Session Start: Sat May 18 17:02:46 2002
(Ultima) How are the zetan
bugs
(NancyL) Hi, the Agenda for today is ...
(NancyL) ANCIENT
MAP
(NancyL) 1. What do you think of the stone slabs with relief on them
which are supposed to be 120 million years old?
(Samsara2003) Just on
time...
(Ultima) Are they tricking u again.
(Andeomon) What instructions
have they inserted in you this week :)
(NancyL) SPEED OF PX
(NancyL) 1.
How fast will Px travel during nearest earth flyby? Travel is a good Q and
should be added to next weeks agenda. SPEED, and when and how fast, etc. The
distance chart developed by TT members is not all right, as it is poky at times,
faster at others, etc.
(Ultima) No i know ur beeing abuse arnt
u
(Andeomon) Oh damn she's must have a pentium 7 in there :D
(Torbj) We
are all "dragged" here.... it feels good, and we long for it... it´s within our
"vibes"....
(Guest1) When is planet x coming
(Gerard) Ultima: please not
now, the session is about to start and you know that ...
(Ultima) They tell
u every thing is all right and they love u, then they tell u to F*** off when
they have done what they want
(Ultima) Death to zeta
(Okidok) In due time
Guest1
(Samsara2003) Guest: RTFM...May 2003 :)
(Andeomon) Zeta are
dead
(Ultima) They have screwed around with my life
(NancyL)
SATELLITES
(NancyL) 1. Here is a news article on satellites and solar winds,
if you could explain what the zetas think of it that.
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/15890/story.htm
(Ultima)
So I will stop urs from beeing that way.
(Gerard) Okay Ultima: BEHAVE the
same with Andemeion
(Ultima) Love is the key, Nancy, do u have
love?
(Andeomon) Give me some more useless information so I think its useful
and forget about reality :)
(Wage) Punt him
(Andeomon) More more
more
(Gerard) Okay folks NOT now
(Andeomon) Oh its not started yet...
(Ultima) Poor guys, open your eyes from the big zeta ones see the big
picture
(Ultima) There in the dark
(Andeomon) Reality of the matter is
there is no love within some people who rant in here
(Ultima) Not the
light
(Andeomon) or some women
(Ultima) Lord Ashtar can
explain
(NancyL) QUICK CLIMATE CHG
(NancyL) 1.Rotation stops in summer,
long evening heating everything up, than PS, than a cold winter night, and
winter afterwards? Or is it a gradual cooling over a few days? What should
survivors take into account in this case?
(Torbj) Why are you
here?
(Gerard) This is no #ashtar
(Torbj) Ultima, Andeomon
(NancyL) I
posted to sci.astro this morning re the Distance/Speed issue. I will post the
new ZT here when the time comes.
(Andeomon) Torbj, only we know ;) and Nancy
knows ...
(Zetapal) Gerard - blast these chumps if they don't shutup this
week - just a request
(Ultima) Rotaion well nancy i think u are decicivly
wrond if you look at the earth if it were to stop then people would begin to
float.
(Gerard) You folks are being anoying ... and disruptive .. please
don't do that
(Ultima) Poor zetapal. Weak
(Okidok) Why can`t the alien
groups cooperate
(Ultima) Weak zeta
(NancyL) As we are (maybe) expecting
some sci.astro followup questions, there will be strict rules during that time
re interruptions.
(Wage) Omg, kick this fool
(Ultima) Why
wagew
(Andeomon) Lol wage
(Ultima) I speek only truthg
(Andeomon) You
just prooved us right :)
(Gerard) Ultima: you are anyoing
(Ultima) Love is
the kindest thing
(Andeomon) Truth is anoying
(Ultima) And i know u all
know that. And the zeta ARE NOT KIND
(NancyL) In general, there was a feeling
that these chats are being TOO disrupted by repeated postings of someone's
agenda (as in ANSWER MY QUESTION when it has already been answered,
etc.)
(Ultima) Nancy, run away from the zeta
(RobH) This is pretty amusing
actually - until the session starts
(Matt) Agreed
(Gerard) Andemeon, if
you disbehave you will be banned for an HOUR
(NancyL) So, I've asked Gerard
to be more firm, re this. Instead of repeatedly warning, and not silencing, we
will give ONE warning, and then shut the disrupting poster up.
(Andeomon) Lol
Nancy cant live outside her reality and lies
(S7L) Ultima, Andeomon; your
input may be appreciated but not now. We might run your discussion on
#troubled_times, but let's give Nancy the stage here, okay?
(Matt) Hmmm
heavy
(NancyL) This is so we can respond to those who have come to discuss,
not disrupt.
(Karen) I second that
(Ultima) Wake up freinds nancy is gone,
she is evil aspect she is zeta, i know u all know that stop lying to ur self for
u all know what a lie is dont u join the light, the pledies
(Andeomon) Who is
nancy talking to?
(NancyL) You, Andeomaon, for one.
(Andeomon) Negative is
a more prescise word then evil. :) hi nancy :) lol
(Zetapal) They want their
own show but can't get the ratings
(Torbj) Wow.....
(Andeomon)
777
(Cybervvizz) Andeomon, take a break,
(Ultima) So u wish to attack
andeomon because u are weak how sad nancy
(LeRenard) Oh, so, the cult leader
is more strtict now
(DraganR) Gerard please kill them
(Ultima) Wekll poor
zeta
(Samsara2003) Just IGNORE Andeomon..
(Ultima) So
weak
(Samsara2003) It's an option on MIRC
(Andeomon) Im just singing ...
nothing much
(Ultima) So un biological, so un emotional, so un phycoligcail
for they need the weak
(Samsara2003) :)
(NancyL) I think we can start with
Le-R, Andeomon, and Ultima NOW, before I begin.
(Cybervvizz) It was even an
early christian law to respect each other regardless of his opinion, so please
be quiet
(Andeomon) You guys keep proving me right
(Ultima) O ur that weak
as to kick us
(Andeomon) There we go :) thanks Nancy
(Ultima) For it is
the truth
(LeRenard) Lol
(NancyL) Gerard, let me know when they've been
killed.
(Andeomon) Love will win
(Ultima) Weak zeta
(Karen) You
disrespect our right to be here
(Andeomon) Love will save the
world....
(Ultima) Love wins over hate
(Matt) Oh man your
kidding?
(Wage) Trolls
(Andeomon) lmao
(Zetapal) Bye guys... peace and
love...
(Ultima) The hate aspect must b cleaned
(LeRenard) Sure cult
leader, your lies will be unmasked, as your time is coming to an end, 2003 is
not as far as you think it is
(Cybervvizz) Respect of your sister and brother
is love either
(Andeomon) Cya zetapal
(NancyL) Is Gerard here?
(Ultima)
Respect for all
(Grudda) I'm really on floor laughing
(Zetapal)
Lol
(Ultima) And zeta as well
(DraganR) Kill them please
(Samsara2003)
Haha
(Matt) Oh how nice.
(DraganR) Thnks
(Lebrasse) Phew ! thats
better
(NancyL) OK, starting with Q1.
(NancyL) ANCIENT MAP
(NancyL) 1.
What do you think of the stone slabs with relief on them which are supposed to
be 120 million years old?
(Ultima) Poor nancy. annot win a spi fight so she
boots. poor u
(NancyL) ZT: Reputedly an ancient map of the Ural Mountains
were discovered, estimated age to be 120 millions years.
(Okidok) Ultima
behave please
(Grudda) I recently ignored ultima.
(NancyL) ZT: In that the
Ural Mountains are on a solid old plate, always remaining above sea level, it is
probable and likely that their shape would be the same over the eons, for
Earth.
(NancyL) ZT: Is this a true map, and who would have drawn
this?
(NancyL) ZT: It is indeed real, although the age is not quite as
estimated but more recent.
(NancyL) ZT: The map makers were NOT homo sapiens,
or even hominoid.
(NancyL) ZT: As we have stated, homo sapiens is not the
FIRST intelligent creature on Earth to be capable of forming souls.
(NancyL)
ZT: Prior to the dieoff of the dinosaurs, there was another race, reptillian,
that had been engineered to this level.
(NancyL) ZT: It was the handiwork of
these creatures that was discovered.
(NancyL) End ZT followup?
(DraganR)
Interesting
(BrianC) How old are they and who made them?
(Samsara2003)
Have there been 4th density entities on Earth prior to modern 3rd density
civilization?
(RobH) Then they had technology to make these very large
maps?
(Torbj) What is this map showing... what was it used for?
(BrianC)
Or just how old are they really?
(Mmt) Were they created in time or by
traveing back in time?
(Grudda) Is there a link to a picture of this
map?
(NancyL) ZT to BiranC: We estimate, based on when they were present,
more akin to 90 million years ago.
(Karen) What happened to the
reptilians?
(NancyL) ZT to Samsara: These reptilians had NOT progressed to
4th Density level, spiritually or physically, but were peers of man.
(Karen)
Or rather where is there race today?
(Okidok) So the Reptilain is the origin
habitants on this earth?
(BrianC) Thanks :-)
(Gerard) Karen: that was
explained some time ago
(Guest1) Are they related to the Bandernburg
group?
(sirgrim) What do the tablets say?
(Morko)
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/04/30/28149.html pravda=truth ;)
(NancyL)
ZT to RobH: Indeed, what you might term their hands were dextrous, as are
lizards on your Earth today.
(Okidok) According to David Icke they still are
here
(NancyL) Guest1, who is the Bandenrbug group?
(Grudda)
Thanks
(Karen) I thought it was a "new" group sorry
(Guest1) Elite group
of power brokers - ask Oki
(Wage) Think he means Bilderberge..
(Guest1)
Thats it
(NancyL) OK, going to skip the Distance/Speed subject as I'll post
the new ZT and this will flood, will clean up the other Q's first.
(NancyL)
SATELLITES
(NancyL) 1. Here is a news article on satellites and solar winds,
if you could explain what the zetas think of it that.
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/15890/story.htm
(Okidok)
Bilderberger is a fragment of the New World order
(NancyL) ZT: Lately, in
early 2002, there has been noticable satellite trouble.
(NancyL) ZT: As we
mentioned over a year ago, problems with the SOHO and other satellites were due
NOT to the Sun, but to the approaching Planet X.
(NancyL) ZT: Then the
problem seemed to go away, but this was, as we mentioned some months ago, due to
the US government and others lofting additional satellites to cover such
outages.
(NancyL) ZT: They did not report this, and the public is in general
unaware of just how MANY satellites are aloft.
(TimeIsNear) False
(NancyL)
ZT: For instance, by using China and other launch sites, remote and inaccessible
to the news reporters, the public becomes unaware of how many satellites the
intelligence community has aloft.
(NancyL) ZT: So what is then causing the
new outages? Is this interference from the Sun, as reported?
(TimeIsNear) Was
or not reported?
(NancyL) ZT: We have predicted that satellite problems will
be so common by mid-2002 that phone conversations will on occasion drop, and
e-mail be delayed to the point of being returned to sender on
occasion.
(NancyL) ZT: Regardless of how many satellites are lofted, ALL will
on occasion sputter, and this will be noticeable by mid-2002.
(PottM)
Satellites build up electrical charges overtime this is a well known and well
documented happening.
(Nondisclosure) Mark those words
(NancyL) ZT: This
is caused by the same disturbances in the equilibrium of the solar system that
is causing magnetic diffusion in your Earth's core, and
(Angelis) Greetings
all
(NancyL) ZT: Heating and swirling of the core.
(Angelis) Hmm swirling,
whast that cna u explain that for us?
(Guest) Hi Brian
(Cybervvizz)
Sttt
(NancyL) ZT: Mankind does not understand or comprehend the multitude of
sub-atomic particles that exist, and flow in patterns and have balance in the
solar system.
(Angelis) Well I think we to zeta
(NancyL) ZT: Distrupted
equilibrium means so much MORE than merely gravity and magnetism.
(Angelis)
We just dont want to
(N) How many sattelites are there in
space??
(Geobyte) Cool007 Ahoi
(Guest) What concepts of mathematics do you
have?
(Cool007) Geobyte Zdrasti :)
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the STORY LINE will
be the Sun, having a Mega-Cycle, as was floated out some years ago by NASA
lackies.
(PottM) The truth is Nancy all that you say is not hard for someone
to come up with want me to demonstrate?
(Torbj) Shut UP!
(Mmt) Why can't a
regular 3600 year orbit for eons be part of the equilibrium?
(Angelis)
Correct, yes, good guys, lets attaxk
(NancyL) ZT: How did they KNOW this
would be, per their story, a Mega-Cycle? No data is proferred to the public, and
the current satellite problems will be proferred instead as PROOF.
(Angelis)
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh
(Debian) Cool007 ko staa :-)
(Cybervvizz)
Angelis with 64.49.223.141 please respect other beliefs
(Angelis) Well if
look around we find nothing i even hacked nasa and guess what nancy
(NancyL)
ZT: But go back to when the story was first floated. How did they know,
supposedly, THEN that this would be a Mega-Cycle.
(Cool007) Debian zakysnqh
mai, puk i gledam, ne6to atakuvat NancyL :)
(Angelis) Not there
(Geobyte)
Abe tia sa ibati putkite liubov kam HaHcu
(NancyL) ZT: This is how the public
can determine that this IS, indeed, a cover for the approaching Planet
X.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Debian) E to losho nqma
(Debian) Nali
liubovta shte spasi chovechestvoto
(Mmt) Why can't a regular 3600 year orbit
for eons be part of the equilibrium?
(Nondisclosure) Where does NASA state
it's a Megacycle?
(Samsara2003) Is there truth in the rumor that NASA has
more than one Hubble space telescope in orbit?
(Cool007) Xaxa, vii pyk sq
;)
(NancyL) MMT, too long a cycle to be what we understand as the
equilibrium.
(BrianC) Does this have any relationship to the shoe
dropping?
(Andeomon) NancyL , what education do you have? You work for NASA
perhaps?
(RobH) Will there also be microwave problems with cellphones and
such, soon? Or is that to happen later next year?
(NancyL) It is, in the LONG
view, part of the equilibirum, but YOU don't think of it this
way.
(Cybervvizz) Andeomon, what level of energy do YOU
have
(Nondisclosure) Current cycle is obviously on decline, how can they
state that?
(PottM) Listen all... There is no point in asking her questions
she will answer only the easy ones.
(TimeIsNear) Haha
(S7L) Nondisclosure:
if you for instance graph the energy of radio noise emitted by the Sun, for
instance, you come to the conclusion that there is a stronger than usual second
peak before activity usually falls down. I don't know if anyone working for NASA
is directly behind the word 'mega-cycle'.
(Andeomon) Infinite
(NancyL) ZT
to Samsara: There is a single Hubble, but it is more complex and cluttered with
equipment than you are told.
(Nondisclosure) Second peak was 3 months
ago
(Tizza) Guday all
(Cybervvizz) I think Your EGO is INFINITE for the
moment
(Andeomon) I agree PottM
(Nondisclosure) S7L, then how can the
Zetas claim that NASA is?
(Andeomon) Ok cyber :)
(Geobyte) I'm beginning
to think that this is a big conspiracy
(Cybervvizz) Ok :-), still loves you
;-)
(NancyL) Nondis, it is not NASA, but (can't think of his name right off)
Earth Changes TV or some such that floods this on the Internet all the
time.
(S7L) Nondisclosure: oh, I didn't say to possess that information. I
only said that I'm aware of there being substantiation of the 'mega cycle'
theory
(Torbj) What is this?
(Samsara2003) Will the Annanuki's
Civilization be visible by telescope from Earth during passage or does the
Nibiruian Atmosphere prevent this?
(NancyL) Keeps reporting new sun spots and
the like.
(Geobyte) And you're just wastin' our time while somebody makes his
plans
(Gerard) Samsara: not related ...
(Cool007) Geobyte
hmm
(Nondisclosure) Sunspots occur throughout the complete
cycle.
(Samsara2003) What additional equipment has been installed on hubble
and for what purpose?
(PottM) I mean this lady her portrays what she truly
believes which has been proven time and time again to be be false or facts
twisted. Her reality is reinforced by those who believe in it.
(Andeomon)
Nancy do you belive in power of love?
(NancyL) Ron Darby, who used to work
for CIA/DOD on satellite orbits, etc., programmed them, stated that all this
business before Year 2000 when it was reported that we'd have a Mega-Cycle was
balony.
(Okidok) Good question samsara2003
(NancyL) He stated that all the
signes from the Sun were not different than other cycles.
(Andeomon) Nancy
please ... why do you accept to be a slave and you enjoy it?
(Cybervvizz)
It's free will
(Andeomon) And you know it
(Torbj) Why are you back,
Andeomon?
(Gerard) Andemeon: hush
(Nondisclosure) He and probably 5,000
other observers, so why is the world dependant on one persons
opinion?
(NancyL) PottM are you here to chat or just insult?
(Torbj) Do
you want us to love you? I love you, Andeomon!
(NancyL) Gerard, please
PERMANENT boot Andeomon!
(PottM) I'm not insulting you at all. If I wanted
to insult you I guarentee I would be much harsher.
(BrianC) Can you let Nancy
speak?
(S7L) NancyL: Andeomon and the Ultima dude promised to behave, hence
the unbanning. They were on pretty short lease anyway.
(PottM) NancyL: You
are not equipped to deal with me.
(Zetax)
http://www.skepticalmind.com/rob_darby_incident.html
(Neil) Yes, let
Nancy/Zetans speak
(Zetax) For true info on Ron Darby
(NancyL)
Q3...
(NancyL) QUICK CLIMATE CHG
(NancyL) 1. Rotation stops in summer,
long evening heating everything up, than PS, than a cold winter night, and
winter afterwards? Or is it a gradual cooling over a few days? What should
survivors take into account in this case?
(Cybervvizz) PottM, even when
NancyL talks about Mickey Mouse is a space traveller, You should still respect
her reality and her free choice of free will, and I can deal with
YOU
(Cool007) NancyL: If you remember I create site for the planet, many
people read it. But they want hard EVIDENCES. What should I tell
them?
(NancyL) ZT: During the shift, the Earth heats up greatly due to the
friction of the crust sliding over the core and other factors.
(TimeIsNear)
That its not visible now... (as its never been)
(NancyL) ZT: This causes the
globe in general to emit heat, on all continents and in all
latitudes.
(NancyL) ZT: Those parts of the globe finding themselves in a
colder lattitude than previously, will NOT suddenly freeze, within minutes, for
instance.
(NancyL) ZT: However, the heat emitting from the ground alone will
not comfort them for long, when the air temperature drops.
(PottM) I don't
see much friction between solid and liquid.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the change in
climate will affect those moving to a warner or colder climate within HOURS, and
this should be anticipated by those wishing to survive.
(Gerard) Pottm:
please .. wait until after the answer ..
(NancyL) End ZT
Followup?
(Samsara2003) Will Volcanic ash in the air result in warming or
cooling / and do what average degrees in Fahrenheit.
(PottM) That would be
like saying your going over the water on water ski's wipe out and because of the
friction you catch on fire.
(NancyL) PottM, you don't think a crust sliding
over magma will cause heat?
(Nondisclosure) Lol
(PottM) Some but not
much.
(RobH) PottM, the boundry between the mantle and crust is NOT a nice
clean one, there are rough edges and unevenness
(RobH) Its not like the
drawing in science books
(NancyL) PottM, Indian legends report, and
Egyptian/Biblican times also, that the earth heated in places to the point of
molten rock.
(Jerry) Will this heating cause problems with the large dams
like Hoover?
(Samsara2003) Charles Hapgood refers to this layar as the MOHO
layer...see "the path of the pole"...
(RobH) EXCELLENT book!
(PottM) Well
shit Nancy legends Ok they saw a volcano.
(Zetapal) Hoover better worry about
structure
(NancyL) Samsara, the Zetas have stated that cloud cover can TRAP
heat, and will, and the Earth in general will not change either warmer or colder
due to this.
(Torbj) The ach in the sky will perhaps be a relief to the
people coming from colder areas to warmer, no direct sunlight?
(Neil)
Distance/speed?
(Cybervvizz) Mm, the game tiberian sun has such spots either
;-)
(NancyL) ZT to Jerry: Hoover and other dams will in all likelyhood
burst.
(Samsara2003) How long will the Volcanic ash be suspended in the
air?
(TimeIsNear) NancyL: whats the IRS status of your nonprofit
organization?
(PottM) NancyL: We know that clouds can trap heat.
(NancyL)
ZT: Many dams have been structured where the LACK of fault lines assured
safety.
(Jerry) Thanks
(Cool007) Geobyte, Debian leka vi ve4er, az 6te
lqgam :)
(Cool007) Btw, haresa mi teoriqta za konspiraciq, koeto su6to e
vuzmojna :)
(NancyL) ZT: But during the shift, the equivalent of Richer 9
quakes will shatter them. So much more than the WORST case envisioned by the
architects.
(NancyL) End ZT to Jerry.
(Cool007) NancyL: if you remember I
create site for the planet, many people read it. But they want hard EVIDENCES.
What should i tell them?
(PottM) NancyL: Did you know the Hoover Dam has
created Earth quakes?
(TimeIsNear) NancyL: whats the IRS status of your
nonprofit organization?
(Jerry) So people downstream will have problems for
water.
(RobH) Cool007 - wait till April, 2003
(Gerard) TimeIsNear: Uuuh
not related ..
(Geobyte) Leka
(Cool007) Yeah, thats what I told them
:)
(PottM) http://www.sandia.gov/Solution.htm
(TimeIsNear) Lol
(NancyL)
Samsara, 25 year gloom from volcanic dust, but in some places OCCASIONAL
sunlight if not in direct path of volcanoes.
(PottM) Read that right on the
page there they admit to doing underground nuclear testing.
(PottM) You don't
think that won't cause increased Earth Quakes?
(Mmt) Will it be deniable to
the public up to the last day?
(RobH) Or maybe we'll get some pictures in
August, when Orion's out again?
(Samsara2003) I'll be 52... before I see the
sky again.... Best get some outdoors this summer...
(NancyL) Time, we're
still on, this is just a normal review, scheduled for all and for years has been
scheduled for OUR nonprofit,
(Gerard) Just banned him.
(NancyL) PottM,
you're showing you're not very bright here, so I'll not worry about responding
to your Q's.
(Nondisclosure) Is the non-profit to continue after the pole
shift?
(PottM) Let me bring up another proposal since the Hoover Dam has
caused Earth Quakes and obviously is only a fraction of the mass of a city would
it not be logical to see that the very building of cities causes Earth
quakes?
(NancyL) Nondis, nothing related to paperwork or money or the like
will exist after the shift.
(PottM) Come on now Nancy. I know the truth hurts
you damn bad. Probably to the point you can't even acknowledge anymore what is
real and what is not.
(USASpike) NancyL, you stated 9 magnitude quakes, is
this a downsizing from the previous 15mag?
(RobH) Uhhhh, Ok ? SURE.
Lol
(Jean-Marie) Climate change: season cycle will be disturbed for places
going from one hemisphere to they other. Is it a factor to consider in the month
following the PS?
(NancyL) OK, Q4 then, the Distance/Speed thing. I'm going
to flood for a few minutes as I wrote this up this AM to save time, etc. Here we
go ...
(BrianC) Yeah PottM , You really have her on the ropes here.
Hehe
(NancyL) SPEED OF PX
(NancyL) 1. How fast will Px travel during
nearest earth flyby? Travel is a good Q and should be added to next weeks
agenda. SPEED, and when and how fast, etc. The distance chart developed by TT
members is not all right, as it is poky at times, faster at others,
etc.
(NancyL) ZT: Journeys are seldom unimpeded. A speeding train finds it
slows going around a turn, due to increased friction against the outer track,
and picks up speed going downhill due to gravity assist. A speeding bullet loses
speed going against the air it must pass through. Light rays passing through
water get bend between the source and the eye, this diversion slowing the rate
of passage slightly. Even in a vacuum, a moving particle is affected by gravity
or magnetic influences nearby.
(Torbj) You will have spots on the surface
that will not feel anything.
(NancyL) ZT: What does Planet X encounter during
a passage, that changes its rate of speed? Where human math, using our
statements as a guide, has attempted to pinpoint the location of Planet X during
the months preceding the shift, the distance and speed cannot be computed
steadily, as Planet X deals with MORE than the gravity pull of the Sun and the
Repulsion Force invoked as it nears the Sun, during its passage.
(PottM)
I've calculated that PX would have to travel several times faster than the
cumulative speed of all other planets combined.
(NancyL) ZT: Where the human
math attempts are a reasonable guideline, here is where it must be adjusted for
deviation.
(NancyL) ZT: Particle Flows
(NancyL) ZT: Mankind is aware, only
vaguely, of the particle flows that move in and out of the Sun. They sense what
they term the Solar Wind because of the behavior of comet tails. They sense a
magnetic press because the Earth's magnetosphere is pressed outward from the
Sun.
(PottM) This is astronomically impossible.
(NancyL) ZT: They sense
the truth in our statement that the Ecliptic is caused by the planets, held away
from the Sun by the Repulsion Force, are bobbling in a backwash of particles
moving back INTO the Sun. Why else does the Ecliptic exist? But mankind is aware
of less than 1% of the possible particle flows, and is thus unaware of what
Planet X might encounter on its journey. Not all particles emit from the poles
of a rotating planet, re-entering at the waist.
(NancyL) ZT: Were this to be
the case, the pathways for particle flows would be crowded, and some avoid each
other or seek a less crowded path. Thus, Planet X encounters particles flowing
OUTWARD as it approaches, in increasing density as it draws closer to the Sun,
and this is a slowing influence.
(NancyL) ZT: Repulsion Force
(NancyL) ZT:
We have described the Repulsion Force as being invoked late, only when two
gravity giants come close enough for their laser blasts of gravity particles to
ENCOUNTER each other, like two fire hoses of water pointed at each other,
essentially holding them apart. For the inbound Planet X, the force of gravity,
impelling an approach, increases as the flood of gravity particles RETURNING to
the Sun presses against the back side of Planet X increases.
(NancyL) ZT:
This is essentially exponential, an inverse square rate per man, as the number
of returning particles becomes rapidly more dense the closer one comes to the
Sun. But likewise the Repulsion Force increases, not due to any increase in the
firehose of outbound gravity particles from Planet X, which remains steady, but
due to the outbound bursts of gravity particles from the Sun becoming dense
enough, at distances increasingly encountered by the approaching Planet X, to
invoke a Repulsion Force of sorts, even when Planet X is afar. This is a drag on
the inbound speed, a slowing influence.
(NancyL) ZT: Crowded
Ecliptic
(NancyL) ZT: We have stated that Planet X dives below the Ecliptic,
when close to passage, to avoid the other planets in the Ecliptic. Like the wind
buffeting that cars passing large trucks on the highway encounter, the other
planets in the Ecliptic create particle flows from the SIDE, as well as
backwards, against the inbound Planet X.
(PottM) Funny thing is Planet X did
exist... Before Pluto, Neptune and Uranus were discovered.
(NancyL) ZT: This
roiling encounters other roiling, all of which causes movement to from side to
side as well as the forward motion toward the Sun, a delaying action, slowing
the speed.
(S7L) NancyL: I guess we'll have to read this from usenet because
length of your comments is too long for the IRC server buffers.
(NancyL) ZT:
Thus, when moving from the mid-point of its orbit between its two foci, the Sun
and its dark twin some 18.74 Sun-Pluto distances away, the speed of passage
is:
(Gerard) PottM: you know how it works .. please wait until after the
answer it's even in the topic
(NancyL) ZT: - at first slow as the gravity
particles pulling it toward the Sun are scarcely more than the gravity particles
pulling it toward the dark twin.
(NancyL) ZT: - exponentially faster as the
gravity particles increase at this rate the closer Planet X gets to the
Sun
(NancyL) ZT: - without impediment when afar from the solar system as
represented by the planets orbiting the Sun, alone
(NancyL) ZT: - increasing
in essence at an exponential speed when approaching this solar system complex
but the speed increase somewhat REDUCED in the 6 months before passage by the
start of the Repulsion Force influence and particle flows or other crowding and
buffeting influences,
(NancyL) ZT: - decreased dramatically at about the
orbit of Mars by the braking action of the Repulsion Force, at last strong
enough to counter the inbound plunge toward the Sun,
(NancyL) ZT: - slow to a
floating rate so that it floats past the Earth during the week of rotation
stoppage, which is the point it is also floating past the Sun, rather than zoom
past
(NancyL) ZT: - increase in speed to leave the inner solar system as the
laser blasts of gravity particles coming FROM the Sun added to the momentum PAST
the Sun already in place combine to speed it on its way.
(NancyL) End ZT on
ZetaTalk, Slowing Influences, followup:
(WooferBR) Are there a dead
twin?
(PottM) All that seems like a load of senseless
garbarge.
(Nondisclosure) So, it almost stops midway, then speeds up, then
slows down again.
(NancyL) Woofer, this is in the Pole Shift and Science
sections. Our Sun is a binary.
(WooferBR) Ok.
(Cybervvizz) Q: Is orbit of
Planet X a O form or a 8 form ?
(Samsara2003) Q: If this is the case, why is
it that we have not noticed comets moving at the speeds that Px is claimed to
move at, as there are many long-period comets mankind believes to have orbital
distances the same as px...
(NancyL) PottM can't envision friction, so he is
over his head here, no comment.
(NancyL) Nondis, I think it is really
SPEEDING when it approachs the inner solar system, just slows.
(TimeIsNear)
Samsara2003 cause its a lie
(Jerry) Any chance the earth could spin in the
opposite direction after the shift?
(Lebrasse) Nancy, later can you update us
on the shoes please :-)
(NancyL) But yes, seems the "floating past" the Earth
implies REALLY slowing down.
(S7L) But it's noteworthy that Nancy seems to
have Aristotelean concept of motion where motion can't exist without a force
causing it, somehow.
(N) Has the zeta's some to say about how the "volume "
experience is related to the spirit, or even the design of our solar
system?
(Nondisclosure) And it does the same manuveurs at the Sun's
twin?
(PottM) I can see see friction. What I can't see is your
reality.
(Gerard) N: not related
(NancyL) Cyber, like a train track. This
is in Science section, big time.
(Mmt) Is the inverse rotation of Venus
related to Px?
(PottM) I stated that there would be little friction of a
solid passing over a liquid.
(RobH) Mmt - yes it seems and Uranus is on its
side also because of a passage.
(NancyL) Samsara, in existing ZT (check the
sci.astro posting I did today for background at
http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use05182.htm) this is explained.
(PottM)
Otherwise you would get burned everytime you fall down on water
ski's.
(NancyL) Comets are affected by the solar wind, greatly.
(Okidok)
Are the underground facilities in Dulce constructed to survive Planet X
passing?
(NancyL) Jerry, yes, and Plato reported this was what the ancients
told him, etc, at times, the earth turns in the other direction, etc.
(Torbj)
Is the speed of Planet X the same as Mother Earth´s at the time of rotational
stoppage?
(SteveH) PottM, I guess you haven't water skiied much as you can
get burned!
(NancyL) Read Prophecy section as I think that Plato quote is
there.
(Adsf231) You would get burned if you move thousand miles per
hour
(TimeIsNear) Samsara2003: better head for http://groups.google.com and
type sci.astro... You'll see ALL of the posting there.
(Cybervvizz) It was
even a concept of NASA to pull spaceships forwards with a huge shield, capturing
solar wind.
(TimeIsNear) Samsara2003: not only Nancy's
(NancyL) Nondis,
the Sun's dead twin and Sun do NOT do a binary dance, as their equilibrium has
them at a standstill.
(Nondisclosure) No, I meant does Niburu go through the
same motions at the "other end"?
(NancyL) Okidok, all underground facilities
are at great risk. Big joke for those that built them with taxpayer money and
thought to save just themselves.
(USASpike) Like the Bushes
(Guest) What
is to be done for the future.
(NancyL) ZT to Torbj: The speed at which Planet
X "floats past" the Earth is much faster than the rate the Earth travels in her
orbit.
(Zetax) An "un-ignited" star and our sun cannot be in equilibrium.
Especially if they both started with equal mass.
(NancyL) ZT: Planet X will
be millions of miles from the Earth, not quite halfway between the Earth and
Sun.
(Torbj) So we on earth will never see Planet X stand still
then....
(NancyL) ZT: Where the speed of Planet X is suffient to move it from
one side of Saturn's orbit to the other in 3 short months, is slows while close
to the Sun.
(TimeIsNear) Why?
(NancyL) ZT: This is akin to the braking
action a large truck barreling down the highway would have to do to maneuver a
curve.
(USASpike) Will Class X solar flares increase prior to PS?
(TimeIsNear) So is someone maneuvering Planets X path?
(NancyL) ZT:
Planet X grips the Earth, causing rotation stoppage, well before being between
the Earth and Sun.
(Jerry) I have noticed that Sony camcorders have
'infrared' sensors on them... could they be used to help find PX?
(Jeremy)
Are the detaching ice sheets of Antarctica directly related to the warming
oceans, which in turn is caused by Planet X? Scientists report parts of
Antarctica are also cooling despite the melting elsewhere.
(NancyL) ZT: It
does so because it is approaching from the south, it's north pole to the Earth's
south pole, at an angle such that the side of the Earth facing the Sun is more
affected by the approach.
(TimeIsNear) NancyL, whats the name of the zeta
channeled right now ?
(Cybervvizz) Q: at the moment most major planets are on
one side of the sun, would that not protect us somehow or have influence to the
orbit of Planet X? From which sign is PlanetX coming ?
(NancyL) ZT: Thus,
while at some distance from the point of passage, it has gripped Earth to the
point of not letting the highly magnetized Atlantic Rift GO.
(NancyL) ZT:
During this week, the size of the approaching Planet X horrifies those on the
daylight side of the Earth.
(Samsara2003) Why does a more severe poleshift
occur during this passage, when Px is further away from the earth than the last
passage?
(Nondisclosure) So we'll see it in daylight?
(NancyL) ZT: At
first a reddish blob only a fraction of the size of the Moon, it grows in size
and appears to twist and turn like a dragon in the sky.
(NancyL) ZT: The
ancients recorded this as a fire dragon in the sky, as the tail of swirling
moons gave this appearance.
(WooferBR) Maybe it happens just as described in
Nostradamus...
(USASpike) This will be7 weeks prior to PS?
(Samsara2003)
My god.... how horrible
(NancyL) ZT: When appoaching the point of passage,
the shift suddenly happens, and this is BEFORE the point when Planet X is
actually between the Earth and Sun.
(NancyL) ZT: After the passage, Planet X
exits as quickly as it approached.
(NancyL) End ZT to ..
whomever.
(Nondisclosure) So, two-three weks prior to the shift, we'll see it
during daylight?
(NancyL) Samsar, this is also explained in existing ZT.
Prior Shift writeup, I think.
(Samsara2003) Why does a more severe poleshift
occur during this passage, when px is further away from the earth than the last
passage? Is there an optimum distance that causes the greatest severity?
etc..
(USASpike) What will be a bigger threat, comet tail debris or the
winds?
(Torbj) Thanx!
(N) Is there also some trouble on Px
itself??
(Cybervvizz) Qagain: at the moment most major planets are on one
side of the sun, would that not protect us somehow or have influence to the
orbit of Planet X ? From which side is PlanetX coming?
(NancyL) They said it
was a closer passage, and thus a more sudden JERK this way and that, causing the
continental RIP to drop the oceans of the world 16-20 feet further.
(NancyL)
ZT: It was a quick shift away, but as it was so close, the core found it was in
ALIGNMENT right after the passage, and stayed, did not continue to 90 degrees or
more.
(PottM) NancyL: Where was Antarctica prior to the last major
shift?
(Samsara2003) Before directly between the earth and the sun? The zeta
state otherwise at http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p21.htm
(NancyL) Nondis,
7 weeks prior, you will be able to see it, no scopes needed.
(Nondisclosure)
Thanks
(Samsara2003) When the giant comet positions itself exactly between
the Earth and its Sun, things change. The Earth then has its greatest advocate
for its previous alignment, the Sun and its magnetic alignment, negated.
(TimeIsNear) Samsara2003: Hehe contradictions...
contradictions....
(Okidok) Here is a image of Planet X on my web site
http://home.online.no/~aagroenn/hobbyer.htm
(Zetax) Yes... obvious
contradiction
(NancyL) USA, debris, as if a huge rock drops on you, no escape
or protection. But ALL will be affected by the winds, which you can defend
against. Rocks, no defense, but rare.
(Mmt) How will the political state of
the world be in the few weeks before?
(NancyL) N, Px just enjoys to show, so
to speak. Not affected at all.
(BrianC) Nancy, any word on the shoe
dropping?
(NancyL) Cyber, the other planets protect us? Except that Px drops
below the Eliptic, to avoid them, no protection.
(USASpike) Metal shipping
containers still considered the best shelter?
(Cybervvizz) Thanks
(NancyL)
Cyber, look at the Asteroid Belt, were THEY protected?
(NancyL) PottM, check
out the Ice Ages writeup in Science section. Shows the prior poles some steps
back.
(KeyBoarDz) Rush's new album cover looks like PX.
http://www.rush.com/vaportrails/DeskTops/Screen_Vapor.jpg
(PottM) NancyL:
Well I think those diagrams are BS as the ICE on Antarctica is estimated to be
at least 100,000 thousand years old at it's lower levels.
(Abk) The other
shoe dropping?
(Samsara2003) Sorry... no contradition... ZT stated ROTATION
stoppage occurs before between the earth and the sun.... I was referring to the
POLESHIFT occurance - which DOES occur when Nibiru is directly between the earth
and the sun...
(NancyL) Gerard, Time is Near is flooding me, probably all of
us, with notes. Can you kill him?
(PottM) This deviates greatly from what you
propose it's true movement to be.
(TimeIsNear) All of us?
(PottM) Another
reason why I think your full of yourself.
(Samsara2003)
Wshhhuuuu.....
(Cybervvizz) I guess we will soon see more UFO's picking some
people up, no? :-)
(TimeIsNear) What the heck r u talking about?
(Gerard)
NancyL: u can use /ignore (nickname)
(Gerard) Works fine
(NancyL)
Gerard, ok :-)
(Wage) Let's hear about the shoe dropping
(NancyL) The
other shoe has not dropped yet. Shoes, that is.
(Zetapal) Ok
(Wage) What
are the shoes?
(BrianC) Any estimate on when they will drop?
(NancyL)
Think about what could happen, suddenly, when there is such a large coverup and
the general public is beginning to sense how this will impact THEM.
(Torbj)
Been a while now... start "training" to use your stomach first, then your
brain... and you will survive!
(NancyL) A lot of folks go along with a
coverup if panic is more worrysome than failing to inform folks.
(Jeremy) Any
comments about the rapid series of iceberg detachments from
Antarctica?
(Samsara2003) No... I take it back again... there WAS a
contradiction...
(USASpike) When will that happen, before next year's taxes
are due?
(TimeIsNear) Samsara2003 of couse, its all lies.
(NancyL) For
instance, astronomers worldwide NOT talking about Px which they know is there,
image, talk about among themselves, etc.
(TimeIsNear) Samsara2003 and you
can't cover a lie with another lie...s ometime there will be a
contradiction.
(Samsara2003) Does ZT state that the poleshift occurs before
and at the time when Px is directly between the earth and the
sun?
(Samsara2003) Does ZT state that the polshift occurs before OR at the
time when Px is directly between the earth and the sun?
(NancyL) What is they
decide they are nauseous about the coverup demands, the impact on mankind,
uninformed, and TALK.
(Look4) Nancy, any comments regarding the obvious
contradictions? thanks sam
(USASpike) Can amatuer astronomers see PX
yet?
(Adsf231) When are there going to be more images of Px?
(NancyL)
Think about the folks in the media, knowing that the powers that be KNOW about
the possibilities, are stocking up and making plans, but not informing, for
instance, THEM.
(Zetax) There are MANY contradictions...
(Torbj) If you
know the "talk" of your stomach, you will never be in control of someone other
then yourself!
(Karen) Do you think all the talk about Bush knowing about
911's possibility is part of this
(TimeIsNear) NancyL... so, what about the
CONTRADICTIONS??
(NancyL) Might they be pissed at this? Might they lay
boopers where the truth comes out? Might they have divided loyalties re the
powers that be (politicians and NASA or whomever) and their feelings toward
their own selves and family et al?
(Samsara2003) ZT on Website: When the
giant comet positions itself exactly between the Earth and its Sun, things
change.
(NancyL) What if they design in revelations into newscasts, and then
say "oh, sorry", as they are pissed?
(NancyL) These are the types of shoes
that can drop, etc.
(Samsara2003) Zet on IRC : ZT: When appoaching the point
of passage, the shift suddenly happens, and this is BEFORE the point when Planet
X is actually between the Earth and Sun.
(KeyBoarDz) The Rush album cover
could be a revelation...
(NancyL) Samsara2003, ZT was stating, just now, that
it occurs BEFORE it comes directly between, it is the passing NP of PX pulling
the Earths SP with it, etc.
(NancyL) USA, check the TOPIC
http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword032.htm re sighting questions. All
there.
(S7L) NP and SP are the north and south poles, lest anyone
ask
(NancyL) Did I miss any really technical Q's about the Distance/Speed? I
try to scan them all... IMO is not here, and I kind of expected him
...
(Samsara2003) Ok fine... thx for clearing that up. :) I got nervous there
for a minute...
(Cybervvizz) Q: Don't understand your train track, is it an
ecliptical orbit or an orbit in a 8 curve?
(NancyL) Time, the contradictions
are with human understanding, which is wrong, and human math, which is
wrong.
(NancyL) Thus, contradictions only in your mind.
(TimeIsNear) So,
Zetas Right Always?
(Samsara2003) Nancy or anyone else: Are you familiar with
www.grantchronicles.com?
(PottM) NancyL: Why must you discount everything
human?
(Zetax) No, I believe it is "Zetas Right Again!" he he
(NancyL)
Cyber, the train track is a long stretched out eliptical orbit, NOT an egg
shape, but closer to parallel tracks between the two foci.
(Cybervvizz)
Thanks
(TimeIsNear) NancyL, please tell me... ZetaTalk is ALWAYS
right?
(Torbj) As our friends Zetas are here for us now... more are... feel
them.
(Jerry) Since Zetans are a few million years older... just maybe they
might know something.
(PottM) You act as though humans were a right off just
like your car.
(Samsara2003) Predictions of Px with Zeta coordinates that
goes VERY deeply into alien theories of gravitation, particle flow, and density
shifting... wondering if it's valid...
(KeyBoarDz) Nancy: How much longer
will you do Zetachat? ... right up until the passing?
(NancyL) Time, Zetas
have been right always in my experience. Only YOU think not because you bring in
human THEORIES and say, they say otherwise, so they are wrong!
(Okidok) Will
the Nibiruen inhabitants take a short visit to earth when they are passing, to
say hello, how are u doing?
(TimeIsNear) NancyL, ok so everything human is
wrong, and EVERYTHING Zeta is right
(NancyL) Samsara2003, GrantChronicles has
no author or contact person, right?
(NancyL) Copies ZetaTalk a
lot.
(Samsara2003) Yes - No authors
(TimeIsNear) NancyL: WHat about the
movie you want to produce?
(Karen) As long as the satelites hold out I hope
we have zetatalk
(Samsara2003) It seems valid, intuitively...
(TimeIsNear)
NancyL: What about the movie you want to produce?
(NancyL) PottM, ZT
discounts human logic because of people like YOU, who are arrogant and NOT
right, etc.
(Samsara2003) Is it the orions or another alien
group?
(Jeremy) Odidok: No, they are quarantined from Earth by the Council Of
Worlds
(NancyL) I respect a lot of humans, just not those that lead with Flat
Earth is RIGHT, approach, like you're doing.
(Morko) This is getting
interesting
(TimeIsNear) NancyL: What about the movie you want to produce?
Please , what is the status of that project of yours?
(Samsara2003)
Suspicious however, as it claims to have received rebuttals to the site...
unlikely if there are is no contact information... Lol
(PottM) NancyL: I'm
only being as arrogant as you are towards humans.
(Jerry) To learn... you
must have open mind to accept new ideas
(Cruithne) I will stay open minded to
all things
(NancyL) Okidok, not mingling with the Nibiruians, we are
quarantined from each other, etc.
(Zetapal) "human logic" versus "pure
logic"? Hm interesting...
(Samsara2003) It's still a very interesting read,
however
(BrianC) Do Zeta's fly triangular ships?
(TimeIsNear) NancyL: What
about the movie you want to produce? Please , what is the status of that project
of yours ?
(Nondisclosure) Jerry, but don't open your mind so much so as to
be taken for a fool
(NancyL) Time, you dolt! I put that out years ago and did
not change it since! It says "or other arrangement with a producer" like TV or
short story in a magazine or whatever.
(Jeremy) Nancy, can the Zetas say
anything about Anarctica please, as it is the most significant earth change
process now occurring
(Torbj) The "right" logic is second
logic.
(TimeIsNear) Well why dont u chaneg it?
(Jerry) That is where
wisdom comes in Nondis.
(Samsara2003) Yes - Antarctica's changes are very
dramatic...
(TimeIsNear) And why would uu want to do that, when theres so
littler time before planetx passage
(NancyL) Samsara2003, maybe if you write
the ISP you can get a contact, but I suspect not.
(Wage) Jeremy they did,
it's melting b/c of heating of the core beneath the caps
(USASpike) Black
oceans are pretty significant
(Nondisclosure) Correct Jerry
(NancyL) Time,
I will, you have a valid point there, your first.
(Samsara2003) I wonder if
the Zetas would comment on the validity of Chet Snow's Hypnotic future-life
progressions by Helen Wambach...
(Jeremy) Wage: Did they say that earlier
this session?
(NancyL) Time, however, I did get a serious contact from a
producer just a couple months ago, and HE did not think the time too
short!
(Samsara2003) Talks about life in the aftertime... it's a pretty
dismal picture - at least for the first 100 years or so...
(NancyL) Hollywood
knowledgeable you are NOT.
(TimeIsNear) Oh really?
(Zetapal)
Yup
(Look4) Contact email for www.grantchronicles.com is
rgrant@AOL.COM
(NancyL) Samsara, re Chet Snow et all 1. does he predict, 2.
are his predictions valid? Else, no comment, per ZT rules, etc.
(Torbj)
Hey...can zeta tell something about mankind´s feeling of
"timerush"?
(Samsara2003) Look4: How do you know that?
(Cybervvizz) Q: Can
we have some little example of Zeta Math, earlier zeta's stated they don't fill
in paramteters and even don't use equitions. But even in our math we use
formula's like Y)X+3 and Y(2*x
(TimeIsNear) If nothing happens by Jun 2003...
will u gladly give back the donors money?
(Look4) Do a whois search on
www.grantchronicles.com
(NancyL) I think I know rgrant.
(Torbj) Sorry
about my English...
(Zetapal) No donors stoner
(TimeIsNear) NancyL: if
nothing happens by Jun 2003... will u gladly give back the donors
money?
(Okidok) Hmm hadde bare to treff på siden min,,, ikke særlig attraktiv
tydeligvis?
(NancyL) Time, the donors are not complaining, YOU are
complaining.
(Abk) Chet Snow does predict a major earth catastrophe around
2003, lots of loss of life
(Samsara2003) Who is rgrant? He talks like an
alien... Lol
(Lebrasse) Are you going to do more IRC sessions
Nancy?
(Zetax) Time: after you do the home improvements you can't cash the
money back out again.
(Torbj) Norsk, okidokke
(Wage) Nancy what do the
zetas say about the disclosures that the Bush White House had fore
knowledge?
(Cruithne) Who came out with the 1st earth change map
(Zetapal)
Cayce
(NancyL) OK folks, its past the hour and I've been lingering in case
there were sci.astro kind of Q's, but none such.
(TimeIsNear) NancyL: if
nothing happens by Jun 2003... will u gladly give back the donors
money?
(NancyL) Re White House knowledge, will put this on the Agenda for
next week.
(Zetapal) Thanks for the extra time nancy
(RobH) Thanks for
another great session Nancy! Take care :)
(SteveH) Thanks Nancy and
Z's
(Gerard) Bye Nancy it was a good session. Thanks to you and the Zetas
(NancyL) Bye bye all, and thanks for attending and inspiring great
ZT.
(Nondisclosure) No point, sci.astro "type" questions are always answered
with "humans are unaware of xxx"
Session Close: Sat May 18 18:23:57
2002