Session Start: Sat Feb 23 13:07:43 2002
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-IQx|AwAy- Dont forget to tune in with Nancy on Radio - www.BlakeRadio.com - Channel 5 Rainbow - Saturday, Feb 23, 2002 - 6:00 EST (23:00 UTC) For 3 Hours - Enjoy Your Stay
<SteveO> hi everybody
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<Zetapal> hmm
<S7L> myco: algae is likewise useful, in that it can be grown in nutritionally enrichened ponds and harvested with basically a cloth, maybe, or scraping from rocks
<Clipper> I didn't think mushrooms have that much nutritional value?
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<myco> this is a common misperception
<Sobra> that's a good question actually, it raises some very intersting thoughts on actual "awareness" itself as far as that goes, again as mentioned before we probly go back to the densiety thing
<myco> theyre just of a different make up then plants
<myco> they need to be cooked to break down their cellular structure
<S7L> Sobra: thanks. I just don't think that IS it.
<myco> then theyre more nutritional than most plants
<Clipper> Never dealt with them much. Probably should though.
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<myco> this is why im doing the leg work ;)
<Clipper> Let me thank you in advance :-)
<myco> well check this also
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<myco> they are bedrock to a permaculture solution
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<myco> we're finishing a model now
<Torbj> 7: "is one aware of..."  now yuo are using your brain...not your stomach
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<myco> that incorporates this, as i said as a bedrock to permanent agriculture, and its pretty heady stuff
<myco> there are species that break down soil toxins and even OIL
<myco> and the thing is
<Clipper> Wow
<myco> you hammer in shiitake spores in to a log
<myco> they decompose and you harvest many pounds
<S7L> oil is relatively mutable. It's bad only on water.
<myco> you then do another run of a secondary decomposing specie
<myco> decomposes more, more harvest
<myco> 1-2 more runs with other species and youre left with soil
<Clipper> Cool beans.
<myco> ideally enriched for other applications
<myco> sorry for the babble, this gets me excited ;)
<Clipper> No problem here :-)
<Sobra> it's usefull babble though :)
<Clipper> Very
<myco> ill publish and have spores for people in a few months
<myco> a friend of mine runs this permaculture site
<myco> and we're going to mass produce for ZT soon
<Sobra> mushrooms beat grubs anyday of the week
<myco> uh huh
<Clipper> I have to agree there.
<myco> better protein source also
<S7L> composting is also able to reduce toxins in land
<myco> well thats what mushrooms do
<myco> they decompose
<myco> compost
<S7L> yes, true.
<myco> this particular strain that eats oil and hydrocarbons though
<myco> do so SO efficiently that micro organisms return to the soil in 6-8 weeks
<myco> the application to us
<Zetapal> a good distinction S7L - I'm not sure but probably yes,the more direct experience would feel stronger if it matches the current situation allegorically - however leave room for a strong witness as when a spirit guide or other diembodied spirit may be trying to influence or warn a person as the soul may have had great experience with subtle communication  in past lives which would translate over into a stronger intuitiveness channel in th
<myco> is that we can use them on water beds and near aquifers
<myco> to purify water sources
<S7L> Zetapal: you were clipped: 'intuitiveness channel in th'
<Torbj> now we are int growing...nice.....love that!
<S7L> please keep it down in around 500 chars
<Clipper> That will be needed.
<myco> thats the application for the 'scrubber' species that we've been workig with
<myco> using them along tainted water sources
<myco> they also eat bacterias and viruses
<myco> heheh
<myco> seeing mycelium eat E. Coli is pretty cool ;)
<Clipper> Nummy, nummy.:-)
<Zetapal> channel in this life.
<S7L> mmm.
<Zetapal> good huh lol
<Torbj> ever heard of "Sutherlandia frutescens" from south Africa?
<S7L> Zetapal: ok. GOod points. I don't know if that is how it really goes
<Clipper> It will be hard going to mushrooms, alge and fish.
<S7L> I don't know on WHICH side of the fence consciousness really is
<Sobra> the fish won't be hard
* Sobra loves fish
<myco> not really
<S7L> the soul obviously monitors the brain and knows all
<myco> i think aqua culture is leaps and bounds more difficult
* Clipper loves meat and potatoes:-)
<S7L> the brain, however, source of the mundane consciousness, can not see what the soul knows
<S7L> I think what we _Experience_ as consciousness is on the soul side
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<S7L> the mundane conscious is very weak, and what we call self is on the soul side
<SteveO> IQx: hi iqx, will the radio show start after the chat?
<Sobra> lol Clipper that's  the typical southern meal
<Clipper> I used to be southern I reckin
<myco> hey clip, stick your nose in the message window a sec
<Sobra> hehehe
<shaddyslim> http://www.yowusa.com/Archive/February2002/xkbo5/xkbo5.htm
<Torbj> This is fun!...yuo can acually use youe brain to "translate" the feelings in your stomach to "vissible patterns"...that you then can make use of, with your brain, knowing with your stomach that´s the right thing!
<SteveO> join /#troubled_times
<Torbj> im not drunk...just not so good at english
<Zetapal> good thoughts S7L - also when considering the brain remember there's a three level consciousness model generally accepted - conscious (or waking consciousness)  sub-conscious(sleeping? or just under the surface  and an active unconscious(?)
<Zetapal> thats for the individual - then we get into...
<S7L> yes, that's the three levels commonly considered.
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<Zetapal> collective cons. collective sub-cons. collective uncons.  then a spiritual cons. etc.
<Sobra> it almost sounds as if a person is their own little community hehe
<Zetapal> some are lol
<Torbj> a person is thr WHOLE world, my friend!
<Zetapal> becomes a matter or prioretizing and managing thoughts
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<Spanky> this place has been slow this weke
<Sobra> so we go in five hundred different directions on a busy day that un nerfves us there is actually a reason for it? :)
<Zetapal> based on source,what they point to,the immediacy of the situation and the implications of agreeing with them, disagreeing.or suspension(til further review)
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<Sobra> hm
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<Sobra> now see I find that part of it fasconating hehe I'm no student of psychology but I am and always have been interested in the cosciousness of man as well as the topic of emtoions that was being discussed a moment ago and how they are related
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<cmel> Hi all
<Zetapal> yes it is fascinating think of this...
<Spanky> anyone thinks nancy puts people who email her on spam lists?
<Zetapal> you become conscious of whatever you focus on at any given time...
<SWB> Don't forget nancy is going to be radio (Blakeradio.com, channel 5) at 4:00PM mst today I believe.
<Sobra> hour and a half from now
<cmel> Can that be heard on the net ? SWB
<obany> yes it can
<SWB> yes
<Zetapal> therefore your consciousness(waking) is like youe money,you only have so much of it to spend on any one thing as there are only so many hours in the day...
<obany> http://www.blakeradio.com/html/rainbow_soul/rs.shtml
<IQx|AwAy> SWB: 4:00 PM MST - 6:00 PM EST - 23:00 UTC
<Torbj> zetapal...right...that´s the ways yuor dreams funkyion allso.....but there you dont have the brain!
<SteveO> obany: is it for free or must i register to listen the show?
<Torbj> on focus...
<IQx|AwAy> I believe its free
<SWB> it is free
<Zetapal> in fact it is much like money-look at how much effort advertisers put into getting some of your attention - it has value for them - so maybe I should value it
<SteveO> and i have only to click at channel five
<Sobra> ah so when we "spread ourselves thin" we are actually taking away from a storehouse of resources as far as our consciousness goes, would that too relate to densiety?  The higher up a being is evolved the more things they can consentrate on at once?
<sirgrim> obany: she's gonna be on rainbow soul?
<IQx|AwAy> ok all, im going away (again)
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<Zetapal> its a precious resource
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<SWB> I have been listening today on some other interesting subjects
<Spanky> speaking of internet radio, anyone check out www.digitallyimported.com (good trance/techno)
<SWB> I will check it out
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<Sobra> SWB Did you hear their JFK and assasination guy thatwas on earlier?  I dont knwo how impressed I was by that
<Spanky> or are most people here too old for that?
<SWB> yes, I thought it was great
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<Sobra> some of it was interesting
<IQx|AwAy> Hey Nancy =)
<Spanky> JFK assasination?  most people believe bush is the greatest president of all time, let alone that there was a kennedy conspiracy
<IQx|AwAy> how are ya
<IQx|AwAy> Sorry cant join you tonight, have to leave
<IQx|AwAy> but ill read the logs
<IQx|AwAy> cya Nancy =)
<IMO> The Jan 19 OHP image shows only objects long there, no planet; see http://us.geocities.com/openmindxx/
<obany> Hello Nancy
<jos{banned_from_tt_watch}> bye IQ
<obany> jos: could you at least change your nick now
<S7L> greetings NAncy.
<IQx|AwAy> bye jos (dont give up)
<IQx|AwAy> cya all
<cmel> hi Nancy
<IQx|AwAy> g'luck
<IQx|AwAy> =)
<Sobra> afternoon Nancy
<SWB> hi nancy
<NancyL> I just sent Jurian and Gerard the Agenda.  Short one tonight, as I must leave after 45 minutes and go onto webcast with Kanay Mc Ghee :-)
<jos{banned_from_tt_watch}> luve ya IQ
<IQx|AwAy> hehe
<IQx|AwAy> cya
<IMO> Misrepresentation
<IMO> Re: Planet-X, Why "Look Around"
<IMO> Openminded (openmind@telocity.com) wrote:
<IMO> ...
<IMO> > Give us a simple english languge explanation of
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<IMO> > the reason that the blob you claim is your planet is
<IMO> > many 1000's of times fainter than your statement of
<IMO> > its brightness and far too faint to be visible to a human
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<jos{banned_from_tt_watch}> i will NEVER give up, it's my pride to be destroyed in the proces
<SteveO> jos: best wishes
<NancyL> Jos :-)
<jos{banned_from_tt_watch}> thanks
<Jurian> well, then your pride shall be destroyed, sad but true
<Zetapal> erhaps thats true Zorba but I look at it like higher density thinking is that you have already covered that lower level groung,have processed it drawn experience from your decision/action feedback loop and have already learned that area and have solidified your position with regards to that issue and its time to move on to undiscovered concepts ...etc
<jos{banned_from_tt_watch}> not at all Jurian
<S7L> I think jos could really maybe use his energy to work with the existing system, rather than attempt to parallel it
<Zetapal> ground
<Sobra> interesting zp and that makes sense too
<NancyL> IMO the answer to that, given on sci.astro, is that there are issues like the bending of red light that create LESS light in a camera spot that white light as starlight.
<jos{banned_from_tt_watch}> anyway, Nancy, could you perhaps remove the troubled-times website and "incorporated", and maybe the rest? (my arguments are already made so i don't want to rehash them if that's possible)
<NancyL> Also, star light is what the equipment is designed for, whether they say this or not, intense in the center.
<Jurian> jos: as long as you keep insisting on tt being destroyed, the only thing you'll lose is your pride, cause that wont happen
<Torbj> once again....be like little kids...use your stomachs...not your brains...
<jos{banned_from_tt_watch}> you don't understand my pride Jurian, my pride is in fighting for the good cause, whatever it takes
<S7L> Nancy, IMO died because of too long pasting. The server disconnected.
<cmel> Nancy .. could you tell us the agenda for tonight ?
<NancyL> I don't think the spot from Jan 19th is on the star charts, as Pierre and Veronique said it is NOT.
<Jurian> well jos, so is mine
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<S7L> re, IMO.
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<NancyL> Also, Open Minded has been Closed Minded lately about there being TWO spots on Jan 5th, which there obviously are.
<S7L> <NancyL> IMO the answer to that, given on sci.astro, is that there are issues like the bending of red light that create LESS light in a camera spot that white light as starlight.
<SteveO> Jurian: what does kicking mean?
<S7L> <NancyL> Also, star light is what the equipment is designed for, whether they say this or not, intense in the center.
<NancyL> Else the geometrics would be such that the second spot would be ABOVE where it is, and there is a little dot above the NEW dot, etc.
<Jurian> SteveO: it means he has been shown the door
<SteveO> Jurian: why?
<Jurian> cause he insists on being annoying
<SteveO> ok
<Zetapal>  be as evolved beings Torbj - use everyhing at your diposal with sound judgment based on accurate info,acquired experience,and costly wisdom
<Sobra> perhaps with the slightest of an ego?
<Torbj> is there anyway for a amatur to listnen to the planet?
<Jurian> he insists troubled times should be destroyed. he can go insist that somewhere else :p
<S7L> jos is a good chap but there are certain things which seem unsolvable with him
<IMO> See my web page ... Nancy is completely wrong aboutJan 19 image and I show why at http://us.geocities.com/openmindxx/
<SteveO> Jurian: do you know the reason why? was he hurted by TT
<cmel> Torbj I second your move
<Sobra> ZP: Would what you said also be kindof like what makes us have our certain levles of self confedence? beign secure in what we have learned, and in what we know, standingsteadfast on such things, and thus leaving us opne to learn new ones?
<NancyL> It's OK, re the Jos thing, to insist that the tt-watch or whatever be pure, focus on the mission (finding the truth) etc. but the issue to remember that WITHOUT tt-watch et al, where would folks GO to discuss?
<S7L> IMO: I agree, and I can't understand Nancy's explanation either.
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<S7L> Nancy: good point. He's talking about destroying the web-site that he sees as failure
<Zetapal> yes Zorba
<Jurian> NancyL: he's not insisting it be pure, he's insiting the website be removed and the inc destroyed
<S7L> he brings as his argument that it harms zetatalk credibility because it accepts money
<Zetapal> conquered ground zorba
<obany> but this ain't sci.astro btw, this channel .. #zetatalk not #sciastro
<S7L> this makes zetatalk, in his mind (despite tt inc is NOT zetatalk) something like scam
<cmel> Isn't that a good argument ?
<Sobra> perhaps he is just fearfull
<cmel> s7l
<NancyL> Art Bell (whatever the CIA wants me to say)?  Hazelwoods (let me take your $$ and run) spot?  Stan Deyo (only the Bible matters, Deyo) or Whitley Strieber (I don't know nuttin about PX)?
<Zetapal> conscious REAL estate
<NancyL> What they have today is their best opportunity.  
<S7L> this is a bizarre argument. I can't imagine a person who WOULD care about that.
<IQx|AwAy> hehe NancyL
<NancyL> SteveO, Jos has always felt ZT should can TT, disconnect.  However, it IS disconnected, as announces it is two separate entities, etc.
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<IQx|AwAy> how are you handling the new 'boom' NancyL ? =)
<sirgrim> yea and hazelwood said on art bell that the sun's twin is 20 x sun-earth distance, he soo smart! more like 18 sun-pluto..
<SteveO> thanks Nancy
<NancyL> Many people associated with TT are hot heads, strong feelings, and great contributors.  
<Jurian> NancyL: he means disconnect as in moving the TT website from the ZT server, onto its own one, not just having a different name :)
<S7L> cmel: no, it's not a good argument.
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<cmel> IQx|away how are u when u are present ?? ;-)
<NancyL> Our German translator is known to rail at me, periodically, but is a great contributor. I take it with a grain of salt.
<IQx|AwAy> cmel: im both, just doing few things at home, but mostly away =\
<SteveO> Nancy: I have my own experiences with the german translator. he has a bit of a STS
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<S7L> cmel: I don't want to discuss the reasons here, now. But I certainly do not think a person who reads zetatalk ends up on tt.inc, a very different-looking site which announces it has nothing to do with zt and then concludes zt ...
<S7L> is shit because tt.inc accepts money
<NancyL> Vital Earth guy, D. Jones, is another hothead, a Scot, and after he cools off I just pretend he never said all those thing to or about me, and we go on!  GREAT contributor!
<S7L> it might be worse if it REQUIRED money.
<cmel> S7L are u sure it  couldn't currupt the hole zt quest
<free99> Nancy, are we able to see Planet X with an amatuer telescope yet? And if not, when can we?
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<S7L> cmel: most people never get to the tt.inc site until much later
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<jubjub963> how come one of the zt pages says the moon doesn't rotate,   it does
<S7L> hey cool long-period CCD Openminded
<cmel> yes i got got there much later ;-)
<cmel> I'm hesitating when I read stuf on TT
<S7L> there seems to be a few things on the ccd not on the palomar reference, on a first superficial glance.
<Torbj> I meant this in the flesh...is there a way to listnen to the coming planet?   as with the sound of Jupitr?
<S7L> not at nancy's coords, definitely not magnitude 11, but they are there.
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<mikeaus> hi all
<S7L> could be nothing though.
<cmel> & I still follow Torbj in his/her question
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<IMO> There will be lots of things on a CCD image not on PSS ... see my 60 second CCD that shows Pluto
<Torbj> im a his!
<cmel> Torbj male or female ?
<S7L> IMO: correct.
<cmel> sorry ;-))
<NancyL> S7L where the Inc accepts $$, it is SO underfunded and SO exhausts the volunteers who work for nothing that it's a rediculous argument by debunkers.  
<S7L> Nancy: yes, would be so. Except it can be used for marring, of course.
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<NancyL> It does not stick.  We have no salaried folks, and any award for efforts achieved is like  25 cents/hr or less.  
<Torbj> male
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<cmel> I saw ... only too late though ;-(
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<obany> just to inform,  that when the session starts... that one doesn't talk during the answer, and don't ask unrleated questions
<cmel> ;-)
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<SteveO> I will express a great "Thank you" to the TT Crew
<Zetapal> wow that gives an interesting question Torbj - do the inhabitants of Planet X have radio technology and will we be able/permitted to recieve any transmissions during the passing?
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<Torbj> cmel...Carmelita...a woman from Mexico??
<NancyL> There has been a lot of discussion, early on, about separation of ZT and TT.  Of course, ZT came first, and TT is basically based on ZT.
<longint> Nancy, the Zetas what exactly say to you, when pointing to/with such circles?
<Zetapal> different language/music?
<IQx|AwAy> cya NancyL, ill read the logs, cannot stay =)
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<cmel> cmel = male person from northern europe
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<Torbj> as with me then...Sweden
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<NancyL> Like Hazelwood talking about Planet X : 2003 and saying to someone (as he did in an email I got a copy of) that the public would rather listen to a middle aged man than a woman who talks to aliens.
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<cmel> denmark he he
<Fighterr2001> Hello
<NancyL> They'd finally get to "why 2003" and he'd have to say "because the Zetas said so" and he'd be there ANYWAY.
<NancyL> So, what's the diff?
<S7L> NancyL: it's not so immediate and obvious, that's all.
<Zetapal> obviously everyone here talks to aliens...lol
<S7L> Nothing like a picture of alien head announcing it.
<NancyL> So, TT has on their home page, per votes of the group at that time, contributors, that 2003 is the reason as that is why they were all there.
<S7L> but yeah. Valid point.
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<cmel> Nancy could you tell us the agenda for tonight ?
<Fighterr2001> Am I late?
<SteveO> no
<Fighterr2001> sweet, just making sure
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<S7L> yes we might want to start a bit early if that were possible, maybe 5 minutes to 22:00 UTC
<NancyL> I put in the "separate entities" bit because when I got the PointCom award thingie, Ron Darby said "congradulations to all of us" but it was based solely on ZT
<S7L> oh. Think it would be time, then
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<NancyL> Odd fuzzy logic where the line was not drawn.  So I drew it!
<Spanky> and the pointcom review of zetatalk shafted the site.
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<DavidS> So this radioprogramme with Nancy is right after this irc-session?
<NancyL> I think allowing argument about whether ZT is real or whatever vs other stuff in the tt-lists is proof that TT is separate from ZT.
<NancyL> I frankly have no time to read the postings anymore, not for a year or so, really.
<S7L> well, allowing the argument is sensible.
<S7L> people want to have that freedom anyway, to doubt.
<NancyL> cmel, the Agenda ...
<mbrb> Nancy have you seen the yowU.S.A "debate" over Zetatalk, you,Hazelwood and Hoagan?
<NancyL> WW 3
<NancyL> 1. Do the Zetas think that Bush and the Israelis will initiate full scale attacks (ie WW3) in order to
<NancyL> misdirect public attention and hide the money?
<NancyL>  
<NancyL> WW 2
<NancyL> 1. To what extend was WWII a directed/staged war by the Elites. Did they direct it during the war with behind the scenes manipulations. Was the war meant to exclude Britain..
<NancyL> (this was Jos Q0
<NancyL> NWO BUNKERS
<NancyL> 1:  Does no one pay attention to places like Mount Weather and linked underground facilities?
<NancyL> 2. There are many reports of a low humming noise coming from Kokomo, Indiana that has been blamed for several illnesses.  Could you ask the Zetas if it is from alien sources, man made or the Earth responding to the approach of Planet X.  This affects the entire town and no one can explain it.  
<NancyL> Note: tt-watch comment “We spend time in NM and the Dulce area.  We have seen giant fans just
<NancyL> sitting out in the middle of nowhere, as well as HUGE dump trucks.   The thing about the trucks is we can't figure out where they go, or where they have been.    Animal life is the only life around for many many
<NancyL> miles. Some say more happens underground in Colorado~NM then above ground.  
<NancyL> Lucy,
<NancyL> http://UFOWatchTower.com”
<NancyL> Recent ZT on Indianapolis as Safe Location
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<NancyL> Indianapolis lies on the border between land that will be flooded after the existing poles melt, and high ground.  It has the added burden of the US plans for a carry-on government to be located near Kokomo, which will NOT welcome the taxpayers straggling up from Indianapolis, looking for food or assistance or shelter.  Guns will be turned on those who paid for the burrows at Kokomo, and any who refuse to be turned away amicably gunned
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<NancyL> government enclaves.
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<NancyL> Also, I have alwasy been concerned about group formation within TT, BIG open door to get tangled in trouble as distraction, for me.
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<NancyL> I finally agreed to the Group TOPIC, where the disclaimer says it all, and where folks wanting to form a group can receive email to THEM, but TT washes it's hands, etc.
<free99> what is TT exactly?
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<S7L> free99: join #troubled_times for talk about that
<NancyL> Like a bunch of kids, group formation is, with everyone whining and wanting attention and "rights" or whatever.  
<NancyL> A horror.
<NancyL> I avoid it like the plague.
<NancyL> We're at the hour.
<jos{ttwatch_ZTchat_banned}> Nancy, you must remove troubled-times, the projects are WAY less worthwile than you having more time to answer questions, be in good health, and work usenet, etc. BEsides that, it is a big problem undercutting ZT credibility ENOURMESLY, and it has no value/quality, and is wasting reader's time
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<free99> ok,, thanks
<Torbj> let gto of your brain and follow your stomach!
<S7L> jos: there you go again.
<obany> jos: don't start here or you will be banned again ... please
<NancyL> Jos, don't worry, I fight this battle well and have for years.  Folkd NEED TT.
<jos{ttwatch_ZTchat_banned}> i was banned for quite some time for my opinion from this chat just now
<free99> +
<NancyL> Jos, hush so you can be here as your Q is on the Agenda.
<jos{ttwatch_ZTchat_banned}> no nancy, you don't: REMOVE IT!
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<jos{ttwatch_ZTchat_banned}> ok, i'll be quiet for ZT's sake
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<obany> jos: you want to get banned, right ... don't start here .. please ..
<IQx|AwAy> thx jos =)
<NancyL> Jos, give me your reasons and concerns offline.  I'll respond.
<NancyL> Ok, we're on the hour, and I'll start.  I must leave in 45 min for the webcast tonight.
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<jos{ttwatch_ZTchat_banned}> i already emailed them, and posted them to alt.alien.visitors because i was banned from tt-watch
<NancyL> WW 3
<NancyL> 1. Do the Zetas think that Bush and the Israelis will initiate full scale attacks (ie WW3) in order to
<NancyL> misdirect public attention and hide the money?
<obany> jos: stop it now
<NancyL> ZT: WW 3 will not occur, though there will be THREATS of this endlessly going into the shift.
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<jos{ttwatch_ZTchat_banned}> obany, i already stopped, why don't you stop playing intrusive cop for once
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<IQx|AwAy> jos: heh, common =) shh ZT is in Session
<NancyL> ZT: The reason, as we have stated, that full scale war will NOT break out between countries, is that none have a thing to gain from this.
<psyAlien> gteetings
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<NancyL> ZT: What has been occurring, though termed "war" by Bush, Jr. is NOT war, as it is a country against an element, a criminal element, perhaps a revolutionary element, but not another country.
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<NancyL> ZT: Many countries deal with revolution, Spain today, for instance, and do not call this "war".
<psyAlien> hi Nancy..  are you the Nancy refered to on Zetatalk.com ?
<cmel> He he he
<NancyL> ZT: There are black markets, organized crime in the US and Italy and Russia, drug cartels, and this is not "war" though this word is used.
<obany> psy: she is ... please, don't talk now ... there is an answer being given
<psyAlien> ok
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<NancyL> ZT: To focus on issues at the border, as we have mentioned, is a time-honored way of shushing the populace, as they fear to divert the PARENT during troubling times.
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<NancyL> ZT: Countries use this to distract and quiet their populace when internal issues are distressing.
<NancyL> ZT: Countries use this to avoid addressing these issues.
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<NancyL> ZT: If one wants to quiet a squabbling group of siblings, one announces that one of them, or then household, is under attack!
<NancyL> ZT: Every mother can tell you that a united front is formed, and squabbels put aside.
<NancyL> ZT: Thus, we predict that THREATS, and SABER RATTLING will occur, but not war.
<NancyL> End ZT followup?
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<Torbj> hmm as in india then....
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<free99> but will we have martial law?
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<cmel> Obviously countries uses external "threats" to divert the focus ... but does that acur within the EU
<DraganR> ;o)
<NancyL> Free99 ZT: Martial Law is in effect today in some countries, for instance China and Indonesia, though they would not call it such.
<NancyL> ZT: Human rights are nonexistent, and the government uses the military to support itself.
<NancyL> ZT: To the extent that governments use these techniques TODAY, they will continue up into the time of the shift.
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<NancyL> ZT: To the extent that these techniques would be a NEW imposition, they will not, we predict, be deployed.
<canuck> The U.S., Canada UK & Britain have all recently passed strong Emerg. Measures .  Will they declare martial law?
<NancyL> ZT: This is, of course, in the hands of man, something we do not control, and therefore could change.
<free99> the concentration camps are going to be used in the future down in the United States?
<canuck> Ok, I think you just answered.
<sirgrim> I'm interested in the recent shark attacks, whale beachings, bird flight, and other odd animal behaviors as of late. Biblical connections to turning against man, probably x connection.
<free99> ok, thanks
<NancyL> ZT: Countries are striving, at this time, to do the LEAST that will disturb their populace, already uneasy due to weather and crop changes and a world-wide depression not yet called that openly.
<S7L> sirgrim: good but not on agenda. submit to nancy.
<NancyL> ZT: Thus, they will not rock the boat, but will to the extent they can impose Martial Law techniques without fuss from the populace, do so.
<SteveO> wow 62
<NancyL> ZT: Thus, the US has the Bin Laden crowd NOT on US soil, and are NOT calling them prisoner's of war, so they can torture them freely without challenge.
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<NancyL> ZT: Even this has not passed without challenge, and they have taken note of this.
<NancyL> ZT: Thus, Martial Law in the US is not expected.
<NancyL> End ZT to free.
<S7L> how can we prevent our rights being stolen in time leading to shift?
<free99> thankyou Nancy
<NancyL> ZT to canuck: Britain and Canada likewise are exploring their limits.
<NancyL> ZT: These also are countries with a strong history of human rights and law.
<cmel> Will "they" (in EU) impose martial law under the guise of a national emergency ?
<NancyL> ZT: Like the US, we expect they will conclude that such measures are counter-productive.
<SteveH> is the gov't of Canada now aware of the pole shift or still only suspects?
<canuck> thank you
<NancyL> ZT: The repressive will get MORE so, the democratic or socialistic remain so, with the coming changes NOT addressed in the media.
<NancyL> ZT: Expect more distractions like Clinton's sexual escapades, instead.
<NancyL> End ZT to can.
<NancyL> OK, onto Jos's Q2.
<digiDali> nancy, didn't you mention that there are actual aliens on video now?  not the ships but the beings?  where can i find this tape?
<NancyL> WW 2
<NancyL> 1. To what extend was WWII a directed/staged war by the Elites. Did they direct it during the war with behind the scenes manipulations. Was the war meant to exclude Britain..
<mikeaus> please-no questions during the reply!!
<psyAlien> are flying Rods an alien phenomeon ? or an earthly one ?
<NancyL> ZT: WW 2 was started because, primarily, Germany was distressed economically and Hitler was, by personality, prone to point the finger elsewhere.
<obany> psyalien: not related..
<NancyL> ZT: Hitler was doing this in his personal life, his own psychi, thus using these techniques of denial and blame elsewhere came readily to him.
<NancyL> ZT: Those around him evaluated this in light of their own agendas.
<NancyL> ZT: Those who were STS sadists, interested in promoting the STS environment as they understood where they were heading and wanted a better entry into their next incarnation on exclusively STS worlds, created cruel environments.
<NancyL> ZT: Those who were materialistic, opportunitistic, looked for opportunities just as the military-industrial community does today.
<NancyL> ZT: This includes companies like Bayer, reputed to gain greatly as a result of the war.
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<NancyL> ZT: Those with this mindset are not picky, and are AT the place where they are, economically, because they take advantage of any misfortune.
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<NancyL> ZT: Opportunists, wholely.
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<NancyL> ZT: Thus, other than giving an opening for STS aliens to respond to The Call given by control or cruelty oriented humans, advising them on how to treat the Jews in camps to drive their souls, or so they hoped, into hopelessness and the STS orientation as a result, no alien intervention was done.
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<NancyL> ZT: Likewise, wars are rarely started for those interested in economic pursuits alone, but rather eonomic pursuits FOLLOW and take advantage.
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<NancyL> End ZT to Q2 Jos's.
<cmel> What whas the background for the US to "join" the WWII ?
<HBO2> but aren't all of these actions (ww2, afganistan, Israel/Palestine) ultimately directed by NWO?
<Fighterr2001> How drastic will the measures taken by the US goverment be at the time of the shift? How can we resist?
<NancyL> Followup?
<SteveO> did the horror created by the nazi's had an effect on the orientation decission of mankind?
<cmel> Sorry for the hurry
<cmel> ;-)
<NancyL> ZT to cmel: The uS joined WW 2 because it saw itself becoming involved, ultimately.
<Jan> I assume the STSes of WWII are satisfied with the resulting effects on the Jews?
<NancyL> ZT: It was a logical decision to join before their partners were demolished.
<Jan> (or rather, their change in orientation)
<Torbj> id did steve!
<NancyL> ZT: As a combined team, with shores that could be landed, success was possible, as later this was complicated.
<NancyL> End ZT to cmel.
<cmel> Thanks Nancy
<cmel> And ZT
<NancyL> ZT to HBO2: Political control IS the engine driving wars, and their start.
<NancyL> ZT: Politicians, as corporate executives, are control driven, wanting to be on top of the pile and able to control others, able to control events and their direction.
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<NancyL> ZT: Those who have been raised in a household headed by a control freak will tell you that the issue is not WHAT is under contention, but that it IS under contention.
<NancyL> ZT: If father is a control freak and the child has been told to polish his shoes, then a failure to do so sends father into a rage.
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<NancyL> ZT: He would ultimately burn the house down to win this silly issue!
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<NancyL> ZT: This is because being IN control is the issue, not the shoes.
<Torbj> !
<NancyL> ZT: Likewise, if mother is a control freak, then not eating your broccoli as ordered sends her into a pout and fume that will not end until the child is forceed, late at night and in front of a plate of cold broccoli, to EAT.
<NancyL> ZT: This is because the issues is not the brocccoli, or the vitamins to be gained (which in any case have many sources) but WHETHER OR NOT her word rules.
<Spud> sounds like mis sister!
<Aarxan> and I still refused until my dad created the first brocolli flying saucer into garden
<Spud> mis=my
<NancyL> ZT: In this manner, corporate executive want to earn MONEY, and wars are not predictable, as they are run by government leaders, control freasks with another mind set.
<NancyL> ZT: Corporations thus do another kind of war, making partnerships, breaking laws, moving about internationally.
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<Sobra> so the means to getting what is desired isn't as important as GETTING  it
<NancyL> ZT: Political leaders engage in war to effect contorl of their borders or their polulate.
<Sobra> ?
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<NancyL> ZT: So, economic interests take ADVANTAGE of war, but do not start them.
<NancyL> End ZT to HBO2.
<HBO2> thx
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<NancyL> Going to Q3/4 as time is hsort.
<NancyL> NWO BUNKERS
<NancyL> 1:  Does no one pay attention to places like Mount Weather and linked underground facilities?
<Aarxan> Seems war starts from people with ego, so no ego, no war
<NancyL> 2. There are many reports of a low humming noise coming from Kokomo, Indiana that has been blamed for several illnesses.  Could you ask the Zetas if it is from alien sources, man made or the Earth responding to the approach of Planet X.  This affects the entire town and no one can explain it.  
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<NancyL> ZT: Underground bunkers where the US government expect to proceed as a carry-on government have long been in the nes.
<NancyL> ZT: Mt. Weather was a shock and an expose' when first discovered, as it was so well outfitted and financed that the issues was more HOW such a facility could escape notice, not only physically but financially within the budget, rather than any other implication.
<NancyL> ZT: Since its discovery, and exposure, Mt. Weather has NOT been the location of choice.
<NancyL> ZT: This is, obviously, because it is well known, and in times of trouble the public would crowd the entry and lay there, dying and stinking, complicating life at this facility.
<NancyL> ZT: Instead, other facilities not exposed, and supposedly secret, have been promoted.
<cmel> money wasted ?
<Sobra> exactly, will they even be of any use
<Aarxan> Mount Hasa
<NancyL> ZT: This includes, as is well know but their neighbors, as we have detailed, a spot in Indiana, the prime location now.
<NancyL> ZT: Near Kokomo, Indiana, in the hills surrounding this small town, burrowing goes on as the shift approahces.
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<cmel> how about places in europe ?
<NancyL> ZT: Other faciities are know in the mountains of New Mexico, adjoining to faciliites above ground in Utah and Colorado.
<cmel> haven't heard about any ...?
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<NancyL> ZT: Less well known are faciliteis in Houston, which will be much under water but were placed there to satisy the Bush family, who were not into listenting to our warninga aoubt Earth cxhanges and flooding.
<NancyL> ZT: These in fact received the greater amount of funding, and are stymied now as to what to do - move or stay and risk drowning?
<NancyL> ZT: Facillities to house the elite are also fairly well know, in North Carollina and Whyoming, prise locations of the ultra right.
<NancyL> ZT: In other countries, such as the Urals in Russia, there are known locations.
<NancyL> ZT: Britain is planning to LEAVE their island and head elsewhere, mostl likely Australia.
<NancyL> ZT: This is little publicized, but the rules about immigration in Australia reflect this mindset.
<cmel> And Europe ?
<NancyL> ZT: Canada has become a mass of public opinion the Brits do not welcome, and Australia has pockets of the ultra right well in hand for many decades, which the Brits feel they can count upon.
<NancyL> ZT: Africa, where expected to be above the waves, is considered a sess-pool of infection, Ebola not the only issue of concern.
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<NancyL> ZT: Muslim countries are expected to remain, the ruling class sitting tight, as they have no confidence in their abillity to move and still be on top of hte p[ile.
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<NancyL> End ZT on this matter and must go soon!
<HBO2> why did Bush begin the Houston facility if not aware of pole shift?
<misiaczek> Were underground cities in Capadocia built as shelters before the last shift?
<cmel> Mainland EU ?
<Aarxan> :-))
<canuck> where in Canada are the elite headed?
<NancyL> ZT to HBO2: Sr Bush was aware of the Zeta predictions, but being HIGHLY STS listened to these aliens voices instead.
<Torbj> in with obh2
<Torbj> why?
<Zetapal> what of the strange humming and sickness?
<NancyL> ZT: They are interested in agony, great dispari, and raising hopes and then dashing them achieves this end.
<NancyL> ZT: Likewise, the Texas trent to house prisonres and mistreat them, has a STS base.
<NancyL> ZT: Rather than cost cutting, the Sr. Bush intended to have them released, escape, and be his savaging hord overtaking survivors in the US.
<NancyL> ZT: Do you think it an accidnet taht so many prison escapes occur, in Texas?  This is by PLAN, occurring earlyier than expected.
<NancyL> End ZT.
<Fighterr2001> is there anything we can do?
<HBO2> may they all reincarnate as mosquitos!
<NancyL> Gottoa go!  Webcast in 10 min!
<mikeaus> nice guy
<DavidS> I see in the BLAKERADIO that the name Mark Hazelwood will be a guest
<SteveO> does anyone know who is talking about the poleshift on blakeradio?
<Fighterr2001> webcast? whats that?
<mikeaus> thanks Nancy
<HBO2> catch on the air
<kirk> what webcast? could someone tell me pls?
<jos> good luck Nancy!
<canuck> hazlewood was on last nite
<NancyL> David S, I'm on, so we'll see.
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<NancyL> Bye!
<SteveO> good luck from me too
<Fighterr2001> ah
<free99> thanks nancy, and thanks Zetas
<NapoleonB> bye
<jos> let it rip :)
<obany> he is on now .... http://www.blakeradio.com/html/rainbow_soul/rs.shtml
<SteveO> bye Nancy
<SteveH> bye nancy!
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<cmel> tanks
<Jan> gOOD LUCK!
<canuck> bye nancy thanks.,
<SWB> thanks NancyL
<Fighterr2001> Glad to see your making your self known Nancy
<NapoleonB> hey whats up with the webcast?
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<kirk> cheers, bye.
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<karen> you go girl!!!!!!
<Fighterr2001> what is a webcast?
<Aarxan> so we go all to that URL  http://www.blakeradio.com/html/rainbow_soul/rs.shtml
<Aarxan> <SteveO> bye Nancy
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<obany> one can listen trough it bye mp3 stream, ram file and asx
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<Aarxan> if not download netscape
<Aarxan> :-))
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Session Start: Sat Feb 23 15:12:30 2002
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*** Topic is 'during the session follow up questions related to the answer given can be asked, after the answer is given (follow up questions)'
*** Set by obany on Sat Feb 23 13:53:13
-IQx|AwAy- Welcome to ZetaTalk - http://www.zetatalk.com - Enjoy Your Stay
-IQx|AwAy- IRC session on Sat, Feb 23, 2002, 22:00 UTC/GMT : more info http://www.zetatalk.com/index/z01.htm
-IQx|AwAy- Dont forget to tune in with Nancy on Radio - www.BlakeRadio.com - Channel 5 Rainbow - Saturday, Feb 23, 2002 - 6:00 EST (23:00 UTC) For 3 Hours ( http://www.blakeradio.com/html/rainbow_soul/rs.shtml )
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<Aarxan> yes, but the foreplay is not so sweet...
<SteveH> it looks like this program is 25minutes long
<{homy}> hallo obany hoe is het met jou gesteld vandaag?
<Aarxan> 't is in 't engels hiere
<Sobra> I wonder who the woman singing is \
<canuck> great...really wanted to hear about erections
<Jurian> yeah, NOT
<obany> I am fine homy
<Torbj> sexual dysfuctionn....what´s that....if not a reflection of the feelings in your stomach.....filtered through your brain...
<Aarxan> I think she's that women of the wwII
<Samsara2001> Is nancy going to be on tonight or not?
<Aarxan> Mister Sadman's women...
<{homy}> when you wanna fuck , just fuck
<Sobra> lol
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<canuck> always use a condom!
<{homy}> sure
<canuck> except with yourself
<Fighterr2001> I got to go, can someone send me the recording if nancy gets on today?
<Sobra> I don't have a problem maintaining an erection! *gags announcer*
<{homy}> yes jurkie
<Fighterr2001> ?
<canuck> someone should gag the announcer
<Aarxan> maybe the photonbelts reacts with his erections ?
<Torbj> erection is not sex!
<Aarxan> Solar bursts ?
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<{homy}> the super sperm
<Aarxan> maybe he thinkgs he has invinted a new attenna
<{homy}> the seemen
<breeze> This is annoying...i wanna hear nancy
<Fighterr2001> can someone send me Nancys radio show for today? fighterr2001@hotmail.com
<Fighterr2001> i got to go
<Zetapal> I hate it when people who don't know anything try to act like they know something...
<Alexey> People, in how much time will Nancy be on air tonight? How much time is remaining?
<{homy}> you wanna hear nancy come
<Zetapal> detoxify
<Zetapal> duh
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<canuck> wow..doesn't he sound knowledgeable!
<Sobra> gotta hate sexual pressure...
<Zetapal> brother
<breeze> Its a bitch..
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<Zetapal> blah blah blah
<Torbj> is this commersial....for what??
<cmel> where is Nancy ...
<{homy}> some people need extencive information
<Torbj> milk???
<Torbj> or condoms??
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<cmel> in space I presume
<obany> for sex, i am sure Nancy will be on soon ...
<Aarxan> no i think he is a distraction
<Jurian> dont think so
<Zetapal> how do you make a hormone?
<Aarxan> i set up from gouverment
<breeze> Maybe she is on one of the other channels?
<{homy}> to get a erection aarxan?
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<Aarxan> so we fall all asleep ;-))
<{homy}> yeah
<Zetapal> extracellular and intracellular
<Zetapal> cluster water
<Aarxan> oo cellcommunication
<{homy}> he is also talking about feeding the body
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<Sobra> hamburgers do not clog me up!
<Sobra> this guy lies!
<breeze> Hes talking about cluster water
<breeze> As in superionized water?
<{homy}> he sounds fatt
<Zetapal> he should be in a cell
<Aarxan> fail balncing water
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<{homy}> he is over wait
<Jurian> Zetapal: yeah, a padded one
<mikeaus> he sounds fat and OLD
<Aarxan> waterfalls
<Zetapal> lol
<{homy}> lol
<canuck> hey..don't dis us oldsters!
<mikeaus> ;)
<{homy}> but he has a good hart
<SteveO> do you think that Nancy will start soon
<canuck> he sounds like a dark
<breeze> I think he looks like bleedin' gums murphy
<canuck> make that dork
<obany> i think she will be on soon yes .. but this is getting anoying now
<mikeaus> yeah maybe it's Barry White
<Zetapal> I CAN get an erection, I CAN,I CAN, I BELIEVE I CAN
<canuck> actually, it sounds like he's filling in time
<Aarxan> :-))
<obany> tjakaaaaaaaa
<Lebrasse> bleeding gums murphy is dead!! too many burgers
<breeze> yeah
<{homy}> damn what a ruze
<mikeaus> Nancy must be hassling Hazlewood *L*
<breeze> He didnt detoxify
<mikeaus> prolly an argument going on in the studio
<{homy}> toxicity
<SteveO> my little friend is crying about that talk
<Aarxan> ratelband shows up here
<Lebrasse> lol breeze
<Torbj> dr padau...sys legnth is 25 min.....shou7ld be 10 minits left of this crap then....
<Zetapal> don't go to any doctor?
<Aarxan> I wonder can we kick him ?
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<Aarxan> :-))
<Zetapal> and so forth...
<Jurian> haha, if labiel ratelband comes here, I'm gonna kick his ass :p
<SteveO> this hazelwood guy made ZT
<Zetapal> there are things you can do...I'm not gonna tell you what they are or how
<{homy}> soo hoeveel nederlanders zijn er hier?
<Jurian> uh, kweenie? :)
<SteveO> I'm only a neighbour
<breeze> This guy is lionel ritchie
<Torbj> didnt Nancy tell someone when sce was scedueld to be on air??...I cant find this info on the radiosite...
<Aarxan> nou moet je me niet beledigen hé, ik heb veel mensen onder ogen gezien en nogal de moeite getroost om hen enige intteelectuele bagage mee te geven zodat hun hersencellen nog voor iets gebruikt werden
<{homy}> waar kom jij vandaanm jurian?
<Zetapal> detox
<Jurian> uit 't westland :)
<mikeaus> hazlewood made ZT????? what?
<{homy}> waar heb je het over aarxan?
<Sobra> multiple orgasms...
<Sobra> god
<Zetapal> detox ? how?
<Aarxan> Emieleke Ratelband
<Zetapal> what is that?
<canuck> Tobj..she said 6 to 9 p.m EST
<SteveO> was a joke :)
<mikeaus> oh
<Jurian> Aarxan: labiel ratelband :p
<Aarxan> zetapal he is just a very good dutch speaker
<Aarxan> he can speak at a very high bit rate
<{homy}> who?
<Aarxan> extremely high
<SteveO> i'm detoxifying
<canuck> let's see how many countries are rep. here...Canada
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<Jurian> HOLLAND :P
<Aarxan> BELGIUM
<SteveO> GERMANY
<{homy}> HOLLAND
<Dyod> FRANCE
<HBO2> USA
<Alexey> RUSSIA
<butch> US
<Zetapal> neurotoxins falling from the sky
<breeze> SCOTLAND
<Sobra> USA
<Bip-Bip> Kosovo, Albania (yes, both)
<mikeaus> Australia
<SteveO> we are the world
<kian> SINGAPORE
<Alexey> so funny :)
<Zetapal> optimumly
<{homy}> whow cool
<obany> Holland
<canuck> anyone from OZ?
<mikeaus> yep me canuck
<SteveO> clapping my shoes
<HBO2> all of us
<canuck> good global rep
<Alexey> We are the Earth, we are the children!
<{homy}> the whole world is here  :)
<mikeaus> hehe
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Session Close: Sat Feb 23 15:24:45 2002