Session Start: Mon Jul 15 00:00:00 2002
Session Time: Mon Jul 15 00:00:00 2002
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[00:04] <ukuz> hi
[00:05] <Pott> hey
[00:05] <ukuz> yo
[00:05] <Pott> Whats going on?
[00:06] <ukuz> well seems you had an exciting day yesterday with Nancy
[00:06] <ukuz> :)
[00:06] <ukuz> I read the log
[00:06] <ukuz> interesting stuf
[00:08] <Pott> She does not respond much to me at all
[00:09] <ukuz> me neither
[00:09] <Pott> She calls IMO a coward when she won't answer most of what I throw at her.
[00:09] <Pott> I suppose IMO is rather questionable himself making him a easy target for Nancy.
[00:09] <ukuz> he should have stayed
[00:09] <ukuz> :)
[00:10] <ukuz> would have been interesting
[00:10] <Pott> Why what ended up happening?
[00:10] <ukuz> he just left early
[00:11] <Pott> IMO is nothing much special himself.
[00:11] <Pott> SO what he can do some analytical work.
[00:11] <Pott> I don't see why Nancy claims him to be this master disinformist.
[00:12] <ukuz> im curious how big his telescope is
[00:13] <ukuz> i mean if he has a cheapo, well, i can understand the dificulties
[00:13] <Pott> You should not have to worry about him at all.
[00:13] <cmel> yyyaaawwwnnn
[00:14] <cmel> morn' all
[00:14] <ukuz> morn'n
[00:14] <Pott> Whats going on?
[00:14] <cmel> nothin' much
[00:17] * Pott wonders how the vote looks.
[00:17] <cmel> I read the log, and I don't see why she should be so occupied with that guy either
[00:17] * cmel wonders were the vote is
[00:18] <Pott> Ahhh
[00:18] <Pott> http://www.skepticalmind.com/zetatalk.html
[00:18] <Pott> What is the real deal on Nancy/Zetas?
[00:18] <Pott> Nancy Lieder is mentally ill: 44.19%
[00:18] <Pott> Nancy Lieder is a con-artist: 33.72%
[00:18] <Pott> Nancy Lieder speaks the truth: 22.09%
[00:19] <Pott> 86 votes
[00:19] <Pott> hehe
[00:20] <ukuz> I dont think shes mentally ill...
[00:20] <ukuz> hmm
[00:20] <Pott> Atleast shes suspect of being a con-artist
[00:20] <Pott> That oughta be annoying.
[00:21] <cmel> I voted once back when it started, when there was 3 votes, voted she was a con-artist though
[00:21] <cmel> hehe
[00:22] <Pott> SHould contact the Baraboo police
[00:22] <Pott> Tell them there is a suspected con-artist in town
[00:24] <cmel> I'm impressed by the vastness of the ZT-site, it's huge
[00:26] <Pott> Not really.
[00:27] <Pott> As vast as it seems it has absolutly no astronomical significane.
[00:27] <cmel> when you try to read it, it seems endless :)
[00:27] <ukuz> Does anyone know if Zacharia Sitchin goes along with PX coming next year?
[00:27] <cmel> he doesn't
[00:27] <cmel> was the last I read
[00:28] <cmel> he thinks it's a lot of bullsh..
[00:28] <Pott> As much as it seems though it is next to nothing in significance =)
[00:28] <cmel> hehe
[00:29] <cmel> what about "ZT-accuracy" ???
[00:30] <Pott> Hehhe
[00:31] <cmel> she keeps saying that zt has been right all the time, as if when its said enough it gets true
[00:31] <Spanky> yes but the galaxy's too big for us to be the only ones
[00:31] <Pott> Well put it this way by ZT's explination of Antarctica's movement it is quite evident the positions they give would not complement the 140,000 year old ice.
[00:31] <cmel> do we know it's that old ?
[00:32] <cmel> or do the scientists err
[00:32] <Pott> Thats perhaps the best estimate 100,000 atleast.
[00:32] <cmel> hope so :)
[00:32] <Pott> Evidence suggests it's 140,000 years old.
[00:34] <cmel> ahh love the smell of coffee in the morning, just a sec ...
[00:34] <Pott> In regards to flash freezing of mammoths obviously perposterous as those animals lived in temperate forests and were capable of surviving in the cold. On top of that to get the results of flash freezing would require temperatures as cold as space.
[00:35] <cmel> back
[00:35] <Pott> Also keep in mind the number of frozen mammoths is about 50 if a flash freeze did occur there would be a lot more than that.
[00:36] <cmel> I've heard that the nomads that live up there, has been using ivory for ages ..
[00:36] <cmel> I meen 50 ... thats only a 100 tusks that wouldn't last long
[00:37] <ukuz> Pott, i take it youre certain she is 100% off her rocker...
[00:38] <cmel> according to what I've read elsewhere (as not zt) those animals lie there in the hundreds
[00:38] <Pott> cmel: I don't have a clue where you read that however perhaps you are confusing it with bones.
[00:40] <Pott> I do realize that there were death traps.
[00:40] <cmel> maybe 50 are the ones that scientists found, and they then used statistics
[00:41] <Pott> It is actually very rare to find one frozen.
[00:42] <cmel> but I also read that, the meat on some of the mammoth, was fresh enough for the slead-dogs to eat
[00:42] <cmel> you saw the one on discovery channel ?
[00:43] <Pott> It can stay fresh enough long =)
[00:43] <cmel> yep, if frozen
[00:43] <Pott> The cold dry air also removes some of the moisture.
[00:43] <cmel> the one they airlifted out
[00:44] <cmel> it's like freezedrying
[00:45] <Pott> I really don't think they could have been flash frozen.
[00:45] <Pott> Actually they had really strong digestive systems strong enough to consume pine cones.
[00:45] <cmel> what is your picture of what happened to them ?
[00:46] <Pott> I believe man eventually took them out.
[00:47] <Pott> Their coats of fur would have been favourable for warm clothing over other animals.
[00:47] <cmel> man surely had a part in this I agree, but the ones up in sibiria ?
[00:48] <cmel> large coats hhhmmmm perhaps, I don't think that they where that hairy
[00:48] <Pott> Yeah they were quite hairy
[00:48] <cmel> but thick skin could be used
[00:48] <cmel> body armour perhaps
[00:49] <Pott> It is well known through cave drawings they we once had a close corelation.
[00:49] <cmel> yes I know
[00:49] <Pott> Man is known for choosing only the best ;)
[00:49] <cmel> :)
[00:50] <cmel> not really, if that is true, then why chose Bush ?
[00:50] <cmel> hehe
[00:51] <Pott> They were a part of our history fortunatly scientific advancement might prove that they can rejoin that line of history.
[00:52] <cmel> You meen the cloning project that going on ?
[00:52] <cmel> thats
[00:52] <Pott> It's only a matter of time before they are cloned.
[00:52] <Pott> Elephants are ideal for that task.
[00:52] <cmel> what about the tasmanian tiger, they're cloning that too
[00:52] <Pott> All you need is the genetic code
[00:53] <cmel> and you have plenty of that
[00:53] <cmel> frozen
[00:53] <cmel> too
[00:53] <Pott> And ofcourse a host
[00:57] <cmel> pott I have a problem, mirc is persistent in lying on top why ?
[01:13] <Pott> Click in the upper left
[01:14] <Pott> it has a option for On top
[01:14] <Pott> Make sure it's not checked
[01:14] <cmel> ah thx
[01:17] <Pott> np
[01:17] <Pott> mIRC = My expertise
[01:17] <cmel> :)
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[03:37] <cmel> ping
[03:45] <cmel> pong
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[03:55] <FunBot> [obany] <-- Coffee, tea, fish and internet addict!
[03:58] <cmel> Cofee, tea, bush and internet addidict!
[03:59] <cmel> Coffee
[03:59] * obany brb
[03:59] <cmel> addict
[04:00] <cmel> funbot where are you from ?
[04:01] <cmel> +o funbot
[04:02] <cmel> how do you do that
[04:03] * cmel lies down on that couch and awaits an answer
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[04:26] <cmel> hi pott
[04:34] <obany> how do i do that.. .well it's because i am added to that bot that's why
[04:39] <obany> anyway food
[04:39] <cmel> you are addicted to being a bot ? ... or what ?
[04:40] <cmel> just kidding
[04:40] <cmel> hehe
[04:57] <obany> i know i know .... cmel ..
[05:05] <obany> ROME, Italy -- The Italian army is to be mobilised to help fight a drought that has scarred the southern half of the country.
[05:05] <obany> A state of emergency has been declared in four regions as crops withered in the dry weather with conditions made worse by poor water management.
[05:06] <obany> http://europe.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/07/14/italy.water/index.html
[05:06] <cmel> just a sec
[05:08] <sapphire> yes, there is drought all over the US as well
[05:08] <cmel> ¨bad situation
[05:09] <cmel> yes I've noticed
[05:09] <sapphire> Lake Mead (near me) as dropped more than 300 feet this year
[05:10] <cmel> yes it's drying out
[05:10] <cmel> too much water needed elsewhere
[05:10] <sapphire> none of this compares to "dustbowl" of 1930's though...so it could be far worse
[05:11] <sapphire> for US at least
[05:11] <cmel> yes thats right sap.
[05:16] <cmel> so what do you think about the attack of locusts in russia ?
[05:18] <obany> Russia didn't read about that but i did read about locusts in Italy
[05:18] <sapphire> sometimes the authorities lack the foresight to spray insecticides in certain areas and things get out of hand
[05:18] <sapphire> especially if there is unexpected wet weather somewhere
[05:19] <sapphire> insects breed faster than anticipated
[05:19] <sapphire> then move to crops
[05:19] <sapphire> never happens in US due to agressive pesticide use
[05:20] <sapphire> we probably eat some of it as a result
[05:21] <obany> we are talking about other countries here ... sapphire not about the USA
[05:21] <sapphire> that was my point, they don't have the pesticide programs
[05:21] <cmel> sure ob. and sap.
[05:21] <sapphire> so they get locusts and such
[05:22] <cmel> but don't kill the messenger
[05:23] <obany> so by that means, you kinda say humans are to blame for those locutst plagues because they don't use enough pesticids
[05:24] <cmel> no there disturb the natural order
[05:24] <cmel> they
[05:24] <sapphire> no blame, i'm just observing that they don't make use of pesticides like we do
[05:24] <sapphire> they could have valid reasons for this
[05:24] <cmel> money
[05:24] <cmel> lack of that
[05:25] <obany> so cmel you rather eat pesticides ??
[05:25] <sapphire> possible, or environmental or religious beliefs
[05:26] <cmel> no I prefer no pesticides
[05:26] <cmel> just think back in time when ddt was the thing !!
[05:27] <sapphire> DDT might be making a come back
[05:27] <cmel> I hope not
[05:27] <sapphire> new studies show it might not have been harmfull afterall
[05:28] <sapphire> If FDA reversed course, it will come back
[05:28] <cmel> well a lot of predators would disagree with you
[05:28] <sapphire> DDT is the most effective pesticide known so far
[05:28] <cmel> yes it kill's everything
[05:28] <obany> and how do you know that those studies are well not a kind of lie, just to get it back ...
[05:28] <cmel> including mammals
[05:29] <sapphire> it's not me backing DDT, just a flurry of more recent "studies"
[05:29] <sapphire> they could be wrong
[05:29] <cmel> Better be safe than sorry
[05:30] <cmel> don't use
[05:30] <obany> i agree with you cmel
[05:30] <sapphire> I do know that people generally put more toxins into their bodies on a deliberate basis than they tend to get unknowingly from their environment
[05:30] <cmel> ok, good to have someone that agrees
[05:30] <sapphire> smoking, drinking, drug use, etc.
[05:31] <cmel> what we humans do is another thing
[05:32] <cmel> to our selves
[05:32] <cmel> that is
[05:32] <sapphire> i'm far more likely to die in an auto accident than any other cause
[05:33] <cmel> that's not an argument
[05:33] <sapphire> it is were I live
[05:35] <cmel> no it's not you miss the point, that is that you dont pollute you environment
[05:36] <cmel> I disagree intirely
[05:36] <cmel> you're
[05:37] <sapphire> all humans pollute the environment, that's our nature
[05:37] <cmel> to say it in a simple fasion, you clean up you'r own mess
[05:38] <sapphire> we produce garbage of all kinds
[05:38] <cmel> yes but my thoght is lets stop the use/produce world
[05:39] <sapphire> if we don't mitigate this, over time we will all perish
[05:39] <cmel> I think this consummanism must stop
[05:40] <sapphire> i think that over time, earth will force it to a stop, as resources dwindle
[05:41] <cmel> I agree that will happen, but I think that we have to force that early
[05:42] <cmel> in order to stay alive
[05:42] <obany> i will return later
[05:42] <cmel> ¨k ob.
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[07:36] <obany> bye laters
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[08:06] <Freax> woot
[08:08] <Freax> day 151 of my run from authorities
[08:09] <Freax> ahh
[08:09] <Freax> the comfort of a dumpster and a land line =)
[08:19] <sapphire> freax, you in australia?
[08:26] <Freax> bbs cooking noodles
[08:26] <Freax> yes
[08:32] <Freax> k eating now
[08:33] <sapphire> ah, what time is it there?
[08:33] <Freax> 0133
[08:34] <Freax> or 1:34am
[08:35] <sapphire> ok, 8:35am here
[08:36] <Freax> lucky one
[08:36] <sapphire> have you ever seen "Farscape", i think it comes from Australia
[08:36] <Freax> yes i used to watch it
[08:36] <Freax> i watched it from ep 1
[08:37] <sapphire> yes, me too. I'm trying to collect all the episodes in divx format
[08:37] <Freax> thought it was lame and didnt watch until for another few months
[08:38] <Freax> ithoughtthefirstepisodehadtoomuchofastarwarsfeeltoit
[08:38] <Freax> ihatestarwars
[08:38] <Freax> ahhmyspacebarhasstoppedworking
[08:38] <Freax> ohhowconvenient
[08:38] <sapphire> yeah, i'm not really into star wars
[08:38] <sapphire> too much for teenagers and now young kids
[08:38] <Freax> mmm
[08:39] <Freax> indeed
[08:39] <Freax> fuckingkiddieshit
[08:39] <sapphire> i like scifi to have a complexity, politics etc.
[08:39] <sapphire> not just black vs white
[08:40] <Freax> yeah,andgoodplausibletechnologyandgoodlookingbabes
[08:40] <sapphire> yes, the babes will keep you watching :)
[08:40] <Freax> likestartrek
[08:40] <Freax> butstartrekhasgonetothekiddies
[08:40] <Freax> withenterprise
[08:41] <Freax> ilikeitbecauseitcoversthebegeningagaininalighterperspective
[08:41] <Freax> butihateitbecauseofthedoctor=P
[08:42] <sapphire> i have collected ALL episodes of all series now. Voyager is my least favorite
[08:42] <Freax> ohilovevoyager
[08:42] <Freax> sortof
[08:42] <Freax> hehe
[08:42] <sapphire> I'm still making up my mind about Enterprise
[08:42] <Freax> buttngisthebest;DD
[08:42] <[3j]> hi
[08:42] <Freax> jadziadax...
[08:42] <[3j]> i saw the 1st episode of enterprise the other day
[08:43] <[3j]> got it off the net, and it was good
[08:43] <Freax> isthebestoutofds9
[08:43] <sapphire> i agree, TNG is still tops right now
[08:43] <[3j]> but there are discrepencies
[08:43] <Freax> yeah
[08:43] <[3j]> i didnt write that correctly
[08:43] <[3j]> discrenpencies ?
[08:43] <Freax> like the corny intro
[08:43] <[3j]> anyway, stuff that doesnt match
[08:43] <Freax> music
[08:43] <Freax> wow my space has come back
[08:44] <[3j]> and the intro!@ ya what happened to "space the final frontier"
[08:44] <sapphire> crumb under the bar
[08:44] <[3j]> TO BOLDLY GO WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE
[08:44] <Freax> mmm
[08:44] <[3j]> i wondered where that went.
[08:44] <Freax> its now politically/morally correct
[08:44] <sapphire> "no one" has gone before
[08:44] <Freax> whatever happenend to finnigan and kirk?
[08:44] <[3j]> asides from that enterprise, the 1st one anyway was okay, but reminds me like all the other sci fi trek spin offs out there..
[08:45] <Freax> i mean whatever happenend to the good ol fistfight =D
[08:46] <Freax> did benjamin fight often?
[08:46] <[3j]> the TNG crew are making a new movie though
[08:46] <Freax> they are?
[08:46] <[3j]> http://us.imdb.com/Title?0253754
[08:46] <[3j]> yup
[08:46] <Freax> didnt they already have inseurrection
[08:46] <[3j]> was that the last one/
[08:46] <[3j]> ?
[08:46] <Freax> yes
[08:47] <[3j]> or was it first contact the last one
[08:47] <Freax> 2000
[08:47] <sapphire> i thought First Contact was better than Insurrection
[08:47] <sapphire> last was insurrection
[08:47] <Freax> yeah first contact was cool
[08:47] <Freax> i enjoyed the counsellor getting drunk hehe
[08:47] <Freax> too bad she wasnt in her usual skintight clothes =\
[08:48] <[3j]> compared to the original trek movies though
[08:48] <sapphire> perhaps star fleet should meet the grays/zetas
[08:48] * cmelaway is yawning and stretching
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[08:48] <[3j]> dont know, the grays/zetas dont really seem to fit in the starfleet thing
[08:48] <Freax> hey yeah a whole genesis style thing to it
[08:48] <sapphire> unless they come from another dimension/desity all of the sudden
[08:48] <[3j]> about grays though, arent they supposed to be evil
[08:49] <Freax> zetas/genesis/earth/othergalaxy and the 3 captians?
[08:49] <Freax> and maybe Q?
[08:49] <[3j]> hehe Q
[08:49] <Freax> id love that =D
[08:49] <sapphire> a warp drive experiment can tear open a whole where the zetas can enter
[08:49] <sapphire> Q can bring zetas
[08:49] <[3j]> it would be cool if there was such a kind of space civ hehe
[08:49] <Freax> yeah maybe like the holographic beings
[08:50] <Freax> where they used the hologram decks as an entrance
[08:50] <[3j]> i'd buy myself one of those holo decks
[08:50] <Freax> but in the cargobay or something
[08:50] <[3j]> that would be so amazing!
[08:50] <Freax> hehe
[08:50] <sapphire> most people would enter their holodeck and never come out
[08:50] <[3j]> lol
[08:50] <sapphire> till the electricity bill came due, and was shut off
[08:50] <[3j]> its true
[08:51] <Freax> ahh so they piss in the holographic toilet and they get a doggie bag on the way out?
[08:51] <cmel> lol
[08:51] <sapphire> lol
[08:52] <sapphire> oh oh, hope you don't have money in US stock market. Tanking right now...
[08:52] <cmel> oh no
[08:52] <Freax> naa im fine =D
[08:52] <cmel> nothin' there
[08:52] <Freax> US market pfft haha what a joke
[08:53] <Freax> as if, it's as weak as the canadian market right now
[08:53] <cmel> bush helped it on the way
[08:53] <sapphire> soon we'll be back in the early 90's
[08:53] <Freax> are you supposed to be /moving/ ahead
[08:53] <Freax> ?
[08:53] <cmel> I don't think so sap.
[08:53] <sapphire> possible, there are more scandals to come
[08:54] <Freax> teehee
[08:54] <Freax> next on scandal america
[08:54] <Freax> ...
[08:54] <cmel> we still have to make the big dip
[08:54] <sapphire> could be today by the looks of it...or real soon
[08:54] <cmel> this fall something else comes
[08:55] <sapphire> like?
[08:55] <cmel> another crash
[08:55] <[3j]> crash ?
[08:55] <[3j]> market?
[08:55] <cmel> a big firm comming down with a bang
[08:55] <sapphire> i don't see crash, i see drop 800-1000 pts per week for several weeks
[08:56] <sapphire> on DOW
[08:56] <[3j]> you "see" ?
[08:56] <Freax> bah worldcom is trading at 16cents for christs sake
[08:56] <sapphire> leaving us back where it was in early 90's
[08:56] <Freax> and you dont see that as 'crash'?
[08:56] <Freax> what are you a fish?
[08:56] <sapphire> i think of "crash" as single trading session event
[08:56] <cmel> No I dont se but it's in the CARDs hehe
[08:57] <[3j]> hmm
[08:57] <Freax> ahh right
[08:57] <Freax> hehe
[08:57] <[3j]> what tarot CARDs?
[08:57] <cmel> I wouldn't trade
[08:57] <Freax> naa credit cards [3j] =P
[08:57] <cmel> not tarot
[08:57] <[3j]> just cards
[08:58] <cmel> Freax is right no credit this fall
[08:58] <Freax> "i see death!, debt, divorce"
[08:58] <[3j]> what you see will come true freax, i see it too
[08:58] <Freax> thats all i see in credit cards
[08:58] <cmel> bow wow
[08:58] <[3j]> hmm very true, the gold card is inverted
[08:58] <Freax> thank you thank you
[08:58] <[3j]> and the visa sign is to the left
[08:58] <[3j]> oops and the mastercard fell <-- very bad sign
[08:59] <cmel> now you mock my true words
[08:59] <[3j]> hehe
[08:59] <cmel> ;(
[08:59] <Freax> heh
[08:59] <cmel> hehe
[08:59] <Freax> aww
[08:59] <[3j]> im joking. i actually do cards for real
[08:59] <cmel> hehe
[08:59] <Freax> heh
[08:59] * Freax hands [3j] his hand
[08:59] <[3j]> i was just dispersing some inside card info ....
[09:00] <Freax> *shrug*
[09:00] * cmel is shuffling the visa & gold cards
[09:00] <[3j]> hehe
[09:00] <Freax> hehe
[09:00] * Freax grabs the lot and runs
[09:00] <[3j]> lol
[09:00] * cmel throvs the cards onto the table
[09:01] <cmel> hhhmmm
[09:01] <Freax> snap!
[09:01] <Freax> bingo!
[09:01] <cmel> microsoft lives
[09:01] <Freax> narf
[09:01] <cmel> everything else dies
[09:01] <Freax> bareley, it's floating...
[09:01] * Freax shivvers
[09:01] <Freax> i just forseed microsoft creating a future government
[09:02] * cmel scratches his back
[09:02] <Freax> oh no?
[09:02] <cmel> I too
[09:02] <cmel> USA= M$
[09:02] <Freax> are you trying to hint to me that i owe you a favour
[09:02] <Freax> for those files?
[09:02] * Freax scratches cmel's back
[09:03] * cmel aaah to the left
[09:03] * Freax nods and responds accordingly
[09:03] * cmel aaaah thx
[09:03] * Freax nods and responds accordingly
[09:03] <[3j]> i hope mib2 is good
[09:04] <Freax> sigh, i missed letterman
[09:04] <Freax> was on 2 hours ago
[09:04] <cmel> Hes funny
[09:04] * Freax pops a cap and gets back to it
[09:04] <Freax> yeah ive watched him since i was a child
[09:05] <Freax> first episode i seen him giving away a laptop and a model bill gates to one of the crowdgoers
[09:05] <cmel> he was a weatherman back in the day
[09:05] <cmel> ?
[09:05] <Freax> when i was 13-14
[09:05] <Freax> hehe
[09:05] <Freax> not sure on that one =P
[09:05] <Freax> didnt know i was that old
[09:06] <Freax> you know this backscratching sure does give the talkers a thing to gob about
[09:06] <cmel> well get used to it
[09:06] <cmel> hehe
[09:06] <Freax> sigh, hehe
[09:06] <cmel> LOL
[09:07] <cmel> I'm still scratching
[09:07] <cmel> help
[09:07] <Freax> mmm me too
[09:07] <cmel> I'ts just there to the right
[09:07] * Freax nods and responds accordingly
[09:07] <cmel> hehe
[09:08] <cmel> gimme a scrathcing pin
[09:08] <cmel> plz
[09:08] * Freax nods and responds accordingly
[09:08] <cmel> thz
[09:08] <cmel> thx
[09:08] * Freax hands cmel a scratching 'pin' from the heated pins next to the jadzia dax statues outside on the tiled roman bathing area
[09:09] * cmel takes the pin and scratches where he can't reach
[09:09] <cmel> thx
[09:10] <Freax> thought i was doing that
[09:10] <cmel> yeah well you didn't reach ALL the places
[09:11] <Freax> ahh you mean those ones *wink* *wink*'
[09:11] <cmel> LOL
[09:11] <cmel> hehe
[09:12] <Freax> hehe lol rofl roflmao lmho
[09:12] <Freax> lmhowarpimh
[09:12] <cmel> good response Freax
[09:12] <cmel> you won
[09:12] <Freax> wohoo
[09:13] <Freax> too bad i dont know wether to close the window or put the heater on
[09:13] <cmel> so what do you think about chemtrails ??
[09:13] <Freax> who what when?
[09:13] <cmel> back then
[09:14] <Freax> when the pen was popular or?
[09:14] <Freax> honestly i havent a clue as to what chemtrails is or what it does
[09:14] <Freax> but if i do come across this information ill be sure to tell you
[09:14] <cmel> I don't either
[09:15] <cmel> but I think something IS happening
[09:15] <cmel> just look to rense.com
[09:16] <Freax> will do
[09:16] <cmel> he has reports everyday
[09:16] <cmel> or so
[09:21] <Freax> ahh quicktime quicktime quicktime
[09:21] <cmel> hah
[09:22] <Freax> wants to shutdown all of my running apps
[09:22] <cmel> k Freax
[09:22] <Freax> only problem is theres about 50+ of em !!
[09:22] <cmel> sorry
[09:22] <cmel> :(
[09:22] <Freax> for what?
[09:22] <Freax> you say sorry /far/ too much =D
[09:22] <cmel> for the numbers
[09:23] <cmel> I do
[09:23] <Freax> peh, you ninny =P
[09:23] <cmel> ?
[09:23] <Freax> brb
[09:23] <cmel> k
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[09:31] <Freax> meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh
[09:31] <cmel-waiting> woof
[09:32] *** cmel-waiting is now known as cmel
[09:32] <Freax> bark
[09:32] <Freax> managed to get a splinter to leave my thumb while in the shower tonight
[09:32] * cmel runs towards Freax and bites
[09:32] <cmel> woof
[09:34] <cmel> woof woofreax
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[09:34] <Freax-2> narf =\
[09:34] <cmel> barf
[09:35] <Freax-2> larf
[09:35] <cmel> ??
[09:35] <Freax-2> haha hehe hoho
[09:35] <cmel> hrhr
[09:35] <cmel> hehe
[09:35] <Freax-2> har har
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[09:36] <cmel> hi
[09:36] <Freax> narf =)
[09:36] <Freax> hi
[09:36] <cmel> who are u
[09:36] <Freax> im cmel who are you?
[09:36] <cmel> im Freax
[09:37] <Freax> right on
[09:37] <cmel> yeah
[09:37] <Freax> woof
[09:38] <cmel> wwiiifff
[09:39] <cmel> wiiff
[09:39] <Freax> ipeefreeley
[09:40] <Freax> I.P Freeley
[09:40] * cmel snifs food and runs of into the dark
[09:40] <cmel> off
[09:40] *** Freax is now known as I
[09:40] *** I is now known as I_P_Freeley
[09:41] <I_P_Freeley> ok
[09:41] <cmel> I= ? p=?
[09:42] <I_P_Freeley> i=me
[09:42] <I_P_Freeley> p=pee=urinate
[09:42] <cmel> hehe
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[09:49] <I_P_Freeley> wish i was a scissorfish
[09:50] <cmel-away> you do ... why
[09:51] <I_P_Freeley> cause that way i could be in a tropical paradise for 7 years getting fed shrimp and having my water cleaned each week while the tempreature stays at 26c
[09:51] <I_P_Freeley> with no threats of dying or nothing
[09:52] <I_P_Freeley> 7 years is enough for a human being
[09:52] <I_P_Freeley> in my case its 19 years
[09:53] <I_P_Freeley> cause ill prolly die next year
[09:53] <cmel-away> You'd get fried anyway, because people will get you
[09:53] <I_P_Freeley> sigh, looks bleak
[09:53] <cmel-away> You have a medical condition ?
[09:54] <I_P_Freeley> hehe
[09:54] <I_P_Freeley> nope
[09:54] <I_P_Freeley> depends on if you believe in this zeta thing
[09:54] <cmel-away> people will get you anyway ...
[09:54] <I_P_Freeley> if this thing comes true ill die if it dosent ill probably live to a ripe age
[09:54] <I_P_Freeley> meh
[09:54] <cmel-away> mah
[09:54] <I_P_Freeley> i havent done anything wrong to them =D
[09:55] <I_P_Freeley> so why should they, im a useful slave
[09:55] <cmel-away> they'll do you anyway just in case
[09:56] <I_P_Freeley> narf
[09:56] <cmel-away> nurf
[09:56] <I_P_Freeley> nurf?
[09:56] <I_P_Freeley> hehe
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[09:57] <cmel> nirf
[09:57] <I_P_Freeley> nibf
[09:57] <I_P_Freeley> come go i dont care
[09:57] <cmel> nyrf
[09:57] <cmel> narf
[09:57] <I_P_Freeley> norf
[09:57] <I_P_Freeley> hehe
[09:58] <cmel> hehe
[09:58] <I_P_Freeley> north = norf
[09:58] <I_P_Freeley> new afterzeta word for north, norf
[09:59] <I_P_Freeley> and south will be soufh
[09:59] <cmel> what about west ?
[09:59] <cmel> and east ?
[09:59] <I_P_Freeley> im working on that one
[09:59] <I_P_Freeley> and east
[10:00] <I_P_Freeley> west will be welst
[10:00] <cmel> and ...
[10:01] <I_P_Freeley> and east est
[10:01] <cmel> est ?
[10:01] <cmel> welst
[10:01] <cmel> norf
[10:01] * I_P_Freeley stares at cmel
[10:01] <I_P_Freeley> can you do better?
[10:01] <I_P_Freeley> ^^^
[10:01] <I_P_Freeley> ^^^
[10:02] * cmel looks lovingly at I_P_Freeley
[10:02] <I_P_Freeley> narf
[10:02] <cmel> norf
[10:02] * I_P_Freeley blushes
[10:02] <cmel> hehe
[10:03] <cmel> I have to leave you for a while
[10:03] <cmel> to get food
[10:03] <I_P_Freeley> nawwf
[10:03] <I_P_Freeley> nokay
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[10:10] <I_P_Freeley> ooh funky trailer
[10:11] <I_P_Freeley> brb coke
[10:14] <I_P_Freeley> wtf, behahhaa frequency foods?
[10:17] <I_P_Freeley> NAAARfff
[10:17] <I_P_Freeley> i am so seriously fucking annoying hehe =D
[10:17] <cmel-eating> yes you are !!! :)
[10:18] <cmel-eating> no food yet
[10:18] <I_P_Freeley> is it a nice annoying?
[10:18] <I_P_Freeley> ordered?
[10:18] <cmel-eating> like a dildo up your ass
[10:18] <cmel-eating> yes
[10:18] <I_P_Freeley> ooh nice
[10:19] <cmel-eating> I will have to go soon
[10:19] <cmel-eating> I think now
[10:19] <cmel-eating> later dude !!
[10:20] <I_P_Freeley> later dudddeeee!
[10:20] <I_P_Freeley> dudette?
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[10:49] <reticuli> hi all
[10:54] <obaway> hi
[10:54] <cmel-eating> hi
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[10:58] *** cmel-tv-was-nothing is now known as cmel
[10:58] <cmel> hi ppl
[10:58] <reticuli> hello
[10:58] <cmel> hi reticuli
[10:59] <reticuli> how are you doing?
[10:59] <cmel> anyone here that want a good chat ???
[10:59] <sapphire> have to go mow the lawn...while its under 90 F
[10:59] <obany> well i don't know now what to chat or talk about it
[10:59] <reticuli> define "good chat"?
[10:59] <cmel> how about you reti. ?
[10:59] <reticuli> ciao sapphy
[10:59] <reticuli> enjoy ;)
[11:00] <reticuli> sure why not, give me a good chat
[11:00] <cmel> well what about bush's plans to invade Irak
[11:01] <cmel> what do you all think ??
[11:01] <reticuli> I think he will wait until closer to election time, try and ride the war hysteria into another term
[11:01] <cmel> I think it's bullshit
[11:01] <cmel> maybe you're right, but I hope not
[11:02] <reticuli> well he wont make the same mistake his daddy made
[11:02] <cmel> It will lead to nowhere
[11:02] <cmel> you think ?
[11:03] <reticuli> the mistake was staging a war to far removed from election
[11:04] <reticuli> speaking of bush, check what this fascist pig is up to, this from the horses mouth http://www.citizencorps.gov/tips.html
[11:04] <reticuli> The Terrorism Information and Prevention System, or TIPS, means the US will
[11:04] <reticuli> have a higher percentage of citizen informants than the former East Germany
[11:04] <reticuli> through the infamous Stasi secret police. The program would use a minimum of
[11:04] <reticuli> 4 per cent of Americans to report "suspicious activity".
[11:04] <obany> eeeuw
[11:05] <obany> realy going back to the old days
[11:05] <obany> doesn't sound good
[11:05] <cmel> I think NL is right on that point, Bush jr. is a bitch
[11:05] <cmel> I agree
[11:06] <reticuli> I heard an anectodal account of a citizen who went to the post office a number of months ago. He requested postage stamps without US flags on them, and for that he was interrogtaed in the post office and questioned by the FBI
[11:06] <obany> and a puppet ... ... it's that administration that is in control but still ... doesn't sound good
[11:06] <obany> :/
[11:06] <cmel> true ??
[11:06] <reticuli> We are living in a police state now
[11:07] <reticuli> Amerika has a higher porportion of its citizens in prison that any country on the planet
[11:07] <cmel> it sounds like, germany during the war (eg. gestapo )
[11:07] <obany> indeed cmel
[11:07] <reticuli> well presecott bush was a nazi
[11:08] <obany> he was dealing with them for what i remember, business or so
[11:08] <cmel> you heard of nazi's imported to the us after the war, (because of their knowledge)
[11:08] <reticuli> yes, he had a company liquidated by congress in 1942(?) under the trading with the enemies act
[11:09] <obany> Yes, i know cmel
[11:09] <reticuli> and he was a eugenicist
[11:09] <cmel> what does that mean ?
[11:09] <obany> even the CIA had nazi's in them
[11:09] <cmel> you say even , haha
[11:09] <cmel> hehe
[11:09] <obany> well the cia had
[11:10] <reticuli> http://www.dogonvillage.com/wwwboard/messages/731.html
[11:10] <cmel> yes I dont contest that
[11:10] <obany> eugeni is like well cleaning of a race
[11:10] <reticuli> yes
[11:10] <reticuli> too bad they missed dubya
[11:10] <reticuli> :)
[11:10] <obany> so killing the disabled etc etc
[11:10] <reticuli> yes
[11:10] <cmel> thx for the enlightenment
[11:11] <reticuli> eugenics was adopted by the nazis as the "scientific: justificaton for their atrocities
[11:11] <cmel> yes I believe so
[11:11] <reticuli> Discussing what he would say to Israeli Jews upon arriving in the
[11:11] <reticuli> middle east in 1993, George W. joked: "[You're all] going to hell."
[11:11] <obany> eugenics also occured in the USA for what i once saw in a documentary
[11:11] <reticuli> !!!
[11:11] <reticuli> oh yes pbany
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[11:12] <reticuli> in fact it was quite popular here
[11:12] <cmel> hi gap
[11:12] <gap_mouthed> hi.reticuli
[11:12] <reticuli> hello
[11:12] <gap_mouthed> i did some creative again..
[11:12] <cmel> what ?
[11:12] <gap_mouthed> i hope NancyL don't get upset
[11:13] <cmel> hehe
[11:13] <reticuli> talking about the nazi connection to the bush family and how that is still influencing their politics
[11:13] <gap_mouthed> http://members.lycos.nl/webhtml/imp.swf
[11:14] <reticuli> http://www.citizencorps.gov/tips.html
[11:14] <reticuli> We are witnessing the death of America at this moment
[11:15] <reticuli> the only thing that will save freedom in this country now is the judiciary
[11:15] <obany> and you made a little mistake ...
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[11:15] <obany> it's not 3500
[11:16] <gap_mouthed> i know
[11:16] <obany> it's like 3657 years acc zetatalk and 3600 acc sitchins books
[11:17] <gap_mouthed> Nancy can program a nice flash i hope
[11:17] <reticuli> where do you live gap?
[11:17] <gap_mouthed> holland
[11:18] <reticuli> what are your plans for 5/2003?
[11:19] <gap_mouthed> Well, i will deciding in the comming months
[11:19] <reticuli> r u waiting for a sighting?
[11:19] <gap_mouthed> no really plans...i think
[11:19] <gap_mouthed> I always wait for a disk...look a lot at the skies
[11:19] <gap_mouthed> hehe
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[11:20] <reticuli> I was wondering if you waiting to see px in november
[11:20] <reticuli> before you do anything
[11:20] <gap_mouthed> I have no scope...so
[11:20] <cmel> I'm waiting as well
[11:20] <gap_mouthed> but i e-mail 2 observatory
[11:20] <cmel> k gap
[11:21] <gap_mouthed> Maybe i will go looking..but maybe not...i on't know
[11:21] <reticuli> I know two astronomers... I am still thinking how I can approach this subject with them... People with PHd's wont even look at this
[11:21] <cmel> you should wait till sep
[11:22] <cmel> thats a big problem reti.
[11:22] <cmel> I cant talk about this to my family
[11:23] <cmel> not even my nearest friend
[11:23] <reticuli> I really dont want to lie.... but I could tell them that I had spotted a comet and ask them to look. They probably would look then. Appeal to their ego (If it was a comet their name would added to it as a co-discoverer ;) )
[11:24] <cmel> that may be a solution ....
[11:24] <reticuli> yes, but its manipulative
[11:24] <cmel> yes it is but informative to your peers
[11:24] <reticuli> where are you cmel?
[11:25] <cmel> dk, country 045
[11:25] <reticuli> denmark?
[11:25] <cmel> yes
[11:25] <cmel> u ?
[11:25] <reticuli> seattle, USA
[11:25] <cmel> k reti.
[11:26] <reticuli> what part of denmark?
[11:26] <cmel> whats the time there 0526
[11:26] <cmel> ?
[11:26] <cmel> copenhagen
[11:26] <reticuli> 11:30 am
[11:27] <cmel> yes I have to go back to school ... hehe
[11:27] <reticuli> lol
[11:27] <reticuli> how old are you?
[11:28] <cmel> well I'm 32, and you ?
[11:28] <reticuli> 31
[11:28] <cmel> same age ... almost
[11:29] <reticuli> yep, Im a saggitarius
[11:29] <cmel> I was born in 1970 21'st of may
[11:29] <reticuli> hey, do like Lars von trier?
[11:29] <cmel> I dont know if I'm taurus or not
[11:30] <reticuli> or I should say, do you like his filsm
[11:30] <reticuli> films
[11:30] <cmel> He's ok :)
[11:30] <reticuli> I'm a fan
[11:30] <cmel> films are ok
[11:30] <cmel> you are ... no
[11:30] <cmel> :)
[11:30] <reticuli> ?
[11:31] <cmel> hehe
[11:31] <reticuli> please share
[11:31] <reticuli> :)
[11:31] <cmel> danish filmmaking has been on a big wave latly
[11:32] <cmel> lately
[11:32] <reticuli> I appreciate the sadism thats inherent in his work
[11:32] <reticuli> especially in the idiots
[11:33] <cmel> yes but it gets to be porno, later in the movie
[11:33] <reticuli> oh well ;)
[11:33] <cmel> hehe
[11:33] <reticuli> it was edited in the states
[11:33] <reticuli> so I was deprived
[11:33] <reticuli> :)
[11:33] <reticuli> hehe
[11:34] <cmel> I didn't know americans liked movies from denmark (at least some) !!
[11:34] <reticuli> most americans cant tell their head from the television set
[11:34] <cmel> hahe
[11:34] <cmel> LOL
[11:34] <reticuli> I studied film theory and production in college
[11:35] <cmel> k reti. !
[11:35] <reticuli> amongst other things, I was in college from 1992-1999
[11:35] <reticuli> I enjoy it... professional student
[11:35] <cmel> long time no see
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[11:36] <cmel> hi Zico
[11:36] <Zico> hey
[11:36] <reticuli> howdy
[11:36] <reticuli> guess i should talk like a texan now that I live in a facsist state
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[11:36] <cmel> I like what you'r doing Reticuli !
[11:37] <reticuli> what am I doing?
[11:37] <cmel> You'r doing what I like :)
[11:37] <cmel> hehe
[11:37] <reticuli> :)
[11:37] <reticuli> I aim to please
[11:37] <cmel> allways
[11:37] <cmel> perhaps
[11:38] <cmel> hehe
[11:38] <reticuli> ;)
[11:38] <cmel> LOL
[11:38] <reticuli> I have to keep myself entertained while at work
[11:38] <cmel> so ZIco ... where are you from ?
[11:39] <cmel> k reti.
[11:39] <cmel> I'm from dk
[11:40] <gap_mouthed> Does Nancy know about the ramala books??
[11:40] <cmel> reti are you at work now ?
[11:40] <reticuli> yes
[11:40] <gap_mouthed> anyone know that?
[11:40] <cmel> k
[11:40] <reticuli> i work online
[11:41] <cmel> I don't know about the ramala books
[11:41] <cmel> k reti-
[11:41] <reticuli> me either
[11:41] <gap_mouthed> obany ? you?
[11:41] <reticuli> you dont mean ramtha do you?
[11:41] <gap_mouthed> Maybe I asked before..
[11:41] <cmel> maybe ?
[11:42] <cmel> you didn't get an answer !!
[11:42] <cmel> what are the books about ?
[11:42] <gap_mouthed> I am curious if obany knows about that book..
[11:42] <gap_mouthed> Hazelwood read it... i tink
[11:42] <reticuli> tell us about it
[11:43] <gap_mouthed> Mark are you undercover here???
[11:43] <cmel> yes tell
[11:43] <gap_mouthed> hehe
[11:43] <reticuli> how did you Know!!!!!
[11:43] <reticuli> hehe
[11:43] <gap_mouthed> hehe
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[11:44] <reticuli> whats the deal with hazelwood?
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[11:44] <cmel> yes what is that gap. ?
[11:45] <gap_mouthed> Oh it is Hazlewood , sorry (read it again..
[11:45] <cmel> so Hazlewood is the correct way to spell it
[11:45] <reticuli> y
[11:45] <gap_mouthed> He read that book(s) also... i thought ...maybe i am wrong
[11:45] <reticuli> what, i dont think so
[11:46] <reticuli> hazel I think
[11:46] <gap_mouthed> obany are you here ...??
[11:46] <cmel> but what is that book about ?
[11:47] <gap_mouthed> That book says it also ... before 2004 the poleshift ....(as i remembered)
[11:47] <Zico> mark hazlewood
[11:47] <cmel> k z
[11:47] <gap_mouthed> But i don't see that on Nancy her website...
[11:48] <gap_mouthed> http://www.ramalacentre.com
[11:48] <reticuli> Is there a conflict between Hazlwood and the Nancy?
[11:49] <reticuli> I dont trust anyone affliated with sai baba now. I have heard that he is abusing children
[11:50] <gap_mouthed> Nancy isn't the "only" , if you understand what i mean..., but she has precies info...
[11:50] <cmel> is she affilated with sai baba ?
[11:50] <reticuli> ramala is
[11:50] <reticuli> what do mean gap?
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[11:51] <cmel> so what is the timeframe ?
[11:51] <gap_mouthed> Well, she say: I am the only one who provided the info (which probally in the main is true), but in the ramala books ...
[11:52] <gap_mouthed> there is also a reference to pole shift... (but don't see that explained on her site0
[11:53] <cmel> ok gap
[11:53] <cmel> I'll look into that later
[11:53] <gap_mouthed> She don't like Hazlewood .. i thought ... but he read also the Ramala books....
[11:54] <gap_mouthed> so he maybe thinks: Nancy it is not ALL yours
[11:54] <gap_mouthed> I am going to use also a lot of CapsLock
[11:54] <gap_mouthed> hehe
[11:54] <reticuli> I guess the zetas dont like hazlewood either
[11:54] <cmel> hehe
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[11:55] <cmel> ho ho ho ogmios
[11:55] <gap_mouthed> hi Ogmios
[11:55] <reticuli> howdy dude
[11:55] <gap_mouthed> everything oke with your bios?
[11:56] <gap_mouthed> hehe
[11:56] <gap_mouthed> sorry .joke
[11:56] <Ogmios> hi
[11:56] <gap_mouthed> hi
[11:56] <cmel> hi
[11:57] <gap_mouthed> obany are you with us ???
[11:57] <Ogmios> whats new
[11:57] <gap_mouthed> Ogmios : Do you know the ramala books??
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[11:58] <reticuli> hi jeremy
[11:58] <gap_mouthed> hi jeremy
[11:58] <Jeremy> hi reticuli and gap_mouthed
[11:58] <Jeremy> and the rest
[11:58] <gap_mouthed> hi ,
[11:58] <Ogmios> no i dont
[11:58] <gap_mouthed> well, oke
[11:58] <Ogmios> hi jeremy
[11:58] <Jeremy> Hi Ogmios
[11:59] <Jeremy> You know I have my days where I feel doubts about PX, but today I feel quite certain its going to return
[11:59] <gap_mouthed> hehe
[11:59] <Ogmios> why is that so
[12:00] <Jeremy> Mainly intuition, the weaking global economy
[12:00] <Jeremy> and seeing people whom I think are contactees
[12:00] <Ogmios> euro is stronger than US dollar
[12:00] <reticuli> something catastrophic will happen in 2003
[12:01] <reticuli> it may not be a natural disaster
[12:01] <gap_mouthed> obany are you back again?
[12:01] <Jeremy> contactees usually receive medical assistance from aliens, and the resulting scars are often located on the wrists, knuckles and fingers
[12:01] <reticuli> I go back and forth jeremy, I am waiting until I have confimation in december
[12:02] <Jeremy> yeah
[12:02] <cmel> and in the nose
[12:02] <cmel> I've had scars on the wrist, and in/on the nose
[12:03] <Jeremy> I look at people while on the move, say on the underground (subway) and I notice similar scars on their knuckles or fingers even that don't seem to me to be the result of a bad DIY weekend
[12:03] <sapphire> anyone have scars which had completely dissapeared
[12:03] <sapphire> ?
[12:03] <Jeremy> yes
[12:03] <cmel> I have had some
[12:03] <sapphire> i had a 5 inch scar on my left leg which came from an auto accident
[12:03] <sapphire> i had it for more than 5 years
[12:04] <cmel> and then ?
[12:04] <sapphire> then, few months ago I looked at my leg and there was no trace of it
[12:04] <Jeremy> some are actually minute incisions or 'slits' that heal up after a few days
[12:04] <sapphire> i had this for years, i was shocked that it was gone
[12:04] <Jeremy> oh
[12:04] <sapphire> but, now I can wear shorts
[12:04] <cmel> yes
[12:04] <sapphire> without thinking about it
[12:04] <sapphire> in any case
[12:04] <cmel> strange
[12:05] <sapphire> i don't know if this falls within body's healing, or something strange
[12:05] <cmel> Nor do we
[12:05] <sapphire> i've gotten both oppinions from doctors
[12:05] <Jeremy> I'm buying more survival food soon anyway
[12:06] <cmel> me too
[12:06] <Jeremy> really
[12:06] <cmel> and survival gear
[12:06] <cmel> yes
[12:06] <cmel> like good boots to start with
[12:06] <Jeremy> cmel: will this be your first step in preparing?
[12:06] <cmel> yes
[12:07] <cmel> it will
[12:07] <Jeremy> you're doing that right thing
[12:07] <cmel> but I'm not risking anything though
[12:07] <cmel> economywise
[12:07] <gap_mouthed> probally he is watching tv...
[12:07] <sapphire> i think it's always good to have gear, in case of earthquake, flood, etc.
[12:07] <Jeremy> well at least we can eat the survival food if the pole shift doesn't occur
[12:08] <sapphire> but don't buy just for PX
[12:08] <cmel> you're right sap. as allways
[12:08] <gap_mouthed> hehe...ned 2 Obany rigth???hhehe
[12:08] <Jeremy> use it at a party
[12:08] <cmel> hehe
[12:08] <sapphire> MRE's aren't bad, you can still use them for camping, hiking, etc.
[12:08] <gap_mouthed> hehe
[12:08] <sapphire> i have several cases
[12:09] <cmel> MRE = ?
[12:09] <Jeremy> sapphire: yeah I've got 24 self heating MREs
[12:09] <sapphire> Meal Ready to Eat, standard US military ration
[12:09] <cmel> k sap. :)
[12:09] <sapphire> i have about 40 heater bags too
[12:09] <Jeremy> oh
[12:10] <sapphire> i have also used empty 2L bottles to store water
[12:10] <cmel> but what happens WHEN u run out ??
[12:10] <gap_mouthed> Is NancyL her shoe dropped??
[12:10] <cmel> no shoe
[12:10] <sapphire> water came in handy when I forgot to pay the bill last summer
[12:10] <cmel> hehe
[12:10] <sapphire> i store just enough water to facilite a move
[12:10] <gap_mouthed> I am going to leave..Bye
[12:10] <cmel> bye gap
[12:10] <Jeremy> I've ordered 5 cans of non-hybrid seed sets for the long term i.e. when the rations run out
[12:11] <gap_mouthed> wait still.. a little moment...
[12:11] <cmel> k jer
[12:11] <Jeremy> see ya gap
[12:11] <gap_mouthed> Bye
[12:11] <gap_mouthed> Anyone know...the shoe...
[12:12] <gap_mouthed> ???
[12:12] <gap_mouthed> What it was ...still have to come..??
[12:12] <Jeremy> economic crash perhaps?
[12:12] <cmel> what should I do, little money little rescources, what do I do ?
[12:12] <sapphire> haven't heard Nancy mention "shoe" in several chats
[12:12] <cmel> thats right sap.
[12:12] <sapphire> I think she is waiting for something appropriate to occur--then she calls it her "shoe" dropping
[12:13] <Jeremy> cmel: start praying .. no only joking ... just try and form a group or join one where you can pool resources
[12:13] <cmel> yep
[12:13] <cmel> but I have to go to sweden to high ground you know
[12:13] <sapphire> aren't there neighborhood organizations in Denmark?
[12:14] <gap_mouthed> Well , i will leave..Bye
[12:14] <sapphire> for emergencies
[12:14] <gap_mouthed> Bye
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[12:14] <cmel> denmark's highest ground is 200+ m
[12:14] <reticuli> meditate
[12:14] <sapphire> yes, but PX aside...
[12:14] <cmel> beg
[12:14] <Jeremy> cmel: 600 feet above sea level roughly then
[12:14] <cmel> put
[12:15] <cmel> yes jeremy
[12:15] <cmel> it's flat as hell
[12:15] <cmel> :(
[12:15] <sapphire> check to see if wealthy individuals have ready access to helicopters
[12:16] <cmel> they have residences far away
[12:16] <sapphire> you'd figure they would, if PX were known to be coming
[12:16] <cmel> they are long gone
[12:16] <Jeremy> where are you in Denmark cmel?
[12:16] <cmel> copenhagen
[12:16] <Jeremy> ah
[12:16] <cmel> just at sealevel+
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[12:17] <obany> hi Jurian
[12:17] <cmel> hi jur.
[12:17] <Jeremy> hi Jur
[12:18] <Jurian> hey :)
[12:18] <cmel> we are thirsty for new material ..... hehe
[12:18] <Jeremy> cmel, what does the Safe Locations document say regarding Denmark during the shift?
[12:18] <reticuli> better have a boat
[12:18] <reticuli> :)
[12:19] <Jeremy> do what Noah did then?
[12:19] <cmel> it hardly mentions dk, but maybe thats because it's a noshow after
[12:19] <Jeremy> i see
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[12:20] <ukuz> :)
[12:20] <cmel> look at it 200+ max ..... and a big wave hitting it ... what would be there after ?
[12:20] <Jeremy> hello ukuz
[12:20] <ukuz> Hi
[12:20] <cmel> hi uk
[12:20] <ukuz> Hi Cmel
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[12:21] <cmel> what about you'r residence Jeremy ?
[12:21] <Angelic> hi
[12:21] <cmel> hi ang
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[12:22] <Jeremy> cmel: I'll be moving to mid-England, away from the coasts
[12:22] <Angelic> jeremy yo think england is safe inland?
[12:22] <cmel> into the mountains I hope
[12:22] <cmel> on top of the mont. it is
[12:22] <Angelic> what altitude?
[12:22] <Jeremy> Fortunately ZT says England has fared well during past pole shifts due to the solid underlying rock structure
[12:23] <Angelic> ah like sweden
[12:23] <cmel> who cares just the top
[12:23] <Jeremy> But the widening Atlantic will cause many parts to be flooded
[12:23] <Angelic> well, good you can stay in england
[12:23] <cmel> but the mountains
[12:23] <Jeremy> That's why ZT advises staying on high ground for at least a day after the shift
[12:23] <cmel> keep a boat there ... just in case
[12:24] <Jeremy> Main problem here is the population density
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[12:24] <cmel> why
[12:24] <cmel> too many ?
[12:24] <Jeremy> cmel: yeah nust get a boat
[12:24] <cmel> bust
[12:24] <cmel> hehe
[12:24] <Jeremy> yes the UK is overcrowded given the small size of the land area
[12:25] <cmel> ¨sweden is not, to the contrary
[12:25] <cmel> so a few danes wont hurt
[12:25] <Jeremy> Only 8 million there
[12:25] <cmel> yes
[12:25] <cmel> and a few nl's
[12:26] <cmel> you know Torbj
[12:26] <cmel> he lives in northern sweden
[12:26] <Jeremy> he goes to the ZT chat room on Saturday
[12:26] <cmel> he has a summerhouse in the mountains
[12:27] <cmel> yes he does
[12:27] <cmel> lucky bastard ;)
[12:27] <Jeremy> lucky for some I guess
[12:27] <cmel> sorry Torbj
[12:27] <Pott> Watch the mountain crumble hehehe
[12:27] <cmel> hehe
[12:28] <cmel> what about you ?
[12:28] <cmel> any of you have a retreat ?
[12:29] <Pott> I'd rather die than live in the darkness.
[12:29] <cmel> k pott
[12:29] <Ogmios> i'm close to sweden
[12:29] <cmel> I'm undecided ... hehe
[12:29] <Jeremy> Will be dim after the shift, but not sure how dim..
[12:29] <Ogmios> opposite of sweden
[12:29] <cmel> u r ogmios
[12:29] <cmel> in finland letland ?
[12:29] <Pott> Undecided how?
[12:30] <Ogmios> finland
[12:30] <cmel> wether I want to die or not, and wether I'm STO
[12:30] <Ogmios> southwestern coast
[12:31] <Pott> cmel: Personally I think that those classifications do not meet all orientations.
[12:31] <cmel> ups ogmois get out of there if you smell danger
[12:31] <Ogmios> yea
[12:31] <cmel> go to sweden
[12:31] <Pott> cmel: What would be wrong with deciding to remain neutral?
[12:31] <reticuli> you always say that pott, its just a convienent term'
[12:31] <Pott> Not really.
[12:32] <Pott> Not really at all.
[12:32] <cmel> nothing .... nothing is wrong you decide for you'rself
[12:32] <Pott> STO and STS is where order and chaos originate from.
[12:32] <Ogmios> my ancestors came few hundreds years ago from sweden
[12:32] <cmel> ok ogmois
[12:32] <Pott> I'd rather be right in the middle ;)
[12:33] <Jeremy> Pott: But you can't remain neutral, in the sense that you commit actions to other people in your life that can be classified as STS or STO. Being 'undecided' is really fluctuating between STS and STO behaviour
[12:33] <cmel> then be there Pott
[12:33] <cmel> sorry jer
[12:34] <reticuli> in sto, sts scheme neutral is sts
[12:34] <cmel> I disagree, one can stay in the middle, but I give you this, one cant stay for long
[12:34] <Pott> cmel: What a challange ;)
[12:34] <cmel> yep
[12:35] <cmel> keep your ballance
[12:35] <Pott> I've been known not to follow anyone else.
[12:35] <cmel> good for you pott
[12:35] <cmel> ;)
[12:35] <Jeremy> Well what happens like ZT says if you encounter a bleeding toddler after the pole shift. How can one remain neutral in that scenario?
[12:35] <cmel> no one can that I know of
[12:35] <Pott> If someone wants to ask for help then I don't have a problem helping.
[12:36] <Jeremy> Pott: What about the toddler example?
[12:36] <obany> but you won't do by yourself, only if asked?
[12:36] <cmel> I would pick him/her up
[12:36] <Jeremy> There's no middle ground in that scenario
[12:37] <cmel> you do or you dont
[12:37] <Pott> It depends Jeremy if the injuries were non-life threatening I would help if the toddler would definatly be dead soon I would probably just help out until death.
[12:37] <cmel> I agree
[12:37] <reticuli> what if you killed the toddler.. to put it out of its misery
[12:37] <Jeremy> Pott: Right so you have more or less opted for the STO stance
[12:37] <reticuli> sts or sto?
[12:37] <cmel> I would try to help the toddler to live
[12:37] <cmel> i think
[12:38] <Pott> reticuli: I might do that depending on how bad the toddler was injured.
[12:38] <Jeremy> You help to your best ability given the circumstances. That is STO
[12:38] <reticuli> you would kill the toddler is if was suffereing pott?
[12:38] <Jeremy> What happens if you encounter 10 bleeding toddlers?
[12:38] <reticuli> dinner
[12:38] <reticuli> ;)
[12:38] <Jeremy> urrr
[12:39] <cmel> cook them
[12:39] <Pott> reticuli: Better than watching the toddler swrim in utter pain.
[12:39] <reticuli> lol
[12:39] <cmel> bad joke
[12:39] <reticuli> yes, excuse me
[12:39] <cmel> :(
[12:39] <cmel> u'r excused
[12:39] <cmel> hehe
[12:39] <Jeremy> reticuli, what is the strongest earthquake you have experienced?
[12:39] <reticuli> 6.8
[12:40] <Jeremy> Can you describe what that was like please?
[12:40] <Pott> I'm sure even STS would help a toddler ;)
[12:40] <cmel> mine 1.432
[12:40] <Jeremy> oh
[12:40] <cmel> I'm not sure pott
[12:41] <cmel> would just walk by
[12:41] <Jeremy> Pott: if an STS person helps a toddler then they have nevertheless performed an STO act
[12:41] <sapphire> STS would probably go to great lengths to help the toddler, if it somehow ingratiated him with other survivors
[12:41] <sapphire> for example: women
[12:41] <obany> if it would help him
[12:41] <obany> or her
[12:42] <cmel> yes thats correct sp
[12:42] <cmel> sap
[12:42] <Pott> Or perhaps they just did what anyone would do.
[12:42] <reticuli> when it first hit it was really loud, like an expolsion. I was at work and dove under the desk. my boss was just standing out in th e open asking what was happenning, I yelled earthquake and told him to get under the table. he wanted to go outside and I yelled at him to get under the table. I thought it was exciting, I was in kind of giddy afterwards, other people were disoriented and nauseated
[12:42] <obany> someone who is STS would say what's in it for me
[12:42] <sapphire> exactly
[12:42] <Pott> I usually never say that hehehe
[12:42] <cmel> are you sts ?
[12:43] <cmel> pott
[12:43] <Pott> Nor do I usually say geez how does this benefit the others.
[12:43] <Jeremy> reticuli: So it was quite frightening then? I'm trying to imagine what the pole shift quakes are going to be like..
[12:43] <Pott> cmel: As I said I am neutral.
[12:43] <reticuli> I was not frightened.... but others were
[12:43] <reticuli> people were very disoriented
[12:43] <cmel> k pott
[12:43] <sapphire> earthquakes are relatively harmless if you are outdoors
[12:44] <reticuli> I was afraid about my family and such afterwards so I calld them
[12:44] <Pott> cmel: Besides I have good reason to believe I was already an STO being.
[12:44] <cmel> yes but you hardly are
[12:44] <reticuli> not in downtown seattle saphhy
[12:44] <reticuli> falling glass is dangerous
[12:44] <sapphire> that's not exactly "outdoors"
[12:44] <reticuli> its not indoors either
[12:44] <Pott> I suppose living a life of general selfishness has caused a complete neutralization of my orientation.
[12:44] <sapphire> here "outdoors" is not surrounded by skyscrapers
[12:44] <Pott> I kind of like it better.
[12:44] <reticuli> right
[12:45] <cmel> ok pott
[12:45] <reticuli> but certainly you have powert lines saphhy
[12:45] <reticuli> ?
[12:45] <reticuli> I guess there are no trees there
[12:45] <cmel> there has to be trees
[12:45] <sapphire> no power lines with a mile of here
[12:45] <reticuli> thats good
[12:45] <Pott> Don't wanna be one thing too long then you lose respect for anything that isn't like you.
[12:45] <sapphire> if i were outside, huge earthquake would only knock me over
[12:45] <reticuli> they are more common here, plder city
[12:46] <sapphire> I've felt 5.5 here
[12:46] <Jeremy> open field is the best quake survival spot then
[12:46] <reticuli> or swallow you up
[12:46] <cmel> the PL's is digged into the grounf
[12:46] <Pott> Best quake survival spot is in a plane ehhe
[12:46] <Jeremy> Pott: hehe
[12:46] <sapphire> open field is a cakewalk in huge earthquake, unless ground shifts under you, or sinkhole etc.
[12:46] <reticuli> jeremy, it was strange after the earthquake... people were very upset, confused
[12:47] <Jeremy> Pott: On second thoughts, no, because the high winds following the shift will probably bring down aircraft
[12:47] <sapphire> seattle, not known for quakes
[12:47] <reticuli> yes it is
[12:47] <sapphire> not to average guy on the street
[12:47] <Jeremy> reticuli: I see
[12:47] <reticuli> ic
[12:47] <Pott> Jeremy: How about suspended by bungee cords LOL
[12:48] <Jeremy> an idea :)
[12:48] <sapphire> i lived in Seattle for 12 years--never felt a quake--never even thought about it
[12:48] <cmel> but then again when do you do that
[12:48] <reticuli> this area will be utterly destroyed if px is true... multiple fault lines, volcaonoes and soft-clay soil
[12:48] <Jeremy> brb .. sorting dinner out
[12:48] <cmel> suspend I mean
[12:49] <cmel> you have to bee outdoors anyway
[12:49] <cmel> be
[12:49] <reticuli> there have been 3 quakes over 5.0 in the last 10 years
[12:49] <cmel> ok reti
[12:49] <sapphire> perhaps, but I haven't lived in Seattle since 1982
[12:50] <reticuli> seattle has a history of 9.0+ quakes
[12:50] <cmel> ok sap
[12:50] <Jeremy> ZT has termed the pole shift quakes to be off the richter scale i.e. richter 15
[12:50] <reticuli> they are rare
[12:50] <Pott> I remember one day I got home after work and I noticed the toaster was rattling a little and realized there was a slight tremour.
[12:50] <reticuli> those quakes would be unlike anything ever seen jeremy
[12:51] <Pott> So weak if you didn't know what you were looking for you wouldn't know what was happening.
[12:51] <sapphire> potential for earthquakes here in Las Vegas is high. The really big one just hasn't occurred yet. But it is a concern.
[12:51] <Jeremy> Pott: really, in SW Ontario?
[12:51] <cmel> ZT say's richter 15 because of the magnitude geographically
[12:51] <Pott> Jeremy: It happened up in the North but the effects travelled a long while
[12:51] <Jeremy> oh
[12:51] <Pott> 15 on the richter scale is too much hehe
[12:52] <cmel> over a large area
[12:52] <Pott> Rip the planet in half
[12:52] <Jeremy> Its gonna be shake, rattle, and roll
[12:52] <sapphire> there was an 8.2 outside Palm Springs couple years ago. By the time the energy got to Las Vegas...felt like I was on the ocean during storm
[12:52] <Pott> It probably won't happen though 1 trillion to 1 in my books.
[12:53] <cmel> can I place a bet?
[12:53] <cmel> just 20$
[12:53] <obany> brb
[12:53] <obany> shower
[12:53] <Jeremy> Pott: So why are you here? Do you just enjoy the debates?
[12:53] <sapphire> PX scenario sounds like there will be no real "epicenter" so actually impossible to measure magnitude
[12:54] <cmel> just what zt says
[12:54] <Jeremy> sapphire: good point
[12:54] <sapphire> just be outside
[12:54] <obany> pott joined just to give his negative comments all of the time ..
[12:54] <sapphire> away from tall buildings, of course
[12:54] <cmel> falling glass
[12:54] <sapphire> or falling buildings...
[12:55] <cmel> yes
[12:55] <sapphire> if building is 60 stories tall, better be mile away or more
[12:55] <sapphire> they could pancake like WTC, or they could fall sideways
[12:55] <cmel> better be out of the god damn city
[12:56] <cmel> :)
[12:56] <sapphire> true, gas mains will erupt too
[12:56] <sapphire> which means whole sections of city will catch fire
[12:56] <cmel> everyone will rush out of the city
[12:56] <cmel> as you've seen in movies
[12:57] <Pott> What about dangerous chemical storage?
[12:57] <sapphire> yeah, that too
[12:57] <cmel> like id4
[12:57] <sapphire> refineries could blow
[12:57] <Pott> That could prove to cause even more harm than PX
[12:57] <Pott> What am I saying PX ain't even there
[12:58] <sapphire> hehe
[12:58] <cmel> you'r pretty much fucked if you live in a city
[12:58] <reticuli> uhm, the earth's crust sliding over the mantle will dwarf any chemical refinery
[12:58] <reticuli> impossible to calculate the dmamge
[12:58] <cmel> correct reti
[12:58] <sapphire> best to be in "middle of nowhere" during PX scenario
[12:58] <Pott> The shape of the Earth suggests that it has held it's shape for a long time
[12:58] <Jeremy> nuclear reactors are a worry too
[12:59] <reticuli> yes, but believe me, that will be the least of your worries
[12:59] <cmel> but this time it wont
[12:59] <cmel> hehe
[12:59] <reticuli> if you even survive
[13:00] <cmel> he does, because he gets lifted up and placed somwhere else
[13:00] <Jeremy> a few serious believers I know are getting fit in preparation for the aftertime, you know the transition to a more physical lifestyle
[13:00] <cmel> hehe
[13:01] <Pott> May 15 will either be one of the most spectacular days ever or a complete bummer.
[13:01] <cmel> I'm ambivalent in opinion to all this
[13:01] <sapphire> life is easier all around, if you're in good fitness. Regardless of PX scenario
[13:01] <Jeremy> I'm trying to do more gardening now
[13:01] <reticuli> most people who survive the disaster will perish from being out of shape
[13:01] <reticuli> they will be food
[13:01] <Ogmios> not many big cities here. can say only helsinki is one
[13:01] <cmel> thats a good sign ogmios
[13:02] <cmel> not many to contest you'r preparations
[13:02] <Ogmios> about 30% finnish live near helsinki
[13:02] <Pott> While everyone is in their bunkers Nancy will be on her way to the Carribean.
[13:03] <sapphire> lol
[13:03] <cmel> hehe noone there
[13:03] <reticuli> i doubt it
[13:03] <Jeremy> reticuli: yes it's no joke that obese people could be well targets of hunters
[13:03] <sapphire> to join the people who created "Miss Cleo"
[13:03] <reticuli> since it will be clearly obvious in december if it is there or not
[13:03] <Pott> Well it should have been already
[13:03] <reticuli> hey, miss cleo was created in seattle
[13:03] <reticuli> !!!
[13:03] <cmel> then stop the discussion
[13:04] <Pott> But Nancy is foolish.
[13:04] <reticuli> well, I give her until december
[13:04] <cmel> wait plz
[13:04] <cmel> ?
[13:04] <Jeremy> Pott: Wrong Pott. If the reddish cross doesn't appear in early April I doubt that anyone will be in their bunkers by May 15th
[13:04] <Pott> reticuli: Then what?
[13:04] <reticuli> exactly jeremy
[13:04] <reticuli> then what pott?
[13:05] <Pott> What do you do in Dec when there is nothing.
[13:05] <cmel> life keeps going
[13:05] <reticuli> nothing
[13:05] <reticuli> I eat, wshit, work, mate as usual, as I am doing now
[13:05] <sapphire> I for one, wish I had a hidden bunker. Not for PX, but for all the other things that can still happen
[13:05] <Pott> What about all the PX shit only do it on the part time?
[13:06] <Jeremy> Well if Nancy was a fraud then she would find incerasingly difficult to maintain excuses over the next 5 months say
[13:06] <reticuli> what?
[13:06] <reticuli> i do not understand what you are gettting at pott?
[13:06] <Pott> Jeremy: It seems it is getting more difficult for her.
[13:06] <Pott> reticuli: No worries then
[13:07] <reticuli> ok, so what are you getting at?
[13:07] <Pott> Don't worry about it.
[13:07] <cmel> pott: leave it
[13:07] <reticuli> not worried, just curious
[13:07] <cmel> pott: let it lie
[13:08] <cmel> and reti : stop
[13:08] <Pott> Next time Nancy says "Ice Cubes" someone has to say "You ate the whole fridge and all your PX survival food now your down to Ice Cubes you fat bitch"
[13:08] <reticuli> thays all you potty
[13:08] <Jeremy> was that on the top of your tongue last Saturday?
[13:08] <Jeremy> top=tip
[13:08] <Pott> Naw
[13:08] <Pott> Agenty said it to me hehe
[13:09] <Jeremy> err yes
[13:09] <cmel> you would've been kicked
[13:09] <Pott> I know
[13:09] <Pott> I'm not stupid
[13:09] <sapphire> if obany was here, you'd have been kicked a few seconds ago :)
[13:09] <cmel> hehe
[13:09] <Pott> obany is away fucking Nancy.
[13:09] <Jeremy> Anyway Pott I do admit that you are behaving yourself now on the ZT IRC after gaining a reputation early on.
[13:10] <cmel> haha
[13:10] <cmel> from behind ? pott
[13:10] <Pott> I don't know if he would have enough reach.
[13:10] <reticuli> pott was subdued
[13:10] <reticuli> :)
[13:10] <cmel> ROTFL
[13:10] <reticuli> by the zetas
[13:10] <Pott> Yeah the gave me their anal probe
[13:11] <Jeremy> lol
[13:11] <reticuli> you wish pott
[13:11] <reticuli> :)
[13:11] <Pott> hehe
[13:11] <cmel> oh me too ... I liked that ... hehe
[13:11] <cmel> they got scared :)
[13:11] <Pott> Well obviously one person has been given the anal probe for sure.
[13:12] <Pott> ^----- Nancy
[13:12] <cmel> = c m e l
[13:12] <Pott> The Zetas give her the anal probe and she still wants to be their emissary.
[13:12] <cmel> I think I saw "her" on the ship
[13:13] <cmel> "she" has a thingy you know
[13:13] <cmel> hehe
[13:14] * Pott wonders if obany will hold on to Nancy's ass until the end.
[13:14] <cmel> you got scared too ??
[13:14] <Pott> Probably.
[13:14] <cmel> hehe
[13:14] <Pott> Atleast there is a lot to hold on to.
[13:14] <cmel> what about u pott r u scared
[13:14] <cmel> ?
[13:15] <Pott> I eat fear for lunch.
[13:15] * cmel smiles
[13:15] <Jeremy> how old are you Pott, if you don't mind saying?
[13:15] <reticuli> 13
[13:15] <Pott> 21
[13:15] <Jeremy> seriously though?
[13:15] <Pott> Yeah seriously/
[13:15] * cmel smokes pott ... puf .... puf ....
[13:15] <reticuli> my god
[13:15] <Jeremy> I thought you were older
[13:16] <Pott> How much older?
[13:16] <Jeremy> early forties
[13:16] <Pott> hehe
[13:16] <cmel> you mixed up the numbers it's 12
[13:16] <reticuli> lol
[13:16] <cmel> hehe
[13:16] <Pott> Think I am so young or something well yeah I admit I got a real bad taste for humour.
[13:17] <Pott> I say a lot of "Howard Sternish" things.
[13:17] <cmel> I'm stoned now no pott left
[13:17] <Jeremy> Im 31, you make me feel old :)
[13:17] * cmel says "wheres the pott"
[13:17] <Pott> But hey I like to speak my mind no matter how demented the thought.
[13:17] <reticuli> pott, your sense of humor is stunted
[13:18] <reticuli> it reminds me of kids who say poop over and over agsin and think its funny
[13:18] <Pott> reticuli: I'm not much for the kool-aid parties.
[13:18] <reticuli> ?
[13:18] <Pott> I can say BEER over and over again and think it's funny.
[13:19] <reticuli> you certainly could entertain 7 year olds
[13:19] <cmel> really ?
[13:19] <reticuli> sure, all he has to do is talk about nancy's butt
[13:19] <Pott> Not over and over again... but everytime my buddy and I go on a drunken walk we yell out BEER.
[13:19] <cmel> but it's a nice butt
[13:20] <cmel> hehe
[13:20] <Jeremy> Kool-Aid can be stored easily for the aftertime .. just add water
[13:20] <reticuli> yeah, I can see that pott
[13:20] <Pott> Kool-Aid sucks I want BEEEEEER!
[13:20] <Jeremy> Well in N.America anyway
[13:20] <cmel> then just add beer
[13:20] <reticuli> alcohol makes some people interesting, others it just makes retarted
[13:20] <cmel> what do I care
[13:20] <Pott> My buddy drank himself stupid on friday over 20 beers.
[13:21] <cmel> k pott
[13:21] <reticuli> was he proud?
[13:21] <Pott> Thats normal hehehe
[13:21] <cmel> hehe
[13:21] <Pott> Proud would be over 36.
[13:21] <Pott> You would be so drunken over that.
[13:22] <cmel> proud has no age
[13:22] <Pott> That is 36 beers in a night
[13:22] <Pott> Uncomprehendable for most.
[13:22] <cmel> thats a big hurdle
[13:23] <reticuli> stupid for most
[13:23] <Pott> Andre the Giant however could slam down over 150 beers in a night.
[13:23] <reticuli> yeah, I can see that
[13:23] <Pott> Thats 6.25 24's
[13:23] <Pott> hehe
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[13:26] <cmel> reti couldn't take it hehe
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[13:28] <sapphire> all that talk of beer, he probably went to get some
[13:29] <cmelaway> k sap
[13:29] <cmelaway> :)
[13:29] <Jeremy> hmmm
[13:29] <cmelaway> hhhmmm
[13:29] <Jeremy> hehe
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[13:30] <hhhmmm> hhhmm
[13:30] <hhhmmm> hehe
[13:30] <Jeremy> i really influence people..
[13:30] <hhhmmm> hhhmmm
[13:30] <hhhmmm> perhaps
[13:31] <Jeremy> I just noticed a rense.com article about an explosion of crop circles in Germany. I myself have noted that before
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[13:31] <Jeremy> hey Loitus
[13:31] <planetX> u r sure ? bout germany
[13:32] <planetX> hi loit
[13:32] <Jeremy> yes I have the rense.com link
[13:32] *** Loitius is now known as Loitus
[13:32] <Loitus> Hey...
[13:32] <Jeremy> http://www.swirlednews.com/article.asp?artID=446
[13:33] <planetX> it's amzing with the new CC's they r so detailed
[13:33] <Jeremy> Apparently 32 circles have been counted this year in Germany .. overtaking England
[13:34] <planetX> k jer
[13:34] <planetX> I don't count
[13:34] <Loitus> I heard rumors that Disney, in an effort to make people curious about Signs, would be doing a grassroots marketing campaign of planting crop circles domestically within the US
[13:35] <planetX> that sounds interesting
[13:35] <Loitus> Yup
[13:35] *** planetX is now known as cmel
[13:35] <Jeremy> Typical disinfo propaganda
[13:35] <Loitus> Wow... dxm is weird shit.
[13:36] <cmel> perhaps but it makes the common man more aware
[13:36] <cmel> and thats good
[13:38] <Jeremy> ZT has said that crop circle activity will increase
[13:38] <Loitus> Maybe they knew of disney's plan ;)
[13:38] <cmel> hehe
[13:38] <Jeremy> maybe .. they can get telepathically tune in to any human mind apparently
[13:39] <Loitus> Does PX give you the runs??
[13:39] <Loitus> I got em bad...
[13:39] <Loitus> :(
[13:39] <cmel> but they can ... according to ZT
[13:39] <Jeremy> Loitus: are you really nervous about PX?
[13:39] <Loitus> Not genuinely
[13:39] <Jeremy> right
[13:39] <cmel> good
[13:39] <Loitus> But I do have the runs.
[13:39] <Jeremy> hehe
[13:39] <Loitus> ;)
[13:40] <Jeremy> ZT has said that pole shift survivors will be constantly pooping
[13:40] <Loitus> damn
[13:40] <Loitus> Poor bum
[13:40] <Jeremy> yeah .. shit
[13:40] <cmel> then you're s(h)itting on the can right now
[13:40] <Jeremy> harhar
[13:40] <Loitus> Wow.. my dog looks dead...
[13:40] <cmel> hehe
[13:41] <cmel> damn ... hate it when that happens
[13:41] <Loitus> Oh well.. he wasn't.
[13:41] <cmel> dead dog = stew tomorrov
[13:41] <Loitus> mmm
[13:41] <Jeremy> Will anyone here try to adapt to a survival lifestyle prior to the pole shift, assuming they come to believe in PX?
[13:42] <cmel> not until the first sign of px
[13:42] <Loitus> Anyone ever feel their stomach fluids slosh around?
[13:42] <cmel> loitus whenever I move
[13:42] <Loitus> That has to be the nastiest sensation
[13:42] <Loitus> Especially when you hear it.
[13:42] <cmel> I find it funny
[13:42] <cmel> hehe
[13:43] <cmel> it's nature
[13:43] <Loitus> nature sux
[13:43] <cmel> cheap shit
[13:43] <Loitus> i swear my stomach is trying to communicate with me
[13:43] <cmel> sorry guys
[13:44] <cmel> when you're hitting on this hot chick, it starts making noices
[13:44] <Loitus> My stomach sounds like a Beluga whale...
[13:44] <cmel> hehe
[13:45] * cmel chuckles
[13:47] <cmel> so loitus do you have a partner / wife / ?
[13:47] <Loitus> I have a girlfriend... love of my life...
[13:48] <cmel> k ... good for you ... hold on to her (if you love her that is )
[13:48] <Loitus> I tripped into an interracial relationship, which is fun...
[13:49] <cmel> ok :)
[13:49] <Loitus> I love her more than I love life.
[13:49] <cmel> thats good
[13:49] <Loitus> I'm a gringo, she's puerto rican...
[13:49] <cmel> hold on to that
[13:49] <cmel> puerto gringo will be the child
[13:49] <Loitus> I will... I've lost love enough to know it is never to be taken for granted...
[13:49] <Loitus> ;)
[13:50] <cmel> sorry
[13:50] <Loitus> Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened :)
[13:50] <Loitus> My motto
[13:50] <cmel> nice motto
[13:51] <cmel> I like it
[13:51] <cmel> :)
[13:53] <cmel> do you have copyright on that ? or can one adopt it ?
[13:53] <Loitus> You may...
[13:54] <cmel> ok :)
[13:55] <Loitus> :)
[13:59] <cmel> so loit where will you go in case .... ?
[13:59] <Loitus> of PX?
[13:59] <cmel> yep
[14:01] <Loitus> Nowhere, I will enjoy what time I have left, I think it's egotistical to think my life is important that I must make preparations to survice, if I do, I do, if I don't then that's the way it was meant to be.
[14:01] <obany> brb
[14:01] <Loitus> is +SO
[14:01] <cmel> ok Loitus, that is one way to do things
[14:02] <cmel> I myself is undecided to whether I will try to survive or not
[14:04] <Loitus> I think if it was to go down and the Zetas are real.... then to TRY to survive, at least to me, is to be STO...
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[14:04] <cmel> but thoughts about aquiring stuff to help in the survival situation is there
[14:04] <Loitus> I'd rather let others who feel the need to prepare have the stuff I could have to prepare.
[14:06] <cmel> but I know if I met a derelict baby, I would have a hard time
[14:07] <cmel> hi gap
[14:07] <gap_mouthed> hi
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[14:07] <Loitus> I'd help afterwards if i survive... I think humanity has amazing potential but as we are now, we'll never meet it. If such an event happens then we'll have a chance to start over.
[14:07] <agentPX> hey guys
[14:07] <cmel> it took some time , but I saw you ... hehe
[14:07] <Jeremy> hey AgentPX
[14:07] <cmel> hey agent
[14:07] <agentPX> hi all :)
[14:08] <cmel> maybe I'm slow ??
[14:08] <gap_mouthed> Obany at the channel right now?
[14:08] <cmel> no
[14:08] <cmel> not active
[14:09] <gap_mouthed> Well,oke
[14:09] <cmel> so did you take a nap ?
[14:09] <gap_mouthed> gap didn't take a nap
[14:09] <cmel> gap
[14:10] <cmel> sorry
[14:10] <cmel> :)
[14:10] * Loitus is tripping hard
[14:10] <gap_mouthed> Anyone knows the Ramala books?
[14:11] * cmel thinks loitus is irritable
[14:11] <gap_mouthed> I give the call to the zeta's about the books
[14:11] <cmel> oh tha ramala books
[14:11] <cmel> the
[14:11] <gap_mouthed> cmel you know them?
[14:12] <gap_mouthed> Mark are you undercover now??
[14:13] <Loitus> Ir"ri*ta*ble (?), a. [L. irritabilis: cf. F. irritable. See Irritate.]
[14:13] <Loitus> 1. Capable of being irriated.
[14:13] <Loitus> 2. Very susceptible of anger or passion; easily inflamed or exasperated; as, an irritable temper.
[14:13] <Loitus> Vicious, old, and irritable. Tennyson.
[14:13] <Loitus> 3. (Physiol.) Endowed with irritability; susceptible of irritation; capable of being excited to action by the application of certain stimuli.
[14:13] <Loitus> 4. (Med.) Susceptible of irritation; unduly sensitive to irritants or stimuli. See Irritation, n., 3. Syn. -- Excitable; irascible; touchy; fretful; peevish.
[14:13] <Loitus> me?
[14:13] <cmel> no gap, but tomorrow I will start to read
[14:14] <cmel> Loitus : huh ?
[14:14] <agentPX> The Dow fell 45.34, or 0.5 percent, to 8,639.19. The Dow approached its post-Sept. 11 lows and the Nasdaq hit its lowest levels since May of 1997 before buyers stepped in and prompted a turnaround in the major indexes.
[14:14] <Loitus> You said I wa irratable...
[14:14] <Loitus> wa = was
[14:14] <cmel> did I touch something I shouldn't have ?
[14:15] <Loitus> Was wondering why...
[14:15] <cmel> well you seemed that way at the time
[14:15] <gap_mouthed> Will the ...take our gold away...
[14:15] <gap_mouthed> hehe
[14:15] <Loitus> hmm
[14:15] <agentPX> gap: the ?
[14:15] <cmel> away ?
[14:16] <gap_mouthed> The people from ...PX
[14:16] <cmel> gap
[14:16] <agentPX> hey someone was there saturday for the discussion with nancy? i was on a trip
[14:16] <cmel> I have the logs
[14:16] <Jeremy> Log is already on ZT
[14:16] <cmel> if thats what u're fisihng fore
[14:16] <agentPX> ok thanx
[14:16] <agentPX> was it interesting ?
[14:17] <cmel> it was ok
[14:17] <cmel> but not much
[14:17] <agentPX> something new ?
[14:17] <cmel> not really
[14:17] <Jurian> yes, the moon is actually made of cheese
[14:17] <sapphire> Nancy declared Al Gore Starchild
[14:17] <cmel> hehe
[14:17] <agentPX> lol
[14:17] <cmel> yes that was new
[14:17] <cmel> haha
[14:17] <Jurian> :P
[14:17] <sapphire> compared him to Ghandi
[14:17] <cmel> hehe
[14:17] <cmel> ROTFL
[14:18] <[123AWAY]> hoi ik ben buddha ;) en jij?
[14:18] <sapphire> said he allowed the Zetas to "float" him, when he had a broken leg
[14:18] <Jurian> ik ben je zus
[14:18] <[123AWAY]> buddhette
[14:18] <Jurian> :p
[14:18] <cmel> plz speak english
[14:18] <cmel> ?
[14:18] <Jeremy> We shouldn't assume that ALL star children are on equal parity. Perhaps each has a unique mission..
[14:18] <[123AWAY]> leuk he als hij het niet begrijpt wat we zegguh?
[14:18] <sapphire> my universal translator is down :(
[14:19] <agentPX> how come the Nasa dont put online on a website on a stream what hubbles see ?
[14:19] <cmel> yes I'm a starchild, I'm on a mission to straigten this chat out
[14:19] <[123AWAY]> lol
[14:19] <cmel> hehe
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[14:19] <cmel> but I'm crooked
[14:19] <cmel> :(
[14:20] <[123AWAY]> what is crooked?
[14:20] <sapphire> Nancy said obany is Starchild--can't remember which chat
[14:20] <cmel> it's not straight
[14:20] <Jeremy> agentPX: Hubble is tightly controlled
[14:20] <[123AWAY]> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHAHAHA sapph
[14:20] <sapphire> angelic: true but funny, yes
[14:20] <agentPX> JeremY: dont know why they wished to "hide" us something eh...
[14:20] <[123AWAY]> no way she said that
[14:20] <cmel> maybe my spelling was wrong
[14:20] <Jeremy> agentPX: and the images are perhaps edited before releasing to mass public
[14:21] <agentPX> so nancy thinks IMO is working for nasa... hmmm
[14:21] <Jurian> bbl, gonna go offline
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[14:21] <Angelic> later
[14:21] <agentPX> hey angelic whats up
[14:21] <sapphire> She didn't say directly. Obany ask ZT a question, ZT responded with reference to him being Starchild
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[14:21] <Angelic> hey PX all is ok.. and with you?
[14:21] <cmel> sap new ang was here :)
[14:22] <Jeremy> obany is a star child? are you obany?
[14:22] <Angelic> sapphire that is big nonsense
[14:22] <agentPX> angelic: nothing much, did alittle trip this weekend was fun and made me relax a littlre bit :)
[14:22] <sapphire> lots of ZT is big nonsense
[14:22] <Angelic> yeah was wondering where you was hehe out with the girls?
[14:23] <cmel> or the boys ?
[14:23] <agentPX> hmmmmm
[14:23] <cmel> like me
[14:23] <cmel> hehe
[14:23] <agentPX> with 1 girl lol
[14:23] <cmel> and I'm not even a priest
[14:23] <agentPX> away from the town
[14:23] <obany> sapphire.. i am not a star child
[14:23] <sapphire> Yes, the other new chat thing: Nancy obsessed with finding IMO
[14:23] <sapphire> obany: i'll keep secret
[14:23] <Angelic> well, sapphire, I say its nonsense because back in 1997 Gerard forwarded to me that the ZETAS told Nancy he's a young soul.. so I guess you are making it up :)
[14:24] <cmel> thats something new, and not worthwhile
[14:24] <sapphire> i'll check chat logs, maybe I mis-read something
[14:24] <agentPX> sapphire: i can understand she is obsessed with IMO.. he is bashing on all her statement and putting them down
[14:24] <Angelic> th zetas said i was paid by mj12
[14:24] <gap_mouthed> http://members.lycos.nl/webhtml/alien5.swf do you like my silly cartoon?
[14:24] <obany> so angelic why are you saying that ... i told you that in private .. so why should sapphire know that
[14:24] <sapphire> how much are you getting?
[14:25] <obany> or why does sapphire has to know that
[14:25] <agentPX> obany: did you met Nancy?
[14:25] <Angelic> relax obany, what is the problem? you think the zetas are always 100% true while it has already been shown that they are in fact not 100% accurate
[14:26] <agentPX> hahahahaha what the hell is that GAP : http://members.lycos.nl/webhtml/alien5.swf
[14:26] <obany> well i rather don't want those kind of things on the channel mentioned to other folks
[14:26] <Angelic> ten-four
[14:26] <cmel> have anyone of u met NL ?
[14:26] <Angelic> yes sir
[14:26] <obany> i don't want others to stick there nose into my personal life
[14:26] <cmel> you have ang ?
[14:27] <obany> crap
[14:27] <Angelic> not me
[14:27] <cmel> sorry
[14:27] <Angelic> yes sir was to obany
[14:27] <agentPX> obany?
[14:27] <obany> sappire: i rather have that you don't mention those things on your webpage ...
[14:27] <agentPX> did someone met Nancy for "real"
[14:27] <sapphire> Angelic: you know Ron Darby?
[14:28] <Angelic> not personally
[14:28] <cmel> my question asked again
[14:28] <cmel> agent
[14:29] <cmel> I haven't
[14:29] <sapphire> ZT said Darby also on payroll, I want to know how much these agents are making :)
[14:29] <Angelic> pretty much
[14:29] <cmel> u want to be on payroll
[14:29] <cmel> ?
[14:29] <cmel> sap
[14:30] <sapphire> cmel: no, just curious how lucrative it might be
[14:30] <Angelic> you get a new life at their expenses afterwards ;)
[14:30] <cmel> ok sap. hehe
[14:30] <agentPX> do you guys see something ? (was posted by grimbot alias sirgrim) http://www.wagd.com/newpxpicture.jpg
[14:30] <Angelic> lets see
[14:31] <cmel> no it was zoomed too much out
[14:31] <cmel> there was nothing to work with
[14:32] <Angelic> no nothing there at this resolution and size
[14:32] <cmel> we agree then
[14:32] <cmel> nothing
[14:33] <cmel> or dont we ???
[14:33] <agentPX> it was an image done the 13th of july
[14:34] <Angelic> it's not possible to see it on that photo
[14:34] <agentPX> obany or jeremy said 2 weeks ago the 13th of july was the best day in july for seing PX
[14:34] <cmel> yes , well I would have liked the raw image as well
[14:34] <Angelic> need a photo of it 4x the size at least
[14:34] <cmel> where is that ?
[14:34] <Jeremy> agentPX: I NEVER said that
[14:35] <agentPX> Jeremy: maybe obany then, i remember one of you posting the best date for sighting PX and for july it was july 13
[14:35] <obany> i can't remember mentioning a best date
[14:35] <Jeremy> agentPX: totally false. I have said we will have to wait until the autumn. Others here have witnessed those statements
[14:36] <agentPX> hmmmm
[14:36] <agentPX> im gonna look thru the log guys..
[14:36] <agentPX> lol
[14:36] <agentPX> http://us.geocities.com/openmindxx/OutOfSun.htm
[14:37] <cmel> IOM may be there LOL
[14:37] <cmel> IMO
[14:37] <obany> agentpx: sirgrim pixilated the area while at work .. and not with a normal PC or so
[14:38] <cmel> where is the raw pic ?
[14:38] <agentPX> [07:41] <obany> best viewing yes, but already vissible ...from about July 15 before dawn ....
[14:38] <cmel> I for one want that
[14:38] <agentPX> obany
[14:38] <Jeremy> agentPX: See, I told you
[14:39] <obany> it was in a discussion, and i said more in that discussion for what i remember
[14:40] <agentPX> jeremy: sorry i was remember it was one of you 2..
[14:40] <agentPX> i remembered
[14:40] <agentPX> obany
[14:40] <agentPX> i have the log..
[14:40] <agentPX> [07:41] <Motivez> best viewing now in december / january right obany ?
[14:41] <agentPX> [07:41] <obany> best viewing yes, but already vissible ...from about July 15 before dawn ....
[14:41] <agentPX> [07:41] <obany> just check the page i pointed to at yesterday
[14:41] <agentPX> anyway
[14:41] <cmel> why is it that it has moved from august to oktober/november ??
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[14:41] <obany> <sirgrim> it's image enhancement, not image recreation
[14:41] <obany> <sirgrim> it's the best you can do.
[14:41] <obany> <sirgrim> we arn't nasa here
[14:41] <agentPX> its not a personnal attack , im just reading the log of the last discussion and saw IMO has posted an image with "nothing" visible.. and remembered you said it was visible to see at this date
[14:41] <Angelic> obany, sorry I said what you rather not be said, it just was in automatic reaction to show why it's nonsense what sapph said that he read nancy said you're a starchild ok? :)
[14:42] <obany> about the pic from sirgrim
[14:42] <obany> well okay angelic .. and well i am not a starchild
[14:42] <Angelic> :-0
[14:43] <Angelic> I think we'd notice if somebody is :) like Al Gore ;)
[14:43] <cmel> yes you are I saw you on the ship ........ :)
[14:43] <cmel> hehe
[14:44] <cmel> so ang, what do we do about sirgrim
[14:44] <obany> nothing cmel
[14:44] <Jeremy> I just thought, the title of Will Smiths MIB2 single could be renamed 'PX is coming' instead of 'Black suits coming'
[14:44] * cmel smiles from ear to ear
[14:45] <cmel> just kidding oban
[14:45] <cmel> y
[14:45] <Angelic> lol jeremy
[14:45] <cmel> hehe jer
[14:45] <Jeremy> :)
[14:45] <Jeremy> That'd be a great way of informing folks
[14:46] <cmel> sure has a lot of marketing
[14:46] <agentPX> obany: i've found the link you were refering: http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use90597.htm
[14:47] <agentPX> its stated the viewing is "Not possible" in south africa and "Limited" in vancouver
[14:48] <cmel> obany u must have something to say about yesterdays bashing ??
[14:48] <agentPX> oops
[14:48] <agentPX> sorry the viewing in SouthAfrica is possible before dawn
[14:48] <cmel> hehe
[14:49] <obany> well you want to get the words out of my mouth.. well manipulation won't work at this time
[14:49] <cmel> in arabia viewing is not possible
[14:49] <Angelic> agentPX, how many hours before dawn? 24?
[14:49] <obany> and i don't like badmouthing, it sucks
[14:49] <cmel> ok obany, I hear you
[14:50] <obany> especialy if you are doing it behind someones back
[14:50] <Jeremy> SnookPoon, where are you out of curiosity?
[14:50] <cmel> no bad fealings from me though
[14:50] <cmel> I hope you feel the same about me ?
[14:51] <gap_mouthed> Do you know the Ramala books ,obany(Maybe i asked before ,sorry)???
[14:51] <obany> sapphire: don't put those comments that angelic made earlier on on that webiste of yours ...
[14:51] <obany> no i don't know those books
[14:51] <cmel> you did gap !!! (but nobody feels offended)
[14:52] <gap_mouthed> cmel ,what do you mean??
[14:52] <obany> i did read some books by Lysa Royal wich are interrresting ... i did read a book from Kim Carlsberg about here contact expierences
[14:52] <obany> i read communion, breaktrough, the secret school
[14:52] <obany> have 2 books at home by John E Mack
[14:53] <cmel> well It can get a bit tiring to hear about things over and over
[14:53] <gap_mouthed> Well, Hazlewood was also refering to that (book(s) , i thought
[14:53] <sapphire> obany: i didn't hear anything that important
[14:54] <gap_mouthed> So , i always wandered why th e zeta's didn't came up with that...
[14:54] <obany> okay sapphire
[14:54] <cmel> oh it's just the rules
[14:54] <cmel> gap
[14:54] <cmel> they cant
[14:54] <cmel> hehe
[14:55] <gap_mouthed> http://www.ramalacentre.com
[14:55] <cmel> how convenient
[14:55] <gap_mouthed> hehe
[14:55] <agentPX> im reading the logs and Nancy is really furious about IMO and she doesnt like him at all and what to trace him etc.. wonder why she want him more than people like Pott or others who are saying publically they dont believe in her story
[14:55] <cmel> shos hot on him
[14:55] <cmel> 'shes
[14:55] <cmel> shes
[14:56] <cmel> hehe
[14:56] <cmel> young blood
[14:56] <sapphire> she also said she wants to post his address so everyone can find him to give him a peice of their mind, so to speak
[14:56] <sapphire> kind of vindictive
[14:56] <cmel> yes kind of sts
[14:56] <Angelic> sapphire, isn't that a type of slander?
[14:56] <agentPX> let say PX really comes in 2012, could Nancy be a disinformation agent to see the reaction of how people deal with all this ?
[14:56] <Jeremy> Well the Zetas should know if IMO is conciously peddling disinfo
[14:57] <cmel> good q px
[14:57] <Angelic> Jeremy, the zetas could give nancy his address ;)
[14:57] <sapphire> angelic: it might be more along the lines of a threat
[14:57] <cmel> I was thinking that as well
[14:57] <cmel> px
[14:57] <cmel> !!
[14:57] <Angelic> obany, wat is inbreuk op privacy in het engels?
[14:57] <Jeremy> Angelic: maybe .. to the limits of their non-interference policy
[14:58] <agentPX> cmel: the evidence are not very positive for 2003 and i can feel some tension and nervosity in nancy's tone
[14:58] <cmel> angels ??
[14:58] <cmel> ang
[14:58] <Angelic> they could not give an address but can say al gore is a star child, say mj12 is real and stuff
[14:58] <Angelic> cmel?
[14:58] <obany> invasion of privacy.. so why would that be an invasion of privacy what Nancy did
[14:58] <Jeremy> agentPX: nancy is handling a higher volume of queries about 2003 now..
[14:58] <cmel> just a reference to what u said in NL-language
[14:59] <Angelic> it's invasion of privacy to have your address shown en public with the purpose of you being found by people who do not like you, and a threat like sapphire said just now
[14:59] <sapphire> can angels invade privacy?
[15:00] <Angelic> zetas are not angels
[15:00] <agentPX> Jeremy: what do you think about my previous question that Nancy maybe could be a disinformation agent receiving somes "fake" info from the aliens to see our reaction?
[15:00] <cmel> but angelic is ??
[15:00] <sapphire> actually, they are alot like angels/demons
[15:00] <Angelic> what am I?
[15:00] <cmel> an angel
[15:00] <agentPX> a zeta
[15:00] <agentPX> :P
[15:00] <SnookPoon> Jerrmy: Sorry I was away from the PC. I'm in the big flood zone...Florida.
[15:00] <Angelic> angelic means something like angel like lol but I am not
[15:01] <cmel> just a joke
[15:01] <Angelic> :p
[15:01] <Angelic> I am a cyclops
[15:01] <Jeremy> agentPX: I have considered that ZetaTalk could be a psychological experiment to see how a group of humans react. I doubt that now myself
[15:01] <Angelic> doubt that a lot
[15:01] <cmel> what if you go blind on one of you'r eyes
[15:01] <Angelic> I only got one
[15:01] <agentPX> and what make you doubt it ?
[15:02] <cmel> yes I know .... hehe
[15:02] <sapphire> what does this say about obany?
[15:02] <sapphire> http://www.xs4all.nl/~erikt/misc/persons/GerardZwaan.html
[15:02] <obany> i know that one sapphire so what
[15:02] <agentPX> i mean if we agree nancy is taking her ideas and facts from somewhere , what make you think its more real than "fake" ?
[15:02] <obany> that's from like 7 years ago
[15:02] <Jeremy> personal reasons .. plus all the effort with little reward for those conducting it. Do you think they would do all that to see how some talk in this chat room, or in the tt lists?
[15:02] <sapphire> so, I don't know what it says
[15:03] <obany> well i do
[15:03] <obany> and i find it no big deal
[15:03] <sapphire> is it positive or negative comment?
[15:03] <cmel> angelic you're silent
[15:04] <obany> well what do you think
[15:04] <agentPX> JeremY: imagine Nancy is getting some "fake" info, she wouldnt even know its fake she would think its true.. and be 100% sure about it because she is having a contact.
[15:05] <sapphire> i really haven't a clue, I don't do Dutch
[15:05] <sapphire> 6 years ago
[15:05] <agentPX> hehehe look at grimbot:
[15:05] <agentPX> http://www.xs4all.nl/~erikt/misc/persons/BenGrimm.html
[15:05] <obany> it's my native language so i know what it says
[15:05] <Jeremy> agentPX: In that scenario then, you are implying the aliens or spirits, whatever, are lying to her
[15:06] <Angelic> that is not grim :)
[15:06] <obany> that's not grim
[15:06] <agentPX> ahh ok .. sorry
[15:06] <cmel> not that grim
[15:06] <Angelic> more like anti-grim
[15:06] <cmel> :)
[15:06] <agentPX> thought Ben Grimm = grimbot
[15:06] <agentPX> lol
[15:06] <cmel> LOL
[15:06] <obany> agentpx: it's a dutch guy
[15:06] <agentPX> was sounding the same
[15:06] <Angelic> we got many dutch guys here, strange
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[15:06] <Angelic> hi sto
[15:06] <sapphire> aha, now we are getting somewhere
[15:06] <cmel> hi sto
[15:06] <agentPX> angelic: your marking a point here..
[15:06] <Jeremy> Hello STO
[15:07] <STO_WARRIOR> hi there
[15:07] <STO_WARRIOR> whats new guys?
[15:07] <cmel> al gore is a starchild
[15:07] <cmel> hehe
[15:07] <STO_WARRIOR> lol
[15:07] <Angelic> nancy met al gore and saw bush run away from zetas
[15:07] <Jeremy> 32 crop circles in Germany this year so far..
[15:07] <Angelic> 32? wow
[15:07] <STO_WARRIOR> does anyone remember jerry brown?
[15:08] <cmel> is that a record
[15:08] <agentPX> Jeremy: we even had cropcircle here in canada last week.. :)
[15:08] <STO_WARRIOR> he's a "star child"
[15:08] <Jeremy> agentPX: They are on the increase it seems
[15:08] <cmel> `Nancy Lieder says so
[15:08] <Angelic> obany hebben wij hier in Nederland nog cirkels gehad?
[15:08] <cmel> heaha
[15:08] <STO_WARRIOR> ex governor of california...ran for president also
[15:08] <gap_mouthed> I am curious do they enjoy making circles????
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[15:09] <cmel> LOL
[15:09] <ukuz> Is Nancy Dutch?
[15:09] <obany> angelic: ja zover ik weet bij Nijmegen in de buurt...
[15:09] <cmel> sure they have nothing else to do
[15:09] <cmel> us UKUZ
[15:09] <Jeremy> gap_mouth: I expect its easier for them then than the human hoaxers
[15:09] <gap_mouthed> http://www.dcca.nl
[15:09] <cmel> hi viking
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[15:10] <TheViking> Good evening.. or what do you have. 00:15 here in Norway
[15:10] <cmel> hows things in norway
[15:10] <agentPX> (click on the UK version for english)
[15:10] <Angelic> hey its a guy with horns on his head!
[15:10] <Angelic> thnx obany
[15:10] <TheViking> hehe no horns :-)
[15:10] <Angelic> then you are not a true viking
[15:10] <TheViking> I'm a nice guy (I think)
[15:10] <Angelic> are you the brother of vicky the viking?
[15:10] <TheViking> lolo.... Next summer I'll become a good old viking
[15:10] <cmel> hehe
[15:11] <TheViking> Nope
[15:11] <STO_WARRIOR> on a serious note.... if planetX fails to show up at the appointed time, please do not make the mistake of not preparing for collapse of society in general
[15:11] <cmel> but u r young now ??
[15:11] <cmel> hehe
[15:11] <Angelic> sto you are into the sex-industry?
[15:11] <TheViking> hehe 47 young :-) and you?
[15:11] <STO_WARRIOR> yes im in it
[15:11] <Angelic> how does that feel?
[15:12] <cmel> 32 vike
[15:12] <TheViking> m/f
[15:12] <Angelic> much old people in here
[15:12] <STO_WARRIOR> feels how?
[15:12] <Jeremy> STO: I might keep my survival gear for much longer anyway if the shift doesn't come
[15:12] <cmel> M u ?
[15:12] <agentPX> is the sex-industry affected by PX coming? lol
[15:12] <STO_WARRIOR> lol
[15:12] <TheViking> M
[15:12] <Angelic> lol
[15:12] <STO_WARRIOR> billions are spent annually on the net for it
[15:12] <cmel> but ofcourse
[15:12] <cmel> he he
[15:12] <TheViking> PX increases the need for Viagra :-)
[15:13] <agentPX> :)
[15:13] <cmel> viking are u from norway ??
[15:13] <TheViking> yes. I'm in the town of Moss.. U?
[15:13] <cmel> near Oslo ?
[15:13] <TheViking> 60 km south of Oslo
[15:13] <cmel> just south
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[15:14] <cmel> yeas I know my geography
[15:14] <TheViking> :-)
[15:14] <TheViking> Which country/town do you live in/near?
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[15:14] <cmel> jeg er fra danmark, københavn
[15:15] <cmel> no more danish
[15:15] <TheViking> hei du. hehe dere blir "våte på beina" neste sommer :-)
[15:15] <TheViking> Prepare for a vacation in NOrway next summer :-)
[15:15] <cmel> ja og du krvler op på fjeldene dine
[15:16] <cmel> jeg tænker på du
[15:16] <TheViking> May 17.th is our national holiday, so I hope PX waits 2 days so we can all dress up :-)
[15:16] <ukuz> Me'le Kalikimake Meke Haole Maka Hiki Hou...
[15:16] <cmel> du=det
[15:16] <cmel> hehe viking
[15:16] <agentPX> arretå de parler une autre langue je compråt rien
[15:16] <cmel> aloha UKUZ
[15:16] <Pott> TheViking: A very unlikely paradigm I must say.
[15:16] <Jeremy> wb agentPX
[15:16] <agentPX> thx je
[15:16] <cmel> they want us to speak english
[15:16] <ukuz> like the tower of Bable here...
[15:17] <TheViking> "paradigm"? please explain. enlighten me
[15:17] <Jeremy> tower of babble! :)
[15:17] <ukuz> hehe
[15:17] <cmel> hehe
[15:17] <TheViking> Pott: Please explain
[15:17] <ukuz> everone speaking their own language
[15:17] <Pott> If ya can't understand that then you should really question your ability to understand ZT.
[15:17] <agentPX> talking of the tower of babble
[15:18] <Pott> It was ripped down.
[15:18] <agentPX> they are going to build
[15:18] <cmel> it was agent that convinced me
[15:18] <Pott> It's gone now hehehe
[15:18] <agentPX> starting next year a big tower for 3oo,ooo peoples in japan
[15:18] <agentPX> so they can live, go to school , etc
[15:19] <Pott> Never have to leave the complex
[15:19] <agentPX> exactly
[15:19] <agentPX> isnt great :)
[15:19] <Pott> Woo woot some fun there
[15:19] <agentPX> loll
[15:19] <TheViking> We still got a few inland glaciers, so at least we'll have some fresh water a while :-)
[15:19] <cmel> woof
[15:19] <Pott> Ahhh that reminds me another inaccurate Nancy statement.
[15:19] <cmel> woof woof
[15:19] <Pott> She says and I quote "All glaciers are retreating" which is untrue there are still a few that are not.
[15:20] <cmel> wooat pott ?
[15:20] <TheViking> A small detail :-\
[15:20] <Pott> Most are but not all.
[15:20] <Pott> Still that blows 100% accuary out of the water alone.
[15:20] <Pott> accuracy my correction
[15:20] <cmel> but ther's alot of problems lurking in the himalayas
[15:20] <ukuz> Mars ice is melting
[15:20] <agentPX> pott: she did a generalization which is not that "inaccurate" as you try to show it
[15:20] <TheViking> It's the overall pricture that counts.. or?
[15:21] <Jeremy> ukuz: yes, mars is undergoing atmospheric thickening
[15:21] <cmel> to much water coming wodn
[15:21] <cmel> down
[15:21] <ukuz> sun is heating the planet
[15:21] <cmel> planet is heating itself
[15:22] <Jeremy> Jupiters magnetic field has also altered substantially in a short space of time
[15:22] <cmel> heat comming from underneath
[15:22] <agentPX> scientists are putting the melting of glaciers and polar caps more and more on the SUN which seem to have higher and higher temperature going on
[15:22] <cmel> thus big iceberg breaking loose
[15:22] <cmel> s
[15:23] <ukuz> extended Solar activity period
[15:23] <Jeremy> enjoy this summer, for those in the northern hemisphere
[15:23] <cmel> perhaps
[15:23] <agentPX> it seem the sun is in a stade of heating a lot
[15:23] <cmel> it's a pain
[15:23] <cmel> cant sleep
[15:23] <agentPX> Jer: thanx the summer has been great for now :)
[15:23] <STO_WARRIOR> got to run, bye everyone
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[15:24] <cmel> thats wy i'm here so much
[15:24] <cmel> why
[15:24] <TheViking> :-)
[15:24] <Angelic> <--- bored....gonna play some computergames later
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[15:24] <Jeremy> The FTSE today is at its lowest point for 5 years
[15:24] <agentPX> yep
[15:24] <cmel> what games do you play ?
[15:24] <cmel> DS
[15:24] <cmel> ?
[15:24] <agentPX> dowjones is a tils lowest point since 1997 too
[15:25] <Jeremy> oh
[15:25] <cmel> angelic
[15:25] <agentPX> cmel: hes gone
[15:25] <cmel> dooh
[15:25] <obany> the AEX is low too, is in Amsterdam
[15:25] <obany> Dutch
[15:25] <cmel> just me being unattentive
[15:25] <Jeremy> right
[15:26] <Jeremy> ZT has indicated an economic crash, but not a likely month. Any guesses?
[15:27] <cmel> well the danish market index is fluctuating accordingly
[15:27] <agentPX> Jeremy: it depend if you go for the may 2003 scenario or not
[15:27] <sapphire> ah, i just discovered the connection with Angelic
[15:27] <sapphire> Deze pagina is van het engels naar het nederlands vertaalt door Gerard Zwaan en Michael Angel.
[15:27] <Jeremy> agentPX: yes of course I imply that. So what month would you say on that premise?
[15:28] <gap_mouthed> More heat-> more extremely rain disasters...insurrence ...
[15:28] <gap_mouthed> ????
[15:28] <agentPX> jeremy: march 2003
[15:28] <Jeremy> ok
[15:28] <agentPX> not until march
[15:28] <Jeremy> just before the reddish cross appears then
[15:29] <agentPX> 1st people would not be able to see it with their own eye but would know about it on news
[15:30] <Jeremy> I expect worldwide tremors will rise just before naked eye visibility too; in Feb 2003 I anticipate
[15:30] <obany> sapphire you are realy in the search for stuff to put on your page , so you are diggint to get info about me ... well i am not going to give it
[15:31] <ukuz> what ifo?
[15:31] <ukuz> info?
[15:31] <obany> to put on his so called key players page
[15:31] <Jeremy> I have to hit the sack now. Goodnight..
[15:32] <obany> bye Jeremy sleep well adn take care
[15:32] <Jeremy> ;)
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[15:33] <agentPX> obany: you didnt answer me if someone from this chan or from the tt- lists ever met Nancy in persoN?
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[15:34] <agentPX> hey
[15:34] <agentPX> http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-10447559,00.html
[15:34] <gap_mouthed> http://members.lycos.nl/webhtml/imp.swf (some creation i made , what do you think of it?)
[15:34] <obany> i never met Nancy in person but there are folks who did ..
[15:34] <sapphire> Clipper Ordiway said he spent 5 days at her house
[15:34] <agentPX> ok sweet
[15:35] <sapphire> Roger Thuma said he spend "a week" there
[15:35] <agentPX> they enjoyed talking to her, and she seem "sane" ?
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[15:36] <sapphire> Ron Darby can tell you stories, he still posts on one of the "splinter" forums
[15:37] <agentPX> whats this site gap
[15:37] <agentPX> lol
[15:38] <gap_mouthed> I thought nancy could program one good flash ...conform the zeta's...
[15:39] <gap_mouthed> But maybe she has done enough..
[15:39] <gap_mouthed> obany you can also , right?
[15:39] <cmel> who Obany ??
[15:39] <agentPX> gap :`hehe coool
[15:40] <agentPX> the only animation i saw from her is the guy animnation
[15:40] <gap_mouthed> i saw an url (found on internet)
[15:40] <obany> and that's not flash
[15:40] <gap_mouthed> sort of link page..
[15:40] <gap_mouthed> swish?
[15:40] <gap_mouthed> or so?
[15:41] <obany> someting else no swish either
[15:41] <cmel> obany ... who = what
[15:41] <gap_mouthed> what's the url , as i don't know now ..
[15:41] <cmel> where
[15:41] <agentPX> hmmm cant find it
[15:42] <agentPX> sooo much pages..
[15:42] <cmel> obany do you know who, did in fact meet NL ??
[15:42] <agentPX> it a guy making somes sound and when you click on it he just make more noise
[15:43] <obany> there are no dutch folks who met her
[15:43] <cmel> click click
[15:43] <cmel> but ?
[15:43] <obany> agentpx: it belongs to the contact Nany page
[15:43] <cmel> us folks
[15:43] <obany> Nancy
[15:44] <cmel> just say if u know or not ????
[15:44] <gap_mouthed> Did you make something...an annimation or so?
[15:45] <obany> no gap
[15:45] <obany> geez
[15:45] <gap_mouthed> Well ,oke
[15:45] <cmel> wanna say ?
[15:45] <agentPX> obany is true
[15:46] <cmel> obany is wrong
[15:46] <agentPX> the animation is here
[15:46] <agentPX> http://www.zetatalk3.com/index/zetabusy.htm
[15:46] <cmel> he doesn't want to answer
[15:46] <agentPX> open the sound !
[15:46] <agentPX> click on the guy to repeat the animation
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[15:47] <agentPX> very fun
[15:47] <agentPX> hehehehe
[15:47] * cmel sighs
[15:47] <agentPX> it says "thoughts in tha house"
[15:48] <Pott> obany: I just read you used "folks" in a sentence Nancy like ;)
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[15:48] <cmel> hehe
[15:49] <ukuz> whats going on here?
[15:49] <ukuz> :/
[15:49] <cmel> a simple question = no answer (obany)
[15:50] <cmel> plz
[15:50] <obany> cmel: so what was your answer ??
[15:50] <sapphire> pott: i noticed that as well
[15:51] <sapphire> i've seen it before
[15:51] <cmel> well my q was do you know about anyone that has met Nancy Lieder ???
[15:52] <obany> and i did answer that question ......
[15:52] <cmel> when ?
[15:52] <obany> scroll back. I did said there are no dutch folks who met her
[15:52] <obany> so that kind of answered your question ... didn't it
[15:52] <cmel> yes but that onle means dutch !!!???
[15:53] <cmel> only
[15:53] <obany> and before that sapphire said something, about it
[15:53] <obany> cmel: so why do you want to know?
[15:53] <obany> is it of any importance to you ?
[15:53] <cmel> ok all that aside do you know anyone ...
[15:53] <cmel> yes it is
[15:54] <obany> there are some folks who met her... and why should i say who i think sapphire already mentioned some folks ...
[15:54] <cmel> i'm trying to establish whether or not shes real or not
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[15:55] <ukuz> maybe she has relatives in Switzerland?
[15:56] <obany> ukuz: she is not from Switserland
[15:56] <ukuz> ok
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[15:57] <obany> it was only a one minut ban .. :)
[15:57] <obany> so no big deal
[15:57] <gap_mouthed> I am going to leave...
[15:57] <ukuz> :)
[15:58] <gap_mouthed> Bye
[15:58] <cmel> obany big deal, why ?
[15:58] <cmel> I was asking legitimate q's
[15:59] <gap_mouthed> Bye
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[15:59] <cmel> bye
[15:59] <obany> and why do you want to know that from me ... if i know people who met her .. well i "believe" she is for real
[15:59] <cmel> to late hehe
[15:59] <cmel> well i'm in doubt, thats why
[16:00] <agentPX> cmel: just look at saphire webpage
[16:00] <obany> ther are people who met her, and she is real
[16:00] <cmel> k agent
[16:00] <agentPX> he has some nices comments about ppl being with nancys
[16:00] <agentPX> http://www.skepticalmind.com/zetacult.html
[16:01] <lsg> can anyone help me with an IRC problem? I'm trying to connect to irc.coolchat.net but it won't let me...
[16:01] <cmel> yes well obany I've seen a pic, but that doesen't convince me
[16:01] <lsg> it gets stuck on **** Got Ident response
[16:01] <cmel> guess I'll have to wait.....
[16:01] <sapphire> ohhh, i see what cmel is asking. Perhaps Nancy is a cover for something/someone else.
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[16:03] <cmel> thats it sap
[16:03] <cmel> thats why
[16:03] <ukuz> what would be her motive tho?
[16:03] <agentPX> did you read the comments
[16:04] <cmel> i'v read ZT since 1998
[16:04] <obany> ooh come on cmel .. she is as real as you and me .. i am sure about that
[16:04] <cmel> are you ???
[16:04] <cmel> I'm not
[16:04] <obany> YES i am
[16:04] <agentPX> cmel: if think she isnt real: http://www.skepticalmind.com/nancy_at_home.htm
[16:04] <cmel> but then again I question everything :)
[16:05] <sapphire> oh yeah, it shows the fish tanks too
[16:05] <cmel> hehe
[16:05] <agentPX> sapp: which seem real too :)
[16:05] <agentPX> hahaha
[16:05] <sapphire> looks that way
[16:06] <cmel> sorry obany you don't convince me
[16:06] <Pott> cmel: The best think obany can produce is links to ZT site.
[16:06] -agentPX- doesnt she seem to have some notoriety and doesnt she convince you on that picture ? http://www.skepticalmind.com/nancy_at_home_files/l-3.jpg
[16:06] <sapphire> wait a minute, I've seen Planet X Video with nancy interview, she is real person, unless an actor
[16:07] <cmel> yes well .... hhmm but they are good links
[16:07] <cmel> hehe
[16:07] <cmel> k sap
[16:08] <agentPX> sapp: could you try to encode a small part of the vid (the essential part) and put it on your website ? (i dont think nancy will have any objections since she isnt doing this for $$$)
[16:08] <sapphire> so, cmel, you're only remaining possibility is that she is an actor who is playing someone named Nancy Lieder
[16:08] <sapphire> you're = your
[16:09] <obany> and how do we know that cmel is not an actor playing cmel ... ooh come on cmel ... what's your point of doubting that she is a real person
[16:09] <obany> are you real ?
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[16:09] <agentPX> cmon at this point i think its evident nancy is real
[16:10] <agentPX> but the question is more is the info is real?
[16:10] <cmel> well I doubt that u r a real person, heck I doubt myself
[16:10] <obany> well i am for real ...
[16:10] <obany> sitting behind my PC, and wll kinda tired
[16:10] <agentPX> eh
[16:10] <cmel> k obany , but am I
[16:10] <cmel> ?
[16:11] <agentPX> cmel: without any doubt you are a person
[16:11] <Pott> The info real well doubtful
[16:11] <agentPX> living on earth and writing on your keyboard
[16:11] <cmel> how can u be sure agent
[16:12] <obany> well yes i think you are ... and so is Nancy. She is a real person, and not some kind of actor playing her
[16:12] <obany> okay i go now
[16:12] <obany> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[16:12] <agentPX> bye oban
[16:12] <cmel> bye obany
[16:13] <cmel> but I know u know what I speak of !!
[16:13] <Pott> The Z's are playing her rather
[16:13] <cmel> perhaps
[16:13] <Pott> <aybe
[16:13] <cmel> thats one window
[16:13] <agentPX> obany: goodnight take care sleep well welterusten :)
[16:13] <Pott> Or is she playing herself
[16:14] <Pott> Seems to be mind-mangled if you ask me
[16:14] <obany> sure sure agentpx ..
[16:14] <cmel> maybe uøre right
[16:14] <cmel> u're
[16:14] <obany> take care bye and goodnight people
[16:14] <cmel> goodnight
[16:15] <obany> welterusten is like hava a good rest
[16:15] <obany> rust=rest
[16:15] <obany> bye
[16:15] <agentPX> cool
[16:15] <cmel