Session Start: Sat Feb 16 15:39:33 2002
(S7L) Nancy, I took a look at the
pictures. Any chance we'd get the uncompressed for those?
(NancyL) Hi folks.
In case anyone didn't hear the news, Veronique came through again with a French
observatorys.
(Spanky) Link?
(IQx) Nancy: like S7L stated, can we get the
uncompressed (original) images ?
(NancyL) Haute-Provence imaged, in infrared,
at the Jan 17th coordinates.
(NancyL) The object MOVED, from Jan 5th, is
therefore not a nova, and not a comet as they are not infrared.
(NancyL) It's
Nibiru.
(Clipper) And our man is very upset over it indeed. This I
noticed.
(S7L) We think it's quite promising and we'd love to have pictures
that would be higher quality
(Jos) Nancy, is it the bright thing or the less
bright thing
(NancyL) Therefore, as Veronique will be here this evening
(perhaps a bit late), and as I have a fist in my gut over this, this is the
topic of discussion tonight.
(IQx) Yes Nancy, the original images, with
whatever highest quality you got, if you don't mind =)
(IQx) Oh great, she
will be here =)
(NancyL) Agenda: What does this mean to YOU, your neighbors,
etc.
(Zetapal) Next year it'll be in my front yard!
(S7L) Nancy: okay,
that sounds most appropriate!
(NancyL) What was the first thing that came to
mind, hearing this second imaging. Haute-Provence put their name to
it!
(Jurian) Next year, I'll *HAVE* a front yard :p
(IQx) Yup sounds most
appropriate =)
(NancyL) No more anonymous.
(IQx) S7L got it
exactly
(NancyL) Wait till Steve Havas hear's this!
(IQx) Lol
(Spanky)
Where is the link for this image?
(S7L) Spanky: rogue planet section in
tt
(Jos) Nancy, there are two green circles, which one is PX ?
(NancyL)
S7L Veronique may provide that. I put them up as they came, so as not to be
accused of touching them.
(IQx) Its ether one or the other
(Jos) (Or is
it somewhere else)
(IQx) Oh
(Jurian) Wtf are you talking about
IQx?
(Clipper) I expect a lot of negative traffic on this one. It hit closer
to home this time.
(S7L) Nancy: okays.
(IQx) Nancy: you were provided with
low quality images ?
(NancyL) Took me awhile to orient the new to the Jan
5th, the inverse and rotate thing.
(S7L) Yes, I could see it was not
completely trivial. Those sky pictures are rather weird-looking unless one is
accustomed to it.
(Laligntraiz) Sure, she didn't touched the images
!
(IQx) Oh
(NancyL) Jos, the thing that appears closest to the older spot,
the first circle to the right, per the Z's
(IQx) Well, when Veronique will
come, we'll ask her
(S7L) Nancy: why are there TWO new objects?
(Jos)
Thanks
(S7L) As in there was something new also in another location, where it
was spotted in Jan 5?
(S7L) Is some background object coming
brighter?
(Jos) That is great news!
(NancyL) IQX I put up what I got from
Veronique
(IQx) Nancy: ok =)
(Jos) Cool, a picture above the noise limit
then
(MikeAus) Hi Nancy,all :)
(IQx) Mi Mike
(IQx) =D
(Akeybear)
Hiya mike
(NancyL) Spanky http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm and take
the links for Jan 19th.
(Jos) Ok, we have a game :)
(JJ_Starbuck) JJ here
with a new name, for those who care.
(S7L) We just really need the original
photos to have "experts", whoever they are, to take it any way
seriously.
(NancyL) Clipper, I'm emotional tonight. I want to throw the floor
open to .. what will the MEAN kind of discussion.
(NancyL) S7L the astronomer
pointed out the two objects that were NOT on the ESO Digital Sky
Survey.
(NancyL) The Z's said the top or right (depending) circle is
it.
(Laligntraiz) Perhaps, Vero can send them to Nancy, it's
possible.
(NancyL) S7L the spot identified on Jan 5th has an existing star
there, BUT on Jan 5th there were TWO objects there.
(IQx) Laligntraiz: I
think Nancy said that veronique is going to be here tonight, we'll have to ask
for the originals from her =)
(Jos) The circle with the bright thing in it
then
(NancyL) One was the existing, dimmer than on the PSS as all dim objects
were due to only 20 min vs 45 min exposure.
(S7L) Yes Nancy. But the spot has
grown brighter to be identified as new on the Jan 19 pic.
(Clipper) Nancy:
are you asking what will it mean?
(S7L) Maybe that's only due to differing
filters in place.
(NancyL) The second blob is LARGER, just under the little
existing one, and is LARGER on the 20 min than on the 45 min or rather is NOT on
the 45 min at all.
(Jos) Nancy, technically imho we just have a first contact
now ().
(MikeAus) Can you make out a cross shape S7L?
(S7L) MikeAus:
eh?
(NancyL) I diagramed showing this is a NEW object at
http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/absent.htm
(S7L) A cross shape?
Where?
(MikeAus) In the photo
(MikeAus) Dimmer red object
(S7L) Nancy:
I have looked at those. I meant - that in Jan 19 photos we have two new objects,
one at the jan 5 location. So because X no longer is there, I am wondering if
this is some background object that has increased ...
(S7L)
Brightness
(MikeAus) Don't worry I prolly got the wrong one.
(NancyL) S7L
well, this is the first time an image came from an Observatory with their
SIGNATURE!!!! OHP.
(IQx) Hehe
(Jos) That sure is interesting, especially
when they stick to it...
(S7L) I think it is there. I really would like to
have third photo. I would hope this gets people more excited, once we get past
the "this picture is a fraud" phase
(NancyL) S7L is will not get brighter
between Jan 5 and Jan 19. Jan 5 it could only be seen by contrast. Jan 19 it
shows UP.
(Jos) Great to have a first contact even in Februari
already!
(MikeAus) Good idea IQx ;)
(NancyL) I think HP did a true 45
minute infrared. GOD!
(Jos) This is very good for tracking it's unusual orbit
potentially...
(IQx) Ok, guys and girls (and Zetas) - I have to do some
stuff, so I think I cant stay here for the Session, but surely, Ill read the
local and the later posted logs =)
(Jos) So discounting it as a KBO becomes
more difficult
(IQx) I'll see you later.
(NancyL) Clipper, I need to talk
out my emotions. I want to ask folks what their first FEELINGS are on hearing
this, as it 1. is not a nova 2, is not a comet, 3. is moving. 4. is
REAL!!!!!!!!
(IQx) Personal, Thanks Nancy
(IQx) Cya all
(Clipper)
Okay
(NancyL) Jos, a beginnning.
(Jos) Nance, seeing the evidence, I
already didn't doubt it's existance really.
(Jurian) If they observatory
indeed put their name under the pics, they might decide to track the objects,
getting more pics out..
(S7L) Nancy: I'm personally a bit doubtful yet, but I
think this picture is very promising, but it's not yet of the gut-wrenching
certainty which would prove it to everyone... but that can't be far
away!
(MikeAus) Me also S7L
(DigiDali) Same here
S7L
(Jurian) More pictures, from the same observatory might get others to
look as well, and cause them to make picutures as well :-)
(S7L) We just need
more pictures, a few more, and it begins to be beyond any reasonable
doubt!
(Jurian) When that happens, things will probably speed up
:)
(NancyL) Jurian, now it comes down to more O's taking images and talking
about "what is it?" not the dead zone as before.
(Jurian) Exactly
:-)
(Akeybear) I haven't doubted the Zetas at all....most of what they have
said coincides with how I have felt about things earlier.
(Jos) Technically,
this is just a first picture, it hasn't moved as far as i am concerned
()
(Clipper) My first fealings were that the list is getting ready to get
real busy. Personally, I have always had a 99% belief that the 12th was
real.
(NancyL) On Jan 5th, there was a 1/2 infrared, under exposed. On Jan
19th a full 45 minute exposure.
(IQx) Hmm
(S7L) Akeybear: me too, but I'm
personally not completely convinced until there are the pictures. But it is
still exciting!
(Jurian) Clipper: heh, I think we need to be ready for MUCH
more traffic on the lists
(IQx) Hehe
(Akeybear) That it is, S7L, that it
is!!
(S7L) And this is increasing as quality of conclusive, first-hand
evidence.
(Jos) Heh, even Jan 19th, real good.
(NancyL) Now, it MOVED. On
Jan 5th, doing the contrast thing, you could see a LARGE blob there on the Jan
5th not on the PSS. That was plain. Even Open Mined on sci.astro did not
disagree.
(Jurian) And I'm not sure yahoogroups won't shut the lists down
:/
(IQx) We'll see as time goes - more images (hopefully) will be
brought
(IQx) Then there will be no discussion, that this is in fact
real
(Gerard) I think so too, we are in for a thing now.. a change and a big
one
(Gerard) Be ready I think
(Jos) And it might be on the raw
openminded image as well on the 5th if he releases it
(NancyL) Clipper, put
on your leather boots and get that riding crop out! BLAM, you're banned,
etc.
(S7L) Nancy: but I have the question why the Jan 5 spot STILL shows
increased brightness compared to the DSS shot
(Talkboy) Perhaps it is best to
force the "government"'s hand as early has possible. If it exists, make them use
the cover stories by getting more observatories to take notice
(S7L) As the
Planet X is no longer ther
(Akeybear) Just hope that the pictures aren't
compromised - "fixed" in other words...
(Clipper) Absolutly nancy. Already
practiced that one.
(Jos) This is especially good because it happens /before/
the economic crash btw
(NancyL) Jurian, if yahoogroups poops out, we'll have
to find a server that will host the discussions :-)
(S7L) Maybe it just
happens to be infrared source itself and the first shot was an exceptionally
poor on date, as it happened to coincide!
(NancyL) Like, um, perhaps
TT?
(JJ_Starbuck) Will someone answer S7L's question
(S7L) We are thinking
yahoo might die indeed
(Jurian) Nancy: not with the current bandwidth, bad
idea.
(Gerard) Guess troubled times/zetatalk has to be ready now ... right
more people etc etc..
(S7L) It could be good idea to try capture the
discussion on the yahoo groups so far in order to preserve it for
later.
(IQx) Yeah
(NancyL) S7L I'm not sure what was done on Jan 19th, how
much exposure.
(Jurian) We'll need to seriously look at either getting much
more bandwidth, or colocating the servers (or at least one of them)
(IQx)
Saving the text to a local data would be good
(S7L) Nancy: maybe the another
background star at Jan5 coordinates itself simply is IR source
(IQx) And
later, if anyone can set up machines to help out TT and ZT
discussion.
(Jurian) Nancy: but I'll bring that up tomorrow during the
nonprofit meeting :)
(NancyL) Talkboy, you won't force the govmt. Their
response is something I'd like to play with tonight.
(S7L) We can setup a
chatboard out of nothing pretty quickly. Jurian could code it in PHP, or I could
write it in Perl, or adapt existing one, if there is no real working one
usable
(IQx) Hehe Nancy
(S7L) Working one = free one
(NancyL) I take it
they will have to just ignore it, or put out some disinfo line like the one
about CO2 causing slowing rotation, that most of the public will buy.
(IQx)
Yup
(NancyL) Akeybear, not these, not from Veronique.
(Jurian) S7L: we can
use phorum, its free and fast. problem is finding a good, stable host that wont
kick us off :)
(S7L) The CO2 slowing down stuff was about milliseconds
though.
(IQx) Or our favorite one, the sun causing the rotation to slow
down
(S7L) Very SLIGHT slowdown. Nothing like one second even.
(Jurian)
While still being affordable :)
(Steve) Legalize it
(S7L) So I don't
understand why they posted it at all.
(Zetapal) Nancy, I never believed
Zetatalk because of any pictures but because the info as a whole went off inside
of me - It just felt right thru and thru.So I expec the physical data will just
come along to confirm. Similarly, I don't feel others will believe it based on
photos. And even when its visible in the sky next year, most will believe what
Tom Brokaw tells them to.
(Talkboy) Nancy : make them exhaust their "short
list" of cover stories. Leave them with nothing in their hand by the time
smaller telescopes can view it.
(Gerard) But even the millsecond thing is
kinda .. :/
(S7L) Jurian ok
(S7L) Talkboy: I basically agree.
(S7L)
Gerard: I guess everyone can say "oh I know what this slowdown is about, the CO2
emissions"
(NancyL) Jurian, like OUR servers?
(MikeAus) CO2 causing a
slowdown? No way...cover story
(IQx) Hey
(Jurian) Nancy: Yep, but again,
need to colocate them at a hosting provider
(IQx) They would put a lot of
tech garbage with full words to confuse the crowd
(S7L) While the original
article talks about milliseconds of slowdown, much less than we observe
(IQx)
They have their means.
(DigiDali) Hey
(NancyL) S7L they have great distain
for the average guy, and his/her IQ level.
(Clipper) That CO2 thing made me
laugh.
(Akeybear) I agree with Zetapal
(Jurian) Nancy: like UUnet or
rackspace or exodus or abovenet or whatever :-)
(S7L) Quite so, I think,
Nancy.
(MikeAus) Me too Clipper
(Akeybear) Hi karen
(IQx) I think Nancy
is making fun of my IQ (x = none existant)
(IQx) Kidding =)
(Jos) I think
the best way to deal with it is to wait for another picture that is believable
that shows movement, this is how it always works for new objects that are
planets.
(MikeAus) Their arrogance will be their downfall
(NancyL) OK, I
think a good Q for the Zs tonight then is "what does this mean" and "how will
the goverments or coverup handle this?"
(Clipper) Yes
(MikeAus)
Yup
(IQx) Nancy: also "Is this THE REAL beginning ?"
(Jos) Kicking them
too soon is not justified, and might cast a bad shadow
(IQx) Beginning - in
terms that this will influence the masses greatly.
(SeF) Good evening
everyone!
(NancyL) IQ, I thought x meant too high to be measured, or moving
:-)
(Zetapal) I'm not being synical, the whole thing of our mass
consciousness, or lack of it, saddens me a great deal always.
(NancyL) IQ, a
variable.
(IQx) Nancy: =) hehe, I was trying to cheer up the room
(Jos)
Otoh, some minor kicking should hurt hehe :)
(Gerard) What will the influence
be for Troubled Times, ZetaTalk, what to expect ?
(S7L) I think this is a
complex beginning, as opposed to real or integer...
(NancyL) For those just
coming on, we have been discussing the Jan 19 images of PX provided by Veronique
from Haute-Provence observatory.
(IQx) You know... I see a lot, repeating A
LOT, of discussion on this in near future
(Jos) Shouldn't hurt,
sorry
(NancyL) These show 1. PX moving (not a nova), 2. PX infrared (not a
comet).
(Akeybear) Well, the planet wil have some definite effects on the
planet, and the govmt can't hide that fact.
(NancyL) The spot is also in
accordance with the RA and Dec give by the Z's for those dates.
(S7L)
Akeybear: we already see most of the effects
(SeF) Whats the url to the
pics?
(IQx) Govt can't hide it, yes, but they will try to give an explanation
to calm down the crowd.
(Jos) Nancy, you noticed Mars has global warming?
(S7L) SeF: http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/haute003.htm
(SeF)
Thanks!
(Linus_BC) What about that big storm convergence on Jupiter as
well?
(NancyL) We have, for the past 20 minutes, been throwing about what
this will MEAN, any change, and what the governents will do, etc.
(S7L) The
first is reference shot.
(IQx) Oh
(NancyL) So this will be the first
question posed to the Z's tonight.
(IQx) ok, great =)
(NancyL) Going to
give it to the Z's now ..
(Zetapal) They will parade out Richard Hoagland to
give some hyperdimensional physics gobledygook explanation...and hearing little
else, people will ponder and that's it, perhaps some will catch on.
(Red) I
must run for a bit... sounds like a time for us all to think about our level of
commitment and where we go from here...
(IQx) Gerard: I also added an onjoin
notification about that, if you don't mind
(Talkboy) Govt. has to eventually
follow a certain path of deception, once this happens they will be "locked in"
and eventually their story will hit a dead end if Planet X
exists
(JJ_Starbuck) Isn't Hoagland a good guy?
(IQx) Jim:
true
(NancyL) ZT: The establishment has much discussed this moment, when
there will be SERIOUS attention given to the object, moving, in the
skies.
(S7L) Hyperdimensional physics is big bullshit, from what I have
seen
(Gerard) IQ: some could find that annoying.
(IQx) Gerard: didn't get
any complaints yet, only 'thx' and of such =)
(NancyL) ZT: A year ago, at the
turn of the millennium, it was thought that NASA and their buddy system would
call it a nova.
(Gerard) IQ: k
(NancyL) ZT: However, with the attention
given to the Zeta coordinates, they understood that motion in this object would
be under too much scrutiny.
(IQx) Nancy: well, they won't call it a Nova
anymore =) its moving
(Jurian) Its uh.. a moving nova :p
(IQx)
Lol
(Clipper) Lets give the Z's the floor ...
(IQx) A nova influenced by
particles in the atmosphere and changes in earth's rotation due to CO2 that
causes it to appear that its moving
(NancyL) ZT: The explosive attention
given to ZetaTalk, in spite of attempts to completely discredit Nancy or take
her down in some manner by association with scam artists such as Hazelwood, were
expected to succeed.
(IQx) And of course the Greenhouse effect
(IQx)
=P
(NancyL) ZT: Hazelwood was a new game plan, and had all the halmarks of
success, well funded and backed by more personnel than the public could even
imagine.
(NancyL) ZT: By distancing herself from Hazelwood, Nancy cut that
plan in shreds. She did not ALLOW the money connection to attach to
her.
(Spiff_Rym) Question: What do the Zetas think about the book (Sitchen)
The lost book of Enki and the relationship with hall of record?
(Homy)
Hello
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, he went limping into the Art Bell show, and is
fearful now of being sued for money by the promises he has made to
many.
(Gerard) See topic, not during the answer ... please
(NancyL) ZT:
He cannot save them, and now that many are cautious about the funds they give to
him, can be traced and tracked down, and sued.
(NancyL) ZT: So ZetaTalk
survived, this last concerted effort to eliminate the threat that Nancy
represented.
(NancyL) ZT: Meanwhile, her reknown increased, on the Internet,
every government's bane.
(NancyL) ZT: Imagine that for every person reading
her site there is at least a half dozen alerted.
(NancyL) ZT: Imagine that
for each of these half dozen most, electronically, post word about on the
Internet to other mailing lists or posting boards.
(NancyL) ZT: Imagine that
for every person getting wind of what is really about to occur, there is
discussion at dinner tables or coffee shops or bars.
(NancyL) ZT: Imagine
that each of THESE takes the message further, bringing it up when the subject
warrants.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, it is exploding, which at least the US
government is aware of.
(NancyL) ZT: Nancy has not allowed herself to be
dragged down, or compromised her message when asked, as on Earth Changes TV
recently where ZetaTalk refused to buy into the Sun Mega-Cycle
matter.
(NancyL) ZT: She is deemed to have integrity, not someone they can
kill (though thousands of attempts have been made) or compromised.
(NancyL)
ZT: Thus, they must adapt to her, at this date.
(NancyL) ZT: Where
explanations that the common man might buy will be floated out, such as the
recent pronouncement about CO2 causing slowing rotation, the establishment knows
that the educated man won't buy into this.
(NancyL) ZT: Even the little guy,
perhaps without wealth but with a brain, can sort though what he observes and
hears.
(NancyL) ZT: The governments in the know about what is coming, or
those suspecting based on rumor in the highest circles, have only a few
options.
(NancyL) ZT: They could come clean, admit a coverup, and then run
and hide to save themselves.
(NancyL) ZT: This is unlikely to happen, until
perhaps the last week, as these individuals ENJOY power and priviledge, and are
loathe to give it up.
(NancyL) ZT: They could employ strong arm tactics,
invoke martial law, and refuse and eliminate any questions about earth
changes.
(NancyL) ZT: This requires a military and citizenry well in
agreement with these means, which does not exist in either the US, Canada, or
Europe.
(NancyL) ZT: Even China found the Internet rebutting their lines, re
Tianaman Square.
(NancyL) ZT: The uproar, even after 911, over loss of
individual rights, showed the US that their citizenry were not in
agreement.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, they have evolved a third tactic, which it to
ALLOW discussion, but ignore it.
(NancyL) ZT: In other words, no
comment.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Spud) Surely introducing Hazelwood
caused MORE people to be alerted
(MikeAus) Spiff: see
Zetatalk.com
(NancyL) Spud, yes, but if he had succeeded, they would get
WRONG info and ZT would be discredited.
(IQx) No questions, thanks
Nancy
(Clipper) He will now become the FALL GUY
(Spud) k
(Gerard) What
to expect in the coming, weeks or months .. TT/ZT etc?
(NancyL) Clipper, I
think he took $$ from folks, promising a safe place, and now they actually WANT
one :-)
(NancyL) Ooops.
(MikeAus) *G*
(Talkboy) if the govt. has
"nothing to say" eventually they will become ignored - so will their
laws
(Spud) Karmic justice
(Jos) How is it possible that the France
observatory made these pictures
(Jos) I mean, politically
(PierreObs)
Sorry, I missed the beginning... What do you think about my images from
OHP
(Kirk) Where can I see these pictures pls?
(NancyL) Gerard ZT:
ZetaTalk has always taken the tack that the bad news should be offset by
what-to-do.
(Steve) Has this a effect on the awakening process. (more
sightings)
(S7L) Pierreobs, you took the pictures?
(PierreObs)
Yes
(NancyL) ZT: In other words, the public will close their ears if there is
NOTHING they can do, as an individual.
(Linus_BC) Is there any estimate on
what the increase will be in apparent magnitude of PX over the next
year?
(S7L) They are remarkable! We were wondering can we have the
uncompressed ones, what Nancy put on website were gifs.
(NancyL) ZT: But to
the extent that an individual can see a route, a means of saving themselves and
helping those in their heart, they will NOT go into denial.
(S7L) I guess
people also want to hear exactly how they were taken, with what equipment,
etc.
(S7L) And full names and such, if that is possible.
(NancyL) ZT:
Troubled Times, under the influence of Nancy who would have it no other way, has
followed suit, and is FILLED with common man achievable solutions.
(NancyL)
ZT: It is unique, in this regard, on the Internet and elsewhere.
(PierreObs)
I can give you the ".fits" (but they are bigs!)
(IQx) PierreObs: please do,
thanks =)
(S7L) Pierre, please, let's join to #Troubled_Times for this
discussion while Nancy does zetatalk
(S7L) Or is this okay for
Nancy?
(IQx) PierreObs please join #Troubled_Times and discuss it there,
thanks
(NancyL) ZT: Outdoor survival assumes a shot period of time, post Cold
War sites dealing with nuclear threat assume the ability to stock up and then
RETURN to normal life.
(NancyL) ZT: TT is the only site that discusses a post
catastrophy situation, long term, world wide, in a practical manner.
(NancyL)
ZT: It does not take names, refusing to do so, encouraging the little guy to
join with friends and those known to him.
(NancyL) ZT: It has the FEEL to it
of an answer, and thus those who read it heed.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, for TT and
ZT in the months ahead, there will be more publicity.
(NancyL) ZT: This may
require more mirror sites, more publication of the nonprofit booklet, and more
interviews by Nancy.
(NancyL) ZT: All of this is in place, and can be readily
done, so should not cause consternation in the group or distress.
(NancyL)
ZT: It is doable.
(NancyL) End ZT to Gerard.
(S7L) Nancy, about Pierre.
Can we talk here about the pictures?
(SeF) Thats great!
(S7L) Is good
time, now?
(Karen) Nancy can you post when these interviews will
be
(NancyL) Pierre! YOUR images! Great! There are lots of Q's from the group
re this, especially can they get the RAW so professionals like Kahuna can
examine them, etc.
(Gerard) I think we can expect this increase very soon I
think
(Karen) Is there an area that is updated on what's going on besides
Whats New
(NancyL) We should be starting a database of these images, Kahuna
etc holding a copy.
(NancyL) I think he is keeping down a lot of disinfo with
his threatening to examine carefully any postings.
(S7L) Pierre joined
#Troubled_Times as Pierre-O
(NancyL) Thus, we should provide him with the
BEST we have.
(S7L) Maybe connection troubles?
(NancyL) Is this
possible?
(Spanky) How can one get others to listen to the Zetatalk message?
What do the Zetas say?
(PierreObs) In fact I'm a student, and I took theses
images at the "OHP"
(NancyL) Karen, there is a What's New for TT and one for
ZT, different.
(NancyL) Karen, tt-news also, to some degree.
(Karen) ok I
look there just making sure there wasn't one I was missing
(Karen)
Thankyou
(NancyL) PierreObs, was this a 45 minutes CCD or what, exposure
time?
(PierreObs) Is it Nibiru in my images or not ?
(Veronique) Hi all
:-)
(NancyL) YES!!!
(IQx) =)
(Laligntraiz) Salut
(NancyL) In the
circle closest to the other imaging on Jan 5th.
(IQx) Yup, it
is
(MikeAus) Pierre can you post a url pls? (pics)
(IQx) Laligntraiz:
salut, ca va
(PierreObs) No, it from 5 images: 2mn, 5mn et 3 times
7mn
(NancyL) See http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
(Laligntraiz)
:o)
(Veronique) Salut Lionel ;-)
(NancyL) Take the link Moving
Object.
(IQx) Oh
(MikeAus) Tx Nancy
(IQx) Veronique is
here.
(NancyL) Veronique! Pierre is here.
(IQx) Veronique: bonjour =)
(Gerard) Hello Veronique
(Veronique) Happy to be there too
:-)
(Karen) Is this an open forum night?
(NancyL) It took me awhile to
deal with the invert and rotate thing, but then I saw where the new green
circles were.
(IQx) Veronique: Nous avons aimes vos images, merci
beacoup.
(NancyL) The Dec has dropped, as expected, and the RA scarsely
moved, as expected.
(Veronique) Ok, I know, Nancy, had a hard time
too!
(IQx) Veronique: Je ne parles pas francais tres bien, pardon
(NancyL)
Pierre, these were infrared, yes?
(NancyL) This means that they were LESS
exposed than the Jan 5th, which was a 20 minutes exposure.
(Homy) Is this
object coming closer?
(NancyL) This explains why it is dimmer than the Jan
5th, which was a question on this IRC earlier.
(Veronique) So Nancy, I just
read my e-mail, you say there are two objects on your photo, almost at the same
location?
(S7L) Nancy, the exposure time necessary depends on the sensitivity
of the equipment also.
(NancyL) Homy, will pass in late Spring 2003. Right
now, out 9 Sun-Pluto distances, or so.
(Homy) Tnxs
(NancyL) Veronique, on
Jan 5th, if you check all the contrast and brightness and etc links from the
TEAM page, you will see there are TWO objects at that loc on Jan 5th.
(S7L)
But yes, these pictures are still better to work with.
(Homy) Will we be able
to see it with the naked eye at that date?
(NancyL) Open Minded, on
sci.astro, stated and posted magnified images showing this, the location, etc.
(S7L) Homy: yes, but about 2 months before passage, or so
(NancyL) But in
the 20 minute CCD he took, ALL dim objects were dimmer than the comparison 45
minute Palomar Sky Survey.
(S7L) It's a general figure. I believe the exact
was like 7 weeks?
(S7L) This of course fudges depending on viewer and
location
(NancyL) ZT: Now, in the Jan 5th one, the blob was larger and
brighter than in the Palomar.
(Homy) This planet is huge
(IQx) Homy:
About the size of Earth in comparison to the Moon
(NancyL) The Z's had me
check closely, as they said there were TWO objects there, and indeed one can see
the existing/old one just above the NEW one.
(Veronique) Nancy, I might have
missed that, did the Zeta comment?
(IQx) Homy: but much more in weight, as it
is composed of different substance
(Karen) It is HUGE I saw it in a
dream
(Homy) Interesting
(Veronique) Oups, ok..
(NancyL) Now, for the
TEAM, I drew geometrics (someone else's idea, actually) showing the placement of
the NEW is different than the placement of the old.
(NancyL) This is at
http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/absent.htm
(Homy) I still find the idea
strange
(NancyL) IQX on passage, looks like the Moon, but is 4 times the
diameter of Earth and much more massive. One big magnet.
(Homy) That holland
is going to be under water
(Breeze) Is there no Q and A session
today?
(IQx) NancyL: I see, thanks
(Homy) Are you refering to Nibiru
Nancy?
(NancyL) Veronique, nor in print but the first green circle, the one
closest to the prior image on Jan 5th, is IT!
(Gerard) Not realy Breeze, see
topic...
(IQx) Breeze: read the topic =) we are discussing the new images
obtained on Nibiru
(NancyL) Absolutely! Big time!
(Breeze)
Righty
(Homy) Are the Anunaki there now?
(NancyL) Moving, this is not a
comet (they don't do infrared, I believe) not a nova (they don't move) at the
Z's coordinates, moving according to the Z's coordinates (change as
expected).
(SeF) Will we see like a real image of Nibiru anytime in the
future?
(NancyL) GOD! I'm so emotional about this.
(IQx) Homy: Of course,
but they 'isolated.
(Veronique) Well, our friend who took the pics will be
happy for the contribution :-))
(IQx) Yup, we are all thankful
(IQx) And
to Veronique for bringing it up
(SeF) Very grateful!
(NancyL) Homy,
Holland is already under water. They just pump it out.
(Jos) You finally got
what you worked for :-)
(Homy) So they use gold in the Nibiru atmosphere to
hold the sun light?
(Homy) Lol
(Jos) Correct, I'm living at -1.5 meter
:)
(S7L) SeF: Jpåefiööu veru sppm.
(Breeze) So looks like it's really
gonna happen then huh
(S7L) Oh. SEf: Hopefully very soon.
(Gerard) Homy:
there is some truth in that ... look at Limburg for example etc..
(NancyL)
I'm happy, Pierre and Veronique, to have the info on the exposure time.
Sci.astro debates ongoing ...
(PierreObs) (Comment je fais un chat
prive?)
(Gerard) Below see level :/
(NancyL) So, besides Gerard's Q about
what this will mean for TT and ZT, what OTHER impact does this have?
(NancyL)
Q's about impact, etc?
(IQx) PierreObs: if using mIRC : type /query or /dcc
chat
(Jos) Impact on the panic level of people.
(IQx) PierreObs: to send
a PRIVATE message, usually type /msg or /privmsg (first one should
work)
(Jos) Will they start going crazy or be constructive.
(NancyL) Jos
ZT: The public at large is already uneasy.
(PierreObs) (Peut pas il me faut
la commande)
(Homy) I think that NASA is paranoid
(NancyL) ZT: They are
considering what they see about them, these past few years.
(Talkboy) Will
all public accessable observatories begin to "shutdown"?
(Gerard) About
people preparing, taking more of zetatalk serious, influence on the
awakening?
(NancyL) ZT: The weather absolutely cannot be explained, and the
weatherman is ignoring this, which in and of itself is a cause for uneasyness in
the common man.
(IQx) PierreObs: try /msg IQx test - that will send a "test"
message to me.
(Homy) I see uneasyness with alot of people these
day's.
(NancyL) ZT: Crops go awry, businesses go belly-up, bankrupcies
increasing, and powerful companies like Enron try rip-off games that CANNOT
succeed in the long run.
(Clipper) Our weather man now states a 20 degree
difference in his forcast. He has no idea what the temp will be the next
day.
(IQx) PierreObs: if you are using another client, then you must find out
how to Private Message on your own, Im sorry.
(PierreObs) Thank
you
(NancyL) ZT: The degree of arrogance in the powerful US administration is
stunning, so much so that few talk about this openly, yet they feel
this.
(NancyL) ZT: In Europe, the weather and behavior in the US is openly
discussed, but no solutions or confronting is done by their
governments.
(Homy) They have build a wall around them
(IQx) No
PierreObs
(NancyL) ZT: As we mentioned earlier tonight, the establishment is
at a LOSS as to what to say to their public.
(NancyL) ZT: They feel they
cannot admit, as this WILL cause panic, and they cannot deny, as there will be
angry questions.
(NancyL) ZT: They can, however, ignore, a favored tactic in
any case for those in politics and corporate managemnet.
(Homy) People will
know sooner or later.
(SeF) Can the zetas predict waht the gov'ts next excuse
will be?
(NancyL) ZT: Stall, have no comment, refuse to engage, refuse to
answer the question, pretent the issue is not before them, etc.
(Spud) How
will the uk gov handle this? The same way?
(SeF) Specifically that
is.
(Linus_BC) Here in BC, on the west coast of Canada... the new government
is cutting programs and public funding like there was no tomorrow, with no
apparent concern for public opinion on it, and no reasonable explanations as to
why.
(S7L) SEF: they are telling they don't have an excuse!
(IQx) Hold
your questions AFTER the 'End ZT Follow Up ?' please !
(Linus_BC)
Sorry
(NancyL) ZT: At the same time, due to the unease of those who MUST meet
the public, and demands for some official explanation, there will be a need for
a exit route.
(Clipper) Alaska has a 2 billion dollar deficite. Money went
some where, no one knows. The only talk is how to make it up, not "where did it
go?"
(NancyL) ZT: If they want to reduce the demands on government, on
themselves personally, they will turn the anxiety elsewhere.
(NancyL) ZT:
They will turn it onto ZT and TT, specifically.
(NancyL) ZT: This will start
slowly, at first increasing requests for interviews and information.
(NancyL)
ZT: The great leaders will be off in their high offices, allowing the stoic
souls in TT and Nancy to meet the anxiety of the public.
(NancyL) ZT: This is
anticipated to allow the common man to address his situation by either 1.
planning and preparing, or 2. resigning himself to a sudden death.
(Homy)
:(
(NancyL) ZT: Both are messages the governments wish to give the public,
but cannot without explaining why THEY are continueing to save THEMSELVES at the
public's expense.
(NancyL) End ZT on this.
(IQx) Ok
(Spud) How will the
uk gov handle this? the same way?
(IQx) Ask your questions people =P
(Jos)
Are ZT/TT likely to be facing an agressive public smear campaign on mainstream
media
(Homy) Yeah
(Jos) I guess not then.
(Svnmn) Are there any other
new developments that the Zetans are noticing here on earth?
(Clipper) Good
question Jos
(NancyL) Spud ZT: In Europe, there is likely to be more open
discussion of the matter, as in the UK the Planet X issue re-emerged
recently.
(NancyL) ZT: Britain is also resentfull of the US, and the European
Community resentful of both.
(SeF) How many govt officials are involved in
all these planning?
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, each country is likely to respond individually,
depending on the public and administrators.
(JoeyB) Why do they not just
announce it as a brown dwarf, minus the fear factor?
(Linus_BC) Are all world
governments in the know about upcoming events... or is it only a select
few?
(NancyL) ZT: Where the country might fare well, there may be open forums
on plans as to what to do, in case.
(HBO2) Do the zetas expect George W to
initiate WW3 to make money disappearance less noticeable and to divert public
attention?
(Mary) How will they "turn it onto ZT and TT,
specifically"?
(NancyL) ZT: In countries where there will be devastation,
such as in India, NO discussion will occur.
(Mary) How will they "turn it
onto ZT and TT, specifically?"
(Spud) That seems right
(NancyL) ZT: In
countries where there is already suppression of news and discussion, such as
Saudi Arabia, there will be continued suppression.
(Mary) Sorry for the
double ):
(NancyL) ZT: In Scandinavia, which will fare well, there may be
open government plans to assist their populace when the time
comes.
(Linus_BC) I can believe that... even internet access is closely
controlled in KSA
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, as with people, each government or
country might take a unique tack, an unexpected tack, and our predictions wrong
or right, depending.
(Gerard) Netherlands, had to do with the climate thing
(Tokyok etc) some time ago.. but will be flooded after the shift ... doubt that
our goverment will give some info i guess ... :/
(NancyL) ZT: These mattes
are in the hands of man, who has free choice, and not our hands.
(NancyL) End
ZT on this .
(IQx) Questions ?
(NancyL) JoeyB ZT: To confirm that the
inbound object is a Brown Dwarf, moving at the rate it is, would raise questions
as to DISTANCE.
(NancyL) ZT: This in conjunction with the closeness to our
coordinates would likewise confirm, officially, ZetaTalk.
(Linus_BC) It's
interesting the number of brown dwarfs that NASA has been reporting orbiting
OTHER stars lately
(NancyL) ZT: They would prefer to hide, and ferry the
anxious to Nancy and TT.
(NancyL) Mary, they will provide opportunities for
interviews, etc.
(Zetapal) Zetas : who was behind discontinuing the Jeff
Rense interviews and will this extradition be reversed in the
future?
(Veronique) Btw, is the other dot green circled an object yet to be
discovered?
(NancyL) For instance, I got an offer for a web cast from
Rainbow, Harlem, can't remember it all but you can believe the people of color
in Harlem will be asking questions.
(NancyL) Hazelwood suggested to these
folks that they contact me. He does not know what to say, the ass.
(Mary)
Your exposure and tt's too is is a GOOD thing!
(NancyL) So, now I will be
saying to them, you're in NYC, you're not the elite the Bush Administration
wants in their chambers, and Colin Powell won't be able to help you
much.
(PierreObs) Well, I will leave soon because I'm not at home, and it is
late...
(NancyL) They are city folk, not used to grubbing for food
(literally) as in grubs under logs, and probably with few rural connections
other than the south which will be under water.
(NancyL) So it will be a
challenge for me, but I expect only the beginning.
(Xavier) Thanks again,
Pierre
(Gerard) Heard him once, Hazlewood that is ... and he was kinda ...
talking fast etc
(Veronique) Thank you Pierre, nice to meet you :-)
(S7L)
Good night Pierre! And it was really good having these pictures, I
believe.
(NancyL) Zetapal: I was told by Rense in essence that he was
harrassed by Anna Hayes and that Nibiruian person, Jalaia.
(IQx) Thank you
PierreObs =)
(Laligntraiz) Good job ;o)
(MikeAus) Tx Pierre
(NancyL)
They kept insisting on coming on his show and denouncing ZT. He decided to stop
it ALL, no folks talking to aliens allowed until PROOF.
(NancyL) So I wrote
him when the sightings occured last spring, but he didn't respond.
(MikeAus)
Is Hayes CIA?
(PierreObs) Peut-etre a Dimanche soir pour les
francais!
(NancyL) His production manager told David S, on e-mail that
"jealous rivals" of ZT cause this to happen.
(PierreObs) Bye
(Veronique)
Salut Pierre, ok ;-)
(SeF) Is hayes disinfo?
(NancyL) I'm not sure, but he
responded to Jeremy's e-mail recently. Rense is a good guy, integrity, so we'll
see.
(Zetapal) Send him the photos ? shall we?
(Zetapal) Thx
(MikeAus)
Good idea
(S7L) Well, those photos will start circulating, we
hope...
(Gerard) But you think you will be back on or so... or maybe the
www.rense.com site will pay attention to it? Perhaps?
(Xavier) Rense is good,
Art Bell on the other hand is PT Barnum...
(NancyL) He had attacks himself,
was even kicked out of Santa Barabara, his home town, as they stopped
broadcasting him there!
(NancyL) But the situation may change!
(NancyL)
The powers that be may decide they NEED him, and ZT on his show,
etc.
(Gerard) Hope in Europe there will be be more attention to this, in
newspapers, magazines etc
(NancyL) Zetapal, indeed, calling his attention to
all this would not hurt. The TEAM linking page
http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm has it all!
(Veronique) Gerard, I
think you're dreaming :-)
(IQx) Nancy: I listened to your appearings on Rense
few days ago =) Pleased to hear that you have such a kind voice (no kissing up,
just stating).
(SeF) I think Asia is lagging when it comes to this
info.
(Jos) Q: Will ZT go ever "mainstream" in a non negative
way?
(Gerard) Veronique: maybe ?
(Gerard) But things can
change
(DigiDali) Anyone from Louisiana here?
(NancyL) Xavier, Art Bell is
a showman, not so much truth as pizazz. However, I also think he gets leaned on
HEAVY.
(Jos) Well, that would also be country-wise then...
(Jos) Hmm, not
much to ask :)
(Zetapal) Could we ask the zetas if Anna Hayes interviws were
a direct disinfo strategy?
(NancyL) IQX, yes, I've been told I have a good
presence, good voice, etc. Thankfully :-)
(JoeyB) DigiDali: Now in
Wisconsin.
(NancyL) SEF, well, I've heard from India, Tailand, Indonesia, New
Guniea, Japan, China, etc.
(NancyL) They probably have their own visionaries,
or prophets, etc.
(NancyL) Well folks, I'm going to go make supper, been an
hour.
(Svnmn) Thanks Nancy! Exciting times!
(Karen) Thankyou everyone for
zetatalk
(Spud) Top session
(NancyL) BIG thanks to Veronique and Pierre!
The HEROES of the hour!!!!!
(SeF) Thank you for the wonderful hour Nancy and
the Zetas
(NancyL) Bye bye!
(Veronique) Thx Nnacy :-)
(Steve) Thanxs
for this chaotic session
(Gerard) So I guess we should make this URL more
known to folks etc... about the pictures.
Session Close: Sat Feb 16 17:07:46
2002