Session Start: Sat Oct 19 16:36:28 2002
(Starstalker) We have many here in
Oklahome
(Jurian) Don't think they're usual here in sweden either
(NancyL)
Hi folks, I have NO agenda today, and am looking to collect one.
(Jurian)
Haven't heard of one here yet :)
(Cmel) We had one in august that was f2,
ripped a few roofs off
(HenryK) Trees and twisters seem to be the current
topics here
(NancyL) I got an interesting report on email re the Stock Market
I want to share, ZetaTalk Accuracy comment by the sender ..
(Torbj) Mm...and
swedish trees!
(Cmel) I read about a rather large meteorite slamming down in
Sibiria, is there anything to that story ?
(NancyL) Guy said saying "From the
chart at right you can see that the Dow JUMPED 300+ points within the first 15
minutes of the market opening at 8,038, peaking at 8,318. If the news was SO
EXCITING that we just HAD to buy, why didn't the market rise above the 8,318
value for the entire rest of the day?"
(ShadowCow) I'd like to know what the
Zetas beleive to be the best form of government in the aftertime.
(NancyL)
And web site addy where the chart showed this:
http://home.flash.net/~rhmjr/index.html
(Pegasi71) NancyL: Anything on the N.
Korea disclosure?
(NancyL) And quoted Oct 5 ZT: "Control of the Stock Market
is under the control of money managers more than is understood. Thus, money
managers, under the hand of elite, who hire them and can fire them, are told not
to sell, even with bad indicators, or even to buy when the indicators would say
otherwise."
(NancyL) CNN's Lou Dobs was also very upset that early this week
analysts had said BUY BUY and the market rose as this guy stated, but ALL the
economic indicators were down. So the little guy loses, once again,
etc.
(CyberVVizz) QueenVee: No doubt now for us related to your honesty, but
can Zeta's assure they have good intentions and no hidden agenda ?
(NancyL)
ShadowCow's Q on govmt in the Aftertime accepted, Q1
(Cmel) I read about a
rather large meteorite slamming down in Sibiria, is there anything to that
story?
(QueenVee) CyberVVizz: you've attributed that question to the wrong
person. it's not mine
(CyberVVizz) Yes, it was my nickcompletor, sorry
Queenvee
(CyberVVizz) Question - No doubt now for us related to your honesty,
but can Zeta's assure they have good intentions and no hidden agenda?
(Venus)
All that high tech stuff. Useless :-)
(NancyL) N. Korea was KNOWN to have the
bomb, my understanding. Months ago they were lobbing a bomb over Japan's islands
or some such, I recall in the news, testing their missiles.
(Pegasi71)
Yikes
(Torbj) Heres a possible Q: A meteorite crash in siberia and a
spaceRocketcrash in the "same" area within the same week....any
conections?
(NancyL) Cyber, QueenVee, can we be assured of YOUR good
intentions? I trust them a HECK of a lot more than you.
(ZetaCurious)
LOL
(CyberVVizz) Yes, look to our aura
(Cmel) I'm with you on that Torbj
:)
(ShadowCow) I would like to make the request that people here today please
respect the right of others to hear this talk and refrain from interuptions.
Please respect the speakers and the listeners as if they were in your home! You
will only reap what you sow. smib
(NancyL) Cmel, meteorites will become more
and more common, so lets not dwell, etc.
(NancyL) Torbj, no connection, quick
answer from the Z's.
(Cmel) Oh ok
(AGreenspan) The past week marked the
seventh year to the assassination of the late PM of Israel, Yitzhak Rabin.
Investigator journalist and author Barry Chamish concludes his investigation
into the murder, by pointing out that the mastermind behind the assassination is
no other then the current Foreign Minister of Israel, Shimon Peres. Is there any
truth to this? Who was/were behind the assassination and what were their
motives? -
(Cmel) It was on BBC so I guess its right, it Did
happen
(Jurian) Growl
(NancyL) Russia, per what the Z's said in another
session where the Q was about UFO's over a base, said this was Russians fighting
Russians, so they have their ambitions and problems, for sure, like the
US.
(Kramark) Q for zetas - are Sourthern African leaders on the right track
with Nepad?
(Pegasi71) NancyL: There are groups being introduced to each
other...are there others who have 'solo' missions?
(NancyL) AGrennspan's Q on
assassination accepted as Q2
(Torbj) Ahh okey!
(ZetaCurious)
Evening
(AGreenspan) Thank you.
(NancyL) What is Nepad, Kramark? So we
don't have another Beatles thingie, I need to be clued, not
clue-less
(Redeye) Nancy, has Princess Diana's death ever been explained on
ZT ?
(Cmel) Or glued :)
(Redeye) I know its rather non
related..
(NancyL) Pegasi71, yes, MOST are solo, but increasingly get
introduced to others who can help them, be helped, etc.
(TerrorDactyl) Car
crash in paris
(Obany) Redeye: not important enough I would say, it's bad it
happened but what use will it have
(Pegasi71) Ok, thank you
(Obany)
?
(Jeremy) Nancy: Can the Zetas give any indications if the recent Soyuz
rocket disaster, and the failure of backup explosive bolts to go off on a recent
shuttle liftoff are connected in any way to the PX/Mars escape quarantine
imposed by the Council of Worlds?
(Redeye) Yeah, seemed rather suspicious
though
(QueenVee) NancyL: PLEASE NOTE THAT I DID NOT ASK THAT QUESTION ABOUT
YOUR/THE ZETAS INTENTIONS. MY NAME WAS INSERTED INTO THAT QUESTION
MALICIOUSLY.
(NancyL) Redeye, no, but she is not considered a mover or
shaker, and it is family matters level, so declined. I personally think she was
killed, deliberately, myself.
(Samsara2003) Nancy: Any Zeta comment on the
validity of the channel Lisette Larkins?
(S7L) When QV wants your attention,
she is sure to get it.
(Jurian) Lol
(NancyL) Jeremey, yes, but is Soyuz in
US or what country? I need to be on the same page, etc.
(Cmel) I think so too
Nancy
(AgentPX) QueenVee: we saw your name
(TerrorDactyl) I'd like to
know, do zetas ever fall in love, or is it a human thing? Also, do zetas have
families?
(Redeye) I see
(Kramark) Not sure of the Adrev Nepad - in a
nutshell it is what Mbekei is doing for Southern Africa and wondered if this
related to pole shift
(Obany) Samsara: give some info on who that person is
and what she says .. if you ask your question?
(NancyL) Queenvee, we hear
that loud and clear, and it will be in the log :-)
(Jurian) NancyL: Soyuz is
a rocket type used by the Russians :)
(Ummite) Lol
(QueenVee)
:-)
(NancyL) Samsara, does this channel predict, is accurate? No? No comment
then.
(ZooSpecimen) Hehe
(NancyL) Terror, you need a girl
friend.
(MikeO) The rocket was launched on Russian territory, about 1100 km
north of Moscow.
(Torbj) To fall in love is you loosing your
freightness
(NancyL) Kramark, Oh, you are asking about taking Africa BACK,
I'll take it in that context, yes, as Q3.
(TerrorDactyl) Ok, well what is
falling in love, and is it a galactic phenomena?
(Torbj) No fear...you are in
love!
(CyberVVizz) How can they have love if they have banned
emotions?
(Jeremy) Hi Mike-O, thanks for providing those extra
details
(ZooSpecimen) If a person was a STO would he/she know that for
certain?
(Kramark) Ok I knew that
(Redeye) Torbj: freightness?
(Torbj)
No good in english
(Drfist) PLEASE RESPECT THE RIGHT OF OTHERS TO HEAR THIS
TALK AND REFRAIN FROM INTERRUPTIONS. RESPECT THE SPEAKERS AND THE LISTENERS AS
THOUGH THEY WERE IN YOUR OWN HOME.
(CyberVVizz) If You think the mental body
is the highest in Universe, you miss the point
(QueenVee) PLEASE RESPECT THE
RIGHT OF OTHERS TO HEAR THIS TALK AND REFRAIN FROM INTERRUPTIONS. RESPECT THE
SPEAKERS AND THE LISTENERS AS THOUGH THEY WERE IN YOUR OWN HOME.
(PGill)
PLEASE RESPECT THE RIGHT OF OTHERS TO HEAR THIS TALK AND REFRAIN FROM
INTERRUPTIONS. RESPECT THE SPEAKERS AND THE LISTENERS AS THOUGH THEY WERE IN
YOUR OWN HOME.
(Redeye) :) I understand
(CyberVVizz) Don't
shatter
(Jurian) Wtf
(Handlanger) Blah
(Jurian) Stop that
shit
(Cmel) Plz dont use uppercase
(CyberVVizz) IRC rulez
(Jurian) Next
one to talk in all caps gets booted
(Silk) I second those remarks
(Redeye)
Saboteurs...
(TerrorDactyl) Don't use upper case in your own
home
(LeftField) NancyL What is the Zeta's view/understanding of
God?
(Obany) Talking in Caps is like shouting... which is a bit of NO done in
IRC
(ZetaCurious) Ya, enough shouting!
(Redeye) Read the site
Lefty
(Drfist) Sorry about the full caps, we are serious about the
interuptions, O.k
(Anaerobic) Will we ever see PX images "accidentally"
leaked from NASA with help from Zs?
(TerrorDactyl) I'd like to hear a little
more about Zeta's and their lifestyles
(AgentPX) QueenVee: please shut up and
stop yelling
(NancyL) Zoo, often STO suspect they are NOT when they are so
very concerned and self-sacrificing, my observation. They must be reassured that
STO is 50/50, not 100% for others.
(NancyL) Russian liftoff Q4 accepted from
Jeremey and Jurian.
(ZooSpecimen) Ty
(Jeremy) Thanks Nancy :)
(3j) You
have time to answer 4 Q's today?
(Cmel) What you mean you are serious
drfist/QueenVee/PGill
(NancyL) Leftfield re God, etc. this is in the Worlds
section, I belive, Got Religion writeup.
(LeftField) NancyL k, thanks
(3j)
Cmel, maybe they will hunt interuptors down?
(Cmel) Perhaps
(Drfist) Yes
we want to listen! to Nancy and zetas and not you, o.k
(Anaerobic) Are Zs at
work now preventing war with Iraq?
(NancyL) Anaerobic, I doubt we will ever
get the straight poop from NASA re Px, but leaking and instantly denied, along
with the poor soul wisked off to the nutty ward, perhaps.
(Cmel) 'They' will,
it looks like a hive mentallity though ... lol
(Drfist) Just a civilized
request
(3j) Yes hive
(NancyL) Terror, have you read all in the Worlds
section re that? Tell me what you've read, and what is missing (this is a
test)
(3j) It's the queen's crew afterall :P
(TerrorDactyl) Can you ask
the zeta's what it is in Saddam's background that makes him the way he
is?
(Anaerobic) Thank you.
(Cmel) It's QueenBee
(Torbj) Why should
anyone outside prevent something we want to have?
(Cmel)
Heh
(TerrorDactyl) I know they lay in a liquid
(NancyL) Anaerobic re Iraq,
I suspect yes, big time, but Q declined at this time (maybe
later).
(Anaerobic) Thank you.
(TerrorDactyl) They dont do sport but play
advanced games
(NancyL) Terror, he's narcistic, sadistic, a child, a brute,
nothing special in humankind!
(TerrorDactyl) Did I pass the test
(HenryK)
When will PlanetX be undisputebly visible?
(AgentPX) I hear Saddam was
molested when he was young
(NancyL) Terror, good for you! Now read about
their love life, as it is there too!
(Cmel) Oh hes ordinary, hhhmmmm seems
bad for humankind :(
(Obany) Just a short note: If you ask question, be sure
that your questions are relevant, don't ask questions that are not related, like
asking about popstars etc etc
(NancyL) AgentPx, so are many many children, a
common problem.
(Jeremy) HenryK: When its visible as a red cross some 7
weeks before the pole shift. Red cross should be visible by early
April
(Samsara2003) Nancy: Can the Zetas comment on what affect the passage
might have on the moon? Does the moon shift as well?
(Jurian) Heh, and READ
the website and use the search engine before asking stuff
(CyberVVizz) I
think some kind of churgery sport
(NancyL) HenryK, indisputably? Per
debunkers and NASA "oh, it's only a this or that in the sky", never
indisputable.
(AgentPX) Jeremy: when should PX enter in our solar
system?
(NancyL) YOU will see it 7 weeks before passage, without aid of
scope, etc. in the daytime sky.
(Cmel) It's close to the hour
(Pegasi71)
Samsara: thats in Density section, I think
(Monoxyde) Sitchin says you lie.
Sitchin says the 2003 date has no proof.
(Cmel) Yes he does
(Jeremy)
AgentPX: It should be sometime in March i.e. close to the time when it is
visible as a red cross
(NancyL) Samsara, it says in the Pole Shift section
that the moon hugs the earth, and care not about the passage at all.
(Torbj)
I live...but I dont have any proof of that
(Cmel) Of what Torbj ?
(NancyL)
Monoxyde, re Sitchin, I have great respect for him, but he's wrong and I wish
him well during the passage. Living in NYC, I believe.
(Samsara2003) I think
that was referring to the moons of Px - not our moon
(Pegasi71) Samsara:
http://zetatalk.com/density/d40.htm
(ZooSpecimen) You can find things quickly
using the 'key word index' at the zetatalk site
(Monoxyde) I've always found
you a bit of a kooky one anyways NancyL
(AgentPX) Jeremy: I thought pX had a
magnitude of 20.. Shouldn't be visible at eyes when entering the solar
system
(NancyL) Samsara, the moons of PX do not leave Px either, during the
passage, my understanding.
(TerrorDactyl) Nancy, I have been wondering why
we have sandy deserts which take millions of years to form by the action of wind
on rock? If Px passes every 3600 then shouldn't the deserts not be there, maybe
underwater instead?
(NancyL) AgentPX, look at the images in the TEAM section
and make your Magnitude answers for yourself.
(Cmel) But Px influences other
smaller bodies to deviate from their orbit
(Silk)
http://m1.aol.com/deepspacegirl/comparison.htm
(NancyL) OK, the hour is upon
us, and 4 accepted Q's will start.
(Torbj) I'm Hugging you,
Nancy!
(NancyL) Q1: AFTERTIME
(NancyL) 1. I'd like to know what the Zetas
beleive to be the best form of government in the aftertime.
(NancyL) ZT: The
Aftertime will find most of mankind in a dearth of government
directives.
(NancyL) ZT: Even small towns, governed by mayors well known on
the city streets to all, and traveling bands governed by chieftans, will feel
the lack.
(NancyL) ZT: Insanity, depression, loss of life and confusion will
remove the firm hand so familiar from governing.
(NancyL) ZT: Families will
look to their elders, the family man, the religious leader, and find them all
staring, shaking their heads, and unable to speak.
(NancyL) ZT: In these
situations, leadership arises from the needy, natural leaders
emerging.
(NancyL) ZT: Often they are children, to whom MOST of life is
startling and strange, the unfamiliar presented almost daily.
(NancyL) ZT: To
the child, this is more an adventure, an opportunity to act without constant
parental admonitions.
(NancyL) ZT: They will make suggestions, and be allowed
to proceed, and often lead their dazed and depressed parents and elders about
like rag dolls.
(NancyL) ZT: Beyond the children, who will be inventive and
energetic in the main, women will assume command by doing daily
chores.
(NancyL) ZT: It is often said that men, who have single tasks in
society, suffer when retiring, but women, who had the many tasks keeping the
household going, are without retirement.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, women SEE what to
do with their time, and proceed, and being useful live longer and in greater
health.
(NancyL) ZT: In like manner, after the shift, women will wash and
clean, gather and cook a meal, and thus be looked upon as someone who can direct
activities.
(NancyL) ZT: When the depression clears, and survivors begin
looking about them, determining if they should seek out a government rep or make
a report, perhaps seek help from their government, a different conclusion will
arise.
(NancyL) ZT: Each initiating, others observing and offering to help,
and sharing, has taken place.
(NancyL) ZT: This is the STO society of your
future, and once established by survivor groups, should NOT be supplanted by ego
driven directive by the power hungry.
(NancyL) ZT: Tell them to sit back down
and fall silent, as you did SO much better before they found their
tongue.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(TerrorDactyl) Won't the leaders be the
ones with the biggest weapons?
(Cmel) Good Q
(LeftField) NancyL What
delineates these children's mental alacrity from the depression adults will
suffer?
(ShadowCow) So you see w diminished role for men or a perhaps a
return to frontier governments of the 19th Century?
(Redeye) Their will be
STO warriors also terror
(Cmel) How is weapons avoided
(Monoxyde) What
happens to the world's nuclear arsenol?
(NancyL) In the case of the
government bunkers, yes, and they will all go about barking orders at each
other, but MOST of the world will not see them again.
(ZooSpecimen) Will the
zeta's give out weapons to the STO's?
(Jeremy) Nancy: Do you/the Zetas
anticipate future post-pole shift leaders amonst the audience here
now?
(TerrorDactyl) In a time of chaos, then the guy with an M16 is gonna
make the rules
(NancyL) Leftfield, the children have not LOST, so are not
depressed. In other words, they didn't lose the 401K, the house almost paid off,
the job with 25 years in, etc.
(Cmel) Monoxyde I guess it just sits there and
radiates
(Obany) Zoospecimen: just think about that one... I don't think so
(LeftField) NancyL k, thanks
(Jurian) TerrorDactyl: not likely, he needs
to sleep as well, and munitions will not be infinite :p
(Samsara2003) Can the
zetas tell us where Bush and his cronnies are planning on hiding so we can find
them after the shift. ;)
(NancyL) Mono, the nukes may or may not be disarmed,
ARE being disarmed, but this is in the hands of man, etc.
(Monoxyde) But the
children won't have parents
(Monoxyde) So they will be depressed.
(NancyL)
Zoo, no weapons, no.
(Torbj) Weapons are vibrations....you fear them... you
got them
(Pegasi71) They will have protectors
(NancyL) Terror, please read
the Transformation section, the guy with the gun may not FIND the survivor
group.
(Torbj) You love them....you got them
(Stphrz) I am
protected
(Cmel) The children will be adopted
(TerrorDactyl) Even if you
are STO, then it makes sense to have weapons just for defence
(LeftField)
NancyL Do you communicate with the Zetan's telepathically or via
channelling?
(NancyL) Jeremy, being in a chat and being a leader of men does
not always relate :-)
(Pegasi71) Cmel: yup :)
(Jurian) LeftField: that's
on the site, read it
(Obany) Jeremy: I think the Zetas do see leaders among
the audience. I think that some of those people here just kinda know
(NancyL) OK, onto Q2 ..
(NancyL) Q2: ASSASSINATION
(NancyL) 1. The
past week marked the seventh year to the assassination of the late PM of Israel,
Yitzhak Rabin. Investigator journalist and author Barry Chamish concludes his
investigation into the murder, by pointing out that the mastermind behind the
assassination is no other then the current Foreign Minister of Israel, Shimon
Peres. Is there any truth to this? Who was/were behind the assassination and
what were their motives? -
(NancyL) ZT: Lately, the Israeli have been noted
for bloodthirsty treatment of their neighbors, the Palestinians.
(NancyL) ZT:
Coming out of WWII, they invoked pity in all, so great was their suffering, but
in a half century, this has turned.
(NancyL) ZT: The country is now being
lead by those who hunger only for the land of their neighbors, and seek every
opportunity to settle on land not theirs, and incite those disinfranchised to
throw rocks.
(NancyL) ZT: In this climate, was former Prime Minister Rabin
killed by an assassin, or was this arranged, ala JFK, by those wanting to
displace him?
(NancyL) ZT: Rabin was no more killed by a single individual
than JFK, nor will the truth be any more forthcoming than the JFK
investigations, culminating in a single bullet theory.
(NancyL) ZT: The
current Foreign Minister has himself been under investigation, as has Bush at
Harken, and gotten away scot free.
(NancyL) ZT: It is no surprise that both
these so-called leaders, who to some degree stole their place in government by
deceit and treachery, are friends.
(NancyL) ZT: They think alike, and plot to
take over and divide the world among them, Israel with all the oil and land it
needs, spreading into Europe after the shift, and Bush with the North American
continent to start.
(NancyL) ZT: Those who killed Rabin were a group, not a
single individual, just as those who put Bush in the White House are not even
seen on TV or given Cabinet positions.
(NancyL) ZT: Just as Hitler was
controlled by those behind him, behind the scenes, so these two power mad and
ruthless governors are controlled themselves, by groups MORE ruthless and power
mad.
(NancyL) ZT: Names would not be recognized, so will not be
given.
(NancyL) End ZT followup?
(TerrorDactyl) So who is the single most
powerful human on Earth?
(Crispexi) The Illuminati leader of
course
(MikeO) So the Zetas are saying the Israeli government is aware of the
coming shift?
(TerrorDactyl) His name
is........................?
(Okidok) The Black Pope
(Torbj) You are,
Terror!
(Steve) Nancy, would the Z's comment on J.H.Hatfield, author of
"Favorite Son" (about GW Bush) who was found dead. Was this an assasination as
well?
(Blip) The most powerful leader isn't a He. *dramatic music*
(Torbj)
Look within!
(NancyL) ZT to MikeO: Israel is a close associate of Bush, as
were earlier heads close, and indeed are aware of the likelihood of a coming
shift.
(Obany) Please ask questions that are related and relevant
(NancyL) End ZT to MikeO
(Tizza) Do the Jewish really control must gov.s
of the world quietly in the back ground?
(JoeyB) NancyL: Likewise, there are
powerful STO players in this game as well. Yes?
(TerrorDactyl) Who is the
puppet master - the ultimate powerful human that pulls the strings behind the
world leaders?
(ZooSpecimen) Bush can swallow Canada but we will be poison to
his system
(NancyL) Steve, Bush Sr also killed a reporter that was after the
October Surprise goods. I'm sure there are many deaths.
(Cmel) Is Osama Bin
Laden really a Jew?
(HighLandrer) Rothschids, Morgan's, Schiff's,
Rockerfeller's... the money men... do these people control all via the
banks?
(Samsara2003) What percentage of world leaders know of the coming
shift? Can the Z's give a percentage between all nations?
(HighLandrer) And
governments?
(Cmel) At least I read so!
(LeftField) NancyL What will the
Zetan relationship to us humans be after the change?
(NancyL) ZT to Tizza:
the rumor of Jewish control, Israeli control, of the world is related to major
banking interests and their control.
(QueenVee) NancyL: are we likely to see
more political assisinations between now and the poleshift?
(Obany)
Highlander: there is zetatalk about this, search for which countries ..
(NightbirdTX) Leftfield, that is all on the website.. @
zetatlk.com
(NancyL) ZT: The Jewish heritage is to be sharp, highly
intelligent, marry among themselves to the brainy, not the brawny, and thus they
earn their reputation well.
(LeftField) NightbirdTX k, thanks
(Cmel) I
know this is not related .. but what happened in Bali?
(NightbirdTX) Whoa..
Leftfield.. all on the website @ zetatalk.com
(Stphrz) Wow, just
wow
(NancyL) ZT: However, it is the $$ that should be followed, not the
sharing of a religion.
(TerrorDactyl) A bomb exploded
(NightbirdTX)
Sorry.. was typing faster than I can :)
(Cmel) Duh terror
(NancyL) ZT:
Most bankers are NOT pleased with the tone set by Israel at all.
(NancyL) End
ZT to Tizza.
(Tizza) Ta :) So basically thru financial controls
(NancyL)
Samsara, this was address earlier chat. Half dozen of so for sure, the rest
guessing and perhaps suspecting.
(NancyL) US, Britain, Russia, etc
yes.
(Spanky) Canada?
(NancyL) Queen, it's going to be VERY interesting
times, so assassinations likely, yes.
(FoolsGold) WAS THE FEDERAL RESERVE SET
UP TO BLEED US DRY BY TAXATION, SO WE ARE LESS LIKELY TO BECOME
INDEPENDENT?
(Tizza) Dickheads in aust will never work it out if they
continue to follow Bush blindly
(NancyL) I've myself wondered if the puppet
Bush will be killed off if the military get too upset with his war
mongering.
(Jeremy) Foolsgold: please don't shout...
(Stphrz) Of course
FOOLSGOLD :P
(NancyL) Most who have been to war do NOT like the idea, and for
nothing but ambitions, too.
(Obany) Foolsgold: not related, and don't use
Caps .. Caps is like shouting
(Cmel) Dammit terror where you in on it, the
Bali deal?
(FoolsGold) Roger that
(TerrorDactyl) Lol
(NancyL) CMel,
Bali is no different from India or Africa, bombs by rebels or
whomever.
(NancyL) Indonesia has had rebels kidnapping for cash for a LONG
time, for instance.
(Blip) Nancy, I hear that astronomers discovered Planet
X, but they call it Quaoar. What do the Zetas call it?
(Tizza) No bloody
wonder Bali got bombed.... it was payback I believe
(NancyL) Foolsgold, this
is always the plan of those in power :-)
(JoeyB) The Zs did say they would
all stab each other in the back.
(Spanky) They call it hadouken
:)
(Obany) Blip: that's not Planet X
(Redeye) Blip: dealt with last
week
(HighLandrer) O/T: any more info at all about the sniper?
(NancyL)
Quaorar is NOT Px, silly, just a rock outside Pluto's orbit.
(NancyL) OK Q3
...
(FoolsGold) Target practice
(NancyL) Q3: AFRICA
(NancyL) 1. Not
sure of the Adrev Nepad - in a nutshell it is what Mbekei is doing for southern
Africa and wondered if this related to pole shift
(NancyL) ZT: Africa like
much of the world was colonized early, and brutally.
(NancyL) ZT: The
Americas were colonized, but being peers of those oppressing them, they had
courage to rebel.
(NancyL) ZT: South America likewise was colonized, but the
immigrants from Europe likewise established independence.
(NancyL) ZT: The
North American Indians, and those in South America, suffer still at the hands of
the colonists, or their usurpers.
(NancyL) ZT: Countries such as India had a
long suffering time getting out from under colonists, as Gandi's history
attests.
(NancyL) ZT: East Timor was almost beaten to death by brutality
before the world finally cried enough.
(NancyL) ZT: The Australian
Aboriginals are still the underclass, though the superior culture in human
terms.
(NancyL) ZT: And Africa, almost without exception, is only lately
getting independence, and then only in name, not action.
(NancyL) ZT:
Corporate interests, supported by those countries with interests in the area,
are still ruling, brutally.
(NancyL) ZT: But just as democracies are
increasingly emerging around the globe, so the heads of the oppressed are
raising, and questioning, and demanding their rights at long last.
(NancyL)
ZT: The cry, of course, from those losing a grip on their slave classes and the
riches of the lands owned by rights to the oppressed, is the better
good.
(NancyL) ZT: Corporate interests, or the interests of governing parties
who stand to benefit, is that it is in the interest of the people to leave those
formerly in charge, in charge.
(NancyL) ZT: Starvation will ensue, loss of
jobs, an economy so fragile and recently constructed will crash, and all manner
of horror stories to DELAY the return of land and land use rights to the
oppressed rightful owners.
(NancyL) ZT: Is their truth in this? Only if those
wanting continued control MAKE IT HAPPEN. If medicine, routing of food, and
protection is withheld, then of course suffering will occur.
(NancyL) ZT: And
such manipulation is tried, repeatedly, in this game.
(NancyL) ZT: When will
the game stop? When the pole shift cuts off communication and resources from the
oppressors, the worm will turn.
(NancyL) ZT: It is then that the oppressor
will be turning for help to those oppressed, who will often remember horrors
done recently to them.
(NancyL) ZT: Not a pleasant ending, but one reflecting
the karma that often occurs in a given individuals lifetime, due to their own
actions in that lifetime.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Cmel) Even if Px was
not comming, how would we go about to stop the big multinational capital
interest, in exploiting the world ?
(Havix) Q: The complaints about Mugabe's
land reform are very similar to those raised about Castro's Cuba. Could the
zetas comment on the Bush administration vs. the socialist government in
Cuba?
(Kramark) Do the African leaders know of the pole
shift?
(TerrorDactyl) Why do you say Aboriginee's are superior? I thought all
humans were equals?
(Redeye) Will groups such as the American Indian and the
Aboriginals be prime groups for alien/hybrid interaction?
(NightbirdTX) Do
the Zetas feel Robert Mugabe is right then in throwing the farmers off the land
in Zimbabwe?
(N) He .. Nancy .. disks when on earth
actually?
(HighLandrer) In what ways are the Australian Aboriginal's
considered to be of a 'superior culture' in human terms?
(LeftField) NancyL A
suggestion/request - could you ask the ZetaTalk webmaster to put a site
searchengine on the site please?
(S7L) LeftField: use the amazing powers of
Google
(Cmel) It is there LeftField
(NancyL) ZT to Havix: Castro has
enemies still, because he refused to reinstate the gambling and drug/drink
smuggling interests of the elite, who had located and found very useful the
island of Cuba.
(Willshell) S7L is right, Google works great
(Monk)
Leftfield: There is a search engine on zetatalk
http://www.zetatalk.com/search/freefind.htm
(Cmel) Can you tell Google only
to search on zetatalk.com?
(NancyL) ZT: Indeed, shouting that Castro needs to
be replaced is LESS due to the lifestyles and health of the people there, who
could benefit from simple trade restraints being lifted.
(Obany) Cmel:
yes
(Cmel) Ok
(Orion1) Why do people think Orions are bad?
(NancyL) ZT:
The shouting is from those who still hope to reinstate gambling, and THEIR
illicit trade routes, in Cuba, and are being frustrated.
(Cmel) I though only
Altavista had that possibility
(NancyL) End ZT to Havix
(NancyL) Terror,
they are special, sorry you are jealous.
(NancyL) NightBird, clearly the Z's
feel he is doing the right thing, yes.
(TerrorDactyl) Why the hell do people
talk about 'Orions', it is a man made constellation, not a real star system -
our sun is nearer to some 'Orion' stars than they are to each
other
(NightbirdTX) OK, Nancy, thank you for the answer
(N) Nancy: UFO
disks SINCE when on earth actually?
(TerrorDactyl) 'HOW' are they special
though
(Crispexi) N: since the time of Atlantis
(Crispexi) 12,000 years
ago or more
(NightbirdTX) Highlander, have you read "Mutant Message Down
Under" great book
(Pegasi71) Terror: Spritually, I gather. STO's
(N) Oh
thx
(NancyL) N, I think UFOs have been around since before man was engineered
to have a conscious brain.
(Spanky) But MUGABE was in ZIMBABWE and the white
farmers there co-operate with this government.
(Orion1) Nancy, what do you
think about the Orion's?
(NancyL) Orion, what are the Orions? This is a
constellation.
(Cmel) Well Spanky at least they try to
(Torbj) As all
"noninfected" groups off people the know how to listnen to their
stomach´s!
(Tizza) Terror : they r special in one reason that they havn't
wained from the complete version of STO theme
(Kramark) What does Nelson
Mandela know of the coming pole shift?
(NancyL) Well, my last Q4 is about the
Russian space program, etc. Onto Q4..
(HighLandrer) Thanks NightBird!
:o)
(Tizza) Even with all our western influences imposed on them
(NancyL)
Q4: RUSSIA
(NancyL) 1. Soyuz is a rocket type used by the russians :) Can the
Zetas give any indications if the recent Soyuz rocket disaster, and the failure
of backup explosive bolts to go off on a recent shuttle liftoff are connected in
any way to the PX/Mars escape quarantine imposed by the Council of
Worlds?
(NancyL) ZT: We have mentioned that the US Space program, intent on
getting man to Mars so the elite can ride out the pole shift there, has been
sabotaged as a means of quarantine.
(NancyL) ZT: There are a number of
reasons for this, which we will list:
(NancyL) ZT: 1. The giant hominoids
from the 12th Planet, aka Planet X, are currently mining there in Phobos, and
mankind is quarantined from them at present.
(NancyL) ZT: This quarantine is
to allow mankind to have a balanced environment during their 3rd Density
decision making process, as the giants, more highly advanced in the past and
larger, intimidated mankind and upset this balance.
(NancyL) ZT: The
quarantine also applies to the SURFACE of Mars, where remnants of their
lifestyle exist. To the extent that this looks like intelligent life, period, it
is allowed to be in the consciousness of mankind.
(NancyL) ZT: However,
discovering details that prove the LARGE and powerful size of these giants,
would not be allowed, any more than peeking at the inbound planet with probes
such as Contour.
(NancyL) ZT: 2. The elite on Earth, who are withholding news
of the likelyhood of a passage next Spring, are being deliberately thwarted in
their escape to force them to stumble, and in their desperation at some point,
blurt out the news.
(NancyL) ZT: A clean get-away would allow a tight
information outlet up to and through the end, but thwarted get-aways are very
good means of discombobulating the arrogant.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, ALL of
mankind, ALL members of the elite, are to be thwarted.
(NancyL) ZT: 3. The
giant hominoids are NOT going to move to 4th Density, along with the Earth and
its inhabitants, some 100 years hense after the pole shift.
(NancyL) ZT:
Coming aback at some future date, they will find collapsed cities, pollution
washed lakes, and bones of man.
(NancyL) ZT: They will also find a dim sun,
and having observed the dimming from afar, assume that the Sun died out, as they
do.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, their own progression toward spiritual maturity can
proceed without jealousy.
(NancyL) ZT: The means of preventing interaction
between these two cultures are many, but most notably include space programs
that meet with endless mechanical problems.
(NancyL) ZT: At times, the steps
taken by the elite are ALLOWED to occur, as this generates MORE frustration when
they hit another snag.
(NancyL) ZT: Fully frustrated efforts turn the elite
to brutality elsewhere, allowing once again the tight control over news we seek
to prevent.
(NancyL) ZT: Allowing success, after a frustration, only incites
them to try harder, and thus when the passage approaches and they are WITHOUT a
means of lifting off the Earth's surface, they dispair.
(NancyL) ZT: It is
then we hope that mankind will hear of the approaching passage.
(NancyL) End
ZT Followup?
(TerrorDactyl) Here's an ultra clear photo of Phobos - no mining
whatsoever?
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/mars/f854a81-3.jpg
(Cmel) Nice :(
, so we are not allowed to look our demise approach, and thus not allowed to
prepare? Yes there is a feeling of blame, having to be directed
somewhere.
(Samsara2003) Do the Annanaki harbor ambitions of returning to
earth during this pass, even though a quarintine has been
imposed?
(Willshell) Are there changes going on in our sun right now that are
related to the the sun's eventual transition to 4th density?
(ChiefSimi) Will
and/or when will the quarantine from these giants end? (Before the density
switch?) And also why did mankind have to wait so much time (several thousands
of years) before the Council applied the quarantine?
(Beta) Nancy - what
about Disappearing Satellites? Failures were supposed to be noticeable by now -
www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g44.htm
(Redeye) Will those humans who move to 4th
Density in the future, possibly become answerers of the call to the Annunaki
?
(Spanky) Will they go to anchored submarines? The elite
(Blip)
TerrorDactyl: they're inside the hollow part
(NancyL) Terror, they are mining
from the inside out.
(Jeremy) Interesting question Redeye
(Silk) For 3000
years?
(Jurian) Not to mention that image looks like a bad cut and paste job.
Someone needs to learn how to line up photo's
(TerrorDactyl) Its a montage of
3 photos
(S7L) Jurian: most astronomic images are cut'n'paste
(Jurian)
Look at the top middle
(S7L) And the resolution and lighting conditions do
not always match
(CyberVVizz) I thought you said the sun in 4th density was
dimmed, not that one of 3th
(NancyL) Sam, the Annunaki are like us, hominoid,
so yes, ambitions for sure.
(Monk) Question: So was the Soyuz rocket blown up
by it self or with help by others?
(Spanky) Are the Nordics from the dead
star/ 2nd foci? Is this why we and the Giant Hominoids look like
them?
(TerrorDactyl) What elements are they mining that is so rare on
PX?
(Samsara2003) Will Man be able to visit 4th density Nibiru or does a
quarintine also exists there?
(NancyL) Chief, the quarantine will not matter
when we, the Earth, shifts.
(Spanky) Sam: 4th density Nibiru has a reptillian
STS population.
(Jurian) TerrorDactyl: gold, I think?
(Cmel) Yep they says
gold
(NancyL) Cyber, they are going to leave a PART of Earth behind, and a
PART of Sun behind.
(Cmel) The story
(TerrorDactyl) It's a tiny rock,
clearly made of rock not gold
(NancyL) Monk, assisted.
(NancyL) OK, hour
is up, agenda finished, and I have some company that just came to the
door.
(Torbj) A HUG and a song to you, Nancy.."Det gååår en viind genom
vindens Ängar..." Love you, goodnight!
(NancyL) Must restrain my aggressive
Shepherd, who does not even like family!
(QueenVee) A big thanks to the
moderators, a very well run session
(NancyL) DOWN Max! Put on his
muzzle!
(NancyL) Gotta go! BYE
(MikeO) Nancy and Jurian and Jeremy and
Obany: Tonight's ZT worked great, and the Zetas presented is with valuable new
information. Thank you for tightening up the ZT-chat standards without resorting
to strongman tactics.
Session Close: Sat Oct 19 18:02:21
2002