Session Start: Sat Apr 06 15:53:20 2002
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(Torbj) You can be a saint and be
sts....
(TerrorDactyl) thats rubbish torbj
(Gerard) Helllo Nancy
(NancyL) Just mailed the Agenda to Jurian and Gerard ..
(Bob) ...except
in their frequency of late
(Longint) Hi Nancy
(DavidS) Nancy, I C you have
been active on SCI.ASTRO today...:-)
(Torbj) In your eyes right noe,
terror....
(NancyL) SteveH, I did a multi-posting on sci.astro this AM, not
scientific but psychology and morals.
(TerrorDactyl) How can a murderer by
STO then torbj - explain
(NancyL) Like, if one has strong confirmation that
PX and PS are real, then to NOT warn people is unconscionable.
(Canuck) Is
this the case, Nancy?
(NancyL) Like, NASA and their Good 'Ol Boy network are
NOT thinking of others, but allowing themselves easy living until the last
minute.
(TerrorDactyl) Nancy why do you post on sci.astro - they say you are
a kook and a nutcase
(Zetapal) When in Rome...
(NancyL) Like, being the
Messenger, I have 2 choices: 1. give in to the harrassment and live a
comfortable life, keeping info to myself, 2. do what I'm doing and be broke,
harassed, threatened, etc. and be doing the right thing :-)
(SteveH) Hi
Nancy, yes I saw, very nice!
(TerrorDactyl) Dont MJ12 finance you?
(Torbj)
Follow your stomach! *smile*
(NancyL) DavidS, web wrapped one of your posts,
and one of Wendy's too. Very well stated on not being a brain dead follower,
etc.
(Gerard) Nancy: good postings Nancy
(S7L) Hello
IMO!
(TerrorDactyl) Nancy - do the new MJ12 finance you and support your
work?
(NancyL) Terror, sci.astro is read by thousands of astronomers and
others, scientists, and those who "get it" don't necessarily post. Impossible
for the establishment to stop info via that route.
(Cool007) NancyL, do you
read private?:)
(NancyL) Terror, dream on. MJ12 had no money, and the new
MJ12 has less.
(TerrorDactyl) Who is on the new MJ12?
(NancyL) Why do you
think the CIA ran so much drugs into the US, creating the problem in the US of
drug addiction, other than to FINANCE MJ12.
(NancyL) This was their excuse,
but of course they all benefitted on the side, slime that they are.
(Zetapal)
Kiss and tell?
(NancyL) Cool, NO, no private or personal counseling no way.
No time. Not since 1997.
(NancyL) Oh, I think it was 1996!
(TerrorDactyl)
Could you give us a name of a person on MJ12 please?
(Zetapal)
Why?
(NancyL) Terror, you've NOT read any of the Government section, and I'll
not respond to you unless you've done your homework.
(Torbj) Terror...why do
your wife laugh at yu?
(TerrorDactyl) I know you said that you wont, but
could you just say if any of the members are non US citizens
(NancyL) The
Agenda is not large today, as the only Q I accepted was from Kiko, who set me to
thinking all week and I broke the Q up into 3 parts.
(Geobyte) NancyL why
nobody from MJ12 did nothing to stop this server and the zeta's site
(DraganR) What is the agenda for today ?
(Sirgrim) MJ12 is STS
now
(NancyL) Terror, as I said, I will NOT respond to you, as you've not done
your homework. Last response to you. Period.
(Sirgrim) Er, STO
(Sirgrim)
Too much natural medicine for me today
(Torbj) Todays agenda ...Terrors
wife!
(TerrorDactyl) Lol
(Gerard) Another thing that this channel is not
sci.astro follow up questions have to be related to the answer given, an related
to the agenda. Just don't disrupt with irrelevant questions please
(NancyL)
Sirgrim, MJ12 became majority STO over time, due to serious nature of the work,
but Bush/Cheney would have tried STS maneuvers, thus MJ12 committed
suicide.
(NancyL) POLE SHIFT PSYCHOLOGY
(NancyL) 1. The Zetas said that
the ability to survive through the PS is also dependent on the psychological
component of humans, not only on the physical side. People with less options but
with a perspective may actually fare better than those stuffed with lots of
stuff, but with no perspective. Whenever I talk to people, they always come out
with the questions like why survive if there's nothing to live for after PS.
(NancyL) 2. With this in mind, I was thinking of a way to give people a
perspective. Namely, people need a good hint at a society, functioning without
money, in a free, democratic way - a hint toward an alien civilisation. A hint
that real "comunism" is in fact possible, not something that collapsed a few
years ago. If the hint is good enough, many people may switch from their current
thinking of PS as a catastrophy toward thinking of PS as a chance to make a step
forward.
(NancyL) 3. When people want to broaden their horizons, one of the
options are various travel channels - they show you how people live on the other
side of the Earth. Such travel shows are actually quite popular. You visited
their Gobi desert base, been introduced to alien forms, etc. You are already
writing about that. Why not visit them next time with a low cost, low resolution
digital photo equipment and make a good "travel story" . People would read,
watch photos and say "Woa, they live without money and look how advanced they
are. If they could have done this even if they destroyed their planet, so can we
live through PS."
(NancyL) Basically, these Q are about how to motivate
people to struggle with the PS issues, life afterwards, etc.
(Bailey) I have
no sound, is anyone talking?
(NancyL) I'm also looking for an unexpected
visitor tonight, who if he arrives will get a lot of attention from me, but no
sign yet.
(Bob) Good questions! EVERYBODY I've talked to about this has said
"why would you WANT to live through that?"
(S7L) Funnily, no-one I have ever
talked to has had such question at all.
(TerrorDactyl) Nancy, have you heard
of Robert Shapiro and his communications with the zetas
(Geobyte) NancyL why
nobody from MJ12 did nothing to stop this server and the zeta's site.
(NancyL) Bob, my immediate reaction was, if they say that, then they are not
STO, as a strong STO thinks, right off, that they should survive to help
others.
(NancyL) But then I got to thinking that this is maybe just talk,
first reaction, not actual actions or reactions to problems presented, so one
should not judge too quickly, etc.
(NancyL) OK, the hour is here, so ZT in
answer to Q1.
(DavidS) NancyL - who is the unexpected visitor?:-)
(Bob)
That's true. Some have returned w/ questions about what to do.
(Gerard) Hush
now ... :)
(NancyL) ZT: A common reaction among humans when first
contemplating the pole shift as presented by us, is to think that the better
option is to go out with the tidal waves, go down under quake debris, or be
blown against a wall by high winds and have it all over with
quickly.
(NancyL) ZT: We present a scenario of stuggle to survive in the
first place, with travel and terror and living a dual life of uncertainty due to
the establishment cover-up.
(NancyL) ZT: Getting past that as a short term
problem, the larger problem looms like a dark cloud. Life in the Aftertime is
fraught with dying forests, lack of livestock or flocks or wildlife to eat, and
gardens that will not flourish.
(NancyL) ZT: Add to this the description of a
Mad Max world, where a set of laws and a governing body will be nonexistent or
turned toward self-service, marauding gangs and the need to live forever in a
low-profile mode to survive.
(NancyL) ZT: Then the time frame of a 25 years
volcanic gloom, with climate change requiring vegetation to adjust as well as
try to re-grow, and it seems a LONG way off before one can sit on the poarch in
the evening, enjoying the evening.
(NancyL) ZT: Those with children despair
that they will be educated, will live to adulthood without health problems
besetting them, rotting teeth, painful disease, only to find they are bearing
offspring into a world that is a nightmare.
(NancyL) ZT: Those in poor health
envision that they will become a burden on others, fear this will occur in slow
steps so they will be unaware of it, perhaps senile or comatose due to
starvation, and unable to control their life at all.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, there
are HUGE worries to anyone taking the message semi-seriously, and the first
though is that this is a nightmare to be avoided.
(NancyL) ZT: So, given
this perspective, what IS there to live for?
(NancyL) ZT: Those strongly in
the STO have no problem with this scenario, as they quickly sort out what life
for OTHERS will be, and make their decisions accordingly.
(NancyL) ZT: This
is no different than what they experience during everyday today. They may be
told they have cancer, but consider who is dependent upon them and plot their
life accordingly.
(NancyL) ZT: They may be told someone in the family or a
neighbor is going to fall on hard times, and adjust their own lifestyle downward
to take them in and share what they have.
(NancyL) ZT: They may be told
someone nearby has defaulted on their responsibilities, and step in without
hesitation to fill the gap, being a father to fatherless children or
whatever.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, those strongly STO would not be likely to utter
a phrase such as "why live?" as they KNOW why troubled times in particular
REQUIRE one to be there for others.
(NancyL) ZT: Those strongly STS sort this
out in a similar manner, but in the other direction.
(NancyL) ZT: As with
their everyday decisions, they look over the situation to see how it might be
taken advantage of for their own pleasure or power position.
(NancyL) ZT:
Since victims can be presented at any time, they assume MANY victims and looting
and plungering and savaging potential galore in a post pole shift
situation.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, those highly STS will also not be likely to say
"why live?" as they are licking their chops and rubbing their hands
together.
(NancyL) ZT: The undecided are the ones likely to make the
statement, "why live?" as they do not polarize in either direction, but rather
think of their OWN life, and how they interact on a daily basis with other, or
what they have come to expect as their daily fare.
(NancyL) ZT: The focus is
the self, but as a child focuses on the self. How will this affect ME, what will
I do when presented with this or that without the resources I've come to expect
will be available to ME.
(NancyL) ZT: The immature spirit pushes the post
pole shift scenario out only so far, to the edges of the cocoon they see their
life as, and see this cocoon NOT THERE.
(NancyL) ZT: The job will be gone,
friends and family may die or wander off, the store shelves empty, the
government offices simply not staffed, and whom do they go to with their
complaints?
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, it is the immature, the undecided, who will
present leaders in the Aftertime with motivation problems.
(NancyL) End ZT on
Q1 and will continue with motivation when doing Q2. Followup?
(Jubjub963) How
does one deal with STS people who come and try to take your groups'
food/possessions or join up with your group?
(Torbj) Thanx!
(Bob) Wow.
Insightful.
(TerrorDactyl) What about the people whose spirits will
disintigrate after death, they are caught between the devil and the deep blue
see - either annihilation or a life of misey in the aftertime.
(Sirgrim)
Nicely said
(Longint) As we can read in the transformation activities topic
(t36), that one of the key points of the Transformation is that the people
should find each other. Can the Zetas give some clues how to do that, to find
similar thinking people more easily.
(NancyL) ZT to Jubjub: STS are best
dealt with in an avoidance mode, by keeping a low profile.
(Torbj) Love
them!
(IMO) Nancy, how can you claim I imaged your planet when the objects
you have circled were there years ago? That's STN, not STO!
(Sirgrim) Does
every human have a soul?
(Gerard) IMO: this is NOT sci.astro
(NancyL) ZT:
Should you find yourself face-to-face with them, this is no different than a
situation in your world today, being mugged or raped or intimidated.
(DavidS)
IMO was the unexpected guy, Gerard...as Nancy said:-)
(NancyL) ZT: Our
suggestions have been to see your BEST asset as your knowledge, as this cannot
be taken from you.
(Torbj) STS canīt cope with real love pointing at
them...it will make them want to go away!
(NancyL) ZT: STS will not lift and
take seed or fishlings from you, but run off with portable and immediately
useable supplies.
(Gerard) No chatter during the answer please, and no
questions that are not related to the agenda
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, having LESS
in supplies, and growing only what you need as you need it, is the best
approach.
(NancyL) ZT: The STS will leave you, going elsewhere for better
looting, or perhaps not even bother you at all.
(RC) Torbj you need to face
reality
(NancyL) End ZT to JubJub.
(Geobyte) Izrudi
(Torbj) Tell me
RC
(NancyL) ZT to Long: Those who are contactees or listening to their
knowledgable souls, will be guided to others of like mind long before the pole
shift, and certainly afterwards.
(Canuck) But to grow what you need as
needed, one needs to stockpile quite a few seeds
(strcpy) Sichki sa
oligofreni no i te ne go znaqt qvno
(RC) You'll be taken like
sheep
(NancyL) ZT: As Nancy frequently said, "listen to your gut", as
hunches, strong hunches, are often the strongest clue that something OTHER than
what is before you is in your databanks.
(NancyL) End ZT to
Long.
(Longint) How do those so called accidents function that we all
experience in our life?
(Gerard) I agree on that, about the gut feelings .
(NancyL) IMO, I see TWO stars there, a small on in your image that indeed
was there all along, and a large one just UNDER this that is NEW, but not there
on 1/19.
(NancyL) I'm not alone in that take, as many have written me to say
that they see this, as obvious.
(DavidS) NancyL - IMO was this unexpected
guy?
(NancyL) No IMO is not the expected guy, no.
(Chevy) What is the
topic ??
(NancyL) OK, onto the Q2 part...
(NancyL) 2. With this in mind, I
was thinking of a way to give people a perspective. Namely, people need a good
hint at a society, functioning without money, in a free, democratic way - a hint
toward an alien civilisation. A hint that real "comunism" is in fact possible,
not something that collapsed a few years ago. If the hint is good enough, many
people may switch from their current thinking of PS as a catastrophy toward
thinking of PS as a chance to make a step forward.
(Gerard) Chevey: there is
a agenda, and it deals now with life after the pole shift how to deal with it
etc.
(NancyL) ZT: The undecided have MOTIVE in life according to immediate
pleasures, in the main.
(Chevy) Thank you
(NancyL) ZT: When they see
suffering, before them, they feel compassion and may be motivated to give of
their own good, or assist, giving of their time, but this motivation vaporizes
as soon as the painful situation is out of sight.
(NancyL) ZT: They quickly
react to a threat of having their lifestyle diminished, or expectations of THEM
increased such that life becomes more work and less play.
(Chevy) Nancy...are
you reffeting to the Zetas???
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, to motivate a spiritually
undecided individual is, in the main, to present them with suffering, without a
buffer, or to present them with a BETTER life should they do this or
that.
(NancyL) ZT: In a survival group, where undecideds are mixed in with
strongly STO individuals, the undecided should NOT be allowed to avoid the sick
room or pathetic crying of hungry infants.
(NancyL) ZT: Force them into this
presence, as choices will be made. They will either rise to the occasion and
give of their time, being the better for it overall, or get hostile.
(NancyL)
ZT: If the individual gets hostile, they are making an orientation decision,
that THEIR comfort is more important than assisting the suffering of
others.
(NancyL) ZT: In this, the group can decide if they wish to have this
member as a continuing drain, given the obvious orientation and
mindset.
(NancyL) ZT: If they grow toward empthy and assisting others in pain
and need, then they may in fact make a rapid trasit to STO orientation, a
bonus.
(NancyL) ZT: In focusing on the future, making a CLEAR distinction on
how the life of the individual, as well as the group, will be better should this
or that task be done, works well with the undecided.
(NancyL) ZT: This is not
unlike a parent motivating an immature child. They get desert if they do the
dishes, get to watch TV if they finish their homework, or get to go to the park
if they clean their room.
(NancyL) ZT: In the case of a post pole shift
survival group, the carrot can be more variety in the diet, less hunger, warmer
or dryer quarters, or a chance to sight see a bit and travel.
(NancyL) End ZT
to Q2, will to Q3 after followup. Followup?
(IMO) Your statement about two
stars (not planets!) is simply wrong, claiming so is STN. For a careful look at
Nancy's claims, see http://us.geocities.com/openmindxx/
(TerrorDactyl) Will
it be possible to remain undecided in the aftertime - given the difficulties of
living in such times, will people be forced to go down either the STS or STO
route and therefore polarize into either camp. Will the percentages in STS/STO
orientations change?
(Gerard) IMO : again this is not sci.astro ... what you
are saying is not a follow up question IMO
(NancyL) IMO, that's not what my
eyes see, not what the triangle shows (different angle) and drumming on me will
NOT change my mind.
(Torbj) IMO, you are scared!
(Gerard) Those who wish
to read, sci.astro they can use a usenet reader or groups.google.com .. right
now this is not the place for it .. not during the session please.
(NancyL)
Terror ZT: We have predicted that basic orientation will remain the same during
the pole shift, as there is so much distress that the tendency to focus on the
self is high.
(NancyL) ZT: However, SOME will be forced, by the exegencies of
the situations, to become more selfish, more STS, and as we have described, SOME
will be driven by the suffering of others to become more STO.
(NancyL) ZT:
Overall, the death rate will take out all orientations evenly, but afterwards,
STO will be reincarnating, so there will be a gradual change.
(NancyL) End ZT
to Terror.
(Torbj) Those who focus on them selves...can they really be
"turned" by the events to come...or ar they "stucked "with this
orientation
(TerrorDactyl) Thanks ZT
(NathanLaird) Will STS entities be
prevented from coming to Earth by other means than reincarnating?
(NancyL) ZT
to Torbj: The undecided move toward STO or STS during their many lifetimes DUE
to the presentation of moments of decision.
(S7L) Torbj: nothing external may
force orientation change, so the job is 100% up to the individual. Basically I
guess it's not one of the most favourable conditions for STO development
however.
(NancyL) ZT: A burning building, when normally all would run out or
run away from danger, but here young children are trapped and not expected to be
able to figure out an escape route.
(Chevy) I am new..please forgive
me...what is STO and STS?
(NancyL) ZT: The undecided stops thinking of every
man for himself, and contemplates what those young children must be
feeling.
(Gerard) Service to Others - Service to Self .. you can read about
that in the Orientation section of zetatalk
(NancyL) ZT: In a flash, a
decision is made to dash in and try a rescue, a decision that has moved the
entitiy toward STO.
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, someone undecided, sitting on the
fence in a life of relative ease for all, is faced with small food supplies for
many mouths.
(NancyL) ZT: The get up in the night, when the crying of the
children with belly aches has quieted, mometarily, and take the food and
disappear into the night.
(TerrorDactyl) Has god brought about a pole shift
to create an STO earth, or is it just by chance that this planet is coming by
now?
(NancyL) ZT: They have likewise make a decision, to be MORE
STS.
(NancyL) End ZT to Torbj.
(Torbj) Bow my head!
(NancyL) Terror, in
ZT. Council of Worlds in Rules. PS is a natural occurence, like tornadoes or
cancer, and WE are to grow spiritually because of this.
(NancyL) Read a
bit!
(NancyL) OK, Q3 ...
(NancyL) 3. When people want to broaden their
horizons, one of the options are various travel channels - they show you how
people live on the other side of the Earth. Such travel shows are actually quite
popular. You visited their Gobi desert base, been introduced to alien forms,
etc. You are already writing about that. Why not visit them next time with a low
cost, low resolution digital photo equipment and make a good "travel story" .
People would read, watch photos and say "Woa, they live without money and look
how advanced they are. If they could have done this even if they destroyed their
planet, so can we live through PS."
(S7L) TerrorDactyl: and your question
indicates a form of thought that things like pole shifts were punishments
perhaps, as in "repent or suffer".
(Torbj) God brought you here,
Terror
(NancyL) ZT: In that the undecided are the ones that will exhibit lack
of motivation after the pole shift, this would NOT be a good
approach.
(NancyL) ZT: First, they would not relate! An STO lifestyle in fact
seems dull and uninteresting to the undecided.
(Canuck) Nancy, the first
sentence of the Q is not showing
(NancyL) ZT: All that attention to duty! All
that serious conferencing with each other!
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, to present an
STO alien lifestyle as a motivation to the undecided would be a waste of
time.
(RC) This seems very scripted
(NancyL) ZT: Those in the STO
orientation are ALREADY highly motivated, due to the perceived and anticipated
suffering of others.
(Cybervviz) No she is channeling, this is
common.
(NancyL) ZT: Those in the STS orientation would flick off such a
travel scenarios, in that they would sense the empthy and connection between
entities and suppress this in themselves.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the Awakening
proceeds, with wise hands at the helm, and this does NOT include digitizing the
4th Density STO lifestyle, though we appreciate the questioners motives as well
intended, highly so.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Cybervviz) First
sentence
(RC) Ha
(Abk) The question didn't come through. could you repeat
please?
(TerrorDactyl) Will travel be possible then in the aftertime, by
means of vehicles other than by foot?
(Bailey) Are there options for thoes
who have lived a life of service to others before the shift and already started
the stransition?
(NancyL) Abk, the Q was listed in 3 parts, check the log or
read it later.
(Abk) No, the third part is missing most
(NancyL) We have
10-15 minutes, I'll throw open to the group.
(NancyL) Questions?
(DavidS)
Maybe IMO have some questions?
(S7L) Gerard, can you post the part of
question we missed?
(NancyL) Terror, please read the PS section of
ZT.
(Chevy) I am new what is STO and STS
(NancyL) Bailey, I don't
understand the question, Options?
(JoeyB) Nancy, will other alien groups be
joining the Zetas in the immediate aftertime?
(Torbj) Go with your
dreams...or convert your car to alcohol....or bicycle....or horse....
(Dan33)
Being STO would bring with it plenty of stress trying to help everyone, what
would the zetas recommend to help deal or relieve stress?
(NancyL) IMO is
here to bludgeon me :-)
(Cybervviz) Q: If STO units will be constructed, what
will be the level of consciousness for those units, will they choose leaders or
not.
(Longint) How do those so called accidents function that we all
experience in our life?
(Gerard) Yes but this is not sci.astro ... and there
are people with other questions too etc..
(S7L) Cybervviz: and what do you
mean by "STO units" and "level of consciousness"?
(Cybervviz) Groups of
people living in STO
(NancyL) JoeyB, the Zetas have stated that 40 groups,
over 1,000 life forms in total, are participating already.
(NathanLaird)
Nancy, good to see you. Very pleased. Keep up the great work. Send Z's my
hello's.
(DavidS) NancyL, I talked about responsibility in sci.astro - about
responsibility of our actions in life - could Zetas talk more about this -
especially listening to ZetaTalk etc?
(S7L) 32b: what accidents?
(Longint)
That are not accidents :)
(Gerard) That things in life happen with a reason
..
(Longint) Just seem so
(Bailey) Will some escape the things to come
through divine intervention or assistance?
(NancyL) Dan33, physical exercise
will be the stress reliever. If you're STO you'll work till you drop.
(S7L)
32b: I don't understand. If you have an example it might be easier to figure it
out.
(TerrorDactyl) What size of group should people congregate in during the
aftertime? For practical and food purposes are we talking 50-100 or 10,000 or
entire countries?
(RC) Z Stichen says Px due 2030 not 2003
(NancyL) Cyber,
STO chose their leaders, natural true-vote method.
(Longint) For example if
you meet somebody not planned but important, accidently.
(NathanLaird) I hope
the awakening accelerates after the shift. I am so tired of being isolated as a
planet from other intelligent life.
(Cybervviz) Perfect
(Longint) If you
decide something, but not knowing why you did it actually.
(Torbj)
Terror...be yourself...and the group will grow around you
(NancyL) DavidS,
not sure what you mean, listening to ZT is NOT a responsibility. I though your
postings good, you stated YOU were making YOUR choices for
YOURself.
(Jubjub963) What will likely happen in the middle-east in the
aftertime?
(S7L) 32b: Ah. That kind of thing. Coincidences.
(Torbj) The
numbers are not important
(NancyL) Bailey, dream on!
(Longint) Yes. Thats
a better term.
(Longint) I would like to ask, how these are
arranged
(DavidS) NancyL - someone say you are responsibility for your words
in ZetaTalk - and I think it is wrong - what could Zetas say about
it?
(NancyL) Bailey, are you cured of cancer today? Saved from the tornado
today? Why would tomorrow be different? This is your schoolhouse. You're going
to get an opportunity to GROW! Take it!
(Gerard) And just don't invite
everyone etc etc.. to join your group .. that's a good advice too I guess ...
(Bob) Will PX be imaged again before mid 2002?
(Cybervviz) Q: Can You
give more details about the alternative system for money - I am thinking to
setup a 'share' website
(DavidS) I mean responsible for other
people...
(NancyL) Terror, group size depends on climate, country, resources,
orientation, a lot of factors. No pat answer.
(NathanLaird) I am surprised
the Annunaki are still not evolved enough to heal our past and be in contact
with us. Or are we not ready yet?
(NancyL) RC, Sitchin is NOW saying 2030?
Hey! He used to say 1,000 years out! Good for him, he's connecting a
bit!
(Okidok) NancyL;; are you gonna celebrate christmas next
year???
(Dan33) Nancy, you had mentioned something about a form of Communism
that would work after the pole shift, could you elaborate?
(Bob) ...or are
all large telescopes being blocked from "that area"?
(Domicile) Q on wind: If
wind is caused by uneven heating of earth's surface, how would total cloud cover
effect wind after PS?
(Merylong) ".....40 groups, over 1,000 life forms??....
Who and where are they, and how will they help during after PS?
(Gerard)
Better to have a group, that is STO then have a group with a lot of undecided
folks who might turn sto
(Torbj) You can invite as many as .... but only
those that are in line with your "vibration" will ansver
(NancyL) Nathan, the
Z's said Awakening by local group, readiness, etc. YOU may bring it about for
your group.
(Canuck) Small c communism..where the group works together for
the good of all.. from each according to ability..to each according to
need.
(TerrorDactyl) When will it be known among the general populace that
there is an unknown object in the sky viewable by all that is unexplained by
scientists - in other words a trigger that will serve as evidence for the people
reading zetatalk - confirmation if you like.
(RC) Plan your poleshift party
in advance folks!
(NathanLaird) After a shift unfortunately I don't think
we'll be having these chats this way. We will lose many distance relationships.
But I am sure we will get many new close ones.
(NancyL) JubJub, the Zetas
have predicted NO county to country major war, regardless of sabre rattling,
best guess on their part (in human hands, etc.)
(Gerard) For some folks even
pictures and sightings of that planet might be not enough, and that they will be
in denial till the end
(NathanLaird) Nancy, I'm doing my best! At least a
dozen people I have told about these things have told a dozen others, so the
numbers are increasing ...
(NancyL) ZT to JubJub re Middle East: Devastated
by the pole shift, those in the Middle East embroiled in conflict will find
themselves distrated from their petty quarles.
(RC) Dozen others prob talking
about crazy Nathan
(Torbj) Terror...that was cleared in Swedish and Spanish
television yesteraday...."a 500 year away comet" they called it
(NancyL) ZT:
Their countries lie on fault lines, in the path of volcanoes which will belch,
and MOST survivors of multiple pronged disasters sit stunned until death
overtakes them.
(TerrorDactyl) Torbj - you have a website for
that?
(NathanLaird) Actually the response has been very positive and has
generated many late night discussions and research by many people. I am very
proud of them. But some of course deny it, like my wife. I respect their
decisions either way.
(S7L) Gerard: however those people will be in
minority
(NancyL) ZT: Imagine the World Trade Center disaster, WITHOUT
rescue.
(S7L) When we get a real good picture, I would estimate a bulk of
those on some kind of edge would be tipped
(NancyL) ZT: No food stuffs
brought in, no financial rescue, no media attention.
(Jean-Marie) If alien
STO lifestyle can not be a motivation for undecided, could the human STO
communities that the Zs have mentioned be a motivation?
(Torbj)
Terror...no....just watched the television...
(NancyL) ZT: This is in essence
a depression, where less and less is done, as time passes.
(Chevy) Nancy...It
is so hard to convince people..is there an easy way???
(Cybervviz) Yes
scientific proves :-)-
(NancyL) ZT: Illness sets in, and those stunned and
unable to see a way out are at last given their way out, quietly.
(S7L)
Chevy: it depends on people. If you honestly want to "convince" anyone, it means
basically a very long collaboration
(NancyL) End ZT to
JubJub.
(TerrorDactyl) Nancy, why cant we have proof in
advance?
(NathanLaird) I welcome the challenge to do more to serve others, as
many others feel the same way! So we will do well, Zetas. Mammalian-based
intelligent species has high caring and compassion, etc.
(NancyL) Terror,
please read Awakening section, I think you've not begun!
(Cybervviz) Just a
little one :-) prediction, UFO, mathimatical formula that doesn't exist
:-)
(Chevy) S7L..what is STO and STS...
(JoeyB) Nancy: Any more feelings
on the "other shoe dropping"?
(S7L) Chevy: first, read the orientation
section. It's a simple thing but not easy to explain
(NancyL) Terror, re the
undeniable sign, yes. Zetas say for 7 weeks before the shift, visible in the sky
as red object.
(TerrorDactyl) No, I mean why can't we have proof of Planet X,
we might as well because it is going to happen anyway.
(NancyL) Then a week
before the shift, rotation stoppage.
(NathanLaird) Cybervviz, read the whole
zetatalk website, that is something that didn't use to exist. There is nothing
else like it. It is proof enough that it is extraordinary.
(Kirk) The thing
about the asteroid was all over the evening news in the UK too
(NancyL) Not
one can claim they are taken by surprise!
(Gerard) Some thinking, some folks
things that they should build big structures like domes etc before the shift.
Which is not adviceable I think.. Better to build such a structure afterwards
... when things settle down .. As for what I read the Hybrids also will be here
after the shift with their communities and not before ... right ... If one
thinks about the distruction of those structures?
(Kirk) I don't know how it
could have anything to do with Planet X though
(NancyL) Getting close to the
hour, and I'm going to sign off in 30 seconds.
(Gerard) A dome that could
collapse for example?
(NancyL) Thank you all for attending and inspiring
great ZetaTalk.
(NathanLaird) Nancy, it's never long enough. Let's get you a
100wpm typist so we can get more questions in! Thank you very much for your
time.
(RC) Gerard good luck on finding supplies and equipment after
poleshift
(NancyL) It was a ZT answer other than what I expected, I always
learn something myself!
(Merylong) Nancy why don't zetas like to talk about
other alien groups and how they are helping the transformation?
(NathanLaird)
Merylong: Rules of Engagement, see www.zetatalk.com
(Gerard) RC: have them at
hand before the shift and build afterwards
(Cybervviz) Feeled smoothly,
mmm
(Torbj) Hey Nancy....what are you going to do now?
(NancyL) Merylong,
they DO, read the Rules, Worlds, Transformation, etc.
(Chevy) Not being very
good with astronomy..is the PX visiable with a store bought
telescope??
(Torbj) Eat?
(NancyL) Bye bye all!
(Torbj) Or take a
walk+
(Gerard) RC: have them at hand before the shift and build afterwards
Session Close: Sat Apr 06 17:06:20 2002