Session Start: Sat Jan 26 15:41:48 2002
(NancyL) OK, the hour is upon us.
I will post the Q's and the Z's will respond. Please hold your followup
questions until I say End ZT as else I have to dig back for them.
(NancyL)
COMMUNICATION
(NancyL) 1. Whose idea the IRC sessions were and why are they
held weekly and not twice a week for instance?
(NancyL) ZT: With all of
ZetaTalk we jointly decide matters.
(NancyL) ZT: Nancy suffers from various
health problems, is not a young person, works extraordinarily hard, and is
carrying a hugh workload.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, we must consider her
needs.
(NancyL) ZT: As a team, we were also looking for a time when the world
as a whole could participate.
(NancyL) ZT: Nancy posted suggestions, and this
time was not objected to much, so is currently the time.
(NancyL) ZT: It is
possible to have more, other times, but for now this seems to be
sufficing.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(NancyL) Going to Q2
(S7L)
Personal. Can we assist Nancy in some useful way?
(NancyL) 2. How many Zetas
appear in these communications? Can you make a distinction between them as being
different personalities, having different "voices"? Do they consider these
sessions as "big events" (we surely do) or but as usual chatting? Do they need
to prepare for these or have real-time access to assistance if needed? Do the
Zetas read all the peoples mind on the IRC-session?
(NancyL) ZT to S7L: Nancy
finds that most "help" in fact interferes, as she multi-tasks and is highly
organized.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the best help would be to try to lift some of
the tasks she does, let her delegate.
(NancyL) ZT: Brent has offered to
collect content, but lately Nancy finds she can't even get to web wrapping
much.
(NancyL) ZT: The Awakening took a burden away, a different approach,
and such thinking, allowing TT to sit as a finished product, would help Nancy in
future.
(NancyL) ZT: Also, we encourage creative thinking among you
all.
(NancyL) End ZT to S7L, onto Q2
(NancyL) ZT: As with all of ZetaTalk,
teams are assembled based on the expected questions.
(NancyL) ZT: We indeed
know who will be attending, who plans to ask what, and sense new questions
arising before they are voiced.
(NancyL) ZT: In that we are highly telepathic
and can assemble a team in an instant, this is not problem to change the
participant mixture.
(NancyL) ZT: Are we physically present? No, we stay at
our tasks, perhaps taking a break in part to participate.
(NancyL) ZT:
Telepathic brain waves go long distances, are highly tuned as to frequency, and
we are all particiapating as though picking up a phone!
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, we
are ahead of you, at all times.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(JaM) How would
future earth changes affect sessions like this? Would the zetas warn of upcoming
disasters in time to prepare?
(Jan) Are the Zetans just as specialized as the
humans, or do they have much broader competencies in general?
(Brian) I think
that's funny
(Longint) Nancy, I asked if YOU can differ their voice.
(Jos)
Yeah, what are those "tasks" for instance
(Spanky) What about on the IRC
sessions, how much do the zetas track those?
(Jos) What is "this" guy/girl
doing right now :-))
(NancyL) ZT to Jan: We have a broader range of
specialities than humans imagine, as we come from many different worlds, and
have lived more lifetimes, in a more technological society.
(Zetapal) Parlor
trick Jos
(JaM) What I meant was more specific occurrences.
(NancyL) ZT to
JaM: We are not allowed to warn of Earth changes other than the broad message of
the coming shift, for instance, in response to the Call.
(NancyL) ZT: to
alert that there is a likely quake due in this or that part of the world is
considered interference, parenting, and not allowed.
(Jan) But is each Zetan
only having one single speciality as humans, or are they/you broader in areas
covered?
(NancyL) ZT: to step in and attempt a warning would send us packing!
So, we hold our breath and say nothing.
(JaM) I understand.
(NancyL) Long,
I sense different groups, interests, yes, but they don't have a voice per se.
Just thoughts that pop into my head.
(NancyL) Some are very poetic, as when
they were describing for sci.astro, re plate crunching during the
shift.
(Longint) Ok.
(NancyL) They said, "for those plates already
subducting, the script has been written".
(NancyL) I thought that
poetic.
(NancyL) Others are obviously military, very tough in their
stance.
(NancyL) And others social, others scientific, there are different
tones, yes.
(Longint) :)
(Jos) They are nice guys aren't they
:)?
(NancyL) ZT to Jan: We are multi-faceted, but as most humans have
discovered, they can contribute MORE with some specializing.
(DraganR)
Cool
(NancyL) Q3 ..
(NancyL) 3. Will the Zetas and/or others be available
for us somehow to chat with after the pole shift too?
(NancyL) ZT: This is an
issue that has come up lately, with increasing frequency.
(NancyL) ZT: Where
will Nancy be? Will she be connected via the Internet?
(NancyL) ZT: Will
ZetaTalk continue? If so, how?
(NancyL) ZT: We mentioned during a prior chat
that Nancy has been invited to live with us, in hybrid communities.
(NancyL)
ZT: Those humans invited into these communities know who they are, and have
either declined or quietly accepted.
(NancyL) ZT: This is not necessarily an
easy life, as we bustle.
(NancyL) ZT: There is not an idle moment, in spite
of fatigue, and no quarter given to weakness such as the need for a good cry or
a distration.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, as hard as Nancy works, she can expect to
work harder, experience more grief, in her old age.
(NancyL) ZT: The means of
communication is being deliberately withheld at this moment, for obvious
reasons.
(NancyL) ZT: The self centered, the power hungry, the elite
desperate to continue their grip, are trying to position for the
future.
(NancyL) ZT: Trust us to say that STO communiities will find they are
NOT out of the loop, are NOT without visitors whom they will instinctively
recognize.
(NancyL) ZT: In other words, you may have Nancy for a visitor,
bearing gifts.
(NancyL) ZT: More as the hour of the shift approaches.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Jan) The TT Radio project is currently stalled
due to a number of reasons. Will there be any assistance to get this going
again, and will Nancy be able to tap into post-PS radio (HF) communication?
(Clipper) Awsome
(Canuck) Do these communities exist already?
(NancyL)
ZT to Jan: Short wave, as we have mentioned, is THE best means of humans to
contact one another.
(Canuck) Hybrid communities I mean.
(Linus) I am due
to finish my term in the military this summer, so I am curious as to what role
the military will play in the aftertime for the elite. I have felt better and
better lately for my decision to leave the military... Though I wasn't exactly
sure why.
(NancyL) ZT: For those communities that will setup with this means,
inability to link due to a hilltop missing an antenna will NOT be a
problem.
(NancyL) ZT: They will find this network intact! Angels at
work.
(Longint) Canuck: they are living on Mars currently
(NancyL) ZT to
Linus: The military is a life style chosen by those who like structure and feel
the need to strong support in their personal life.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the
military cut adrift, as they will be, prior to the shift, will find this highly
distressing.
(Jan) Great!
(Brian) Are the humans that have been invited
to hybrid communities aware of it?
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, there are many in the
military who will find themselves attracked to the job offers they will
get.
(NancyL) ZT: This will be posed to them as supporting the government,
such that civilization can continue.
(NancyL) ZT: They will find, however,
that they are supporting an elite class cruel to the populace.
(NancyL) ZT:
Those among the military who are power mad themselves, will turn this around
UPON the elite, in time.
(NancyL) ZT: Those horrified at what has occurred
will desert.
(NancyL) Next Q
(NancyL) VOLCANIC ASH
(NancyL) 1. Will all
the volcanic ash in the atmosphere adversely affect the world temperature to a
lower range for a time (even in areas near the equator), as in the formally much
talked about "nuclear winter"?
(NancyL) ZT: The nuclear winter must discussed
during the Cold War in fact does not occur during ash times.
(NancyL) ZT: Has
this occured in the past? Mankind surmises this, with the extinction of the
dinosaur attributed to heavy ash.
(NancyL) ZT: This is all speculation, and
as we have stated, the dinosaur died because of a virus, not a meteor
strike.
(NancyL) ZT: Sunlight warms even if it cannot make it throught he
clouds. It warms the CLOUDS, the air, etc.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, especially
since the core is warming the Earth today with its increased swirling, you can
expect that the core will continue to make the globe WARMER, after the
shift.
(NancyL) ZT: In addition, the atmosphere will be torn away, so the
clouds will be lower and the atmosphere LESS of a block to the warmth of the
sunlight than today.
(NancyL) ZT: All reasons for the globe to stay warm,
which it will.
(NancyL) ZT: You can anticipate the same degree of warmth, per
latitude, that you experience today.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Spanky)
With less atmosphere will there be more radiation poisoning, sunburn,
etc?
(Jos) How long after the shift appr. will lead be dangerous in the
rain-water from Vulc. ash ?
(Linus) So if the dinisaurs were wiped out due to
a virus and not a meteor strike, is the whole Yucatan meteor story a
subterfuge?
(Jan) The dinosaur virus, was that a natural occurance or was it
a planted virus and a planned extinction?
(Superzod) Will the HEAVY magnetic
(from the comet) field affect HUMAN behaviour. Will vortex cards
help.
(Zetapal) JJ - go to Troubled Times - Safe Places
(Clipper) Jan read
my mind:-)
(NancyL) ZT to Spanky: Sunburn and radiation are suppressed by the
ash cloud, the one advantage.
(JJ) I started there, but other than the salt
flats suggestion it wasn't that helpfull...unless I missed
something.
(NancyL) ZT to Jos: Depending upon where one is, downwind from
volcanoes, the ash will poison the water and soil.
(NancyL) ZT: This tends to
be the immediate effect after a VIOLENT burping, not a lingering
effect.
(Jos) Ok, thanks !
(NancyL) ZT: However, since violent burping
will occur big time during the shift, ALL ash afterwards will carry
poisons.
(Brian) How do the Zetas recomend we purify water?
(NancyL) ZT:
Thus, until the rains wash this away, some months at best, drinking water should
be distilled.
(NancyL) ZT: Ground water may carry these poisons for a longer
time, depending upon how close to the surface this is, the flow patters,
etc.
(NancyL) ZT to Jan: Dinosaurs were related, and when a virus mutated,
this affected them ALL.
(NancyL) Brian, distill it.
(NancyL) 2. How well
will local edible plants grow in British Columbia (and other temperate, fertile
areas) in the years following the shift (ie. will there be enough growth to
support the survival of small groups)?
(NancyL) ZT: Vegetation is most
affected by the lack of light, and secondarily by being drown.
(NancyL) ZT:
The lush rain forests your beautiful Earth supports give voice to the tenacity
of vegetation to survive.
(JJ) Is Kalispell in montana a bad place to
relocated to with the changes coming about?
(NancyL) ZT: Many seeds sprout
only when conditions are right, so decades later emerge.
(NancyL) ZT: Those
looking to crops will find this is NOT the way to go, in the immedate
aftertime.
(NancyL) ZT: As we repeatedly mention, fishing is a good source of
protein, as are bugs, and plants should be the minimal part of your
diet.
(NancyL) ZT: Humans are used to just the opposite. So this is a mind
set adjustment.
(NancyL) ZT: A bit of salad, something with high Vitamin C,
but use this almost as a garnish!
(NancyL) End ZT: Followup?
(Spanky)
Aren't the fish going to be poisoned from the ash too?
(HBO2) Will most
animals as a food source be eliminated by PS and after flooding, lack of food,
etc?
(NancyL) ZT to Spanky: Water dillutes, where ground water
stagnates.
(Brian) Won't the lead get into the plants if they are grown
outside? Should we be concerned about this?
(NancyL) ZT: Fish likewise have
an ability to EXCLUDE lead, though do absorb other heavy metals such as
Mercury.
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, water retains warmth, and algae grows in
abundance in places land based plants cannot tolerate.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus,
this resource should be explored, and explored THOROUGHLY, prior to the shift,
as a real survival technique.
(NancyL) ZT to HBO2: Wildlife struggles, as the
extinction of the Mammoth shows.
(NancyL) ZT: Wildlife is used to a struggle,
and migrates almost constantly after the shift, so survives in
general.
(Spanky) What allowed some reptiles to survive the dinosaur
extinction?
(NancyL) ZT: Domesticated animals survive because of the
determination of their owners, who remain attached to the hope that their prior
life will return.
(Longint) Spanky: they were not effected by this
virus.
(NancyL) ZT: Relying on wildlife, hunting, will prove disappointing as
wildlife will soon diminish to the point of no results.
(NancyL) ZT: Hunters
will at first eat well, then starve.
(NancyL) Spanky ZT: Dinosaur survived to
become the current reptiles because, as with any infection, there are SOME who
have resistance.
(Bouzouki) Excuse me I have some retard...
(Bouzouki)
Hello NancyL
(NancyL) ZT: All became sickly, and the smaller ones needed less
to eat than the larger, and thus prevailed.
(NancyL) Next Q ...
(NancyL)
CHARIOT OF THE GODS
(NancyL) 1. What can Zetas say about Erik Von Däniken?
(NancyL) ZT: The book, Chariot of the Gods by Van Daniken, was considered
radical when first published, but its success is due to the simplicity of the
explanation it offered.
(NancyL) ZT: Offering a web that encompassed cave man
drawings, landing strips high in the Andes, and the current experiences of man
out in space, was a hit.
(NancyL) ZT: Few could find fault with the logic,
which was in fact based on truth, and this has held through
criticsm.
(NancyL) ZT: By giving a rational argument to the concept of
visitors, Van Daniken is to be applauded.
(NancyL) End ZT
Followup?
(Linus) Does the biblical story of Elijah have a connection to
visitors?
(DavidS) Could Zetas say anything more about Nazca-lines - why did
they make spiderstrips and other animalstrips and when etc on Nazca?
(DavidS)
It is one of the Daniken-areas
(Spanky) Linus: I think you meant
Ezekiel
(Linus) No...he saw the wheels..
(Linus) Elijah was taken
up
(Nzguy) 18!
(NancyL) ZT to Linus: Prior to Roswell, visitors were not
required to record their visits only in the subconscious of humans.
(NancyL)
ZT: As the book, the Vedas, reports, humans saw their visitors as having all
manner of shapes.
(NancyL) ZT: In trying to relay their experiences, humans
often stumbled and struggled.
(JaM) How come the pyramids at Giza, Angkor Wat
(Malaysia) and Central America lineup along the same latitude when the zetas say
that landmasses can separate during pole shifts?
(NancyL) ZT: Many described
them as odd animals, but beyond the physical appearance of their visitors, how
to describe the phenomena that accompanied them?
(NancyL) ZT: Levitation,
space ships suddently appearing or zooming away, lasers, the ability to disarm
humans without touching them, etc.
(Brian) Are there any people on earth with
Nibarian blood lines and if so who?
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, fire, wind, whatever
might relay this experience, became the verbal story.
(NancyL) ZT: This often
confused those who came later, and could not ask for clarification of the story
teller.
(NancyL) ZT: To futher cloud the issue are the giant hominoids from
the 12th Planet, who lived among mankind until a few millenia ago.
(NancyL)
ZT: They live in the Bible, as the giant Goliath, for instance, and are REAL
visitors in hominoids form.
(NancyL) ZT: They are the Gods of Mt Olympus, the
Visigoth in Germany, and giants reported elsewhere.
(Superzod) Guillvers
Travel ????
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, visitors in many shapes and forms are mixed in
with myth, and current mankind is left to sort it out.
(Linus) Thank
you
(NancyL) ZT: In the main, take your myths and stories in this context,
and see what the picture paints!
(NancyL) ZT: Most folklore is NOT story
telling, but a serious attempt to pass on important information.
(NancyL) End
ZT.
(JaM) 12th planet hominoids have long heads? Drastically different from
our structure?
(Boris) Did Giordano Bruno entered in contact with STO
ETs?
(DavidS) Brian: I guess, Arnold Schwarzenegger is one of the humans who
have Niburian blood lines:-)
(NancyL) JaM, longer faces, yes.
(Brian)
Where does human DNA come from, or who designed it?
(NancyL) Boris, who the
heck is this G Bruno, some background for Nancy please?
(Bouzouki) Why the
zone 51 have a landing way longer that 9 km?
(NancyL) DavidS, I've though
that myself. But Tyson, biting off ears and the like, has more their
temper.
(NancyL) Brian, read the Hybrid section, we are quite a
mix!
(Jane) He was a 16th century philosopher.
(Jane) Burned at the stake
for heresy.
(NancyL) Bouz, are you talking about Area 51?
(DavidS) Could
Zetas talk more about Nazca/landingstripes on Andes - when it was created and
why did they create animal-stripes as well?
(Jane) Spoke and wrote about a
universe filled with intelligent beings
(Boris) Nancy, Jane answered for
me.
(Bouzouki) Yes, excuse I'm Belgian.
(JaM) I think he stipulated about
the sun being center of cosmos and not earth.
(NancyL) Jan, re this
philospher, yes, per the Z's he was STO influenced.
(NancyL) Jane, just the
type they burned at the stake, yes. Lovely Catholic Church!
(NancyL) Next Q
on the agenda ...
(NancyL) AFTER DEATH
(NancyL) 1. What are the stages the
spirit experiences after the death of the body?
(NancyL) ZT: The spirit is
aware of the death of its current incarnation before the body lets
go.
(Boris) G. Bruno spoke that there were thousands of thousands wordls in
the universe and so he was burned.
(NancyL) ZT: This is why the Near Death
Experience reports the spirit seeing the death, close at hand, in the body, from
a distance.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, many spirits do not recall the moment of
death, as they vacate!
(Svnmn) I read that Bruno was also argumentative and
impolite...
(Bouzouki) In www.zetatalk.com, you say that zetas give
technologies to people who ask them. But them, how have them that learn? With
who?
(NancyL) ZT: The spirit is often mulling the past life over prior to
this moment, and planning the next incarnation.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, there is a
normal progression to discussion with the Sprit Guides, who are in teamship with
the Birthing Guides, and the next incarnation is often arranged
quickly.
(NancyL) ZT: As we have mentioned this is not the choice of the
young spirit, but of the guides.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, it's a bit like getting
of a train at the station, and walking over to our next train!
(NancyL) ZT:
Just like that, on your way again!
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Linus) I've
read in Zetatalk about the dissolution of souls which have not accrued
sufficient mass as first time incarnations, so what one thing is most crucial to
ensure continuation, and how does one discern if they are a new soul or an old
soul?
(JaM) Can a spirit refuse to immediately reincarnate and lull for a
while?
(Jane) Cayce spoke of an average of a hundred year periods in between
incarnations. This isn't accurate?
(NancyL) Linus, struggle, I take it. A
soft life is not the way, per prior discussions. Read the logs.
(Brian) Can
the spirit go back in time to incarnate?
(SteveH) Does the spirit have access
to view it's past lives at will after it's current incarnation has
ended?
(DV_DA) So there is no end or final death for a spirit even if it
wants a total and complete inexistence it will never happen?
(Linus)
k
(Jan) In Theosophy, Rudolf Steiner said that the time between incarnations
could be 100 - 1.000 years (IIRC). How come this misunderstanding?
(NancyL)
JaM ZT: If the spirit is lingering, it is often allowed to do so, else it avoids
the current incarnation and is distracted.
(NancyL) ZT to SteveH: Spirits are
AWARE of their past lives, though the human incarnated is clueless,
often.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, for the spirit, there is no change in this matter
after death.
(HBO2) Time as a spirit is not linear as it is to us; thus 100
or 1000 does not mean much.
(NancyL) Brian, no, not time travel for us
youngsters.
(JaM) So in what plane does a spirit go if it does not
reincarnate yet?
(NancyL) ZT to DV-DA: As we have stated, the spirit, once
sparked, does not die, and pain must be dealt with as a resolution on future
lives.
(DV_DA) So suicide is rather pointless. Hah. Thanks for the
info.
(NancyL) ZT to Jan: Where the Theosophists were valid channeled works,
they were expressing in human terms that the spirit lives LONGER than the human
body. This was for emphasis.
(NancyL) 2. Can the spirit communicate to
everyone in the afterlife?
(NancyL) 3. Can the spirit learn then, from others
and/or from itself by thinking, or everything is just inconstancy?
(Jan)
Nancy, 1,000 - 6,000 incarnations have been called young souls, 1 million old.
What is the average number of incarnations of re-incarnated souls on Earth? What
is considered a really old soul? How old are the Zetans?
(NancyL) ZT: The
spirit between incarnations is like an OoB experience, in that it can commicate
more readily, and thus the Guides have no problem getting them to
gather.
(Bouzouki) Can the spirit communicate to everyone in the
afterlife?
(NancyL) ZT: They are talking up a storm, especially if coming
from a recent disaster or shared experience.
(NancyL) ZT: Once reincarnated,
the young spirits are intent on learning experiences, pressing agendas forward,
and the like.
(NancyL) ZT: Incarnations are MORE than discussion groups, they
are action oriented!
(NancyL) End ZT
(NancyL) Folks, I'm poopped and it's
been the hour.
(Svnmn) Thanks Nancy!
(NancyL) My neck is in a knot from
typing fast :-)
(NancyL) The dog wants his supper.
(JaM) Thanks for a
great chat Nancy and zetans!
(NancyL) Blame the dog :-)
(Jos) Thanks for
the effort Nance.
(Linus) Have a good night Nancy.
(Jane) Many thanks
Nancy and Zetas
(S7L) Thanks Nancy. It was most interesting
again.
(Gerard) Thanks for the good session Nancy and the Zetas
(NancyL)
Thank you all for inspiring great ZetaTalk!
(HBO2) Nancy, you need to get a
voice activated keyboard!
(Jan) Thanks for a great chat!
(DavidS) Thanx -
and you should get a massage on your shoulders...
(Svnmn) I fed my dog while
you were typing like mad!
(NancyL) Thanks also to our faithful moderators and
technicians, Jurian and Gerard, without whom this would not be
possible!
(Brian) Where does it all end? Is there an end to the spirit
school? Do they become God?
Session Close: Sat Jan 26 17:07:05
2002