Session Start: Sat Aug 03 16:39:21 2002
(Grimbot) Welcome and g'day to you
Nancy and the Zetas!
(Guest25) Remember to take your meds
(Starman)
Ummm
(S7L) Oh no, automated greeting, and on top of that, greeting the
Zetas.
(Bailey) I was with a friend who saw it too
(NancyL) Hi all. I've
got a couple Q's collected, amd going to write them down so I can post them now,
and later ... BRB
(S7L) Bailey: and you didn't know what it was, so it was an
unidentified object that seemed flying? Just how did it disappear?
(Gyflex)
Lucky you! I'm still waiting to see one!
(MrCLittle) No realtime q's
today?
(Bailey) It was not flying, just sitting over by the hill
side
(Bailey) I live in the woods, there are no roads or anything in that
direction, the light was more like the moon than anything elce
(Willshell) It
was atmospheric lensing effect from swamp gases esaping from a weather
baloon
(Westbrook) So a USO, Unidentified Sitting Object?
(Bailey) So call
it an unidentified glowing object (smiles)
(Butch) Yeah,
willshell...lol
(Redeye) Ha ha
(S7L) Willshell: ... reflecting the light
of venus
(Willshell) The light of venus reflecting off an aircraft looks like
a UFO when you are under mass hypnosis
(Bailey) It was close to the horison,
not high in the sky
(Willshell) Bailey, Im just joking, I dont mean to make
fun of you, I wish I could have seen it
(Obany) And you saw it for some
minuts or shorter, if I might ask?
(Bailey) At least a hour
(Obany) That's
pretty long
(Mike-O) Did it ever change color?
(Obany) And in what kind of
a fashion did it disapear?
(Bailey) I wrote it off for the first 45 min but
it never moved, then i realised it was not the moon and went out and
looked
(Bailey) It just vanished, I did not see it change colors, it was huge
like the moon
(NancyL) Here's the agenda, for you early birds. Could use a
bit more to fill the hour ...
(NancyL) ESTABLISHMENT STORIES
(NancyL) 1.
2003 was on the cover of Enquirer mag, a scandal rag sold at grocery store
checkout counters in US. 2003 was related to Biblical prophecies of end times,
like drought, fire in the skies, earthquakes. Since the Bible does not mention
2003, is this an establishment leak, or what?
(NancyL) 2. CNN is featuring
crop circles, related to Mel Gibson's new movie Signs. Colin Andrews and others
talking to the issue. Alien creation is mentioned, but greater weight to manmade
and perhaps human consciousness vibes. Signs gives the aliens bad press, but at
least legit crop circles were shown, and some of the anomalies like bending
grain still growing. Is this also a deliberate awakening move?
(NancyL)
GRAVITY: EARTH FLATTER?
(NancyL) 1. Science news press that the Earth, which
ostensibly the same shape as before, has greater gravity pull not evenly
distributed. What is causing this, as many theories abound
(NancyL) Boy
about 12 people asked about this gravity thing, and several news sites had it
featured.
(Samsara2003) Nancy - I'm wondering the Zetas would care to comment
on the mysterious chemical sploches found on pavent across cities in New
Jersey
(NancyL) A science site said one theory was that the poles were
melting, so less ice "pressing" on the crust, so more lifting at the poles, but
the Earth shape is the same so not a good theory.
(NancyL) They have put it
to mysterious but most likely something in the core, moving. Don't know
what.
(Gyflex) The press is reporting that the earth's magnetic field is
weakening; is this the case, and what is the cause of this?
(NancyL) Samsara,
the news just said it was "wax", and heat bringing this out. Quick answer from
the Z's on this:
(PppHax) Nancy Lieder, are you jewish? Your last name sounds
Jewish with that IER. And the ZETAS told you to wrote all lies about hitler and
WW2, all in favor of Jews?
(Abk) Add to Q2 - we were looking at the crop
circle West Overton July 28- looks like a chemical molecule. Is it? If so, what
chemical?
(HenryK) Hi
(Mikeaus) Gyflex: it's Nibiru approaching-affecting
Earth's megnetic field
(NancyL) ZT: We have commenting about increasing
illness, germs migrating about, wildlife and fish getting sich, and this is the
biological evidence of earth changes.
(Mikeaus) magnetic
(PppHax) Still
hasn't answered my question.
(PppHax) Sich?
(SteveH) I thought that crop
circle from July 28th looked like a fake
(PppHax) How do you FISH get
sich
(NancyL) ZT: There are also atmospheric changes, such as the halo
surrounding the Moon mentioned months ago, and of course the weather changes
which mankind is unable to explain or predict.
(Obany) !notalk
(NancyL)
ZT: What caused those blotches? Pollution in the atmosphere, NOT moving away as
formerly, hovering, at a lower level, interacting with other chemicals, a type
of congealed inversion.
(NancyL) ZT: In other words, the weather!
(NancyL)
End ZT to Sam
(Obany) !talk
(Grimbot) Ok, everyone can talk
now.
(Aquila_20) I have some good photos of the halo surrounding the moon an
the sun
(Samsara2003) Thanks Nancy & zetas
(PppHax) No, she spelled
SICK "SICH". Either she, or zetas can't spell. GOTCHA!
(Mikeaus) Big
deal!
(NancyL) Lieder is German, PPP, and my physical heritage is 100%
several generations back on both sides of the family.
(PppHax)
Lol
(Swanny) You are clever ppphax
(PppHax) Lot of Jewish names have
German last names, and you wrote all lies about Hitler
(NancyL) Brains and a
curt mouth, Niels and I sharing this I guess :-)
(Cybervviz) Lieder is
gGerman
(PppHax) Lol
(NancyL) SteveH, which circle was that?
(PppHax)
gGerman?
(Obany) Please Ppp_hax: shut up
(SteveH) The one from West
Overton
(PppHax) Why, cause I'm right?
(NancyL) PPP, the typos are all
mine :-)
(PppHax) Sure
(Mikeaus) No, cause you're immature
Ppphax.
(SteveH) Circles don't look sharp or perfectly round
(PppHax)
Immature eh?
(Mikeaus) Very annoying
(PppHax) What , the crop circles
?
(NancyL) SteveH, do you have a URL so I can look?
(Cybervviz) Ppp_hax,
did you known the US Military had much less dicipline as the German Army and
most rapes in our country was due to .... the Allied forces and NOT
Germany?
(PppHax) There was a weird chemical found in the CROP CIRCLES. That
proves some of them are non fake.
(SteveH)
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2002/westoverton/westoverton2002a.html
(Vim)
Nancy - I have a question to add to the agenda if there's time etc.
(MrCLittle) NancyL: do you think the U.S. will have the least STO's compared
to countries around the world?
(S7L) Humh, unperfect circles,
SteveH.
(PppHax) NANCY, HAS THE TRANSFORMATION already begun?
(Anunnaki)
Nancy, where are the coordinates?
(Cybervviz) The circles on
www.temporarytemples.com are very beautiful.
(SteveH) The producers from the
movie Signs are supposed to be making some crop circles around the world to
promote the movie.
(Zetapal) Ppp for some
(NancyL) Steve, I agree
:-)
(Cybervviz) Oops www.temporarytemples.co.uk
(Samsara2003) Nancy : How
about the West Nile Virus. This virus has allegedly killed 4 now. Looks like
good ZT accuracy...
(SteveH) Hehe
(Redeye) Ppp : if u read the site u
wouldn't need to ask that
(Mikeaus) They look very fake tho Steve
(NancyL)
Vim, what is your Q?
(Vim) - I was hoping the Zetas might comment on the
ethics of withholding info about Planet X from people who are in no position to
prepare - like an obese friend.
(Vim) So they can spend the rest of the year
with peace-of-mind
(PppHax) Nancy
(PppHax) Question.
(Samsara2003)
Nancy - I wasn't able to get through to your mailbox - looks like it's been full
for several days. :)
(MrCLittle) NancyL: do you think the U.S. will have the
least percentage of STO's compared to countries around the
world?
(TerrorDactyl) What does that West Overton circle
signify?
(Cybervviz) I think they have the most ego :-)))
(NancyL) Mr. C,
there are many STO in US. Scandinavia leaning to STO, Africa toward STS, but the
number of STS in any country the minority, big time.
(S7L) Some circles look
better, such as Aveburystones, which is a recitation of an earlier
theme
(S7L) Interesting. It signals some kind of movement.
(Starman)
Nancy. can the zetas comment on the stargates situated around the
earth
(Anunnaki) NancyL: Where are the coordinates?
(Gyflex) Is the US
military also making crop circles with lasers?
(Sefi) Hallo
everyone!
(PppHax) Lol
(NancyL) It is the leadership of US now, Bush et
al, that is STS, not the people at large. Same for many other countries. Judge
them by the people, not the strong arm leadership.
(Anunnaki) NancyL: Would
you bet your LIFE about PlanetX being here by 2003?
(PppHax) How many crop
circles have been translated yet?
(NancyL) Vim, will add that as Q3.
(S7L)
Ppp_hax: by translated, don't you mean "interpreted"?
(Vim) Thanks
:)
(Guest25) 10 million USD bet that there is no Px, any takers?
(Starman)
Nancy can you add a Q4
(PppHax) If that's what you want to call it. I mean I
know the famous one. 'Everything is created by will'
(SteveH) S7L, yes that
crop cirlce from Aveburystones looks quite impressive
(TerrorDactyl) I walked
in the milk hill 409 circle last year
(Cybervviz) Q: NancyL, did You see also
so much (more) ugly people around? I guess this is due to pollution, eating meat
and smoking. (Sorry to say it so crude)
(S7L) SteveH: at least, it could be
"genuine" in some sense.
(Butch) Guest25, if you've got 10M to bet, how bout
loaning me a few thousand???:)
(NancyL) Starman, what is your Q?
(Starman)
Can the zetas comment on the stargates situated around the earth
(Focus27)
Smoking definitely making people ugly
(Cybervviz) Meat either I
guess
(Guy) Lol
(NancyL) Annunaki, I HAVE bet my life that Px will be here
2003.
(PppHax) Nancy, has the transformation already began? Because lately I
have been discovering my spiritual and psychic ability, easy to peform, such as
send a thought to another person and have them interpret it
(Guest25) So will
you kill yourself if it doesn't come durin may-jun 2003?
(Focus27) Meat
doesn't wrinkle your face, though
(NancyL) Starman, there are no star gates,
someone ELSE said that. No Q&A.
(Starman) Shame..
(AGreenspan) A
fundamental question still remains unanswered: On what ground did the Council Of
Worlds, allow contact between EBE's and US government?
(NancyL) OK, the hour
is upon us, so I'll begin ...
(Sefi) Ppphax: I think im experiencing that
right now too...
(Obany) !notalk
(NancyL) ESTABLISHMENT
STORIES
(NancyL) 1. 2003 was on the cover of Enquirer mag, a scandal rag sold
at grocery store checkout counters in US. 2003 was related to Biblical
prophecies of end times, like drought, fire in the skies, earthquakes. Since the
Bible does not mention 2003, is this an establishment leak, or what?
(NancyL)
2. CNN is featuring crop circles, related to Mel Gibson's new movie Signs. Colin
Andrews and others talking to the issue. Alien creation is mentioned, but
greater weight to manmade and perhaps human consciousness vibes. Signs gives the
aliens bad press, but at least legit crop circles were shown, and some of the
anomalies like bending grain still growing. Is this also a deliberate awakening
move?
(NancyL) ZT: As Planet X becomes visible in the skies to amateurs
during the Fall leading into 2003, and increasing in size so that those without
the aid of scopes can see it by Spring of 2003,
(NancyL) ZT: and as the
weather extremes increase to the point of making the general populace frantic,
demanding explanations from scientists,
(NancyL) ZT: and as earthquakes
increase in frequency, destroying cities, and bridges and rail lines continue to
fault, without explanation of the human scientists who are at a loss for why
this is occuring NOW,
(NancyL) ZT: the establishment will increasingly look
to explanations to give to the populace that will placate them.
(NancyL) ZT:
In a Christian nation, such as the US presumes to be by its controlling ultra
right political structure, this will be that the End Times are upon
mankind.
(NancyL) ZT: The hope here is to drive the public into their
churches to pester THEIR leaderhip, and the answers perdictable.
(NancyL) ZT:
Pray.
(NancyL) ZT: For those logical thinkers, educated and reading broadly
in the news and on the Internet, other explanations will be given.
(NancyL)
ZT: A current theory, only somewhat in the press, is that there are periodic
climate changes, cycles, and this is ONE of them.
(NancyL) ZT: Data will be
dredged forth, newly interpreted, supporting this, with the reassurance that
these times will pass as they have in the past.
(NancyL) ZT: In tightly
controlled countries like China, where the populace is intelligent but access to
news around the world limited to what the government wants the populace to know,
each local is to believe that THEIR local is afflicted, as occurs during normal
times, and the big picture will elude the poor citizenry until the last
moments.
(NancyL) ZT: Countries that care for their citizenry, in general,
will find heavy discussion in the news, the talk shows, where many elements are
brought to the discussion table and many theories presented.
(NancyL) ZT:
What this is to show the populace is that their establishent cares, is seeking
answers, but HAS none.
(NancyL) ZT: This is reassuring to the populace in
that they see the pain in the faces around the table, and themselves cannot come
up with the answer.
(NancyL) ZT: Will the coming passage, with our
predictions, be presented?
(NancyL) ZT: Only occasionaly, but the ZetaTalk
explanation, along with countering information such as Sitchin's way-out-there
dates and scientists stating that an inbound brown dwarf could simply not travel
fast enough to support a 2003 passage.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, these countries
will provide their citizenry with INFORMATION, and allow them to make up their
own minds.
(NancyL) ZT: This is our current assessment of the establishment
approach to explanations, beyond what is currently being presented, ie Global
Warming.
(NancyL) ZT: As the Earth changes become intense, and the populace
frantic and their governments drunk with confusion and fear, other approaches
may emerge, we predict.
(NancyL) ZT: Leaks will come out as to the REAL
cause, and the devastation to expect.
(NancyL) ZT: Given greater information
in the public's hands, sites such as Troubled Times, as we have predicted, will
find themselves suddenly inundated with mass interest.
(NancyL) Get
ready!
(NancyL) End ZT followup?
(Obany) !talk
(Grimbot) Ok, everyone
can talk now.
(Samsara2003) Can the zetas comment on how they anticipate the
amaetuer Px sightings to be handeled once they start to come pouring in this
fall?
(MrCLittle) NancyL: In your view, can anything possibly further the
delay of Planet X past May/June of 2003?
(Ummite) NancyL: is the incident
whit the whales last week have any link with Px?
(Bailey) Is there also a
planet Y headed this way? Is it true a benevilent form of ET is trying to divert
catastrophy?
(Andyoch) Test
(Guest25) Nancy, where are the Zetas at this
moment? I would really LOVE to meet them, so could you arrange
something?
(Mikeaus) Ummite: the declining magnetic field - they navigate by
the Earth's magnetic field.
(NancyL) ZT to Sam: When PX becomes visible this
fall, to amateurs, it will be called alternatively noise, a fleeting comet, a
fleeting nova, or a delusion.
(Sefi) Can u tell us which countries in
particular Nancy?
(Guy) I remember hearing about the possibility of pole
shifts only once as an explanation to Global Warming in the media
(NancyL)
ZT: Only images can register SOMETHING, and few amateurs have the equipment to
register an infrared object.
(Guest25) Px was first "visible" last fall, then
Jun-Jul 2002, now Fall 2002..
(NancyL) ZT: Also, the bending of red light,
which allow the amateur to FIND the object when he/she looks around the spot,
will continue to support ridicule so that it is stated that DIFFERENT objects
are being sighted.
(NancyL) End ZT to Sam.
(TerrorDactyl) Yes you did say
mid 2002, so why is it now fall 2002
(Guest25) First it was magnitude 2, then
mag 10 (or was it 11), then 20....
(NancyL) Mr. C, no, this is a theory that
if mankind changes, it will delay or some such. NOT going to
happen.
(Cybervviz) Other Aliens are using a tractor beam ;-)
(Zetapal)
Terror - a common misquote - private me for an explanation if you
want
(Guest25) Could the zetas visit me?
(Swanny) Can we have months
instead of seasons,it is confusing for us Australians?
(NancyL) Guest, please
read the Call section.
(Guest25) There's plenty of space here to land with
their little flying saucer..
(TerrorDactyl) No it isn't a misquote I was on
here when she said it
(Guest25) I can always wear my tin foil hat if the
radiation from the UFO gets too dangerous..
(Samsara2003) Thank you
Nancy/Zetas!
(NancyL) Sefi, which countries in what regard?
(Zetapal)
Ok
(Guest25) I've read the call section. It makes no sense
(Zetapal) To
you
(LeRenard) NancyL: first mid 2002. now Fall 2002?
(NancyL) Terror, it
could be viewed by amateurs NOW, size wise, if not for light
pollution.
(Guest25) Yeah, I'm just a 99% M.Sc.
(PJ) Hey guest buzz off
outa here
(Guest25) How could I understand anything
(PJ) Get
lost
(Zetapal) Exactly
(NancyL) Guest, the mag thing has been beaten to
death.
(Sefi) Nancy: which countries will provide their populace with open
discussions about the ongoing changes
(Piett) According to the coordinates
given, PX will exceed the sun's escape velocity. Then there was mention about a
repulsive force. What is it in physical terms? This sounds
sci-fi.
(TerrorDactyl) You never mentioned light pollution until mid 2002
when it didnt show!
(NancyL) Guest, will YOU be here this Fall to explain who
you are, and where you are located?
(Focus27) David Suzuki predicted a pole
shift in 1968.
(NancyL) This cuts both ways. Go run and hide like
IMO
(Guest25) NancyL: yes, I will. You can count on that
(Cybervviz) He he
Piett, You forget the lunar force versus sun force described by the Occult
sciences
(Guest25) How fast is the PX moving right now?
(Vim) Terror - the
location where you'll find planet X was behind the sun during mind-June. Now,
that spot is no longer directly behind the sun - allowing you to theoretically
start looking - but for all the reasons listed, you likely won't have luck until
fall.
(NancyL) ZT to Sefi: We anticipate Scandinavian countries, in
particular Sweden, will be open. Surprisingly, Italy, the home of the Pope. And
New Zealand, and certainly France, the rebel country.
(NancyL) End ZT to
Sefi.
(MrCLittle) NancyL, if the world changes for the better then we may be
able to delay Planet-X?
(Guy) Lol
(NancyL) Guest, who ARE you, then, name,
and place of residence?
(NancyL) OK. onto Q2.
(LeRenard) NancyL: Would you
bet your LIFE on all this? The difference is that everyone KNOWS who you
are
(TerrorDactyl) But she said amateur astronomers would be able to see it
mid 2002, there was no mention of it being in the sun until mid2002 arrived and
no Px in sight
(Guest25) NancyL: central Finland, as you can see from my
IP
(NancyL) GRAVITY: EARTH FLATTER?
(NancyL) 1. Science news press that
the Earth, which ostensibly the same shape as before, has greater gravity pull
not evenly distributed. What is causing this, as many theories abound
(Obany) !notalk
(NancyL) ZT: Mankind, in his dealings with gravity,
assumes a steady force from a given mass.
(NancyL) ZT: His math lines up
accordingly, with a larger mass having a greater pull, and his explorations off
the face of Earth has not challenged this.
(NancyL) ZT: In the last few
years, he has found his probes not behaving according to gravity math, without
explanation.
(NancyL) ZT: And recently, his probes have given him data to the
effect that the shape of the Earth SHOULD have changed, per the gravity pull
registed from the surface, but measurements do not support this shape
change.
(NancyL) ZT: What has occurred, to change the pull of gravity from
the Earth to the extent that it is measurable from space?
(NancyL) ZT:
Mankind's theories include changes in the core, as they cannot see any
ostensible change in the shape of the globe.
(NancyL) ZT: As we have stated,
gravity is a particle flow, with outshooting in a laser manner of intense
gravity particle streams and a slow drifting back to the surface by the
particles.
(NancyL) ZT: It is the drifting back that creates the phenomenon
of gravity, pressure downward, as the outburst goes BETWEEN atoms and thus does
not interact.
(NancyL) ZT: Planet X is approaching from a point only somewhat
below the ecliptic, at this time, a gravity pull we have described as distrubing
the equilibruim.
(NancyL) ZT: Man looks about him and makes assumptions on
the status quo, and when the status quo changes he is shocked and cannot explain
the changes.
(NancyL) ZT: He does not UNDERSTAND the status quo, his
explanations WRONG, but when we tell him that the equiblibrium has been
disturbed, as an explanation, he argues.
(NancyL) ZT: This is the case here,
the flow of gravity particles normally involved with the Sun and other planets
being considered NORMAL by man, and now, an additional pull from the direction
of the Ecliptic causing gravity particles to move IN that direction, RETURN FROM
that direction, being noticeable.
(NancyL) ZT: How is it that the other
planets, such as Jupiter, do not cause such a leaning of gravity
pull?
(NancyL) ZT: Mars is tiny, the gaseous planets not massive enough, and
the Sun the only element outside of the Earth itself to affect the even flow of
gravity.
(NancyL) ZT: The Sun likewise, with its outbursting matter,
COUNTERACTS any excessive pull of gravity particles, in the manner that solar
wind affects comet tails.
(NancyL) ZT: Is PX that massive, that strong in its
pull, that from a position outside the orbit of Pluto it could cause a change in
gravity particle flow in the Earth?
(NancyL) ZT: Yes, in a similar manner to
magnetism flow, where magnetic fields are FAR outside what mankind imagines, in
their reach.
(NancyL) ZT: This gravity change, recently noted, will not be
the LAST evidence that the monster is on the move, and will soon create havoc on
your peaceful planet.
(NancyL) End ZT followup?
(Obany) !talk
(Grimbot) Ok, everyone can talk now.
(TerrorDactyl) if we experience
gravity only by a fallback of particles, how come the repulsion force between
planets exist, as they are interacting at the outburst of particles
stage?
(Cybervviz) Q: So it means, when you can create some kind of shield
(to block the outburst-particleflow) around an object you can lift it from the
Earth surface?
(Dan33) With current human technology are we able to view this
gravity particle?
(Ummite) NancyL did you think about doing a french
session??
(Rudy_Joe) Last week the BBC reported that Astronomers have found
that the Earth was getting fatter around the middle.
(PppHax) Uh Jesus
Christ
(Guest25) How fast is the PX moving? (That's a reasonable question, so
please answer.)
(NancyL) Terror, planets have outburst, return of particles
in gentle fallback.
(Piett) So PX will slow down from about about 7million
kph to 1million kph (pluto's orbit) by a force that the whole of humanity could
not find, this day 'n age. How does this fit in with Quantum theory, or is that
a bunch of rubbish.
(Guy) The earth should watch the calories.
Lol
(NancyL) Repulsion is where the outbursts are abutting each other, like
two fire hoses turned on each other.
(Vim) How is it that the gaseous planets
aren't massive enough? Does Jupiter not have a mass equivilent to all the other
planets combined?
(Focus27) Nancy, is the Earth expanding, and if so, how
does this relate to consciousness expansion? www.expanding-earth.org
(Guy) Is
gravity related to fision
(NancyL) Sorry, I think that was my fault! I missed
the followup.
(NancyL) Cyber, levitation is indeed by gravity
manipulation.
(Ummite) Why zeta did not take a french emiser too?
(Dan33)
With current human technology are we able to view this gravity particle?
(Cybervviz) Q: So it means, when You can create some kind of shield (to
block the outburst-particleflow) around an object you can lift it from the Earth
surface ?
(Cybervviz) Okidok
(Sefi) !ping me
(NancyL) Ummite, read Why
Nancy in Transformation section.
(TerrorDactyl) She's gone anyway
(NancyL)
Dan33, no, man has not viewed gravity particles, not magnetism particles, nor
most particles they theorize about.
(Rudy_Joe) Zetas beamed her up
momentarily, she'll be back.
(Phoenix) Grimbot, my apologies. I am very new
at IRC.
(Cybervviz) I was still so curious how that anti-gravity engine
worked of the Adamski UFO's
(TerrorDactyl) I want to know what it is that
makes a gravity particle fallback?
(Guy) Can gravity be measured by
fission?
(Dan33) How are magnetism and gravity different?
(NancyL) Cyber,
the Z's have stated they travel Faster than Light via manipulation of gravity.
(NancyL) They turn off the repulsion, using ONLY the attraction, and a
"quick kiss it is" per them.
(TerrorDactyl) Apparently it was in the news
that Boeing are working on an antigravity device
(Guy) Bending
space
(Piett) So PX will slow down from about 7million kph to 1million
kph(pluto's orbit) by a force that the whole of humanity could not find, this
day 'n age. How does this fit in with quantum theory, or is that a bunch of
rubbish?
(NancyL) Terror, the only outburst because they are too crowded, and
must get past the general downdrifting of particles.
(Cybervviz) Yes, indeed,
Guerdieff told also something similar in his books
(NancyL) I guess they like
each other.
(TerrorDactyl) Why do they fallback though?
(NancyL) Magnetism
is like this too, where the particles are constrantly moving toward each other,
then finding it too crowded.
(Guest25) So what is the zeta-opinion about
Eugene Podkletnov's antigravity experiment?
(NancyL) Probably not something
we can understand all that well.
(NancyL) Terror, mankind will NOT get
anti-gravity, just a wish on their part.
(Vim) Nancy - the Z's said that the
gaseous planets aren't massive enough - but doesn't Jupiter have a mass greater
than all the other planets combined? Is it because Jupiter isn't magnetic that
is has less of an effect than X from afar?
(Beurling) Hye Ummite, I'm french
speaking too.
(NancyL) Piett, to line mankinds understanding with ZetaTalk is
not possible. SO many points where mankind says "we now know that ..." and they
are only putting forth yet another theory.
(NancyL) Not that the Z's know it
all, they state they do NOT, just their understanding SO far better than
mankinds.
(Redeye) Man, this science talk is tedious...
(Zetapal) ie. this
chat
(Cybervviz) Maybe the distance between the atoms for the gasgiant is
different
(NancyL) So to reconcile is not possible, frankly. We have
sputtering man, and pronouncing Zetas, and there is it.
(Ummite) Nancy if I
ask my question in french will you respond to it?
(NancyL) Guest, antigravity
experiment? If he says he has it working, he lies.
(Rudy_Joe) Sitchin is
going to be on lougentile.com monday night at 10 PM ET. What's he going to say
about Nancy?
(Guest25) Nancy: NASA is trying to replicate it. so it won't
work? :-)
(TerrorDactyl) Jumping is antigravity
(Swanny) It all seems to
be a matter of perception, zetas and yours and mine...
(Guy) Lol
(Sefi)
Technically that is!
(NancyL) Vim, mass per mankind's explanation? I'll give
this to the Z's
(NancyL) ZT to Vim: Jupiter is estimated to have X mass,
based on perturbations when it passes other planets, or is nearby.
(Obany)
!notalk
(NancyL) ZT: Mankind assumes this is entirely due to GRAVITY,
understanding only a fraction of a percentage the influences that planets have
on one another.
(NancyL) ZT: There are numerous particle flows, and depending
upon the composition of a given planet, it will repulse, attract, or care
not.
(NancyL) End ZT to Vim.
(Obany) !talk
(Grimbot) Ok, everyone can
talk now.
(Mikeaus) Q: the Australian government seems to be highly STS -
what will they say to the populace when the pole shift is imminent?
(Vim)
Thanks :)
(TerrorDactyl) G'day mate
(Mikeaus) Hehe
(NancyL) So, bottom
line, Jupiter has effect causing perturbations we do not understand, NOT
necessarily gravity particles.
(Longint) And what is MASS, what is FORCE per
the Zetas?
(Piett) Those poor physicists that studied years at universities
don't know a thing. Guess I'm also though a bunch of rubbish while studing to
become an engineer, eh Nancy?
(Guest25) And me while studying to become a
M.Sc.
(Rudy_Joe) The Earthlings are doing the best they can.
(Cybervviz)
Psst, you are only engineer between the borders of the level of eductaion of the
whole mankind.
(Piett) Those poor earthlings
(RainMan) Like Firesign
Theatre says "Everything you know is Wrong!"
(Focus27) You can learn a lot
about astrophysics playing billiards; speed, mass, accel. etc.
(NancyL) ZT to
Mikeaus: Australia will do a dance similar to the US, in refusing to address any
discssuion of Px officially, which throwing the public to the Aborigine
stories.
(Sefi) Well most of the theories in human physics are just that:
unproven
(Samsara2003) Piett : Mankind is in its infancy. 100 years ago we
didn't even know the concept of aerodynamics...
(Samsara2003) In fact it was
proven impossible mathematically
(NancyL) ZT: The US will deny, but push
Troubled Times and this like to address the panic of the public, and hopes the
public rushes to the Churchs during what they take to be the End
Times.
(Rudy_Joe) Rainmaker: Welcome to the Twilight Zone.
(Bailey) i
think mankind is barbaric
(Piett) But you know physics a 100 years from
now???!!
(Samsara2003) Their ET's Piett - Millions of years more
advanced...
(NancyL) ZT: Australia will likewise refuse to explain to their
citizenry the real causes of Earth changes, but will publicize Aborigine myths,
and folklore.
(Samsara2003) Wake up - we're not alone...
(Sefi) Nancy will
we find some arguing between the church and the govt about their plans on
driving the masses to them?
(MrCLittle) Bailey, wonder if Zetas evolved from
the same?
(Piett) Voices in the night?
(Jeremy) Should survivors be
concerned with who owns the land where they set up camp after the pole shift,
and furthermore how will the concept of land ownership change in general
following the pole shift?
(NancyL) ZT: Those in the know will go into the
elite enclaves, the rest of the populace be damned and can go to the Aborigine
to be taken care of.
(Redeye) Jeremy, good Q
(NancyL) ZT: Such is the
mindset of the ultra right.
(NancyL) End ZT to Mikeaus.
(Jeremy) Redeye:
hi Redeye, thx
(NancyL) Onto Q3 ...
(Mikeaus) Thanks :)
(Focus27) Good
one jeremy
(Obany) !notalk
(NancyL) WHITE LIE
(NancyL) 1. I was hoping
the Zetas might comment on the ethics of withholding info about Planet X from
people who are in no position to prepare - like an obese friend.
(NancyL) ZT:
We have stated that the coming times are great opportunities, as life will NOT
be slow and steady, with decisions put off, but the opposite.
(NancyL) ZT:
Many will find themselves in situations where they fear for their own lives, but
their neighbors and family needing a helping hand.
(NancyL) ZT: Should they
stay, and help others, or run? Heros born or illusions dashed, the need for
action will reveal much.
(NancyL) ZT: Many have loved ones, or those they
feel responsible for or who rely upon them, which they can either desert or
remain in place to care for.
(NancyL) ZT: Should the husband run for the
hill, leaving his cripled wife?
(NancyL) ZT: Should he stay and hold her
hand, while the waters rise to engulf them, reassuring her that drowning is not
painful or perhaps rocking her in his arms so she cannot see what is coming, or
tell himself that her panic does not matter, being short lived?
(NancyL) ZT:
Knowing that such horrific times are coming, many move beyond the decision of
WHEN to place themselves up for ridicule, telling their family in no uncertain
terms that they take the pending pole shift theory seriously, to WHO to
tell.
(NancyL) ZT: Timing of such announcements will resolve itself, as when
the planet is increasingly visible, first called a comet or nova or some such
and then called a comet with red outgassing, none will deny that SOMETHING is
approaching.
(NancyL) ZT: Where it is relatively easy to explain to a healthy
father, of a healthy family, in a good location, that he should take his family
camping when rotation slows noticeable, and distill their drinking water during
the aftertime, what to tell the cancer patient?
(NancyL) ZT: What to tell the
person who cannot live without insulin, or who can hardly walk much less eat if
others do not bring foot to the table?
(NancyL) ZT: What to tell those who
live in places such as India where escape is not possible, the population held
in place by immigration refusal, and lack of options.
(NancyL) ZT: What to
tell those in cities, who have grown soft and have no idea how food is even
grown, much less the skills to feed themselves if out in the wild.
(NancyL)
ZT: Should one explain the situation FULLY, or pad the truth with sweet lies or
omissions?
(NancyL) ZT: One can see the different approaches in channeled
works, where the coming times are talked about in kind terms soundling almost
like a trip to the fair.
(NancyL) ZT: There will be changes, but not to
worry, life will be kind and pleasant.
(NancyL) ZT: The changes are NOT
explained, the dates put off, possibiliteis of mankind changing matters if they
become determined and change their ways,
(NancyL) ZT: all manner of
smoothing the rough edges of what is to come.
(NancyL) ZT: Is this HELPING
you? What is the alternative, which we espouse.
(NancyL) ZT: We tell the
truth, and let those affected make THEIR decisions.
(NancyL) ZT: Those who
decide to allow death to overtake them, or who will be in this position in any
case, can make their peace, settle their affairs, and enjoy their last days
fully, giving emphasis to things that matter like LOVING one
another.
(NancyL) ZT: How is this different from the ill patient, who is
either told of their likely end time or not?
(NancyL) ZT: If the doctor and
family lies, they have hope repeatedly dashed, and one day are frantic as they
realize the truth.
(NancyL) ZT: They die, without saying goodby as they had
hoped, having repeatedly been raised up and dashed down during the process of
their disease.
(NancyL) ZT: Alternatively, the truth told, they weep, embrace
their loved ones, and the last moments are precious, lived fully.
(NancyL)
ZT: We suggest, therefore, NO white lies, NO softening the truth, and NO
avoidance.
(NancyL) ZT: Those who cannot deal with it, will deny, and are
most likely doing this in their lives at present on many fronts.
(NancyL) ZT:
Those who can, will find their peace more quickly, and in the end thank you for
your frankness.
(NancyL) End ZT followup?
(Obany) !talk
(Grimbot) Ok,
everyone can talk now.
(Phoenix) Can Zetas suggest ways to approach younger
people, like older teens or in early twenties, whose families would not be open
minded to info about the PS?
(Bailey) Is it true the government has plans to
kill off survivors with radiation and maneating geniticaly manipulated spieces
and we on the out side have no chance of survival?
(TerrorDactyl) I will
never leave my wife and children - even if it means dying with them. Nancy -
during what month will it be in the mainstream media that a nova/comet/something
is approaching?
(Guest25) You people say this is not a religion or a cult,
yet everything that you believe in comes from one woman (and you can't even
criticize and question what she says without being attacked at ie. "what's your
name, we know where you live?!", "take a hike!", "shut up!" etc.).. That's
interesting. if this is not a cult, then what is?
(Rudy_Joe) Witholding
evidence and proof the ZTs shouldn't expect ordinary folks to accept such a
horrific forcast by faith alone. Not many are going to believe it until its too
late.
(Piett) Would you say the TV series SURVIVOR is a channeled show to put
surviving ideas in the back of our minds. (Making a fire, sterilizing water,
making shelters, etc)
(Vim) Thank you nancy and zetas :) - very
clear
(NancyL) Phoenix, each person is SO individual, including YOU, that YOU
must decide.
(Lilhugs) What about helping those in denial?
(KarenL) Yes I
appreciate that answer wholeheartidly
(NancyL) Perhaps present this as a
"possible" scenario, kind of a game, like "what-if"
(Jan) Nancy, at what time
may one expect people currently in denial to understand that something might be
going on?
(Samsara2003) Do the zetas recommend introducing people to this
material by showing them evidence via human science or go right to zetatalk -
I've been avoidling showing people zetatalk - and trying to convince them of
this otherwise... is that not recommended?
(Sefi) My friend just laughs it
off when I tell him. I wish he'd be more serious about it
(MrCLittle)
NancyL: Do the Zetas recognize the U.S. role as strong contributors to world
peace?
(NancyL) Bailey, they have chemtrails plans, etc., but in fact will be
SO discombobulated that at best will run to their own shelters.
(Guy) Deaf
ears don't listen
(Bailey) Ty
(Jan) i.e. what will be the right time to
approach people about Planet X and the PS?
(NancyL) Guest, YOU can make up
your own mind, so do so. Information can be rejected or not. By the way, where
is YOUR prediction track record and accuracy track record?
(Mikeaus) Mr C -
get real! Strong contributors to war, death and terror more like it
(NancyL)
Don't have one? ZetaTalk does.
(Andyoch) Nancy --I assume you are aware of
Heidi Hollis (who lives in Milwaukee). Her contact (Cafth) says 1/3rd will be
evacuated to another planet. What do the Zeta's say about this?
(Rudy_Joe)
Yes, but it is too vague for most.
(S7L) Nancy: much has been stated about
your track record, and most of it is valid criticism.
(Guest25) Nancy: where
is yours? What is Hale-Bopp?
(NancyL) Sam, I always recommend pointing to
Earth changes, THEN to various theries (use Hapgood, sliding crust, etc) THEN to
predictions.
(MrCLittle) Mikeaus, dont only look at the surface
(NancyL)
You can also say you think ZT is a government leak, as no one but ME knows for
SURE where the info comes from.
(Guest25) You're always 100% accurate when
you ignore all the failures
(Sefi) I think I know who this Guest25 is. Hes
been asking the same quesions including Hale Bopp
(NancyL) Sefi, when things
become more evident, your friend will seek you out. Just wait.
(Guest25)
Sefi: actually this is my 3rd time here
(Cybervviz) There is a mention in
Bible either of some people would be 'put to heavens'
(Focus27) I take that
to mean 1/3 of current landmass inundated. (third of the world
perished?
(NancyL) Jan, right time varies by person, person telling, person
to be approached, SO different, 6 billion, or should I say 12 billion,
possibilities!
(Zetapal) Mr.C peace through subjugation
(Guest25) How fast
will the earth's crust move? Was in it one hour?
(TerrorDactyl) At least the
UK will be in a nice warm climate after the shift
(Rudy_Joe) Nancy, the Zetas
seem to have left God out of the formula.
(NancyL) Andyoch, does Heidi
predict? Accurate? This is our criteria for having Zetas comment. If she does
not do 1, 2, then she is NOT a ZetaTalk peer, could then be just hot air, as
many are.
(Zetapal) Rudy read Zetatalk and it won't SEEM so
(KarenL) I
have to go thanks Nancy and Zeta's same time next week :)
(Piet) Good time to
set things right with Christ
(Bailey) Nancy, will the Zetas coment on other
ET life visiting the earth at this time also and can and will they help
us?
(NancyL) Guest, I find ZT 100% accurate, look at the ZetaTalk Accuracy
TOPIC http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword232.htm
(Rudy_Joe) ZP: Zetatalk
says the ZTs don't know much about God.
(Beurling) Nancy: For how many
minutes will the earthquakes stands after the shift?
(Guest25) Nancy: yes,
when you ignore all the failures
(Guy) Baily, they can only warn
(Obany)
Baily: there is info in the World section, and also look in the Rules section
(NancyL) You want to say the inbound planet, sighted in 2001 and imaged
MOVING in Jan 2002 as predicted months earlier (Nov, 2001) was not this or that
mag.
(Bailey) Ty
(TerrorDactyl) Nancy, what you said 5 years ago about
Hale Bopp was wrong
(Jan) Nancy, the current erratic weather is probably
noticed by everybody, but still seen as a result of man-made global warming.
When can it be expected to be so bad, and earthquakes and volcanos adding in, so
that everybody and his brother will see that something is going on?
(Andyoch) Nancy --I assume you are aware of Heidi Hollis (who lives in
Milwaukee). Her contact (Cafth) says 1/3rd will be evacuated to another planet.
What do the Zeta's say about this?
(NancyL) But is was FOUND in the Zeta
location! MOVED during 2001 and 2002 in accordance with Zeta
predictions!
(Zetapal) Rudy then perhaps thats why they SEEM to have left Him
out
(Guest25) I don't have the maps here, but if the crust moves during one
hour, it should move around 10 000 km/h
(Guest25) That's
interesting
(NancyL) Guest, with your criteria for accuracy, you'd have NASA
on the streets if they had to abid by these rules.
(Guy) Lol
(Phoenix)
Rudy Joe-would you believe them if they said they knew more about God than
you?
(NancyL) They didn't say 100.111, they said 100.112 GASP!
(NancyL)
They are WRONG, etc.
(Vim) Lol
(NancyL) In fact, NASA was wrong about the
Sun's magnetic orientation, and just pretended it didn't happen.
(Guy) Dogma
bad
(MrCLittle) ZetaPal, dont answer questions directed to
Nancy.
(Guest25) So how fast will the crust move in km/h, Nancy?
:-)
(Rudy_Joe) I doubt the know more about God than any of us.
(NancyL)
But then, they are holy, and withhold the Hubble images, and tell mankind only
what they want them to know, or what the current spin is.
(TerrorDactyl) Rudy
- you assume there is a god at all?
(Bailey) I doubt any of us know much
about God
(Zetapal) Mr.C don't pretend to be in charge.
(NancyL) Guest, if
it is a 90 degree movement in the span of an hour, how fast is that?
(Spanky)
I heard that all entities clump together at 7th or 8th density, outside of time,
and this is what God is.
(Rudy_Joe) Yes, Science has proved the existence of
God, but as yet the ZTs haven't.
(MrCLittle) Dittos to you Zetapal
(Piet)
God can make more races that humans
(Ancalag0n) Science has proven
god?
(NancyL) Rudy, science has proved God? :-)
(TerrorDactyl) Science has
proved God - hahahahahaha
(Ancalag0n) Where was I?
(Guest25) If the PX
isn't here 15.5.2003, how much extra time are you willing to give to
it?
(Cybervviz) God is the most definined undefined Being
(Beurling) Miss.
Lieder: I would like to know for how many minutes will the crust move after the
shift?
(Rudy_Joe) Haven't you heard?
(Focus27) Andyoch: that is the
spiritual rapture in which STOs are rescued
(Guest25) Will you move the date
to july 2003, then fall 2003, then jan 2004 and so on?
(TerrorDactyl)
Nope
(Bailey) Good one cyber
(Vim) No Rudy - that's news to me
(NancyL)
OK folks, thanks for inspiring great ZetaTalk etc.
(SDakota007) Nancy please
ZT comment on West Nile virus
(Guest25) Will you move the date to july 2003,
then fall 2003, then jan 2004 and so on?
(NancyL) Time for me to close and
make supper, etc.
(Piet) Devils can come down to earth as demon's (embodied
devil spirits)
(Rudy_Joe) I'll tell you all about it when I get the
chance.
(Beurling) Bye et à la prochaine.
(Zetapal) Mr.C of course
(Guest25) So you don't want to answer?
(Cybervviz) Piet those devils are
mostly human souls with hate, fear and desires
(NancyL) Guest will tell
eveyone he was a BIG FAN and knew it all along when May 15, 2003 comes. That's
because we don't know who he is!
(NancyL) He can hide, like IMO
(Guest25)
Lol. Get a life =). Get an education =)
(NancyL) Bye all! Have a good night,
etc.
Session Close: Sat Aug 03 18:18:45 2002