Session Start: Sat Apr 13 15:39:53 2002
-IQx- Welcome to ZetaTalk -
http://www.zetatalk.com - Enjoy Your Stay
(NancyL) Just sent the agenda
(short one) to Gerard and Jurian.
(S7L) Though Nancy's early. I mean, we
ought to be still 1 hour 30 minutes from the session, right?
(IQx) S7L: hmm,
clocks were set an hour later a few days ago
(S7L) UTC time has no daylight
savings and sessions were to start UTC 22:00.
(Butch) Has daylight savings
time here in the states been taken into consideration?
(NancyL) No, I just
show up early in case there is any problem with connecting, gives me time to
struggle with it, etc.
(NancyL) And then I can chat a bit, without being "on
stage"
(NancyL) OH! I'm an HOUR early! It's not even 17:00 UTC?
(S7L)
NancyL: it is 20:40 UTC
(NancyL) We have a light agenda. Let me ask, what are
the burning questions out there?
(IQx) NancyL: well, if possible, can you
tell us (3 of us here) more a bit about safe location of New York State ? you
told so little, a few sentences - Thanks
(S7L) I guess you will get magnitude
questions. The sci.astro crowd seems to press you hard for it.
(IQx) NancyL:
I asked that question a few sessions ago, but didn't get a response, would
really appreciate one now.
(S7L) Magnitude is by the way an absolute figure.
It doesn't depend on location nor viewing conditions.
(NancyL) BRB, taking
the chicken out of the oven. It will be ready when the chat STARTS!
(NancyL)
I'm looking up what was already said about NY.
(NancyL) Magnitude is NOT
absolute, there are several ways of describing it.
(ChiefSimi) For us in
Hungary, there was en election, and the STS gained power. We suspect, a
cheating, there are some proofs also, we are very curious what the Zetas say
about that.
(S7L) NancyL: you are right that there are several different
magnitudes.
(NancyL) Heiocentric, within the solar system, there are two
other methods, one 10 parsecs away, the other some other one.
(Torbj) Are you
talking new earthquakes?
(S7L) However my point was it doesn't depend on your
place on Earth, nor the viewing conditions. A magnitude 16 star will still be 16
star even if veiled by clouds.
(NancyL) Bottom line, there are several ways
of "defining" or "qualifying" magnitude.
(WigglyWorm) Just like the good ol'
USA eh ChiefSimi
(S7L) It only is a specific statement about brightness
measured in some fashion.
(NancyL) And then, what equipment is set for (star
light intensity) or the eye perceives are different altogether.
(S7L) And
it's been made to eliminate this kind of things such as "how long did you
photograph" "with what equipment" "where" etc.
(Degradii) NancyL just 1
question... is it true that the earth is hollow.. I mean that it's full with
tunnels and caves
(NancyL) S7L but what you GET depends on all that, so the
sci.astro crowd spits hairs on every excuse.
(S7L) NancyL: that's one part I
don't understand. How do you mean different when telescope is used for star
brightness and when for .. eye?
(S7L) NancyL: it's true but it still doesn't
change the _magnitude_. And people asked you for that.
(NancyL) Degradii,
that's so silly as to be exempt from even a "declined question". Let me ask YOU,
where does the lava come from?
(S7L) You replied with queries like "where"
"how high" "with what equipment" which are irrelevant to the
magnitude.
(Degradii) NancyL I didnt mean that.
(S7L) Degradii: hollow
Earth means that the Earth's interior is completely hollow, I
understand.
(WigglyWorm) Nancy: the Men in Black seems to be the least
feasible part of zetatalk. How would they know the Awakening is happening or
which contactee saw a UFO? How do they get cars if they have few
resources.
(Degradii) NancyL I was talking about net of tunnels and caves
(S7L) WigglyWorm: "how do they get cars"?
(NancyL) Who asked about NY? I
don't want to get TOO detailed else the Safe Locations doc gets too large and
all.
(S7L) Can you clarify?
(S7L) NancyL: IQx did.
(NancyL) Here's what
we have about NY now: state.
(NancyL) Being positioned close to the New
England states, which will experience a bounce up as the St. Lawrence Seaway
rips further apart, just prior to the shift, New York State will be relatively
safe from flooding from the Seaway. As with Canada on the opposite side of the
Seaway, the release of tension when the Atlantic and the Seaway rip will allow
bordering land, light in nature, to lift. Flooding will come in from the coast,
where the usual warnings about tidal waves are in effect. Stay inland at least
100 miles, be 200 feet above sea level, and consider tidal core or flooding of
local rivers overwhelmed by torrential downpours or sloshing of local
lakes.
(NancyL) And I'll go get NY city now.
(NancyL) Heavily populated
areas have several drawbacks during times of crisis such as the coming
cataclysms will bring. However well prepared a given family may be, they are
never prepared for what their neighbors will bring to them. New York City is one
of the most heavily populated areas, and by being a coastal city, has additional
strikes against it. Thought the Atlantic will recede at first during the pole
shift, due to the Atlantic widening and the waters having in general flowed
toward the poles when the Earth's rotation stops, wave action and reaction will
find all shorelines bombarded with sloshing water at some point. For many, on
islands along the coast supported by a system of bridges that have been torn
apart, they will have no escape. Tall buildings will bash into each other during
the seemingly endless earthquakes, which they were scarcely designed to
withstand. Fires and the howls of the injured and desperate make travel through
such a devastated area literally life threatening. Those who stay in New York
City during the coming cataclysms are either ignorant of what is about to occur,
courageous, or harboring a death wish!
(WigglyWorm) s7l: The Men in Black
have been seen driving large black cars.
(IQx) NancyL: thank you, although
I've read that =)
(NancyL) Now, what is missing? You can read about Montreal,
western PA, etc and points south and north of NY state, and this also puts
things into perspective.
(IQx) NancyL: NYC is a never good safe place for
most - can you expand a bit about NY state? through ZT if possible
(Gerard)
Wigglyworm: that are not the MIB... if a guy weares a black suit and drives in a
black car does that make him a MIB? I doubt so.
(IQx) WigglyWorm: search
ZetaTalk site on MIB, they are a bit different from what you expect
(S7L)
WigglyWorm: oh really
(NancyL) IQx, here's western PA.
(NancyL) The
mountainous regions in western Pennsylvania, where now considered an area
difficult to farm and with industries tied to coal mining in the past, will
prove to be a safe place not only during the shift itself but during the
Aftertime. Ocean access will be provided by the St. Lawrence Seaway, which will
widen to the extent of becoming an inlet bay to the Atlantic. The climate
likewise will improve somewhat for western Pennsylvania, after the shift.
(IQx) NancyL: dont paste it, I referenced that also - thank you
although
(WigglyWorm) the MiB look like the alien hominoids from the game Out
of This World if anyone remembers.
(Cool007) NancyL: in fact the earthquakes
in Bulgaria become more frequent
(NancyL) And then ZT goes on to say that NY
City and DC will move west into these areas, unpleasant and unwanted STS type
folks.
(IQx) NancyL: I wont bother you then, perhaps if you are not busy at a
later time, you can email me the a few more about NY state through ZT
(S7L) I
have studied Earthquake statistics a little for the last 40 years. It seems that
while 2001 was a very vigorous year, so was 1963. Similar in numbers;
earthquakes appear to come in cycles.
(S7L) 2002 has been pretty quiet. The
energy expenditure on average is -70% for quakes that have made it to my survey,
which is all quakes world-wide above 6.0 magnitude
(NancyL) IQx, I get
drilling down into more and more detail requests from folks, and am trying to
establish guidelines.
(Torbj) We had one quit large here in Sweden to acouple
a days ago...3.3 on the Richter scale...
(Malakai) What about phoenix
Arizona? Will it see water from tidal waves? The grand canyon and the whole
region must have been under water at one time.
(Matt) Anymore radio shows on
the horizon Nancy?
(S7L) So, while in 2001 we had a few really strong quakes,
it seems 2002 is back to some 1990 level or such
(IQx) NancyL: accept my
apologies then, would you mind going into detail if I gather a group of at least
10-20 people?
(NancyL) For instance, if I say this town will be flooded, I
get a question what about a town a mile away, same elevation.
(NancyL)
Obviously, the answer is the SAME.
(IQx) NancyL: hehe, alright, the point is
understood
(NancyL) New England is going to elevate, land along the St.
Lawrence will jerk around but bounce UP, and western NY state is high enough not
to get flood tide, etc.
(NancyL) What else do you want to know? Aftertime
latitude can be established from the New Geo map.
(IQx) NancyL: indeed, it
also seems to be that NY will be in a bit colder position once the plates
shift
(NancyL) I'm actually asking you to help me establish guidelines, IQx,
as you're not a selfish person.
(IQx) NancyL: New Geo map ?
(NancyL) What
have we NOT provided you with?
(IQx) NancyL: I'll try =)
(NancyL) Matt, no
new radio shows planned.
(Matt) Thanks Nancy
(NancyL) IQx, no, no groups
of folks, as if I set a precedence than I will get 10,000 such
requests!
(IQx) NancyL: hehe, maybe Zetas should come up with more contactees
who can help you out
(NancyL) Safe Locations is a service but the Zetas and I
want to cover the globe, but not give folks in one town 99% of the time, for
instance.
(NancyL) Look to Africa, or South America, hardly a
question.
(IQx) NancyL: yes, absolutely
(NancyL) Canada and US especially,
overworked already!
(Matt) New Zealand?
(IQx) NancyL: don't overpressure
yourself, for now you're doing great
(Gerard) One becomes a contactee by him
or herself ... it's not that the Zetas look for them an so ..
(Cool007)
Middle Bulgaria
(Gerard) One can even be a contactee without knowing he/she
is
(NancyL) IQx in the Pole Shift section,
http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p10.htm
(NancyL) IQx, group documents don't
work well, and ZetaTalk via telepathy is unique, and working well.
(Lebrasse) Is there an agenda today or open-house?
(IQx) NancyL: oh yes,
I made an enlarged version of that map, just a temporary for printing out at
http://iqx.t35.com/temp.jpg
(NancyL) I want to know, seriously, WHAT is not
addressed that is a burning question? This hill or that hill less likely to be
windy, or flooded, or whatever?
(IQx) Lebrasse: the session is one hour
away
(NancyL) Folks should get an elevation map, study their local geography,
and make some decisions for themselves, my thinking.
(Torbj) You can allso be
a "walk in"
(Gerard) Or a starchild
(NancyL) Lebrasse, we have a light
agenda, so I'm fishing here.
(Torbj) Or a "wanderer"
(Malakai) Nancy..
Phoenix Arizona? At 1000 ft will it see flooding
(Zetapal) you'd have to
define contactee - we've all probably been contacted in one form or another by
"the visitors", both STS and STO. And, I guess giving "the call' is a form of
asking for contact
(NancyL) Phoenix, I'm checking what has been said,
etc.
(Spanky) Might as well answer the Men in Black question I
had.
(KyleKushman) I'm a virgin zetatalk chat so I just wanted to say hello
to all and thanx for the knowledge Nancy and Zetas
(Lebrasse) Nancy, one
thing that has been puzzling me is why all the posturing by Israel/US? Why
invade Iraq when the PS is just months away?
(Spanky)
Distraction.
(Zetapal) Welcome Kyle
(Thunderoc) Perhaps some ideas into a
food/energy bar..with all known coloidial minerals and vitamins...a survival
food bar?
(NancyL) Did you read about Phoenix in Safe Locations TOPIC?
http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm?
(NancyL) No flooding. here's a
quote:
(NancyL) Residents in cities in the middle of deserts are lulled into
thinking that life there is possible even without such support. Being on stable
ground, Phoenix will in the main be standing after the shift, outside of the
damage done by hurricane force winds and the possibility of volcanic dust
dumping or firestorms dropping from the skies. Those who plan on surviving must
think about what they will do after they survive, else they will not long
survive. The dazed populace will lean heavily on any farms nearby, which will
find themselves stripped of any edibles so that sustained agriculture is not
possible. Phoenix, like most cities with high numbers of survivors, will find
the human survivors like a plague of locusts, consuming everything in sight.
(Gerard) Zetapal: it is, the call can also be used for asking for contact..
Like what can I do to help, what can I do for the transformation that can be a
question for contact in fact
(NancyL) So the water will not come in from the
Gulf or Pacific, no, just afterwards, everyone starves.
(KyleKushman) I'm in
NY, we just set our clocks ahead 1 hour is the chat now or in an
hour.
(Karen) My question is what was Bush doing going on TV and asking
everyone to give 4,000 hours of service to country.... Is he trying to keep
everyone busy?
(NancyL) Lebrasse, invade Iraq as a distraction.
(S7L)
KyleKushman: it will be after 1 hour.
(Malakai) Yes Nancy.. just seems that
the low valley including higher elevations like grand canyon and Lake Powel seem
to be under water at one time long ago
(S7L) The ZT has always been scheduled
on UTC 22:00 time which sees no daylight savings.
(NancyL) Bush also wants
his excuses why he needs to muster the military and hide govmt in bunkers, etc.
(NancyL) Kyle, it's in an hour, many (including me) are early and just
chatting until ...
(Gerard) Then of course a starchild is a vistor
him/herself, not a contactee in fact.. contact works different for those who are
starchildren.
(S7L) If people researched this topic, they could derive it
reliably for themselves every time.
(Spanky) Nancy: is Bush really that
dumb/confused or is it all an act and he is a machiavellian schemer like his
father?
(NancyL) Karen, excellen Q about civilian service and I'm adding it
to the agenda.
(S7L) NancyL: I have been pondering lately what happens when
person falls asleep. Does the soul leave the body for something more
interesting?
(NancyL) Malakai, at one time, the globe was a water planet,
then got knocked into present orbit and lost most of its water.
(NancyL)
Thus, even on top of Everest, there are sea shells in the rock.
(Lebrasse)
Have you identified your other Shoe yet Nancy, was it the invasion of the West
Bank?
(Thunderoc) There was a meteorite show on last week... which showed the
'rock' coming from a star placement VERY similar to the three stars shown on the
website... I taped it, yet to peruse it for close comparson..perhaps the new MJ
wants this out?
(Zetapal) You got it Karen... the number one goal of those in
control is to avoid a public panic and keep everybody showing up for work monday
morning to keep the profit machine tricking funds up and as an endorsement of
their authority/endorsing the system they run.
(Malakai) Yup..thanks.. they
found remains of shark in grand canyon
(Cool007) Ima li bulgari tuk?
(An)
Just looked this up for you all... TopoZone is useful for topograpic maps at
http://topozone.com/findplace.asp
(NancyL) Spanky, a related question re
George W, who is a PUPPET, and his father a prime example of STS.
(Zetapal)
Keep em busy and scared.
(NancyL) Drugs into the country because of the
senior Bush, who was a CIA man back then, head man.
(NancyL) Spanky, will add
it to the Agenda, Bush family legacy or some such.
(Malakai) Nancy, how long
has bush and elite world power mongers known of planet X ?
(Thunderoc) Zapata
oil.. yes Nancy..
(JoeyB) Nancy: Is it correct that during last 7 weeks PX
will zoom from a dim red star to about the size of the moon?
(NancyL) S7L,
the soul is not encouraged to go OOB, even in sleep, no.
(S7L) NancyL:
okay.
(NancyL) Lebrasse, it is not West Bank, and I'm having a sense of a few
possibilities, yes.
(NancyL) Two, but not ready to announce them yet, until
they happen.
(Spanky) Dreams are like a screensaver or video game within the
brain to keep the soul occupied.
(NancyL) Have to do with PX leaks and media
revelations and ZT in the news, etc.
(Torbj) Hehe... the pope dying?
(S7L)
I have read some suggestions about the soul doing some travelling during the
night, and it seems like it could make some sense from my viewpoint.
(Karen)
I pondered whether the Bush announcement was part of Nancy's "other shoe"
falling
(NancyL) Malakai, since shortly after Roswell, when the Z's told
them. 1983 they confirmed it for themselves, so 1983 is the SOLID
date.
(SteveH) I think TLC has a doomsday comet show on at 3pm PST
(Karen)
Pumping up public for service to gov't
(Spanky) Nancy, have the zetans flown
you up close to the 12th so you could take a look?
(Thunderoc) Thats the show
I saw Steve...
(NancyL) JoeyB, that's pretty close, yes, it will be VISIBLE
as a redish thing in the sky, without aid of scopes, and at passage be as big as
the Moon, overall.
(SteveH) Was it any good Thuneroc?
(S7L) Thunderoc:
they don't.
(NancyL) S7L, OOB is highly discouraged by Sprit Guides, who
prevent skipping out of school, etc.
(JoeyB) It's sad that many will deny
even with a sight like that!
(S7L) But how you relate to your thoughts
decides what will happen.
(Thunderoc) Thats the one that shows the rock
originating... from a star placement... like the one shown for PX
(NancyL)
Karen, no, I expect just more of his trying to line up citizen slaves.
(S7L)
NancyL: I thought it could be standard part of the program. But yes, I see the
point I guess. I shall do some potential research on this.
(NancyL) Find out
who the willing STO workers are, so he can use them later.
(NancyL) I see he
also is trying to get the churches into leadership positions.
(Zetapal) S7L
its my understanding that its possible to have an out-of-body experience while
sleeping/and if you're like me you've found yourself being courteously shuffled
back to your body after a couple of minutes-cool experience I must say - my
escorts where surprised when I recognized them and seemed relieved when I didn't
freak out on them, course I could have just imagined it all/ wink
(S7L)
Zetapal: Mm yes.
(NancyL) And get unmarried mothers married, so husbands HAVE
to be (he hopes) responsible for the mothers when he and his elite close the
doors on them.
(Malakai) Nancy, as Sitchin claims Sumerians knew of niburu
6000 years ago.. why wasn't this info passed down among secret societies like
illumanati etc?
(JoeyB) The current church scandals can't be helping much in
that regard.
(Thunderoc) I think it was Maakai
(Spanky) as a second part
of my question: why is Dick Cheney chosen to lead? Is it because of his heart
condition, that they need someone with nothing to lose? Is it because they could
eliminate him with no questioning at all (artificially induced heart
attack)
(NancyL) Malakai, I think the info was primarily in the giant
hominoids hands, and THEY did not care for humans to be educated.
(NancyL)
Also, Chinese knew things Europe did not, etc. so all the globe did not share,
did not even know about each other!
(Torbj) Almost everytime you are waking
uo after a sleep with a big "spasm" you been out flying..
(Thunderoc) OOB's
are so real... you can even feel texture..:o)
(NancyL) Spanky, have added
this to the Agenda, as Bush cohorts, etc.
(Thunderoc) Or imagine you can..
lol
(S7L) I remember some persistent dreams from at least a decade ago when I
could distinctly remember I could fly and how wonderful it was. I remember I
almost cried because it wasn't true. But it seems like it might just have been
true...
(Gerard) any idea about the situation in the European countries
before the shift occurs. Like those beloning to the EU?
(NancyL) Gerard, what
do you mean "situation"?
(Bulgaria) The earthquakes in Bulgaria become more
frequent
(Malakai) I see.. I just feel that families like Bush, Morgans,
Rockefellars, Rothchilds would have know this info the whole time.. for
centuries.. and yes of course keep it to themselves
(NancyL) Quakes are going
to increase right up to the time of the shift. I guess that means more frequent,
and larger ones in the mix.
(S7L) Though quaking in 2002 has been modest
according to the USGS
(NancyL) Malakai, you assume that Europe and Summeria
were talking, etc. Don't think they were.
(Lebrasse) After 911, zetas said
to watch JP Morgan but they're still there doing business, was 911 a failure by
Barclays?
(Matt) Last 7 weeks surely will be the real uptick as PX enters
system?
(NancyL) And then, each PS disrupts records and all, and then the
REASON for the disruption is not known, except through folklore.
(Spanky)
Illuminati type organizations are probably descended from 12th planet hominoid
groups that decided to stay behind.
(Matt) Still near dither
point.
(Gerard) Reactions etc... Different laws, other goverment(s) as in the
USA. That's what I mean.
(Zetapal) Malakai also remember we're talking about
a 90% attrition rate and scaterring populous with a 3657yr span - kind of hard
keeping up with old secret society brothers...
(NancyL) S7L USGS is lying,
downgrading quakes BIG time, as a TT member found out and I put into the Quake
Patterns TOPIC in Word.
(Malakai) JP Morgan was so exposed to the markets a
crash helped their derivatives position.. They may have had a hand in
it
(Torbj) S7L...are you living in the nothern parts of
Finland?
(Thunderoc) or STS agenda's/Illuminati
(Gerard) Spank: I doubt so
... there are no Niburians anymore on this planet.
(S7L) NancyL: I have
observed this page. I do not believe Mike completely understood the situation.
The numbers are in the main revised down a bit from the initial estimations --
or some are revised upwards. The intial magnitude is just a guess.
(Torbj) In
the nothern part of Sweden there was a 3.3 qqake for two days ago
(Malakai)
They were short the markets.
(NancyL) Spanky, no, Illuminati power is
exagerated, per the Z's, they are not special and the eye thing only used as an
STS scare tactic like Stonehenge.
(S7L) More detailed information comes later
and is an international effort
(S7L) Torbj: no
(Sirgrim) The recent news
about a possible pole reversal is interesting, they're just seeing
pre-warnings
(S7L) And in general there is an agreement within 0.2 .. 0.3
magnitude points between intial estimate and the final, agreed on
value.
(NancyL) Gerard, per the Z's, none seen on the horizon. I think the
Z's said that depending upon their PRESENT mode, they will continue
apace.
(Spanky) Although the last Niburians who stayed behind eventuallly
lost their technology. Mythology begins to refer to them not as gods but as
ogres, phillistines, cyclops. etc
(JoeyB) Nancy: Have you seen images of
those bright billboards in Russia, announcing a new planet arriving?
(NancyL)
Muslin countries highly repressed, etc, and the US fraught with disinfo as
usual.
(NancyL) Europe is more open to the idea, and Russia too! Letting the
population know, etc.
(Spanky) The 5th element is actually a 12th planet
movie if you look at it closely.
(S7L) If USGS lies then it does real poor
job at it.
(NancyL) Gerard, not enough known yet what will happen, and no
change from when last discussed a couple weeks ago.
(Spanky) I thought Russia
was a highly STS group of people.
(S7L) Spanky: hehe. You witnessing the
effects of cold war?
(NancyL) Sirgrim, magnetic diffusion has been happening
increasingly, and the theory about magnetic flips "just happening" is WRONG, but
still humans discuss it while ignoring the crust movement evidence.
(Spanky)
Not only cold war but look at Chechnya, repression of minorities, rampant
crime.
(Gerard) Spanky: everyone country, has it's STO people ... So to say
the Russians are higly STS is kinda
(S7L) NancyL: why is the ocean bottom
striping exactly reverse rather than pointing to this or that direction? Why are
the magnetic lines indicating that the poles in the main flipped, not moved
about on the Earth quite randomly?
(Torbj) I've read about Putin slipping
with his tongue to the press telling about a massive dieoff... but was later on
"smothed over" filled put..
(NancyL) S7L what are you talking about, Mike's
estimate and magnitude, etc? I missed it because I was blabbering away.
(S7L)
NancyL: The page you refer to was offered by Mike.
(IQx) Spanky: perhaps the
Russian government and the elites, but the people themselves are very humble. At
least speaking from my point view as I was born there.
(S7L) I believe Mike
didn't fuly understand what he was observing.
(Malakai) Nancy, so there
should be concern of NWO cartel surviving with mass weapons and in the after
time trying to continue there advancement in enslaving the survivors?
(S7L)
Mike saw the difference between initial estimations, and the final figures, for
the quakes.
(NancyL) JoeyB, apparently a commercial add, but obviously
intended to be a subconscious, subliminal nudge!
(IQx) Spanky: there are bad
seeds in all sorts of piles
(S7L) The press wants to report quickly so the
first reports always are based on estimations of the strength of the
event.
(S7L) That is why there are differences in the reporting.
(NancyL)
S7L, wandering poles do NOT point in reverse, all the time, point in every
direction.
(Kirk) Has it started yet?
(Gerard) nope just discussion before
hand ..
(S7L) NancyL: but the ocean striping, to my understanding, seems to
indicate that the poles have been mostly where they are, only the direction of
magnetic field reversed.
(Zetapal) Yeah Spanky, listen to IQX, "what he
said".
(S7L) At least this is the impression I have received - that is why
they can draw nice charts and say "NS" here and "SN" here, instead of drawing
vectors showing the differing directions.
(NancyL) S7L then why do the
wandering poles logic show the poles only a few degress from each other, at
times, NOT flipped!
(Zetapal) A little left-over cold war
propaganda?
(IQx) Zetapal: perhaps
(NancyL) I think the "reversals" get
the head-turning, so get quoted.
(VonSpark) Hey all! Say, is Robert, the
maker of the "planetxvideo.com" video and website here today?
(NancyL) Re
the Giant Pyramids pointing directly N/S, this is not true either. I researched
on the web and in fact is is just "kinda" pointing N/S, more that than other
alignments, and it gets quoted as though it were PERFECTLY N/S.
(Spanky) Alot
of debunkers saying a pole shift of what Zetatalk describes would do everything
short of vaporise the earth's crust
(S7L) NancyL: I admit I must research
this topic further. I just can't get the observed ocean striping agree with the
moving continents in my head. But I have to dig up references before I can carry
this point on further. I'd do that now if I cared so much about it. I was just
wondering because some usenet poster posed this question - was Jeff from
Minneapolis I think.
(Debian) Would we all die? :(
(NancyL) Von Spark, he
does not attend, but I know the guy.
(IQx) Debian: unfortunately most of us
will, but it is possible to prepare and save ourselves
(NancyL) Spanky, and
when you ask them to back up their statement, they get testy :-).
(Debian)
How we can save us?
(NancyL) I've had mail from folks saying if rotation
stopped everything would fly off into space.
(IQx) Debian: refer to
www.zetatalk.com and http://www.zetatalk.com/thub.htm
(S7L) Well they don't
understand very much science, nor the gradual stoppage I guess.
(NancyL) NO
logic, as lack of centrifugal would do the opposite, and then, on the Moon, man
did not fly off, etc.
(VonSpark) Thanks, Nancy. He seems very passionate
about the issue, and I understand he's met you. He takes a beating on the Yahoo
message boards, and wanted to congratulate him for, at least, his
courage.
(Malakai) So why don't we fly off into space now?
(Gerard) What
about the African issue. The service to Self aliens over there. Only a year left
before the shift occurs .. Will it also continue afterwards on that continent.
Or is there a change in sight for the coming months.
(S7L) People seem to
confuse centrifugal force and gravity somehow with each other.
(NancyL) Very
extreme statements, even from the supposedly educated.
(Spanky) And why
doesn't the Earth cause Mars to poleshift whenever they come close?
(S7L)
Though we do think that the Moon rotates in fact... Just keeps same face towards
Earth
(Torbj) If you do not want to die, you probably will not... if you stay
tuned to your "inner gut".../stomach..
(Torbj) To Debian
(IQx) Spanky:
perhaps the masses do not come close to Nibiru's - Nibiru is about 23 times
dense than our planet
(NancyL) Gerard, I'll add it. Africa per the Z's will
have massive dieoff from disease.
(Butch) Spanky: the sun has the controls in
this neighborhood...
(Debian) It`ll be very hard for the people on the
earth
(TerrorDactyl) 30 mins to start yes?
(Gerard) Did the amount of STO
people on this world grow since the last time it got mentioned on zetatalk "The
Earth, at close to 5 billion people, is approximately 25% Service-to-Other
orientation, 7% Service-to- Self orientation, and 68% undecided, These
percentages move about a bit." ?
(IQx) TerrorDactyl: around there,
yes
(S7L) Debian: before one should throw away all hope, let us wait for a
very clear sighting of Planet X on telescopes around August 2002 when Orion
comes out from behind the Sun to sufficient degree.
(Zetapal) Good old Torbj
- lol - I can always count on you every week, same message, say are you a
chef?
(Torbj) Itīs always hard to live... you could always die!
(Spanky)
Is the dead star actually a system that was moved to 4th density, perhaps maybe
the Nordics homeworld?
(Karen) Has the Zetatalk start time changed from 5 to
6?
(S7L) Karen: no, it's been the same - 22:00 UTC. But for you, it's
changed.
(NancyL) Gerard, no big change in the % as due to high tension not
much progress, everyone kind of stunned and stuck in their
orientation.
(Spanky) Which is why the humans and niburians resemble
them?
(NancyL) Undecideds don't progress, STO move more so, STS move more so,
etc.
(TerrorDactyl) I am an undecided myself :)
(IQx) I wish to be STO,
but am not sure if I'm one - thus I can assume I'm undecided also
(Matt) Not
an intellectual decision though
(S7L) What is the motivation for people to
wish to be STO's
(Spanky) I have learned that you are probably more STO than
you think.
(JoeyB) I was a little confused. When the Zetas give these
percentages, are they referring to "formed" entities or all 6
billion?
(Lebrasse) 25% STO? How come 1.5 billion ready to go to 4th density
if only 1 billion re-born souls on earth now?
(TerrorDactyl) Good question
Lebrasse
(IQx) S7L: that 'feeling' you get when you sacrifice something of
your own for someone else.
(Bulgaria) All of you, just be cool and don't
afraid from the comming manace.
(IQx) S7L: to see their joy I
guess.
(SteveH) I think it's 25% of the 1 billion souls are STO
(S7L) IQx:
but you didn't say that you wanted to experience that. You wanted to be
STO.
(S7L) Unless you have taken that to be equivalent...
(IQx) S7L:
perhaps you're jumping on words, I wish to be certain that I am an
STO
(TerrorDactyl) You really think that 75 percent of us dont have a spirit
at all?
(S7L) Why do you want to be certain? What's that going to
prove?
(Gerard) The thing will change after the pole shift, with the Hybrids
coming to this world etc.. The die off. What is the time frame that they will be
on earth, was it right after the pole shift or some time after it when things
have settled down a bit?
(IQx) S7L: maybe I am harsh on myself, but I see
faults within me - which don't allow me to come to a conclusion that I am in
fact an STO.
(TerrorDactyl) Anyone here an STS by the way?
(IQx) S7L: why
not? Wouldn't one want to be closer to being certain... about Px for
example?
(IQx) TerrorDactyl: I dont believe if one is STS, that they will
simply come out and state themselves to be one, hehe
(S7L) IQx: then, you
suffer from a case of spiritual grasping perhaps. You want to be STO but you
don't like things that remind you of STS-ness perhaps?
(Zetapal) Ahhh S7L
good point I didn't even realize that the time change effectively "shifted" my
zetatalk chat time thanks, lol,you know us arrogant Americans we figure if we go
on Daylight Savings Time then we just simply assume the rest of the world did
the same, lol. One day we''ll turn around and realize that no one is
following
(NancyL) Terror, apparently the spirit in a NEW body does not spark
all the time, and most do not.
(Spanky) Speaking of Terrordactyl's question:
how bad is life as one of the octopus forms: how likely are you to be shark food
on this world?
(IQx) S7L: yes, I am spiritually immature, absolutely
(S7L)
Zetapal: heh. Well, we have also gone to daylight savings. It happened one week
before for us.
(Torbj) You are what you are... life itself will bring to to
one direction or another.... If you are not really experience anything "hard"
that will force you to make a choice... then you will be
"undecided".
(TerrorDactyl) So are you saying that I may not
spark?
(NancyL) It's not that the soul/spirit is not THERE, it is just so
vapid, and dissipates, does not form and last.
(S7L) IQx: how do you view
that statement 'I am spiritually immature' ?
(S7L) Is there judgement at
yourself?
(TerrorDactyl) I think/I know that I will spark.
(SteveH) We
can't be certain of the status of our souls so it's largely useless excessively
pondering on whether one os STO or not, just go out and live.
(NancyL)
Spanky, I guess the genetic engineers would not select a life form that got
eaten that regularly.
(IQx) We spoke about this before S7L, lets not make
this a public discussion, hehe
(Malakai) Nancy, if the world govt (United
Nations) is prepared for PX, are they a threat to the survivors , since they
would likely have weapons and aircraft under Denver, Colorado ?
(NancyL)
However, our cave man days were not all that advantageous, either!
(S7L) IQx:
consider that the best thing you can do for yourself is just to be yourself.
Throw away the concepts of STO and STS and consider uncovering who you are and
what you want. Keep in mind where you want to go. But from how I view it, you
can even harm your own progress by judging somethings as STS when they are
not.
(NancyL) Terror, you've probably sparked, else you'd not be
here.
(S7L) Just experience directly and honestly. Observe. Do not judge what
seems STS, nor what seems STO. Do just that what you want.
(TerrorDactyl) I
just know somehow that I am here for a purpose and that I have an everlasting
soul
(S7L) IQx: oh, too late :-) but okay
(Zetapal) I thought for the last
3yrs that I was STO until last weeks chat - now I don't know - either way - I
guess I wouldn't want to be tapped into a club until I was ready...
(IQx)
S7L: correct, but It goes much further than that S7L, its not simply 'wanting'
to be STO
(NancyL) Malakai, added UN ROLE to the agenda.
(S7L) Yeah maybe
not. I'm just afraid many people have started to judge others with concepts like
"you are STS" "you have no soul" or themselves, the same way
(IQx) S7L: if
you wish, we can expand on that during some other time, in TT-Chat
(S7L) And
I don't know if that's very useful at all
(IQx) S7L: no, absolutely not,
lol
(TerrorDactyl) I want to be STO, but often I get selfish and fall into
undecided mode.
(Gerard) If one is STO one kinda knows for what I read ...
there are signs that tell.
(IQx) S7L: to be honest, I'm against
'grouping'.
(NancyL) Terror, your PURPOSE is up to YOU, so SPARK and DO
something with your life!
(NancyL) Stop whinning and asking someone else to
reassure you! ACTION is what counts!
(IQx) Gerard: what if one has signs from
both? STO & STS? What is he now?
(Spanky) As for the zetas: 32 million
years of the same thing. Wouldn't you get bored?
(S7L) TerrorDactyl: some
selfishness is good. Don't be alarmed. Just follow what seems right thing. Just
do that what is "you".
(Gerard) Even someone who is STO doesn't forget the
self. Right?
(S7L) Ignore the standards set by anyone else, for they are
their standards. You have your own. What matters to you is what is important, so
clarify this first.
(TerrorDactyl) Ok good advice thanks
(Gerard) If one
is of mixed orietnation then it's undecided
(IQx) Gerard: not forgetting
self, but hmm.. a STS trait may be exploiting others for self benefit
(Torbj)
itīs not like you can pick a course in school or schoose a pair of socks to
were...
(IQx) S7L: i always pick out a piece here and there, and create sort
of 'my standards' - I thought you noticed that before, hehe.
(Mary) Nancy,
have you ever heard from Ron D.?
(S7L) The point is that an STS person sees
no problem at taking advantage of others, while the STO will still respect
another's good even if it amounted to some personal harm. How far you can go
here is another issue. Just do what feels right -- it's as simple as
that.
(S7L) IQx: mm, I guess.
(Clipper) I have and he is doing fine. Has
his own place now.
(JoeyB) Has anyone noticed how strong the "polarization"
is becoming in their workplaces, towns, etc?
(S7L) Hey Clipper
:)
(Clipper) Mornin:-)
(Gerard) Mary: I don't think that's a discussion
for this channel now.
(Zetapal) S7L ask me that (aka IQX)
(TerrorDactyl)
Anyone wonder if they have had past lives?
(Gerard) Well if one looks around
then it's noticable that the Transformation is going on.
(Nomis) Nancy: What
where the mysterious Lights over Germany?
(S7L) TerrorDactyl: what! Never
ever thought of that. Sarcasm
(Mary) Clipper: Thanks
(TerrorDactyl) No, I
mean in detail.. what they were etc
(Torbj) Its of course not only mother
Earth thatīs "moving along" with this planet coming in... we all
are!
(TerrorDactyl) Are the planets in our system coming along to 4th density
at the same time we do?
(IQx) If Earth is our uncle, and Nibiru is earth's
brother, then Nibiru is our uncle! Hehe
(IQx) Earth is our mother
(Gerard)
Nomis: they said it was the racket afterall, the debris felt down in Tibet or
so. Even in a Dutch place folks saw it, a green ball with a tail.
(Spanky)
Drunk uncle more like it
(Malakai) Nancy, how long are the hurricane winds
expected ?
(Malakai) 3 days ?
(Clipper) I am my own Grampa:-)
(S7L)
Malakai: the driving force for hurricane is the moving continents. You can
expect a settling as soon as the driving force goes away with only local storms
- will be bad of course but not worse than typical storms I'd
hazard.
(NancyL) Terror, that's already in ZT, go read.
(Malakai) So not a
long period then
(Lebrasse) I wish the aliens would drop the unconscious rule
now we're so close! ;-)
(NancyL) Malakai, the HOUR of the shift is when the
crust moves, water does not so much thus flood tides and sloshing over several
hours or even days.
(S7L) Malakai: to be on the safe side I guess you would
experience really shitty weather for a few days...
(Bulgaria) Debian
interesen nick, kak ti hrumna? ;)
(JoeyB) There was a large sighting over
Barvaria recently. May have been early debris.
(NancyL) I would think
hurrican winds during the hour, mostly, then dropping to breezy.
(S7L) "Open
are the double door of the horizon / Unlocked are its vaults / Coulds darken the
sky / The stars rain down / Constellations stagger / Bones of the hell hounds
tremble"
(Debian) Bulgaria ami ima edna operacionna systema s tova
ime
(Malakai) Nancy, u say that solar power will not work well due to
volcanic dust?
(TerrorDactyl) Nancy, have you heard of Robert
Shapiro?
(Gerard) People noticed lights etc in Germany and also in some Dutch
places ..last week for what I remember... But the same day also some parts of a
racket would fell down on earth . So later on they said that that is what people
saw. Debris falling down
(Zetapal) I think the statement "I'm spiritually
immature", shows the person is being realistic and truthful with themself and
whoever their talking too, and realism/truthfulness is a sign of maturity ..
so...you be the judge...if you need one...yeah
(NancyL) Lebrasse, me too, I
even asked for this formally and had a hearing and a Zeta advocate, but didn't
get my way :-(
(S7L) This nice piece of poetry has been uncovered from the
ruins of City of Horizons, I understand, from the Akhnaten period.
(Torbj)
LeBresse...the unconscious rule is something that you accepted when you
incarnate to this 3D
(Bulgaria) Debian: bez maitap, ne sum 4uval za
takava
(AndrewP) The question of it being unconscienable NOT to pass the ZT
message along has given me much food for thought! And I must say
thanks..
(NancyL) Malakai, how well do solar panels work on a cloudly day?
Not well, so ...
(S7L) Even I have passed the word along a little despite I
start by clarifying that it's scientifically very unfeasible.
(Sirgrim)
Currently there are daily UFO reports going on in Australia, so the sightings
are really on the increase as predicted ;D
(Nomis) Nancy: Can you say us
something about the things that happen in Medjugorje?
(TerrorDactyl) Gonna go
crop circle hunting soon, I live right near Stonehenge
(Malakai) I want to
create an alternative energy supply for the aftertime, solar is not a good
option ?
(AndrewP) But of course it IS scientifically feasible S7L
(S7L)
AndrewP: sorry? Read my statement again.
(NancyL) S7L, I have noted on
sci.astro lately, a new mode.
(AndrewP) Done S7L.! YEP
(NancyL) They say,
"I think Nancy is crazy and all" as qualification and then start talking VERY
DETAILED about Richter 15 quakes (whole earth) and the like.
(S7L) AndrewP:
well, you said the opposite of my statement
(NancyL) Sure, they're in there
talking about it because they think I'm crazy :-)
(AndrewP) Yes I know, S7L,
I know, but its early morn here!
(S7L) NancyL: I have noted the discussion
with high interest. I must say it intrigues me also.
(NancyL) But few want to
say "I'm beginning to feel nervous about this and much of what she says makes
sense" so they still excuse themselves.
(S7L) AndrewP: and that is related
how? You are still dizzy? Or what?
(Gerard) The awakening is making progress.
Some time ago I read about people seeing silver aliens or so .. What's the next
thing we could expect, are the people on this world more open yet for more or?
(NancyL) I suspect those posting in my favor get horrendous nasty e-mail
from the folks whose job it is to do this.
(Okidok) Hi Terror, maybe this
year crop circles will disclose next year events?
(TerrorDactyl) READ THIS
JUST SEEN IT http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_564525.html
(AndrewP) No,
not dizzy, just seeking he right approach is all
(NancyL) Makakai, wind or
water mills, best.
(S7L) AndrewP: heh. Then I must confess I understand even
less
(Thunderoc) Nancy..part of being ahead of your time...is that when
people finally realize you were right...they will say it was obvious all the
time.. :o)
(TerrorDactyl) Read that URL folks it confirms a pole
shift
(S7L) NancyL: I don't think the conspiracy is that large as you seem to
imply.
(NancyL) AndrewP, do we need to move an hour earlier? I asked once
about the hour, what would be convenient for ALL participatns.
(Hellsing) I
just want to meet an alien.
(S7L) There are definitely a few hard-core
sceptics who have a downright oppressive tone, but in the main I find a
high-quality detailed discussion done seriously, and I really like Mr. Jeff's
posts.
(NancyL) Okidok, I think the crop circles have been doing this all
along, but folks interpret them othewise.
(AndrewP) S7L: everyday I
understand a liitle more, and the results speak for themselves
(Torbj)
Hellsing... ask for it, and you will!
(Brian) Can we get the log of this
session up a little faster?
(Vkuzma) Any particular reason why so little UFO
activity goes on in Canada? Or am I just not looking in the right places for
information on this?
(NancyL) Terror, could you give a short description of
that site?
(Hellsing) Torbj. aslong as they don't hurt me :)
(S7L)
AndrewP: I tend to understand even less, heh.
(TerrorDactyl)
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_564525.html, it confirms that scientists
think the poles are about to flip
(S7L) TerrorDactyl: noticed the time
scales?
(Malakai) No water for watermill, wind ok..any other sources for
powerful electric generation cheap ?
(S7L) TerrorDactyl: noticed it's not a
continental shift, just magnetic pole shift?
(JoeyB) There is a big Hollywood
flick coming soon about Crop Circles!
(NancyL) S7L it does not take many
folks to create a climate of debunking. On sci.astro, perhaps a dozen over the
years!
(AndrewP) The more I know the more I learn about how Little I know,
heh? How true is that old adage?
(S7L) TerrorDactyl: noticed that it's a very
SLOW thing. "About" is about 2000 years or what?
(NancyL) Brian, no, 24 hours
is a reasonable time, and I must work tomorrow!
(Brian) Ok
(NancyL)
Terror, oh, they're working that magnetic flip for no reason theory.
(S7L)
NancyL: mmh, truish, perhaps. However I see a number of posters who seem to post
for right reasons, and are very open. Like I said, my kudos to those people. I
think their presence makes the world a nice place to be :-)
(Spanky) The
zetas probably consider Canada and the US as a single unit
(TerrorDactyl) It
doesnt give a time scale it just says about to flip, no specific
(NancyL)
Makakai, no, not many options.
(Brian) Nancy, has Robert Sepher talked to you
yet about getting bandwidth?
(NancyL) JoeyB, really! Crop Circles! I hope is
is not a big debunking thing.
(Malakai) Could the zetas show me an
inexpensive way to make a nuclear fission generator ... please : )
(Lebrasse)
What is your paid job Nancy ?
(S7L) TerrorDactyl: ok. I have seen a bigger
article about this. The time scales are thousands of years. Not next
year.
(Hellsing) Malakai lol
(TerrorDactyl) I have walked in many crop
circles including the 409 circle milk hill one last year
(JoeyB) Nancy: The
film is called "Signs". Due out in August - stars Mel Gibson.
(Karen) Mel
Gibson in the Crop Circle movie
(NancyL) S7L, yes, like climate change and
continental drift, so slow, and then they find otherwise!
(S7L) TerrorDactyl:
and they nowhere imply a continental shift. They talk just reversal of magnetic
poles. But anyway, it's indicative.
(Hellsing) Crop Circles were created by
humans.
(S7L) NancyL: well, they do acknowledge it's not known how fast it
can occur
(DavidS) Hellsing..not all of them...
(S7L) They state "if it
goes on at this rate, then ..."
(Zetapal) You know how about.com (a common
search engine) puts together little pages of pre-assembled search results on
certain topics? Well Feb11th they added a page on planet X and it briefly caps
the whole planet x discovery/coverup/return along with a few links. Pretty
mainstream acceptance of these ideas gaining speed and yes they mention 2003 but
make it a point to say they don't know where that date comes from. This seems to
be the trend.
(S7L) And give a figure in thousands of years.
(NancyL)
Lebrasse, lower level now, I quit my good paying systems job and moved to the
boonies.
(Hellsing) DavidS: maybe not
(Vkuzma) Spanky: so the sightings in
the US are enough for Canadians and Americans? That's too bad. We need more
sightings up here ;)
(AndrewP) I spotted a craft for the first time recently
and it made me turn right around and examine so much of my previous
conditioning. I had to see what I had refuted for so long
(Brian) Oh, one
question not really related to anything but would give credit to the Zeta's.
What isotope of element 115 is stable?
(JoeyB) We left Seattle and love the
boonies!
(Brian) We have yet to discover it for some reason.
(NancyL)
Brian, no discussion about 115 as you're not to know, etc.
(TerrorDactyl) I
saw a brown boomerang shaped craft about 2 yrs ago - maybe 100 feet above my
head
(NancyL) Getting close, so I'm about to start ...
(Hellsing) Will the
aliens give me $500million
(Brian) Hehe, was worth a shot though.
(Zetapal) Parlour games - call David Blaine
(NancyL) The first Q I
collected from the last chat, as it was asked during open session and I missed
it, so collected it, etc.
(NancyL) A, B, C are different people at the last
chat.
(NancyL) ARRANGEMENTS
(NancyL) A. How do those so called accidents
function that we all experience in our life?
(NancyL) A: That are not
accidents :)
(NancyL) B: That things in life happen with a reason ..
(NancyL) A: For example if you meet somebody not planned but important,
accidently.
(NancyL) C: Ah. That kind of thing. Coincidences.
(NancyL) A:
I would like to ask, how these are arranged
(NancyL) ZT: Humans are in the
main only subliminatlly aware of their contactee role.
(NancyL) ZT: They are
also thus only subliminally aware of the other humans they meet during
visitations.
(NancyL) ZT: As we have explained, many humans are meeting
regularly during the visits with OTHER humans, planning their roles during the
times moving into the shift, their roles during the shift itself, and in
particular their roles in the Aftertime.
(Degradii) I have interesting
information
(S7L) Degradii: please hold it until later
(NancyL) ZT: These
roles are, as we hardly need mention, inter-related and coordinated by the
contactees themselves and their alien visitors, as a team.
(Degradii)
http://degrfiles.dyns.cx/X/document54.htm
(Degradii) About 3 political
murders
(Degradii) I think it connected to the greys
(NancyL) ZT: What
sorts of activities might be planned? Prior to the shift, accidental meetings
among humans who then become acquainted with each other in the conscious
mode.
(IQx-Out) Degradii: I cannot open the document
(Degradii)
What!
(Torbj) Hush!
(Gerard) Degradddi: not during the session, or during
the answer.. And it's not related now , this is also for the others here .. no
chatter during the anwer please
(NancyL) ZT: This facilitates later meetings
when they will be conscious, as they will better recognize each other and not
hesitate to work fully with each other.
(Degradii) How?
(Gerard) Hush
(Degradii) Got to go
(NancyL) ZT: During the shift, the roles are often
involving guiding groups to safety, though many roles involve staying with those
doomed to help them understand what has occurred.
(NancyL) ZT: During the
shift, there will be attempts by the elite to prevent awareness of the coming
changes until it is too late.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, a role during the shift
might be leaking information, breaking this coverup with the truth.
(NancyL)
ZT: The roles in the Aftertime will be diverse, depending upon skillsets and the
climate the contactee is used to functioning in.
(NancyL) ZT: For instance, a
contactee who is an eskimo might find life in the tropics of Alaska
uncomforatable and NOT making best use of their skills.
(NancyL) ZT: They may
be expected to arrive in suddenly frozen land, to help those surviving there
understand HOW to proceed.
(Vha) Hey all could you open that site
http://degrfiles.dyns.cx/X/document54.htm
(Clipper) No way :-)
(NancyL)
ZT: Now, given this kind of volunteering and coordination, what might a
contactee, unaware consciously of his status, expect?
(Gerard) Vha: hello not
during the session please
(Gerard) Hush
(NancyL) ZT: They may find
themselves in a book store, browsing books they have previously not had an
interest in.
(NancyL) ZT: They may find themselves drawn, impelled, toward a
particular location such as a park, on a certain day, and find themselves
talking to an otherwise stranger as though a friend.
(NancyL) ZT: This is not
an accident, this was a PLAN. BOTH contactees met, earlier, and deciding they
needed to get consciouslhy aqainted so as to lessen time loss when the workload
was upon them, made this plan.
(NancyL) ZT: BOTH determined the time and
location, and BOTH set out that day to meet each other.
(NancyL) ZT: Should
either get lost, or delayed, the other would get this message via their
visitors, who are monitoring the meeting to assist and ensure it takes
place.
(NancyL) ZT: These meetings are a desire of the HUMANS involved, who
are in essence giving The Call to accomplish this, and thus assisting in this is
quite in line with the rules on interference with human affairs.
(NancyL) End
ZT Followup?
(TerrorDactyl) How do you know if you have been assigned a role,
what the role is?
(AndrewP) Nancy, can consciously remembered dreams that
have a relationship to the ZT material be an accurate pointer to such subliminal
understanding of roles to play or is this just subconscious
autosuggestion?
(JoeyB) Very true! I met my partner "before" we met. I
remember "dreaming" about how we would plan put the next few years and assist
each other.
(Nomis) What you can say about the things that happen in
Medjugorje? I mean the seeing of the Madonna!
(NancyL) ZT to Terror:
Contactees KNOW their roles, as they are fully aware in their subconscious,
which is connected to all brain parts except the conscious which is
selective.
(Brian) Wow, a lot of those things seem to have happened to me,
exactly, but no conciouse awareness, why the secretness?
(NancyL) ZT: Thus,
if you sense in your gut that this is the case, trust your gut!
(NancyL) End
ZT to Terror.
(ChiefSimi) How many people approximately, present here in this
chatroom, are contactees?
(Gerard) So contactees can also arrange that they
meet on IRC for example?
(Spanky) Why are aliens bothering with all this
when they want the human race gone and out of the way?
(NancyL) Nomis, this
is not on the Agenda, please send via the Contact Nancy e-mail
route.
(TerrorDactyl) Are we all here tonight because we have a
role?
(Gerard) Chiefsimi: maybe more then you think, maybe you are a
contactee yourself without knowing you are.
(NancyL) Chief, per the Z's,
better than 50%.
(Karen) So the Zeta's would be interfering to answer any
questions about a persons memory concerning meetings?
(Gerard) Nancyl: :)
(Hellsing) This better not be a cult :)
(DavidS) I like the question of
Terror dactyl - is it a reason why we all the people are here on
IRC-chat?
(NancyL) Spanky, it's about soul development, and we are to live
out our incarnation.
(ChiefSimi) :)
(NancyL) Also, why NOT work as team
mates NOW?
(Torbj) If you are conssiosness about your self to quickly...and
to soon...maybe you will "overdue" yourself?
(NancyL) OK, Next
Q...
(Gerard) Hellsing: it ain't.. contactees doesn't mean cult members
(NancyL) BUSH PLAN
(NancyL) My question is what was Bush doing going on
tv and asking everyone to give 4,000 hours of service to country....is he trying
to keep everyone busy?
(Hellsing) Gerard: good :)
(NancyL) ZT:
Anticipating a crashed economy and bewildered populace, the Bush Administration
has a plan.
(Hellsing) I hope michigan is safe.
(NancyL) ZT: To the extent
that money can be gen'd up and pumped into the economy, it will be
done.
(NancyL) ZT: This includes lowering interest rates to banks, which has
about reached it's limits.
(NancyL) ZT: This also includes such moves as
extending the unemployment insurance time period, so that those unemployed can
get checks for an extended period of time.
(NancyL) ZT: But what will occur
when MANY companies go out of business, and the unemployed reach huge numbers,
and bankrupcies are clogging the courts?
(NancyL) ZT: During the Great
Depression, most banks failed but not all collapsed, as everyone pretended not
to notice the failures.
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, bankruptcies were rampant, but
why collect a farm or house or business if you cannot sell it?
(NancyL) ZT:
The banks ignored the bankruptcy and failure to pay, the government ignored the
essential failure of the bank, and later all pulled up and moved on.
(NancyL)
ZT: In like manner, a long forgiveness and period of ignoring non-payment or
insolvency may emerge.
(Mike Valley) The Zetas are not demons.. also the
zetas are not angels
(NancyL) ZT: During the Great Depression, migration of
the homeless seeking work occurred, with many given work that was paid for by a
place to stay, shelter, or meals.
(NancyL) ZT: The barter system, at
work.
(NancyL) ZT: The Bush Administration is an isolationist, elitist,
group, and thus does not think of the man on the street so much as a human being
as a pawn.
(NancyL) ZT: Pawns get moved about, and are not informed or asked
their opinion.
(NancyL) ZT: The Bush Plan on what to do with many idle
workers, who are asking intense questions about the state of the world, the
condition of the globe, and why everything BUT the weather and rising seas are
in the news, is to treat them like children, and assign them to parents and
caretakers.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, churches are directed to take over charity
efforts, as a source at first of government funds and later NO funds but the
plan is for the children to go THERE with their hands out.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus,
unwed mothers among the lower classes are to wed the fathers of their children,
as though having this on paper will result in responsible parenting when
government services are stopped.
(NancyL) ZT: This is of course naive, silly,
and if anything just giving those who are NOT providing information and are
storing goods for themselves a conscience-salve.
(NancyL) ZT: A third
maneuver is to gen up a citizen work force, like the Peace Corps but doing their
good work locally.
(NancyL) ZT: In that those who are STO minded are already
DOING work in keeping with their inclinations, what does this
accomplish?
(NancyL) ZT: In that those in the Bush Administration would
scarsely care to extend effort for the common man, unless ordered to do so, they
are cannot imagine anyone in the populace doing this unless someone was coerced
into the role.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, in the midst of what they hope will be a
long running "War on Terrorism", they hope to find enough volunteers for their
domestic Peace Corps who will feel COMPELLED by pressure from employers and
church members that they will sign up for service.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus on the
hook, it is the plan of the Bush Administration to say, when the time comes,
"OK, we've got to go into our bunkers now, go look to your local Peace Corp
volunteers for help" and ditch out.
(NancyL) End ZT
Followup?
(TerrorDactyl) This is a worldwide problem, so why do the Zetas
only talk about America and its response? 90 per cent of the world are not
americans!!
(Jeremy) Will earth changes exponentially increase by the end of
this year?
(NancyL) Because the question was about the Bush plan.
(NancyL)
Worldwide is coming next, also on the Agenda.
(S7L) And most of ZT followers
are americans, so that's what gives the impression
(NancyL) Moving
along,
(NancyL) GLOBAL VARIATION
(NancyL) 1. Any idea about the situation
in the European countries before the shift occurs. Like those belonging to the
EU? Reactions etc... Different laws, other goverment(s) as in the
USA.
(NancyL) 2. What about the African issue. The service to Self aliens
over there. Only a year left before the shift occurs .. Willl it also continue
afterwards on that continent. or is there a change in sight for the coming
months.
(Torbj) US is in 90% of the world.....
(NancyL) ZT: The issues
facing the Bush Administration are not unlike those facing all other
governments, except for certain awareness of the coming event.
(NancyL) ZT:
With or without the inside track on Planet X and the potential of a coming pole
shift, ALL governments are faced with the following concerns:
(NancyL) ZT: 1.
When to tell. This involves determining with some degree of CERTAINTY that a
pole shift, or even a close passage, will occur.
(NancyL) ZT: In that those
countries, which are few, and in that those individuals in those countries
aware, which are likewise a close group of small numbers, are NOT the majority
of countries, MOST countries are hesitant to say anything.
(NancyL) ZT: Even
in those countries where the leadership is aware, and watching the inbound
planet increase in size in accordance with our predictions, they hesitate for
the following reasons.
(NancyL) ZT: a) The orbit and path and speed of the
inbound planet, per ourselves, the Zetas, are so outside of human understanding
of astro-physics.
(NancyL) ZT: b) The argument that a WRONG warning can do
more damage than waiting, keeps those who would issue a warning in
check.
(NancyL) ZT: 2. What to tell. The issue of what a crust shift would
mean, what direction, what speed, what impact on coast lines, is so much in
doubt among scientists discussing this that the political leadership hardly
knows what to say.
(NancyL) ZT: Should they just relay what ZetaTalk states?
This results in so much heated debate that it never moves forward.
(NancyL)
ZT: Since the leadership does not know what to say, in explaining what they
EXPECT to happen, they cannot move forward and fall mum.
(NancyL) ZT: 3. What
to advise. Even should the leadership of a country decide that they MUST say
something in warning, and at least can explain the various theories about
potential impact, they are left with the issue of what to advise.
(NancyL)
ZT: Even good hearted leadership might be stymied if there is NOTHING the
populace can do, in the main, to save itself.
(NancyL) ZT: What would the
leadership of India say, for instance? You could leave the country but no one
will take you, so prepare to die?
(NancyL) ZT: They feel their countrymen are
already in this position, so why repeat the message.
(NancyL) ZT: What would
the leaderhsip of European countries say? Invade your neighbor in the
highlands?
(NancyL) ZT: This would be considered inciting war, or riot, and
if the pole shift did NOT occur the person would have many regrets.
(NancyL)
ZT: The bottom line is that unless a country has OPTIONS, and feels they might
be able to support their citizens, they are unlikely to speak out at
all.
(NancyL) ZT: In countries where the citizenship is scaresly aware of the
outside world, little will thus be said.
(NancyL) ZT: Droughts or deluges,
starvation, all will be treated as episodes have in the past, acts of God or
Nature or whatever.
(NancyL) ZT: In Africa, starvation and dictators and
savage competition for leadership will continue up to and through the
shift.
(NancyL) ZT: After this, as we have predicted, decimation will occur
due to the continual drizzle creating a climate suitable for the Ebola type
viruses, which live in swamps.
(Freax) Im thinking we originated from this
rock that's coming back
(Freax) And we were maybe thrown or grafted onto this
planet
(NancyL) ZT: This will create such massive dieoff in Africa that in
future, several decades forward, survivors wandering into this area or migrating
there will think this a virgin land.
(NancyL) ZT: In South America, there are
countries ruled by elite who scarsely care for their populace, and these will
gradually change over death of those inclined toward STS and increasing
incarnation of STO oriented spirits.
(NancyL) ZT: In constrast to the elite,
most often from European and Nazi heritage, there are the local Indian cultures,
which will grow in influence.
(NancyL) zT: Thus, several decades in the
future, a new visitor to this continent will find the Indian cultures dominant,
with tales of the prior savage leadership only a tale to be told.
(NancyL)
ZT: In Australia, a similar progression will occur. Today, the ultra-right elite
in England and Australia are planning survival at the expense of the common
man.
(NancyL) ZT: These enclaves will gradually lose power, if not overtaken
and decimated by internal wars, with those among the commoners prevailing over
time in concert with the native Aborigines, who are mainly STO
oriented.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, a traveler to Australia in furture decades will
find a delightful mix of Aboriginnes and those of European or Asian deseent,
living in STO communities.
(NancyL) ZT: In the Muslim countries which stretch
out from India toward Africa, the descending cold will create great loss of
life.
(NancyL) ZT: In the struggle for survival, the Muslim culture, in being
male dominant and caring little for the children among them and into warring
lately, will decimate the groups further.
(NancyL) ZT: In the end, unless a
group from this culture escapes, in essence, they will not survive.
(NancyL)
ZT: If STO oriented, they must separate from the main populace, which will end
up with only a few men with guns, the lone survivors.
(NancyL) ZT: In that
the land will support little, they will migrate toward more tropical areas, and
integrate.
(NancyL) ZT: In the main, we expect those Muslim groups to end up
in Africa, some decades hense, a direction we have advised.
(NancyL) End ZT
Followup?
(TerrorDactyl) When will my government in the UK tell its people of
the passage, if at all?
(Nomis) Why will America strike agianst Iraq? Because
we all will have problems next year, so why they will do this?
(Okidok)
Nancy, do you think most of the worlds goverment and leadership is fully aware
of what is going to happen next year?
(Torbj) It will only take one countryīs
leadership to tell... and then the rest of the world will get it also... but
probably without getting into the big news..
(DavidS) What kind of
governments/leadership(countries) in Europe do know about Planet X/Nibiru and
follow its path and are aware of pole-shift? England? Scandinavia?Russia?
Germany? France?
(Kirk) What do the bush administration have planned in
regard to the middle east?
(NancyL) Terror, I think the Z's are saying, they
will NOT hear at all, as your leadership intends to ditch out to
AU.
(Sirgrim) Red mercury bombs have been in the news alot lately, I think
the US is about to get struck.
(NancyL) Nomis, this is only sabre rattling, a
distraction, and unlikely to go full blown.
(Torbj) Blair and Bush are
pals... so Blair Iīll guess..
(KyleKushman) Would a suicide bomber who claims
to be killing Jews to help save their people be considered STO or
STS?
(NancyL) Okikod, Z's answered this a few weeks back, only Big 5, and
others aware only by rumor.
(RobH) Yeah, anything the zetas have on this red
mercury nuke threat?
(Gerard) Davids: it was answered on time, France,
England, and Germany are in the know in Europe for what I remember?
(NancyL)
Torbj, there are leaks now, just ignored by the news, etc. and Internet will be
THE mode of information flow, yes.
(Spanky) Won't South America be overtaken
by diseases, as it is a rain forest similar to Africa?
(Lebrasse) Big 6 (US,
Russia, UK, Japan, France, Germany)
(DavidS) Thanx, Gerard
(AndrewP) Add
Australia to that!
(NancyL) England for sure, Germany probably, Russia for
SURE, Scandinavia not, I think.
(Jeremy) When will Earth changes
exponentially acceleate to a point that an announcement will be
demanded?
(NancyL) Kirk, just a lot of "the wolf is at the door!" kind of
distraction. Trying to made a new enemy.
(Freax) Hey I live in australia
=P
(JoeyB) Kyle: STO would not bomb anyone. Would try to unite.
(NancyL)
Kyle, a complicated Q and each indiviual may be STO or STS
depending!
(Spanky) France hasn't been a leader for more than half a century.
And russia has descended to 3rd world squalor. Wouldn't Canada and Scandanavia
outrank them?
(Gerard) So in the main, it's up to the citizens of those
countries that can't tell to tell the others about it.. It's up to us
(NancyL) I don't think STS do that kind of thing, though, at ALL.
(NancyL) Only self pleasure measures, and blowing oneself up is not
that.
(S7L) What kind of service-to-self is there
(S7L) Yeah exactly
:-)
(Vinka) Russians? yeah... sure... billboard of "planet of ceramic
tiles"... heh....
(KyleKushman) I figured that, but even if they truly
believe they are doing it for others... Just a thought I've been
pondering
(S7L) Could be some kind of conclusion if it retained honour or
name even if one was dead though
(NancyL) Spanky, they don't have Ebola
naturally, there. in SA
(Spanky) But they probably have ones we don't know
about.
(KyleKushman) Nancy: gotcha, thanx
(NancyL) Jeremey, JFK details
were demanded, and ignored! It's still the single bullet
explanation!
(Jeremy) Thx, but when can we expect things to get really bad?
Early 2003?
(NancyL) There are a couple other Q's, which I'll quickly
address: Will list both.
(NancyL) UN ROLES
(NancyL) 1. Nancy, if the world
govt (united nations) is prepared for PX, are they a threat to the survivors,
since they would likely have weapons and aircraft under Denver,
Colorado?
(NancyL) BUSH LEGACY
(NancyL) 1. Is bush really that
dumb/confused or is it all an act and he is a machiavellian schemer like his
father?
(NancyL) 2. Why is Dick Cheney chosen to lead? Is it because of his
heart condition, that they need someone with nothing to lose? Is it because they
could eliminate him with no questioning at all (artificially induced heart
attack)
(Jeremy) Earth changes are not disrupting daily life yet
(Jeremy)
But they are proceeding
(NancyL) ZT: A prior plan to use the UN to facilitate
survival of the elite in the US and elsewhere has failed.
(NancyL) ZT: This
plan, much the talk of conspiracy buffs, involved placing parklands in the US
into UN hands, and staffing these with soldiers foreign to the US.
(NancyL)
ZT: The logic was that these soldiers would not hesitate to use guns upon US
citizens, or even US solders gone rogue.
(NancyL) ZT: However, they proved
difficult to manage, with many agendas and differing cultures dictating
responses, so those who would be their masters became discouraged.
(NancyL)
ZT: Regarding the elite, and who they pull into their ranks and ally
with.
(NancyL) ZT: In the main, the elite groups ally with those ALREADY in
the know, and who have a track record of being a staunch ally.
(NancyL) ZT:
This is not unlike the decisions each family head will make, when times get
tense.
(Hellsing) What if nothing happens next year
(NancyL) ZT: Whom do
they plan to include in a survival group, and invite?
(NancyL) ZT: Who can
they trust? Who do they know from long experience to be solid, and true to their
word, and reliable?
(Okidok) Hellsing, if so we are blessed and can go on
further with our lives
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, toward the end, those with strengh
are UNLIKLY to ally with strangers, but with those they know.
(Hellsing)
Yay
(Mike Valley) Ashtar rules
(NancyL) ZT: Packing together at the last
minute, among strangers, is more likely to be among the weak, those with no
other choice.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Brian) Does Bush know about
Zeta-talk? Why doesn't he listen to the part about death coming to
STS?
(KyleKushman) Jeremy: not disrupting daily life? US E. Coast is in worst
drought on record...Rockland County is making a decision on filtering water that
comes from the toilets and turning it into drinking water
(Nomis) What if
nothig happens next year?
(NancyL) Brian, Bush is a puppet, and these types
are terribly arrogant!
(NancyL) THEY know best, etc.
(Jeremy) Kyle: I post
these articles on tt-watch. But things are still not that bad yet
(Brian)
Well the people that control him then.
(KyleKushman) Bush is so smug it
pisses me off
(Matt) Last 7 weeks surely will be the real uptick as PX enters
system?
(Matt) Still near dither point
(Thunderoc) In the prairies in
Canada.. wells are drying up... water has to now be trucked in... ground is so
dry it crunchs...
(NancyL) Matt, yes, last 7 weeks will be very interesting
times.
(KyleKushman) When I see him on TV trying to act like a man in power
it disgusts me, he's such a phony
(NancyL) Well, its been an hour, and for me
(as I was such a dummy about daylight savings time), who came early, more than 2
hours.
(Okidok) Brian, Bush is only familiar with topics that can give him
more credits to go on and play the world ruler.
(Matt) He's not even a very
convincing puppet...
(NancyL) So I'm off and away, will put the log up
tomorrow morning as I don't go to work until closer to noon.
(KyleKushman)
Thanx Nancy
(Freax) KyleKushman: actually the view of power is your
perception of it
(AndrewP) Questions have a way of revealing answers. Thanks
Nancy and ZT:)
(Thunderoc) Thank you Nancy and Zeta's!
(NancyL) Thank you
all for attending and providing a good agenda!
(NancyL) By all, and see you
next week if you come :-)
(Gerard) Thank you Nancy and the zetas, it was a
good session
(KyleKushman) Night all
Session Close: Sat Apr 13 18:07:36
2002