Session Start: Sat Dec 28 16:00:44 2002
(Howmo) Dell, no "fuck off" this
time?
(MrYou) Donmb: in theory an object in orbit is already under
"influence" or it would not be in orbit..
(Humvee) y should b getting closer
faster
(Endeavour3d) Howmo, only if you hammer
(NancyL) Howmo, you're
being proved WRONG steadily by the imaging ongoing.
(Alex2221) fuck all u
newcomers
(JWilliam) HBO: The size has gone on PX White, from 1 pixel on Sept
21, to 3 pixels on most of the recent sets
(NancyL) THAT is your answer, to
all your garbage.
(Alex2221) oh sorry
(Endeavour3d) wow, that was a fast
response
(Zetapal) Just had a pvt with Butch - he's lived in West Virginia
for the past 2 yrs or so, in talking to Jim about the area briefly, he mentioned
this:
(Zetapal) Butch: but at least i know my way around here now... one
thing that scares me though is the natural gas wells around here... they're
everywhere... a few good earthquakes and i could see this place going up like a
match..
(Zetapal) Butch: in fact there was a few pipe ruptures a during the
summer... the local news said it was due to shifting ground...
(QuarkBurger)
Does anyone here know orbital mechanics?
(MrYou) no one should fear
death.
(NancyL) ANNOUNCEMENT: Steve Havas et al have taken more images, now
available for download from the TEAM page.
(Howmo) Nancy, does Obany screen
your questions now?
(MrYou) Nancy: URL?
(NancyL) Dec 27 and Dec 28, both
nights, and PX is tracking right along where the Zetas said it would
be.
(Howmo) He is telling me wha t I can ask.
(Alex2221) Q : what do have
to say about the prophency of the "Gog War"?
(Jeremy) Nancy: I downloaded the
red filtered ones and examined a couple of them myself this morning
(NancyL)
Getting larger, brighter, moons now increasingly evident (you can almost count
them).
(SteveH)
http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/shavas22.htm
(AlphaCentauri) NancyL: Why
did you refuse to answer the question from Yugo about the String Theory last
session?
(Rich) "Gog War" ?? Russia?
(QuarkBurger) MrYou, DonMB, Do either
of you know orbital mechanics?
(Inkpen) Howmo that is rude
(MrYou) not
I.
(QuarkBurger) Does anyone here know orbital mechanics?
(Alex2221)
Russia??????
(Sano) Rich Gog War - what is it?
(NancyL) Alph, I also
refuse to respond to the Needle theory. Oh, never heard of that? Just another
whacko human theory without grounds.
(NancyL) I save my breath, in other
words.
(BoY) lol
(NancyL) Just because YOU think it valid does not make it
so.
(Rich) Magog & Gog in Bible ? I don't know
(BrianC) Open session
today?
(MrYou) string theory is becoming accepted.
(AlphaCentauri)
NancyL: ok I understand and agrre
(Endeavour3d) JWilliam, the ASKC has an
$18,000 CCD camera on loan from NASA, so I am quite certain it will give the
images people have been wanting. The view of Saturn was
spectacular
(AlphaCentauri) agree
(Alex2221) yes Magog and
Gog!!!
(DonMB) Nor I. But I'm not sure are finest know as much as they
pretend as they have not been off the planet
(QuarkBurger) Nancy, can I ask
you a question about Planet X's trajectory?
(NancyL) Alex, who says the Gog
War exists? Folks, as I've stated endlessly, if someone ELSE says it is so, we
will NOT comment unless 1. they predict, 2. they have an accuracy track
record.
(ChiefSimi) Nancy, can I ask question to have an agenda, or do you
already have one?
(Rich) Alex been many years since I read Book Of
Revelations
(Gyflex) is the current stocks decline the decisive
one?
(Rich) that's where its mentioned
(NancyL) Howmo, this IRC is not
HowmoTalk, which you want it to be.
(Alex2221) Nancy -
www.gogindex.com
(BrianC) Where the Raelians company Clonaid successful in
cloning a human?
(NancyL) Have your own session and see who comes. No
one.
(MrYou) Nancy: do the Zetas refer to something we call "Akashic Records"
(NOT the book).
(QuarkBurger) Nancy, can I ask you a question about Planet
X's trajectory?
(Inkpen) Quark: imagine where PX is now and what angle to the
earth it would have to be to cause a 90 degree shit
(Sano) Rich can u explain
me what its means Gog War???
(Obany) Howmo: i told you ... don't demand or
else leave
(NancyL) Are we talking HUMAN Orbital Mechanics? Ah, one step up
from the Flat Earth Society and SO ARROGANT about being "right".
(Howmo)
Nancy, so scope and magnitude questions are not allowed?
(Redeye) lol
Inkpen
(Jeremy) Inkpen: lol
(ChiefSimi) in S126 the Zetas described that
the speed of passage is:
(ChiefSimi) "increase in speed to leave the inner
solar system as the laser blasts of gravity particles coming from the Sun added
to the momentum past the Sun already in place combine to speed it on its
way."
(ChiefSimi) Is it perhaps a restrained momentum? Would the Zetas please
explain why Planet X pick up speed then?
(NancyL) MrYou, but humans who used
to think the Earth was Flat, etc.
(Rich) Sano: read
(NancyL) Quark, yes,
what is your Q?
(MrYou) Nancy: huh?
(MrYou) Nancy: what does that have to
do with my question?
(Jeremy) Inkpen: all it takes is a missing f
;)
(JWilliam) Endeavour: I look forward to your images. Don't forget the Red
Filters.
(NancyL) Clone Q accepted.
(MichaeLCunningham) at least OUR
orbital mechanics and physics work
(QuarkBurger) Nancy, I have also
mistrusted Kepler's orbital mechanics, but I can't find out where it's in error.
Do you know?
(SpaceCadet) Nancy: how accurate are the things written about
the "Annunaki" in the Necronomicon?
(Jeremy) hey Michael C!
(Obany)
MichaeLCunningham: keep your mouth shut please
(Redeye) lol
Obany
(MichaeLCunningham) lol!
(Alex2221) Nancy do the zetas are
draconians?
(AlphaCentauri) Rael recruits members among the scientists of the
French, and surely American universities.
(DonMB) Nancy, how are
you?
(AlphaCentauri) SpaceCadet: you own a copy of the
Necronomicon?
(NancyL) MC, so says YOU. What I want to know, MC, is if you're
going to be available to all those you've mislead when the PS
happens!
(SpaceCadet) a friend does, but I've read a bit of
it
(QuarkBurger) Nancy, I have also mistrusted Kepler's orbital mechanics,
but I can't find out where it's in error. Do you know?
(NancyL) Where are you
located, Mr Disinfo artist, paid as well to do this.
(MichaeLCunningham) I'm
ALWAYS available Nancy
(AlphaCentauri) SpaceCadet: the Necronomicon doesn't
exist.
(MrYou) Nancy: can you answer my question please? Are you familiar
with the "Akashic Records" (NOT the book)?
(NancyL) Quark, I'm not the keeper
of Kepler, no.
(SpaceCadet) oh really? :p
(ChiefSimi) Dr. Herbert Illig
made scientific investigations and presented proofs that 300 years were added
into our history by King Constantin in the past, creating history on paper. So
it looks like that the years AD 614 - AD 911 are missing. I'm sure the Zetas
would like to comment this.
(Rich) hello Nancy from New Zealand. This is my
first #zetatalk visit
(MikeAus) thanks Obany!
(AGreenspan) Please explain
the structure of your society, specifically - how are major matters decided?
What role if any do the elderly "play" in your society? What do you derive
pleasure from most? Thank you.
(Jeremy) Obany: Come on, that wasn't
warranted
(NancyL) OK, the hour is here and I have a couple accepted Q's.
Going to start with Q1
(NancyL) Chief, I'll take your Q too.
(Obany)
Jeremy: it wasn't a ban just a warning ... nothing more
(NancyL) US/RUSSIA
RE ALIENS
(NancyL) 1. True that US and Russia are not enemies when Reagan and
Gorbachev met in the capital of Island Reykyavik, on the press-conference Reagan
said as a joke: If aliens will come down on earth then US and Soviet Union will
join in union to fight these aliens. But it was not just brief note, it was one
of the long discussed issues between SU and US. They spent few hours talking
about it.
(NancyL) ZT: It has long been rumored, due mostly to Reagan's
tendency to have lose lips while dealing with early senility, that high level
discussions about aliens, and Armaghedon, occurred among heads of
state.
(NancyL) ZT: Reagan was rumored to be obsessed with Armaghedon, the
End Times, talking at lenght about this to visitors to the White
Hourse.
(NancyL) ZT: Reagan was known to have made the statements, publically
and on film, that were the Earth to be invaded by aliens from outer space, that
all countries would band together, put their differences aside.
(NancyL) ZT:
Were there such high level talks, in particular between Russian and the US
during Reagan's time?
(NancyL) ZT: Indeed there were, and they went beyond
talk.
(NancyL) ZT: Agreements were signed, locked away in the places the
secret governments of both countries maintained in those days, NOT to be
available to the public who was being misled utterly about the alien
presence.
(NancyL) ZT: Like the rumors about Martial Law about to be imposed
in the US, papers signed, FEMA put into control, and the ultra-right in the US
trying to start this process early by the OKC bombing and the TWA800 missile
attack.
(NancyL) ZT: These rumors have a solid basis in truth, but what is
NOT understood is how difficult it is for such secret agreements to become law,
accepted by the populace.
(NancyL) ZT: One day Russian and the US are
enemies, on all fronts, and the next they are working as partners?
(NancyL)
ZT: Never mind what you were told yesterday, your emotions engaged, all manner
of exageration given to enflame your emotions, TODAY it is all
different.
(NancyL) ZT: This simply does not fly, and the public figure
trying to work such a quick-change viewed with suspicion.
(NancyL) ZT:
Perhaps they have gone mad, been taking drugs, had a stroke, or otherwise lost
it.
(NancyL) ZT: They are DISCOUNTED.
(NancyL) ZT: In like manner, should
the Bush Administration, by general agreement or forced to do so, decide that
Martial Law should be imposed, the public would hardly just go
along.
(NancyL) ZT: The relutance would be so disruptive, passive aggressive
at the very least, that the nation would come to a standstill.
(NancyL) ZT:
This would NOT simply be the public, assumed to be pushed around by guns, but
the gun holders, the military!
(NancyL) ZT: Such quick-change, without
explanation, ordered from above, does not succeed.
(NancyL) ZT: What was the
agreement the Russians and the US signed, back in Reagans day?
(NancyL) ZT:
As stated by the senile President Reagan to the public, all guns would be
pointed outward, all information shared, with neither joining into an agreement
with the aliens.
(NancyL) ZT: It has been rumored that Russia has its version
of MJ12 as well, and this is TRUE.
(NancyL) ZT: A secret government, aware of
the alien presence, and ambitious for alien technology.
(NancyL) ZT: Where
the US had possession of alien ships, which they could NOT reverse engineer or
control, the Russians were only allowed to participate on the good graces of the
US military, who was very jealous of their possessions.
(NancyL) ZT: What was
clear to the Russians, however, was that the US was not succeeding in gaining
any technology, and thus these talks fell by the wayside.
(NancyL) ZT: The
truth of the matter became apparent, that NO technology would be made available
to humans, and NO invasion was pending.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter,
followup?
(Lebrasse) Nancy, what years was Alternative 3 in operation, during
Reagan era ?
(Inkpen) Nancy: i heard Reagan has developed alzhiemers; seems
rather convieniant... was this diliberet? (sorry for bad spelling,
heh)
(Jeremy) Please keep follow up questions relevant to previous ZT answer
:)
(AlphaCentauri) What about other "nuclear" countries, such as France or
the UK?
(NancyL) Leb, I forget what Alt 3 was, now, let me go
check.
(AGreenspan) Leave the planet..
(Obany) and don't ask irreleveant
questions
(Inkpen) head for Mars
(MrYou) how is it that OKC bombing had
political reasons behind it????
(NancyL) Alternative 3 was Mt Weather, going
underground? I'm sure this was big time push during Reagan, seems to
me.
(Rich) run on TV in UK in early 70's prior to Reagen
(Phoenix) How
aware was Pres. Truman of the STS slant of early MJ12, CIA?
(NancyL) InkPen,
he was probably chosen because of this, weak, taking orders,
etc.
(galaxyexplorer) Q to Nancy: Was there a joint operation between US and
Russia for Mars exploration?
(Lebrasse) No, Alternative 3 was going to
Moon/Mars
(Inkpen) ok...thx Nancy
(NancyL) Alpha, no agreements with
France and UK, but they became aware of pole shift and aliens, at least at high
levels.
(AlphaCentauri) ok
(NancyL) MrYou, this is in ZT, re OKC, was
trying to SPARK Martial Law by claiming that terrorists did it, etc.
(MrYou)
but thats not ture.
(Rich) TV chiefs tryed to downplay Alt 3 as April Fools
joke on TV after it aired
(MrYou) how does one bombing spark martial law?
thats not logical.
(Alex) question to Nency : what are the requiremented
properies and attributions from a public figure in order to be told of the
poleshift ??
(MrYou) sorry I disagree.
(MrYou) I have a very important
nonrelated question tho..
(BrianC) Nancy: How do the Zetas suggest we deal
with anger? How do STO deal with anger?
(NancyL) ZT to Galaxy: Satellites,
Space Stations, Mars Exploration, are up front and need no secret
agreements.
(Endeavour3d) Howmo is a very strange person, I've been tlaking
to him privately but his intentions are very unclear to me.
(NancyL) ZT:
Secret agreements are in place to cover those matters the public is NOT to even
be aware of, such as aliens, the coming pole shift.
(NancyL) End ZT to
Galaxy.
(NancyL) MrYou, please read the Govmt section re OKC, TWA800,
etc.
(MrYou) from Edgar Cayces example of accessing the "Akashic Records" and
providing medicinal recipes to the public.. a very respectable and needed public
service.. what do the Zetas say in regards to this?
(MrYou) Nancy: its
illogical I'm sorry.
(Inkpen) MrYou what evidence can you use top support
your claim?
(MrYou) which?
(Inkpen) the former
(NancyL) Brian, dealing
with anger is nothing NEW, for man. Why ask the Zetas re this?
(MrYou) a
single bombing has not once in history created or sparked martial
law.
(NancyL) Endeavor, I'd not trust Howmo.
(Rich) MrYou start of
WW1
(Endeavour3d) I concur, I'm just very confused by him, he reminds me of
Gollum
(SpaceCadet) actually, that wasn't a bombing at all.. just an
assassination ;p
(Inkpen) no, but it is like a puzzle that bombing was a
piece of adding to the eventual buildup to martial law mr you
(Rich) Gollum:
lol
(NancyL) MrYou, are you suggesting the Zetas gen up Cayce clones?
(MrYou) Inkpen: with zero results.
(MrYou) Nancy: wth?!?!?
(NancyL)
MrYou, this is not how it all works.
(Obany) how could conctactees,
starchildren who are aware of their tasks after the pole shift, like continueing
to inform and help with the transformation 'achieve' this.. If they want to
reach out to folks etc?
(MrYou) Nancy: are you reading my questions
properly?
(JWilliam) Mr You: remember the Maine? Cuba
(NancyL) OK, doing
Q2 re Cloning.
(NancyL) CLONE
(NancyL) 1. Where the Raelians company
Clonaid successful in cloning a human?
(NancyL) ZT: Cloning, as with the
Sheep Dolly, is not difficult.
(NancyL) ZT: The difficulty is having a 100%
success, such that no one can claim an injury has occurred.
(NancyL) ZT:
Childbirth, conception, and having a heathy baby is not guaranteed even under
normal circumstances.
(NancyL) ZT: However, parents who proceed and have a
damaged child normally do not have a right to sue, or complain, unless clear
malpractice by the doctor or hospital occurred.
(NancyL) ZT: If it is a
genetic toss of the dice, then no complaints are filed.
(NancyL) ZT: Cloning
should, theoretically, produce an offspring identical to the parents, but what
if all the DNA does not transfer, or during early development expresses
differently becuase of a different early environmnet?
(NancyL) ZT: A leg not
forming, as the nudge to do so is not there, the DNA perfect but the nudge
lacking.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, cloned human infants ARE being developed, HAVE
been developed, but until the product is certain, no publicity will be
forthcoming.
(NancyL) ZT: Those making the most noise, however, have NOT,
themselves, done this cloning.
(NancyL) ZT: They are seeking the spotlight,
and have secured it, as no court in the land can force them to produce something
protected under doctor/patient laws.
(NancyL) ZT: Before court orders can
ensure, an injury must be produced.
(NancyL) ZT: Was a law broken) No law for
human cloning exists that would put the claimants in jail, certainly not without
proof of their actions.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, their strutting on stage is
safe.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter.
(MikeAus) Q: of what orientation is
the head of the Raelians? Is he a contactee?
(Inkpen)
fascinating
(AlphaCentauri) And what about the cloning project of the Italian
gynaecologist Severino Antinori?
(BrianC) Was she a perfect clone?
(MrYou)
with all respect Nancy, why are you avoiding my question about Edgar Cayce and
specificly the Akashic Records?
(groomee) just because we compell a human
form to grow by cloning.is it compelled to have a soul also?
(BrianC) Was the
Realian leader Real really visited by any sort of aliens? Is his story
true?
(NancyL) Someone that stuck on himself is hardly STO, my
thinking.
(MikeAus) agreed
(Endeavour3d) DNA does not create souls, a
persond decides for themselves if they want to incarnate
(Alex) MrYou: you go
man!
(MichaeLCunningham) Dell: Martial law was never decreeded after the
Maine incident. The Spanish-American War ensued but martial law was never
declared in this country.
(MrYou) from Edgar Cayces example of accessing the
"Akashic Records" and providing medicinal recipes to the public.. a very
respectable and needed public service.. what do the Zetas say in regards to
this?
(NancyL) MrYou, Q declined as being silly. Of COURSE more of Mr Cayce
would be nice! So would a lot of things we don't get just because we want
them.
(JWilliam) MC: Martial law WAS declared in Cuba after the US invaded
;o)
(Sano) i think that here in chat can be some agents from MJ12 and
Russian analog MJ12 :)))
(MikeAus) the Raelians seem to be a cult of
personality, similar to Heaven's Gate
(MrYou) I'm asking what the Zetas have
to say about the "Akashic Records"... what is silly about
that???
(MichaeLCunningham) Dell: D'uh!
(NancyL) MrYou, this is in the
Awakening section, I think, I'll go check.
(MrYou) seriously with
respect.
(MrYou) I did a search it is not.
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(MikeAus) Cunningham, must you insult people?
(AGreenspan) Keep
at it Mr. - great entertainment - 'till Obany gets tired of you
(Alex) the
Raelians don't believe in existence of a soul don't they???
(NancyL) MrYou,
got to do your homework! Awakening section "The Akashic Records and the book,
Keepers of the Garden, are fiction, incorporating bits of this and that such as
various messages contactees have relayed, science fiction staples, human hopes,
and themes from the Bible. All very entertaining but without any basis in fact
whatsoever. Phil, the main character, does not exist, nor does the Council of
Worlds channel through humans as implied in this book, nor is the Council
composed of 12 or even any set number, nor are the Zetas developing a hybrid
race to populate a planet other than Earth. Fiction. All of it."
(DonMB)
There is something about the book
(MrYou) I am not refering to a
book
(MrYou) !!!!!
(MrYou) as I have mentioned before!!
(MrYou) please
do your homework mam.
(BrianC) Nancy, So is there a clone? If there is, is it
not perfect?
(BrianC) What do the Zetas say?
(NancyL) There ARE no Akashic
Records. The person writing that book made it up.
(Parlous2112) Question 2
Zetas: why can u spin a a conductive disc next to a magnet and get a voltage on
the conducting disc, but if u spin the magnet only, no voltage is induced (all
motions relative to space)?
(MrYou) Nancy: then what was Edgar Cayce and many
others accessing?!?!
(MrYou) this is what I ask of the zetas.
(NancyL) 1.
if they do not predict, 2 if they have no prediction accuracy ... NO COMMENT ON
THE GARBAGE OTHERS STATE.
(NancyL) OK, onto Q3.
(MrYou) this is common
knowledge..
(NancyL) LAST POLE SHIFT TIME
(NancyL) 1 Dr. Herbert Illig
made scientific investigations and presented proofs that 300 years were added
into our history by King Constantin in the past, creating history on paper. So
it looks like that the years AD 614 - AD 911 are missing. I'm sure the Zetas
would like to comment this.
(NancyL) Well, no need for the Zetas to comment,
as this is well documented that there is confusion re the TIME of the last
shift.
(NancyL) The Jewish Exodus is speculated to be 1,550 BC, or perhaps
1,300 BC or some such.
(NancyL) Thera, the volcanoe that blew in the
Mediterranean at that time is speculated perhaps to be 1,628 BC, latest and best
guess.
(NancyL) The Egyptian census keeping STOPPED, for centuries, after the
last pole shift.
(NancyL) So no exact dates are available, counting
backwards, to verify the 3,600 or 3,657 year cycle.
(NancyL) Here Chief's Q
seems to be the opposite, that rather than MISSING 300 years, we had them
stuffed into the time line.
(NancyL) ZT: In the past, following the last pole
shift, record keeping stopped and did not reinstitute for centuries.
(NancyL)
ZT: In some areas, there was record keeping by some means that or another, such
as counting the days that passed, the number of seasons that passed, and
eventually these records came to the attention of those with time to muse on
these issues.
(NancyL) ZT: Where one cilivization failed to record during
this or that period, another perhaps stepped into the void and kept reasonable
records.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, putting all this together, it became clear that
some centuries were MISSING here or there, and to keep all in sync, theese
missing centuries should be inserted.\
(NancyL) ZT: In fact, they did not
insert enough time, but were trying to be conservative.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus,
there is utter confusion, in human record keeping, on the timing of the last
pole shift, which is seen as occurring too CLOSE to the birht of Chirst to fit
the 3,600 model arriving at 2003.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter.
(NancyL)
Followup?
(MrYou) I'm sorry I disagree as much astral projection
experimentation has found the Akashic Records to be true. I have had my own
visions as confirmation. Good luck to you all.
(BrianC) Nancy, The Zetas
weren't clear on the last question about the clone. Was there a successful clone
or not? Also could the Zetas give there predictions for 2003 leading up to the
shift?
(Inkpen) when i use the 3657 year figure, i have found most major
catalcysms occure in this interval, really interesting
(QuarkBurger) Nancy, I
don't know if you endorse the time left until visibility on the Shift2003
website. It doesn't work out though. I'd like to show you what I've come up
with. Were you going to address that?
(Jeremy) Inkpen: indeed, I have noticed
that too.
(Endeavour3d) About what MrYou said, I think that what he wanted to
know is what the the "Source" of their messages? also known as the Akashic
Records? Not the book, but the source of universal information.
(MrYou)
correct.
(MrYou) and zetatalk states they were from beings.
(Inkpen) Mr
You...perhaps the Akashic Records are a mental crutch used to triggure what ESP
you already have
(NancyL) MrYou, sorry, back to the prediction thing. I don't
care WHAT someone else SAYS. They have zero validity.
(MrYou) in regards to
Edgar Cayce.
(QueenVee) Quarkburger: take that up with me; it is meant to
reflect what zetatalk has predicted. if there is an error, email me about it:
queenvee59@hotmail.com
(NancyL) Brian, yes, successful cloning of humans has
been done.
(MrYou) Nancy: thats fine, I've had my own confirmation which
correlates to many others.
(QuistisAway) NancyL: Someone that stuck on
himself is hardly STO, my thinking.
(NancyL) Brian, these are just a handful
of babies, what does this have to do with the shift?
(Endeavour3d)
however....that is what the Zetas think, but even those very VERY high density
non-coporeal beings are limited. Wouldn't the source come from God as
well?
(Alex2221) QV : what was wrong with my question back then?
(Inkpen)
why point that out Quistis?
(BrianC) Nothing, just a prediction
thing.
(QuistisAway) Read it as Nancy is "stuck on herself"
(NancyL)
Quark, what are you talking about "visibility of the Shift2003
website"?
(Inkpen) q... that is very rude@!
(NancyL) Popularity, being
known, or what?
(AlphaCentauri) Nobody knows of what origin were the
Sumerians. Could the Zetas put a light on this?
(BrianC) Nancy, Anger has a
lot to do with the shift as the Zetas said lots of people will be angry. Do they
have any suggestions on dealing with anger?
(QuarkBurger) Nancy, the
countdown to Planet X visibility
(MrYou) when people experience the Akashic
Records there is often a being there willing to help, but the energy associated
with the information from these records (past or future) is never a being.. it
is an energy....
(MikeO) Can the Zetas remind us when Planet X should be
visible in the daytime sky . . . late March? I'm using this as a benchmark to
start telling other people.
(NancyL) Endeavor, the source of info is defined
in the ZT section the Call, from other spirits. This is what Cayce stated in
fact, and souls never forget anything, stated in the Density section of
ZT.
(Alex2222) i'm sorry Obany
(MrYou) people experience this energy often
as a library... I'll leave it alone now.
(Obany) There are many ways to deal
with anger, and being scared because of the shift
(BrianC) The Zetas haven't
commented on dealing with anger yet
(NancyL) Alpha, Sumerians were humans,
but also were visiting the giant hominoids from the 12th Planet, interacting
with them.
(Alex2222) ok Obany
(MrYou) Brianc: The Hathors have
;-)
(Parlous2112) will the zetas comment on spinning magnets and conductive
discs close at hand ? like why it seems only the conductive disc and mag field
matters relative to the rest of space ?
(Rich) Breath deeply
(Endeavour3d)
there has to be more than Spirits, I understand that the Zetas have the same
understanding about God as us, but what I mean is, isn't it possible; That God
is a source, not just spirits? Unless of course God is a unified
being?
(MrYou) zetas can kiss my butt.
(NancyL) BrianC re anger, this came
up recently month or so ago on chat, and Zetas did a piece on DIRECTING this to
action.
(MrYou) ;-)
(AlphaCentauri) I know but I would like to know of
what race?
(NancyL) Take the What's New links back and find this, I think may
be titled Hour After, as anger will be rampant, natural response, in
all.
(Obany) Endeavour3d: God himself doesn't give the messages... for what i
know, that's not how it works
(Inkpen) Mr...sigh
(Alex2222) MrYou be
careful what u wishing for
(MrYou) Alex: hahaha
(BrianC) Yes. hmm
thanks.
(NancyL) Parlous, have you read the existing ZT on Magnetism? It is a
particle flow.
(AlphaCentauri) They didn't semme to be the same ethnic as
Assyrians or Babylonians
(Redeye) haha
(NancyL) Endav, Zetas have stated
they do not know what God is any more than we do, so they cannot
comment.
(AGreenspan) Better later than never
(BrianC) Nancy: What are the
Zeta's predictions for 2003?
(BrianC) Leading into the shift that
is.
(NancyL) Alpha, they were the same race as the humans living there today!
Very little interbreeding with the giants, and this is already in
ZT.
(NancyL) Read King David in the Myths section.
(Rich) is the Jewish
Passover at Easter Time?
(Endeavour3d) Nancy, I just said that, I'm saying
like us, can they make....a guess? a Spiritual guestumation?
(Torbj)
hello!
(Redeye) hi
(CMell) hey
(MikeAus) hi Torbj
(AlphaCentauri)
but theur origins, where they come, is still obscure, apparently they came form
India
(NancyL) BrianC, your Q on 2003 predictions held over as we are out of
time now, good Q. Top of the agenda for next Sat, appropriate for the coming New
Year holiday, etc.
(Parlous2112) i agreee with everything the zetas have said
in the science section; the only thing i can gather is after mag energy flows
thru the nucleus, and flys thru the electrons (i am guessing the mag particles
'funnel' out ?) they move without caring how the magnetic-spitting material
rotates about - but only to a certain degree? i am unsure ultimately
tho
(BrianC) Thank You Nancy.
(Tied2) op I have never seen Obany do
anything out of line
(Endeavour3d) heh, perhaps...one day, I can have this
discussion with a zeta myself
(NancyL) Endeav, request for wild ass Zeta
speculation declined :-)
(Endeavour3d) I was thinking, maybe Nancy could get
an Alienware Computer, the MJ12 comp is increbile
(ChiefSimi) Nancy, I didn't
ask that because of last pole shift time. According to Illig, King Constantin
had deliberately cheated, wrote his glorious history, which he hadn't. Thanks
for asking anyway!
(DonMB) Nancy L: How are you doing?
(NancyL) Alpha,
India is just around the corner from Sumeria! Mankind migrated. Gypsies also
origin from India, right? They are all over Europe.
(Endeavour3d) oh bah! I
knew it :P Nancy is like a credit card company declined declined declined :)
(Obany) it was a good session again Nancy, thank you and the Zetas for that
(BrianC) Nancy: Do the Zetas have any predictions of approx. when the actual
planet will be mentioned on National News like CNN?
(Rich) Nancy bread prices
and all baked goods prices are going up (approx 30%) here in NZ. Fresh veggies
in Australia and NZ getting pricey.
(Silk) Gypsies are Hungarian/Romanian
Nancy
(AGreenspan) Gypsies originated from Egypt, hence the name.
(NancyL)
Chief, humm, apparently he saw an opportunity! If the records had been firm, he
may have hesitated.
(Obany) AGreenspan: no from India not from Egypt ... Silk
from India ... or do you only know about astronomy
(Longint) Silk: they are
not.
(Parlous2112) well, this DEFINATE:Y comes to mind; if all is relative,
as they say, and nothing moves without reason, as they say - then how does this
substance of time 'push' at everything ? what pushes the time material ? is the
their current 'unknown' ? like how does God do that ?
(Silk) Really Obany?
Where did you read that?
(Me) I also have read, from India.
(NancyL)
Rich, I got a forward via email re homelessness and hunger in Denver, CO of all
places.
(NancyL) Skyrocketing, and they don't know how to feed them
anymore.
(AGreenspan) I stand corrected, gypsies originated from Northern
India.
(NancyL) NOT in the major media, of course.
(Jeremy) Argentina is
suffering very badly now from hunger, poverty
(NancyL) Silk, and very dark
skinned.
(Rich) nope local papers only
(Ptomais) (blame the WTO for
that!)
(Nightbird) Nancy, Z's right again concerning North Korea
(Ptomais)
for
(Silk) As are most Hungarians
(Alex2222) question : i'm a student -
and awering of the poleshift approach led me to abandoning my studies. because
of that it's now hard for me to deal with the optional fact of no poleshit and
i'm really scared and confused now. i need some advice.
(NancyL) Long is
Hungarian, Silk.
(MrYou) thanks.
(SteveH) Hungarians are fairly light
skinned
(MrYou) sorry about my comment, I don't care for them too much
tho..
(Rich) Alex you need to lead a double life
(BrianC) Nancy: How much
longer do the Zetas think Planet X can be kept out of National News such as
CNN?
(Silk) No Steve, they are not.
(NancyL) Nightbird, yes, I noted that
the papers even stress that N Korea is trying to negotiate "benefits" from the
US re this nuke rattling they are doing.
(Rich) study &
prepare
(SteveH) My family is Hungarian
(Rich) its tough
(MikeAus) CNN
is the LAST place you'll hear about it
(Parlous2112) why would the government
be allowed to even start messing with density shifting, like the Philadelphia
experiment, which would lead to all sorts of physics theories at least if not
technology, if we are a playpen of 3rd Density babies? is that not a loaded
gun?
(Silk) That means nothing Steve
(Obany) Silk: Gypsies are not from
Hungaria
(NancyL) Alex, if the weatherman warns of a storm coming and you
worry about that, this is YOUR problem, not the weatherman's
problem.
(Longint) Havas means snowy :)
(MichaeLCunningham)
LOL!
(Inkpen) heh
(Rich) i like that Nancy
(MrYou) we should start
worrying when amateur astronomers plot the course of Planet-X
(Silk) Where's
Hungaria Obany?
(Alex2222) hehe
(MrYou) cause by that time, professional
astronomers should have done the same.
(Torbj) im late....can the Zetas
coment on the newly aproach from the NASA that is "blurring" the SOHO
images
(ChiefSimi) I'm Hungarian too, and Hungarians are not gypsies!
Nonsense!
(NancyL) Silk is going to explain to you all where you can FIND her
when the pole shift starts to happen and you want to ask her why she mislead
you!
(Nmi) a lot of Hungarians here
(Parlous2112) density shifting relates
to Einstein's unified field theory; they know what that could bring; why not
more attention to the phenomenon from the establishment's secret
groups?
(BrianC) There are a lot of people who can't think for themselves and
won't believe a thing until they can see it on the News.
(NancyL) Is it
Manhattan? Silk, where you live?
(Nmi) me too
(InsideRevolution)
Hungarians everywhere :)
(Beta) Based on linguistic evidence (the similarity
of the Romany language to Hindi, Panjabi, and related languages of Northern
India) and anthropological evidence (body habitus and ABO blood group
distributions closely approximating those of the warrior classes of northern
India)(7), there is now a clear consensus of opinion that the modern day Roma of
the Middle East, Europe, Asia, and the Americas originated in Northwestern
India.
(Beta) http://www.romani.org/local/romhist.html
(NancyL) Can those
angry at being mislead come to say this to your face?
(InsideRevolution)
Hungarians from the Mars
(Sano) ChiefSimi Hungarian -nationality u
mean?
(Torbj) of the sun
(InsideRevolution) said Ede Teller
(Rich) God
help them afterwards then BrianC
(QuarkBurger) QueenVee, did you do the
counter on Shift2003?
(Silk) lol, so you all the Mediteranean and Middle East
is Indian as well?
(Jeremy) Nancy: Before you depart, could you possibly pose
a question to the Zs about the distance of PX from earth when PX just becomes
visible to the naked eye? Or perhaps for next week please?
(NancyL) Beta :-)
Yup, I recall similar studies. So SILK WRONG AGAIN!
(Silk) why not just say
all of Europe are Gypsies?
(BrianC) Rich, It's hard to cope when they are
friends and family.
(TakeMeHome) Good question Jeremy!
(MikeO) Thanks,
Steve and Naji for your continuing work on the Planet X images.
(QuarkBurger)
Jeremy, I think I might have an answer on that
(InsideRevolution) Nancy how
can Hungary prepare for invasion of homeless people?
(Beta) Roma ppl of the
mideast.. try reading Silk
(Beta) Roma equals Ggypsy
(Silk) lol
(Rich)
BrianC: I have a 2 month old grandson ... my first
(QuarkBurger) Jeremy,
Nancy, that relates to my question to Nancy
(Jeremy) TakeMeHome: Its
intrigued me for a long time actually
(NancyL) Jeremey, the distance charts
are fairly on target, let me go check that ...
(SteveH) QueenVee, what is
your URL?
(Silk) Hey Steve, I see your blotches didn't move on the
images
(MrYou) if anyone is interested #ufo on undernet.org is a nice channel
for open discussion ;-)
(Rich) but my daugher doesn't believe
(ChiefSimi)
Hungarians live in Hungary, Central-Europe, their relatives are the
Finns
(BrianC) Rich: I have a 1 month old son.
(TakeMeHome) Yes be nice to
know where PX is now!
(Rich) I'm resigned to the fate if it
happens
(InsideRevolution) it is not true
(InsideRevolution) Sumerians are
the relatives
(InsideRevolution) not Finnish
(InsideRevolution) it was a
great misleading of scients
(Rich) stay strong ... inner strength
(Obany)
this is zetatalk, not #antropology
(Jeremy) The Zetas have given a 14
million mile figure for the pole shift, so I hoped they could give one for the
distance just when PX is on the threshold of naked visiblity
(Parlous2112) PX
isn't supposed to come anymore the 14 million miles from earth i think during
the first passage
(ChiefSimi) Inside, ok. you are joking :)
(Endeavour3d)
after talking with Howmo, I actually feel sorry for him. He questions
everything, I told him I will wish the ebst for him and he questioned what
"best" I would wish. I think his spirit is scared
(Sano) ChiefSimi and wots
wrong with Hungary?
(Torbj) the Finns are my neighbourg´s
(Rich) remeber
only your outer shell will pass away
(Silk) Steve? No comment?
(Obany)
Silk: HUSH
(SteveH) Silk, your comments and opinions are irrelevant to
me
(InsideRevolution) no matter who is relatives :)
(MrYou) endeavour: the
reality is any who questions this now will still be able to survive later...
IMO.
(Silk) Gee Obany, I can't talk to Steve?
(InsideRevolution) Gens una
sumus
(Parlous2112) why does it matter WHEN u can really see it
anyway...
(QuarkBurger) QueenVee, did you do the counter on
Shift2003?
(NancyL) The distance chart says, for 4/2/03 which is about 6
weeks ahead of May 15, 2003, it will be 5.0412 Billion Miles
(Parlous2112)
it'll come too soon in any case
(InsideRevolution) We are 1 family
:)
(InsideRevolution) children of God
(Parlous2112) i hate that horrid
thing, Planet X
(MichaeLCunningham) 5.0412 billion from us or the
sun?
(DonMB) Nancy L: How are you doing?
(NancyL) Maybe Silk would like to
explain the NEW star that keeps moving, etc, right ON the Zeta
coordinates.
(InsideRevolution) What is the speed of Planet X?
(Jeremy)
NancyL: Yes thx for checking, but the Zetas said the human figures weren't
correct, if I remember right
(Silk)
http://m1.aol.com/deepspacegirl/dec27.html
(NancyL) Apparently, all she can
do is come in there and snarl.
(QuarkBurger) Nancy, 5 billion miles is way
past pluto
(Silk) There you go
(Silk) No star, noise on images, last 6
prove it
(NancyL) Poor looser, Silk, the game is up but she can't admit
that.
(Obany) Silk: already made a coment on sci.astro that there is nothing
there
(QuarkBurger) Nancy??
(QuarkBurger) Nancy, 5 billion miles is way
past pluto
(MichaeLCunningham) 5 billion from us or the sun?
(Silk) Hardly
Nancy, I'd say the game is up for you
(Parlous2112) PX is bigger the pluto
and gives off light
(MrYou) Nancy: no need for personal attacks.
(Jeremy)
For PX to be visible to the naked eye as a reddish cross I would surmise it
would be within Jupiters orbit
(Endeavour3d) you know what worries me, why
the beings on PX have been left in the cold while we are going to be pushed
ahead of them. They have been around alot longer than we have, so why are we
being pushed ahead of them?
(JWilliam) This noise moves , gets brighter and
follows a path "Amazing noise"
(Silk) Moves with the scope Dell, how obvious
- my kids even saw it
(TakeMeHome) What spedd will PX be travelling at to
reach us - it will be flying through the solar sysyem then if beyond Pluto 6
weeks before May 15th!
(MikeAus) the noise has moons
too-amazing
(Endeavour3d) brb, kick arse sunset otuside!
(QuarkBurger)
Nancy, I think there's something wrong with that chart
(Silk) And what
magnitude has it increased from Dell?
(NancyL) Quark, this was from a
distance chart human math done up. NOT ZetaTalk,
http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword03a.htm
(Torbj) no answer from the Zeta
regarding the NASA blurring of the SOHO Sun images?
(SteveH) noise is random,
a large spot of light being caught by the CCD on all images is not
noise
(JWilliam) Silk: your grasping at straws. Why? I don't know.
(Silk)
It is when it moves with the scope Steve
(NancyL) My question to YOU is, why
does it matter the exact distance?
(MichaeLCunningham) Nancy... 5 billion
from earth or the sun?
(Silk) and all the stars don't
(Obany) Silk because
well you indoctrinate your kids probably
(QuarkBurger) Nancy is this a
touchy subject?
(NancyL) Quark, when the Zetas were asked about it, they said
it was not correct.
(Jeremy) PX admitedlly emits dim light of its own, but to
be visible as a reddish cross to the naked eye it would have to be well within
the solar system I believe
(Silk) Harly Obany. I let them do the analysis so
theycould learn
(Silk) And they did it much better than Dell
(NancyL) PX
moves IN faster, then slows down when it gets to the outer edge of the solar
system.
(NancyL) But, close enough, etc.
(Rich) Jeremy : my Q was when is
the Jewish Passover ... Easter?
(Alex2222) Nancy : what do you think about
Gil Weinstein?
(NancyL) Torbj, NASA lies, what can we say beyond
that?
(NancyL) Silk is beating dead horses, poor looser that she
is.
(Jeremy) Rich: I'm sorry I totally lost what you said
earlier
(QuarkBurger) If Planet X is on a 3657 year orbit, and it's going to
be here in may, it HAS to be 232 million miles away now
(Endeavour3d) peace
and love guys, I'm out
(Silk) Yep, been lying to everyone about the Aurora
for decades
(Inkpen) Nancy: a few have asked this befor w/ no reply...but i
was just woundering if could could comment (anything!) about what rods are or
anything surrounding this subject plz
(Rich) does the passover celebrate the
coming of the red cross seen with the naked eye?
(NancyL) Alex, who is Gil
Weinstein?
(QuarkBurger) Nancy, If Planet X is on a 3657 year orbit, and it's
going to be here in May, it HAS to be 232 million miles away now
(Obany)
NancyL: Alex says that Gil Weinstein says that the pole shift won't occur in
2003
(NancyL) Quark, only by human math, which is WRONG, about just about
everything to some degree.
(MichaeLCunningham) The Zeta don't do orbital
mechanics QuarkBurger
(Alex2222) he's translating zetatalk to
Hebrew
(Silk) Yep Zetas don't use a null in their comptations
(DonMB)
QuarkB: only if it is in a known solar pattern
(NancyL) Ink, Rods are NOT
alive, aliens, etc. That's all the Zetas want to say as the speculation about
them is silly.
(Inkpen) ok
(Inkpen) thank you
(Rich) don't jump to
conclusion Alex
(Alex2222) he calim to being contacted by the
zetas
(QuarkBurger) Nancy, do you have an astronomer or physics person I can
talk to on this?
(MikeO) I can stop preparing now . . . Gil Weinstein says it
won't happen!
(MrYou) oh my.
(BrianC) Nancy: Can the Zetas openly talk
about whatever they like? We don't always have to ask the questions do
we?
(Silk) No comment on those GIF's Steve?
(SteveH) The last comments IMO
had for the Dec 4 images was that there was indeed a new "stellar" object on the
images. Strangely, he has been silent since then...
(NancyL) Well, then Gil
Weinstein is WRONG. 1. does he predict? 2. is he accurate? NO? Then why do we
care what Gil says?
(JWilliam) Ho hum, Silk your mental thrusts are done with
a dull blade. Your capacity to think is overwhelmed by your attempts to fit in
with your crowd.
(Torbj) this is a
non-http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/summary/gif/021212/seit_00171_fd_20021212_1900.gif
burred pic of the sun... look at eight o´clock...
(Silk) No he did not say it
was a "stellar" object
(QuarkBurger) Nancy?
(QuarkBurger) do you have an
astronomer or physics person I can talk to on this?
(MichaeLCunningham) IMO
said you failed to understand his comments SteveH
(NancyL) Quark, no, but
they all sputter and claim ZT is wrong, while they themselves are being proved
wrong big time.
(Silk) J William, Your insults are
amusing
(InsideRevolution) What about Kryon predicts?
(SteveH) I guess for
IMO to confirm that there has been new objects on the subsequent images would be
out of line for the debunking moto
(InsideRevolution) I found a book today at
store
(Silk) http://m1.aol.com/deepspacegirl/dec27.html
(Silk) See there
Steve
(QuarkBurger) Nancy, Orbital Mechanics is pretty reliable so far.
(NancyL) SteveH, he's afraid that the readership will figure out WHO he is,
and deliver their anger upon him for his disinfo.
(JWilliam) Where is the
wayward shepherd? some of his sheep have wandered in here ;o)
(Silk)
http://m1.aol.com/deepspacegirl/dec14.html
(QuarkBurger) gotta go
(Silk)
or there
(Parlous2112) Nancy, will the zetas comment on the spinning
conductive discs relative to the spinning magnets ? why does only the spinning
disc's relative motion to space seem to matter to induce a voltage on the disc,
but not the magnet ?
(NancyL) Deliberately mislead them!
(Torbj) this is a
blurred pic of the sun...look at 8
o´clock...http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/summary/gif/021227/seit_00171_fd_20021227_1900.gif
(Obany)
MC and silk leave this discussion out of the channel
please
(InsideRevolution) is here anybody know something about
Kryon?
(Monk) Nancy: Is there anything the zetas would like to tell us before
you leave ?
(NancyL) And was SO proud saying he convinced many to just not
look THERE, at observatories.
(NancyL) So, how many little children has he
killed, by misleading their parents?
(BrianC) Nancy: Yes, can the Zetas talk
freely?
(Silk) Only you told people not to look this past summer
Nancy
(NancyL) I KNEW he was not being up front about who he is, where he
lived, because of this.
(Alex2222) Nancy - do u have new coordinates acording
to them the poleshift damage will be "light" in 40%??
(Alex2222)
lighter
(NancyL) Silk, however, is going to give you her address. She's SO
sure she is RIGHT.
(SteveH) and MC can only through insults and is becoming
increasingly shrill, purposely trying to mislead
(NancyL) Monk, yes, it is
overtime for me to leave, and I'm saying bye bye.
(Silk) yeah right, trying
to intimidate me Nancy?
(Obany) SteveH: i agree, throwing insults
(NancyL) Thank you all for inspiring great ZetaTalk.
(JWilliam) and
verbose ;o)
(Silk) really STO
(MichaeLCunningham) Obany, please inform
SteveH to leave this out of this conversation
(MikeO) Silk, where DO you
live?
(NancyL) Thanks to the cops for keeping good order!
(Obany) who
started it
(Silk) Why Mike O?
(NancyL) See you next week, and we'll do
2003 Predictions!!!
(MrYou) sketchy stuff.
(Silk) what's that going to
prove?
Session Close: Sat Dec 28 17:18:18 2002