13-Jul-97Note: it is a general Troubled Times policy to change the names of IRC participants to screen names and remove personal discussions that occurred during the chat in the interests of privacy.
NORSEMAN: Spot: do you still have that feeling of urgency?
SPOT: Yes, but not as bad.
SPOT: I watch the clouds allot
NORSEMAN: Spot: what do you mean? Did you guys read about the terrible weather in eastern Europe (floods etc.)
SPOT: I look to see if anything is out of place.
DEVATA: Looking for UFO´s?
SPOT: Like strange clouds, or aircraft.
NORSEMAN: That they show themselves to you, something like that? :)
SPOT: Yes, I go off by myself a lot.
NORSEMAN: A few years ago I saw a blue flash in the sky. Evening, no thunderstorms etc. Clear sky.
SPOT: I also stare at my maps sometimes, to see if I missed anything. That could have been Methane?
NORSEMAN: Spot: no it was not methane. It was a straight line. It suddenly appeared and it suddenly disappeared.
SPOT: When I was a kid, I saw this red light in the sky over the hill. It went straight up and disappeared.
DEVATA: I few years ago I saw a red cloud like craft just over the treetops were I live. It Rotated around it's own axis and was moving very slow. No sound and after a few minutes it disappeared. It was in the middle of the night and I was walking a friend home.
SPOT: Did your friend see?
DEVATA: Yep!
SPOT: I was with a friend also.
DEVATA: My friend is not really interested in anything unusual. :-/
SPOT: The problem I have lately is some things I do seem redundant.
DEVATA: Redundant, what do you mean?
SPOT: Redundant, as in why do this, I should be some where else, doing something for TT.
NORSEMAN: Redundant: looked it up in the dictionary, I think it means something as too much.
DEVATA: You are doing something for the TT!
NORSEMAN: Spot: you are doing good, that's one thing I know :)
SPOT: Yes, that's not what I mean. I mean, I should be doing more.
DEVATA: Everything has it's time, no need to go against the stream..
SPOT: Spend more time on TT, like I am in a hurry to get things done.
NORSEMAN: Okay. I understand that Spot
SPOT: I was watching a movie with my wife last night, and in the middle, I said, pick-up aquarium pumps at yard sales. My mind always wanders back to TT.
NORSEMAN: I think that most of the people on TT experience that. I think about it everyday.
SPOT: I think things like is Viola OK?
NORSEMAN: Spot: sometimes I have the same thoughts.
VIOLA: Have you guys concluded why we're all feeling urgency?
SPOT: Not yet.
VIOLA: I had a thought, that maybe the 12th will be discovered. That would do it!
SPOT: Can't some one in the southern hemisphere look for the 12th?
DURANDAL: My feeling are like the clock is ticking
NORSEMAN: Yes, that would do it. And people are noticing the weather changes. For example eastern Europe.
VIOLA: My sense of urgency translated into - get busy and formulate the Inc., make it formal. This could be taken several ways 1) that someone wants to use the Inc. to build something. 2) that I want all that paperwork out of the way before I get distracted, etc.
SPOT: Finally rained here in Alaska, now it is getting normal again.
DURANDAL: I have a sense of needing to move to more concrete solutions
VIOLA: Spot, wait until you wash away! Durandal: that matches MINE. Need to get specific, not just talk, as in providing an avenue for action, i.e. the Inc.
NORSEMAN: Viola: you mean as what happened in Eastern Europe? 1/3 of the country flooded.
SPOT: One of my urgencies is to build.
VIOLA: Spot says he's happy to get some rain where he lives, but just wait, it won't stop raining :-) Spot: build prototypes or what?
SPOT: Seams to be the trend with drought and rain. Yes, prototypes.
VIOLA: I have a sense to keep all the paperwork up to date, clean my queue so to speak.
NORSEMAN: Right, prototypes that's what we should think of, build etc.
VIOLA: I am updating TT up to the last submission, lately, not just one major topic area at a time.
SPOT: I bet when you are done, you look for more submissions?
VIOLA: Spot: with TT lately, the submissions are almost daily! So, Spot, is your sense of urgency to build for yourself personally, for a prototype site, or what?
SPOT: Prototype mostly, something for people to see.
VIOLA: Spot: That has been my urge for over a year, but lately it has lessened. I think more people are planning to do this, so my own personal efforts would not be so needed. I'm utterly thrilled with what is happening in the hydroponics TEAM area!
DURANDAL: Boy are they on top of it or what.
VIOLA: Many are experimenting. Well, one is but others are planning to. This is a shinning example of what TEAMs should be doing.
NORSEMAN: Making photo's of the prototype, scan them and put them on the web that's a good idea. I think .. :)
SPOT: I am going to take photos.
VIOLA: Norse: This type of thing, photos, etc., is what gets people moving. They say, if others can do it, so can I.
NORSEMAN: Right.
SPOT: The whole shed is still "too messy" yet for photos.
VIOLA: I'm waiting for a photo or two or three of a bike generator. People will see how common the components are, etc., and will get motivated to TRY.
DURANDAL: Viola have we looked at the topic of underground construction with any detail yet?
SPOT: Maybe I should take photos and show what can be done, even with an old shed?
VIOLA: Durandal: no one is planning to construct this as yet. We have folks saying they will get a container, for during the shift, etc., but no one has stated planning to go underground. In fact, such a shelter would be best on the plains, where the winds will rip everything away above ground. Kansas, for instance, has storm shelters into the side of a hill for tornadoes, all families do this.
DURANDAL: You're right as a method of protection and place to grow where you have some control over the environment
VIOLA: Durandal: I think there is a concern, at least in my mind, that something put into the ground, underground, could become a tome, buried alive.
SPOT: Will send a picture tonight (with my friend's help) of our shed.
VIOLA: If there were strong enough walls, like a buried container, then the quakes and earth movement would not crush it, could climb out the top. But just a trench, not strong walls, might CLOSE, squeeze the folks there in a pincer. Ouch!
DURANDAL: I am thinking more post pole shift after the shaking has stopped and the need to rebuilt food supplies.
NORSEMAN: Durandal: that's important.
SPOT: Help folks survive, and then help feed them.
DEVATA: Talking about time, I think that there is a need to deal with fear: Religion (TT ZT can be taken for religion)
VIOLA: It's very discouraging, deflating, and everyone wants proof, etc.
SPOT: I throw out leaders, to get reactions.
VIOLA: This is why this group is so important. We get strength from confirmation of our observations, etc.
SPOT: I use ..What if ..a lot
NORSEMAN: Devata; I agree, TT Inc. could be taken as some kind of new age group or a sect.
SPOT: IF it happens, we are prepared, if not we made friends and have the makings of one hell of a movie!
VIOLA: Devata: Those Cambridge conference write-ups would convince anyone that such things happen, and have regularly just a few thousand years ago! But got to get folks to READ them.
SPOT: What I tell folks.
SPOT: Gets their minds rolling.
VIOLA: Norseman: someone wrote to say that ZT had been mentioned by one of those ridiculous gossip rags, the Inquirer or Star or some such, and they called it a cult. Wanted to know my response, and I said "guess I've arrived, as they always talk about the famous, movie stars or politicians, etc., and tell lies"
SPOT: Yes, but we were noticed.
NORSEMAN: Viola: it happened to me, that they called me a sect member etc..
VIOLA: We should always assume many will deny and even be hostile as we are forcing them to look at things they don't want to see. Just part of the package. And then ignore all that noise and flack.
DURANDAL: I heard a definition - "a cult is the church next door"
SPOT: Could be true.
NORSEMAN: I told my cousin about that they want to disarm nuclear weapons by 2003 etc.. And he said something like that's to obvious. So I think that facts will do the job
VIOLA: You know, I just don't think we're going to continue having weather and quakes at the present level! Does that make sense? For sure, as the 12th approaches, things should pick up! Why the increase between 1985 and 1996 in deep quakes, for instance. Keeps increasing! And the weather has gotten increasingly violent and erratic from one year to the next. So .. the question is, what will it be next year, or the year after, etc.
SPOT: You know, we have not had a quake here for some time now, that's not good. Big one coming.
VIOLA: Folks will have to take notice, and global warming will NOT answer their concerns, as quakes don't come from global warming.
NORSEMAN: I think the next year will be worse then this year.
DEVATA: I see the TT Inc. as an organization that see the future in the same way as others. The only thing is that the minds behind the TT Inc. know that there are more then one future possibility!
VIOLA: Spot: you're on target there! When we have quakes, this means the plates can move, and when the quakes stop, then they are blocked and a break will occur.
SPOT: I think there may be a few "slips" in the crust as the 12th gets closer. Like "hello!!".
VIOLA: The pressure is building, many sense this, and will be released with earthquakes all over the world, same time, I think! Maybe this is the uneasy feeling we are all having, simultaneous quakes, volcanoes, worldwide, and a BIG eye opener to many.
DEVATA: Is the global changes going to worse than expected?
DURANDAL: You know one of the feeling of anxiety is based on what the Z's said 2 years ago is coming to light as stated. hence it has moved from conjecture to reality and having to deal with that
NORSEMAN: Viola: right.
SPOT: That's one reason to be ready to receive more input from folks AFTER we get a few more good shakes.
VIOLA: Devata: the pole shift will be as bad as described, but the tension in the crust as the 12th approaches, the core swirling more and more, should be incremental, does that not make sense?
VIOLA: I've been assuming that the weather and quakes will remain as this year, but if incremental, then several interesting things might occur.
SPOT: Does to me.
DEVATA: Well it does! And this could make me a bit nervous ... time, time ..
VIOLA: Spot: if we get newspaper coverage, or TV, then we could get REALLY busy!
NORSEMAN: Viola: and I think we will get newspaper coverage.
SPOT: The Zeta's asked if we were ready.
NORSEMAN: Two years ago I had a dream in which Larry King spoke about the 12th Planet etc.. (
VIOLA: I think California may become a rubble field, major cities so disrupted that business can't be conducted there anymore. I've been thinking that this will force me out of California if nothing else.
DEVATA: Those who I have talked to, shake their heads, when I tell them that aliens are involved ... giving the time 2003.
SPOT: Hmmm ... no more new rules and regulations.
VIOLA: Norse: I think the Larry King and Art Bell stage will come for sure, for us.
NORSEMAN: Agree
VIOLA: This is one reason to be very professional, and to have a structure in place to absorb a lot of worried people wanting to get busy.
SPOT: Give them something to look forward too.
VIOLA: I'm planning to spin a lot of them off into TEAMS. This is why it was so important to develop a structure like the TEAM structure, and work through the bugs.
SPOT: Most will be concerned with their locations, I think.
VIOLA: I did up the web pages for the Hydroponics TEAM even thought my rule was going to be that they had to do this themselves, as I wanted to set an example for others to follow, etc. See how it was done, should be done, could be done, etc.
VIOLA: Think about it! We could have TEAMS working on trench shelters, dome hydroponics, worm beds, windmills for the family, etc.
SPOT: You just didn't like my art :-))
DURANDAL: good point spot. I have found the safe locations to be one of the most important aspects of TT
SPOT: If a group picture is taken, the first person people look for is themselves.
VIOLA: Often purchasing something like a windmill assumes that the Tech Support folks will be there to assist. Post PS there will BE no Tech Support! So .. Spots approach, to state that in hydroponics he is only going to do what TT recommends, it a true test! A very good approach!
DURANDAL: Yea Viola and you will get overlapping which would help. the generator team works with windmill team etc.
SPOT: The first questions will be location questions.
VIOLA: Durandal: Safe Locations gets a lot of looking over. Folks say "what about MY location". It's the first thought that comes to their mind.
NORSEMAN: Spot: right, and the second question will be 'how to survive'
SPOT: We are building TT for even the "new Guy" to use. everything must be in there for him, to get him started.
VIOLA: Spot: I adored your art! Just could not modify it to put the tubes up, as John wanted, as your leaves turned all black. palette problems.
SPOT: :-))
VIOLA: Each TEAM that forms and has actual tests of these solutions will get inundated with questions. You'll have to have a FAQ per TEAM, and a contact to hold anxious hands, etc.
SPOT: New month, you're the pickee.
NORSEMAN: Viola: right, agree
SPOT: This will take a lot of time, are we ready to devote time?
VIOLA: Spot: you should see my e-mail! I'm the pickee all the time! 50% is hate mail, the other 50% love me.
SPOT: I can imagine.
NORSEMAN: Spot: I think we are ready. We sure are.
VIOLA: Spot: yes indeed we must have a solution set for the new guy, his eyes open only 3 months before the shift. There will be plenty of those! Actually, I think that the best approach is to have all supplies packed and safe from firestorms, etc., and build AFTER the shift.
SPOT: I was thinking about building a Computer room on wheels.
DURANDAL: Dodge those meteors, Spot
VIOLA: Any structures put up ahead of the shift will get torn to shreds by the winds and firestorms and quakes, so why DO that! Leave it packed in the boxes, tucked into a hillside closet, etc.
NORSEMAN: but what about the people who live in a country that will be flooded after the shift, those people have to survive to but can they manage that in 3 months..
DURANDAL: A portable solution Norseman.
VIOLA: Norseman: they must buy what they need, print off all the instructions on how to survive like eat bugs, etc., and move when the Earth is about to slow to a stop.
SPOT: We CAN'T help every one, we can only give them the opportunities to build.
DURANDAL: Tool, seeds, basics to rebuild.
VIOLA: Think about it! All will be homeless, so the late-comers no worse off except they won't have practiced, may not have the supplies, and will be dealing with more shock.
VIOLA: Those who practice hydroponics early, and have practiced, may be the ones to give seed to others. Very important to have these types of seed stocks all over the world.
SPOT: We should cover more on shock and how to treat it.
VIOLA: Spot: we will probably take our computers apart and pack each part separately into foam or some such, as put together the parts will smash each other, etc.
DURANDAL: yes Viola and good water purification techniques as well
VIOLA: Spot: the Health section deals with that, but planning ahead is not much use.
SPOT: Yes, we should.
VIOLA: It may be that MOST in a group are in shock, or angry and hostile, or depressed or have post traumatic shock syndrome. I'm so thankful for the areas where we have solid solutions already, like distilling water.
NORSEMAN: Viola: even those who are prepared.
VIOLA: Boiling water to get rid of germs, and distill if polluted with volcanic ash, etc. Sure-fire solutions. Norseman: it can happen that those who seem strongest fall apart the fastest when times get rough.
SPOT: Usually true, those who bark the loudest, do the least.
VIOLA: This happens in war, for instance, that the tough talking soldier or sergeant gets shell shocked and falls apart, deserts and runs, etc. One can't tell by the talk, only experience shows.
NORSEMAN: Spot: but we don't bark, right? :)
VIOLA: So .. each group must expect a lot of surprises, not be dependent, but think independently.
SPOT: We bite!!
SPOT: Most insecure folks bark a lot to make up for insecurities until tested.
VIOLA: Norse: well, this is not to say that truly strong people are completely silent! Its just that big talk does not necessarily translate into big action. Also, those in denial get louder and louder to try to drown out what they don't want to hear.
NORSEMAN: Viola: I know what you mean.
DURANDAL: That is so true Viola.
SPOT: Or they disappear.
VIOLA: Spot: absolutely true, insecure people put on a lot of fronts, to try to fool themselves as much as to fool others.
DURANDAL: or they try to control the situation and cover-up by placing blame everywhere but on them.
VIOLA: So .. to summarize .. we think that the feeling of urgency that many are feeling is due to worldwide uptick in the weather and quakes, perhaps the 12th Planet being located and talked about, and consequent news and TV coverage of our web site, etc., and then inundation by a lot of new folks. Right?
SPOT: Yes, called guilt and blame. Yes.
DURANDAL: Yes
NORSEMAN: Right
VIOLA: What is most important is to get a vehicle, like TT and the Inc., that can deal with the uptick.
NORSEMAN: Right
DURANDAL: I would put a mention of a sense of time running out as well
VIOLA: Last year it was talk and think about solutions, are we right, looking at the evidence, etc. This year it is putting into place a structure that will support growth.
SPOT: Yes, there's that time thing again.
VIOLA: I think we're doing a good job of that, and are ahead of the curve as they say.
NORSEMAN: Right.
VIOLA: When thinking of the time left, there are several aspects: 1) reaching out to many folks, in many countries.
SPOT: When the Zeta's said "or are you just toying with the idea?" made me think.
VIOLA: 2) filling the gaps in our solutions sets - like how to replace broken light bulbs, etc.
NORSEMAN: And the worm beds. We don't have a worm team yet .. right?
VIOLA: 3) having prototype sites by volunteers who find and report the problems in time for them to get resolved, etc. Debug the solutions sets. 4) and I think the year or so before, there will be survival communities trying to establish themselves too, a whole other issue.
SPOT: Worm beds and hydroponics in same place, or building.
VIOLA: My focus, my mission, is to identify solution sets and debug them through use, get that published where all can get the info.
SPOT: Yes
VIOLA: My focus is not on gathering survival groups, though I know that others have a different mission in that regard. Some want to do that.
NORSEMAN: Spot: that's a good idea, but to start a hydroponics prototype someone needs space to start one, right?
SPOT: This will happen on its own.
VIOLA: Norse: worm beds for sure! LongBow did experiments on that years ago. Made and ate worm cookies!
SPOT: Yuk! but ...
NORSEMAN: Viola: I mention it because of the recall I once had about eating bugs roasted above a fire.
VIOLA: Norseman: what the hydroponics TEAM is doing is in-home experimentation. Can even water the plants daily or many times a day with a pail!
SPOT: Yes to space, reason to build prototype.
NORSEMAN: Viola: okay..
VIOLA: Can create the nutrient solution perhaps from ashes and sewage effluent, thought this is a big IF as we've not determined this yet, much less tried it!
DURANDAL: I've had chocolate covered ants before and they are good!!!
VIOLA: I do know that fish tanks can live in sewage effluent, fish eat the algae grown in the sewage effluent, and this has been around for a long time!
SPOT: Worms and nutrients may go together?
VIOLA: Some sunlight required, or light substitute. Durandal, what did they taste like, other than chocolate?
SPOT: Chocolate chicken!
VIOLA: Spot: worms are another excellent solution, as they are 82% protein and live in garbage or dirt. No sunlight required!
DURANDAL: Hey Viola next time you are in San Francisco go to Ghirardilli and take a picture of their Stone Mill. They use a very old mill technique
VIOLA: Spot: oh, no, not another "it tastes like chicken!"
DURANDAL: Oh the ants did not really taste. It was like chocolate with nuts, very crunchy.
SPOT: Worm byproducts can be use for nutrients for hydro solutions.
VIOLA: Durandal: to make their chocolate? I've been there, but only to get a sundae.
DURANDAL: Yes go inside and they use 3 levels of stone to grind the chocolate.
NORSEMAN: Can people make there own chocolate?
DURANDAL: Would be good for wheat or oats as well.
SPOT: Silly question, but how is chocolate made?
VIOLA: Spot!!! You've just struck a solution! In fact, vital Earth states that worm pee is an excellent fertilizer. He has the worm beds up, and drains the pee at the bottom, says this is the best fertilizer!
VIOLA: Maybe this can be used for hydroponics!
SPOT: Yes!!
VIOLA: Now, the big thing with hydroponics is that mold or fungus should not be there, thus the gravel or sand or stones are sterilized before a bed it set. If we use worm pee or sewage effluent, then this goes all to heck. Spot: similar to coffee, with the cocoa bean, I believe. Forget chocolate in the Aftertime, and coffee too!
SPOT: Boil the pee?
VIOLA: Spot: YES! You're so resourceful!
SPOT: Coffee ... God no ... never forget, might not get any, but will never forget.
VIOLA: It may have nutrients like nitrogen as well as potassium or whatever else is needed. We MUST try this! Candidate for the Idea list, for sure.
SPOT: I will make a corner for worms and their pee!
VIOLA: I wonder if cooking worm pee or sewage effluent will get rid of the smell?
SPOT: Probably not.
VIOLA: Bad job in the survival group - pee boiler (phew!)
NORSEMAN: Someone should try it out.
SPOT: Here son ... I may have to order worms for this.
VIOLA: Spot: how to make the kids leave home WAY early :-)
SPOT: I knew I would figure that out!
VIOLA: Spot: do you not have earthworms where you live? They are all over the place in the midwest.
DURANDAL: Don't forget worm shit is good for soil too. We add red wigglers to our plants and they grow like crazy.
SPOT: Who would like to be a worm shipper?
VIOLA: There was a clear correlation with those folks who felt a feeling of urgency and the Inc. I have to think there is a relationship, that the Inc. needs to get into place, etc.
SPOT: Very small worms because of perma-frost and ice.
NORSEMAN: Spot: maybe I will look for them. Different climate where I live.
VIOLA: Worms put air into soil, which plants need, they need to breath. The worms make tunnels, etc., turn the soil.
SPOT: Nothing "bite-size"!
NORSEMAN: Larger worms, I guess.
SPOT: The old "night crawlers" would be best
VIOLA: In TT, it used to be, a year ago, that the Book List looked pathetic, only a dozen books or so. Also, each major topic had only a half-dozen pages. Now, its gotten huge! All the major topics look good, look fleshed out. What a difference a year makes!
SPOT: My friend brought over some books he bought for us to use as a library for after PS. To occupy the mind.
VIOLA: Books will be very appreciated in the Aftertime, as no TV, etc. Where do you suppose we will be a year from now? I expect there will be many many prototype sites operating with one or more solutions, such as fish tank here, windmill there, worm bed here, hydroponics shed there, etc.
SPOT: Twice the size, very busy with prototypes.
DURANDAL: Moving towards a prototype location. more implementation and debugging.
VIOLA: I expect the weather and quakes will have a lot of talk stated, and we will have gotten media coverage to some degree.
SPOT: Media will start on local levels.
NORSEMAN: Viola: as with the dream I e-mailed you about
DURANDAL: I was reading Whitley Striber's Secret School. I hope his prognostication does not come true
VIOLA: I think one of the things we must guard against is not giving in to folks wanting to create just a safe place for themselves.
DURANDAL: he's seen Washington getting nuked and economies fall worldwide
VIOLA: We had this problem in TT early on, that all wanted to talk about meeting someplace, spending time on a survival site for the group.
NORSEMAN: Durandal: did you read about what he wrote about the past, that he saw an object coming closer to the earth.
SPOT: Yes. But first that will get them thinking.
VIOLA: All talk of generating solution sets would stop! The TT group needs to focus on solutions sets for ALL people, and fine tuning these. NOT organizing camps.
DURANDAL: Yes, very interesting.
VIOLA: Someone else can organize camps. This is too much of a distraction from the job at hand.
SPOT: No camps+cult.
VIOLA: Norseman: did he really! Strieber saw an object coming closer? Humm ..
NORSEMAN: Spot: right, perhaps some of us will meet. But this is not the issue.
SPOT: I think survival sites and camps are different things.
NORSEMAN: Viola: he wrote it about the past, what happened
VIOLA: Spot: right! Cults take folks out of the mainstream, where they are open to info, but we espouse that they think for themselves, be independent, and NOT live with us, etc. If we're a cult, then CNN is a cult.
DURANDAL: Yes his vision was in fast motion but a large glowing object. He saw the sky crossed by the planet. He felt it hits the earth.
VIOLA: Most certainly, if we are a cult, then the churches are a cult.
NORSEMAN: Durandal: did he feel that?
SPOT: We are not a cult. To make that statement.
VIOLA: I had someone e-mail me and say that a second person, a channeler, has said 2003 too, but would not give me the name.
DURANDAL: Yes but even he was not that sure. Just that it was large glowed and moved fast
SPOT: I think it will be seen this winter. The 12th. By the average person.
VIOLA: Many people will think that the danger is that the 12th will hit. In fact, it will not, but our scientists don't espouse a repulsion force, which the Zetas argued on sci.astro exist. Everyone poo-poo'd that. So .. the Star Wars thing, where we are supposed to be able to shoot it out of the sky as it approaches, may get some advocates. They're silly, as in no way will they be able to do that!
SPOT: The scientists did not "discover" repulsion. That is why they won't account for it.
VIOLA: Spot: Yup, that would do it all right! If the 12th can be seen by the average person, no telescope needed, then we'll get busy!
NORSEMAN: Viola: right
VIOLA: Spot: they contradict themselves and refuse to put their contradictions together. I tried about 100 times to force them to do so. They just give back insults.
SPOT: I also believe that a major discovery will be made about repulsion because it must be their idea.
DURANDAL: Didn't the Z's say it would be very pronounced in the sky 1 year 7 months before it arrives?
VIOLA: Maybe so. If someone wants to stop panic, then this will be announced. The Zetas told them how to do an experiment to prove this to themselves.
NORSEMAN: Durandal: but it's already visible.
SPOT: Very pronounced yes, but should be able to see it with telescope and such.
VIOLA: Durandal: yes, but since it will move between now and then, once it is located and folks are tracking it, they KNOW it is not a distant star, etc.
SPOT: Like ... Oh crap!! This is real, where did I put that web page address?
VIOLA: Another thing I think could be done right now is worm and bug recipes. There are web sites with these, but a daily diet of this, what are the problems. For instance, does one get chronic diarrhea or something.
SPOT: We must remember that it must be able to be done by the average man, so to speak.
VIOLA: If a chemist did an analysis on the nutrition in such a diet, this would also be a good grant proposal. Special equipment required for this, etc.
NORSEMAN: Viola: right
