Session Start: Wed Jul 10 12:08:10 2002
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<Pott> Loitus: Not unless you share!
<Loitus> heh
<obany> hi sapphire .. so you joined in to get more info for your site ?? :)
<Pott> Sapphire is cool
<obany> cause you like the way he think about zetatalk , that's why you consider him cool
<Loitus> nanny nanny poo poo
<Loitus> Sapphire me like the way you think about zetatalk... fire bad...
* Loitus begs all to herald Sapphire's coolness because of how he think about zetatalk!
<Loitus> heh
<sapphire> ooops, I was gone for awhile, now I'm back
<sapphire> I was hoping for an email from Nancy herself.
<sapphire> telling me I was in denial, etc.
<sapphire> but I don't suppose she would risk having it posted
<sapphire> she probably voted in my poll
<sapphire> that explains the bar at the bottom :)
<Loitus> uhh
<obany> why do you think so sapphire ???
<sapphire> I just found this on Google from Nancy.  It sure sums up my reason for doing the site:
<sapphire> To FAIL to issue a warning, which you KNOW is a
<sapphire> valid warning, is unconscionable.
<Loitus> ?
* obany will return a little later ... haircut
<Loitus> hmm
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<obany> back
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<bensigel> Hello !
<bensigel> Who speak hungary ?
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<obany> i don't
<obany> i can't speak hungarian
<obany> anyway brb
<sapphire> Anyone know what academic degree Z. Sitchin holds?
<oberdada> greetings
<sapphire> hi
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<Ogmios> is rense com good site?
<sapphire> interesting news items
<Ogmios> can i trust to it..a bit
<sapphire> you have to do your own thinking
<sapphire> by the way Sitchin holds a degree in Economics
<sapphire> not archeology
<obany> yes so..
<sapphire> so i was looking over some ZT and found :
<sapphire> "Zecharia Sitchin early on in his career as an archeologist... "
<sapphire> his only "career" is writing--8 books
<obany> and how do you know that for sure ... that he ain't a archeologist?
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<sapphire> because I'm not an archeologist
<sapphire> Sitchin is clearly an effective writer, he has that gift
<sapphire> but his oppinions on ancient civilizations are no better than mine
<Ogmios> you can talk sumerian?
<Ogmios> understand it?
<sapphire> ZT is "coloring" the truth by calling him by the credentials of "archeologist"
<sapphire> no, and neither can Sitchin
<sapphire> In the same vein, Richard Hoagland is an expert on NASA and the Apollo moon landings...because he said so
<obany> gee sapphire, by the way you talk you honor the name of your site
<obany> skepticalmind
<sapphire> yes, I am skeptical of PX scenario and ZT
<obany> well i ain't but you probably know that by now
<sapphire> oh yes...you saw the "players" page
<obany> yes i saw that page
<sapphire> hypothically, what will you have to say to Nancy if PX doesn't show up
<sapphire> hypothetically, i mean
<obany> well motivez kinda asked the same question... And right now well i don't think about about such questions ... or what to say
<sapphire> maybe just cut off all contact with her?
<obany> well as i said, i don't think about those questions. So i ain't go to answer them either
<sapphire> ok
<obany> and yeah i know i am part of your "research"
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<reticuli> hello people
<kb> hey reticuli
<reticuli> hows it going?
<sapphire> obany you write damned good English.  Is English taught extensively in primary education in Netherlands?
<kb> great you?
<reticuli> doing fine
<reticuli> tired though, I have not been sleeping well
<obany> sapphire: i learned English at school yes
<sapphire> obany: i was wondering if it was taught in the first 6 grades, or just highschool and college?
<kb> reti later
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<obany> we don't have highschool and college here .. but i could kinda say i learned it at highschool.. but since some years younger children also learn english at school ... "primary school" in the last 2 years for what i know ... or the last year
<reticuli> hey saphhy, whats up?
<Ogmios> started to learn english at school when i was 10
<reticuli> is there a topic in here today?
<sapphire> reticuli: not too much
<obany> But i can say that most dutch young people, speak English in a good way
<sapphire> obany: do you learn "British" english or "American" english.  I found that most europeans learn "British" english.
<obany> but my knowlegde of English also got better trough the years. And it has been a while since i stopped with shool
<obany> British English sapphire
<obany> Not US english
<sapphire> I ask because you use a good deal of American expressions
<reticuli> how old are you saphhy?
<sapphire> I think that American schools are inferior in that they do not promote knowledge of any other language than English until late Highschool or college and by that time the learning is very difficult
<Motivez> no real use for learning other languages =P
<obany> I learned German at school, but i wasn't any good at it
<reticuli> in the united states spanish should be widely taught
<sapphire> reticuli: 31
<Motivez> everyone else learns english
* Motivez shrugs
<reticuli> me2
* obany 31
<sapphire> Motivez: spanish
<Ogmios> go to france and try speak english there :P
<reticuli> lol
<reticuli> lol
<sapphire> omigos: yeah, i tried it.  it isn't well liked.
<reticuli> thats funny
<reticuli> im a francophobe
<sapphire> the french are very precise compared to Americans
<sapphire> they have little tolerance for our "notions"
<Ogmios> many english words are from french btw
<reticuli> aren't you 31 ogmios?
<obany> most are a bit arrogant, don't want to speak another language then French ...  
<Ogmios> no
<Ogmios> 29
<reticuli> yes, english is combination of of french and anglo-saxon
<sapphire> obany: yes arrogant, and slightly jealous that they are not the center of the western culture anymore
<obany> ogmios: i know, the English language has influence of the French language
<reticuli> most words in english that are more than five letters and are not compound words are from french
<sapphire> yes
<sapphire> original English is very very strange
<sapphire> sounds to me like norweigan
<reticuli> guttural
<reticuli> the angles and the saxons were from northern germany and denmark and invaded the british isles in around the 4-5th centuries
<reticuli> even today, english grammar is almost identical to norweigan, swedish, danish
<sapphire> in any case, I hear more spanish than anything else now days
<obany> okay, i will return a little later
<sapphire> USA will be spanish language dominant if trend continues
<reticuli> yes, spanish should be taught in the US widely
<sapphire> it is, but not until highschool
<sapphire> i had 3 years
<sapphire> but, much easier to learn and be fluent if you are younger than 12
<reticuli> hablo espanol un poquito
<sapphire> yeah, just a little
<Ogmios> isnt chinese kinda important too..yet so many dialects
<reticuli> in the US?
<Ogmios> heh. if china conquers us?
<reticuli> :), then I imagine we will be speaking mandarin
<sapphire> biggest hurdle to chinese...no western characters
<reticuli> the characters are not dependant the spoken language saphhy
<reticuli> they are ideograms
<sapphire> ahh, but people who can speak a language but no write a language are still considered "illiterate"
<reticuli> the characters have no phoenetic value
<reticuli> they could just as easily be used here
<reticuli> and we could continue to speak english
<sapphire> problem then...internet functions in western characters
<reticuli> there are alternatives to latin keyboards
<reticuli> in fact, ideograms would be far more effcient as a means of interner communication
<sapphire> possible, as "icons" are already on your desktop
<Pott> Wow
<Pott> I was trying to beat DOOM2 on Ultra-Violence mode
<Pott> Hard as hell
<sapphire> i tried to run DOOM2 in XP, but it crashed out.  Didn't like the DOS mode.  That level was impossible.
<sapphire> hard to get used to no "mouse-look"
<sapphire> back then it didn't matter, of course
<Pott> sapphire: Download Doom Legacy
<reticuli> ogmios, as someone who does interner searches all day long as part of my job I would have to say that, per capita, the finns must be one of the most online countries in the world
<Pott> Atleast it has 3D Accelertion =)
<sapphire> really, I'll have to search for that version
<Ogmios> true reticuli
<sapphire> Are they wired with broadband?
<reticuli> is it because of the harsh climate?
<Ogmios> no
<reticuli> social isolation in the winter...?
<Ogmios> just high tech
<Ogmios> hmmm distances maybe
<Ogmios> few cities
<Ogmios> big country
<reticuli> yes
<Ogmios> finland is very high tech country also
<reticuli> have any of you seen a ufo?
<reticuli> are there many ufo sightings in finland ogmios?
<Ogmios> few
<Ogmios> not so many
<reticuli> have you heard of sonera ogmios?
<Ogmios> a company
<reticuli> yes
<Ogmios> http://fi.soneraplaza.net/
<reticuli> they own 25% of my company's stock
<obany> soneraplaze even operates or operated in the Netherlands
<Ogmios> ah
<obany> not anymore ...
<reticuli> are they a large company?
<Ogmios> not even close to nokia
<Ogmios> if nokia falls. finland falls
<Ogmios> its giant
<sapphire> that extreme?
<Ogmios> yes
<reticuli> I did not know Finlands GDP was so dependent on Nokia
<Ogmios> its true now..
<reticuli> wow, their stock has really tanked on NYSE!
<reticuli> in the last two years
<reticuli> how many finns are employed by Nokia?
<Ogmios> no idea..
<reticuli> looks like about 23,000
<Ogmios> http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/english/teollisuus8.html
<reticuli> "Almost no one speaks during a Finnish bus ride"
<reticuli> sounds like heaven
<reticuli> :)
<reticuli> there is nothing worse than listening to some banal banter on the bus
<reticuli> the worst is people jabbering about nothing into their cell phones on the bus
<Ogmios> wood and paperindustry, ships. important exports
<Ogmios> ppl are quite different. depending in what part of finland you are
<Ogmios> eastern ppl are far more talkative
<reticuli> interesting
<reticuli> do the karelians speak finnish?
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<reticuli> hi jacob
<obany> hi jacob
<jacobswel> Hi, still trying to get hang of this program
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<Ogmios> back
<reticuli> hey, did you get my question about Karelia?
<Ogmios> yea karelians in finland speak finnish
<Ogmios> eastern karelia belongs to finland
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<reticuli> I guess I was wondering if there were finns in the republic of karelia?
<Ogmios> karelian language is close to finnish..what they speak in russia
<Ogmios> not many anymore
<Ogmios> stalin moved ppl from somewhere else there
<reticuli> so is there a distinct karelain language, or is it a dialect of karelain?
<reticuli> sp
<Ogmios> distinct
<reticuli> ic
<Ogmios> after the war 400k karelians had to leave
<reticuli> stalin was such a saint
<Ogmios> yes
<obany> ogmios: Finish is altaic right... large language family
<obany> Turkish is also part of that language family
<Ogmios> finno ugrian..finnish,estonian, hungarian..dozens of other
<reticuli> I was under the impression that finish was fairly unique
<Ogmios> we came from ural mountains :)
<reticuli> i know of the connections to hungarian, turkish, etc, but I thought those connections were fairly tenuous
<Ogmios> ural mountains were safeplace during poleshifts..
<reticuli> where are you going to go in may obany?
<Motivez> bbl
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<obany> mmm i kinda was mistaken ... ogmios finish is uralian
<Ogmios> The origin of Finns is still subject to a lot of discussion; the traditional theory is that Finns emigrated from the Urals to Finland some 2,000 years ago.
<Ogmios> dunno why?
<obany> Sweden is the best choise for those in Europe for what i know so atm Sweden
<reticuli> I heard someone make a claim on the radio that the finnish language was simmliar to sumerian
<sapphire> Jurian went to sweden?
<obany> telia.com ain't a dutch company... but if you wonna know i think you better ask him yourself ..
<reticuli> http://www2.4dcomm.com/millenia/lang.htm
<sapphire> ok
<sapphire> he still works for same isp then
<obany> ogmios: http://hyl.edu.hel.fi/sivut/comenius/fi/finfact.html
<Ogmios> thanks
<obany> http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=nl&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=finns+history+&lr=
<Ogmios> wasnt northpole somewhere around scandinavia
<Ogmios> few poleshifts ago
<[3j]> were there any poleshifts in the past?
<reticuli> many
<[3j]> yeah..
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<loitus> Hey now.
<reticuli> hey then :)
<loitus> ;)
<[3j]> im confused though. some geo people can get ice samples from greenland for example, and they can see it goes back tens of thousands of years
<reticuli> whats confusing about that
<[3j]> but then on the other hand, some geo people say that there are tropical fossils in the same place
<[3j]> whats confusing reticuli, is that its contradicting
<[3j]> wheres the poleshift if ice accumulated for only 10,000
<reticuli> well theres a physical pole and a magnetic pole
<loitus> I have a pole
<[3j]> i'm talking about physical
<[3j]> everyone knows the magnetic pole is always moving
<loitus> I have a physical pole
<[3j]> so the problem is, how can there be any pole shifts if ice is that old !!  and then why are others finding stuff that could only be in tropical climates
<reticuli> yes, thats a good quetion for the zetas
<[3j]> lol
<reticuli> ;)
<loitus> (0_0)
<[3j]> you dont really believe aliens are talking through nancy do you
<reticuli> who me?
<[3j]> ya
<reticuli> i have an open mind
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<loitus> Of course.. Nancy is our leader... Nancy is our messenger.. The Zetas will save... The Zetas are our savior!
<agentPX> 3j: no not really
<obany> 3j: did you read this http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p146.htm ?
<[3j]> ahh
<reticuli> cool
<[3j]> not yet, ill check it out now
<loitus> The site updates in 5 days! yippee
<Ogmios> zetas wont save us..
<loitus> I was kidding...
<agentPX> obany: yeah thats true.. we know we had at least 3 pole shift since earth exist
<reticuli> what about you ogmios, do you think zetas talk through Nancy?
<loitus> Poor Earth...
<obany> and here ... http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s72.htm
<Ogmios> feel like they speak. yea
<reticuli> thanks obany
<[3j]> hmm
<[3j]> so in the past the south pole there was no land mass there?
<[3j]> that wouldnt be possible..
<reticuli> why not?
<reticuli> there is no land mass at the north pole
<Ogmios> but was earlier
<Ogmios> ice age was 10000 years ago..
<Ogmios> was it becouse of north pole was in scandinavia?
<obany> for what i read yes
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<reticuli> hey obany and ogmios, do you have chemtrails in europe? have you seen then?
<Ogmios> havent seen
<Jenkins3d> i have some nice pics of them over my house
<reticuli> where do u live jenk?
<obany> for what i know i have never seen them
<Jenkins3d> Pennsylvania
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<Jenkins3d> i can upload some of them...
<reticuli> cool
<reticuli> does anyone know if headaches are associated with chemtrails?
<Ogmios> weather causes me headaches
<Ogmios> low pressure
<obany> not sure , but for what i read people got ill or so because of those chemtrals
<reticuli> well, I guess seattle was hit a few days ago, And I have had a headache for a few days, I never get headaches
<[3j]> there was hundreds of the chemtrails out here
<reticuli> is low pressure usually associated with heat ogmios?
<[3j]> for a few days in a row
<reticuli> were is here?
<obany> mmmmm
<[3j]> phoenix
<[3j]> no one got sick though
<[3j]> asides from a cold i think
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<Ogmios> yes heat..often
<Jenkins3d4> photoshop is messes up....ill have them up in a few minutes
<reticuli> have either of you heard of any chemtrails reportd in europe?
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<obany> i haven't ... for what i know ...
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* obany goes now bye goodnight take care sleep well
<Jenkins3d4> ok...i got it
<Jenkins3d4> http://www.geocities.com/willpeopland/ct
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<obany> plenty of them so i see
<Jenkins3d> yup
<Ogmios> good night obany sleep well
<obany> anyway bye now and take care
<obany> thnx ogmios you too
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<ukuz> Hello\
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<reticuli> how do I send a .jpg in mIRC?
<agentPX_Aw> http://www.nature.com/nsu/020708/020708-12.html
<reticuli> does anyone know?
<agentPX_Aw> right click on a user
<reticuli> hi ukuz
<agentPX_Aw> dcc/send
<reticuli> ok, im sending you a .jpg
<agentPX_Aw> connection failed
<reticuli> damm corporate firewall!!!!
<agentPX_Aw> yepo
<agentPX_Aw> yep
<agentPX_Aw> probably because of your firewall cause i can send
<reticuli> yes, I got yours
<reticuli> crap, this pic is totally funny
<agentPX_Aw> what was it
<agentPX_Aw> ?
<reticuli> its an art bell logo
<agentPX_Aw> maybe you can put it on a website6
<agentPX_Aw> ?
<reticuli> hmmm, perhaps, I dont have one though
<reticuli> http://www.geocities.com/eschatologer/classic_tan.html
<reticuli> ok, here it is
<reticuli> hehe
<agentPX_Aw> hehehe
<agentPX_Aw> cool picture
<reticuli> thought i'd share ;)
<agentPX_Aw> is it art face ?
<reticuli> yes! ;)
<reticuli> :)
<agentPX_Aw> haha very funny...
<reticuli> later
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<Pott> Hey
<[3j]> hey pot
<[3j]> you green?
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<butch> hello all
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<ukuz> hello
<[3j]> hi ukuz
<ukuz> Hi 3j
<ukuz> :)
<ukuz> did you receive any email about "third secret of fatima"?
<ukuz> anybody?
<agentPX_Aw> no
<agentPX_Aw> http://www.koin.com/webnews/20022/20020709_cropcircles.shtml
<ukuz> AgentPX, what does that resemble to you?
<ukuz> :)
<agentPX_Aw> hehe
<ukuz> actually this one looks homemade huh?
<ukuz> notice the semi circle line not so even?
<agentPX_Aw> lol maybe..
<agentPX_Aw> i dont know if i believe in crop circile
<agentPX_Aw> circile
<agentPX_Aw> circle
<ukuz> :)
<agentPX_Aw> look at those one
<agentPX_Aw> reported last weeks
<agentPX_Aw> http://cropcircleconnector.com/2002/Normanton/Normanton2002a.html
<ukuz> now that circle looks like a PX warning....  :)
<ukuz> hehe
<agentPX_Aw> hehehe
<agentPX_Aw> yeah.,.
<agentPX_Aw> did you read this article
<agentPX_Aw> http://www.sundaytimes.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,7034,4646637%255E401,00.html
<agentPX_Aw> (Rapidly melting glacier in Italy)
<ukuz> interesting
<agentPX_Aw> yep..
<ukuz> notice the relation with mars glaciers melting?
<agentPX_Aw> well it can be i dont know..
<agentPX_Aw> lots of things melting..
<agentPX_Aw> maybe the sun?
<ukuz> yeah
<ukuz> sun + PX
<ukuz> :)
<ukuz> is Nibiru suppose to be the Brown Dwarf or a planet orbiting around it?
<ukuz> anyone?
<ukuz> reason for asking is Annunaki suppose to live on a smoldering planet?
<ukuz> ever get the feeling you were talking to yourself?
<[3j]> no no ukuz
<[3j]> px is nibiru, according to zeta
<[3j]> also according to zeta, nibiru is a brown dwarf but is also an ocean covered planet
<ukuz> but isnt it a Sun?
<[3j]> no its not a star.. brown dwarves are failed star
<ukuz> is it suppose to heat up as it interacts closer with our sun?
<[3j]> no
<ukuz> arent the wings that suppose to appear on nibiru caused by fire?
<[3j]> i dont know about any wings
<ukuz> know what i mean?
<[3j]> but its supposed to have a trail of debris, like comets do...
<[3j]> which is weird, if those debris been stuck in orbit around nibiru, youd think it would of landed on px by now after all of these 1000's of years
<ukuz> i keep hearing "Smoldering Planet" so i would think its glowing hot....
<ukuz> (uninhabital)
<ukuz> uninhabitable
<ukuz> :)
<ukuz> you know?
<ukuz> Sitchin says Annunaki came from the planet Nibiru...
<[3j]> yeah
<[3j]> sitchin doesnt believe PX is coming back so soon btw
<ukuz> a burning red hot planet?
<ukuz> ok
<ukuz> maybe they can handle superheated environments...?   :)
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<[3j]> maybe..
<[3j]> but consider the physics ukuz
<ukuz> hmm...
<[3j]> most elements reach a liquifying point at a low temp
<ukuz> hows that?
<[3j]> er gas
<[3j]> you know, burning up
<[3j]> so i doubt they can live in super hot environment, without the help of devices
<ukuz> wonder if thats why the talk of them mining for gold here before to keep their life sustaned...
<[3j]> according to zeta, they use the gold too keep there atmosphere existent
<Jenkins3d> to keep the heat in...
<[3j]> the anunaki people shoot gold molecules in there atmosphere so it stays intact while PX is so far away from the sun
<ukuz> interesting....but confusing  :)
<ukuz> hehe
<[3j]> hehe
<Jenkins3d> hehe
<Jenkins3d>   me http://www.geocities.com/willpeopland/me21m.jpg  
<ukuz> theyre suppost to have similar bodies like humans (flesh and bone), so I cant see living on a brown dwarf possible
<ukuz> :/
<ukuz> too hot
<Jenkins3d> nancy said they were "buff"
<ukuz> hehe
<ukuz> good one
<ukuz> :)
<Jenkins3d> she did...she said they were attrictive
<Jenkins3d> stupid spelling thing
<Jenkins3d> let me find it
<ukuz> but if they are flesh and bone then maybe they live on one of those moons around Plane X
<ukuz> maybe?
<[3j]> ukuz a brown dwarf is not in thermonuclear action
<[3j]> a brown dwarf is a celestial body that is short of the size of a star
<[3j]> rather, its a body that doesnt have enough mass to ignite thermonuclear burning
<ukuz> but why do they call it a "Smoldering" planet if its not at least partly Thermalnuclear?
<[3j]> i dont know...
<[3j]> where does it say smoldering?
<ukuz> let me see....
<[3j]> is it in zeta?
<ukuz> http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use90327.htm
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<[3j]>  Nancy Lieder wrote:
<[3j]> >> This inbound smoldering brown dwarf, located in 1983
<[3j]> weird
<ukuz> yeah...
<ukuz> hmm...
<[3j]> zeta claims also that PX is an ocean planet :)
<ukuz> a boiling ocean....?
<ukuz> :)
<[3j]> water evaps at 100
<[3j]> hmm celcius 100
<[3j]> forgot fareinheit
<SnookPoon> 212 f
<Jenkins3d> boils...not evaporate
<ukuz> i was being facetious  :)
<SnookPoon> boils 100 c
<SnookPoon> evaporates? even ice evaporates
<Jenkins3d> but an ocean would boil at a lower temp casue of all the salt
<Jenkins3d> but that would not be the case on the 12th planet
<[3j]> at 100c water will boil away
<[3j]> hence it evaps no?
<[3j]> i mean it turns to gas heh
<ukuz> probably instantly vaporize on a "smoldering " planet
<SnookPoon> maybe it.
<SnookPoon> opps!.
<SnookPoon> maybe its a fog planet
<[3j]> hehe
<[3j]> thats why we cant see it, we need fog penetrating telescopes
<ukuz> but Nancy said its a "smoldering" planet
<[3j]> its also written that its a ocean planet
<ukuz> meaning hot?
<[3j]> zeta is 100% lunatic bs :)
<SnookPoon> that's it! it's such a hot foggy planet that it glows red.
<[3j]> but has some truths im sure... hehe
<ukuz> maybe it glows red from the uninhabitable molten surface?
<[3j]> maybe its just red atmosphere
<SnookPoon> Is that what they say about it?.
<ukuz> well nancy says PX is a soldering planet and sitchin says the annunaki came from Nibiru...so are nibiruans superheated beings?
<SnookPoon> Get me up to date here. What is an Annunaki?.
<ukuz> those who came to earth during previous visits of PX
<[3j]> hehe anunaki
<[3j]> one time i saw a pic someone lady drew of a annunaki
<SnookPoon> Nancy calls them the Hominoids. Is that what you mean?.
<ukuz> i beleve so
<[3j]> looked like a jamaican drug dealer with christmas tree balls in the dreads
<ukuz> oh the Sumerian stone carvings?
<ukuz> :)
<SnookPoon> I saw that movie. It can climb trees, is invisible and lives on a tropical island some where.
<[3j]> just do a search for annunaki on google..
<[3j]> hmm
<SnookPoon> Sumerian have carvings? This is interesting! Where can you view a few on the net?
<[3j]> i bet the image search would bring up the pic
<ukuz> so my question is if Sitchin said the Annunaki came from Nibiru, and PX is Nibiru, then how can they live on a slow burning planet?
<[3j]> with devices to protect them
<Jenkins3d> you can get the book the 12th planet, it has them all in it
<SnookPoon> Good Question?
<ukuz> maybe...
<[3j]> but like i said maybe 6 times already ukuz, its supposed to be a water covered planet that is not smoldering
<[3j]> according to zetas newest updates
<[3j]> im pretty sure if i wasnt so busy id look up the exact page
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<a> The atmospheres of five of the planets and the Earth's moon are changing
<[3j]> the moon has an atmosphere?
<a> yes
<[3j]> tell me more
<SnookPoon> What planets and what atmosphere on the moon?It doesn't have one.
<a> When the United States landed on the moon in 1969, it found no atmosphere.
<Jenkins3d> where is the evidence they are chnaging?
<a> Since then, the earth's moon is growing an atmosphere that wasn't there
<a> before, made up of a compound that Dr. Dmitriev refers to as "Natrium."
<a> This new atmosphere is now 6,000 kilometers deep.
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<[3j]> ooh i remember
<[3j]> thats the secret USA terraformers :)
<[3j]> looks like our tax dollars are finally paying off
<Jenkins3d> right...
<agentP> The Martian atmosphere is getting sizably thicker than it was before
<Jenkins3d> i want proop that the moon is "Growing" an atmosphere
<Jenkins3d> besides this zeta said shit
<agentP> its from the RUssian Academy
<agentP> Russian National Academy of Science in Siberia in Novosibirsk
<Jenkins3d> you got a link or anything?
<agentP> RNASSN
<agentP> well
<agentP> it was post on  tt-watch
<agentP> very interesting
<agentP> they dont talk about pX
<agentP> just about the changes in our solar system
<SnookPoon> a or agentp do you live in Mexico and have aliens all around you all the time?.
<agentP> no
<agentP> thats Maximum_DJ
<agentP> im from canada
<agentP> :p
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<SnookPoon> Oh, so you know him. hmmm..
<[3j]> aliens all around me over here....
<agentPX> yep talked to him a couple of times... hes supposed to recorded it to me..
<[3j]> i've seen 2 ufos so far since i live here
<Jenkins3d> ok..there has always been an atmosphere on the moon
<agentPX> he says he see ufos each day
<Jenkins3d> "The Apollo program identified helium and argon atoms there"
<SnookPoon> Yeah, and there is probabaly just about every element that's here on earth on the moon.
<[3j]> if the moon is really there.
<[3j]> for all we know if could be a picture someone moves around by hand
<Jenkins3d> alcohol?
<SnookPoon> Ok! Ok! Do any of you really take this whole zeta and Nancy thing to be real?.
<[3j]> i have lots of doubts snook
<Jenkins3d> parts of it
<[3j]> but the PX thing, i dont know..
<SnookPoon> So what part of it bothers each of you the mosta as far as being beleiveable?.
<Jenkins3d> it's like anything that has to do with PX and the present and goverment is no good
<ukuz> except humanoids living on smoldering plant
<agentPX> > The glowing plasma at the leading edge of our Solar System has recently
<agentPX> > increased 1000 percent. That higher-charged energy is in turn exciting the
<agentPX> > plasma and causing more of it to form, so you see more luminosity, more
<agentPX> > brightness. This energy is then flowing into the Sun, which in turn emits
<agentPX> > the energy and spreads it out along its equatorial plane, which is called
<agentPX> > the Ecliptic. All this is happening all at the same time and it's all
<agentPX> > working up to a crescendo where there is going to be a sudden shift.
<[3j]> snook, the zetatalk.com political bias
<ukuz> (Plant?)
<ukuz> i mean Planet
<SnookPoon> What political bias do you see?.
<agentPX> who knows
<agentPX> probably not nancy more than us
<[3j]> snook, nancy enjoys to bash the current administration in everything she writes
<[3j]> however, there was no such bashing in the past admin
<[3j]> on zeta, bush inc is evil
<Jenkins3d> well he is
<Jenkins3d> but not for the reasons she gives
<SnookPoon> Well I voted for him and I see everyday that our rights are being taken away.
<SnookPoon> That concerns me!.
<[3j]> there isnt any politician that isnt evil
<SnookPoon> That's the truth!.
<Jenkins3d> Bush is driven by Oil
<[3j]> goverment by representation will always end up being corrupt
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<Jenkins3d> take out Bin Ladan becasue he'll mess with the pipeline that will go thought there
<SnookPoon> Both parites have the same agends in reality if you really sit back and think about what theere true objectives are.
<[3j]> it doesnt matter, its plain BS
<SnookPoon> It's first to take care of the request of the companies that got them where they are and second to gain more power and control.
<[3j]> the people have no power, our votes do not count
<[3j]> if some fool can pull the BS that got pulled in florida again....
<Jenkins3d> in a press interview, Ariel Sharon said not to worry about the US becasue we (isreal) controls the US and they know it.
<SnookPoon> Yeah, they do have power they jus don't know it
<SnookPoon> Any of you preparing for the pole shift?
<Jenkins3d> im not
<SnookPoon> Anyone else?
<[3j]> yup
<[3j]> i have a few cottages already
<[3j]> guns
<[3j]> hummies
<[3j]> gas
<[3j]> etc
<Jenkins3d> are you serious?
<SnookPoon> honnies? Sounds like fun!.
<[3j]> i wish
<[3j]> im not going to spend that much $ just because some alien says get ready
<SnookPoon> HumV I take it
<[3j]> 100K + just for a new one lol
<[3j]> with terrible gas milage
<Jenkins3d> they are too big
<[3j]> yeah but they are the ultimate sub
<Jenkins3d> if the stupid stock market wasnt so messed up i could get a m-benz M-class
<SnookPoon> The market prediction is sure coming true!.
<[3j]> suv
<[3j]> hehe the market is wacked
<SnookPoon> Buy gold mining stocks and you shall receive.
<[3j]> id prefer just buying gold bricks
<Jenkins3d> im not buying anything
<Jenkins3d> i might though...ill have to research gole
<Jenkins3d> gold
<SnookPoon> That works too...but there is an exponetial increase in the price of gold stocks as it rises compared to the metal.
<Jenkins3d> futures?
<SnookPoon> no. no! Don't mess with futures unless you know what your doing.
<Jenkins3d> yeah..you have any companys you like?
<SnookPoon> HL, DROOY, HGMCY, KGC, BGO they are all good companies....These are the trading symbols.
<Jenkins3d> i know....i invest
<SnookPoon> Good
<[3j]> heheh
<[3j]> " These are the trading symbols. "
<[3j]> funny
<[3j]> i think everyone knows that ;)
<Jenkins3d> what about goldcorp
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<SnookPoon> GFI?.
<Jenkins3d> or silverado gold mines
<Jenkins3d> GG
<SnookPoon> What is the symbol for silverado?.
<SnookPoon> GG is good.
<Jenkins3d> slglf
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<SnookPoon> No! No! SLGF is a penny stock.
<[3j]> you should buy those penny stocks
<[3j]> then spam about 10 million people "buy this penny stock!"
<[3j]> rich overnight :)
<Jenkins3d> er, i didnt look at the price...i looked at the gain today
<agentPX> eh
<SnookPoon> Stay away from that one. It's traded as BB stock and may not have real revenues, accounting, easily manipulated, ect..
<agentPX> anyone know about this:
<agentPX> Troubled Times makes a survival guide available for
<agentPX> FREE.  You only need to email/write to ask for one.
<agentPX> ?
<[3j]> free??
<Jenkins3d> im not a long term trader
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<Jenkins3d> im not really concerned with the outook for the company
<agentPX> 3j: oui
<SnookPoon> Who is these days. By and hold does not work any more.
<Jenkins3d> who do you invest with?
<SnookPoon> Yeah, but you never know when somone is going to sell out the bottom  and you could be stuck in the middle with no way out. No liquidty.
<Jenkins3d> do you invest using a web site?
<agentPX> HEY
<agentPX> there is a pool going on
<agentPX> ghehe
<Jenkins3d> pool?
<agentPX> yah
<agentPX> that sapphire made
<agentPX> poll
<Jenkins3d> oh, how do i get it
<agentPX> im reading the tt posts.. soo much freaks..
<SnookPoon> direct access broker.
<agentPX> ppl building somes house, people already selling all their material
<[3j]> the tt posts where at?
<agentPX> ppl moving..
<agentPX> lol
<Jenkins3d> wonder if anyone has killed themselvs yet
<agentPX> 3j : humm well you have to subscribe and you receive them by e-mail
<agentPX> and you can post
<[3j]> oh that one
<agentPX> Jenkins3d: probably not yet but if nancys is wrong probably yes :(
<Jenkins3d> and then people might try to sue but i dont see that going too well
<agentPX> hmmm
<agentPX> sue for what ?
<agentPX> lol
<agentPX> nahh you cant sue
<agentPX> would you sue the church because they are lying to you?
<agentPX> ..
<Jenkins3d> yeah but today there are soo many stupid suits
<agentPX> nah
<Jenkins3d> some parerns sued a school becasue their son failed
<agentPX> lol
<Jenkins3d> people sue for everything possible
<Jenkins3d> if someone spends their life savings, and quits their job, and basicly ruins their life becasue of what nancy said they might want to sue
<Jenkins3d> nancy has broken no criminal law but there might be some civil stuff that people will go after
<SnookPoon> we should know soon enough.
<Jenkins3d> ill talk to a lawyer tomorrow and see if there is anything
<Jenkins3d> did anyone see my contrails?
<SnookPoon> nope.
<Jenkins3d> http://www.geocities.com/willpeopland/ct
<Jenkins3d> grr...the third one links to the thumbnail
<[3j]> what part of the world you at jenkins?
<Jenkins3d> pennsylvania
<[3j]> weird
<Jenkins3d> why?
<[3j]> had the same thing out here in arizona
<Jenkins3d> oh
<[3j]> but much more trails in the sky though
<[3j]> i never paid it much mind because of the USAF base nearby
<Jenkins3d> yeah..i have started to notice only small parts of the trail are hanging around now
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<Maximum_D> hi people
<[3j]> hi
<Jenkins3d> i was watching a plane go by and the trail was going away and there was one section that stayed much longer than the rest
<agentPX> hey max
<SnookPoon> here we go
<[3j]> what are they
<Maximum_D> hey agent
<[3j]> bioligical agents meant to innoculate us?
<agentPX> whats up max
<Maximum_D> strange..floodings on texas now and here where i live agent
<Maximum_D> and it's summer..
<Maximum_D> lol
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<Jenkins3d> doubt it
<agentPX> eh
<Maximum_D> and summer means
<Maximum_D> 45C
<[3j]> i saw pics of the floods, it looked real bad
<Jenkins3d> most likely some expirememt to stop global warming
<Maximum_D> and have lots of water
<Maximum_D> gessh
<Maximum_D> who saw the yahoo ightlights..fossil founs..human ancestor..7 million years ago
<agentPX> me
<Maximum_D> nice news
<agentPX> nice discovery
<Maximum_D> yep
<SnookPoon> what crops do you grow down there max. besides good weed.
<Maximum_D> haha i bet discovery channel already doing a program about it
<Maximum_D> lol
<Maximum_D> weed..well here where i lvie not many..
<Maximum_D> it's semidesertic place
<Maximum_D> so summers are hot
<Maximum_D> 45C
<Maximum_D> winters are cold..-1 or -2 C
<SnookPoon> whats that in F.
<Maximum_D> but the strange things is that is raining
<agentPX> cool
<agentPX> do you have snow?
<Maximum_D> and we are in the middle of summer
<agentPX> (in the winter)
<Jenkins3d> i remember when someone made a fake missing link by bolting a monkey jaw on a human skull and scientists were really excited until they found out it was a fake
<Jenkins3d> and i think it took them a while
<Maximum_D> in winter..not snow..well
<Maximum_D> just..aquasnow
<agentPX> jnek: they discovered the human fossil 1½ years ago..
<Maximum_D> aquasnow
<agentPX> so i dont think its faked
<Maximum_D> lol
<agentPX> they waited to analyse it before reporting it
<Jenkins3d> yeah, i know...but i thought that was funny
<Maximum_D> well here things are going strange
<Maximum_D> fllods..on summer..
<Maximum_D> floods i mean
<SnookPoon> Normal Summer here in FL. Rain 3:00pm everyday.
<SnookPoon> you can set your watch by it
<Maximum_D> well but you are on a tropic place
<Maximum_D> here is semidesertic
<Maximum_D> so rain is like..mmm
<SnookPoon> sub tropic
<Maximum_D> few
<SnookPoon> you are further south than me max.
<SnookPoon> farther.
<Maximum_D> yes
<Maximum_D> but we are...let say like texas
<Maximum_D> the same stuff in texas (floods) are comming here
<Maximum_D> and texas too is semdesertic place
<Maximum_D> i mean.not all but most of it
<SnookPoon> Are you north Mexico, mid, or south
<Maximum_D> north east
<Maximum_D> it's a semi desertic place
<SnookPoon> near california?.
<Maximum_D> no..
<Maximum_D> other side
<Maximum_D> california is to west
<SnookPoon> oh OK.
<Maximum_D> easth
<SnookPoon> east.
<Maximum_D> just..mm lets say..under texas
<Maximum_D> san antonio is like 4 hours from here in car
<Maximum_D> where i live
<SnookPoon> above the yucatan.
<Maximum_D> gessh snook
<Maximum_D> yucatan it's to the end of mexico
<Maximum_D> it's tropical
<Maximum_D> the state i live is just after texas
<Maximum_D> down
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<Maximum_D> down texas
<Maximum_D> it's call nuevo leon
<Maximum_D> and the capital of the state is Monterrey..where i live ( 5 million)
<SnookPoon> big town.
<Maximum_D> yep
<Maximum_D> big city..
<SnookPoon> did you ever get that video recorder
<Maximum_D> no my friend who has the videocam is on vacation..so nobody is in his home
<Maximum_D> =(
<Maximum_D> i will try to find someone else
<SnookPoon> any recent troubles?
<Maximum_D> right now there are some entities bothering to my right side..
<Maximum_D> sometimes they flash
<SnookPoon> flash what?
<Maximum_D> the entities
<SnookPoon> they flash themselves at you?
<Maximum_D> yes
<Maximum_D> they do that like small flash
<Maximum_D> betweent white and dark
<SnookPoon> I'm sitting here listening to Art Bell and they are talking about crop circles over in england
<SnookPoon> I would love to see one close up
<SnookPoon> I don't what to tell you Max except to tell them to go away. I hatew that it's happening to you
<agentPX> yeah.. not cool max
<agentPX> arent anybody at home with you seeing them too?
<Maximum_D> you mean me agent?
<agentPX> y
<agentPX> yes
<Maximum_D> nop.i only see them nobody else
<Maximum_D> in my home
<agentPX> oh ok...
<Maximum_D> that's a good thing
<agentPX> have you told others people at yur hopme?
<agentPX> you are seing them
<Maximum_D> i mean..would be really scary if they see them
<Maximum_D> well only my mom
<Maximum_D> she knows about it
<SnookPoon> what did she say?
<Maximum_D> well..she says she understand
<Maximum_D> she imagine it is hard to see that
<agentPX> ok..
<Maximum_D> and it's hard
<Maximum_D> relaly it's very hard
<agentPX> i understand
<Maximum_D> there is another world really there
<Maximum_D> good guys..bad guys
<Maximum_D> nuetral
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