Session Start: Sat Jul 13 11:25:03 2002
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<gap_mouthed> hi, folks
<nephesh> Hello
<gap_mouthed> i did some creative this day..
<gap_mouthed> a sort flash demo
<gap_mouthed> i made
<gap_mouthed> but don't know if it is conform ZT
<gap_mouthed> http://members.lycos.nl/webhtml/theory.swf
<STO_WARRIOR> hey gap, are you a web designer?
<gap_mouthed> SO, DON'T TRUST IT
<gap_mouthed> sort of
<sirgrim> coo
<RayC> hi
<sirgrim> hi
<STO_WARRIOR> so has anyone seem S7L of late?
<sirgrim> After a firestorm of protests against the U.S. position from its closest allies, the council approved a revised resolution by a 15-0 vote after Mexico, a strong supporter of the court, reluctantly agreed.
<sirgrim>
<sirgrim> The document tells the new International Criminal Court to allow a 12-month grace period before investigating or prosecuting U.N. peacekeepers from countries that are not in support of the tribunal "if a case arises."
<sirgrim> woah
<sirgrim> that ain't good.
<RayC> in other words don't be a US UN peacekeeper...
<RayC> they blame everything on us anyway...
<RayC> now they got a reason to worry
<RayC> Personally I no longer have any use for the UN.
<[3j]> UN is all about globalization anyway
<RayC> and elite control...
<[3j]> when really at this point, all americans should be focused on americanization
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<gap_mouthed> I may have found a photo of a real baby zeta...intrested??
<[3j]> its a fake, look at the head and the position of the label
<gap_mouthed> Well, could
<obany> there are a lot of fake pictures on the web... i have visited several ufo sites in the past .. and there is a lot of "crap" on the web.. And most sites all look the same, use the same info etc etc
<Freax> the internet is crap
<Freax> crap crap crap
<gap_mouthed> internet...yeah , everyone can publish ... even me!!! hehe
<Freax> to it's undoing =D
<gap_mouthed> but i didn't publish that photo , believe me
<Freax> uhuh =D
<RayC> oh oh I gotta go. bye
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<loitus> Yo wuttup dogs.
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<obany> hi tallboy
<Freax> bye tallboy1
<Freax> im the tallboy here! coming in at 6.7feet!
<[3j]> einstein said were all short, and what appears to be big people is all relative
<loitus> You are a freak
<[3j]> 100 years past a pole shift, people will believe that
<[3j]> hehe
<[3j]> pole shift would truly suck
<loitus> Nah
<[3j]> oh yeah it would
<loitus> Nah
<[3j]> life expectancy drops
<loitus> Nah
<[3j]> no more power
<loitus> Nah
<[3j]> and everyone tranforming into aliens? wtf
<loitus> Nah
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<dwander> so where's the downside?? :)
<loitus> Exactly
<[3j]> huh
<[3j]> you want to die young, have no power and see your kids born as aliens?
<loitus> Yup
<[3j]> why?
<loitus> Why not.
<[3j]> longer you live the more you learn, power allows humans to be much more efficient
<[3j]> as for transforming into aliens, i guess its a personal choice..
<loitus> Nah
<[3j]> you make a very good point loitus
<loitus> Word
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<natas> hi all
<natas> anyone seen X yet?
<loitus> Yup
<natas> really
<natas> at the coords on ZT?
<loitus> Yup
<natas> any pics?
<loitus> Nope
<natas> when did u see it?
<loitus> 5 mins ago.
<natas> really....WOW...where are u in the world, im UK
<loitus> NJ, USA
<natas> between Taurus and Orion?
<loitus> brb
<natas> k
<Jurian> anyone play hyperiums ?
<obany> no Jurian .. i don't
<Jurian> you should :p
<Jurian> its cool
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<LE_RENARD__> http://us.geocities.com/openmindxx/OutOfSun.htm
<Jurian> hi to you too
<LE_RENARD__> for all of u who believed that stupid claim
<[3j]> someone pasted that earlier
<LE_RENARD__> well u should read it
<[3j]> is it a new site looking for traffic or something
<[3j]> hehe i did
<loitus> Hehe.. banned bum
<[3j]> i jsut shows pictures of the sky and where zetas coords are at
<obany> motivez passed it overe here
<[3j]> just
<LE_RENARD__> yes, and where its not planet x
<loitus> yes, and where its not planet x --- nice grammar
<[3j]> its a picture of the sky le renard...
<LE_RENARD__> english its not my first language
<loitus> I never would have guessed...
<[3j]> couldnt someone also look at it and say, hmm theres no such thing as the moon?
<LE_RENARD__> loitus then shut up
<Jurian> the moon? hah, that's just a light moving around the horizon :p
<loitus> Make me, nanny nanny poopoo
<LE_RENARD__> very stupid claim of you, [3j]
<[3j]> le renard, tell me how those pictures prove there is *no* PX
<loitus> Le_renard: What is you nationality?
<Jurian> french probably
<[3j]> renard t'est francais
<LE_RENARD__> why dont you go to the url i pasted and read it for yourself?
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<[3j]> i did this morning and I did again just now, and let me quote
<loitus> Oh, it's just the frenchman
<[3j]> "CONCAM cameras which allow anyone with a web browser to see the night sky above a number of observatories."
<[3j]> night sky ..
<loitus> night sky ..
<[3j]> just tell me how it proves theres no px
<Jurian> hmm, you on satellite LE_RENARD__ ? :)
<loitus> Fox
<[3j]> px = supposedly cant see yet without magnifying glasses
<loitus> heh
<Jurian> ecuador
<LE_RENARD__> [3j]: the coord are out of the sun, anyone with a decent scope should be able to see it by now, wich hasnt happened
<LE_RENARD__> cause theres no planet x
<LE_RENARD__> chao
<[3j]> hmm
<loitus> Le_renard: Get a life... if you don't believe then go..
<Jurian> that's a pretty dumb statement
<Jurian> it is not visible, if it exists
<[3j]> someone on sci.astro should write a tutorial for people who have no clue how coords work
<Jurian> but saying it doesn't exist, is dumb
<dwander> no need to believe, but also no need to disrupt
<Jurian> exactly
<loitus> Yes, that's what I meant..
<Jurian> I agree the existance of px is extremely doubtfull tho
<Jurian> it should have been long visible on images by now
<LE_RENARD__> and what will u do if by 2003 , theres no planet x on sight?
<dwander> as described in ZT it sure seems unlikely
<[3j]> keep on doing what i always do: hide in my dome and eat rice
<loitus> I will take part in a mass suicide directed by nancy
<LE_RENARD__> i bet u will feel pretty stupid
<LE_RENARD__> for believing that old hag
<loitus> Yup
<obany> loitus: well such a thing won't happen ... a mass suicide
<Jurian> I will have a good laugh, and go back home
<sirgrim> hey le renard
<sirgrim> i've examined that picture
<sirgrim> interesting
<Jurian> however, how will YOU feel, if there IS a planet X in 2003?
<[3j]> hehe
<sirgrim> i feel there's a planet x in that picture he's plasted.
<[3j]> "woops i should of believe that old hag!"
<LE_RENARD__> sirgrim thats cool
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<sirgrim> like she stated it's still infared, out of the sun's light
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<LE_RENARD_> There be no planet x in the space
<sirgrim> i've found it with image processing, i'll post that image 'enhanced' in a minute.
<sirgrim> she said 'look around'
<sirgrim> you almost drew the line over it.
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<loitus> im a dumb sheep, following my leader, nancy
<Jurian> actually
<Jurian> you're just a lamer
<loitus> my life is empty, i need to be part of something special....
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<Jurian> who's intent on being annoying
<Jurian> and you know
<zetarian> hello take me to your leader
<Jurian> I can be lame as well
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<dwander> plenty of X, Y, Z planets out there...not that it matters
<zetarian> hah i didnt know you could do that jurian
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<Jurian> I can :p
<Jurian> that, and much more
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<loitus> so, nancy got an ircop in her sheep list
<[3j]> i meant i didnt know you were ircop
<Jurian> no
<LE_RENARD__> Little do you know, stinky boy, I am not personally a believer or a disbeliever because I do not see evidence anywhere that gives me reason to sway either way, I sit neutral and wait and until then keep educated on the topic.
<Jurian> I'm an admin actually, this is my network
<[3j]> cool
<loitus> fear Jurian
<STO_WARRIOR> yes, he is someone to fear
<loitus> you dood should get out of irc a bit more
<[3j]> its a small network ;)
<[3j]> highest count 125 clients !
<LE_RENARD__> dood
<LE_RENARD__> poop
<STO_WARRIOR> jurian, has S7L been around?
<sirgrim> hey le retard
<sirgrim> check this
<sirgrim> http://www.wagd.com/newpxpicture.jpg
<Jurian> seen STO_WARRIOR
<FunBot> STO_WARRIOR is on the channel right now!
<Jurian> uh
<Jurian> seen antti
<FunBot> antti was last on IRC channel #Troubled_Times 18 days, 6 hours, 24 minutes ago.
<Jurian> nope
<Jurian> hehe.. le retard :D
<Jurian> go grim! go grim!! :D
<loitus> lol sirgrim
<STO_WARRIOR> seen S7L
<FunBot> I don't know who S7L is.
<[3j]> grim i dont see anything
<loitus> hahaha
<loitus> man ur really nut
<sirgrim> it's image enhancement, not image recreation
<sirgrim> it's the best you can do.
<sirgrim> we arn't nasa here
<STO_WARRIOR> seen god
<FunBot> Let's not get into a religious discussion, STO_WARRIOR
<sirgrim> the rest are clearly stars
<sirgrim> but what's that
<Jurian> seen your mother get it on with loitus
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<FunBot> Let's not get personal, Jurian.
<Jurian> sorry :p
<[3j]> all you did was pixelate the area
<loitus> lol sirgrim
<sirgrim> hehe
<sirgrim> sure
<loitus> yes man, definitivly u show px there
<sirgrim> works for richard hoagland
<sirgrim> cept i probably used a better machine
<STO_WARRIOR> richards my hero
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<sirgrim> hmm
<sirgrim> i'm working on the other picture
<sirgrim> there's the same circle.
<obany> mmmm
<obany> finished yet sir ?
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<Pott> Some picture
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<charles57> hello
<agentY> hi
<agentY> no. i was walking up steps from subway, hot chick with miniskirt in front of me. then she jogged up a few steps, and i could see right under her miniskirt...no panties !!!! bare ass !!!
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<agentY> hehe
<IceCubes> heh
<dwander> cool...
<agentY> which i knew bitches who were hungry for cock.
<agentY> wish
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<dwander> if any are, hopefully they'll use the Bobbitt method of satisfying the hunger...
<Loitus> That's my fave..
<agentY> preferably the suck till u pass out method
<Loitus> I don't feel like moving
<agentY> eh.
<Loitus> Yawn
<dwander> zzzzz
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<agentY> hehe
<agentY> reddish balls
<agentY> how bout blueish balls?
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<agentY> fuckers
<Angelic> yup
<Angelic> sirgrim is an idiot
<Loitus> Yes he is
<agentY> hehe
<Loitus> He just banned me from zetatalk for no reason
<Angelic> he dare not kick my ass or he will get banned here
<Angelic> banned?
<Loitus> Yes
<Pott> Anyone for Tetrinet?
<Pott> The session is blah
<Loitus> He won't even explain either..
<sirgrim> you can't act respectable for 1 hour, you can read about it on the zetatalk page
<Loitus> Sirgrim: What did I do to insult Nancy???
<Angelic> well I could ask obany to op me there, but the last time I got op there from jurian sirgrim began to cry and yell at me that i was some hoar and did not deserve op status
<sirgrim> you didn't insult nancy, you insulted the integrity of a chat that is trying to remain professional
<Angelic> sirgrim you are an idiot
<Loitus> Maybe a warning next time???
<agentY> what did i do either!!
<Loitus> jesus..
<sirgrim> we warn.
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Session Start: Sat Jul 13 18:50:03 2002
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<Angelic> hi sapph
<sapphire> i got disconnected during the ZT session. Can you send me log?
<sapphire> i was asleep
<Angelic> hehe
<Angelic> my log has to be edited it has some private chatstuff in it
<sapphire> oh, ok
<sapphire> mine logs private chats in different logs
<sapphire> i got the first part of it. saw Nancy on mission to attatck sci.astro guys
<sapphire> IMO as NASA agent
<Angelic> hehe as always
<Angelic> well i did not follow everything, the nice thing what I did see, well 'nice' actually more like in a funny hilarious way, that she said she had met Al Gore and that Gore was very comfortable with aliens around him.. and Bush runs out of the room hehe
<sapphire> wish i had caught that
<Angelic> I now
<Angelic> know
<sapphire> looks like Pott was kicked for showing an ip address?
<Angelic> ah you have a log?
<Angelic> sapph, sirgrim kicked many
<sapphire> it only covers until first ZT
<Angelic> he is an idiot, I banned sirgrim from this channel
<Angelic> for today, he prolly be here tomorrow hehe
<mIKe_vALLEy> cya ppl!
<mIKe_vALLEy> [[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
<Angelic> bye :)
<mIKe_vALLEy> :))
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<[3j]> hi
<[3j]> im reading the #zetatalk log
<ukuz> 3j, do you know how long before todays log gets posted on ZT?
<[3j]> no idea
<[3j]> i can email you the log though
<[3j]> 190kb file
<sapphire> i could use the log
<[3j]> ill zip it and put it on www then
<[3j]> 1 second
<[3j]> http://www.inethighway.com/zt/ztlog.zip
<[3j]> you'll have to scroll down because it logs prior to the meeting
<[3j]> but there are interesting things to read prior to the meeting (nancy was there mouthing)
<Angelic> sapphire
<Angelic> http://62.108.14.70 there is the log
<sapphire> i just got it
<Angelic> ah hehe
<Angelic> you made me do the work for nothing thanx
<sapphire> 3j pre-empted
<Angelic> hey 3j how are you?
<[3j]> good
<[3j]> its funny how nancy prior to the meeting is so busy making IMO look like some fool
<[3j]> for a STO person, it seems contradictory..
<ukuz> sorry i stepped away 3j...
<Angelic> hehe 79 kb zip
<[3j]> raw and unedited :)
<ukuz> thanks :)
<Angelic> :) cool, I had the log but i came in when she started on Q2
<[3j]> [14:31] <NancyL> In any case, if I am wrong, and by December NASA is not explaining "what it is" as so many see it, then I can be found and burned at the stake.
<[3j]> so december!
<[3j]> bad news in time for xmas..
<Angelic> lol
<Angelic> or after xmas, knowing her
<[3j]> [14:32] <NancyL> WHO is IMO!
<Angelic> 3j, you should know better :) Nancy has said many things :)
<[3j]> over and over its so anoying
<[3j]> IMO lives in georgia
<Angelic> ehm
<Angelic> atlanta yes
<[3j]> well his ISP his there
<Angelic> :)
<[3j]> whois his IP on arin..
<Angelic> atlanta
<ukuz> isnt this person the one with the telescope?
<Angelic> yeop
<ukuz> :)
<[3j]> yeah he has a scope, hes also the one who supposedly doctored images
<Angelic> she lost credibility due to his photos, now she tries to regain the lost credibility by making IMO look bad
<ukuz> oh...
<Angelic> she isn't being a grown up about it, cause if the photos are doctored then she should not constantly be so upset about IMO ;)
<Angelic> just leave it there, say they are doctored and go on
<Angelic> she isthe one who knows better, she doesn't act like it
<Angelic> maybe because she feels found out?
<sapphire> i should do an IMO promotion on the front page of my site...to provoke
<Angelic> should go well with the interview ;)
<sapphire> thanks to 3j, at least I can tell from his log that i wasn't kicked
<sapphire> just connection fail
<sapphire> he he
<Angelic> hehe
<Angelic> I will have an interview with you sapphire by the end of this year :)
<Angelic> is that ok with you?
<sapphire> interview?
<Angelic> yes I'm also working on a site, for quite some time
<sapphire> ahh
<Angelic> it's not ready, not up.. will be, then you can have one if you want!
<sapphire> ok, what will be the slant on your site?
<Angelic> objective
<Angelic> no slant
<sapphire> from the inside, so to speak?
<Angelic> just this is this side, that is that side
<sapphire> debate about PX?
<Angelic> no use in doing what you are doing
<[3j]> hmm
<Angelic> debate is ongoing on other forums
<Angelic> no use in doing that
<[3j]> yeah what happened in #zetatalk i think i got kicked
<Angelic> you did?
<[3j]> i dont see why its closed
<ukuz> were you talking sex again 3j?
<ukuz> hehe
<Angelic> 3j your log is incomplete?
<[3j]> i was taking a nap
<sapphire> looks complete to me
<ukuz> oh
<ukuz> hmmm
<[3j]> yeah its complete
<sapphire> it ends after Nancy quit
<Angelic> ys
<[3j]> [14:36] <Michaellss> im lookin now with my $150 scope...:)
<[3j]> hehe ;)
<Angelic> cute
<[3j]> i wonder if you can see it wht a scope like that
<sapphire> Nancy says Al Gore is Starchild...
<sapphire> figures
<[3j]> prolly something I would get myself
<Angelic> no he is not
<[3j]> al gore starchild ?
<Angelic> fucking bullshit
<Angelic> yeah well, it is!
<[3j]> notice since gore started showing up again, all of this US corp scandals..
<sapphire> I sense Nancy is VERY angry that she voted for Al Gore and Bush "stole" her election
<[3j]> typical of those in democratic parties to spread "dirt" to undermine there opponents
<sapphire> that's why ZT turns hard core Bush bashing afterwards
<[3j]> the bush bashing turns me off completely
<Angelic> sapphire, imagine the entire usa listening to Nancy..... that's scarier than them listening to bush I say!
<ukuz> it could happen
<ukuz> :)
<Angelic> lol
<sapphire> i have imagined...right before i started on my site
<sapphire> she actually only needs a small percentage --5% would be enough to bring it all down
<Angelic> all what?
<sapphire> organized society
<ukuz> can you imagine? CNN Headline News: We have just learned about PX being sighted world wide ...and now here to explain is Nancy Lieder...
<Angelic> sounds simliar to organized crime but different
<ukuz> hehe
<sapphire> L.A. riots were a billion dollar disruption back in early '90s. Started by like .0005% population of L.A.
<Angelic> ukuz, they won't get nancy on cnn, they will just get some from nasa and the one who sighted it if ever
<[3j]> hehe
<[3j]> so imagine a country wide problem
<ukuz> perhaps
<ukuz> :)
<Angelic> sapphire, stupid police fault hehe
<sapphire> Nancy has potential still to cause major disruption to western society
<sapphire> she's not dead yet
<sapphire> so to speak
<Angelic> 3j Nancy wasn't responsible, who said that again this day?
<[3j]> [14:39] <NancyL> In Salem days, the story goes, you were dunked into water and 1. if you drown you were NOT a witch, 2. if you survived, you WERE a witch and then were burned at the state. <-- this was a medieval age (very-pre colonial days) practice
<[3j]> wasnt it?
<[3j]> nancy just mouths off about stuff
<[3j]> why is it i always see something wrong with her stuff !
<[3j]> hehe
<sapphire> actually, you NEVER survived the dunking.
<ukuz> hmmm guilty untill proven dead
<sapphire> you were underwater for quite some time
<sapphire> the burning at stake was a seperate thing
<Angelic> just shows a witchhunt is useless
<Angelic> right ;)
<[3j]> what ive read is that the accused was thrown in water with weights..
<[3j]> if they sunk = not a witch, if they floated = witch
<Angelic> no, they were dunked
<ukuz> i wonder if Nancy would be considered a witch in those days
<[3j]> they imagined that the "devil" would "save them"
<sapphire> there were probably variations but the one I know of : you were place on the end of lever which was lowered into the creek
<[3j]> hehe yeah obviously variations
<Angelic> there is also a version where they wer eput into a big bag of cloth with heavy stones and thrown into the water
<sapphire> heard of that too
<ukuz> were they tarred and feathered too?
<Angelic> nancy said drowing is quite painless
<sapphire> yes, but the most traumatic
<[3j]> LXII = 72 right
<sapphire> 62 i think
<[3j]> lxxii
<sapphire> yeah
<sapphire> <NancyL> Bush admin VERY bad for folks, evil in fact.
<sapphire> it never stops...
<Angelic> you seem to quite like bush or is that a false presumption?
<[3j]> bush is the pres..
<sapphire> <NancyL> Rudy, we've beaten the Bush Admin to death (don't I wish :-)
<Angelic> 3j what are you saying?
<[3j]> its normal to like Bush, he is the president
<sapphire> no, i don't like bush...just find Nancy has gone politically insane
<Angelic> agreed
<Angelic> sapph
<Angelic> 3j, no, he's the pres so he is liked hmmmm must be american
<sapphire> i think most of her motivating anger now must be coming from bitterness over last election
<Angelic> weird :) for us europeans
<[3j]> just for the record, who tried to steal the election :)
<sapphire> i'm surprised she didn't have ZT address the Ryder trucks along the Florida highway and say there were manipulated
<[3j]> interested in your opinions hehe
<Angelic> tried?
<[3j]> im talking pre-inauguration, so there is still no president, so its all in the air
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<Angelic> well this political crap is too american for me, so party hardy FOLK we're nolonger in the wild west bye ciao goeienavond bien veneu auf wiedersehn cruscot
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<ukuz> i heard a psychic on ArtBell say that Bush would come around in the later part of his term
<[3j]> come around to what?
<ukuz> think it was Sean David?
<ukuz> to what ever has him by the strings...i suppose
<ukuz> (err cut hs strings)
<ukuz> he's in delfhi associates
<[3j]> [14:43] <agentY> no. i was walking up steps from subway, hot chick with miniskirt in front of me. then she jogged up a few steps, and i could see right under her miniskirt...no panties !!!! bare ass !!!
<[3j]> lol !!
<ukuz> hehe
<[3j]> ukuz, that would be interesting too see a gov figure, like the president, come out and point fingers at a controlling elite
<[3j]> many doomsday prophecies, as interpreted say the church (catholic) will be destroyed, however what if the interpretations are wrong and the "church" really means USA, hmm!
<ukuz> i think that was the jist of it 3j :)
<[3j]> [14:53] <NancyL> ZT: Observatories, as space exploration, requires the staff and astronauts to be under a National Security Oath, or similar committement in other countries.
<[3j]> why do i have a feeling that pure BS
<sapphire> complete BS
<sapphire> if you have the cash you can build whatever observatory you want
<[3j]> yeah no kidding
<ukuz> thats why the gov seems to always help fund such projects
<ukuz> :)
<sapphire> govt. funds such projects because they are lobbied
<sapphire> and govt. is seen as a good source
<sapphire> not because govt. wants to get involved
<ukuz> seems they would have the last say if the funded projects
<sapphire> depends if the scope was built with "grant" or it is a continuous lease of land or such
<ukuz> interesting to see if these permits to erect facilities have gov limitations in them...
<ukuz> you would think they do for national security purposes
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<sapphire> that info is probably available on the net
<ukuz> maybe
<sapphire> but there are so many facilities in private hands, foreign hands. To insinuate that they are all under umbrella of CIA etc. controll is ridiculis
<sapphire> that is why i say ZT is "grand conspiracy"
<sapphire> most evidence is supported by further conspiracy theories
<ukuz> did you hear of the scientist involved in creating germ warfare?
<ukuz> i heard theyre history
<Jenkins3d> you mean the people that created the Polio virus from scratch?
<[3j]> [15:09] <NancyL> ZT: First, as the chief planetary polluter, the supposed cuase of Global Warming, they excuse themselves from the Kyoto Treaty.
<[3j]> wtf
<[3j]> kyoto treaty would of been unprofitable and would of hurt the US while everyone else gained
<sapphire> yes
<ukuz> not sure which Jenkins
<[3j]> signed by some dude who prefered getting BJs than running a country
<[3j]> [15:16] <NancyL> ZT: US Corporations are held is disgust, worldwide, and the revealations just STARTING.
<[3j]> as if US corporations were goody two shoes prior to 2000 ...
<Jenkins3d> what the hell are you talking about 3j
<ukuz> maybe the ZTs meant they are at the lowest
<[3j]> jenkins, im just reading the log
<[3j]> and its infuriating me
<[3j]> :)
<sapphire> Nancy feels her vote didn't count in the 2000 election, so Zetas must extract revenge
<sapphire> All must be blamed on GOP
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<Jenkins3d> well really they deserve most of the blamne
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<Maximum_D> what jenkins?
<Jenkins3d> oil grabing enviroment ignorant bastards it the way i see them
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<sapphire> everyone has to blame someone...
<Jenkins3d> The US needs some revolutionary socialism
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<[3j]> as if drilling in the north, with all the MILLIONS of enviromental policies and standards to adhere too, would hurt the environment..
<ukuz> i dont know enough about conspiracies, only theories
<[3j]> and the elections, did people already forget all the lawyers gore had, and the memos on how to stall the election results
<[3j]> or the fact that only 3k or so ballots where miscounted or something, while 5k people signed afidavits that they were duped in voting for bush?
<ukuz> you know if we were in a communist country they'd be at our doorstep by now
<ukuz> hehe
<Jenkins3d> umm, Bush had just as many of thoes, and he had memos on how to through out as many votes as possible
<[3j]> funny that never made the news
<[3j]> but i guess the media is controlled by right wing activists
<sapphire> this is becoming like Fox News :)
<Jenkins3d> what the HELL are you talking about...i think you should at least be informed before you talk
<sapphire> or maybe CNN Crossfire...
<[3j]> or how the democrats said "the republicans they are rioting outside the recount houses!"
<[3j]> right wing rioters: dentists, cpas, lawyers
<[3j]> real thugs
<[3j]> the funny thing is though
<[3j]> no one care that the green party guy wasnt even allowed to be on the debates.
<Jenkins3d> they were doing it becasue they had the lead and they wanted it to stay that way, they knew that it could somehow be turned over to gore
<ukuz> all i can say about our gov is im glad im on this side of the fence :)
<ukuz> heh
<Jenkins3d> Did you know that the goverment is banckrupt?
<ukuz> Like countries in debt?
<Jenkins3d> no, the US goverment is broke
<[3j]> is there any country that isnt in extreme debt?
<[3j]> look at canada, there debt climbs up millions of dollars per second
<Jenkins3d> there is a diffrence between broke and in debt
<[3j]> lol
<[3j]> the gov cant get bankrupt
<sapphire> as long as everyone still believes in the currencies, things keep chugging along
<[3j]> not the USA
<Jenkins3d> yes it can\
<Jenkins3d> why cant it?
<Jenkins3d> but the us dollar continues to loose value every day
<[3j]> Al Gore, Speilberg <-- star childs ????
<sapphire> yeah, funny
<[3j]> let me guess.. next week barbara steisand too ?
<sapphire> just thinking that....
<[3j]> speilberg, ok its a little believable
<[3j]> he does make real good movies
<[3j]> not an easy thing to do :)
<ukuz> folks i gots to do my chores...Cia for now :)
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<Jenkins3d> so can i get a reaon why the US goverment cant go broke?
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<Spanky> anyone awake?
<sirgrim> yup
<Jenkins3d> yes...
<sapphire> yes
<Spanky> ok which sci-fi aliens do the zetas remind you most of (based on actions not appearances)
<sapphire> the US government isn't broke yet. My checks from the CIA are still cashing.
<Jenkins3d> that means nothing....it's like a giant Ponsy sceme ...i think thats the right term
<Spanky> its spelled ponzi
<Jenkins3d> the money your getting from them goverment is just the mosey people put in for taxes and bonds and other stuff
<Jenkins3d> and the goverment has taken almost all they can from every program possible
<Spanky> yeah the repubs want to cut and destoy everything.
<Spanky> even nancy said they were STS
<sapphire> yep
<sapphire> evil
<Jenkins3d> "Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner's report that will lead to our demise."
<Jenkins3d> Speaker- Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House
<Spanky> www.rackjite.com.. its better than zetatalk :)
<Spanky> both had me up until 3 for a week or so
<sapphire> i thought we cleaned up the Traficant thing a while back
<Jenkins3d> lol..I've got the peferct plan: President Rush Limbaugh First Lady Dr. Luara Secretary of Defense Charleton Heston and the NRA All domestic and foreign affairs would fall into the hands of the KKK,
<[3j]> nancy says gore knows... but after being asked a whole bunch of times (by difrerent people) why gore isnt talking, she just avoids the question
<Jenkins3d> gore knows what?
<Spanky> gore would be killed. he does not need to be president to be asassinated. remember Robby?
<[3j]> so he would be killed after speaking?
<Spanky> maybe he would not be killed, but his credibility would.
<[3j]> all he needs to do is say I have speech about my political future, and all the press will be after him. He can just say whatever then and there
<sapphire> "they" wouldn't have to kill him. He would be shooting himself
<Spanky> the repubs are writing history right now, in a way
<Jenkins3d> WHAT DOES GORE KNOW?
<Spanky> gore knows from a "maybe" standpoing
<Spanky> standpoint
<[3j]> yes but if hes such a STO he would want to help others by getting the message out to the millions who are unaware of anything zeta
<[3j]> nancy says gore allowed zetas to help him, nancy said gore is friendly with zetas
<Spanky> clinton seems more STO than gore, who may have just sparked.
<sapphire> Gore is unaware of Nancy or Zetas
<Jenkins3d> that is kinda funny
<[3j]> [15:46] <NancyL> DavidS, one of the meeting with Gore, who as VP was an MJ12 member, was after his leg injury, a cast/splint
<[3j]> gore mj12 ??
<Spanky> maybe governors know too.
<Jenkins3d> yes..they are know about the Zetas
<[3j]> [15:49] <NancyL> UPM, Gore is STO big time. Bush is an undecided puppet, in my opinion. VERY weak person. <-- service to others big time
<Jenkins3d> god..do you beleive this stuff?
<Spanky> i mean, put your self in clintons shoes. Women who try to initiate an affair will raise a WORSE ruckus if refused.
<[3j]> oh yeah... He refused to sleep with me! and i have no proof and no dress
<Spanky> paula had no proof...
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<[3j]> here it is..
<[3j]> [15:42] <NancyL> Calne, this is an educated guess. Yes, HATE the Bush family, and have met Gore and he at least is comfortable with Zetas. Bush Sr. runs from the room, being uncomfortable with STO presence! <-- gore comfortable with zetas
<[3j]> hehe
<[3j]> then someone asks where nancy met gore
<[3j]> the paste i did above, followed by this:
<[3j]> [15:47] <NancyL> He allowed the Zetas to float him, to spare his leg, and this was amazing to others who distrust aliens.
<Spanky> 3j, did nancy mention bill clinton?
<sapphire> Nancy is politically insane
<Spanky> truth is stranger than fiction.
<[3j]> not that I've read yet
<[3j]> im almost done scoping the log though, so doesnt look like it
<Spanky> ZT is a better waste of time than say, christianity or star trek
<[3j]> havent seen star trek in a while..
<[3j]> have you seen the new series, enterprise?
<sapphire> yes, no Zetas in there
<Spanky> yes. and in enterprise, the vulcans take the role of the Zetas
<[3j]> ah
<Spanky> the wise spiritual advisors who are "right in our backyard"
<[3j]> i havent seen one episode yet
<sapphire> Except Zetas not here to help us
<Spanky> in Star Trek, there is a cataclysm that puts us back in the stone age
<Spanky> ww3
<[3j]> well you can see the prelude in the motion picture
<Spanky> and then Zefram Cochrane, a former area 51 scientist, is left with the people who were truly interested in getting the technology to work
<[3j]> ah area 51
<[3j]> doesnt say that in the movie
<Spanky> their survival camp builds a makeshift warp drive and this shows up on everyone's sensors from a few light years away.
<Spanky> in that case, the movie would have been as long as LORD OF THE RINGS
<sapphire> The documentary of Nancy might be that long
<[3j]> yea which one was it..
<[3j]> resurection?
<Spanky> the vulcans, who are logical-minded nerds, show up and set an example for us humans.
<Spanky> First Contact.
<[3j]> yeah
<[3j]> i got all the star trek movies nearly, and now you giving me the urge to pop one in..
<[3j]> i need to get the TV movie ones, especially the TNG
<[3j]> with the borg, those were real good
<Spanky> watch the DVD in the tiny window but don't go away.
<sapphire> i have them all in divx format
<[3j]> hmm
<Spanky> maybe if vulcans=zetas, then plieadeans=betazoids.
* [3j] checks ftp
<[3j]> well hehe
<[3j]> i have some episodes i can download ;)
<Spanky> the vulcans needed an antidote fast and surak began the religious movement of logic and pacifism
<Spanky> much like what the Zetas did.
<Spanky> or rephrased..
<[3j]> so vulcans were not all logical at first contact?
<Spanky> the vulcans needed an antidote to their endless wars fast and surak began the religious movement of logic and pacifism
<Spanky> sound familiar..?
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<sapphire> going to the shower
<Spanky> gene roddenberry may have been exposed to top-secret things surrounding mj12 and his curiosity was the basis of the call.
<sirgrim> !listbans
<grimbot> There are currently no bans.
<Spanky> you trying to ban me?
<[3j]> [16:06] <cybervvizz> A lot of people on the net pretend they are, or at least their mediums pretending they are talking Words from Him
<[3j]> reminds me of how revelations claim there will be so many false prophets
<Spanky> 37% of this chat room were star children, remember?
<[3j]> sirgrim, did someone kick everyone out of #zetatalk ?
<[3j]> about 30 mins after end of session my log ends, hmm
<Spanky> paraphrasing the tigger song...
<Spanky> the wonderful thing about zetas, is that zetas know everything
<[3j]> the wonderful thing about tiggers?
<[3j]> hehe
<Spanky> their heads are the size of basketballs
<[3j]> well spanky sapphire brought up good points about zetas and how they are actually pretending to know everything
<Spanky> and they can bounce like springs.
<Spanky> the wonderful thing about zetas, is they have gigantic eyes, they say that during 2003 that everybody dies
<Spanky> the wonderful thing about zetas, is that their predictions are right. they talk about the 12th planet, but it's so hard to sight
<Spanky> <NancyL> ZT: and the most wonderful thing about tiggers, is that i'm the only one.
<Spanky> <NancyL> ZT: and the most wonderful thing about zetas, is that i'm the only one.
<Spanky> this channel is so silent that Bob is loud by comparison
<Spanky> what date was gore mentioned on
* Spanky has been playing with the search engine for a while and has found nothing
<[3j]> doubt there will be much reference to zeta / tiggers online..
<[3j]> but you can always try google
<Spanky> no i mean the chat where she mentioned gore's mj12 adventure
<[3j]> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22zeta%22+%2Bbounce+%2Btiggers
<[3j]> hehe i guess there really is a relation
<Spanky> heh, they are talking about catherine zeta jones.
<[3j]> catherine zeta, disney, pooh and tiggers
<Spanky> no i meant search in the zT internal engine for what you were saying about gore.
<Spanky> and as for the tigger crap, the zetas can jump ten feet (they use some bird physiology to survive their gravity)
<Spanky> and they supressed their sexual nature by supressing puberty, so they act like kids somewhat (think Yoda)
<[3j]> hmm
<[3j]> well there was a recent article detailing puberty and how important it is to evolution
<Spanky> the zetas would die without their technology
<[3j]> i wonder why the zetas want humans to become like there race
<Spanky> but they see good points in OUR race
<[3j]> my email question to nancy (<nancy@zetatalk.com>)
<Spanky> and remember, a bunch of NEW 4th density souls would function poorly without a mentor.
<Spanky> and that is why races merge.
<[3j]> > 4- On the Art Bell show, nancy mentioned a hybrid program. Is this transformation MANDATORY for all humans? I plan to help my children and neighbors through the shift, but to change into another lifeform, I don't like that idea. Can the zetas explain more about this and why it would be required?
<[3j]> No, not mandatory, but as explained in Hybrid section, this will occur eventually. You live your life, you die, what your children do, re having human children, is up to THEM.
<[3j]> ok myu opinion: I DO NOT WANT TO SEE MY KIDS GIVING BIRTH TO FREAKY ALIENS
<[3j]> thank you :)
<Spanky> and we are a a bunch of stupid piglike troglodytes to the zetas, based on appearances.
<[3j]> yeah
<[3j]> its silly why being transformed into zetas, when nancy herself has pointed out on the zetatalk site that there are other races... carpet man, beattle man, etc
<Spanky> hybrids would look like anime characters to humans.
<Spanky> the zetas are 37 light years away. in intergalactic terms, we are one of the Zetan moons.
<[3j]> hehe nah
<[3j]> were "moon" of the sun ..
<[3j]> but whatever moon we are, humans dont belong to zetas period
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<ukuz> hi
<Pott> sup
<ukuz> Hi Pott, how was the session..i only got to read the later part of it
<[3j]> Enterprise.101.Broken.Bow.VCD-WoW
<[3j]> wow :)
<sapphire> nancy went wild on Bush/Gore thing
<ukuz> 3j, i still need to unzip that log you posted
<ukuz> was it from the ZTs?
<ukuz> or from her
<sapphire> from her
<ukuz> could be biased you think?
<sapphire> she still can't accept 2000 election, very angry about her vote being "stolen"
<sapphire> reflected in ZT since then
<[3j]> no the log is not from her
<ukuz> i dont suppose she doesnt understands the electorial vote process?
<sapphire> this time around she says she "hates" bush family
<[3j]> the log i have is the raw IRC log I have of the #zetatalk channel
<[3j]> it will show the TIMES people spoke and joined the channels
<ukuz> ok
<ukuz> :)
<ukuz> thanks
<[3j]> and it will show any questions or disinfo that nancy might decide to remove
<sapphire> raw logs are superior
<[3j]> (if she does remove anything.)
<ukuz> has she done that?
<ukuz> in the past, i mean?
<[3j]> no clue, but it would benefit her
<sapphire> on occassion she has removed rants from "disruptors"
<[3j]> on the other hand it wouldnt benefit me :)
<[3j]> hehe well i didnt remove nothing
<ukuz> you mean rude remarks and such?
<sapphire> i post her logs, and raw logs on my site for side-by-side comparison
<[3j]> whats your site?
<sapphire> www.skepticalmind.com/zetatalk.html
<[3j]> oh yeah skepticalmind..
<[3j]> forgot :)
<ukuz> thanks Sapphire
<ukuz> this should be interesting
<sapphire> rude remards are sometimes "rude" only if Nancy doesn't feel like responding to them
<sapphire> depends on her mood
<ukuz> maybe so she can cut to the chase instead?
<sapphire> the "chase" today was her persistant obsession with discovering who IMO is
<ukuz> or just avoid answering key questions all together?
<sapphire> she sticks with her pre-made agenda most times
<ukuz> kind a makes one wonder, dont it?
<[3j]> hehe
<ukuz> i see your point
<[3j]> then she started accusing that guy anon as being IMO
<[3j]> which was a terrible thing for her to do, it just shows everyone how much she doesnt know ..
<ukuz> so Imo is trying to discredit her?
<[3j]> its like a leader saying "i dont know what to do next"
<sapphire> IMO is I M Openminded from sci.astro
<ukuz> interesting
<[3j]> yeah i know
<ukuz> a skeptic?
<sapphire> skeptic turned dis-believer
<ukuz> wow
<sapphire> amateur astronomer
<ukuz> so the session seemed to get silent toward the end?
<sapphire> at first Nancy praised him for taking pictures of the sky of her coordinates, now she calls him part of the conspiracy against her
<[3j]> she first praised IMO ?
<ukuz> is this what you all was talking about him altering the photos?
<sapphire> she thanked him for "catching" her planet, and tried to twist his statements to fit her agenda
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<ukuz> her agenda being to accuse him of altering the photos?
<sapphire> her agenda being to facilitate the fantasy that there is an approaching PX
<ukuz> i see
<ukuz> what was her reason when IMO didnt see any PX?
<ukuz> did she say?
<sapphire> can't remember her first statements concerning this
<ukuz> i guess it must have got pretty fierce
<sapphire> now he is part of conspiracy to cover-up PX
<sapphire> along with Tholen, Bob Officer, Sarah MC etc...
<[3j]> yeah IMO prolly just said there was nothing there
<sapphire> basically
<[3j]> who are those other people? tholen?
<[3j]> there not on your zeta page are they..
<sapphire> other astronomer/amateur astronomers on sci.astro
<ukuz> well I want to know if any of you still think it might be there after all this?
<sapphire> i think sirgrim if he's still here
<[3j]> ukuz, i dont deny the possibility, but im not selling the house and kids on nancys word ..
<ukuz> I dont think i can either
<sapphire> samsara2003 is another believer
<[3j]> " The "Cult" of Sarah Mc "
<sapphire> yes, that would be zetatalk
<ukuz> did it seem that she may have appeared to be making all this up about PX ?
<[3j]> sarah mc is zeta supporter then
<sapphire> no...ANTI
<ukuz> from todays session?
<sapphire> sci.astro
<[3j]> reading your article
<sapphire> sarah mc is the most aggressive anti-nancy person around
<ukuz> does she come only during Nancy's sessions?
<sapphire> i don't know if she is in the sessions...perhaps under another nickname
<sapphire> amateur astronomer as far as I can tell
<sapphire> she could be here now, for all I know
<ukuz> what size scope does an average amateur ahve?
<ukuz> have
<sapphire> depends on their budget i suppose
<ukuz> like 12 inch?
<sapphire> 10 and 12 inch probably the majority
<[3j]> i wonde if anyone ever asked nancy to get the zetas math formula to achieve faster than light
<sapphire> zetas can't interfere per the "council of worlds"
<sapphire> standard answer
<ukuz> so Zetas cannot give any solid evidense of PX existence?
<sapphire> exactly
<ukuz> that sounds wierd
<ukuz> this isnt faith
<sapphire> seems that way
<ukuz> because they wont give any evidence or they gave all they could?
<sapphire> my belief: there isn't any evidence for PX incoming
<sapphire> observe tt-watch
<ukuz> how are we suppose to avoid disbeleif (and death) if no type of evidence is presented?
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<ukuz> so Nancy appeared to lose focus today by getting into politics?
<[3j]> hehe
<[3j]> gore = star child :)
<[3j]> bush = evil
<[3j]> her words ..
<ukuz> maybe i should read the log...hehe
<[3j]> oh ya and this
<[3j]> [15:47] <NancyL> He allowed the Zetas to float him, to spare his leg, and this was amazing to others who distrust aliens.
<[3j]> referring to al gore .....
<[3j]> He - gore
<[3j]> hehe
<SnookPoon> She came off to me almost as crazy in the way she was so pissed off at IMO or something like that.
<ukuz> didnt Gore say he invented the internet?
<ukuz> :/
<[3j]> hehe
<[3j]> Gore really did help the internet get where it is today
<[3j]> and had a very big involvment in the begining
<[3j]> and helped tech, etc...
<ukuz> helped
<sapphire> he made a speech where he said "I took the initiative in inventing the internet"
<ukuz> thats what i gathered too
<sapphire> he didn't chose his words to carefully
<[3j]> gore is deranged.. hes obsessed at becoming the president no matter what. i heard hes buying/building a house near replica of white house
<ukuz> hehe
<[3j]> bleh... i dont like getting into politics
<ukuz> somehow that doesnt surprise me
<ukuz> about Gore
<[3j]> im not even allowed to vote (canadian), but i have so many opinions
<sapphire> the zetas jump into politics so quickly...this turned a lot of people off
<[3j]> you cant blame gore really, he was brought up like that by his father
<[3j]> mental problems... but his wife should notice it considering all her involvement with the mentally ill
<SnookPoon> People in Tennessee don't carw for him much and that's his home state.
<ukuz> thats hitting below the belt 3j
<ukuz> hehe
<[3j]> thats right snook
<SnookPoon> But I guess the Zetas love him.
<[3j]> i forgot about that one..
<ukuz> i hear the same from arkansas
<ukuz> now what i mean?
<ukuz> :)
<[3j]> the clintons?
<sapphire> tennessee and arkansas didn't benefit that much from the Clinton/Gore years in white house. That is why man resent them in those states.
<sapphire> many, i mean
<ukuz> broken promises?
<[3j]> probably
<ukuz> perhaps?
<[3j]> well there was also scandals concerning arkansas and clintons..
<sapphire> yep
<[3j]> clintons a whole different story
<[3j]> i wonder whats the zeta stand about them.
<[3j]> zt was around when clinton was president?
<ukuz> how does Nancy talk of Clintons?
<sapphire> they don't say much of anything except that Clinton "suspects" concerning PX, Zetas, MJ12 etc.
<[3j]> oh hehe
<sapphire> nancy didn't go off the "deep end" until Dec 2000.
<[3j]> clinton suspects and bush knows 100%
<SnookPoon> That doesn't make sense.
<ukuz> did the Zetas tell her that bush knows?
<sapphire> she claims
<[3j]> ukuz i think so.. the zt site makes it sound like he does know and is preparing for it
<SnookPoon> If Gore was part of M12 then Clint should be in the loop.
<ukuz> you would think
<sapphire> yes, logic escapes nancy
<ukuz> does sound rather biased
<SnookPoon> Didn't she used to be a computer programmer or something (Nancy)?.
<[3j]> i remember reading that somewhere
<[3j]> where a bunch of people went to her appt
<sapphire> computer something...couldn't verify exact job
<sapphire> she definitely doesn't know much about networking
<ukuz> so does this political favoring throw everything about PX out the window?
<SnookPoon> Does she ever talk about where she is going during the shift?.
<sapphire> if ZT is supposed to be 100 percent accurate it does
<SnookPoon> Your right about networking!.
<ukuz> i mean if this was not from the Zetas
<sapphire> i suspect she was in "database management" or something similar
<sapphire> entering/retrieving data
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