Session Start: Sat Dec 14 15:44:20 2002
(MrOdd) I'm in new york
city
(Bailey) the Lott fantago is just a destraction from the Bush rape
charges IMHO
(GeneAum) who comes after Lott could be even worse
(NancyL)
ANNOUNCEMENT: Steve and Naji have secured another set of images on Dec 13th. PX
is bigger, brighter, moons larger, dust cloud/tail more evident, and both white
and red personas obvious. White is SPOT ON between Dec 6 and 18 coordiante
points. Red is closer to white now, as is more directly overhead.
(GeneAum)
FYI: Great left of center radio at: ieamericaradio.com
(SteveH) the Dec 14
images show it very well, extremely obvious
(NancyL) For those looking to get
the FITS files, there is a link from the TEAM page
http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm to a Yahoo site, but Steve will begin
deleted these as he needs to space there for more stuff.
(Kwandrie) i cant
wait to see those images
(Jeremy) We have finally reached the undeniable
sighting period!
(NancyL) I will put the FITS files on the Alph ZT site
(zetatalk.com) soon, hopefully tomorrow, for downloading by the anxious mob
qualified to read FITS fiels.
(Obany) SteveH: only yahoo is well slow maybe
because of the downloads
(Cybervvizz) Nancy did You got the stock market
screenshots ?
(SteveH) I will post my link on sci.astro Nancy
(SteveH) It
might get pretty slow though
(Silk-away) its already crawling
(Jeremy) I'm
looking forward to see those snarling, smug sci.astro eat humble pie
eventually
(Zetapal) as we talked, His war buddy "Jimmy" came over and sat
down. Jimmy had no teeth anymore and one eye, a bad one. The old man continued,
"Once I got up to go take a leak out the bombay of a B-24, it froze and bounced
off the bombay doors." Finishing our convo, he looked up "Sometimes I think back
to all that happened being a pilot in WW2, I don't know how the hell we ever got
through it all."
(MrOdd) will we be able to ask questions during this
session?
(Jeremy) Mr Odd: You just asked one :)
(Jeremy)
hehe
(Kwandrie) that sounds interesting Zetapal, not too many of those vets
left
(Nibiru) #Troubled_Times can't join channel (channel is full)
(Silk)
Steve, why are these files 4 megs, no binning?
(MikeO) I tend to vote
Democratic, but I think Lott is being hung out to dry unfairly by both Democrats
and Republicans with ulterior motives. Shameful performance from both parties
regarding an innocent comment from Lott.
(Vaulb) I'm cool with px as long as
it doesn't affect Finland very much :)
(SteveH) becuase I've grouped them
into folders and zipped on my site
(Kwandrie) i agree MikeO
(NancyL)
Cyber, I went there but a day late and didn't see what you were referring to.
Can you report to the group here what you SAW? Very interesting! And I think a
valid ZQ today!
(Jeremy) MikeO: I agree, why should people be persecuted for
politically incorrect opinions
(Silk) so two files per zip?
(SteveH) the
fits files are 2MB each
(Silk) ok
(Kwandrie) he had one episode of foot in
mouth disease and they want him to quit over it
(Cybervvizz) Did You see the
gifs I took ?
(Kwandrie) most of them have done far worse
(JubJub963)
comments were not innocent, similar comments were made in 1980 and other
occasions, he fought strongly also to maintain segregation in his
fraternity
(NancyL) Mr Odd, yes, I'm collecting an agenda, have only the
Taken (TV Series) Q and Cyber's Stock Market Q.
(JubJub963) that dude is a
racist
(GeneAum) Nancy: Recentlyon George Noory's show you mentioned that
PlanetX is inhabited by people. With an orbit such as P-X has how would a
lifeform exist with such an orbit - at one point being close to a Sun, but at
other points being extremely far from a Sun?
(JWilliam) Steve: getting a 20
min then 15 4 min and another 20 min after is excellent. PX is very strong on
both 20's. Reference points for work on the 15. good strategy ;o)
(NancyL)
Cyber, no, can you tell the group here what YOU captured?
(Cybervvizz)
http://www.cybervvizz.info/falsestock1.jpg
(Cybervvizz)
http://www.cybervvizz.info/falsestock2.jpg
(Redeye) interesting point
gene
(Cybervvizz) from CNN money
(Cybervvizz) on the top bar the stock
market was almost 30% more as the graphcs below
(GeneAum) they must not be
carbon-based :*)
(NancyL) Gene, Px (12th) is inhabited and generates its own
heat/light. There is a lot of info in the Worlds section re this, go
read.
(GeneAum) ok, thnx
(Redeye) blimey I guess I missed that
(Torbj)
öhh...hello?
(Kwandrie) nancy, did you hear the Stan Ddeyo
interview
(Kwandrie) on Coast to Coast
(GeneAum) me too. but even w/ their
own heat/light, could you imagine a scenario like this on, say, Pluto?
(Obany) no other questions ???
(MrOdd) what do the zetas say is the
source of the so-called "dark energy" which is currently thought to pervade the
universe, and is the force driving the accelerating rate of expansion that the
universe is undergoing as shown by recent studies of distant
supernovae?
(Fetus) What do the zetas have to say about Jim Mccanney's comet
model?
(MrOdd) and what of the nuclear terrestrial inner core theory that is
gaining momentum at a tremendous pace that would likely make a magentic pole
shift almost entirely without effect? (as reported in the popular and respected
science magazine Discover [ http://www.discover.com/aug_02/featplanet.html ] ,
as well as in proper scientific papers)
(NancyL) Kwan, no, what did Deyo
disinfo this time?
(Kwandrie) nancy, Stan Deyo was spilling his guts ie black
ops and UFOs or so we were supposed to think
(NancyL) Deyo does not think
that the Zetas should be listened to, as they are not Bible thumpers!
Fact!
(CMelton) Q: can we learn anything, in regards to survival, by looking
at the surviving vildlifes behavior ?
(Obany) MrOdd: if you are trying to be
anoying .. then you won't get a chance you know that
(MrOdd) I'm not trying
to be annoying
(Kwandrie) he said Roswell happened and that the aliens want
to take over and are not good
(MrOdd) these are legit questions
(MrOdd) I
would kill to know the answer to the dark energy one
(Redeye) Mr Odd, sounds
like complete BS
(NancyL) Mr Odd, you are supposing that human assumptions
are correct! Humans are SO off as to practially be in the Flat Earth Society
still.
(Kwandrie) and was talking about the hybrid program
(Vaulb) omg
what freaks :D
(Vaulb) kill...
(NancyL) NO comment on the latest human
theory, sorry.
(ZetaCurious) never underestimate humans
(Kwandrie) whole
bunch of stuff
(Kwandrie) just wondered as someone asked about Planet X and
he acted like he knew very little
(Bailey) Nancy, thank you for making sense
of all this smallpox stuff thank you. Is there any chance some genetic DNA
manipulation has been taking place through vaccines with any ET
partisipation?
(Zetapal) never overestimate them
(NancyL) Fetus, McCanny
is a dolt. He's got everyone looking in the WRONG direction, never mind that Px
is arriving just where the Zetas said it would!
(NancyL) Don't bother McCanny
with facts, he's too stuck on himself.
(Torbj) Can the Zeta tell me what´s in
this solarphoto taken yesterday (about 8´oclock near the edge of the sun)?
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/summary/gif/021213/seit_00171_fd_20021213_1900.gif
(Nightbird)
Deyo may be way off and too fundamentalist for my taste... but does have good
survival info..
(Obany) Kwandrie: a researcher called Jacobs.. he wrote a
book about the hybrids also ... the treath or so .. There are people who see
hybrids coming to this earth as a takeover
(Cybervvizz) -noflood I think
they altered the information, but they have forgotten to alter
(Cybervvizz)
the graphics. The chart is automaticaly and daily drawn by a piece of
software
(Cybervvizz) (servlet) on CNN, the result is a picture which can be
stored on the
(Cybervvizz) cache of the webserver or a dedicated proxyserver.
It could be they
(Cybervvizz) alter the data at a given time, but the proxy
or cache does not
(Cybervvizz) refresh so fast because this refresh is
'scheduled' by his scheme. Or
(Cybervvizz) it could be the servlet has made
some mistakes, but this would be much
(NancyL) Mr Odd, that theory is also
garbage, not worth commenting upon. Want the truth? Read ZetaTalk, and if any
human theory differs, it is wrong.
(Cybervvizz) coincidence, and why would it
be at least 25-30% off the value ?
(NancyL) So Deyo KNOWS that Roswell
happened. Gee, maybe he'd like to share his data :-). He's spouting opinions,
solely.
(Fetus) does ZT talk about comet tails?
(Kwandrie) oh ok, well he
claimed to have been part of black ops back then
(MrOdd) so assuming human
suppositions to be false, that would make planetx's observance as pertaining to
these red and white personas, the first ever record of such human "laws" being
violated. Quite a coincidence, no? I mean, among billions of celestial
observations, this is the one and only time such an effect has been
reported
(Obany) he maybe heard or read about the hybrids... and saying it's
like a takeover fits well with his religious ideas
(Cmell) Q 4 ZT: can we
learn anything, in regards to survival, by looking at the surviving vildlifes
behavior?
(NancyL) The disinfo mode lately is for everyone to DENY that a PS
will happen in 2003, nevermind the ZT accuracy on everything, and here's the
inbound bugger JUST where the Zetas said it would be, right size, increasing
size, etc.
(Kwandrie) he said that a war was going on in another dimension
where the aliens come from and we were being used as part of the war
games
(Nightbird) Obany, since everyone will be a hybrid (that make it to the
4th density) isn't that a form of takeover? Afterall this model of bodies will
be retired eventualy.
(Cmell) wildlifes
(JWilliam) Mr Odd: Ever heard of a
mirage?
(NancyL) My my, but we're supposed to listen to them, spout their
theories.
(MrOdd) indeed I have heard of a mirage
(SteveH) question for
ZT: The Zeta's have said pollution in the oceans will be widely dispursed after
the pole shift and hence will not be a major problem. Can the Zeta's comment on
how polluted ocean areas near major cities will in the months after the pole
shift and how this wil affect the marine life in those immediate
area?
(Obany) Nightbird: i don't see it as a takeover
(MrOdd) but in
space there is no heat, and nothing to make a reflection off of
(MrOdd) so I
can't see how that's at all pertinant
(Torbj) did you see my Q?
(MrOdd)
pertinent*
(Obany) something that has been agreed upon is not a
takeover
(JWilliam) Mr Odd : Dust cloud perhaps ?
(NancyL) Torbj, I'm not
going to look at a NASA photo of the Sun. They are trying to claim it is causing
current earth problems, and this is a lie, so could be any kind of
doctoring.
(AL1) will La Palma volcano in the Canary Islands, which is
already damaged, experience an earthquake and fall into the sea prior to the
poleshift and therby cause a huge tsumnami
(MrOdd) dust cloud? I sincerely
hope you're joking
(Bailey) most bible thumpers think all ET life are spirit
demons, prob still think world is flat too :o)
(NancyL) Mr Odd, humans are
intellectual infants, and very arrogant, yes.
(JWilliam) Mr Odd: read Zeta
talk on composition of PX and its travelling cloud
(Jeremy) Nancy: I knew we
would reach this stage evenutally with PX imaging, but I suspected it would take
several months after September. Seems I was right there
(Phoenix) Question:
Did the young students in USA (Michigan?) who purport to have built a
zero-gravity ship of sorts? (I saw an interesting video of it on web, don't have
site.)
(NancyL) Red and White personas on a red object CLOSE to the solar
system has NOT been recorded over history, please.
(MrOdd) despite all that,
though, this would be the only time such a thing has ever been observed. What
makes PX so special as to demonstrate this effect where no other celestial
object ever has?
(Matt) what are these red and white
personaes?
(Nightbird) I see your point, Obany.. I just mean their style of
bodies is what we will all have then... so I can see their side too
(Nmi) do
you know about the Hathors?
(Torbj) Yes...but this "anomaly " they been
hiding erlier....but it will not go away....so here it is everyday on the dayly
soho images....
(SteveH) MrOdd, the red dust cloud
(MrOdd) red dust
cloud?
(NancyL) SteveH Q on pollution accepted.
(NancyL) Ali Q on Canary
accepted.
(SteveH) so primarily only some light in the red spectrum passes
through
(DonMB) Nancy: how are you holding up and are you scheduled for any
more radio interviews?
(MrOdd) but then that would merely be a
filter
(MrOdd) it would hardly create a second instance
(Phoenix) Matt,
see Zetatalk, Planet X sightings heading, pls.
(JWilliam) Mr odd: or a
projector
(NancyL) Phoenix, purported to have built? Right. They
didn't.
(Matt) :/
(MrOdd) the only thing that could create a second
instance of an observed object is gravitic lensing
(Cmell) did you see my
Q
(Phoenix) OK, I didn't think so, but it was an interesting
video.
(JubJub963) Nancy, are quasars mistakenly presumed to be really far
away because of their high red shift value
(NancyL) Mr Odd, distance, is it
NOT a distant star or nova so does not lose its bending red light (they are many
spectrums) along the way.
(Nibiru) can you tell me URL's with Nibiru pics
(NancyL) Matt, please DO go read in the TEAM section, and in particularly
the Science pages, links, re this.
(NancyL) Pages in Science section called
Red Light in the PX linking paragraphs, not too hard to find ...
(AGreenspan)
How do you explain the Elightened idividual in the context of your statement
that humans are limited by their genetic makeup? Thanks.
(SteveH)
http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
(MrOdd) indeed. The red light does
in fact bend. However, "white" light won't bend as one apparition, because it in
fact is NOT one - it is many, the combined spectrum of several distinct colors
of light, each with it's own refractability
(AGreenspan) Read:
Enlightened.
(NancyL) DonMB, I have been invited for many interviews, but am
getting more picky. Not back on Coast yet, no, but an interview with the After
Dark was supposed to be in their Dec issue.
(DonMB) Thank you, Nancy. And
Your health
(DonMB) ?
(NancyL) However, there are secondary exposure. I
heard from Ichi, Japanese translator, who included photos of this Mag article in
MU, that I was featured.
(Silk) Red shift is an especially good one Mr
Odd
(MrOdd) that still doesn't explain how many different colors, RED
INCLUDED, could appear as one object
(NancyL) Well, PX in all its
ramifications, Sitchin, the PX Video (my pic and zetatalk mention), et all in
the article.
(NancyL) And this is happening elsewhere too, not directly ME,
but indirectly, what I've stated, etc.
(Obany) !kick silk don't give it a try
(MrOdd) "many different colors" referring to white
(Obany) !kick Mr_Odd
don't give it a try
(Jeremy) Steve: Did you notice my earlier comment that
PX was featured as a cover page story on The New Scientist magazine?
(Kcin)
after the PS, will the survivors learn anything from observing animal
behavior?
(NancyL) OK, hour is here, and will start with Q1.
(MrOdd)
...
(NancyL) TAKEN
(NancyL) 1. What do you think of the Taken
miniseries?
(NancyL) ZT: Spielberg produced, in the past, the ET movie, Close
Encounters, and was know to be ET friendly in this regard.
(NancyL) ZT: A
Star Child, well versed in his past life experiences and educated in his present
incarnation with the variety of life forms and the rules the Univers operate
under, he was here on a mission.
(NancyL) ZT: It was announced that ET would
be RE-released in theatres this past summer, but this did not occur, merely a CD
version for sale.
(NancyL) ZT: Instead, in the manner of recent film
releases, Taken was produced, obvious from the commercials to be akin to the
message given by ID4, Signs, and Independence Day.
(NancyL) (Oops, I think
ID4 and Independence Day are the same)
(NancyL) ZT: The aliens are here to
eat you, takeover the planet, but mankind going into hand-to-hand combat with
aliens can win the day!
(NancyL) ZT: This tone in the recent movies is
reflective of WHAT is being allowed to be presented to the public, via
Hollywood, which does indeed get censored by the powers in the White
House.
(NancyL) ZT: So how would Spielberg, given his message, but only
allowed to produce a movie in line with the anti-alien strongarm tactics in
place since the Bush administration assumed a virtual Martial Law of the media,
tell the truth?
(NancyL) ZT: Nancy had been asked about this, before it was
aired, and simply stated via email to wait to see what Speilberg would DO with
the series.
(NancyL) ZT: In other words, the commercials would NOT forcast
the ultimate message, and they did NOT.
(NancyL) ZT: There is a mixture of
truth and fiction, as usual in the movies.
(NancyL) ZT: Truth is primarily
about the GOVERNMENT role, their agenda, from start to end.
(NancyL) ZT:
Shown as ambitious for the technology, coveting this for themselves in elite
groups, and keeping the truth from the public.
(NancyL) ZT True in that the
CIA, highly influenctial to the point of dominating MJ12 in the early days,
would experiemnt on humans suspected of being contactees or use military
personnel like lab rats.
(NancyL) ZT: Truth in assassinations freely done, by
those in the Secret Government, outside of the official rules the Governing
Board operated under, but allowable under the need-to-know secrecy that kept
MOST operations from being discovered.
(NancyL) ZT: Speilberg was allowed to
display the government, the CIA, with this degree of truth as he presented the
contactee experience as TAKEN, an abduction.
(NancyL) ZT: But look to the
actual effect or real contactees! Even in the contactee support group, the
rampaging gunman was NOT a contactee, but someone abused and angry and looking
for attention in his denial of his actual abuse.
(NancyL) ZT: Contactees,
while screaming and enraged at being TAKEN, later were presented, to a one, as
having integrity, being loving and protective of others, and basically in the
STO orientation.
(NancyL) ZT: And what about the agenda of the aliens,
clearly presented as Zetas.
(NancyL) ZT: They are shown coopearting with
honest requests, as the MJ12 agent wanting to see his dead father again, even at
the sacrifice of the Zeta life in this cooperation.
(NancyL) ZT: They are
shown as wanting hybrids, which is a TRUTH, although the real reasons for the
hybrid program were disguised into scientific curiosity rather than in step with
the Transformation of the Earth.
(NancyL) ZT: It was implied that humans died
under their hand, during early DNA or hybrid attempts.
(NancyL) ZT: This is a
falsehood insofar as human devastation, but NOT insofar as Hybrid devastation,
as our early attempts were often failures, and those incarnating sould living
out their lives, by choice, in diminished bodies as a result.
(NancyL) ZT:
The Zetas are shown as being protective of their hybrids, a truth.
(NancyL)
ZT: Thus, in the end, the general tone comes across as PRO Zeta as scientists,
PRO hybrid as strongly STO, PRO contactee as high integrity and self sacrificing
and protective of othes, and ANTI CIA and MJ12 in their human agendas and
ruthless actions!
(NancyL) ZT: NOt bad, Spielberg, while operating under gun
fire and with an almost impossible agenda to achieve!
(NancyL) End ZT
followup?
(MikeO) Besides ZetaTalk, and to a lesser degree the BBC and Jeff
Rense or maybe Pravda, where can humans go to get REAL news and analysis,
uncompromised by the Bush Regime?
(Redeye) given no restraints, what would
speilberg have released ? were ideas for Taken alot different before being
wrongly influenced ?
(Carlo) zetas confused id4 and independace day? or Nancy
did?
(DonMB) +m
(IdolHarobed) Nancy, ET was indeed re-relased here in
Brazil, to celebrate 20 years after the first release.
(NancyL) Nancy did :-)
They corrected me promptly.
(Mikeaus) can the Zetas comment on the smallpox
vaccinations?
(Obany) Mikeaus: they already did in #poleshifdiscussion
?
(NancyL) Mike, this was addressed in the earlier session, and will be in
the logs shortly, etc. on the web.
(Mikeaus) yes,but Bush saying he's had one
etc
(Mikeaus) ok,thanks
(AGreenspan) Speaking of hybrids, can you please
have one of them respond to questions, next sessions?
(NancyL) RedEye, I
think he wanted ET prominent in the theatres again, but was refused!
(Bailey)
after viewing taken, people I know don't think I as nuts as they did before
lol
(Redeye) Nancy, right
(TerrorDactyl) is it always the same zeta that
speaks to Nancy?
(Phoenix) Are some people inmainstream media trying to crack
through the control program?
(Redeye) a shame
(SteveH) I just about
finished reading the book Taken, don't get the sci.fi channel
(Domicile) Is
the establishment holding back the release of The Core? It was supposed to come
out in November. http://www.thecoremovie.com
(Obany) The Hybrid project is
finished by now righ, Ithink ? AGreenspan it has been mentioned in a previous
session that the hybrids are on earth right now in 4th density .. for what I
remember?
(JubJub963) if sto is already the choice of Earth, why does
spielberg do what he does, to ease the process?
(NancyL) MikeO, I'd suggest
looking for slip-ups, as the controlled media will get loose around the edges as
things start to unravel in these next few months.
(NancyL) Look for the
contractions, the slips, etc. MORE revealing than anything!
(TerrorDactyl)
Nancy, do you speak to the same zeta each time or lots of
individuals?
(orion) why was the core movie postponed until march? the real
reason. not to work on special effects
(NancyL) AGreen, this is ZetaTalk, not
HybridTalk, but I think they are part of the teams answering in
anycase.
(Mikeaus) were the recent satellites being sent up to examine PX ie.
the Aussie satellite?
(Redeye) terror, the zetas operate as a collective
unit, i dont think it matters
(AGreenspan) He could've called it 'Abducted' -
he did not.
(Mikeaus) i noticed many failed
(Mikeaus) ie. the Euro
sats
(NancyL) Phoenix, the Z's have said of the recent slips (UK UFO eipsode
released, etc) that folks are just WAITING for a chance, also NASA posting of
Mars images, which Hoagland got his hands on promptly, etc.
(NonShlnt) Bush
admin. influences media, but has previous admin. also done so?
(Torbj) if
there is room for a new q: can the zeta tell me if my hunch of "DNA as the
mirror of your self" is right?
(NancyL) ZT to Domicile re Core:
(Plow)
why
(NancyL) ZT: The Core, as we have stated, is another movie to point the
public indirectly to the earth changes that will soon consume them.
(NancyL)
ZT: Like prior moves of this ilk, Postman, Volcano, Deep Impact, this is a
lightly veiled version of pole shift phenomena.
(NancyL) ZT: What is causing
a delay is the REAL increase in quakes, and the undeniable imaging of the
inbound Planet X JUST where we said it would be sightings.
(NancyL) ZT: A
little close for comfort now, and second thoughts about the wisedome of
featuring Core in the theatres.
(NancyL) End ZT to Domicilie.
(Cjack4)
Anybody here familiar with Kryon
(DonMB) #+m
(Nightbird) Nancy, I have
noticed that the Discovery Channel is always having earth devastation shows on
their channel on saturdays.. is this to prepare our minds about the coming
events? Zeta's care to comment?
(NancyL) JubJub, since STO is the choice of
Earth, why feed the starving, is that your logic?
(NancyL) MikeAus, many
probes et al recently for Px viewing. Yes.
(Mikeaus) ok, thanx
(Scuba) ive
had this feeling since the 70's,heard u on art bell,then all fit to gether..also
sleep paralyisi has been happening to me since the 70's is this a
connection?
(Mikeaus) thought so
(JubJub963) i mean , Spielberg trying to
convince people of benevolence of ets, do we need convincing?
(JubJub963) but
good point from ZT tho
(NancyL) Nonshlnt, previous White House probably not,
but MJ12 et al, yes. Earlier, before Bush, it was expected more honesty, more ET
type movies, but this changed of course after the coup.
(NibiruAFK) me too i
have sleep paralysi
(TerrorDactyl) whats behind the tiny alien probe the CIA
found this week - the size of an insect?
(k000t) i think most ppl would want
to kill an apparent invader,
(TerrorDactyl)
http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/aliens_story.cfm?instanceid=48025
(Mikeaus)
all those satellites collecting "cosmic dust"...must be interesting dust!
;)
(howie) abductions and angel like music,has anyone else had
this
(NancyL) ZT to Nightbird: Discovery channel has WANTED to produce
informative programs to prepare the public, but been denied.
(3j) hehe weekly
world news is tabloids
(Me) Cjack4: Yes. Does he mention PX?
(NancyL) ZT:
They have been leaned on to emphasize the Sun as the cause, but
resisted.
(Obany) jubjub963: yes, as after the shift mankind (those who are
service to others) will deal with them
(NancyL) ZT: They early approached
Nancy on PX and Troubled Times type content, but this was squelched.
(NancyL)
ZT: They are doing their best with a difficult situation, like
Spielberg.
(NancyL) ZT: Depending on human hands, and which way this or that
jumps, MANY dramas could ensue over the next few weeks and months.
(NancyL)
OK, onto Q2 ...
(NancyL) POLLUTION
(NancyL) 1. The Zeta's have said
pollution in the oceans will be widely dispursed after the pole shift and hence
will not be a major problem. Can the Zeta's comment on how polluted ocean areas
near major cities will in the months after the pole shift and how this wil
affect the marine life in those immediate area?
(NancyL) ZT: Industrial sites
will not be pleasant during or after the shift.
(NancyL) ZT: Tanks of
chemicals, often dangerous or explosive if mixed, will rupture and mix, spewing
death in the surrounding areas.
(NancyL) ZT: Pooling in the area, even under
the continuous drizzle expected, the hurricane force winds disbursing such
chemical mix, they will be around for years, a stinking death pool.
(NancyL)
ZT: Such areas MAY be cleaned up in the Aftertime, depending upon the rules that
the Council of Worlds imposes.
(NancyL) ZT: This is dependent upon the
orientation of the survivors in the area, as if solidly under the control of STO
leadership, such cleanup would be allowed.
(NancyL) ZT: If NOT strongly under
such leadership, or in the hands of STS, then it would be considered a
continuing lesson for those souls incarnated in the human survivors, and allowed
to continue.
(NancyL) ZT: This is, of course, no different than existing
situations today, where a quake or industrial accident causes such a
mess.
(NancyL) ZT: Industrial accidents, in developing countries where rules
are relaxed and inhumane situation allowed to be imposed on the workers, are
known to day.
(NancyL) ZT: The Texas/Mexican border has a high rate of birth
defects due to the pollution rules being relaxed by the current President by
Coup, who had the WORSE environmental record of any state in the
Union.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, is it not that the Council if IMPOSING pollution,
but rather allowing the current human status quo to continue!
(NancyL) ZT: We
would most certianly advise would-be survivors to NOT be in the poximity of
industrial areas, where such tanks are in evidence.
(NancyL) ZT: It is no
secret what chemicals are stored there, nor any secret what would occur if
mixed!.
(NancyL) ZT: OBVIOULY, the choice it so be elsewhere, especially
since the jobs in these industries will be diminishing steadily going into the
time of the shift.
(NancyL) ZT: MOVE!
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter,
followup?
(Nibiru) NancyL i wanna leave the planet.. u can help me.. i'm
absoliutly serious.. i will send you letter with more information soon. Remember
me? The one who create site about Nibiru in Bulgarian.. still the only
one..
(Mikeaus) give George and Jeb a mop and get THEM to clean it up
:)
(Longint) Followup: Up to what degree are the actions of 4th density
entities interwined with actions of higher density entities?
(Cmell) was the
previous invironmental disaster of the coast of Spain and Portugal a genuine
disaster, or were there other "forces" at play ?
(NancyL) Nibiru, grow
up.
(NibiruAFK) lol
(NorCal) hah
(Nightbird) Do the Zetas see a problam
with propane tanks and the like rupturing during the quakes?
(DonMB) You say
the Salt Flats are relatively safe... What about the chemicals stored to the
south?
(Nibiru) NancyL today fantasy is tomorow reality.. grow up is for
kids..
(NorCal) salt flats?....... in the winter time they turn into huge
salt water puddles
(NancyL) Long, this is too abstract! Counting angels on
the head of a pin type stuff. Declined!
(PlanetX) i add sleep paralysi before
learning about all this is it related?
(ZzMike) is there any way of getting
over the fear of seeing a zeta without repeated pleasant
exposure?
(AGreenspan) Nibiru, i bet you they want to leave this session, but
they're here answering these (...), q. - you ain't going anywhere,
pal.
(NancyL) CMell, aliens to not CAUSE these disasters, man
does.
(Cmell) k, just what I wanted to know
(Dwander) why would you fear a
zeta, ZZ?
(Cmell) I have fear Dwander
(ZzMike) past experience
(NancyL)
Nightbird, I'd not have ANYTHING explosive around me, period. This shift is
going to be an across-the-board disaster.
(Bailey) Nibiru, I feel like that
too some times
(AGreenspan) Right..so what cities was this guy asking
about?
(Nightbird) Ok Nancy.. Thank you and thank the Zetas for the Dicovery
Channel answer for me, please.
(NancyL) High winds, quakes as big as anything
immaginable, and a propane tank has a spout, a valve, no?
(Carlo) when will
you be back on the Art Bell show?
(NancyL) AGreen, ANY industrial area,
ANYwhere.
(Nightbird) Yes, Mam they do
(Torbj) DNA is not "to
abstaract"....can the zeta´s comment on my hunch that DNA is the mirror of
you...? (and not the opposite)
(NancyL) Onto Q 4 ....
(NancyL) CANARY
ISL
(NancyL) 1. Will La Palma volcano in the Canary Islands, which is already
damaged, experience an earthquake and fall into the sea prior to the poleshift
and therby cause a huge tsumnami
(NancyL) ZT: It has long been postulated
that the Canary Islands are fragile, and will collapse into the sea upon another
quakes, creating a Usumnami.
(NancyL) Tsumanmi
(NancyL) ZT: This is a
HUMAN theory, and absurd.
(NancyL) ZT: First, monstrously high waves are NOT
caused by displacement of water across the ocean, as water moves in ALL
directions, and the pressure reduces steadily during the distance
traveled.
(NancyL) ZT: Do these human theorists presume that TUNNEL VISION
exists in the ocean, such that pressure only moves in one direction?
(NancyL)
ZT: This is akin to the human propensity to divide what they are dealing with
into tiny bits, and ONLY consider a bit at a time, as though putting the bits
together is too much of a headache.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, Newton's supposed Laws
are considered separately from Einsteins math, as they don't work
together.
(NancyL) ZT: A land slide, under water, will create NOT a force of
water moving across the ocean, but a void causing water to FILL that
void.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, a swirl of water, moving into the void and then out
again, would occur, locally.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter,
followup?
(DonMB) I have a question about Holodynamics. Since I have
experienced the shift of STS to a more STO using the techniques taught, is this
a valuable method of saving those that are STS?
(NancyL) JWilliam, has anyone
made an announcement on sci.astro about the Dec 13th images, or too
soon?
(Jeremy) DonMb: Sorry, not relevant to follow up...
(JWilliam) I
haven't checked will do and Email you.
(JubJub963) Steve did
(Obany)
Steveh did
(NancyL) I would like to know what IMO will say about the
admitted NEW object (the Red on Dec 4th) now being absent, but APPREARING close
to the new Coordinate point.
(TonyO) they know.
(DonMB) No one seemed to
have a follow up
(Redeye) haha
(NancyL) And Tholen will say yet more
"variable stars", winking on and off at the Zeta locations, over time
:-).\
(Obany) DonMB: you can't change someone who is STS into a STO person
...
(Beta) no one can download it... way too slow
(Franci66) will Council
of world lift the gloom over strong STO areas?
(NancyL) Soon, I suspect,
they will call this an asteroid batch, or a comet, or some such.
(AL1) so the
Swiss scientists who modeled this on computers and in tanks are all wrong . They
said 500 million tons of earth falling into the sea will create a 350 foot high
wall of water on the other side of the atlantic in 7 hours ?
(Phoenix) Could
the Zetas tell us more about the new underwater volcano off the coast of
Oregon?
(DonMB) You'd be surprised...
(NancyL) Come up with an orbit path
that aligns where they THINK it will be over the next few weeks.
(NancyL) But
the world will know they are pointing to the SAME spot that the Zetas have been,
since jump, 1005.
(NancyL) 1995.
(LadyInRed) good question
phoenix
(Obany) DonMB: well if they are undecided, but an STS type of person
nah i realy don't think so
(JWilliam) Nancy: I'm still trying to absorb
these pics. That Tail is looong ;o) and PX so bright
(Dave7) Gidday
everyone/Zeta's,me/us/one.When will we recognise the truth of the oneness of all
things?
(Phoenix) As in current activity, relationship to recent quakes off
coast of Oregon?
(DonMB) Has been done
(NancyL) Frani66, this would be
kind of a guiding light to the STO areas, don't you think "-) Like go HERE
signal to the STS gangs, think not.
(Jeremy) Phoenix: I noticed a lot of
quakes off the coast of Oregon recently on the USGS site
(Torbj) when you see
a person in "panic"...you can see if the person is STO or STS
(JWilliam) Time
to see if the Shepherd is still in Denial ;o) and rattle his anonymous cage ;o)
(Me) :Previous Z question referred to half a volcano fallling INTO the
ocean--not an underwater landslide. Also, such landslides do cause tsunamis, and
tsunamis do cross oceans.
(NancyL) Ali, yes, wrong. Using wrong human math,
theories, etc.
(PmlOnline) the site's been too slow for me:
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/stevehavas/lst?.dir=/shavas&.view=l
(NancyL)
Phoenix, just more volcanic eruptions, more quakes, etc. Get used to it,
etc.
(PmlOnline) haven't seen the pics yet
(NancyL) JWilliam, yes, I'm
looking for new SIZE math from SOMEONE as the Sep 15th size thingie is no longer
relevant! It is bigger now.
(Torbj) a "paniced" person is a "true"
person
(NancyL) And I'd like to come up with some math on the length,spread
of the TAIL, and distance of the moons, etc.
(NancyL) We know apx distance of
PX, so the RA and Dec length of the tail can be computed, I think.
(MrOdd)
how does a planet have a tail? I thought that was comets?
(Cmell) you'r right
Torbj, that when the real nature of a person shows
(JWilliam) I'll be working
on it, something by tonite more by late Sunday nite
(TonyO) IMO is kinda
quiet these days. :) these new images should really stir up
sci-astro!
(NancyL) Being a math challenged person, I'd like some help in
this area from the readership.
(Xenu) You've imaged moons 15 billion miles
out?
(N18) Tsunami info:
http://www.tacda.org/resources/natural/tidalwave.html
(SteveH) I'm
back...
(N18) Tsunami info:
http://www.tacda.org/resources/natural/tidalwave.html
(JubJub963) mr_odd
trail of moons
(MrOdd) ooh
(Obany) welcome back Steve
(NancyL) Phoenix,
the West Coast is due for quake slipslide activity, no question.
(Dwander)
has ZT confirmed a current aprox distance?
(TonyO) you da man,
Steve!
(Phoenix) Ok, thx Nancy. We just don't hear much in the news, but
something is going on there for sure. Just more deafening silence from the
media, I guess.
(Serbeo) after the shift how much will the average world wide
temperture drop due to cloud cover?
(Jeremy) Some of PXs moons are as big as
our moon, which also implies they are larger than Pluto
(Okidok) the thruth
is real when you bye your own eyes can see the 12th planet,,,before that event
it is only a theory
(NancyL) ME, give evidence of this, not just human
statements, theory, re tsumami
(Torbj) well....giong to load my computors
with a 20 min videofotage of the moon, 3 ours ago, and meditate uponit!...i LOVE
Yuo ALL!
(Xenu) yes, but 15 billion miles Jeremy?
(NancyL) Xenu,
reflecting light from Px, yes, in the dust cloud that the tail is comprised of,
yes.
(JWilliam) Hey TonyO : glad to see you, I know your not me but the
confused sheep on Sci.astro remain confused.
(Me) Info is from recent
Discovery Channel program.
(Xenu) OK, a 13" telescope can image moons the
size of pluto at 15 billion miles?
(Jeremy) Xenu: Possibly, also depends on
the albedo (reflectivity) of the moons
(NancyL) Serbeo, NO temp drop and this
is in existing ZT, please read.
(TonyO) they are such a "warm" group, eh
jwilliam? lol!
(Serbeo) ok
(SteveH) Hi TonyO! Nice pressuring on
sci.astro!
(NancyL) SteveH, what did you announce on sci.astro, I'm curious
and unlikely to get there soon!
(Xenu) How is that possible?
(SteveH) hold
on...
(JWilliam) Warm and Fuzzy ;o)
(SteveH) The images (fits files and
BMP's) can be download here:
(SteveH)
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/stevehavas/lst?.dir=/shavas&.view=l
(SteveH)
Dec 13, 15 x 240sec exposures, 4 x 1200sec exposures Red filter
(SteveH)
Dec14, 15 x 240sec exposures Red filter
(SteveH) The new objects are obvious,
especially on the Dec13-1200-1 image and all the 15 Dec 14 images.
(SteveH)
Something huge shows up very near the Dec 18 coordinates Ra: 4 22 31, Dec: 12 7
15.7 and other large
(SteveH) objects can be seen trailing below and to the
left. Again, not on DSS or NEAT images.
(NancyL) The confused Sheperds of
sci.astro think all posters in support of ZT are me :-).
(SteveH) it's an
ongoing thing, everyone is Nancy!
(Xenu) How huge is huge, how many
arc-seconds Steve?
(MikeO) Steve/Nancy: There are 15 fits files on the latest
Yahoo page. Are there any one or two we should look at first?
(NancyL) Yes,
TonyO, I lifted your posting for inclusion on my sci.astro web pages. :-)
A1!
(DonMB) How metaphysical of you
(SteveH) It looks to be the largest
thing on the image, not sure arc second size
(Obany) like if they respond to
ABC they are saying ABC (Nancy) ... sigh
(Dave7) If this body was in the
states with money, it would visit Tom Browns Tracking school.
(SteveH) I
think the dust cloud is really becoming visible now
(NancyL) Great! Many
thanks to both Steve AND Naji, who BOTH did this image session in
effect.
(MikeO) I mean ZIP files
(Redeye) good work fellas !
(NancyL)
And continusing thanks to JWilliam, who burns the midnight oil on moons and
pixels.
(JWilliam) ;o) ThanX
(SteveH) MikoO, hmmm, they are all in folders
and zipped so not sure where everything is
(TonyO) Keep the data coming,
guys.... great work!
(NancyL) And as always, many thanks to our IRC cops, who
work their fingers to the bone behind the scenes keeping order.
(SteveH) the
Dec 14 images are the most dramatic though
(MikeO) Regardless, great
job.
(JWilliam) this new set is gonna be a bombshell ;o)
(Jeremy) The
sci.astro mob seems to think that anyone who believes in ZT is a 'droid' or
'drone'. Perhaps some are, but they [sci.astro] are not astute enough to
consider that independent minded thinkers could analyze ZT and draw their own
conclusions then be indoctrinated
(PmlOnline) SteveH, can you have your
latest pics placed on zetatalk.com? The yahoo briefcase site is too slow to
download anything.
(NancyL) And as always, in the developing body of
ZetaTalk, we thank the questioners without whom there would BE no ZetaTalk, as
it is an answer to the Call of the Questioner!
(Cmell) thx for a nice set of
sessions NL ?
(3j) the last post about the new images people are just saying
report it and explain the methods of analysis
(Me) Nancy: You were right. I
should have said "Disc. Ch. claims" such and such....
(3j) except that Ceebee
one
(AGreenspan) Possibly..yet you think that everyone on Sci.astor is a
mob
(SteveH) pmlonline, I think the images will be on ZT soon
(3j) but
asides from that, what is wrong
(NancyL) I'd love to know how many
arc-seconds the tail and Moon swirl is, so we can align this with ancient
folklore on the Fire Dragon that roared through the sky on past pole shift
times.
(NancyL) Snaking tail, whipping this way and that in slow motion,
following Px as it passes.
(PmlOnline) thanks
(JWilliam) Ill work up a
possible gif on it using the 4 20 minutes and send for review.
(SteveH) [3j],
there is too much red tape etc. to report and then it would just be ignored
anyway so I consider to be a waste of time
(NancyL) I think we should analyze
the behavior of the Shepherds.
(NancyL) 1. Tholen admitted to a "variable
star" on Nov 15th
(NancyL) 2. IMO admitted to a NEW object not on the charts
for Dec 4th
(Mugada) any Australians here wish to chat more email me ,,,
gtcac@bigpond.net.au
(SteveH) and then by the time you've gone through the
trouble, PX will have moved etc. so would not be on the edge
(TonyO) IMO is
very quiet lately. :)
(NancyL) I think they picked up from side chatter,
among astronomers NOT posting on sci.astro but private email or phone
conversations, that the debunking was no longer working.
(NancyL) To CONTINUE
to deny anything there would make them irrelevant, so they started
admitting.
(JWilliam) at 115 % you can argue - at 175 % you need an excuse
;o)
(SteveH) they are really beginning to sound silly on
sci.astro
(NancyL) But they are kind of caught in a catch-22. Now someone
will come up with "what" it is, and then the fact that the behavior of the new
object(s) is exactly what the Z's predicted will be known, so they are
caught.
(SteveH) especially MC going on long rants about
(AGreenspan) All
will be resolved in 4 months time, why worry?
(Jeremy) Even Marc Buie of the
Lowell Observatory conceded to The New Scientist that PX might be repsonsible
for cleaving the outer edge of the Kuiper belt
(NancyL) But the
establishment, NASA et al, will claim it will NOT pass Earth.
(SteveH)
nothing of any importance, no information or anything to say about the
images
(Obany) SteveH: i would agree on that i follow that newsgroup for
years now
(NancyL) They may state it is an asteroid, so Star Wars gets all
the funding wanted, etc.
(NancyL) They may state it is a comet, outgassing
something red, and small and harmless.
(NancyL) My bet is that whatever they
call it will be designed to allow the elite to move to their bunkers,
etc.
(k000t) what ever the elite say will be full of holes and
disinformation
(NancyL) But since ZT has had their RA and Dec for 3/3/03 out
there since 1995, kind of hard to take THAT away from them :-)
(JubJub963)
jeremy , is there a link to that new scientist article
(k000t) why listernm
to them
(Redeye) no doubt, k000t
(Jeremy) JubJub: Sorry, its only in the
magazine, but if you go to the site www.newscientist.com you can see the front
page
(SteveH) Jeremy, the guy from Lowell also said something to the affect
that there was "something funny going on out there".
(Phoenix) Thankfully, we
have learned not to listen to their stories much, by now!
(Jeremy) SteveH:
Yeah he gave away hints
(LadyInRed) bye all,later ((huggs))
(NancyL) I
think that many will follow TonyO's lead and outright challenge the garbage
being spewed on sci.astro.
(Dave7) 'Those who are at peace in their hearts
already are in the great shelter of life.
(Scuba) i'm new but why spend time
debating? it just to close
(LadyInRed) good session!
(NancyL) Yes, I'm
taking my leave now too, as I'm behind on wrapping the new ZT into the body of
ZT on the web, etc.
(TonyO) It needs to be challenged, especially now... but
you do take heat.
(NancyL) The 15th is tomorrow, and I'm not ready with ZT
What's New!
(Scuba) thank u nancy
(NancyL) Gotto go, get to work,
etc.
(Bailey) thanks Nancy
(SteveH) good work again on there TonyO, not
backing down etc.
(NancyL) Bye all!
Session Close: Sat Dec 14 17:18:02
2002