Session Start: Mon Jul 08 02:56:15 2002
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<cmel> hi sap
<Sapphire> hey there
<cmel> nothings really happening here ;-(
<Sapphire> i see
<Sapphire> i was wondering if you could test something for me
<cmel> ok ... what
<Sapphire> i put up a poll on my site. Needed to see if it was functioning
<cmel> ok
<cmel> where
<cmel> ?
<Sapphire> www.sketpticalmind.com/zetatalk.html
<Sapphire> link to poll on left side of page
<cmel> is it up right now ??? my browser cant see it
<Sapphire> oh i mispelled
<Sapphire> www.skepticalmind.com
<cmel> thats better ... hehe
<cmel> just a sec
<Motivez> err.
<Motivez> The page works
<Motivez> I don't see a poll tho
<Sapphire> link on left
<Motivez> Ah yes I do
<cmel> where om the left ? ... top ... bottom ???
<Sapphire> bottom of links on left side
<cmel> ok
<cmel> what is the name of the link
<Sapphire> take the poll
<Motivez> I voted.
<Sapphire> cool, its working
<Sapphire> mentally ill
<Sapphire> need to fix the bar color though
<cmel> say the name of the link
<cmel> plz
<Sapphire> http://www.skepticalmind.com/pollpage.shtml
<cmel> but what is the links name ???
<cmel> I voted
<cmel> she's a con artist
<Sapphire> yeah, i see its working
<cmel> hehe
<cmel> good
<Sapphire> now i'll just refine the colors a bit..see if it stays working
<cmel> k sap
<Sapphire> see what the results are after a while--put up a better link of course
<Sapphire> thanks
<cmel> yes I bet that would be good
<cmel> np
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<Sapphire_0> wierd
<ukuz> y
<ukuz> ?
<Sapphire_0> got on twice, then one dropped off
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<ukuz> using two comp's?
<Sapphire> no, just one
<ukuz> oh one for logs?
<Sapphire> no, something just screwed up
<Sapphire> fine now
<ukuz> thought maybe referred PX as wierd...
<ukuz> :)
<Sapphire> that's the norm :)
<ukuz> although i wish someone could show some solid evidence...
<Sapphire> if PX is out there, it's out further than Nancy says
<ukuz> way further?
<Sapphire> well, nobody has been able to spot it yet
<Sapphire> i'm not sure how far out it would have to be to remain unseen
<Sapphire> given Nancy/Zeta size, etc.
<ukuz> interesting
<ukuz> she did say its picking up speed...
<Sapphire> Steve Havas's claims just confound me more everytime I read them
<ukuz> more?
<Sapphire> he claims he saw PX, but that doesn't fit with Zetas or regular astronomers
<Sapphire> I can't figure out if he has blind devotion to the word of Nancy or maybe he's in on the plan to sell books...
<ukuz> did he see it in nancy's location?
<Sapphire> he claims he did
<Sapphire> Nancy claims he did--contradicting her other statements about magnitude, distance, etc.
<ukuz> so how is it that it doesnt fit?
<ukuz> i see
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<[3j]> ok everyone, im back from my rooftop watch.
<ukuz> any calculation on the arrival time?
<[3j]> I *almost* thought i saw PX, but it was just some silly ufo
<agentY> 3j scoping out babes?
<agentY> 3j heh
<[3j]> no no
<ukuz> hehe
<[3j]> im watching for px on my rooftop ...
<agentY> yeah i know. i was j.k
<agentY> rooftop? of house or car? u a redneck?
<[3j]> house
<agentY> hehe ok
<[3j]> not much rednecks out here
<agentY> flat roof ?
<agentY> or angled?
<agentY> or dome!?
<[3j]> angled, but i have an angled sitting roofchair
<[3j]> so im all set :)
<[3j]> anyway all that watching during the day dehydrated me!
<agentY> :)
<agentY> roofchair?? u b ought that?
<[3j]> made it with spare computer parts agent
<agentY> hehehe
<agentY> spare comp parts!!?hehe
<[3j]> i must head to the store that has the beer now
<ukuz> Sapphire: Steve Hava give an arrival date?
<[3j]> need liquids
<Sapphire> he backs nancy's date
<agentY> ok
<Sapphire> he's not an astronomer
<ukuz> does he have a big scope?
<Sapphire> he claims to have viewed through an observatory in Vancouver BC
<ukuz> sticking his neck out i see...
<agentY> canucks don't own scopes
<agentY> :)
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<agentY> jk
<agentY> ._.
<ukuz> hehe
<agentY> (O) (O)
<agentY> \ /
<agentY> ----
<agentY> close
<agentY> (O) (O)
<agentY> \_____/
<Jenkins3d> ::::::::::::::::::::
<ukuz> only one computer running today Jenkins? :)
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<ukuz> Sapphire: where did you hear this?
<ukuz> got a link?
<Sapphire> which part?
<Jenkins3d> yup, i dont have a phone wire thing long enough to get to my 2nd phone line and the other one is in use and so is this one
<ukuz> about viewing
<Sapphire> all over sci.astro concerning Havas viewing
<Jenkins3d> havas?
<ukuz> yeah
<Sapphire> Steve Havas shavas7@hotmail.com
<Sapphire> Nancy claims he saw PX first
<Jenkins3d> oh, i get it
<Jenkins3d> did he get another viweing?>
<Sapphire> observatory in Vancouver has supposedly been closed since that time
<Sapphire> i don't know if that is true...couldn't verify
<ukuz> now why doesnt this surprise me....
<Jenkins3d> ohh..i should try, i think im kinda close to one
<Jenkins3d> if they let me in
<ukuz> its been said, you have to pull teeth to get them to do it
<Jenkins3d> i should try to contact a student at the university of pennsylvania and try to get them to do it
<Jenkins3d> i think they have an observatory
<Sapphire> you'll have to get newest co-ordinates from Nancy
<Jenkins3d> yeah
<ukuz> you may have to try after PX is out of the sun
<Jenkins3d> damn it all...some one esle can do it
<Sapphire> i think that's the point...no one is supposed to be able to do it
<Sapphire> Nancy won't give magnitude anymore
<Jenkins3d> whoo..headline on the tonight show from the newspaper in my area
<ukuz> whats it say?
<Sapphire> link?
<ukuz> Sapphire: how recent was Steve's viewing?
<Sapphire> hold on...i'll have to check
<Jenkins3d> a cynical parot was missing
<ukuz> parot?
<ukuz> :)
<Jenkins3d> parrot
<Sapphire> around March-April 2001
<Jenkins3d> same diffrence
<ukuz> the time frame seems right
<ukuz> any mention of photo taken Sappire?
<Sapphire> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/sight008.htm
<Sapphire> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/sight011.htm
<ukuz> interesting
<ukuz> this is a good one
<ukuz> wonder about that pole in the observatory tho...
<Sapphire> here's one directly from Havas
<Sapphire> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/sight010.htm
<Sapphire> My thinking is that he has created a work of fiction...not bad story telling
<Sapphire> except for the part about the telescope being "zoomed" into an area
<Sapphire> "zoomed" is the word Nancy/Zetas used on sci.astro long before Havas came along--and it's incorrect
<Sapphire> at least as far as telescopes go
<ukuz> zoomed, as in closeup?
<Sapphire> right, but telescopes don't have "zoom" controls like binoculars
<ukuz> ok
<Sapphire> they have a fixed focal length
<ukuz> i see
<Sapphire> the aperture determines magnification
<Sapphire> Nancy/Zetas had to learn this from sci.astro astronomers, which means they can't be super-intelligent beings
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<agentPX> hey all
<Sapphire> he
<agentPX> how ya doin
<agentPX> sap
<Jenkins3d> sooo sooo angry
<agentPX> ungry or angry?
<agentPX> just listening again to KB videos about PX, i'm gonna have to ask him the song he used in the movie.. hehe i liked it
<Jenkins3d> angry
<agentPX> why are you mad jek
<Jenkins3d> Geraldo Rivera calling what happened at LAX a terrorist attack
<agentPX> wasnt a terrorist attack :P
<Jenkins3d> and hes really sweaty
<Jenkins3d> on the tonight show
<agentPX> lol
<Jenkins3d> no..it was a dispute
<Jenkins3d> over some money
<agentPX> are you talking about the eguyptian guy who killed 2 pep ?
<Sapphire> oh, your on east coast
<Jenkins3d> yes
<Sapphire> spoilers for me here
<agentPX> j: oh well i read he was a fanatic and he killed them because he was a terrorist
<agentPX> but how can we know, lots of misinformation
<Jenkins3d> http://sg.news.yahoo.com/020706/1/309zl.html
<agentPX> lol
<Jenkins3d> if you watch it look at his arm pits
<agentPX> cmon!!!
<agentPX> THE GUY HAD 2 GUN AND ONE KNIFE
<Jenkins3d> soo..he had some problems
<Jenkins3d> and why did he go there to kill people, so many other places where jewish people are
<agentPX> possible.. how can we know.. maybe usa just dont want to put the population under the terror.. u know if less peoples take airplanes = less $$.. and your country is capitalist
<Jenkins3d> if that was the intent they would not be comeing out with these stupid terror warnings
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<agentPX> eh..
<agentPX> got to catch my bus
<agentPX> talk to ya later
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<Jenkins3d> These people who have never used computers in their life are going to shut down power plants by hacking into them!!
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<Jenkins3d> pretty spiffy crop circles near stonehenge http://www3.cosmiverse.com/news/beaten/beaten07080201.html
<ukuz> sort of looks like smoldering planet...
<ukuz> :)
<Jenkins3d> who here lives in canada?
<Jenkins3d> ok...no one i guess
<Sapphire> not yet
<Jenkins3d> yeah buddy...get me a ticket to Janet Reno's Dance Party
<ukuz> Sapphire, i wonder if that observatory is gonna get in trouble by big wigs...?
<Sapphire> no, Havas made most of it up it seems
<ukuz> you think so?
<Jenkins3d> when will this thing be out of the sun?
<ukuz> very late this year
<Jenkins3d> oh, thats right..
<ukuz> <NancyL> Steve Havas reports that the astronomers at Vancouver told him, way last
<ukuz> 2001, that the spot they were looking at would NOT be visible in the sky, GOOD,
<ukuz> until Dec, due to closeness to horizon.
<ukuz> from saturday session w/nancy
<ukuz> verbatum
<Sapphire> The Bush Administration stole the White House, and would rule the world, but are being countered by means they cannot counter.
<Sapphire> ZT cracks me up when they get into politics
<Jenkins3d> yeah...crazy stuff
<Sapphire> I think I'll start a page compiling just how political ZT really is.
<Jenkins3d> eh, zetatalk is doing very well though
<Jenkins3d> the site
<Jenkins3d> 27,592 out of the internet
<Sapphire> that's still a lot of hits
<ukuz> that amount could skyrocket late this year...
<Jenkins3d> that number is not hits
<Jenkins3d> it's ranking
<ukuz> oh
<Jenkins3d> and that is really good though
<Sapphire> yes, that's what I meant
<ukuz> <NancyL> And I fear that in early 2003, it will be difficult to carry on a lot of
<ukuz> Internet conversations, chats, etc.
<ukuz> :)
<Sapphire> when May 2003 comes, either way, traffic to ZT should sky-rocket
<Jenkins3d> all she has to do is turn the talk off and she has the whole thing
<ukuz> <NancyL> I suspect increasing media coverage, opportunities, but same time,
<ukuz> governments may close down the Internet (Arabia does now) and satellite failures,
<ukuz> etc.
<Sapphire> if we see heaven's gate scenario of some type it will make mainstream news...big hits
<Jenkins3d> i dont think anything like that's gonna happen
<Jenkins3d> at least it better not casue I cant get cable
<Sapphire> he he
<Sapphire> there's still time for Nancy to change the story a bit
<Sapphire> 2007, 2012, ...
<Jenkins3d> the thing is most of her predictions happen about 2 years later than they should
<Jenkins3d> if at all
<Jenkins3d> like the warm winter
<ukuz> el nino?
<Sapphire> like i said earlier, if there is truth to PX, it would seem to be further out than she is saying
<Jenkins3d> last winter was really warm
<ukuz> like a year further?
<Jenkins3d> didnt have anything to do with el nino
<Sapphire> Mark Hazlewood is already subtly changing his story to "3 more years"
<Sapphire> he is out selling Nancy
<ukuz> on what basis?
<Sapphire> posing emails claiming to be "inside sources" to NASA etc.
<Sapphire> "triple doctorate"
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<Sapphire> couldn't connect for awhile
<ukuz> wb :)
<Sapphire> did i miss anything?
<ukuz> no just Jenkins went to bed
<Sapphire> oh
<ukuz> Sap: why is Steve's story fake?
<ukuz> Nancy talked about his efforts this saturday
<Sapphire> steve asked Nancy what he saw when he went to the obervatory
<Sapphire> then Nancy said he saw PX
<Sapphire> now Steve swears he saw PX and no one can tell him otherwise
<Sapphire> yet Steve knows very little about astronomy
<ukuz> what about the operator there? didnt he know it was there?
<Sapphire> you have to read Steve's report
<ukuz> i did...the one you linked
<Sapphire> let me check...
<ukuz> ok
<Sapphire> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/sight009.htm
<Sapphire> that's his report
<ukuz> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/sight010.htm
<ukuz> second to last para
<[3j]> those are old though ...
<Sapphire> Havas : (a wink, a nod, a whisper that I did see it before)
<Sapphire> the stuff of fiction
<ukuz> maybe, but still seems a 50-50 possibility
<ukuz> :)
<Sapphire> yes, anything is possible
<ukuz> have you prep'd any yet Sap?
<Sapphire> i haven't made any plans to move
<ukuz> where are you now?
<ukuz> im in the middle of the Pacific
<Sapphire> Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
<ukuz> im visiting in nov
<ukuz> :)
<Sapphire> should be nice and cool by then
<Sapphire> it was 113 today
<ukuz> dang
<ukuz> what do you do on days like today?
<ukuz> 113 deg, is that normal for this time?
<Sapphire> get any business done before 11am
<Sapphire> stay inside rest of time
<Sapphire> yes, that's normal
<Sapphire> last year was 117
<ukuz> does it cool down at night much?
<Sapphire> 80 to 90 at night
<Sapphire> by september "normal" will be 80-85 during day and 70-75 at night
<ukuz> do you have central airconditioning?
<Sapphire> yes, everyone does
<ukuz> interesting
<Sapphire> sucks up a lot of electricity
<ukuz> about $200 a month
<ukuz> ?
<Sapphire> 200-300 depending how large the house
<Sapphire> but in winter we never have to use the heat, very rarely
<ukuz> i see
<Sapphire> so it balances out
<Sapphire> if Nancy's PX came to pass...
<Sapphire> no electricity makes this area unliveable
<ukuz> i guess here i Hawaii is not so expensive if you consider the climate
<ukuz> in Hawaii
<Sapphire> i know hawaii cost of living is higher than here overall
<Sapphire> but i've never been there
<ukuz> you should while the goings still good
<ukuz> :)
<ukuz> i traveled twice this year so far
<ukuz> lots of good deals too
<Sapphire> yes, i've thought about it
<Motivez> hii
<ukuz> Hi Motivez
<ukuz> well pending chores await me...see you all bye
<Sapphire> later
<Motivez> ciao
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<Motivez> Sapphire you need more options on your poll
<Sapphire> i was thinking of addding some more polls...since that one is already underway
<Sapphire> almost like a survey
<Motivez> I think you should have one for believers as well
<Motivez> If you believe, why do you believe
<Motivez> option1
<Motivez> option2
<Motivez> option3
<Motivez> (etc)
<Sapphire> yes, i agree
<Sapphire> i've got several ideas...haven't had time to compile all of them
<Motivez> As well as one about violence against Nancy if it doesn't come around
<Motivez> Since she asked IMO to post his address so when(if) this thing becomes visible people can punch him.
<Sapphire> i missed that
<Motivez> Scroll down on the last IRC session
<Motivez> very bottom
<Sapphire> that explains it, i fell asleep towards the end
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