples never really giving anything away. Yet Post2000 the tone is slightly firmer, more confident, but there are still many contradictions. (Rising food prices? Crop shortages? Forced disbursal of goods? Increasing starvation? Economic impacts? None of which happened in 2000 and still haven't all the way into 2002.)

Secondly if one examines the information closely one can see that the Post2000 prediction is used to fill other subject text within Zetatalk.

Example from above: "................Since a common tactic to distract a restless populace is an outside threat, governments of many countries will sabre-rattle, pointing the finger elsewhere and making threats and demands. This will not lead to war, as none of these countries would gain by war, in that the whole world is affected by the economic and crop disasters. There is no prize. So the demands made, one country upon another, to correct what is seen as a cause elsewhere, will be loud, but not followed by actions other than those of a paper dragon variety - all noise, but no substance.........."

http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p117.htm

ZetaTalk: Threats of War

New ZetaTalk on Feb 15, 2000

"..............They do not mean to act on their threats, but there will be saber rattling, much noise, and other countries can be expected to follow suit...........Saber rattling on the part of the Bush administration.........War is not going to be profitable, for anyone, other than as a threat, so we suspect this is where the issue will remain."

ZetaTalk: Threats of War

New ZetaTalk during Mar 2, 2002 IRC Session

".........WW 3 will not occur, though there will be threats of this endlessly going into the shift..........that full scale war will not break out between countries, is that none have a thing to gain from this.......Countries use this to distract and quiet their populace when internal issues are distressing.............Thus, we predict that threats, and saber rattling will occur, but not war "

Repeat, repeat, repeat. Same words switched around, but nothing new.

Brian (Angel Isle)


	The Zeta Prophets 1999 -2000
	Zeta Prophets 1999 - 2000 First appeared January 12th 1999 as a result of a sightings broadcast (Note the 12th Jan Real Audio file was inaccessible when I checked, so I couldn't confirm if any of this actually appeared on the show.) ZetaTalk: During 2000 "Out predictions for the forthcoming year do not differ greatly from what we have stated in the past. This is the year when serious crop failures will start." Oh wait a minute! Suddenly we've changed. Now the crop shortages are going to start in 2000. What about the 1995 prediction? Are they now saying they made a mistake? Dosen't say they did. "As we stated in 1995, the weather confuses commercial crops, not just because of severe and intractable drought but because of the drought and deluge swings. Deluges can be devastating, as the recent reports coming out of a drowning Central America and their lost crops relay. Seeds are washed out of the ground, or rotted in the ground. Likewise, as we stated in 1995, very warm winter weather can confuse crops. They begin their growth cycle before they should and thus are frozen out when winter returns. And likewise there will increasing be very cold summers. This is a new angle - very cold summers. This has been relayed in the past, in ancient reports of what the Chinese called a world cycle, meaning the approach of another pole shift, where snow fell in summer. This type of weather change, which will shock the weathermen who are trying to explain events in terms of Global Warming, will begin." Yea that's right in 1995 you were saying there would be crop shortages but none have yet appeared. So what's new? A Chinese history lesson. Why is it then that the common Chinese individual doesn't already know of the existence of a 12th planet and a pole shift? Could it be there's no proof? "We have predicted there will in essence be a complete crop failure for the 3 years going into the Spring of 2003. This means the years of 2000, 2001, and 2002 will find such devastation to commercial crops that the stores set aside by the government for such disasters will be depleted greatly. These stores are intended to help those who have been ravaged by hurricanes or to rescue some country devastated by drought or locust swarms. Those types of rescues overseas are not being done anymore by the US, the doors quietly shut, so that it seems to the populace in the US that they are fine. They are not fine. Our advice continues to be to have family gardens and to rely on oneself. What other types of changes might be experienced this coming year?" 2000, 2001 and 2002? Devastating crop failures? Where? In hindsight there is no evidence supporting this prediction. Stores are still full and aid is still being sent to countries in need and yes by the USA as well. Ooops.... guess they got that one wrong. "We mentioned a year ago that tornadoes would be experienced in areas that do not experience such tornadoes, and more devastating tornadoes would be experienced. This likewise unfolded this past year, and this trend will increase to the point where people will be just numbed by the size and fury of the tornadoes that will not only go through tornado alley in the US but also in other places in the world which simply don’t think in terms of needing to protect themselves from such swirling, forceful winds. This will continue to be couched in terms of Global Warming, but increasingly this explanation will be questioned. Why has there been such a rapid upswing? How can one account for a chemical change in the upper atmosphere that would do such a thing? Why is devastating cold sweeping down on places such as India if Global Warming is the explanation? Where is this coming from? Of course it is coming from volcanic upheaval under oceans that are causing the El Nino effect to continue, even though it is being downplayed, to the point where the air over the oceans is being dragged about and warmed and cooled." So where are these tornadoes not experienced in certain areas? Come to think of it which areas have experienced tornadoes that haven't before? And where is the reported increase in this phenomenon? And volcanoes causing extreme cold in hot climates? I thought the 12th planet was heating up the Earth not cooling it down? "We also predict, as we did last year, that there will be high tides. Not tsunamis, following earthquakes, but unusual high tides. We also predict that there will begin to be reports of whirlpools in the oceans that will startle those who have never seen such a thing in the oceans. Likewise, as we have predicted in the past, there will be increasing booms and flashes, which are caused by underwater earthquakes that cause heaving in the oceans such that the air over the dropping water claps. This can happen over land, also. We predict that this will increase to the point where this is discussed in the coffee rooms and bars of many cities, even though it doesn't get media coverage." Hang on a minute. High tides after earthquakes? I thought earthquakes caused tsunamis due to the undulating motion prevalent when the plates grind together or slip away? And booms and flashes? Most of these have been reported overland, nowhere near water. So how can underwater earthquakes have caused them? All rights reserved: ZetaTalk@ZetaTalk.com Now compare that with what was predicted pre2000 on the original Zeta site of which I have my own personal copy from when I first discovered the site back in 1999. It is first referenced in Zetatalk archives index on 15th September 1998 http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t75.htm During 2000 : "Year 2000 is like the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain. A lot of noise, a lot of banging around and innuendo, with no punch behind it. Mankind has been told that changes will occur on the millennium, totally disrupting their lives. Trains won't run, the refrigerator will turn off, food will melt, planes falling from the sky, bank teller machines refusing to recognize cards. None of this is true. The average person is unaware of computer programs and how they are structured. If you were to talk about building chairs and tables and you described how the fourth leg was going to dissolve from under every table at the Year 2000, people would laugh. But if you describe a situation where computer programs are going to malfunction, they take it seriously, especially if they hear this from a number of sources and this is not disputed." Y2K the event that never happened. Most people accept that the whole thing was created, for one means or another, but very few actually expected anything big to come out of it, apart from a good example of scare-mongering. "Bureaucracies are infamous for being like a lumbering elephant, sluggish and unable to maneuver when changes come their way. They establish themselves with a set of circumstances, they write procedures that deal with these circumstances, and when change comes they make these procedures more complicated and cumbersome. All this works well when the sun rises and sets and crops are harvested and babies are born and old folks die, and life goes on much the same. The least concern of any bureaucracy is totally renovating itself - they resist change. Budgets are always slim, and the first thing that gets cut is any large computer system revamping as this is expensive which would mean that salary increases can't be made, one's brother-in-law can't be hired, and that benefits may need to be trimmed. This creates all manner of uproar so is put off. Now it can no longer be put off. If one does not think this is how bureaucrats think, they should just become a fly on the wall in the coffee rooms. Indeed, they know full well that by creating a crisis they will get an infusion of money that otherwise would have been taken from their salaries and benefits and additional jobs such as aids and secretaries, all the perks that they enjoy, would be cut. This is to some degree deliberately planned to create a crisis, because new moneys are made available then. View this with some cynicism, as it is justified in this situation." Bureaucracy 101. Well the Zeta's sure do know how to throw a good party. All rights reserved: ZetaTalk@ZetaTalk.com Notice the difference between the two. How any current event topics have been updated to fit. Pre2000 and there are no definitives. She floats around with fancy examples never really giving anything away. Yet Post2000 the tone is slightly firmer, more confident, but there are still many contradictions. (Rising food prices? Crop shortages? Forced disbursal of goods? Increasing starvation? Economic impacts? None of which happened in 2000 and still haven't all the way into 2002.) Secondly if one examines the information closely one can see that the Post2000 prediction is used to fill other subject text within Zetatalk. Example from above: "................Since a common tactic to distract a restless populace is an outside threat, governments of many countries will sabre-rattle, pointing the finger elsewhere and making threats and demands. This will not lead to war, as none of these countries would gain by war, in that the whole world is affected by the economic and crop disasters. There is no prize. So the demands made, one country upon another, to correct what is seen as a cause elsewhere, will be loud, but not followed by actions other than those of a paper dragon variety - all noise, but no substance.........." http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p117.htm ZetaTalk: Threats of War New ZetaTalk on Feb 15, 2000 "..............They do not mean to act on their threats, but there will be saber rattling, much noise, and other countries can be expected to follow suit...........Saber rattling on the part of the Bush administration.........War is not going to be profitable, for anyone, other than as a threat, so we suspect this is where the issue will remain." ZetaTalk: Threats of War New ZetaTalk during Mar 2, 2002 IRC Session ".........WW 3 will not occur, though there will be threats of this endlessly going into the shift..........that full scale war will not break out between countries, is that none have a thing to gain from this.......Countries use this to distract and quiet their populace when internal issues are distressing.............Thus, we predict that threats, and saber rattling will occur, but not war " Repeat, repeat, repeat. Same words switched around, but nothing new. Brian (Angel Isle)
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