Session Start: Sat Aug 17 16:39:33 2002
(AgentY) If I met a zeta, I'd most
likely kill it.
(Jurian) That sounds intelligent. You must be
American
(AgentY) Then I could drink its blood and see if it improved my
health.
(NancyL) AgentY assumes HE could kill a Zeta :-). So much for his
research into what goes on.
(Charlie) Yes, the website needs a setup page,
with irc.funnet.org listed, at a minimum.
(IdolHarobed) Great
mindset...
(Ummite) You suck
(IdolHarobed) :(
(Matt) You been listening
to Credo Mutwa agentY?
(Monk) You cant kill a zeta
(NancyL) I have a small
agenda today, 2 Q, will post for the early birds.
(AgentY) Credo
who?
(NancyL) CORE MOVIE
(NancyL) 1 www.thecoremovie.com. The trailer
shows dramatic footage, of violent earth changes, and talks about the fact that
the core "has stopped spinning", and that 'they' can't stop it. They mention the
fact that it's a 'mysterious force' that is causing the dramatic changes in the
core, and subsequent pole shift. I strongly sense that this seems to be a
not-too-subtle message to the general public.
(Jurian) Heh, for those who
cannot understand the instructions, a link to
http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~jurian/chat/ (or
http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~jurian/chat/big.html) should help :p
(Torbj)
Sing!
(NancyL) CONTOUR PROBLEMS
(NancyL) 1. NASA is having problems in big
ways, these days - cracks in the shuttle, the launching vehicles, and now a lost
and broken comet chaser. Is the probe truly lost or destroyed, or has it been
re-routed for a classified mission?
(NancyL) 2. What was the purpose of the
Contour, the comet-chasing spacecraft Nasa launched? And why was it lost?
http://www.msnbc.com/news/767296.asp?0dm=T15NT
(NancyL) Comet chaser and Core
movie.
(Matt) Oh. Zetans movie review...
(NancyL) So maybe we could take
another couple in case there is room at the end of the hour, most likely will be
...
(Okidok) Nancy can you take a look at this
cropcircle;http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2002/Crabwood/crabwood2002a.html
(Stphrz)
2. Nasa may find the spacecraft again
(Okidok) Its a zeta image
(NancyL) I
myself am very interested in the answer on the Contour comet chaser. NASA is
having SO many problems these days, what with hairline fractures in the Shuttles
and now the launching vehicles having same problems. (tisk!)
(HBO) Nancy: any
comments on the reported UFO dogfight that took place somewhere in Russia per
Rense article?
(Matt) Maybe a bit of intervention Nancy?
(Torbj)
Nancy...can I ask Zetawibes a Q for to night session?
(NancyL) Okidok, will
do, but is this the stupid alien face thing? Obviously a fake/hoax, but better
done than the others.
(Stphrz) The shuttle fleet is old and decrepid. No
surprise they are having trouble
(Ummite) NancyL: when a do sleep paralysis
I've never seen a ztea why? But in other way I sense a presence.
(Okidok) Its
a brand new circle came Friday
(EcclesP) Q: After the PS, what will become of
various ships and submarines at sea? How will fishing boats power their vessels
to bring in fish?
(IdolHarobed) Money shortage... Bad
maintainance.
(Charlie) Nancy, being in telepathic contact, can't you think a
question to the Zeta's at any time? You don't have to wait for the chats like
us. :)
(NancyL) Okidok, then I won't bother, as I saw it already. This is NOT
what the circle makers DO. Probably hired for the Signs movie producers
:-)
(Jurian) Heh, its a fake
(NancyL) Stphrz, have they not found it yet?
I heard, I thought, that it was found in pieces.
(Obany) It's so noticable
it's a fake ...
(Okidok) Probably? You are not sure
(NancyL) Hummm,
sounds like quarantine hand to ME.
(IdolHarobed) NancyL: Something about the
vast dense haze cloud menacing southern Asia?
(Jurian) There is no way you
can photograph a field, and have the 'roads' in it be parallel!
(Charlie) I
agree that the "alien portrait" crop circle is rather pathetic compared to
others.
(Lebrasse) Nancy, stock markets are well up still, has Greenspan
outmaneuvered the Zetas ?! ;-)
(Torbj) Is it too late to make a Q for the
tonight´s agenda?
(NancyL) HBO, can you give me details? I have a Q myself
that I'd like to add (am doing so and will combine this) re the Republican Party
split in US over Iraq.
(Piet) I have question on the cause of the FLOODS in
Europe and the rest of the world: Earth warming. ZT says PX causes the earth's
magnetic field to reorganize and that causes friction in the earth. Resulting
heat radiates to the sea and atmosphere. Other scientists say that 200 years of
industry causes the accumulation of CO2 in the atmosphere and this traps the
sun's rediation. Global warming is the result. (makes sense!) Could you defend
your posi
(Tizza) Nancy : in session past you informed us the quickening had
not yet started were as I and I think others thought this refered to the
"speeding up" of life to fenatic pace at this time... zeta description of the
quickening? Has this already been explained?
(HBO) Brb
(RudyJoe) I can't
think of any questions to ask, so I'll just listen.
(Kiril) Welcome to
all
(Lebrasse) Re IRAQ issue, Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz are strong
candidates for the most STS people on the planet!
(NancyL) Torbj, what is
your Q?
(Ummite) NancyL: when I do sleep paralysis I've never seen a zeta
why? But in other way I sense a presence.
(Torbj) WHY is Phobos moved? How is
this going to "lift" us?
(Obany) Ummite: maybe because it occured afterwards,
after your expierence?
(Monk) Ummite: thats too personal I dont think she
will answer
(NancyL) Lebrasse, re Stock Market, I understand heroic efforts
to turn confidence around in timing with Bush-for-TV meetings on economy. It
won't last.
(IdolHarobed) Piet: Warming began just some years ago. The
winters here in Brazil got very hotter just from mid 90's and beyond. And
industries is polluting in much more time.
(Desert9) NancyL: on worlds whose
intelligent species does not have a subconscious, how do visitations take place
during transformation, or do they just record in their conscious?
(Stphrz)
Ah, in two pieces I see.
(NancyL) Piet, forget what others say. The Floods
are not out of keeping with other continents experiences. Florida burned last
year, now drowns, the west US burns, etc.
(Dan33) NANCY? Where is the
closest planet with life that humans could recognize?
(NancyL) It is just
what the Zetas said, drought, deluge, turnabouts for no obvious
reasons.
(AgentY) too much israel news coverage here in the u.s. --- DAN33
its planet earth!!!
(San) Nancy, have the zetas ever mentioned
"Hessdalen"
(NancyL) Tizza, Zeta description of the quickening would be
people finally becoming aware, to the point of action, of Earth changes and the
elite coverup etc.
(NancyL) LeBrase, I'll vote for those STS candidate, yes
:-) May they roast in hell with their kind...
(Monk) Lol
(NancyL) Ummite,
sleep paralysis was answered last week.
(CyberVVizz) Hell is cold
(NancyL)
Torbj, who says Phobos moved?
(Matt) Maybe it would be better to wish them a
speedy awakening....
(Tizza) Nancy : I would have thought this was well in
motion by now
(Obany) And a lot of news about the situation in Germany,
Central Europe of course ... terrible floods
(Piet) Why did ZT say the space
station is planed to be completed in 2003 (signal of PX coming), but clearly
they are far from finished? Time for completion is 2006.
(NancyL) Desert9, on
worlds where no subconscious, visitations always in the conscious,
yes.
(Torbj) I do!
(NancyL) Read the Zeta recount of their awakening, as
they were conscious, and killed each other during awakening due to
fear/panic.
(AgentY) NancyL: is timetravel into the past
possible!
(NancyL) In Worlds, I think.
(Matt) Ok bad choice .... evolution
then
(NancyL) Aan, no re Hessdalen, and unless this entity predicts, and is
accurate, no comment.
(Dan33) Agenty its called history books!
(SteveH)
Maybe question for Z's, what percentage of 3rd world density entities have a
subconcious or not?
(Handlanger) Q: telep. transmissions; do the zetas
remember something like "I am the attractive lola" with the voice of M. Dietrich
some time ago? This is not a fun question...
(HBO)
http://www.rense.com/general28/filers81502.htm SEROV -- Vickie York reports,
"Hundreds of awestruck eyewitnesses watched in shock and disbelief as 36 UFOs
waged a spectacular dogfight above a Russian air base!"
(NancyL) Obany, the
floods, though local and all, are not news nor unexpected. Maybe you can view
this as a learning experience, how to get ready, what to expect.
(San)
Hesdalen is not a person it is a place in Norway with a very large occurence of
UFO activity
(NancyL) Especially in the Netherlands, which will go UNDER.
Where would you go in the event of a great flood there, before the shift, like
NOW?
(CyberVVizz) Germany ?
(Kiril) Please help why there are not safe loc
in Bulgaria?
(NancyL) HBO thanks, UFO dogfight, not likely, but we'll see
what the Z's have to say.
(NancyL) OK, the hour is upon us, I'll
start.
(Obany) I know it will get under, and I will move of
course
(AgentY) If I time travel, to birth of universe, can I prevent Big
Bang from occurring, and therefore time never existed to begin with.
(HenryK)
Here is an interesting site for sea temperature anomalies
"http://152.80.49.210/products/OTIS/otis_glbl_sstanomaly.gif".
(NancyL) CORE
MOVIE
(NancyL) 1 www.thecoremovie.com. The trailer shows dramatic footage, of
violent earth changes, and talks about the fact that the core "has stopped
spinning", and that 'they' can't stop it. They mention the fact that it's a
'mysterious force' that is causing the dramatic changes in the core, and
subsequent pole shift. I strongly sense that this seems to be a not-too-subtle
message to the general public.
(NancyL) ZT: Recent movie releases in the US
have had a distinct message, not lost on those watching the trends with a
discerning eye.
(NancyL) ZT: Unlike a decade ago, when Westerns, romance,
cops and robbers, and sci-fi on outer or inner space dominated the screen, the
new releases in the past decade have had a new array.
(NancyL) ZT: Deep
Impact, which talked about an asteroid approaching and the difficulty of
deflecting such an approach.
(NancyL) ZT: Postman, which was an Aftertime of
sorts, after an unnamed event that caused the US government heads in Washington
DC to be wiped out, and civilization set back to centuries ago.
(NancyL) ZT:
Waterworld, which talked about the poles melting to the extent that the globe
was virtually covered with water, implying a heated core, the only reference to
cause being a type of Global Warming caused by human action.
(NancyL) ZT:
Volcano, wherein a volcano erupts in central LA, and life goes on.
(NancyL)
ZT: Signs, which implies that the increase in Crop Circles is due to something
eminent, and does not hesitate to state this is a planned alien invasion, not
unlike ID4, wherein mankind saves the globe by going mano-a-mano with aliens, an
unlikely scenario.
(NancyL) ZT: And now Core, where terms such as pole shift
and stopped rotation and periodic occurence are thrown about.
(NancyL) ZT:
And what does all this mean? Clearly mankind, at least in the US where the movie
releases are sure to get coverage, is supposed to subconsciously adjust to such
terms and concepts.
(NancyL) ZT: Is there not a coverup? And does this not
conflict with the thrust of the coverups wherein NO mention of these
possibilities occurs?
(NancyL) ZT: As we have mentioned before, the elite,
those in power, are not of one mind.
(NancyL) ZT: Some wish to keep ALL
mention out of the news, NO inference, so that the public is left to assume
their weather or crop or quake problems are local, not global.
(NancyL) ZT:
This is the approach the Bush Administration is taking, all pole shift plays
burried into Homeland Security.
(NancyL) ZT: But others, who are not under
the thumb of the Bush Administration, are of a different mind, and proceed
without conferring.
(NancyL) ZT: The Media is not utterly controlled, contray
to appearances, nor production of new releases.
(NancyL) ZT: Who runs counter
to the Bush Administration and those in close alliance? MOST of the wealthy,
MOST elite in other countries suspecting or aware of the coming changes, MOST in
the US military and thus MOST want the public to become aware, at least in
theory, and prepare.
(NancyL) ZT: What is this latest movie, the Core, and
the prior movies supposed to relay?
(NancyL) ZT: That these issues, these
occurences, can happen, that the powers that be are hard pressed to solve or
resolve them, that many people die, that the elite, the government, cares and
tries.
(NancyL) ZT: In other words, don't demand perfection, don't demand to
be saved, don't demand more from your government or caretakers than can be
expected, as they are only human and are themselves overwhelmed.
(NancyL) ZT:
You will note that all these movies HAVE a resolution, a happy ending, where the
pole shift will NOT, and therein lies the greatest fiction.
(NancyL) ZT: In
addition, those in power stay calm, confer with each other, tell the public the
truth in news releases, and FUNCTION.
(NancyL) ZT: In truth, as the recent
rash of murders at Fort Brag, NC reveal, those expected to be calm and super
human under stress do NOT FUNCTION.
(NancyL) ZT: Our advice in watching such
movies is to be entertained, but not mislead.
(NancyL) End ZT
Followup?
(Pott) Thats a lot of nothing.
(RC) Ha
(Pott) Seems no one
has many ideas
(RudyJoe) Well, as we know, Hollywood is a big part of the
government's mind control machine. They use it to manufacture public opinion as
they please. Its the same with TV, radio, newspapers, magazines, the internet,
etc... Is there anything ordinary folks can do to escape this insidious and
incessant mind mashing propaganda?
(Piet) Mislead?
(EcclesP) Q: Is any
part of the "Mission to Mars" movie about the aliens' history or the face at
Sidona on Mars based on fact?
(Charlie) My god that takes forever. You know
the agenda ahead of time, couldn't you get the zeta's first response, paste it
from a text file and save us 15 minutes? ;)
(NancyL) Pott, YOU'RE a lot of
nothing. What have you ever given mankind?
(Pott) Crazy talk from a crazy old
woman
(QueenVee) What is behind the murders at Fort Bragg?
(Handlanger)
Huh
(CyberVVizz) I did not known zeta's have a TV or watch movies
:-)
(Obany) !kickban pott
(BaUdRaTe) My god. You people are actually
listening to this? We might as well be chatting with Chomsky. He never takes a
position. Just like the so-called zeta.
(NancyL) Rudy, but this movie is NOT
what the Bush Admin would want!
(Piet) This is my sum of all fears!
(Matt)
Leonard Multon would be proud
(Reticuli) Chomsky rules :)
(NancyL) Ecc, I
think I saw that once, and did not find it fact based at all.
(Vim) Cyber -
they can look through your eyes ;)
(RudyJoe) I don't think the Bush Admin
knows what they want.
(Charlie) This is really nothing earth shattering.
Let's get to what to do with the elite now, or what are we going to do with them
after the shift.
(NancyL) Charlie, the IRC response is NOT prepared ahead of
time, no.
(Charlie) All is fine in fiction whether it is a movie, book, TV
show, it's all safe. Let's get to some controversy.
(NancyL) Queen, this was
address last week or week before, re Fort Brag, check the log.
(BaUdRaTe) I
can hardly wait until this time next year. Then, we'll all have a good laugh and
avert our eyes.
(CyberVVizz) Through mediums eyes, certainly not mine, I am
shielded :-)
(Torbj) To take position means "attach".... please be
"nonattach".... and you will hear a lot of "singing"!
(Stphrz) "When Worlds
Collide": 1951,
(JeanMarie) The PS will speed up the earth transformation and
shift to 4th density isn'it an happy ending?
(NancyL) Baud, so leave the
room. You'll get your money back at the door :-)
(Shaman464) Will the
government ever tell us the full story in enough time to let us
prepare?
(Charlie) We all know the Bush administration sucks. What are we all
going to DO about it?
(Stphrz) "When Worlds Collide": 1951,
(QueenVee)
QUESTION: Is the recent "alien head" crop circle a hoax, and is the recent crop
circle that appeared in Idaho a genuine communication?
(Stphrz) "Meteor":
starring Natalie Wood 1979
(NancyL) Queen, a hoax, clearly.
(Charlie)
BaUdRaTe: that may be true, but why do humans always cling to end of times
prophecies? We have a lot to learn here about the human psyche.
(NancyL) OK
onto Q2 as the followup is not related etc.
(CyberVVizz) Recent? Look to
temporarytemples.co.uk, the latest is some week ago!
(NancyL) CONTOUR
PROBLEMS
(NancyL) 1. NASA is having problems in big ways, these days - cracks
in the shuttle, the launching vehicles, and now a lost and broken comet chaser.
Is the probe truly lost or destroyed, or has it been re-routed for a classified
mission?
(NancyL) 2. What was the purpose of the Contour, the comet-chasing
spacecraft Nasa launched? And why was it lost?
http://www.msnbc.com/news/767296.asp?0dm=T15NT
(NancyL) ZT: Lately NASA has
had a series of setbacks, back-to-back and seemingly without
stoppage.
(NancyL) ZT: It this a coincidence, or the hand of
interference?
(NancyL) ZR: We have stated since the start of ZetaTalk that a
quarantine exists between humans on Earth and the inhabitants of the 12th
Planet, aka Planet X.
(NancyL) ZT: The reasons for this quarantine are that
the heavy hand of the giant hominoids from Planet X, who were mining for gold on
Earth, were distrupting what the Council of Worlds considers a balance in the
STO/STS nature of the world emerging souls are presented with.
(NancyL) ZT:
The giant hominoids were more technologically advance than the humans of the
day, who were no more advanced than Third World countries not yet in contact
with what mankind terms modern civilization.
(NancyL) ZT: They were
essentially hunters and gatherers, though intelligent, living in huts and
hunting.
(NancyL) ZT: The giant hominoids arrived on rockets, had lasers,
could ride high on personal rockets and land at a distance, thus seemed to
command the skies.
(NancyL) ZT: Humans were terrified, enslaved, abused, and
the giant hominoids sent down for long mining missions determined to KEEP them
there.
(NancyL) ZT: The quarantine was imposed in such a way that the giants
did not DISCERN that this was occuring by an outside hand.
(NancyL) ZT: They
had technical difficulties, sudden weather that swamped their ships, attacks by
carnivors on the road that were hard to explain by history and experience, and,
finally decided to leave Earth for the relative quiet of Mars.
(NancyL) ZT:
Now, does this not seem similar to recent problems NASA is having?
(NancyL)
ZT: Technical difficulties, and among those we will list 1. the cracks in the
shuttles, causing them to be grounded until inspected and repaired.
(NancyL)
ZT: 2. the similar cracks found in the vehicles used to position the shuttles,
as takeoff and landing are touchy times and no one wants a repeat of the
fireworks caused by a simple O-Ring years ago.
(NancyL) ZT: 3. the lost
probes that went seeking to peek at Phobos, the moon of Mars being currently
mined by the giant hominoids.
(NancyL) ZT: 4. the destruction, without
explanation, of the current reputed comet chaser, Contour, which was NOT simply
out to check the comets reported to the public, as many suspect.
(NancyL) ZT:
What is the reason for these disasters, outside of the quarantine, and what was
the true missions the equipment disabled were upon?
(NancyL) ZT: It is
obvious that the prob failing at Mars was disabled so that mankind could not SEE
what was going on, on Phobos.
(NancyL) ZT: Left in the dark, they could only
assume NO activity there.
(NancyL) ZT: This was not disabled by the giant
hominoids, but by hands directed by the Council of Worlds.
(NancyL) ZT: The
Shuttles were disabled to make the message CLEAR to those hoping to leave Earth,
hopping to Mars or outside the influence of a pole shift on the surface of
Earth, that escape will NOT be allowed.
(NancyL) ZT: We have stated this,
years ago, and now you see the force behind those words.
(NancyL) ZT: Do they
think they will go aloft, get the space station operational as a launding spot,
and actually make Mars habitable until a return to Earth post-shift?
(NancyL)
ZT: Should this scenario be sold to the dumb, rich, and frightened, it will no
longer fly.
(NancyL) ZT: NO ONE save the utterly gulible would buy into the
statement that NASA can succeed, now.
(NancyL) ZT: And why disable the
Contour, which ostensibly was only going out on a probing tour.
(NancyL) ZT:
This probe, as you might imagine, was NOT going to head for some silly dirty
snowball, but was heading straight for the beef, Planet X.
(NancyL) ZT: There
it was to report all manner of information, destined to alarm mankind as to the
habitation of this inbound planet, the technology of this inbound planet, and
there you are with mankind having their balance between STS and STO influences
disrupted!
(NancyL) ZT: How would this information be used, by those on
Earth, to the disadvantage of the average emerging soul?
(NancyL) ZT: Not
unlike the movies ID4, and Signs, wherein mankind was to CLING to their
government, who would save them, this information would be used to allow STS
governments virtual power to do ANYTHING to their public, in the name of their
protection.
(NancyL) ZT: Look to how the US, the Bush Administration, has
used the WTC attack to attempt to remove ALL civil rights, the right to trial,
the right to charges make public, the right to an attorney, and substitute
decisions made SOLELY by a handful of power mad in the White House
alone.
(NancyL) ZT: The Supreme Court acting like a Kangaroo Court, in
putting Bush in the White House.
(NancyL) ZT: The Congress NOT to be saved in
the event of an attack on DC, only those in the White House considered to be
important.
(NancyL) ZT: What does this say, regarding what an even GREATER
threat would allow?
(NancyL) ZT: The horror is not what is approaching, as
survivors will survive in spite of being imformed, and those in control of the
Contour information would not be any more considerate of the public's needs than
they are today, during their coverups.
(NancyL) ZT: The horror is what the
public would allow, going INTO the pole shift, should such STS dominated
governments, who desire WORLD domination, be empowered with
information.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the probe, which would have returned
information that could be used to these ends, was zapped.
(NancyL) End ZT
Followup?
(ChiefSimi) Why do the Annunnaki still mine the Phobos? It is very
small. I mean it is strange that they stay there for thousands of years when
they could mine it in a few years?
(Piet) Where does the giants live? On
Planet X? That's impossible.
(RudyJoe) So you're saying that the Council of
Worlds' quarantine prevents us from blowing up PlanetX? In effect, preventing us
from defending ourselves? In other words, we can't blow up PlanetX because it is
quarantined? But, it is OK for it to sweep by and kill of 90% of the folk here
on Earth? You say, "Escape is not allowed." Is that reasonable?
(Charlie) We
all know NASA is serving the elite. Why do we not pass some legislation to end
the foolish space research and fix some problems here on earth with the
money?
(Dsf231)
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2002/Crabwood/crabwood2002a.html QUESTION: Is
the recent "alien head" crop circle a hoax, and is the recent crop circle that
appeared in Idaho a genuine communication?
(BaUdRaTe) Everyone: After careful
analysis of the blatent spelling errors, grammar and colloqialisms characterized
when Nancy is "channelling", I have come to the conclusion that the Zeta's are a
fiction, ergo Planet X in Spring 2003 is fiction. Beings with +200 IQ's don't
make spelling and grammatical errors. I need to get a life. This stuff is a
waste of my time. Planet X. I must be out of my mind.
(EcclesP) When most of
modern civilization is thrown back to the status of third-world countries, how
do we advance our civilizations as fast and sure as possible? Will we be
assisted? Will our energy sources be based on wind, hydro plants, refined oil or
nuclear generation?
(Charlie) Why could senators not pass laws against them?
What interest groups are protecting the space agency, and how?
(Shaman464)
Why did Voyager get thourgh the quarantine?
(Longint) Does a die out threaten
the giant hominoids because of shortage of gold?
(Charlie) If the quarantine
is keeping up out of space, revise it! Zeta's have said we are at an advantage
now because of technical advances and larger population. Let us back into our
SPACE! We have already voted on orientation!
(Reticuli) Nancy, what is the
mechanism wherby a probe is "zapped"
(Charlie) The truth is, maybe the
Council of Worlds is keeping us down so WE do not conquer this solar system.
They are afraid of US.
(Charlie) Humans are a great potential genetically to
serve the higher STS realms. ET's know this.
(CyberVVizz) In a recent
article I saw there is an increase of commercial companies raising up some
'Military Support Services for Sale' After polarshift, how shall those groups be
handled (if they survive)?
(Charlie) Let's talk about how humans could
eventually take over this solar ring, hook up with the Lyrans, and make some
real trouble for the Council.
(Charlie) Zeta's, we are not the only species
that grows tired of the Council's baby-sitting. This will backfire on them. The
rebellion will not end, even after this universe ends.
(Jeremy) Why did the
elite hope to escape to Mars in the first place, given that man has no
spacecraft capable of doing the journey?
(Charlie) You are keeping us in a
bubble of suspended choices! STS/STO balance disrupted. That is the whole point
of this existence here! We are wasting time in this life if this "balance" is
not allowed a natural flow.
(GovernmentAgent) BaUdRaTe: of course it's
fiction. anyone with some common sense understands that.
(Stphrz) Jeez, like
NASA hasn't royally fucked up before?
(BaUdRaTe) GA: So why am I still
here?
(Mike-O) Do the highest reaches of world governments read this ZetaTalk
session weekly, hanging on every word?
(Jeremy) Good question,
Mike-O
(NancyL) ZT to Chief re Phobos: This moon was chosen for its mineral
composition. Why do you suppose that Gold is only in small amounts? On Phobos it
was the MAJOR component.
(Samsara2003) Mike-O --- Good question! Nancy - can
the Zetas respond to that
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, setup as they were, they had no
reason to move, and were content.
(NancyL) Rudy, mankind can't blow up Px as
it is an inhabited planet, but we'd not be able to anyway, not skilled enough,
etc.
(Piet) Has gold some high property that we don't know
of?
(AGreenspan) 1.And contacting US government in the late 40's is NOT a
violation of rules? 2.It was clearly stated that the probe was destroyed by the
aliens mining of Phoebos
(GovernmentAgent)
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_umsgid=%3Ctav69.187932%24L02.8661933%40news1.west.cox.net%3E&lr=&hl=en
(BaUdRaTe)
Baudrate to ZT: Should I buy gold stocks or should I sell short on the US
dollar?
(NancyL) Charlie, pass legislation to end NASA etc? Sure, just go
arrange this!
(Reticuli) Nancy, what is the mechanism whereby a probe is
"zapped"?
(Charlie) BaUdRaTe: stay tuned.
(Domicile) This may be one of
the 12th Planets mining ships
http://www.skiesare.demon.co.uk/phobufo.jpg
(Piet) Or is it just nice and
shiny?
(NancyL) BaUd, have you not left yet? Please give him his money back
and show him the door.
(CyberVVizz) Q:In a recent article I saw there is an
increase of commercial companies raising up some 'Military Support Services for
Sale' After polarshift, how shall those groups be handled (if they survive)
?
(Reticuli) :)
(Charlie) The probe monster materializes and munches the
silicon morsel.
(Torbj) You can of course look for this "silly dirty
snowball" in your skies now..... as it is circulating earth....
(BaUdRaTe)
Nancy: No, Allow me...
(Charlie) Let those who disagree stay. A room with no
arguments left is pointless.
(Vim) Baudrate seems to be having a change of
heart
(NancyL) Ecc, please read the Transformation section. It will NOT be
mankind's civilization, it will be a NEW civilization.
(RudyJoe) Not skilled
enough? Of course we are. Blowing up planets is what our governments do
best!
(Vim) Rude be real
(Jurian) That's what makes this a bad thing tho,
Nancy
(GovernmentAgent)
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_umsgid=%3Ctav69.187932%24L02.8661933%40news1.west.cox.net%3E&lr=&hl=en
(DuncanC)
Lol, Rudy
(NancyL) Charlie, they could kill JFK, and keep the Hubble images
from being released, and you think there is no power in these hands?
(Spanky)
Or they could just put a big nuclear powered electromagnet to soften the
pole-shift effects
(Jurian) Who is the Council of Worlds to decide humanity
is to be phased out, for a new life form?
(NancyL) They recently stole the
White House, in front of the whole world!
(Charlie) Rudy: right on. We can do
whatever we put our minds to. An advanced drill, make a deep hole, nuclear
explosion deep within the planet. Dim their atmosphere. Biological weapon. Lots
of ways to destroy them.
(Shaman464) Who is they?
(Vim) Jurian, it's
happened before - remember Big Foot and the ones that came before?
(DuncanC)
Shaman464: powerful clique, see: www.almartinraw.com
(Jeremy) Humans can
survive in the long term, if we have the will and the right attitude
(Jurian)
Vim: I know
(Merlin) I was thinking that same thing spanky
(DuncanC)
Bilderbergers, etc
(Emmanuel) Why would we want to destroy "them" the planet
is still coming with them on it or not
(NancyL) ZT to Shaman: Up until the
present, the apparent accidents NASA was having were given as warnings to them
and their masters, but this message was not heeded.
(Shaman464) I can become
part of the government, its not hard, wouldn;t the one who broke this news win
any election?
(Stphrz) C'mon why would the zetas care at all about our petty
elections or who is in the White House?
(Charlie) Emmanuel: revenge for
hundreds of thousands of years of bondage. :)
(Dsf231) By the time you finish
drilling earth would be in 5th density
(Jurian) Imho, its very very wrong for
any "Council of Worlds" to decide the fate of an entire race, even if they
believe it to be for the better.
(NancyL) ZT: We and the Council allowed
success, as this tends to pull the motivations of those conducting such
campaigns OUT where they can not only be surmised, but proven.
(Vim) Jurian -
humanity might live on in isolated places - they simply won't be everywhere like
they are now
(Shaman464) What about Voyager?
(GovernmentAgent) So you're
not going to answer this?
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_umsgid=%3Ctav69.187932%24L02.8661933%40news1.west.cox.net%3E&lr=&hl=en
(Shaman464)
Why did it get through?
(NancyL) ZT: You might call this a form of bait and
switch, where they were lead to belive they could succeed, while being given the
message that accidents could happen, and not by accident.
(Jurian) Vim : I
know :-)
(Merlin) Nancy: How are the inhabitants of Planet X
ruled?
(NancyL) ZT: As with 911, where the Bush Administration was AWARE that
they were being warned, were being told just what would happen, and ignored
this, likewise they ignored these warnings.
(Jurian) Still, what gives them
the right to decide over us?
(Vim) It's for our benefit
(CyberVVizz) They
are our Parents
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, their successes were NOT an indication of
the future, but to demonstrate their motives to all, and this time is at an
end.
(Stphrz) Bah
(QueenVee) QUESTION: Will there be further attempts by
the US to intercept Planet X?
(SteveH) Government, the Z's answered that
question last week
(NancyL) ZT: The gloves are off now.
(Charlie) Jurian:
they are more advanced, so they think it is their "duty" to "mold" the children
in the direction they think is "best"
(NancyL) End ZT to Chief.
(Spanky)
Nancy: will the elite try to ride out the shift on submarines, since water acts
as a cushion. Dick Cheny is already doing this.
(Jurian) Children need to
make their own mistakes, learn themselves.
(RainMan) Are you saying there
will be no more Shuttle missions?
(NancyL) Longint, the giants are not short
of gold.
(Jurian) Being guided, or being forced in a certain direction, is a
sign of bad parenting, Imho
(Stphrz) RainMan: there will be of
course
(NancyL) Charlie, your plan does not sound STO :-)
(Charlie)
Jurian: yeah, but these parents don't think so. They put us here, evolved us,
and they want a return on their investment. :)
(NancyL) Charlie in
revolt!
(Piet) Is the Cassini probe meant to stop PX (Saturn is directly on
the way to PX)
(Vim) Jurian - think of it as being given a faster sports car
instead of your old Volkswagen beetle. I'm not complaining.
(GovernmentAgent)
I've tried to ask this before, you refused to answer. someone posted it, and you
didn't answer. I'm asking again, what's your reply to this? ::
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_umsgid=%3Ctav69.187932%24L02.8661933%40news1.west.cox.net%3E&lr=&hl=en
(NancyL)
ZT to Mike-O: they have their reporters here, now.
(Jurian) Vim: no, that
analogy is flawed
(Vim) I'm done talking about this - think what you
want
(Reticuli) Nancy, by what does mechanism does the Council of Worlds
cause spacecraft to be disabled?
(Charlie) GovernmentAgent: people have been
arguing about that every week. They explained it already, the air, planet,
people, all move together, so the point is mute.
(Shaman464) Why haven't the
zetan contacted Bush or someone high up in the government?
(GovernmentAgent)
Charlie: if the crust moves like Nancy claims, nobody will survive. It'll
melt
(Vim) Nancy - are there more questions on the agenda or is it free-chat
untill the hours is up?
(NancyL) ZT to AGreen: Phobos probe was destroyed by
the giants mining Phobos, but this was ASSISTED to succeed. Had they not
succeeded, we would have. Thus, it is not the effort of the giants that
determined the outcome.
(NancyL) End ZT to AGreen.
(Piet) Is the Cassini
probe meant to stop PX (Saturn is directly on the way to PX)
(Obany) People
if you have problems with Govemrentagent, just use /ignore .....
(Charlie)
GovernmentAgent: their are pages and pages of evidence of past pole shifts. Who
cares about the exact mechanics. The issue is, something big is coming to
disrupt everything. What are we going to do about it.
(ChiefSimi) Re: ZT to
Chief re Phobos: This moon was chosen for its mineral composition. Why do you
suppose that Gold is only in small amounts?
(ChiefSimi) Because I'm
stupid
(CyberVVizz) Obany you should set this in your 10 minutes returning
message
(NancyL) Baud, I knew you were an STS money dealing soul. Give it to
the poor, that's my suggestion.
(Focus27) Will the Zetas help repair the
earth's atmosphere post PS
(AGreenspan) Thank you, and the first part of the
Q.?
(Stphrz) I would like to hear an answer to GovernmentAgent's
question
(NancyL) Save your soul, Baud.
(QueenVee) Nancy, will there be
further attempts by the US to intercept Planet X?
(Dsf231) Is the sun's
magnetic field blocking the effect of PX's magnetic field on earth when it is
behind the sun?
(SteveH) How much more advanced is the technology of the
inhabitants of PX than humans?
(NancyL) Reti, does it matter? There are a
zillion ways the Zetas or others could zap a probe.
(Vim) Steve - Zetas have
said that we're pretty much equal by now
(Charlie) Stphrz: read last weeks
log for answers about shift killing everyone because of g-forces and all that
physics.
(Obany) Stephrz: so you expect here to go to that page, then read it
etc... what use does it have
(Stphrz) Charlie: I did
(Piet) Are there any
Christians here?
(Dsf231) Is the sun's magnetic field blocking the effect of
PX's magnetic field on earth when it is behind the sun?
(Stphrz)
Insufficient
(Reticuli) Nancy, I am interested in new technology and
physics
(Charlie) Piet, oh yes, I'm sure a lot of us are Christians here.
:)
(Obany) Vim: equal as equal in STO, not equal in technology
(CyberVVizz) But no Catholic or Protestant or ...
(Jurian) Rofl
(Piet)
OK, I thought I was alone
(AGreenspan) In addition, I posted a question on
telepathy for the fourth time, if it could be acknowledge, please.
(NancyL)
ZT to Jurian re mankinds next leap forward: These decisions, as hard as it may
be for those affected to comprehend, are NOT without input from those
affected.
(Vim) No - they said we're ahead of them when it coms to STO/STS,
but relatively equal in tech.
(Shaman464) Why are so many going to
die?
(Charlie) You're never alone in Christ, brother.
(Piet) These aliens
are hard to factor in!
(NancyL) ZT: As we have mentioned in the Hybrid
section, Neanderthal man was in agreement with having his version of mankind,
afflicted with tummy problems NOT pleasant to live with.
(Nefesh5762) I am in
New Orleans at the mouth of the Miss river and we are 3 feet below sea level as
well; whatdo you think is the prognosis
(Jurian) Nancy / Z's: I know, I'm
just saying, maybe they should be?
(NancyL) ZT: Vote were taken, and they
were in agreement.
(Shakti) Where will the hybrid communities be
located?
(SteveH) I think they said we had superiority in
numbers
(CyberVVizz) No Piet, take a snap to the missing book of
Enoch
(NancyL) ZT: Votes that are a true vote are NOT akin to the voting that
occurs on Earth, publically announced.
(Spanky) Nancy: was the Bryce Canyon
formations a 12th Planet hominoid sculpture? it seems like Easter Island with
full bodies instead of heads
(RudyJoe) Was it a secret ballot?
(Jurian) If
humanity would have voted to do this "by itself", would the Council of Worlds
have allowed that?
(Charlie) Zeta's, come talk to more of us. You need some
second opinions about how humans feel.
(NancyL) ZT: In these votes, there is
hardly a choice, the choices placed before the voters NOT what they would put
there, but what the elite have allowed to be placed there.
(JoeyB)
Nefesh5762: As a former N.O. native, my advice: party and get out ;)
(SteveH)
How was the question of the vote presented to mankind?
(Shaman464) Why wont
they help us?
(Obany) Shakti: I don't think that the Zetas will mention where
the Hybrid communities will be found
(NancyL) ZT: In addition, actual
counts, as the last US Presidential election demonstrated, are hardly what
matters or to be reported accurately.
(Dsf231) Jupiter has a strong magnetic
field why doesn't it affect earth?
(Nefesh5762) That is my gut feeling..too
JoeyB
(Charlie) We can handle our own stupid elite! Now as for the higher
density beings arranging our spiritual evolution...
(Piet) The Bible
mentioned that Giants came down and had children with the daughters of men in
Genisis 6. This was always a mystery for me.
(Wage) If voting changed
anything, they'd make it illegal...
(Jeremy) Are the hybrids alive now
already incarnated with souls?
(Vim) Yes
(CyberVVizz) Piet, the book of
Enoch goes further on this, and it's marvelous !
(NancyL) ZT: Why would STO
souls, who are the MAJORITY of reincarnating terran souls, NOT want their
children, or themselves for that matter, to be more intelligent, less subject to
disease, and have more opportunities?
(Spanky) They bred Black/Niburian
hybrids to make a slave that wasn't as puny by their standards.
(Vim) Jeremy
- living on surface of mars in 4'th density, and some on ocean
floor.
(Lovestarr) Because they don't want alien bodies
(Shaman464) They
know only 20% will show up to vote and most of them are old folks
(RudyJoe)
Nancy, can you comment on how our government controls the Press?
(Obany) Okay
.. hush hush
(NancyL) ZT: Clearly, the vote went TO be engineered, for
future incarnations. It was a slam-dunk, as you say.
(NancyL) End ZT to
Jurian.
(Charlie) Zeta's! Why do you tell us so little! There is so much more
going on. The other groups here! Your different groups. Shed some light on the
unseen situation! We do not have your 4th density abilities.
(Nefesh5762)
Nefililim.. Annunaki .. Giants... check out www.stevequayle.com
(Jeremy) I
still hope many good humans survive for the long term
(Dsf231) Jupiter has a
strong magnetic field why dosen't it affect Earth?
(Jurian) Nancy / Z's: Oh,
I understand that very well, and it makes sense, but consciously, I am pretty
sure a lot of people feel they have nothing to say over this :-)
(Jurian)
Dsf231: of course it does
(Charlie) Piet: that just explains how we got to be
different from the ape, basically. We didn't just get a soul by accident.
:)
(NancyL) I have one more Q, accepted at start of session, so will quickly
do it ...
(NancyL) DISSENTION IN ELITE
(NancyL) 1. What does the reported
dissention in the Republican Party, over Iraq, with Kissinger and Snowcrof
voicing opposition to Bush plans, represent?
(NancyL) 2. Nancy: any comments
on the reported UFO dogfight that took place somewhere in Russia per Rense
article?
(Obany) Dfs231: that question already has been adressed
(NancyL)
ZT: It is apparent by mid-2002 that the US allies are NOT with Bush on Iraq, nor
are there any Arab allies.
(NancyL) ZT: Yet the Bush Adminsitration presses
on with its plans for a major distraction, designed to allow them to remove all
civil rights in the US, win the fall elections and return the Senate to
Republican hands, and prepare for the coming pole shift like kings who cannot be
countered.
(NancyL) ZT: Dissention has thus gone public, and this is apparent
in other countries as well.
(NancyL) ZT: Recently a report was made that a
UFO dogfight occurred over a Russian base.
(NancyL) ZT: Oh? This when the
Awakening requires an Element of Doubt, and STS/STO engagements are tighly
controlled by the Council of Worlds?
(NancyL) ZT: This is also utterly out of
keeping with past reports of sightings, which NEVER included a fight between
UFO's.
(NancyL) ZT: What is this all about? It is about blaming the aliens,
once again, for human activities.
(NancyL) ZT: UFO"s reported around the WTC,
so they must have been responsible, somehow.
(NancyL) ZT: UFO's reported
buzzing the White House, so they are against good-ol Bush and all.
(NancyL)
ZT: The Russians are experiencing dissention in their ranks TOO, and why would
they not?
(NancyL) ZT: You have those in the know, who want to tell their
public about the surmise on the coming inbound planet, and earth changes, and
potential for a devastating 2003.
(NancyL) ZT: And just as in the US, where
the power mad are lusting after a kingship akin to the Dark Ages when NO
opposition could be mustered, there are those elements in Russia and Britain and
Australia.
(NancyL) ZT: Who was fighting, then, over that Russian base, and
what was the fight about?
(NancyL) ZT: Assassinations occur often, most often
covered up as accidents, but when the heat is on, outright attempts to blow up
the opposition, en mass, occur.
(NancyL) ZT: Having broken out, the right
attempting to eliminate what in essensense is the left, in Russian, that portion
of the political structure that is most concerned about the common man,
...
(NancyL) ZT: a coverup was needed, and UFO's were thrown in as the
excuse.
(NancyL) ZT: Have you seen the video? The film? No, and not likely,
as the reporters are telling you what THEY were told to relay.
(NancyL) ZT:
Those wanting a different story told are now mum, and permanently
so.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Volare) Nothing is more discouraging than
not being able to see PX. Surely it can be seen by now. Ask the Zetans to
release new coordinates to us.
(RudyJoe) Nancy, is it true that the Russians
nuked a Zetan underground base near Nova Zemlya several years ago?
(Piet)
What density are the Counsil of Worlds?
(Howmo) So, Nancy, do you STILL say
your coordinates are unviewable?
(NancyL) Piet, higher than yours, and that's
all you need to know.
(Lebrasse) Nancy, Z's didnt explain WHY
Kissinger/Scowcroft have gone against Perle/Wolfowitz crowd?
(Zod) The cargo
planed which collided with another plane and killed the Russian kids. WAS THIS
AN ACCIDENT?
(Charlie) It's the same foolish humans who allow the elite to
continue that voted for this lousy genetic engineering project! I would have
rather joined with the 12th Planet hominoids!
(jwilliam) Question to Vim: -
does "pim" mean anything to you? I have my reasons for asking.
(Piet) At
least not seven.
(Charlie) In fact, perhaps humans can hook up with the 12th
Planet inhabitants and unite to stop this Council of Worlds dictatorship. We
will have to wait until the 12th Planet's harvest, but you will have something
to contend with, I guarantee it.
(Wage) Missed first part of
question
(NancyL) Volare, are you Howmo by another name? Sept 15th, no
sooner.
(Samsara2003) Nancy: How many in official government offices / elite
listen to zetatalk?
(Charlie) How many universes are going to continue to use
this evolutionary model? Perhaps we will get a CHANCE to do it a different way
here.
(Handlanger) More US politics... I am tired of :] but I dont care. :P
so head on...
(Charlie) Zetas: because you are taking away our HAIR, our
VOICES, our VIOLENCE, everything that makes us the unique evolved creation that
we are! You will never pollute our genetics completely. I will make sure of
that.
(Charlie) Disease is opportunity! It is a learning experience of this
reality. Do not rob us of it! Increased intelligence does not mean increased
quality of life! The simple people of this world are happier than the most
advanced. Our intelligence has brought us great misery as well as
greatness.
(NancyL) Oops, no, Howmo is here with us yet.
(Charlie) Give us
a chance to agree to the genetic changes to be inserted into our genome! Things
are always done to us without our input. All the past engineering has created
our fragmented levels of consciousness, our repressed hidden reptilian brain,
our disconnected strands of telepathic ability...
(Charlie) There ARE
Extraterrestrials all over the planet with their own agenda's, for good and bad.
We need to KNOW about their existence. So the more ET stuff happening, the
better to awaken people.
(Howmo) Yes, I am.
(Shaman464) Why does the
Council want this to happen to us?
(RudyJoe) They want to steal our
gold.
(Howmo) Got an answer to my question?
(NancyL) Charlie wants his
violence. Shall we vote on his orientation? STO?
(Spanky) The 12th Planet
harvest will occur probably when they run out of gold and their atmosphere burns
out
(phoenix) Q: How many STS/STO in the session now?
(Volare) Do the
Zetans say that light travels in straight lines?
(CyberVVizz) Piet, seven is
not the Highest :-)
(NancyL) Shaman, it is a natural occurence. You have
tornadoes. You're not asking why the Council allows this?
(NancyL) What is
the DIFFERENCE?
(Spanky) Nancy: there are some reports that Roswell was a
dogfight.
(Piet) I read that it is.
(Jurian) Volare: all lines are
straight :p
(Emmanuel) Charlie: how can u speak for all of us?
(Vim) Nancy
- can the Zetas go over what will happen to the moon during the passage in what
time remains? If not, next week?
(Shaman464) Difference is about 5 billion
human lives
(NancyL) YOU are to rise to the occasion and GROW UP, take
action, DO something to help your fellow man!
(RudyJoe) What is the
difference? They are preventing us from helping ourselves.
(Wage) Nancy you
missed the first part of the question, re Wolfowitz, etc
(AGreenspan) When
the Phoenix Lights were discussed, it was stated that the media was MORE
controled than we suspect. In this session, you seem to claim the opposite, what
gives?
(NancyL) Now, Shaman, tell us what YOU are doing, today, to help your
fellow man!
(Obany) Phoenix: what's the point in asking that? How many
STO/STS are in this channel?
(Jurian) Obany: simple curiosity?
(Howmo)
Nancy, why wont' the "zetas" answer your science questions that you are posting
to sci.astro?
(Merlin) Nancy: If we do stand up and take action, will the
government take us out then?
(NancyL) Spanky, sure, re Roswell, there are
also reports that it was a weather balloon :-)
(Dsf231)
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2002/Crabwood/crabwood2002a.html QUESTION: Is
the recent "alien head" crop circle a hoax, and is the recent crop circle that
appeared in Idaho a genuine communication?
(Shaman464) I give my money about
10% of what I make to charity
(CyberVVizz) Piet, there are things in books,
there are things spoken, there are thing in reality
(NancyL) Howmo, sci.astro
Q's are human interpretation of science, endlessly repeated.
(Samsara2003)
Dsf: This looks to be a big hoax / same as Chilbolton
(AgentY) What should I
eat for dinner tonight.
(Shaman464) I have given blood
(Obany) Dsf231:
FAKE
(NancyL) When humans are wrong, it gets ignored, but the theories keep
getting repeated as "right".
(Vim) Dsf231 Nancy already said it's
fake
(Dsf231) It looks much better
(Torbj) Nancy, I want to give you a
hug.... close your eyes!
(Piet) What do you say is the highest,
Cyber?
(Monk) Charlie=STS my vote heh
(NancyL) OK folks, the hour is up,
thanks for coming and inspiring great ZetaTalk!
(SteveH) Dsf231, the alien
head circle is definitely a hoax...
(Howmo) No, why won't the "zetas" answer
YOUR questions?
(IdolHarobed) Photoshop made.
(Focus27) Does anyone know
how to view the current phases of the moon, and how fast are they
accelerating?
(RudyJoe) Nancy, thanks for an extraordinarily lively
session.
(NancyL) Thank you also, Obany and Grimbot, for being such good
cops!
(Obany) Grimbot wasn't here who is only a bot ...
(Charlie) Sure,
STS is fine with me. I speak only for myself, as all the rest of us do. As far
as I know, no one here is representing a group.
(Jurian) Grimbot's out
partying :p
(NancyL) By the by, re slowing, I heard from someone who lost 3
minutes on all their clocks, but the PC atomic clock was NOT losing this
:-)
(NancyL) Humm.
(NancyL) Bye all!
Session Close: Sat Aug 17 18:13:01
2002