Session Start: Wed Jul 31 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #Troubled_Times
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[01:21] <sirgrim> hi
[01:22] <JurAFK> hey :)
[01:23] <sirgrim> sup
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[01:24] <Jurian> not much really
[01:24] <Jurian> you?
[01:27] <sirgrim> not much
[01:27] <sirgrim> cheelin
[02:00] <sirgrim> anything new?
[02:07] <Jurian> not really, should get my smartcard writer today, so I can write my own satellite tuner cards and watch whatever the fuck i want :)
[02:14] <sirgrim> heh
[02:16] <onlainari> it's hot here
[02:16] <onlainari> in finland :p
[02:17] <onlainari> Tie 3; Helsinki, Pirkkola, mitattu klo 11:10: 30.3°C, poutaa. Tien lämpötila 38.3°C, tien pinta kuiva.
[02:17] <onlainari> usually never over 30c
[02:19] <Jurian> woah
[02:19] <Jurian> nasty shit
[02:19] <Jurian> whole of europe seems to be boiling hot
[02:19] <Jurian> I hate that :/
[02:20] <onlainari> jurian where are you?
[02:20] <onlainari> netherlands?
[02:20] <Jurian> in holland now, going back to sweden on sunday
[02:20] <onlainari> okay
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[02:39] <sirgrim> *yawns*
[03:11] <sirgrim> cool you can see the IIS passing for the next month
[03:11] <sirgrim> ISS
[03:12] <Jurian> :D
[03:16] <sirgrim> gonna bust out the telescope at 11:04 PM tonight and take a look at it
[03:16] <sirgrim> so i can say i seen the ISS without paying 20 mil
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[03:50] <Jurian> hehe :)
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[03:57] <FunBot> [obany] <-- Coffee, tea, fish and internet addict!
[03:57] <sirgrim> hi
[03:57] <obany> mmmm gee a bible loving guy on tt-social ..  
[03:58] <obany> wierdo
[03:58] <obany> hi grim
[03:58] <sirgrim> hollow
[03:58] <obany> from that site of his
[03:58] <obany> or her
[03:58] <obany> In some way she is THE antichrist. Obviously higher powers are not amused, and aren't ready
[03:58] <obany> to throw her good presents when her time has come.  Obviously she is walking a fine line between being a "messenger" and a false prophet/antichrist.
[03:59] <obany> http://www.geocities.com/truth_aerator/main.html
[03:59] <sirgrim> see those new 'pictures of PX' lol
[03:59] <sirgrim> yea i read that page last night obany hehe
[03:59] <sirgrim> quite comical
[04:00] <obany> yup. anyway brb :)
[04:01] <sirgrim> i'm surprised the guy i met at Perkinn's hasn't e-mailed me yet, he said he was gonna look@wagd
[04:02] <sirgrim> says he wrote a book on UFO's and stuff cause his wife is a contactee
[04:16] <obany> aha
[04:23] <obany> interresting
[04:31] <sirgrim> i like going around and posting PX pages on web boards with nothing to do with px
[04:32] <obany> uuh did you do that???
[04:32] <sirgrim> occasionally
[04:33] <obany> i did the same thing some years ago . and gee i got some negative comments
[04:37] <obany> they compared me with a member of the Church of Scientology ... because at that time there where some problems between the COS and some dutch ISP's
[04:40] <sirgrim> heh
[04:41] <sirgrim> yea well i get people tellin me how stupid i am all the time
[04:52] <sirgrim> god my boss is an idiot
[04:53] <sirgrim> yelling at me for not responding to his e-mails
[04:53] <sirgrim> WHEN I HAVN'T FUCKING BEEN HERE TO GET THEM
[04:53] <sirgrim> what a moron
[04:54] <sirgrim> god i almost sent an e-mail to his boss bitching about it
[04:54] <sirgrim> but i guess i wont
[04:54] <sirgrim> pft
[04:54] <sirgrim> respond to his emails when i'm not here, how fucking godlike does he think I am
[05:05] <Jurian> hehe
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[05:12] <sirgrim> some peoples
[05:15] <obany> sirgrim: did you read about the train accident?? on tt-watch ?
[05:16] <onlainari> what did they say about it there
[05:17] <sirgrim> obany: already got 13 hits to wagd today from 1 board i posted it on lol
[05:17] <sirgrim> obany: yes
[05:18] <obany> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/messages
[05:20] <sirgrim> this board will be on my top 10 refers list soon heh
[05:22] <sirgrim> ahh finally starting to get the divx's i've been waiting in queue for all night
[05:22] <sirgrim> 'bouts time
[05:22] <obany> " Interesting to note that now the same NTSB
[05:22] <obany> spokesperson says the alignment was off as much as 30
[05:22] <obany> inches now.
[05:22] <obany> Makes me think of what the Z's said about underground
[05:22] <obany> infernos.
[05:26] <obany> it's from tt-watch .. an email ......
[05:31] <onlainari> why ppl keep arguing about the facts and possibilities of PX coming and its speed etc,I think that PX has already been proved so wrong that if the aliens/destiny "brings" it here,it don't require any physics laws,so I suggest believers to just keep believing and not trying to prove anything :)(
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[05:34] <obany> because a lot of people have doubts, and rahter play doubting thomas until they have real vissible proof
[05:34] <obany> that's why some will go into endless debates
[05:35] <obany> and endless debates won't stop a pole shift
[05:36] <Jurian> nor will blindly believing it cause one
[05:37] <obany> Jurian: i know you think it's like blind believe for me .. but you know me and you know it's different for me
[05:38] <obany> okay you will say i sound like one
[05:38] <obany> :)
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[05:38] <Jurian> yes, you do :p
[05:38] <obany> but let's not go into that argument again
[05:38] <Jurian> hehe
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[05:39] <obany> now you laugh .. ;PPPPPP
[05:39] <obany> :)
[05:40] <Jurian> of course :)
[05:40] <obany> hey as long as you don't turn into the guy from that webpage
[05:40] <obany> the bible loving guy ....
[05:44] <Jurian> eh? :)
[05:44] <Jurian> I will never turn into a bible lover :p
[05:45] <Jurian> I despise religion :p
[05:46] <obany> just a quote from that site of his
[05:46] <obany> Furthermore Nancy is doing heresy.  My savior is Lord Jesus, not some 4 foot
[05:46] <obany> bugger! Nancy believes more in alien saviors than in our savior, Lord Jesus!
[05:47] <obany> go figure
[05:47] <Jurian> lol
[05:47] <obany> as for what i know, nowhere in zetatalk is stated that they call themself saviors
[05:48] <obany> if i am right it even says that we must save ourselfs or so ...
[05:49] <Jurian> yep
[05:50] <obany> guess he is pissed off or so, becauce it disagrees with his beliefs... ooh well
[05:51] <obany> it's hard to argue with those kind of people ... .. mmm don't compare me with that guy becuase i take ZT serious ...
[05:51] <Jurian> hehe
[05:51] <Jurian> well, in a way, you do act the same :p
[05:51] <Jurian> you have reasons, other people do not have, to believe in the zeta message
[05:51] <obany> yes
[05:52] <Jurian> there IS no real proof of it being real or not, just like the bible
[05:52] <Jurian> so in a way, you do behave the same, yet also very different :)
[05:52] <obany> and some of thoe reasons are personal maybe if it the same things would have occured to you you also would think differnent about it
[05:52] <obany> but you are not me, and i am not you
[05:54] <Jurian> nope :-)
[05:54] <Jurian> I know the reasons are personal :)
[05:54] <Jurian> but they do not prove anything, for anyone else
[05:55] <Jurian> so you cannot expect others to have the same belief in zt as you have :)
[05:56] <obany> well i know
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[06:03] <LE_RENARD__> hi
[06:03] <LE_RENARD__> greetings zetadrones!
[06:03] <obany> hi le_retard
[06:03] <obany> :P
[06:04] <LE_RENARD__> so like, gerard, where's planet x again?
[06:04] <Jurian> its having mad sex with pluto at the moment
[06:04] <obany> not on the top of my nose, renard ... so go bother some folks on sci.astro
[06:04] <obany> Jurian :P
[06:04] <obany> ehhehe
[06:04] <LE_RENARD__> lol obany
[06:05] <LE_RENARD__> you dont have the brain to think by yourself?
[06:05] <obany> i have a brain yes....
[06:05] <obany> and i can think for myself
[06:05] <LE_RENARD__> well you dont use it then
[06:05] <obany> doh
[06:05] <LE_RENARD__> you only believe what your hight pristess says
[06:05] <obany> a please renard stfu
[06:05] <sirgrim> god you're a useless waste of skin
[06:06] <LE_RENARD__> sirgrim zetadrone
[06:06] <sirgrim> love to argue with your stupid ass, but i gotta go
[06:06] <sirgrim> since you do a good enough job of looking stupid, i guess i'm not needed
[06:06] <sirgrim> ta-ta
[06:06] <LE_RENARD__> at least obany is a fine dood, you really are a retard sirgrim
[06:07] <LE_RENARD__> bunch of mindless idiots, dont you realize nancy leider is messing with you?
[06:07] <obany> what's the use of name calling
[06:08] <obany> we are not mindless renard
[06:08] <LE_RENARD__> well you do seem like obany
[06:08] <LE_RENARD__> well anyway, gotta work to do
[06:08] <sirgrim> renard is a mindless sci.astro follower, going to ZT to talk shit so they think he's cool and fits in
[06:08] <LE_RENARD__> bye
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[06:08] <obany> geez
[06:08] <obany> at least sapphire and he disagrees behaves ...
[06:08] <obany> but renard
[06:09] <obany> is a jackass
[06:09] <obany> acting like that for months now
[06:09] <obany> he just joins in to piss us of ...
[06:09] <obany> to see how we react
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[06:11] <Jurian> banned now :p
[06:11] <obany> better
[06:12] <Jurian> banned the whole network :)
[06:12] <Jurian> http://www.combodata.nl/tools/whois.html?domain=200.63.199.135&WS=whois.lacnic.net
[06:12] <Jurian> :D
[06:13] <obany> :)
[06:13] <obany> that guy is like that for months in a row now
[06:13] <Jurian> yep
[06:14] <obany> name calling etc etc
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[06:24] <Juna> hello people! are there anybody from Russia?
[06:25] <obany> not me i am from the Netherlands
[06:28] <onlainari> juna,aren't u from estonia
[06:30] <Juna> yeah, I'm from Estonia but I speak Russian (I'm glad that you know about our country, coz many people don't)
[06:30] <Juna> oh, and sorry for my english...
[06:30] <onlainari> np...of cuz I know your country ..I visit there every year:)
[06:31] <Juna> really? :) do you like it?
[06:31] <Juna> btw, where are you from?
[06:31] <onlainari> i'm from finland :)
[06:32] <Juna> ahhah!! what's why you visit us every year!! :))
[06:32] <onlainari> to get drunk :p
[06:32] <onlainari> cheap there..and cheap to go with the boat u know
[06:32] <onlainari> TALLINK
[06:32] <Juna> yeah, yeah - I know... here are many finnish like you ;)
[06:33] <Juna> did you visit Kadaka?
[06:33] <onlainari> yep :
[06:33] <onlainari> no,what's that
[06:33] <onlainari> do you know Lasso baar ?
[06:34] <Juna> what's shopping center. there are usually very very many finnish. (am I spelling right - finnish?)
[06:34] <onlainari> yes you are
[06:34] <Juna> no I don't
[06:34] <onlainari> lasso baar strip bar in tallinn..it's quite expensive though :p
[06:34] <Juna> I mean I don't know this bar :) In the centre of Tallinn yeah? :)
[06:35] <onlainari> somewhere there yeah
[06:35] <Juna> I'm too young to visit such places ;)
[06:35] <onlainari> ok
[06:35] <onlainari> hehe,later then :)
[06:35] <Juna> ;)
[06:36] <onlainari> it's close to viru hotel
[06:36] <onlainari> I think
[06:36] <onlainari> on the way to the harbour
[06:36] <onlainari> where tallink goes
[06:36] <Juna> ok ok. from now, I'll know where are strip bar :))
[06:36] <onlainari> so is this shopping center some new place ?
[06:37] <onlainari> kadaka
[06:37] <Juna> no. it's old... and know there is reconstruction
[06:37] <onlainari> mustamäetori....
[06:37] <Juna> yeah!! :)
[06:37] <onlainari> same kind of thing?
[06:38] <Juna> yes
[06:38] <onlainari> cool
[06:38] <Juna> so, what are ya doing here? ;)
[06:38] <onlainari> i'm here to discuss bout troubled times topics :) planet x and so on :)
[06:39] <Juna> me too. but I'm pretty confused about this stuff...
[06:39] <Juna> do you believe it?
[06:39] <onlainari> no..
[06:39] <onlainari> you?
[06:40] <Juna> i don't know.... that's why i'm here :)
[06:40] <onlainari> u don't get the correct answer from here :)
[06:40] <onlainari> maybe you get it from the #zetatalk if you believe nancyl :)
[06:41] <onlainari> on saturday
[06:41] <Juna> but, I can hear other people opinions... may be :)
[06:41] <onlainari> yeah...it's varying here...some believes ,some don't
[06:41] <onlainari> but it's more like ..will the aliens come here? will the planet x come?
[06:42] <Juna> aliens already came... long time ago :) they are here
[06:42] <onlainari> heh
[06:42] <Juna> have you already thought up place there you'll be hiding?
[06:42] <Juna> :)
[06:42] <onlainari> nope
[06:43] <Juna> there do you live? i mean, city
[06:43] <onlainari> but if it would start look it's coming...at least I'll get the information some like 7 weeks before...maybe then go to my grandma's place..it's more inland :P
[06:43] <onlainari> I live 30km north from Helsinki... Kerava
[06:44] <onlainari> so the ocean is very close
[06:44] <onlainari> and u too if u live in tallinn
[06:44] <Juna> yeah, i live in tallinn. it will sink (if it is true) in few hours... i think
[06:45] <onlainari> ye,and u would never see lasso baar and it's girls
[06:45] <onlainari> :()
[06:45] <Juna> :(
[06:45] <Juna> btw how much is the price?? 8))
[06:46] <onlainari> don't remember
[06:46] <onlainari> it was MUCH
[06:46] <onlainari> more than the other strip place in estonia
[06:46] <onlainari> which I don't remember really cuz I was drunk
[06:46] <onlainari> too much
[06:46] <Juna> lol
[06:46] <onlainari> lasso baar..there's limousine front of their door
[06:46] <onlainari> and stuff
[06:47] <Juna> oh, I remember!! :) Now i remember there it is
[06:47] <Juna> cool place i think...
[06:47] <Juna> are there pretty girls? :)
[06:48] <onlainari> yes
[06:48] <onlainari> they're ok
[06:50] <Juna> other people sleep or what???
[06:51] <onlainari> I think so...it's a midnite in america
[06:52] <Juna> :)) yeah, of course they're sleeping!!
[06:52] <Juna> what are you doing now?
[06:52] <onlainari> chatting,and talking about the festival that is next weekend
[06:53] <onlainari> it's hot day... +30 here
[06:53] <onlainari> thought Id go swimming too heh
[06:54] <Juna> yeah, here is very ho too... +32 :)
[06:54] <Juna> waht the festival?
[06:54] <Juna> i mean what the festival?
[06:55] <Juna> fuck,  I have to go... sorry... bye!!
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[07:26] <agentPX> what is this:
[07:26] <agentPX> http://www.webspawner.com/users/mandurek/index.html
[07:28] <obany> i have seen that page .. agentpx.. and altough that guy says it ain't .. to me it seems like a hoax
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[07:30] <agentPX> yeah
[07:30] <agentPX> to me too
[07:30] <obany> somtimes it's just way to obvious
[07:31] <agentPX> the pics looks fake
[07:31] <agentPX> especially #2 and #3
[07:32] <obany> like it is a guy who wants to see if people fall for it...
[07:32] <obany> anyway i go now
[07:32] <obany> will return later
[07:32] <agentPX> ok
[07:32] <agentPX> see ya
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[08:51] <IQx> Hya Everyone
[08:52] <IQx> sirgrim: got a bnc for me ?
[08:54] <JurAFK> lol
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[08:54] <Jurian> bnc whore :p
[08:54] <IQx> Jurian: Just one =P
[08:54] * Jurian has one :p
[08:54] <Jurian> /whois juraway
[08:54] <Jurian> :p
[08:54] <IQx> Private ?
[08:54] <IQx> Ahaha
[08:55] <Jurian> most definately private :p
[08:55] <IQx> So so private.
[08:57] <Jurian> :)
[08:57] <IQx> -Sigh-
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[09:02] <Jurian> nasty
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[09:58] <Freax> uugh, this frien thing is really getting to me
[09:59] <Freax> friend rather
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[10:11] <Jeremy> hello
[10:11] <Freax> hi
[10:12] <Jeremy> hello freax, did I wake you up ? :)
[10:12] <Freax> nope
[10:12] <Jeremy> you just heard the ping when I said 'hello' then ?
[10:12] <Freax> although if i had my ncd monitor left on in my bedroom you would have
[10:12] <Freax> wha oh no
[10:12] <Jeremy> oh
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[10:13] <Freax> the stereo isnt on =)
[10:13] <Jeremy> what time is it there?
[10:13] <Freax> 3:13
[10:13] <Jeremy> am
[10:13] <Freax> nod
[10:14] <Freax> i should be leaving for town in about 6 hours
[10:14] <Freax> or 5 1/2 hours =P
[10:14] <Jeremy> when are you going to bed !?
[10:14] <Freax> oh prolly 4
[10:14] <Freax> maybe even not at all
[10:14] <Freax> ive done it many times before
[10:14] <Freax> countless times
[10:15] <Jeremy> not for me thanks
[10:15] <Freax> hehe
[10:15] <Freax> isnt that bad
[10:15] <Freax> only if you keep yourself busy and dont exercise yourself, you're fine
[10:15] <Freax> at the computer is a prime position
[10:16] <Jeremy> Any weather abnormalities down under lately?
[10:16] <Freax> yes
[10:16] <Freax> 95% of the country will be in drought soon
[10:16] <Freax> it's already in 65%
[10:16] <Jeremy> really..
[10:16] <Freax> nsw and queensland is the hardest hit
[10:16] <Freax> will be the worst drought since the 1950's
[10:17] <Jeremy> right, was just going to ask that
[10:17] <Freax> and...
[10:17] <Freax> it's getting colder
[10:17] <Freax> the seas are much stronger
[10:17] <Jeremy> Seems ZT has got it right about droughts and deluges around the world
[10:18] <Jeremy> You were unwell some time ago. Feeling better these days?
[10:18] <Freax> sort of
[10:19] <Freax> this is only temporary but im worried about my friends emotional state
[10:19] <Freax> im taking my medication and i dont feel the need to grab a knife and slit my throat
[10:19] <Freax> anymore
[10:19] <Freax> nor do i feel paranoid or scared when im on dothiepin
[10:20] <Jeremy> what exactly is your medical complaint then?
[10:20] <Freax> damn wish i didnt have a winmodem
[10:20] <Freax> medical complaint?
[10:21] <Freax> you mean medical illness
[10:21] <Jeremy> yeah
[10:21] <Freax> oh, severe depression, paranoid, schitzophrenia
[10:21] <Freax> obese
[10:22] <Jeremy> sorry to hear that
[10:22] <Freax> narf
[10:24] <Freax> i still wonder how amd manage to cool their 1.8ghz processors
[10:24] <Jeremy> Someone posted a picture of Planet X on tt-watch, which allegedly was taken from a Russian space probe in the early 90s
[10:24] <Jeremy> Looks like a fake though
[10:24] <Freax> especially by convection
[10:25] <Freax> meh, this whole thing looks like a fake to me
[10:26] <Jeremy> but you agree that the weather anomalies have occured in the timeframe predicted by ZT
[10:26] <Freax> maybe, i also agree that i should be as rich as bill gates
[10:26] <Freax> so im not one to agree with
[10:27] <Jeremy> why do you come on this channel then, just to listen in to the debates?
[10:27] <Freax> i think this whole weather anomaly thing is the cause of the el-nino band across the pacific
[10:28] <Jeremy> that's one possible cause
[10:28] <Jurian> how 'bout the economy?
[10:29] <Jeremy> yo Jurian
[10:29] <Jurian> hey :)
[10:29] <Freax> and there has been an increase of volcanic erruptions, but that could also be the cause of an increase in people reporting them
[10:29] <Freax> mmm, maybe companies know about it
[10:29] <Jeremy> Frax: Doubt that, volcanic eruptions have always been reported by scientists, geologists
[10:30] <obaway> -++
[10:30] <Freax> ooh frax =)
[10:35] <Jeremy> Wonder if anyone will try sighting PX in the next few weeks?
[10:36] <Jeremy> The eager ones might try, if they have the patience and time
[10:39] <Jeremy> bbl
[10:39] <Freax> k
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[11:04] <Freax> ok night people
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[12:12] <obaway> mm now the guy that posted on tt-social and so .. that religous fellow is also posting to sci.astro
[12:13] <Jurian> lol
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[12:14] <obaway> he points to some science facts ,but also gives the url of his site
[12:14] <agentPX> thx for the ban on tt Jurian it was annoying
[12:15] <obaway> le_renard you mean ?
[12:15] <agentPX> no
[12:15] <agentPX> havent you read the tt list today?
[12:15] <Jurian> eh?
[12:15] <agentPX> ohhh
[12:15] <agentPX> maybe it was Jan
[12:15] <agentPX> sorry
[12:15] <obaway> Jan yes
[12:15] <agentPX> oops
[12:15] <agentPX> sorry
[12:15] <Jurian> I don't have moderator access :p
[12:15] <obaway> the religious guy got banned
[12:15] <Jurian> nor do I want to have that :p
[12:15] <agentPX> hehehe
[12:16] <agentPX> no prob my mistake sorry
[12:16] <obaway> talking about his Saviour etc
[12:16] <Angelic> ' religious guy banned by religious guy ' news at 11
[12:16] <Jurian> :)
[12:16] <Jurian> jan wants to come visit me in sweden some day
[12:17] <agentPX> yeah but anyway i hope ppl not believing in PX will stop BS on the tt list its annoying
[12:18] <obaway> perhaps you think otherwise, but i think Jan is a okay guy ...
[12:18] <Angelic> jurian, jan equals a fanatic
[12:18] <Jurian> yes, but I do think he means it well
[12:18] <Angelic> he is crazy
[12:18] <Angelic> I won't be there if he comes
[12:18] <agentPX> did you met him
[12:19] <agentPX> ²
[12:19] <Angelic> stupid q
[12:19] <agentPX> give me the stupid answer then
[12:19] <Jurian> the stupid answer, that would be.. APPLEPIE
[12:20] <Angelic> agentPX: APPLEPIE
[12:20] <Jurian> :)
[12:20] <Angelic> :)
[12:20] <agentPX> heh
[12:22] <Angelic> ik dacht dat je weg was obany :)
[12:22] * obaway is now known as obany
[12:22] <Angelic> hehe
[12:22] <Jurian> lol :)
[12:22] <obany> ik was er stiekum toch :P hjeheheh
[12:22] <Angelic> dacht al, je bent op irc via je werk ;)
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[12:33] <obany> bbl ... ben weer ff tv aan het kijken .. intruders is weer op TV .. deel 2 nu wel al paar keer gezien maar jah
[12:33] <Jurian> tv junkie
[12:33] <Jurian> :p
[12:34] <obany> doh doh :P
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[13:04] <Thunderoc> Hi everyone!
[13:04] * Angelic is away, zzzzzzzzzzzz
[13:04] <Thunderoc> anyone awake here?
[13:06] * obany is here kinda ... watchint TV
[13:07] <obany> i will be around ... i am close by .....
[13:07] <Jurian> ..... :p
[13:09] * obany brb ... tv again
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[13:31] <Thunderoc> .http://www.zetatalk.com//msg  
[13:32] <onlainari> the page cannot befound
[13:32] <Thunderoc> sorry
[13:33] <onlainari> np
[13:33] <Thunderoc> .http://www.zetatalk.com//msg  
[13:33] <Thunderoc> .http://www.zetatalk.com//msg  
[13:33] <Thunderoc> .http://www.zetatalk.com//msg  
[13:33] <Thunderoc> .http://www.zetatalk.com//msg  
[13:34] <Thunderoc>  
[13:34] <Jurian> would you stop repeating already?
[13:35] <Thunderoc> very sorry...was trying to cut/copy..
[13:35] <Jurian> hehe
[13:35] <Thunderoc> Jurian hi! :o)
[13:35] <Thunderoc> ty Obany!!
[13:35] <Jurian> hmmm, webtv, dunno how to copy/paste with that :)
[13:35] <Thunderoc> .http://www.zetatalk.com/index/help.htm have it now thanks
[13:36] <Thunderoc> there is not a day that goes by when I am not thinking about this PX stuff..
[13:36] <Thunderoc> have read the material since 95..
[13:36] <Thunderoc> so I have seen the acuracy with my own eyes
[13:37] <obany> i also know it since 1995
[13:37] <Thunderoc> quite a lot to digest..
[13:37] <obany> your nick sounds a liltte familair to me
[13:37] <Thunderoc> I have asked a few questions in the chat sessions
[13:38] <obany> ah that's why
[13:38] <Thunderoc> I am in BC Canada
[13:39] <Thunderoc> I guess one of the biggest shocks to me was Nancy's statement regarding the question I asked...which was  the idea of how.or if our thoughts create reality..
[13:40] <Thunderoc> though not answered by the zeta's...her answer nerved a lot of dearly held belief for me
[13:40] <Thunderoc> unerved^
[13:40] <Thunderoc> I wish the zeta's could have answered it
[13:41] <Thunderoc> but...I will accept her answer reluctantly.lol
[13:41] <obany> :)
[13:42] <Thunderoc> thoughts do not create reality..yet the call given..has a similar effect?
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[13:43] <Ogmios> hello
[13:43] <Thunderoc> if I look around me...everything materiall was first..just a thought...
[13:43] <Thunderoc> right?
[13:44] <Thunderoc> and thoughts must contain a form of light energy...which...is attracted to like..resulting through the illusion of time...a manifestation of some kind of reflective reality..
[13:44] <obany> not exacltly i think ... anyway brb :)
[13:45] <Thunderoc> Jurian, what do you think?
[13:45] <Thunderoc> Hi Ogmios ! :o)
[13:48] <obany> it
[13:48] <Thunderoc> wb obany! :o)
[13:48] <obany> 's not that the call created all things around us ...
[13:48] <Thunderoc> then what?
[13:50] <obany> God, the source... hands ... not sure ..
[13:51] <Thunderoc> if like attracts like...and unikes repel...as in sts individuals not being able to even see the sto's that may be close, as in the aftertimes...what is that mechanism?..are we allowed to understand that via the call to understand?
[13:52] <obany> i realy am not sure .... we have to keep in mind that not everything can be yet explained to us
[13:52] <obany> anyway brb
[13:53] <Thunderoc> ok..
[13:57] <obany> have you read this yet http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b79.htm ?
[13:58] <Thunderoc> I was also wondering if the zeta's information comes with any form of bas...or if there are alternatives to thier scenario as presented, as this is in the hands of men?..and if the council of worlds does in fact delegate other forms of 'belief transferance' through other forms of channels that the zeta's can recomend?
[13:58] <Thunderoc> bas = bias^
[13:59] <obany> thunderoc: http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a32.htm , http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a98.htm
[13:59] <obany> brb
[14:01] <Thunderoc> ok I will look now at those obany...Than You! :o)
[14:01] * Thunderoc will be right back.
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[14:07] <Thunderoc> thanks obany
[14:07] <Thunderoc> the awaken address did not work...coud I have those agai? :o)
[14:08] <Thunderoc> http://www.zetatlk.com/awaken/a32.htm ,http://www.zetatlk.com/awake/a98.htm
[14:08] <obany>  http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a32.htm
[14:08] <obany>  http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a98.htm
[14:10] <Thunderoc> ok I see my istakes..ty obany! :o)
[14:10] <Thunderoc> m^
[14:10] * Thunderoc will be right back.
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[14:11] <obany> they can only either chat or look at  a website
[14:11] <obany> can't do 2 things at the same time
[14:13] <Ogmios> some 20C still outside
[14:13] <Ogmios> midnight
[14:13] <onlainari> where u live ogmi
[14:13] <onlainari> finland I see
[14:13] <Ogmios> finland
[14:14] <onlainari> ye hot day...but in turkey it was 31c 3 am
[14:14] <onlainari> it was something weird
[14:14] <Ogmios> oh
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[14:16] <obany> it was kinda warm here for 3 days ... yesterday evening it changed, it's now a bit better outside
[14:16] <Thunderoc> Thank You Obany...that makes sense!! How do you come up with the answers to direct questions Like the oes I posed...through the search engine
[14:16] <obany> i know where to find them
[14:17] <obany> also keep in mind that zetatalk is not channeling
[14:17] <Thunderoc> just from emory?
[14:17] <Thunderoc> yes telepath :o)
[14:17] <obany> sort of
[14:17] <obany> a bit from memory yes
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[14:18] <Thunderoc> obany have you experinced a zeta visit yourself?
[14:18] <merry> hi kids
[14:19] <Thunderoc> Hy merry!
[14:19] <merry> any news today?
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[14:21] <merry> anyone care to read a short catholic prophecy from Louise Star Tomkiel (date 7/29) regarding pole shift?
[14:22] <obany> no ... what does it say ?
[14:22] <merry> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/joycelist/message/25939
[14:22] <merry> sounds kinda grim
[14:22] <sapphire> I'm trying to clean-up a UHF signal for tommorow's airing on Nancy interview...anyone have any hints with UHF?
[14:23] <obany> ah i think what its about, also mentions 2003 and so .. but with a very very catholic tone on it
[14:23] <merry> Tomkiel has many related prophecies over the last year. Hereis the url:
[14:23] <merry> http://hia.net/giftstor/tomkiel02sec.htm
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[14:32] <obany> green: ik moet nog steeds het restje van je w... stuk lezen :)
[14:32] <DRGREEN> vind je het gaan tot zover?
[14:33] <obany> heb het al een paar dagen niet meer gelezn.. om het eerlijk te zeggen .. maar echt veel hoef ik niet meer te lezen en best goed
[14:34] <DRGREEN> ik heb nog wel wat aanpassingen gemaakt tot zover. Informatie over Malachi is verandert
[14:36] <obany> over z'n space ship en 2003 ...
[14:38] <merry> see ya later all...
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[14:38] <Thunderoc> byee merry
[14:38] <DRGREEN> ja.
[14:40] <Thunderoc> bye all ! :o)
[14:40] <DRGREEN> bye.
[14:40] * obany brb
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[14:44] <Jeremy> hmmmm
[14:45] <Ogmios> hi Jeremy
[14:45] <Jeremy> Hello Ogmios
[14:47] <Jeremy> Have you discussed the pole shift scenario with any of your relatives/and or friends, Ogmios?
[14:49] <Ogmios> not really
[14:50] <Ogmios> lately
[14:50] <Ogmios> noticed that they are in denial
[14:51] <Jeremy> They have noticed the oddities in weather that you have noticed then?
[14:52] <Ogmios> yes
[14:54] <Jeremy> right
[14:55] <Ogmios> maybe then when px is visible..but nasa says something calming again
[14:56] <sapphire> when will px be visible this time?
[14:56] <Ogmios> how can they say something will hit us near future
[14:56] <Ogmios> its total chaos then
[14:57] <Jeremy> When enough amateurs sight PX independenty then no government affiliated body will be able to suppress the discovery
[14:57] <sapphire> is the government suppressing it now?
[14:58] <Jeremy> No, because only ZT followers in the main believe it, but when amateurs astronomers sight it then the cat will really be out the bag
[14:59] <Jeremy> And people following ZT will have strong evidence to support the return of PX once a definite amateur sighting is made
[14:59] * Looking up Jeremy user info...
[15:00] <sapphire> jeremy: are you getting emails forwarded from reticuli@hotmail.com?
[15:01] <Jeremy> I received an email from someone I didn't immedidately recognise today
[15:01] <sapphire> i noticed you on the cc list
[15:01] <Jeremy> oh..
[15:01] <obany> hi
[15:01] <sapphire> bush conspiracy crap
[15:01] <Jeremy> hey obany
[15:02] <sapphire> looks like it was sent to a bunch of people who are regularly here.
[15:02] <Jeremy> that includes me then :)
[15:03] <obany> for what i know reticuli is a regular here
[15:03] <sapphire> yes, but someone could be trying to pose as him
[15:04] <obany> maybe so
[15:04] <sapphire> i just didn't understand the point of the email...unless reticuli had been drinking...
[15:08] <Jeremy> brb phone
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[15:24] <obany> hi kota
[15:24] <kota> obany ho how have you been
[15:24] <kota> hi
[15:25] <kota> things are good with you?
[15:25] <obany> i am fine ... have you been here before .. your nick sounds familiair,, are you the guy who did made that Nibiru movie?
[15:25] <obany> Yes i am fine
[15:25] <obany> kota
[15:26] <kota> good to hear
[15:26] <kota> any PX news
[15:27] <obany> not much .... altough there are some updates on zetatalk : http://www.zetatalk.com/index/z03.htm and the preview and also in the log of last saturday
[15:27] <obany> and interresting imo
[15:27] <kota> saw those-guess september is the next milestone, huh?
[15:28] <kota> talk of visibility then
[15:28] <kota> obany are you in europe?
[15:29] <obany> Yes i am in Europe and yes in mid september new coordinates will be givven
[15:29] * obany Netherlands
[15:30] <kota> wish i lived in amsterdam
[15:30] <kota> very enlightened place the netherlands
[15:30] <DRGREEN> haha
[15:30] <obany> altough the Netherlands is a small country, Amsterdam is not the only place there
[15:31] <kota> not said facetiously
[15:31] <obany> it's not that Amsterdam equals the Netherlands and vice versa
[15:31] <DRGREEN> That would be terrible.
[15:31] * Jurian is now known as JurAFK
[15:31] <kota> i was speaking more of socio political norms
[15:32] <kota> for instance the approcah to euthenasia
[15:32] <obany> i know about that
[15:35] <kota> it is being unoffically practised in the states
[15:36] <obany> the same thing over here .. but this year that changed... and for what i know about the same now in Belgium
[15:37] <kota> i just went thru a long illness with a relative & it made a tremendous difference "unofficial or not"
[15:40] <kota> obany are you laying plans on for next may?
[15:42] <Jeremy> It's interesting that despite the severity of the flooding in Scotland, it hasn't appeared as a major news link at the top of the BBC homepage
[15:43] <Jeremy> Almost like these floods are commonly accepted
[15:43] <kota> yeah lik e100 year floods are beccoming the norm
[15:44] <obany> kota: well one thing i won't stay in the place, village, country that i live in now
[15:44] <obany> Netherlands is unsafe
[15:44] <obany> very unsafe
[15:45] <Jeremy> How long will you remain in The Netherlands obany?
[15:45] <kota> very, bold and italicised
[15:45] <Jeremy> yeah
[15:46] <Jeremy> Kota, do you consider the pole shift will likely happen next year?
[15:47] <obany> Jeremy: well i plan to be gone before may 2003.. So not that long anymore
[15:47] <obany> and time goes fast enough
[15:48] <kota> jeremy-i wish i knew
[15:48] <Jeremy> oh, so no opinion then?
[15:48] <kota> http://kotabatu.net
[15:48] <Jeremy> ah, thanks
[15:48] <kota> denada
[15:49] <kota> obany ciao nemaste
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[15:49] <Jeremy> are you Japanese?
[15:50] <obany> he left
[15:52] <Jeremy> So you won't leave Holland until next year then?
[15:53] <DRGREEN> Obany, you've got any idea where you're going?
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[15:54] <Jeremy> Hello LPM
[15:55] <Jeremy> Sorry I have to leave now
[15:55] <LPM> hello
[15:55] <LPM> k
[15:55] <Jeremy> Goodnight
[15:55] <LPM> g nite
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[15:55] <obany> Sweden is the best choise for us Europeans
[15:55] <LPM> sverge, yes
[15:56] <LPM> brb
[15:56] <DRGREEN> Hey, me and some friends were thinking the same thing.
[15:56] <DRGREEN> But maybe we go to the middle of germany somewhere.
[15:57] <DRGREEN> Don't know the options.
[15:58] <obany> you need some ground, also .. a place to settle down etc
[15:59] <DRGREEN> Most options require money and support... I haven't got lots of those.
[16:00] <obany> i don't have much money or so either ...
[16:00] <Pott> It
[16:00] <Pott> It will be kinda cool to see obany return after May 15
[16:00] <Pott> Wondering why he's not dead and the World continues.
[16:01] <obany> ooh come on pott
[16:01] <Pott> Then again perhaps it will the most important lesson a lot of people learn.
[16:01] <obany> go play with yourself instead of making those lawzy comments
[16:01] <Pott> lousy
[16:01] <DRGREEN> If it doesn't happen in 2003, there's still a huge possibillity that something like the Zeta's described will occur soon after.
[16:02] <obany> don't mind my Enligh ... pott it's not my main language and you know what i mean
[16:02] <obany> you are quiete the irritating guy
[16:02] <Pott> Not much of a possibility at all however the possibility of a massive Earth changing event is inevitable.
[16:02] <LPM> so Pott, you dont thing there willl be a ps?
[16:03] <Pott> However the time scale of massive changing events is astronomical.
[16:03] <DRGREEN> The poles are already shifting, faster than current science could anticipate.
[16:03] <LPM> so the shift will not be a sudden thing, in your view?
[16:04] <Pott> The actual technical term is not even "Pole Shift" rather Pole Reversal.
[16:04] <LPM> no, pole reversal is a different thing.  
[16:05] <LPM> I have a degree in geology btw
[16:05] <Pott> Ahhh I see.
[16:05] <LPM> pole reversals occur without any plate shifting
[16:05] <Pott> Well let me ask how would you expect the poles to shift exactly and where?
[16:06] <DRGREEN> It will be quite sudden I gather Pott, haven't you seen the geological records of frozen mastodons wich Velikovsky described?
[16:06] <DRGREEN> records in Icelayers?
[16:06] <DRGREEN> Some of them show pretty dramatic sudden change, all over the world, at the same time.
[16:06] <LPM> if the 12th exists, and its mass is as large as nancy claims, then that is how. where is totally dependent on where the earth is when the 12th arrives
[16:07] <LPM> there are many mass extinction events in the geologic record
[16:07] <Pott> Asteroid impacts
[16:07] <DRGREEN> Sudden extinctions if I might add.
[16:07] <LPM> yes, at least 8 of them are from asteroid impacts
[16:07] <DRGREEN> every 3.600 years or so?
[16:07] <Pott> Even a small one could very well cloud the atmosphere.
[16:07] <LPM> no... unfortunately not a pattern
[16:08] <Pott> 3600 years is too small of a time scale for massive changes.
[16:08] <Pott> Astronomically that is tomorrow.
[16:08] <DRGREEN> not if they are sudden, wich the records show.
[16:08] <LPM> there are over 20 mass extinction events and less than 10 have been attributed to asteroid strikes
[16:08] <obany> drgeen: you know .. if you have red zetatalk, not every pole is a severe one
[16:08] <LPM> right
[16:08] <DRGREEN> I know that.
[16:08] <LPM> the earth can be on the opposite side of the sun
[16:09] <LPM> which btw is a possibility with this passing - if the 12th exists...
[16:09] <Pott> I believe that perhaps we should be looking to the sun to explain some of these mass extinctions.
[16:10] <Pott> It is the most influential local force.
[16:10] <LPM> ah..  not enough evidence to blame the sun.  I'd be interested in your theory, tho
[16:10] <DRGREEN> But still, change every 3.600 years is notable in icelayers, according too (example) www.cassiopaea.org/cass/meteors.htm
[16:10] <Pott> In science even small deviations seem to have dramatic impacts.
[16:10] <LPM> true
[16:11] <obany> Lpm i don't think that it will be on the opposite of the sun this time
[16:11] <LPM> we can only hope and pray...
[16:11] <Pott> I'm not exactly blaming the sun but pointing out that it has the most influence than any other body.
[16:11] <Pott> Locally speaking ofcourse.
[16:12] <LPM> yes
[16:12] <obany> to much going on to say i'ts otherwise
[16:12] <obany> anyway i am going now
[16:12] <obany> tireeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
[16:12] <LPM> and it's not even close yet
[16:12] <LPM> g' nite gerard
[16:13] <DRGREEN> Bye.
[16:13] <Pott> LPM: Another cause of mass extinction could be volcanic activity.
[16:13] <LPM> massive volcanic activity would need a catalyst
[16:13] <LPM> any ideas?
[16:14] <Pott> Tectonics perhaps.
[16:14] <LPM> a small meteor strike maybe
[16:14] <LPM> tectonics are always with us...  something would need to be 'different'...
[16:15] <obany> bye bye
[16:15] <Pott> Our observations of tectonics is still limited.
[16:15] <LPM> :)
[16:15] <LPM> yes
[16:15] <LPM> bye obany
[16:15] <DRGREEN> As well is our observation of spac.e
[16:15] * obany has quit IRC (bye goodnight take care sleep well welterusten)
[16:15] <LPM> we didn't even know about tectonics until the 60s
[16:16] <Pott> There are probably instances we know nothing about.
[16:16] <LPM> a small meteorite strike might go un-noticed if it didn't contain iridium
[16:16] <LPM> irridium
[16:16] <LPM> sp?
[16:16] <LPM> right. so it is all up in the air...
[16:16] <LPM> we just have to wait and see i guess
[16:17] <Pott> We do know that some structures can cause Earth Quakes the Hoover dam is a prime example.
[16:18] <LPM> small scale, tho
[16:18] <LPM> think massive...
[16:18] <LPM> meters and meters of basalt
[16:18] <LPM> meters of raised escarpments
[16:19] <LPM> Dover Cliffs
[16:19] <Pott> I suppose a degradation and displacement of materials could cause such imbalances like the Hoover dam.
[16:19] <LPM> yes, the earth has to shift locally to balance the weight of the water in the lake as well as the cement structure
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[16:23] <Pott> I'm just thinking of ideas they may or may not be correct however i believe the infinity of the Universe has a time and place for most if not all to occur.
[16:23] <LPM> that is pretty out there, man...  ;)
[16:26] <Pott> Now
[16:26] <Pott> One moment while I apply my athletes foot medication
[16:26] <LPM> k
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[16:30] <Pott> done
[16:31] <Pott> I think as far as PX is concerned a few really jumped the gun on the whole idea and got the rest to follow.
[16:31] <LPM> sitchen...  
[16:31] <Pott> I think there is more money to be made than there is to be lost from it.
[16:32] <Pott> If you could make $100,000 say for writing about something that is not even true would you?
[16:32] <LPM> true.  hey!  thats the secret.  
[16:32] <LPM> no, it would have to be based on facts...
[16:33] <Pott> Maybe not but put yourself in the shoes of someone who will do anything for money and it's perfect.
[16:33] <LPM> right. i can see that
[16:33] <Pott> Feeding off of peoples susceptabilities and fears is easy.
[16:33] <LPM> sounds like evangelists... ;)
[16:35] <Pott> All in all I think it's a real sham that has a lot of people thinking wishfully.
[16:35] <Angelic> evenin' Pott :)
[16:35] <Pott> Sup
[16:36] <LPM> wishfully, meaning they want to ps to happen?
[16:36] <LPM> hi angelic
[16:36] <Angelic> and nite night :)
[16:36] <LPM> awe
[16:36] <Pott> Not want it to happen in all cases but want to believe it is there.
[16:36] <LPM> ah
[16:37] <LPM> I almost want it to be true to clean up this mess we've made of the planet...
[16:37] <Pott> Perhaps with that statement you better understand the essence of the enigma.
[16:38] <LPM> hehehe... yes
[16:38] <Pott> It could be there but in my full hearted opinion it's only in our minds.
[16:39] <LPM> the the current state of the planet is from?
[16:39] <Pott> What do you mean by that exactly?
[16:40] <LPM> oh, the worsening weather for one
[16:40] <LPM> global warming?
[16:40] <LPM> sun spots?
[16:40] <LPM> all valid arguments of course
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[16:41] <Pott> We're most likely the cause of those weather changes.
[16:41] <LPM> polution... right.
[16:41] <LPM> I certainly buy that.  
[16:41] <Pott> Yet it's still debated.
[16:42] <LPM> well, there is the geologic record to throw in
[16:42] <agentPX> i dont agree Pott
[16:42] <agentPX> i think the zetas are the most likely cause of the weather changes
[16:42] <LPM> hahaha
[16:42] <agentPX> they are polluting our planet
[16:42] <LPM> that is good.  with what?
[16:42] <Pott> I really think the debate should be over what are we waiting for but to be sure?
[16:42] <Pott> Thats pretty ignorant.
[16:42] <LPM> their ship exhaust?
[16:43] <agentPX> hahaha
[16:43] <LPM> ok, rephrase that, pott, what are we waiting for, but to be sure?  
[16:43] <Pott> That sounds better.
[16:43] <Pott> Still the same point I was trying to get across.
[16:43] <LPM> no, i didn't get it..
[16:44] <agentPX> did you buy a scope Pott
[16:44] <agentPX> to spot pX
[16:44] <LPM> i got one...
[16:44] <agentPX> LPM : so did you see anything?%
[16:44] <Pott> To be sure that were the cause of the changes I mean.
[16:44] <LPM> ah.  ok
[16:44] <agentPX> did you see all the whales that died
[16:44] <LPM> agentpx: didn't get a auto tracking device so it is hard to look at planets
[16:44] <Pott> I don't need to spot PX if it's there then there will be a flood of sightings.
[16:44] <agentPX> because of the change of climate :(
[16:45] <Pott> I suspect still there to be sightings but they will be BS not PS
[16:45] <LPM> or the shifting magneticnorth
[16:45] <LPM> (add a space)
[16:45] <LPM> hehehe.. the only sighting i'll believe is with my own eyes
[16:45] <Pott> I got my job to worry about anyways no PX hehe
[16:45] <Pott> I only chit-chat on the parttime LOL
[16:46] <LPM> :)
[16:46] <agentPX> eh
[16:46] <LPM> what time zone are you in?
[16:46] <Pott> EST
[16:46] <LPM> me too
[16:46] <agentPX> me too
[16:46] <LPM> north or south?
[16:46] <Pott> North
[16:46] <LPM> south here
[16:46] <Pott> Southern Ontario
[16:47] <agentPX> quebec
[16:47] <LPM> ah.  you are both in canada?
[16:47] <Pott> Which is still North hehe ;)
[16:47] <agentPX> yep
[16:47] <LPM> so you can go to the continental shield to survive
[16:48] <agentPX> survive from what ??????
[16:48] <Pott> It's only a few hours from here hehe
[16:48] <Pott> Solid rock.
[16:48] <agentPX> hehehe
[16:48] <LPM> he?
[16:48] <agentPX> yah a couples of hours +5 for me
[16:49] <agentPX> i'm not very afraid of pX, i'm more afraid about the asteroid in 2019
[16:49] <agentPX> i bet nancy is going to say its PX after may 2003 when pX is not gonna come
[16:49] <LPM> well, an asteroid would not likely be survivable in any case
[16:50] <Pott> Asteroids are mean momma's
[16:50] <agentPX> depend of the size of the asteroid when it hit the ground
[16:50] <Pott> Yet quite necessary.
[16:50] <LPM> nancy, smancy
[16:50] <LPM> I gotta run.  nice chat...
[16:50] <LPM> :)
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[16:51] <Angelic> :) hehe bye <gone now>
[16:51] <agentPX> too late
[16:51] <Pott> I really think for us now it's not the beginning of the end but the end of the beginning.
[16:52] <agentPX> eh
[16:52] <agentPX> depend on how you take
[16:52] <agentPX> take it
[16:53] <agentPX> i dont feel like im going to live at 100 or even 80 years, i feel im going to die from something (asteroid, px, pollution, war, ,whatever)
[16:53] <Pott> All we have to do is make sure we don't kill ourselves with our own technology that is probably the most difficult time for any species anywhere.
[16:54] <agentPX> yep thats for sure
[16:55] <agentPX> but the climate is better than 50 years ago.. 1st and 2nd war has passed and cold war also.. i dont think we're going to face a 3rd big war
[16:56] <Pott> A 3'rd big war would basically screw everyone.
[16:57] <agentPX> in north america we're safe for now, but in a couples of decade usa will plump, that will affect us a lot..
[16:58] <Pott> agenty
[16:58] <Pott> Heres my company
[16:58] <Pott> www.libertymotorco.com
[16:58] <agentPX> k gonna look at it
[16:58] <agentPX> by the way im agentPX not agentY
[16:59] <Pott> hehe
[16:59] <Pott> pl
[16:59] <Pott> bbl
[17:00] <agentPX> nice idea
[17:00] <agentPX> does it work good ?
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[17:49] <Ogmios> its august
[17:50] <Ogmios> time flies
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[19:18] <Jenkins3d> damn moon walk
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[19:22] <Jenkins3d> sup
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[19:23] <Jenkins3d> agentpx!
[19:23] <agentPX> hey jen!
[19:23] <agentPX> how ya doinb
[19:23] <agentPX> doin
[19:23] <Jenkins3d> do you have any fake px pictures you would like to share
[19:23] <agentPX> yes
[19:24] <Jenkins3d> im doing good
[19:24] <Jenkins3d> someone should make a gallary of fake px pictures
[19:24] <Pott> What do you think of PX now Jen?
[19:24] <Pott> sapphire probably should take that note
[19:24] <Jenkins3d> I think it will happen...i hope, but not 2003
[19:24] <agentPX> jenk
[19:24] <agentPX> hold on
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[19:25] <Pott> Nancy will try and swindle her way out of it.
[19:25] <agentPX> http://www.webspawner.com/users/mandurek/index.html
[19:25] <Jenkins3d> not working
[19:26] <agentPX> oh shit its closed :(      well it was a russian guys saying he worked for the sovietic "nasa" program and since the '90s they where working on spotting planetX, he said they launched a sattelite to observe pX and they were 3 pics of px
[19:27] <Jenkins3d> oh yeah..i saw that
[19:27] <Pott> In the end like all like her before her that have failed she represents that accumulation of previous qualities and assumes a position on perhaps the grandest of scale possible for her in her position as a citizen.
[19:27] <Jenkins3d> a book needs to be writen
[19:27] <agentPX> jen: do you have any others pics of pX?
[19:28] <agentPX> except thoses by IMO and Nancys
[19:28] <Jenkins3d> nope
[19:28] <Pott> The fuel of the disinformation fire will never cease unless stricter rules are implemented.
[19:28] <Jenkins3d> I could make some, say im a billionare and wanted to see for myself and lauched my own sattelite
[19:28] <agentPX> hehehehe
[19:28] <Pott> In that case our lives would become much more regulated.
[19:29] <Jenkins3d> what do you mean stricter rules?
[19:29] <Jenkins3d> laws??
[19:29] <agentPX> Jenk: you dont want to be the new leader of zetatalk?  we need a new leader who really get a contact with the zetas
[19:29] <Pott> tracking systems.
[19:30] <Pott> Full monitering.
[19:30] <Pott> etc
[19:30] <Pott> Except it would be well publicly known.
[19:30] <Jenkins3d> ahh, let me work on my channeling abiliy
[19:30] <agentPX> :D
[19:31] <Pott> As of now we have not a clue of how much data is anaylized by whom.
[19:31] <Jenkins3d> well this disinformation makes life more interesthing, what would it be like if there were no disinformation??
[19:31] <agentPX> pott: do you think the nasa know about zetatalk?
[19:32] <Pott> They probably know but don't care as it would not be in their best interests at all.
[19:33] <Pott> What if.
[19:33] <agentPX> wonder why no-one from the nasa ever contacted us, or intend to a zetatalk session or write to a tt-list... to give their point of view.. nasa is everywhere in the world..
[19:33] <Pott> It's silly and they know it.
[19:33] <Pott> Completely unprofessional.
[19:33] <agentPX> cmon
[19:34] <agentPX> anyone interested in physics, astronomy, mathematics, etc  is interested by PX (at the beginning)
[19:34] <Jenkins3d> well...on the art bell show once, this guy called in and said the goverment knows something is going to happen, they can be moving people but they arent doing anything and he was disconnected
[19:34] <Pott> I've seen a frankie@nsa.gov before.
[19:34] <Jenkins3d> he said he worked in the goverment
[19:34] <agentPX> oh yeah..
[19:35] <Pott> He said Nancy was a fraud in the blantest of terms.
[19:35] <agentPX> hehehe
[19:35] <agentPX> you dont have the date eh?
[19:36] <Pott> Nah it goes back a bit
[19:36] <Pott> I don't know what to make of it i'm sure he isn't talking shit.
[19:36] <Jenkins3d> you could do a search
[19:37] <Pott> > frankie <frankie@nsa.gov> wrote:
[19:37] <Pott> >> promoting it will have moved on to something else,
[19:37] <Pott> >> assuming that no-one will hold them to their words.  
[19:37] <Pott> >> And no-one will, because there is no particular crime in
[19:37] <Pott> >> peddling bunk to the gullible, until you take their money.
[19:37] <Pott> >>
[19:37] <Pott> >> Y'all haven't given her any money, have you?
[19:37] <Pott> >
[19:37] <Pott> > Apparently people have. $50,000 or so prior to last year
[19:38] <Jenkins3d> i find that hard to beleive
[19:38] <agentPX> hmm
[19:38] <Jenkins3d> where did that number come from?
[19:39] <agentPX> yeah why did you say $50,000
[19:39] <Pott> If he works for the nsa ofcourse he has access to all Nancy's private information.
[19:39] <agentPX> yeah
[19:39] <agentPX> but you said
[19:39] <agentPX> > Apparently people have. $50,000 or so prior to last year
[19:39] <agentPX> not him
[19:39] <Pott> Even mentioning that address might even get his attention.
[19:39] <Jenkins3d> ehh, even people asking for money dont get that much
[19:39] <Pott> If he worked for the nsa that is
[19:40] <agentPX> hmm anyway
[19:40] <Pott> Unfortunatly even if he was those people are too pussy to show their faces for who they are.
[19:40] <agentPX> did he said anything?
[19:40] <agentPX> anything else
[19:41] <Pott> Thats all i could find
[19:41] <agentPX> ok thanx
[19:42] <agentPX> 9
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[19:43] <Pott> merry
[19:43] <Pott> merry fellow
[19:43] <merry> Pott: howdy
[19:43] <merry> hey, someone is actually talking in here!
[19:43] <Pott> Whats going on?
[19:43] <merry> not enough, thats for sure
[19:44] <Jenkins3d> merry meet
[19:44] <Pott> It's been going for a bit now
[19:44] <merry> this is good....
[19:44] <Pott> Whats on your mind?
[19:44] <merry> pole shift
[19:44] <merry> silly....
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[19:45] <Pott> silly exactly
[19:45] <Jenkins3d> I was looking forward to it
[19:45] <merry> actually I am too
[19:45] * Angelic is away, zzzzzzzzzzzz
[19:45] <Pott> It's going to happen but it will be bunk.
[19:46] <merry> what do you mean Pott?
[19:46] <Jenkins3d> you stole bunk from that nsa guy!!
[19:46] <Pott> Atleast the people that are mind mashed by all the trash.
[19:47] <merry> so you think nibiru passing will be like Y2K?
[19:47] <agentPX> hehehe jenk
[19:47] <Pott> Generally people that want a easy way out. People who believe their own wishful thinking.
[19:48] <agentPX> i have to go
[19:48] <agentPX> talk to ya later guy
[19:48] <Jenkins3d> heh, i droped spanish class becasue i though i would never finish high school
[19:48] <merry> .....that's always been true
[19:48] <agentPX> guys
[19:48] <agentPX> see ya
[19:48] <Pott> These are generally the kind of people that get wound up in these odd balled beliefs.
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[19:49] <Jenkins3d> It was very beleiveable until about 5 months ago
[19:49] <Pott> The true belief for man goes beyond what we can see and touch and feel with our bodies and even our minds.
[19:49] <merry> what happened 5 months ago
[19:49] <Jenkins3d> nancy went crazy
[19:50] <merry> I thought she always was
[19:50] <Jenkins3d> well..it was just after sept 11
[19:50] <Jenkins3d> so more like 11 months ago
[19:50] <Pott> Our state right now is the essence of our pure form.
[19:51] <merry> ...made in god's image
[19:51] <merry> It's like she is publishing an epic sci fi novel online
[19:51] <merry> a bit at a time
[19:52] <Jenkins3d> or evolutionary form
[19:52] <merry> there's nothing she need prove or predict
[19:53] <Pott> She probably needs to be institutionalized for an indefinate period.
[19:53] <merry> and explains it away by saying the zeta won't let her/tell her
[19:54] <Pott> It's all trash
[19:54] <merry> this is the kind of thing that makes me wonder whether an internet connection is worth it
[19:54] <Pott> I believe that our true nature goes beyond all the information you could ever possibly access on the Internet.
[19:55] <Pott> Considering that Zetatalk is nothing more than balled peice of shit stuck to an asshair.
[19:56] <Jenkins3d>  ew, i didnt need to read that
[19:57] <Pott> That's about all it's worth.
[19:57] <Jenkins3d> most of it
[19:58] <merry> agreed
[19:58] <Pott> STO/STS is quite ingenius.
[19:58] <merry> whats that pott:
[19:58] <Jenkins3d> it's been brought up in other htings
[19:59] <Pott> STO is what you could consider a Utopia.
[19:59] <Pott> STS Earth.
[19:59] <Pott> As it is now ;)
[19:59] <Jenkins3d> http://www.universal-vision.com/
[20:00] <merry> thanks jenkins
[20:00] <Jenkins3d> the guy who does that talks about sto sts, but not in thoes terms
[20:01] <Pott> STO is a long progression for a species. To achieve that level society takes time to be handed that on a silver platter is weak.
[20:01] <Pott> Simply too easy.
[20:02] <merry> well do either of you think nibiru exists and if you do, will its passing cause damage?
[20:02] <Pott> It's a fable.
[20:03] <Pott> It belongs in a childrens story book.
[20:03] <Jenkins3d> but...there is so much stuff writen that can be explained by a passing of somethign like this
[20:04] <Pott> It's just a perpeptual non-sense.
[20:04] <Pott> woops
[20:04] <Pott> scenario
[20:04] <merry> and like pott says, so many of us really hope society collapses for any reason
[20:05] <Pott> We have to be strong and focus on what really counts.
[20:05] <merry> yes, credit card interest
[20:05] <merry> sorry, couldnt resist
[20:06] <Pott> Not read sci-fi stories.
[20:06] * merry loves sci fi
[20:07] <Jenkins3d> did you read Nancy's on fan-fict
[20:07] <Jenkins3d> own
[20:07] <merry> no, do tell
[20:07] <Jenkins3d> she wrote a screen play about this and since it didnt get anywhere she truned it into a short story
[20:08] <merry> is she quite wealthy?
[20:08] <Jenkins3d> and...it's free....ya wont get that from someone trying to capitlise off of smehting like this
[20:08] <merry> d0 radio talk shows pay guests?
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[20:09] <Pott> Heres the best Nancy joke i've heard yet. Nancy: Why do you keep saying Ice Cubes? Did you eat everything in the fride? Did you eat all your survival food? Ahhh I see you must be down to ice cubes you fat fucking bitch.
[20:10] <Jenkins3d4> ice cubes are the best way to cool down a hot modem i guess
[20:10] <merry> oh jenkins, the internlet has failed to live up to its potential
[20:11] <Jenkins3d4> why?
[20:11] <merry> just like television: selling is more important. Follow the money, always follow the money
[20:11] <Jenkins3d4> the internet is really just getting started...i dont think we know whats possible, and we wont until we all get 100 mbps connections
[20:12] <merry> ...hardwired in our brains
[20:12] <Jenkins3d4> yup, thats why the bbc and hbo have better shows than network tv]
[20:12] <Pott> I hope I just give some better hope to the people that come here. I just want to people to see how were brainwashed.
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[20:12] <Pott> Open their minds and see if they can find what they are really looking for.
[20:13] <merry> maybe
[20:13] <merry> but It won't stop me from wearing my 'pole shift' t shirt
[20:14] <Jenkins3d> lol...i have a poll i just made.  www.geocities.com/willpeopland/poll.html
[20:14] <Pott> So you really think there is a planet there?
[20:16] * merry does
[20:18] <merry> thats an interesting web site jenkins
[20:18] <Jenkins3d> it is
[20:19] <merry> great pic!
[20:19] <Jenkins3d> my friends wanted me to do some stuff about them and i said i would and i made that to pretend im actually doing it
[20:19] <merry> just pretending:????
[20:20] <merry> lot of work for a pretender
[20:20] <Jenkins3d> god..it took me an hour to figure out how to do the background
[20:20] <Jenkins3d> and whern i figured it out i felt sooo stupid
[20:21] <Jenkins3d> and i worked on it for a few minutes and a week later i would do another few minutes
[20:21] <merry> sounds about right
[20:21] <merry> only I usually erased mine after a month
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[20:24] <merry> well I'm off to bed
[20:24] <merry> night all
[20:24] <Jenkins3d> cya
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[20:32] <Jenkins3d4> i hate my stupid computerrs
[20:34] <Pott> time for bed for me
[20:34] <Pott> fucking athletes foot pissing me off
[20:34] <Jenkins3d4> ouch
[20:34] <Jenkins3d4> get tough acting tanactin
[20:35] <Pott> I got clotrimazole
[20:35] <Pott> Kills fungus that causes athletes foot, jock itch and ringworm.
[20:36] <Jenkins3d4> ohh, thats nice
[20:36] <Pott> fungus sucks
[20:37] <Jenkins3d4> yup
[20:37] <Jenkins3d4> ya need to take off your shoes more
[20:39] <Pott> Shits on the bottem of my feet too
[20:39] <Pott> Walk on that all day
[20:39] <Pott> Fucking fungus.
[20:40] <Pott> good night
[20:40] <Jenkins3d4> cya
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[21:17] <Thunderoc> Hi Room! :o)
[21:18] <Thunderoc> anyone here?
[21:20] <Thunderoc> sapphire, did you figure out the UHF thingz?
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[23:30] <SnookPoon> Hey!
[23:31] <SnookPoon> !seen monk
[23:31] <grimbot> I found 5 matches to your query (sorted): brent monk monk|awayforawhile monk|eating monk|afk. brent (monk@24-205-175-32.riv-res.charterpipeline.net) was last seen parting #Troubled_Times 2 days, 8 hours, 8 minutes ago stating "{}".
[23:31] <SnookPoon> seen monk
[23:31] <FunBot> I don't know who monk is.
[23:32] <SnookPoon> you're an idiot Funbot
[23:33] <SnookPoon> Anyone here?
[23:37] <SnookPoon> seen snookpoon
[23:37] <FunBot> Looking for yourself, eh SnookPoon?
[23:37] <sapphire> i'm here
[23:37] <SnookPoon> seen maximumd
[23:37] <FunBot> I don't know who maximumd is.
[23:37] <sapphire> for a few minutes
[23:38] <SnookPoon> hey
[23:38] <SnookPoon> Are you listening to
[23:38] <SnookPoon> Art Bell?
[23:38] <sapphire> no, who's on?
[23:38] <SnookPoon> They have a good one on tonight
[23:38] <SnookPoon> She is some physcist
[23:39] <SnookPoon> She has hit the nail on the head on what I figured out on my own a long time ago
[23:39] <sirgrim> i'm here
[23:40] <SnookPoon> She's all into think about how all matter is connected and the vibrational staes of it and how it's all just one big illusion
[23:40] <SnookPoon> states
[23:41] <SnookPoon> That matter is mostlt empty space
[23:41] <SnookPoon> mostly
[23:41] <SnookPoon> Pretty cool!
[23:41] <sirgrim> sounds so
[23:41] <sirgrim> tuning in now
[23:42] <sapphire> yes, the matter we feel is actually more akin to "force fields"
[23:42] <SnookPoon> Yeah, exactly
[23:42] <sapphire> objects never really touch each other
[23:43] <SnookPoon> The only reason we feel it and percieve it as a sold substance is it vibrates so fast
[23:43] <sapphire> right
[23:43] <SnookPoon> solid
[23:43] <sapphire> in a sense we are in a huge "holodeck" from star trek, except on a more fundamental level
[23:43] <sirgrim> http://www.wddty.co.uk/thefield/ her web site
[23:44] <SnookPoon> That's not to far off base
[23:44] <SnookPoon> as weird as it sounds
[23:45] <sapphire> bbl
[23:45] <SnookPoon> ok
[23:45] <sirgrim> interesting concept
[23:46] <SnookPoon> yeah
Session Close: Thu Aug 01 00:00:00 2002