Session Start: Sat Apr 20 16:47:51 2002
(NancyL) Just send Jurian and
Gerard the Agenda ...
(Gerard) Brianc: as you know Zetatalk and Troubled
Times are 2 seprate entities
(Zetapal) Torbj you assume we don't,that
presumption,pardon my saying,is slightly offensive and condescending of
you
(BrianC) Yes but they have a similar agenda.
(NancyL) Agenda:
UNCERTAINTIES, i.e. the AGONY of the WAIT!
(Torbj) Before you go to bed...
just tell yourself you will remember your drems when awakening...
(AndrewP) I
read part of wingmakers the other day and that too is similar
(Skeleton)
Zetapal - what do you have to prove ?
(NancyL) In the words of someone who
e-mailed me ...
(NancyL) "I'm sure you understand the absolutely stunning
and significant role you are performing for mankind, which will undoubatedly be
errased in the coming poleshift (if it occurs). But alas, I have nagging
uncertainties and doubts..."
(Matt) Hehe
(AndrewP) What a great agenda
question which I am sure is on everyone's mind :)
(DavidS) This question I
think could come from everyone in this chat now. Very good question!
(BrianC)
I would like to hear some more about you Nancy and how you look at
things.
(NancyL) By the by, one of the shoes about to drop is brushing it's
toe along the floor, but not dropped yet. More later, WHEN it drops.
(Matt)
Won't it be obvious then though?
(NancyL) Actually, I heard from two solid
souls, been around awhile and I know them both fairly well due to long
association.
(Zetapal) Skeleton I have not a thing to prove - don't you find
the same offensive - ie.someone presuming you could learn alot by doing thus and
so?
(NancyL) Both were saying more or less the same thing! It's getting time,
time is close, I need to act or not, so ... make me feel CERTAIN!
(S7L)
Zetapal: it may be curious, but no.
(NancyL) Matt, yes, it will be obvious
but won't be on the news, just within ZetaTalk news, etc.
(S7L) Zetapal: I
see no reason to be offended. Mr. Torbj speaks in a style that has become very
familiar to me, perhaps that is why. He is predictable to 80-90 %.
(Zetapal)
Ok let me say this then...
(Matt) Ok
(BrianC) Nancy, what do you think
about the terrorist warning issued to banks accross America
yesterday?
(Torbj) Is that bad to you?
(NancyL) To IQx, re New York state,
you just had a 5.1 in an area not thought to be a fault line. I still would like
to know what has NOT been addressed, to your satisfaction, in the Safe Locations
writeups the Zetas have done.
(NancyL) BrianC, I didn't realize the
terrorists had issued it.
(S7L) Nancy, IQx is not present.
(S7L) But he
will be forwarded your statement.
(BrianC) No it was the government that
issued it.
(Karen) We are starting at 6 right?
(Jurian) Starting in 15,
whatever time that is for you :-)
(Gerard) Karen: in about 12 minutes from
now
(Skeleton) Zetapal, sorry I didnt mean the question to be a burden...
just figured that one need not be offended even if one thinks you know less. you
don't have to prove it to them.
(Sirgrim) Guess I'll go smoke before we
start
(Karen) That makes 6 thanks
(NancyL) I smile that on Mar 16th or so
the Zetas said Bin Laden was alive and well, and would be heard from soon, and
would soon be back to his activities, hardly unfazed by the temporary
inconvenience in Afganistan.
(Taurusguy) BrianC, April 19 was anniversary of
Waco, OKC, Columbine - all kinds of crazy things happened that day.
(AndrewP)
8 by my watch!
(Torbj) To be predictable.... that means that you can "read
me".... good...
(NancyL) BrianC, that's what I thought! One can always trust
the Bush administration.
(Zetapal) Torbj always has alot of direction and
advice, which is fine... I just think that once in a while Torbj might take the
other view and realize that there is much yet to be learned from many of you...
but always he is in the position of pontificating... this is my attempt at an
adjustment... for HIS benefit, not mine
(DraganR) +US annoucment re: banks =
preparation for rip of
(S7L) Torbj: it would help if you directed your
statements. Basically, I don't understand much of what you say, but it all
sounds basically similar.
(Jurian) Haha, trust the Bush administration
:)
(Matt) Sean david Morton claims to have seen Laden in a bunker on the
Paki/Afgan border...
(Zetapal) and
(Taurusguy) I used to work in Federal
govt, and they always issued "terrorist" warnings around April 19
(Matt) And
he had previously thought Laden was dead..
(NancyL) My son was telling me
that the week before 911, Bush had the Taliban at his place in Texas, dealing to
give Enron an oil deal through Afganistan, and they warned him of a possible 911
attack.
(AndrewP) I notice in the latest video Bin laden has put on
weight.
(NancyL) This was on a late night talk show, someone who wrote a book
about Bush and his scummy and incompetent activities.
(NancyL) I love the
man, poor puppet that he is, as you can tell :-)
(Zetapal) I didn't say I was
offended, I said his presumption was offensive (having that quality)... is this
the way he wishes to come across?
(AndrewP) Yes he is a lovable
Shrub
(Skeleton) Nancy- do you see the warning against US banks as an
indication that the terrorists are still supported by a European interest that
wishes to hurt american interests, like JP Morgan ?
(Zetapal) So then, we all
still love each other?
(NancyL) Skelton, I have not thought it out much. I
think, on thinking NOW (maybe a slight Zeta input) that this is more something
the Bush Admin via intel was warned against, maybe just to play with them, make
them worry, etc.
(Tizza) An interesting note on the lava activity I saw an
article that indicated a new volcano is expected to develop of the SE coast of
Australia....
(AndrewP) We must!
(NancyL) Like the games kids play, to
ring the doorbell of the neighborhood grump, then run into the night as the door
opens.
(Zetapal) Lol
(Zetapal) Thanks Torbj
(AndrewP) Knick Knock we
used to call it
(Tizza) Assumably connected to the currently extinct "Mount
Gambier" line
(NancyL) Tizza, REALLY. The crust is showing distress and
pressure points already.
(Torbj) Thank you to, zetapal1
(NancyL) In
addition to the NASA revelation that NA (Oregon) and SA (Chile) had inactive
volcanoes coming active.
(Tizza) Concidering how little activity we normally
have over here I thought it was quite significant in the context of
things
(Spanky) Where? Canada?
(Canuck) Nancy...there is only one queston
on the agenda?
(NancyL) Tizza, should be quite a year.
(Spanky) Has the
chat ended?
(Liai) Clipper, :) We moving July 5th
(S7L) 4 minutes to the
beginning point.
(NancyL) Cannuck, yes, and if we have time, I will collect
other Q's, but this may be one with endless followup.
(Clipper) Cool beans
:-)
(Liai) very :)
(Tizza) I also understand that the land around Mt Helen
is swelling quite a bit with build up of pressure underneath
(Clipper) This
direction?
(KyleKushman) I'm in NY... anyone out there feel the
quake?
(Bdog) Nancy, could the zetas talk about the Laplace transformations?
(serious question)
(JubJub963) Can you explain with 90% dieoff how the
internet will be functional, I mean , that'll be the least of people's
concerns.
(Spanky) Would flying UFOs around the time of the pole shift by
aliens motivate humans to blame them? Will the STS use this as an
opportunity?
(Gerard) Spanky: it still has to start, the session
(Canuck)
Quake felt in S. Ontario
(Liai) You bet, were going home
(Zetapal) On Art
Bell's show last week he came on talking about the temperature inversion they
had experienced in Parhump NV. The temps were running around 100 deg and then
they dropped 3o deg in 3 hours....
(NancyL) Tizza, I take all this very
seriously especially as Scallion, (a real gifted person re quake predictions)
has one out for Cal re an 8.0, northern Cal I think Eureka.
(Clipper) Good
for you. I will try to get rid of this snow before you get here :-)
(S7L)
Spanky: should be disallowed according to the rules; would correspond to
breaking the quarantine.
(NancyL) Bdog, what the heck is a Laplace
tx?
(Spanky) STS can still answer the STS call
(Liai) Hehe, doesnt matter,
I'll love it all
(Karen) That's right on Scallion
(S7L) NancyL: laplace
transformation probably
(Bdog) Sorry, not on agenda
(BrianC) Nancy, any
Q's on Agenda to do with the little decisions we make in our everyday
lives?
(Zetapal) 85mph wind followed... downed power lines... sandblasted
cars... homes wind damaged... a real mess
(S7L) Oh, sorry, I missed the
question.
(S7L) I thought Bdog used the literal term 'laplace
tx'
(DraganR) US and Canada contein only 5% 0f global population
(Clipper)
We'll do lunch some day
(NancyL) Jubjub, with SOME of the 10% left, with
Short Wave only, and Zeta assistance between STO groups (and I expect static to
the STS hubs)
(Karen) Nancy has the other shoe dropped yet?
(Tizza) When
did Scallion call this 8.0 for Cal?
(JubJub963) Thanks
(Karen) Website for
Scallion www.matrixinstitute.com
(NancyL) BrianC, no and I'll repost the
Agenda now, and start.
(Liai) Definately , we will be 2500 miles
closer.
(Gerard) Some minor rules for during the session: no chatter when the
Zetas are giving the answer, wait with asking follow up questions until the
question is answered...
(NancyL) Karen, no shoe, just a shoe hovering!!!
(for real)
(Karen) Hummmm
(BrianC) Bdog: that is an advanced calculus
method...
(NancyL) The AGONY of the WAIT & UNCERTAINTIES
(NancyL) 1.
can't you provide some PROOF, more than you have, that PX exists or that ZT is
right or whatever because
(NancyL) a) I'm having problems convincing folks
and
(NancyL) b) I'm anxious and wondering which way I should jump
(NancyL) c) If a pole shift happens as you describe this is a VERY big deal
and the time is short, etc.
(NancyL) ZT: In the early days of ZetaTalk, it
was a curiosity to most, and for those with personal visions similar to what was
being reported, a touchstone.
(NancyL) ZT: Contactees, who had learned
through their visits of the coming cataclysms, were gripped by the
correlations.
(NancyL) ZT: Others, serious thinkers and students of prior
earth changes, found the net of logic encompassing the holes in human
theories.
(NancyL) ZT: Those who knew that ZetaTalk had a factual basis,
those with MJ12 connections, were horrified that a message they understood was
to be completely suppressed and debunked was getting out.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus,
in the early days, ZetaTalk had friends and enemies, both highly emotional, with
the majority of the audience curious.
(NancyL) ZT: Few were willing or
thought it necessary to make major changes in their lives, given that the
message had a clear end date of May 15, 2003 or shortly thereafter, and had many
predictions leading UP to that date that either would or would not be validated.
(NancyL) ZT: The questions flowing into the ZetaTalk Question Queue in the
early days revolved around human nature, existing UFOlogy legends, with the
minority revolving around the possibility of a pole shift and life
afterwards.
(NancyL) ZT: Nancy, today, still gets requests that encompassed
the preponderance of the Question Queue in the early days of ZetaTalk, 1995 and
on, but the weight of the requests for Zeta input now surround the pole shift
and life afterwards issue.
(Thunderoc) Is the sesion on today?
(Clipper)
Yes, stand by
(Gerard) Yes, started some 7 minuts ago..
(Thunderoc) Ok
:o)
(NancyL) ZT: Given that the final year could see changes that would
REQUIRE the audience to act, many are now looking for certainty. What types of
issues are envisioned, that the Question Queue is now being hammered with
requests for signs that would satisfy CERTAINTY?
(OldSoul) Nancy, is it true
that the only real safe places in North America are inland, both the East and
West Coasts will be flooded.
(NancyL) ZT: 1. Earthquakes could devastate
areas, beyond what the insurance companies could compensate for, requiring
decisions on the spot as to relocation or life changes.
(S7L) Oldsoul: well
covered by existing zetatalk. see ocean sloshing on the poleshift
section.
(NancyL) ZT: 2. Storms, clusters of tornadoes or mega-hurricanes
would likewise wipe out more than a suburb or small town, but whole cities,
creating a similar instant need for life change decisions.
(NancyL) ZT: 3.
Rising seas, and erratic tides, could make the coastlines a risky place to live,
to say nothing of wiping out commercial or residential establishments along the
coasts, likewise requiring a decision on a life change.
(KeyBoardz) Would PX
have played a larger factor in today's 5.5 quake than the planetary
alignment?
(NancyL) ZT: 4. The deepening worldwide economic depression,
called now only a recession, will increasingly cause families to find themselves
without hope in their home area, with decision time once again on the
table.
(NancyL) ZT: 5. Toward the end of 2002, as the inbound planet can no
longer be denied by any but NASA and the major media, talked about by almost
every other element spreading news, those aware of the coming shift, if only in
theory, will feel anxious even if secure otherwise.
(NancyL) ZT: 6. The
economic crash predicted to occur when the tenuous banking system and Stock
Market, based on false values, crumbles, will create a need in the otherwise
comfortable to made changes, and once again they will be faced with choices that
include or NOT the pole shift possibility.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, many cast about
for CERTAINTY, to assist them in their decisions, which are of great import in
their lives.
(NancyL) ZT: Who can they look to, for answers?
(NancyL) ZT:
1. The church, which preaches Armaghedon, but does not give a date, and states
that clinging to the doctrin and being one of the faithful will save the
faithful in a rapture. However, even firm believers feel nervous about this,
though they admit this little.
(NancyL) ZT: 2. The governments, which will
become increasingly tight lipped as this year passes, doors shut, no comment,
and can be expected only to follow their current line of revelation, which is
close to nil.
(NancyL) ZT: 3. Scientists, who argue among themselves in any
case, and deal with contradictions to the current theory by shouting the
contradiction DOWN and refusing to put the contradicting parts
together.
(NancyL) ZT: If they cannot resolve the arguments about Global
Warming, they can hardly be expected to resolve, in 2002, the arguments pro and
con a possible pole shift.
(NancyL) ZT: 4. Major Media, which may surprise
mankind in coming forth with real documentaries and exposés that would lead the
common man to at least CONSIDER the possibilities, in the context of discussing
"mysteries" or "possibilities" and having talk shows.
(NancyL) ZT: But in
that major media are owned by few, and tightly controlled in the main, this can
turn either way, occurring or NOT, depending upon human motives and decisions,
being in the hands of man.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, there is only one source of
stunningly accurate predictions related to the current changes - ZetaTalk.
(NancyL) ZT: Having predicted the current weather changes, the current
increase in volcanism and earthquakes, the current economic and crop shortage
problems, to say nothing of the LOCATION of the inbound planet - ZetaTalk stands
out as a source of CERTAINTY, or so it is hoped.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, when
seeking certainty, the anxious hammer at Nancy, as the only source listening and
responding.
(NancyL) ZT: Can she provide more certainty than she is doing
today? No, as the factors in place from the beginning of ZetaTalk are still
there today.
(NancyL) ZT: 1. We, as the source of this information, can only
respond to questions considered to be The Call, and cannot for instance give
warnings of coming storms or quakes, though we can address IN GENERAL the likely
earth changes.
(NancyL) ZT: To do otherwise, as we have explained, is to
interfer with the free will of man, which the Rule of Non-Interference
limits.
(NancyL) ZT: The pole shift, and all change leading up to it, are
considered a normal terrestrial occurence not unlike tornadoes or cancer or
droughts. YOU, as mankind, are to help each other, learn how to do so, during
these tribulations.
(NancyL) ZT: 2. We, and Nancy, cannot force the
governments of the world to issue forth information, or force those thinking
just of themselves to suddenly become caring.
(NancyL) ZT: If you don't like
the current level of truthfulness from your governments or scientists, then
address your frustration to THEM, not ourselves or Nancy.
(NancyL) ZT: 3.
Nancy is working to the extent an aging woman, of retirement age and with many
health problems not even considered by her audience, without funds, without
physical assistance, and simply CANNOT become mama to the anxious
world!
(NancyL) ZT: Few of those hammering on her for certainty, or to do
MORE, would deal with her situation for an instant.
(NancyL) ZT: Beyond the
unreasonablness of their demands, there is the physical impossibility of her
doing MORE.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the issue falls to the audience, what THEY
must do for themSELVES.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup (this is long so I'm
breaking but we will continue after followup period).
(Torbj) Argentina is
closing their banking system´s now.... will there be a "soon
follover"...
(NancyL) Torbj, all banking systems, and markets, will fail
falling to 25% of their current worth, per the Z's.
(BrianC) ... An audience
consisting of 73 people at this moment.
(Matt) Is a financial crash likely
this year or near the passage?
(NancyL) I suspect Argentina is just the
leading edge, and won't get back up.
(Thunderoc) If we = individuals, were to
give the call allowing 'interferance'... would the STS's also then have that
'right' or opportunity to 'interfere.. will those STS aliens be 'out and about'
during the shift and after?
(NancyL) BrianC, not everyone joins the chat,
many read after :-)
(S7L) Thunderoc: it should depend on the nature of the
call.
(Skeleton) What will be the straw to break the camel's back, in hiding
the crash, if the companies and governments are already so well practiced in the
art of deception?
(Torbj) The dollar is "skyhigh" in that country
now....
(HBO) People seeking assurance of earth changes should look at the
postings on IQx's site, where there are many articles of things occuring around
the world, including volcanic activity, Himalayan lakes swelling, African magma
rift separating continent, etc., etc.
(NancyL) Thunder, yes, STS answer The
Call, now and after the shift, so be wary of WHO you call!
(NancyL) Selfish
call gets an STS response!
(Torbj) I wonder where the dollar is going to be
"skyhigh" next...
(RobH) What is a likely time frame to realistically look at
for those who are willing NOW to change in lifestyle but cannot due to lack of
so called 'certainty'? 6 months, or just the few weeks prior?
(NancyL) OK,
going to the 2nd part of Q...
(S7L) HBO: I should note thought that not every
volcanic, weather, earthquake, etc. event can be considered evidence. It does
seem like earthquake activity has been high but 2002 has been a very quiet year
earthquake-wise, nothing like 2001, according to my very minor research on this,
for instance
(NancyL) 2. I'm anxious so I want to ask
(NancyL) a) Are you
sure that my location will be flooded during the hour of the shift? Did you mean
what you said?
(NancyL) b) I know you're busy but I really need to know if
I'm STO and will be saved during the shift. I know you said no personal
counseling, but this is IMPORTANT TO ME!
(NancyL) c) Ok, I live across the
river from X, which you commented upon, but can you comment on our side of the
river? Specifically Y Street, where I live. Will this be safe? Can I hide in the
basement?
(NancyL) ZT: Anxious people do NOT carefully read what has been
written, then are primed by the biological imperative that flight or fight is
designed to meet to ACT.
(Gerard) Okay folks hush now... second part of the
question is being answered.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, when faced by the actual
possibility of a pole shift, tidal waves, crumbled cities, lack of food, and no
help from the government, they PANIC.
(NancyL) ZT: Given that ZetaTalk has
proven to be the only source of solid and well considered information on WHAT to
do, and in this we are including the Troubled Times network of solution sets and
the nonprofit which seeks to provide this information to mankind, their action
drives like a spear against ZetaTalk and Troubled Times.
(NancyL) ZT: Nancy
finds she lately has been grateful for the foresight that developed Troubled
Times and the hip-pocket booklet that the nonprofit has developed.
(NancyL)
ZT: The over 100 Troubled Times TOPICs and TEAMs that have developed allow the
anxious to be pointed to reading material SPECIFIC to their
concerns.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, they have SOMETHING they can do, and the
adrenalin that flight or fight has dictated is dissipated into purposeful
activity.
(NancyL) ZT: Will this trend diminish, or change, going into the
shift?
(NancyL) ZT: It will only increase, until e-mail queues sorting out
the REAL questions from those seeking information readily available, if only one
would take a web site click or two, may be necessary.
(NancyL) ZT: In time,
Internet service will become disrupted to the point where mail is not
necessarily delivered and bounced only because of delays, and web sites are
inaccessible to many due to satellite down time.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, an
important support step for those wanting to help is to create mirror sites, of
that information the ZetaTalk and Troubled Times sites offer.
(NancyL) ZT:
Many mirror sites already exist, in point of fact, for instance where translated
material has been made available within countries speaking the
language.
(NancyL) ZT: But it is a bit late, when the satellites start
malfunctioning, to seek to set this up!
(NancyL) ZT: In that acting as a
traffic cop, directing the anxious to this or that information, could be done by
MANYindividuals, we also recomment that this be structured before the
flood.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(NancyL) Don't everyone talk at once
:-)
(Torbj) This sounds like trafficing within the specific
country....
(Canuck) How about a tt-help page specifically for
questions?
(Torbj) Where you live and act...
(Kirk) Is there a
forum?
(Clipper) Interesting
(JubJub963) Somebody should set up a ubb
forum + website , the Yahoo forums kinda suck
(NancyL) Canuck, I've had
suggestions for more FAQ and all manner, but the fact is that they would only
have to take 2-3 clicks from ZT home page to get to the Hub of TT, and they
don't DO this!
(NancyL) They don't even take the 1st click, to the TT home
page!
(Zetapal) Yup
(Samsara2003) How soon before the shift will satellite
failure become obvious to everyone?
(RobH) There is the tt channel here on
IRC, that may be a start? Although not mainly accesible to all.
(NancyL) They
don't even READ the Safe Locations descriptions for their country and state and
city that already exist!
(BrianC) How big is the Zeta-Talk web page? How many
Megs I mean.
(Kirk) I think the TT link should be explained and
clearer.
(Canuck) How about more prominently.."for HELP..Go
HERE"?
(MadMax) The TT link should be more prominent and there should be an
explanation of what is found there.
(NancyL) ZT: They read one page, not all,
and then ask "did you really mean this?" !!!
(Torbj) First your cellphone...
then your satelite television
(NancyL) Kirk, TT has mailing lists for
discussion, but the anxious are not interested, they want ANSWERS
NOW!!!
(Gerard) Besides the web of course, there are also other ways to bring
out the message. So besides talking to each in real life.. which other ways will
there be in the time of the satellite failures and so?
(RobH) Brian - its
about 30 megs or so with troubled times
(S7L) BrianC: a mirror is 100 MB
currently.
(KyleKushman) Whats going to stop those in power from just keeping
the same systems in place and making sure the little guy is kept
oppressed.
(Fdsa564) When and why will satelites fail.
(Jurian) Yeah,
that's what I thought
(NancyL) Samsara, this depends but I gather (input from
Zetas here) in about 4 months we may see increasing problems.
(BrianC) Ok,
thanks.
(KyleKushman) Post-shift I mean
(HBO) Nancy: I've searched the TT
Health section but don't find any suggestions for medical conditions that
require pharmaceutical medicines to sustain life. Since drug stores won't be
open, any suggestions?
(NancyL) IRC, I think, is a GOOD way to go! Old
techonolgy, easy to get, and maybe MORE than Sundays only!
(NancyL) BrianC,
the whole ZT/TT web site is between 50-100 MB, not huge.
(Jurian) The
Troubled Times channel is ALWAYS open!!
(Gerard) The #Troubled_Times channel
is open every day.
(Canuck) HBO have you tried herbalists sites?
(Jurian)
Feel free to pop in at any time :-)
(RobH) Yes and its a reliable network
with many points to route through, very fault tolerant
(NancyL) Canuck, if I
had to put a new entry into my menu, on ZT home page, HELP! would be it :-).
Then they get to an IRC channel where someone else talks to them :-)
(Mary)
HBO: we're just out of luck! unless a natural product is available. In my case
it isn't.
(HBO) Canuck: yes, but insulin for a dead pacreas isn't among
them
(Clipper) Research now
(Tizza) Jurian: I do but never seems to be
anyone there.
(Jurian) Hmm, never seen you in there.
(Canuck) Edgar Cayce
said use Jerusalem artichokes for diabetes
(Torbj) HBO....be glad the
pharmacepticals will not function.... if you live thru this... and you will....
you will not need it
(NancyL) HBO, yes, those really needing drugs, like
insulin, to LIVE, will die. However, type 2 diabetis may improve when we starve,
from what I read :-)
(Tizza) Jurian : #troubledtimes is right
yes?
(Jurian) No, #troubled_times
(RobH) Those of us familiar with ZT who
have read it over should spend more time in tt channel helping and answering
questions ...
(Gerard) What more can be done, besides putting up mirrors, as
there will be a time that even those mirrors could stop working?
(NancyL)
Jurian, I didn't know that! 24 by 7? Are we giving this prominance
enough?
(Tizza) Ah!!! Ok that would be why!
(BrianC) There is indeed other
creative ways we could get the word out.
(NancyL) Should we be pointing to
this more up front?
(Zetapal) People have to do their own homework even if
they clamour for a savior or someone to serve them, I don't know what else can
be done to save people from their own conditioning, the signs of control have
been with us for years but people are maleable and go along, that can't be
helped.
(Jurian) NancyL: its open 24/7, and it wouldn't hurt if people were
told this :-)
(Canuck) Nancy, were you kidding when you said you could add
HELP link? I think it's a good idea!
(Gerard) Jurian: I agree with that ...
(NancyL) Maybe we need caretakers for the TT channel, volunteers so SOMEONE
is sitting there at all times?
(Jurian) There are usually a few people
there
(NancyL) You know, one can knit or read or write letters or whatever
WHILE waiting for someone to arrive and say "hello?"
(RobH) Thats what I was
thinking a schedule of some sort to help with the channel maybe?
(JubJub963)
Is there a FAQ, there really should be.
(RedD2go) But they have to be "alive"
too ;)
(JubJub963) For newbies
(Jurian) In any case, the robots are there
so it is never really deserted :)
(Gerard) Jurian: but they don't say a word
:)
(NancyL) Whose going to volunteer to coordinate the caretakers/waiting
for newcomers list? Times and dates or whatever?
(Jurian) Well, no
:)
(NancyL) (Not me, I've got too much already)
(Karen) I will
volunteer
(BrianC) Good idea Nancy, someone who has read
Zeta-Talk.
(Karen) What qualifies
(BrianC) But how are you going to tell
who knows what?
(NancyL) Canuak, I'd point to the IRC channel! If it were
staffed, then it's a GO! Great idea!
(S7L) Karen: a friendly attitude :)
there are no real qualifications, I hazard.
(Karen) Caretaker not
coordinator
(NancyL) Or, we could say, someone will be guaranteed to be there
from x to x times, etc. so they would come back if no one there!
(Canuck)
Let's let people volunteer... if they don't know the answers now, they will
after they've looked it up for others.
(BrianC) You got another
volunteer!
(RobH) I for one will be in there when I can at night, once can
just leave the window open and see who shows up....
(Mary) People could post
on social and watch when they will be there.
(NancyL) Gerard, they say
"hello" when they arrive, do they not? We can actually tell them they SHOULD, in
the HELP! link.
(Clipper) Social only please
(S7L) There is a high chance
of meeting someone at least. After all, there is nearly always someone else when
I happen to be around.
(RobH) Thats a great place to set this up I think - TT
lists
(Thunderoc) Also self help search engines more prominant of the site..
also bigger tying in links on the left side of home page.. (unlegable almost to
webtv,interactive rogers etc..
(Canuck) Should be linked off tt-lists as well
as Zetatalk
(NancyL) Many read the chat later, and are very solid
folk.
(BrianC) But really, answers to specific questions can usually be found
using the search link from Zeta-Talk.
(Jurian) There is almost always someone
during European day-time.. could use some Americans and Australians tho
:-)
(Gerard) Nancy: you mean in the channel is that what you
mean?
(NancyL) I find that 95% of the panic is quickly settled by pointing to
existing TOPICs in TT or where the Safe Location TOPIC is in Info.
(Gerard)
Jurian: indeed...
(Clipper) See ..... Americans are useful :-)
(NancyL)
They they go off and read!
(S7L) Nah, those Australians are boring. I think
we want more input from outer space.
(Canuck) Jurian...will Canadians
do?
(Jurian) Sure!! :)
(Canuck) :-))
(NancyL) The TOPICs are actually
very pointed in here's how this will help during hte shift or
afterwards.
(Torbj) This is STO!
(Jurian) I was just pointing in very
general directions :p
(NancyL) BrianC, you'd be amazed, they don't even SEE
the "Search" link, it appears, just the "Contact Nancy" link.
(Canuck) Nancy,
I think that is their panic doing that.
(Gerard) That the troubled times
channel will be more used, it's there to be used for chatting, to answer
questions etc. Time is closing up, and it's a good place for it the channel that
is
(Canuck) If they had a large, flashing HELP AVAILABLE button....they'd go
there
(RedD2go) we all want to be spoon feed... thinking takes energy and
work
(NancyL) Gerard, yes, if we direct folks via a HELP! button in the ZT
menu and TT hub, we should have a page with simple IRC instructions, including
please say "hello" when entering the room so someone knows an arrival has
arrived.
(Canuck) Canada rocks!!!
(S7L) Canuck: a place that rocks during
the pole shift might not be one of the nicest places to be.
(Torbj) That´s
true red
(Tizza) S7L : were you looking for a bite there?? :)
(Thunderoc)
Is there any formal coordination going on for survival groups?
(S7L) Tizza: a
bite where?
(NancyL) I used to see (and still think the nonprofit Sun server
may do this) such chats ongoing, per TEAM, or interest area, very much used
toward the end.
(Tizza) Aussies boring :):)
(NancyL) Brainstorming
problems, relaying information to newcomers, whatever.
(Canuck) Canadians can
roll pretty well too :-)
(S7L) Oh, just my sarcasm. I mean, why go all the
way through the globe, so much rock in between and all that. Why not go upwards
instead?
(Jurian) Lol
(NancyL) Canuck, you should have said "Canada IS a
rock!"
(KeyBoardz) I wonder if today's 5.5 quake (felt here in Toronto) was
caused more by PX or the planetary alignment?
(Jurian) Hahaha
(Torbj) When
the spoon is not coming in the time we expect.... we get anxious
(RobH) 4
months is not a long time maybe we should start a mirror network many people
like me have a cable modem or DSL that can quickly be set up to be a server with
limited bandwith... should discuss this more on the tt lists maybe??
(Canuck)
That's true, big parts of it anyway.
(Canuck) Some Canadians here don't know
about tt-canada??
(Gerard) A hello could help, as some just join without
saying a thing. As even when you see the join it doesn't mean that someone would
be actualy saying something..
(Clipper) Thunderroc:
http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam152.htm
(NancyL) KeyBoard, have you
noticed how much adjustments are being made already? Oregon and Chilli inactive
volcanoes heating up, and African Rift pulling apart, and Black Water from
pulling apart in the Carribean, etc.?
(Jurian) Heh, if we do setup a mirror
network, I think it'd be easiest if people would just download bzip2'd copies of
the entire site, instead of mirroring it every time, saves shitloads of
bandwidth
(S7L) And time.
(Jurian) Yeah
(Thunderoc) Thank you Clipper!
:o)
(Canuck) Jurian, that is greek to me..but I'm sure others
understand?
(Clipper) Welcome:-)
(NancyL) Jurian, yes, where could we post
this kind of info?
(S7L) Most clients for mirroring are single-threaded and
download files sequentially
(S7L) Ugh.
(NancyL) Well, its been an hour and
I'm going to go.
(RobH) Right TT has a section on mirroring I've
seen
(S7L) (Which is good considering the poor bandwidth limitations of the
host but using 2 threads, or some event-driven downloading would certainly
improve things)
(NancyL) Bye bye and THANKS for all your good ideas!
Session Close: Sat Apr 20 18:08:25 2002