Session Start: Sat Apr 20 14:01:01 2002
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*** Topic is 'session today Sat, Apr 20, 2002, 22:00 UTC/GMT: more info on http://www.zetatalk.com/index/z01.htm'
*** Set by obany on Sat Apr 20 07:25:55
<Bip-Bip> or russian .. ?
<DraganR> BB that is right
<S7L> how it worked was that they pumped it with an IR source for a while every morning and then simply extracted a steady output of IR radiation for the rest of the day
<Bip-Bip> ah ok.
<DraganR> serbian
<BrianC> obany: I think it is one of those things that will change our world drastically once we have access to it.  I bet the Zeta's are saving it as a surprise.
<S7L> as far as it sounds like, it's in direct violation with the conservation of Energy principle.
<Ouroboros> what do you entities look like exactly?
<obany> Brianc: we are not ready for aht yet... that's why... talking about 4th density over here of course
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<BrianC> Ouroboros: ...probably much like yourself.
<Bip-Bip> DraganR where exactly do you live ?
<Ouroboros> what about spirituality, are you spiritual
<S7L> but the concept of self-sustaining oscillations is not completely unresearched. It seems promising area to me.
<DraganR> Canada BB
<tizza> shit S7L the brain aint keyed in for that much info at 6.30 in the morning haha
<Ouroboros> why probably much like us??? You don't know what you look like?
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<Bip-Bip> aha, ok.
<Ouroboros> do you know that I AM GOD?
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<S7L> tizza: it's very late for me. I'm in a complete mental shape as I'm on my best during nights.
<tizza> but yes i agree that would be the way to move forward
<BrianC> obany: Yeah, they have to save some things for later.  But I would love to get to play now instead of later.
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<obany> ourobor: only humans here at this time.. The irc session hasn't started yet... Even Nancy who relays the answers is just a human
<Ouroboros> ah ok
<Ouroboros> she is channelling
<obany> telepathy, there is a difference
<Ouroboros> when will the session start then?
<tizza> so iam thinking after
<Ouroboros> are they draconians?
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<obany> in about 55 minuts from now, but usualy Nancy joines a little earlier
<obany> and no they are not draconians
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<S7L> hello Zetap.
<n>  maybe a good qeustion: Has the zeta's something to say about apples with "crop circle-symbols" printed on it ???
<Zetapal> hey
<tizza> PS if all trees die thru lack of sunlight there should be large amounts of timber to burn in order to fuel various things such as water purifacation yeh?
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<obany> n: well n if the session is not open questions has to be send in by email as you knw... and as i also said i just think that the apple thing is kinda nonsense, it doesn't sound well truthfull to me
<S7L> tizza: not likely. Consider the wetness and insects; they'll get the wood also.
<S7L> you have to work to keep it clean and warm, in order to prevent decay.
<BrianC> Note to everybody, most questions are answered on www.zetatalk.com   .   It is considered rude to ask questions with out first checking for it on zetatalk.  There is a good search engine for zetatalk at http://www.zetatalk.com/search/freefind.htm
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<tizza> S7L : true...bit of a prob there...looks like wind may be the only way to go
<Ouroboros> are the zetans linked with the Raël movement?
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<obany> brianc: a good point i think.. and of course asking irrelevant questions not related to the agenda is a not one of course
<jj> whats the zetas favorite color?
<obany> ouroborus: NOT linked, no connection with that movement what so ever
<jj> lol
<BrianC> Ouroboros, ... I don't think so
<Ouroboros> are these entities spiritually enlightened or only technologically advanced?
<n>  Who knows about The Ramala books??
<an> tizza: wind and water mills will be good.
<BrianC> Ouroboros: although I've read the book that Rael wrote, I'm not sure I like the fact that he encourages cash donations so much.
<tizza> an: yes but only providing that your water is clean...had the whole "purification" bit setup for "heat" source
<Ouroboros> what about spirituality? Do they know who they really are?
<obany> ouroborus: they are from 4th density, and what do you mean with spiritualy englighned? anyway most of those kind of questions you are asking at this time can be read on www.zetatalk.com
<jubjub963> read the site, criminy
<an> tizza: I'm speaking about producing energy for everything.
<BrianC> S7L: do you post in troubled times?
<S7L> Me? I used to. Not any more.
<jj> humans,a delicacy known throughout the universe! mmmm mmmm good
<S7L> Not since the Jan/Milly thing.
<Zetapal> Ouroboros ,either one or the other?  lets say that where they are in their development makes them more knowledgeable than us in most things but the don't claim to know all the answers to all mysteries
<Ouroboros> what is the 4th dimension according to them?
<BrianC> Really, I haven't really followed the Jan/Milly thing.  What was so big about it?
<tizza> an: so produce energy...create "electrical" heat to activate purifier
<an> tizza: yup!
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<tizza> BINGO!! hehe
<BrianC> Hello SteveH!!
<SteveH> hello all
<tizza> shall dedicate some thought in that dirrection :)
<obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/french/d00.htm  http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d00.htm   you could check that info about 4th density
<obany> he Steve, how are you doing?
<an> tizza: check out Troubled Times thru ZetaTalk for more info. 8)
<tizza> shall do :)
<SteveH> excellent obany, how are you?
<BrianC> Ouroboros:  It looks to me like you would be better to spend your time looking over the www.zetatalk.com page.
<SWB> Hi everyone; looks like the Zeta's called it right on the world finanicial state. Argentina closed their banks this morning.
<obany> steveh: i feel fine
<BrianC> S7L :  I haven't really noticed any changes on Troubled Times, at least there hasn't been any changes to the service.
<S7L> BrianC: the lists have quieted down a lot.
<tizza> SWB:and rumor has it south africa is quietly slidding that way too
<S7L> I experienced a substantial change in the mood, in form of eliminating the differing opinions as conflicting with the premise of TT.
<SWB> I look for either japan or Germany to go next.
<S7L> Since I don't believe a premise rules over what people want to discuss, I considered it as a defeat to open discussion.
<tizza> i saw an interesting chart of the market pre great depression overlayed on current ...spooky how close the "peaks" and "lows" are at the moment
<BrianC> I had a strange feeling of irony when the warnings for a terrorist attack went out to all banks...Bank?  Since when have banks been an issue with the terrorist attacks!?
<SWB> Any thing to mess up our economy.
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<BrianC> S7L : I understand, but premise rules help keep out a lot of garbage.
<SWB> The Work trade center was one big bank - wasn't it?
<S7L> basically, but it is never an excuse for stiffling contradictory viewpoints when they are valid.
<jj> tizza,anyway you could show me that chart,i have a friend that would love to see it?
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<tizza> jj hang on see if i can find it
<SWB> I would like to see it also.
<jj> thanks
<BrianC> I haven't heard one thing in the news until yesterday that related those terrorist attacks to banks.  Nancy on the other hand mentioned it...immediately.
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<obany> we had this discussion before and the whole point well was that tt-watch seemed to turn into a second sci.astro
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<obany> hello
<SWB> hi!
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<BrianC> Another tick for the Zeta Accuracy I would say, and definetly at least another Zeta's right again for sci.astro
<S7L> obany: and that is valid, as long as the sightings of the planet are as dubious as they are
<Torbj> hello
<jj> greed and corruption,the killer of civilization
<S7L> in fact, I would rather say the "nearly certain non-sightings of the planet"
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<obany> some minor rules for during the session: no chatter when the Zetas are giving the answer, wait with asking follow up questions when Nancy said so .. That's about it
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<SWB> Sounds good
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<obany> s7l: well then folks can discuss that now on that other yahoogroup or go to sci.astro themself ...
<Torbj> you have heard of argentina closing their bankingsystems?
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<SWB> This Morning
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<S7L> obany: yes, while nancy spouts her misrepresentations unchallenged.
* S7L is not particularly happy.
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<BrianC> I relate with you S7L,  it feels almost pointless to even try to get a picture anymore.
<RobH> had a great quake here in New York state, i live on Long Island, was up at 6:50 but didnt feel a thing.....USGS says 5.1, two aftershocks too.....hhmmmmm
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<Torbj> and mexico yesterday...
<SWB> It was on CNN this morning
<laslo_> things are happening quickly
<Zetapal> Torbj hows your stomach today?
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<SWB> It is going to get interesting
<Torbj> goooood....*thre beer´s in it*
<Zetapal> lol
<BrianC> Hello canuck, good letter today.
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<canuck> thank you
<canuck> do yu agree?
<Torbj> how´s yours?
<Zetapal> ok I think
<obany> hi DavidS
<Torbj> leting it live a life from your brain?
<BrianC> Yes very very much, got me thinking
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<Zetapal> yeah sure
<canuck> good, I hoped so
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<BrianC> Got me thinking about how important my everyday decisions are.  How they effect the group.
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<Zetapal> affect
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<canuck> yes...hope others will think too
<tizza> an : seem to have deleated the bookmark...will try to dig it out and post it here next week :(
<Torbj> your everyday decisions should be...your everyday movement....
<skeleton> hmm has the session started or ended ?
<DavidS> Hi,Obany I was away reading some newsgroupinfo:-)
<jj> presession
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<Zetapal> skeleton only two choices?
<jj> lol
<Zetapal> whew
<skeleton> not begun ?
<Jurian> don't ping the whole channel, freak :P
<skeleton> the 3rd option
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<Zetapal> correct
<jj> yep
<an> tizza: no biggie... http://www.zetatalk.com/thub.htm will take you everywhere in TT.
<an> tizza: 8)
<sirgrim> stricter entry system by 2003 per US gov
<skeleton> this has grown significantly since the last time i watched the chat live
<skeleton> perhaps by 65%
<tizza> an : na its buggin me now ...cause i saved it to show to our group and now i cant find it!!  lol
<AndrewP> the U.S have already cut the time from 6 months to ninety days for Aussie tourist visas
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<jj> you will find it again....don't stress
<an> tizza: just go there and bookmark it again. LOL
<RedD2go> Hey HBO
<matt> don't want foreigners when the crunch comes ?
<Torbj> do anyone of you remember  and think about your dreams?
<skeleton> of course, torbj
<Zetapal> anyone else here from the states notice that the govt. has started advertising the formation of neighborhood watch programs with commercials featuring the old/lovable Ed McMahn ???
<Torbj> during the day?
<HBO> Hey Red..how's was the road trip?
<tizza> an :  yeh just trying to remember were "there" was exactly :)
<RedD2go> haasn't happened yet... things got messed up :\
<S7L> Torbj: I do remember my dreams, at least a few each night.
<Torbj> you talk to yourself during the dreams without your brain "waching" your own message to youselves
<AndrewP> has anyone seen themselves in a dream?
<S7L> AndrewP: me.
<skeleton> last night i was dozing off during a music concert, and my subconscious spoke to me
<canuck> I see myself as someone else
<matt> AndrewP: yes
<skeleton> trying to figure out if it gives out jibberish sometimes or not
<matt> saw aUFO for the first time i can remember,in a dream a few days ago
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<Torbj> many of you people within here could really get som ansvers by "feeling" your dreams during your wakening ours...
<AndrewP> torbj: that is very true considering the ZT content!
<BrianC> I think T-T should be made more visible to people from the ZT web page.
<obany> matt: well a dream might be well a recall of something.
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<AndrewP> BrianC: I don't have webcam;)
<sirgrim> hi nancy
<NancyL> Just send Jurian and Gerard the Agenda ...
<canuck> Hi Nancy..no calls yet!
<obany> Brianc: as you know Zetatalk and Troubled Times are 2 seprate entities
<Zetapal> Torbj you assume we don't,that presumption,pardon my saying,is slightly offensive and condescending of you
<SteveH> hi Nancy :)
<BrianC> Yes but they have a similar agenda
<NancyL> Agenda: UNCERTAINTIES, i.e. the AGONY of the WAIT!
<Torbj> before you go to bed...just tell yourself you will remember yor drems when avakening...
<AndrewP> I read part of wingmakers the other day and that too is similar
<skeleton> Zetapal-- what do you have to prove ?
<NancyL> In the words of someone who e-mailed me ...
<NancyL> "I'm sure you understand the absolutely stunning and significant role you are performing for mankind, which will undoubatedly be errased in the coming poleshift (if it occurs).  But alas, I have nagging uncertainties and doubts..."
<matt> hehe
<AndrewP> what a great agenda question which I am sure is on everyone's mind :)
<DavidS> This question I think could come from everyone in this chat now. Very good question!
<BrianC> I would like to hear some more about you Nancy and how you look at things.
<tizza> hi nancy :)
<NancyL> By the by, one of the shoes about to drop is brushing it's toe along the flood, but not dropped yet.  More later, WHEN it drops.
<matt> won't it be obvious then though?
<NancyL> Actually, I heard from two solid souls, been around awhile and I know them both fairly well due to long association.
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<Zetapal> skeleton I have not a thing to prove - don't you find the same offensive-ie.someone presuming you could learn alot by doing thus and so?
<NancyL> Both were saying more or less the same thing!  It's getting time, time is close, I need to act or not, so ... make me feel CERTAIN!
<S7L> Zetapal: it may be curious, but no.
<NancyL> Matt, yes, it will be obvious but won't be on the news, just within ZetaTalk news, etc.
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<S7L> Zetapal: I see no reason to be offended. Mr. Torbj speaks in a style that has become very familiar to me, perhaps that is why. He is predictable to 80-90 %.
<Zetapal> ok let me say this then...
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<matt> ok
<BrianC> Nancy, what do you think about the terrorist warning issued to banks accross America yesterday?
<Torbj> is that bad to you?
<S7L> hello karen! nice to see you.
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<karen> Hi  S7L  
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<NancyL> To IQx, re New York state, you just had a 5.1 in an area not thought to be a fault line.  I still would like to know what has NOT been addressed, to your satisfaction, in the Safe Locations writeups the Zetas have done.
<NancyL> BrianC, I didn't realize the terrorists had issued it.  
<S7L> NAncy, IQx is not present.
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<S7L> but he will be forwarded your statement.
<BrianC> No it was the government that issued it.
<karen> We  are starting at 6 right?
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<Jurian> starting in 15, whatever time that is for you :-)
<obany> karen: in about 12 minuts from now
<sirgrim> guess ill go smoke before we start
<skeleton> zetapal, sorry i didnt mean the question to be a burden... just figured that one need not be offended even if one thinks you know less.  you dont have to prove it to them.
<karen> that makes 6   thanks
<NancyL> I smile that on Mar 16th or so the Zetas said Bin Laden was alive and well, and would be heard from soon, and would soon be back to his activities, hardly unfazed by the temporary inconvenience in Afganistan.
<taurusguy> BrianC, April 19 was anniversary of Waco, OKC, Columbine - all kinds of crazy things happened that day
<AndrewP> 8 by my watch!
<Torbj> to be predictable....that means that you can "read me"....good...
<NancyL> BrianC, that's what I thought!  One can always trust the Bush administration.
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<Zetapal> Torbj always has alot of direction and advice,which is fine...I just think that once in a while Torbj might take the other view and realize that there is much yet to be learned from many of you...but always he is in the position of pontificating...this is my attempt at an adjustment...for HIS benefit,not mine
<DraganR> +US annoucment re: banks = preparation for rip of
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<S7L> Torbj: it would help if you directed your statements. Basically, I don't understand much of what you say, but it all sounds basically similar.
<Jurian> haha, trust the bush administration :)
<matt> Sean david Morton claims to have seen Laden in a bunker on the Paki/Afgan border...
<Zetapal> and
<taurusguy> i used to work in Federal govt, and they always issued "terrorist" warnings around April 19
<matt> and he ahd previously thought laden was dead...
<NancyL> My son was telling me that the week before 911, Bush had the Taliban at his place in Texas, dealing to give Enron an oil deal through Afganistan, and they warned him of a possible 911 attack.
<AndrewP> I notice in the latest Video Bin laden has put on weight
<NancyL> This was on a late night talk show, someone who wrote a book about Bush and his scummy and incompetent activities.
<NancyL> I love the man, poor puppet that he is, as you can tell :-)
<Zetapal> I didn't say I was offended,I said his presumption was offensive (having that quality)...is this the way he wishes to come across?
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<AndrewP> Yes he is a lovable Shrub
<canuck> another Steve!..hi pilsdb
<pilsdb> Hi everybody
<skeleton> Nancy- do you see the warning against US banks as an indication that the terrorists are still supported by a european interest that wishes to hurt american interests, like JP Morgan ?
<karen> hi pilsdb
<canuck> Hi Dr. Nick!!
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<jubjub963> heh simpsons
<canuck> cultural icons
<Zetapal> so then, we all still love each other?
<NancyL> Skelton, I have not thought it out much.  I think, on thinking NOW (maybe a slight Zeta input) that this is more something the Bush Admin via intel was warned against, maybe just to play with them, make them worry, etc.
<tizza> an interesting note on the lava activity i saw an article that indicated a new volcano is expected to develop of the SE coast of australia....
<AndrewP> we must!
<NancyL> Like the games kids play, to ring the doorbell of the neighborhood grump, then run into the night as the door opens.
<liai> Hi Clipper :)
<Torbj> give you a warm hug, zetapal!
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<Clipper> Morning :-)
<Zetapal> lol
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<Zetapal> thanks Torbj
<AndrewP> Knick Knock we used to call it
<tizza> assumably connected to the currently extinct "mount gambier" line
<NancyL> Tizza, REALLY.  The crust is showing distress and pressure points already.
<Torbj> thank you to, zetapal1
<NancyL> In addition to the NASA revelation that NA (Oregon) and SA (Chile) had inactive volcanoes coming active.
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<tizza> concidering how little activity we normally have over here i thought it was quite significant in the context of things
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<Spanky> where? canada?
<canuck> Nancy...there is only one queston on the agenda?
<Spanky> has the chat ended?
<NancyL> Tizza, should be quite a year.  
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<liai> Clipper, :) we moving july 5th
<S7L> 4 minutes to the beginning point.
<NancyL> Cannuck, yes, and if we have time, I will collect other Q's, but this may be one with endless followup.
<Clipper> Cool beens :-)
<liai> very :)
<Clipper> beans even
<tizza> i also understand that the land around mt helen is swelling quite a bit with build up of pressure underneith
<Clipper> This direction?
<KyleKushman> i'm in NY...anyone out there feel the quake?
<bdog> Nancy, could the zetas talk about the Laplace transformations? (serious question)
<jubjub963> can you explain with 90% dieoff how the internet will be functional, i mean , that'll be the least of people's concerns
<Spanky> would flying UFOs around the time of the pole shift by aliens motivate humans to blame them?  Will the STS use this as an opportunity?
<obany> spanky: it still has to start, the session
<canuck> quake felt in S. Ontario
<liai> you bet, were going home
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<Zetapal> on Art Bell's show last week he came on talking about the temperature inversion they had experienced in Parhump NV. The temps were running around 100 deg and then they dropped 3o deg in 3 hours....
<NancyL> Tizza, I take all this very seriously especially as Scallion, (a real gifted person re quake predictions) has one out for Cal re an 8.0, northern Cal I think Eureka.
<Clipper> Good for you. I will try to get rid of this snow before you get here :-)
<S7L> Spanky: should be disallowed according to the rules; would correspond to breaking the quarantine.
<NancyL> bdog, what the heck is a Laplace tx?
<Spanky> STS can still answer the STS call
<liai> hehe, doesnt matter, I'll love it all
<karen> that's right on scallion
<S7L> NancyL: laplace transformation probably
<bdog> sorry, not on agenda
<BrianC> Nancy, any Q's on Agenda to do with the little decisions we make in our everyday lives?
<Zetapal> 85mph wind followed...downed power lines...sandblasted cars...homes wind damaged...a real mess
<S7L> oh, sorry, I missed the question.
<S7L> I thought bdog used the literal term 'laplace tx'
<DraganR> US and Canada contein only 5% 0f global population
<Clipper> We'll do lunch some day
<NancyL> Jubjub, with SOME of the 10% left, with Short Wave only, and Zeta assistance between STO groups (and I expect static to the STS hubs)
<karen> Nancy has the other shoe dropped yet?
<tizza> when did scallion call this 8.0 for Cal?
<jubjub963> thanks
<karen> website for scallion  www.matrixinstitute.com
<NancyL> BrianC, no and I'll repost the Agenda now, and start.
<liai> definatly , we will be in wasilla for starts but at least were going to be 2500 miles closer
<obany> some minor rules for during the session: no chatter when the Zetas are giving the answer, wait with asking follow up questions until the question is answered...
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<NancyL> Karen, no shoe, just a shoe hovering!!!  (for real)
<karen> hummmm
<BrianC> bdog: that is an advanced calculus method...
<NancyL> The AGONY of the WAIT & UNCERTAINTIES
<NancyL> 1. can't you provide some PROOF, more than you have, that PX exists or that ZT is right or whatever because
<NancyL> a) I'm having problems convincing folks and
<NancyL> b) I'm anxious and wondering which way I should jump
<NancyL> c) If a pole shift happens as you describe this is a VERY big deal and the time is shorts, etc.
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<NancyL> ZT: In the early days of ZetaTalk, it was a curiosity to most, and for those with personal visions similar to what was being reported, a touchstone.
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<NancyL> ZT: Contactees, who had learned through their visits of the coming cataclysms, were gripped by the correlations.
<NancyL> ZT: Others, serious thinkers and students of prior earth changes, found the net of logic encompassing the holes in human theories.
<NancyL> ZT: Those who knew that ZetaTalk had a factual basis, those with MJ12 connection, were horrified that a message they understood was to be completely suppressed and debunked was getting out.
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<NancyL> ZT: Thus, in the early days, ZetaTalk had friends and enemies, both highly emotional, with the majority of the audience curious.
<NancyL> ZT: Few were willing or thought it necessary to make major changes in their lives, given that the message had a clear end date of May 15, 2003 or shortly thereafter, and had many predictions leading UP to that date that either would or would not be met.
<NancyL> ZT: The questions flowing into the ZetaTalk Question Queue in the early days revolved around human nature, existing UFOlogy legends, with the minority revolving around the possibility of a pole shift and life afterwards.
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<NancyL> ZT: Nancy, today, still gets requests that encompassed the preponderance of the Question Queue in the early days of ZetaTalk, 1995 and on, but the weight of the requests for Zeta input now surround the pole shift and life afterwards issue.
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<Thunderoc> Is the sesion on  today?
<Clipper> Yes, stand by
<obany> yes, started some 7 minuts ago..
<Thunderoc> ok :o)
<NancyL> ZT: Given that the final year could see changes that would REQUIRE the audience to act, many are now looking for certainty.  What types of issues are envisioned, that the Question Queue is not being hammered with requests for sighs that would satisfy CERETAINTY?
<oldsoul> Nancy, is it true that the only real safe places in North America are inland, Both the East and West Coasts will be flooded
<NancyL> ZT: 1. Earthquakes could devastate areas, beyond what the insurance companies could compensate for, requiring decisions on the spot as to relocation orlife changes.
<S7L> oldsoul: well covered by existing zetatalk. see ocean sloshing on the poleshift section.
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<NancyL> ZT: 2. Storms, clusters of tornadoes or mega-hurricanes would likewise wipe out more than a suburb or small town, but whole cities, creating a similar instant need for live change decision.
<NancyL> ZT: 3. Rising seas, and erratic tides, could make the coastlines a risky place to live, to say nothing of wiping out commercial or residential establishments along the coasts, likewise requiring a decision on a life change.
<KeyBoardz> Would PX have played a larger factor in today's 5.5 quake than the planetary alignment?
<NancyL> ZT: 4. The deepening worldwide economic depression, called now only a recession, will increasingly cause families to find themselves without hope in their home area, with decision time once again on the table.
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<NancyL> ZT: 5. Toward the end of 2002, as the inbound planet can no longer be denied by any but NASA and the major media, talked about by almost every other element spreading news, those aware of the coming shift, if only in theory, will feel anxious even if secure otherwise.
<NancyL> ZT: 6. When the economic crash predicted to occur when the tenuous banking system and Stock Market, based on false values, crumbles, will create a need in the otherwise comfortable to made changes, and once again they will be face with choices that include or NOT the pole shift possibility.
<NancyL> ZT: Thus, many cast about for CERTAINTY, to assist them in their decisions, which are of great import in their lives.
<NancyL> ZT: Who can they look to, for answers?
<NancyL> ZT: 1. The church, which preaches Armaghedon, but does not give a date, and states that clinging to the doctrin and being one of the faithful will save the faithful in a rapture.  However, even firm believers feel nervous about this, though they admit this little.
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<NancyL> ZT: 2. The governments, which will become increasingly tight lipped as this year passes, doors shut, no comment, and can be expected only to follow their current line of revealation, which is close to nil.
<NancyL> ZT: 3. Scientists, who argue among themselves in any case, and deal with contradictions to the current theory by shouting the contradiction DOWN and refusing to put the contradicting parts together.
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<NancyL> ZT: If they cannot resolve the arguments about Global Warming, they can hardly be expected to resolve, in 2002, the arguments pro and con a possible pole shift.
<NancyL> ZT: 4. Major Media, which may surprise mankind in coming forth with real documentaries and expose' that would lead the common man to at least CONSIDER the possibilities, in the context of discussing "mysteries" or "possibilities" and having talk shows.  
<NancyL> ZT: But in that major media are owned by few, and tightly controlled in the main, this can turn either way, occurring or NOT, depending upon human motives and decisions, being in the hands of man.
<NancyL> Thus, there is only one source of stunningly accurate predictions related to the current changes - ZetaTalk.  
<NancyL> ZT: Having predicted the current weather changes, the current increase in volcanism and earthquakes, the current economic and crop shortage problems, to say nothing of the LOCATION of the inbound planet - ZetaTalk stays out as a source of CERTAINTY, or so it is hoped.
<NancyL> ZT: Thus, when seeking certainty, the anxious hammer at Nancy, as the only source listening and responding.
<NancyL> ZT: Can she provide more certainty than she is doing today?  No, as the factors in place from the beginning of ZetaTalk are still there today.
<NancyL> ZT: 1. We, as the source of this information, can only respond to questions considered to be The Call, and cannot for instance give warnings of coming storms or quakes, though we can address IN GENERAL the likely earth changes.
<NancyL> ZT: To do otherwise, as we have explained, is to interfer with free will of man, which the Rule of Non-Interference limits.
<NancyL> ZT: The pole shift, and all change leading up to it, are considered a normal terrestrial occurence not unlike tornadoes or cancer or droughts.  YOU, as mankind, are to help each other, learn how to do so, during these tribulations.
<NancyL> ZT: 2. We, and Nancy, cannot force the governments of the world to issue forth information, or force those thinking just of themselves to suddenly become caring.  
<NancyL> ZT: If you don't like the current level of truthfulness from your governments or scientists, then address your frustration to THEM, not ourselves or Nancy.
<NancyL> ZT: 3. Nancy is working to the extent an aging woman, of retirement age and with many health problems not even considered by her audience, without funds, without physical assistance, and simply CANNOT become mama to the anxious world!
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<NancyL> ZT: Few of those hammering on her for certainty, or to do MORE, would deal with her situation for an instant.
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<NancyL> ZT: Beyond the unreasonablness of their demands, there is the physical impossibility of her doing MORE.
<NancyL> ZT: Thus, the issue falls to the audience, what THEY must do for themSELVES.
<NancyL> End ZT Followup (this is long so I'm breaking but we will continue after followup period).
<Torbj> Argentina is closing their bankingsystem´s now....will there be a "soon follover"...
<NancyL> Torbj, all banking systems, and markets, will fail falling to 25% of their current worth, per the Z's.
<BrianC> ... An audience consisting of 73 people at this moment.
<matt> Is a financial crash likey this year or near thepassage?
<NancyL> I suspect Argentina is just the leading edge, and won't get back up.
<karen> can Nancy accepts help from volunteers wishing to help her even financially?
<Thunderoc> If we==individuals, were to give the call allowing 'interferance'...would the STS's also then have that 'right' or opportunity to 'interfere..will those STS aliens be 'out and about' during the shift and after?  ?
<NancyL> BrianC, not everyone joins the chat, many read after :-)
<S7L> Thunderoc: it should depend on the nature of the call.
<skeleton> what will be the straw to break the camels back, in hiding the crash, if the companies and governments are already so well practiced inb the art of deception ?
<NancyL> Karen, if you send me $ it can be considered a loan, but don't count on repayment.
<Torbj> the dollar is "skyhighh" in that country now....
<karen> It would be donated
<NancyL> I had $2.36 in my account prior to last paycheck, and this is NORMAL, and for those saying to run up the charge cards, I did that already two years ago and they are maxed.
<RobH> me too :)
<tizza> shit nancy...you sound just like us:):)
<HBO> People seeking assurance of earth changes should look at the postings on IQx's site, where there are many articles of things occuring around the world, including volcanic activity, himalayan lakes swelling, African magma rift separating continent, etc., etc.
<NancyL> Thunder, yes, STS answer The Call, now and after the shift, so be wary of WHO you call!  
<karen> I am volunteering to help you in any way I can
<NancyL> Selfish call gets an STS response!
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<NancyL> Tizza, one thing I can say, I'm walking the talk :-)
<tizza> heh
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<Torbj> i wonder where the dollar is going to be "skyhigh" next...
<RobH> what is a likely time frame to realistically look at for those who are willing NOW to chage in lifestyle but cannot due to lack of so called 'certainty'?? 6months, or just the few weeks priior?
<KyleKushman> nancy..if u set up a PO Box i'd be glad to send you some cash to get by...without you i'd be lost like most people in this world
<NancyL> OK, going to the 2nd part of Q...
<S7L> HBO: I should note thought that not every volcanic, weather, earthquake, etc. event can be considered evidence. It does seem like earthquake activity has been high but 2002 has been a very quiet year earthquake-wise, nothing like 2001, according to my very minor research on this, for instance
<NancyL> Kyle and Karen, check the Books/Video link on ZT home page, no secret where I live.
<KyleKushman> coo
<NancyL> 2. I'm anxious so I want to ask
<KyleKushman> done deal
<NancyL> a) Are you sure that my location will be flooded during the hour of the shift?  Did you mean what you said?
<NancyL> b) I know you're busy but I really need to know if I'm STO and will be saved during the shift.  I know you said no personal counseling, but this is IMPORTANT TO ME!
<NancyL> c) Ok, I live across the river from X, which you commented upon, but can you comment on our side of the river?  Specifically Y Street, where I live.  Will this be safe?  Can I hide in the basement?
<an> NancyL: you could accept 'grants' without repayment 8)
<jubjub963> this money thing makes me a bit uncomfortable, be careful guys
<matt> agreed
<NancyL> ZT: Anxious people do NOT carefully read what has been written, then are primed by the biological impreative that flight or fight is designed to meet to ACT.
<obany> okay folks hush now... second part of the question is being answered
<NancyL> ZT: Thus, when faced by the actual possibility of a pole shift, tidal waves, crumbled cities, lack of food, and no help from the government, they PANIC.
<NancyL> ZT: Given that ZetaTalk has proven to be the only source of solid and well considered information on WHAT to do, and in this we are including the Troubled Times network of solution sets and the nonprofit which seeks to provide this information to mankind, their action drives like a spear against ZetaTalk and Troubled Times.
<NancyL> ZT: Nancy finds she lately has been grateful for the foresight that developed Troubled Times and the hip-pocket booklet that the nonprofit has developed.
<NancyL> ZT: The over 100 Troubled Times TOPICs and TEAM that have developed allow the anxious to be pointed to reading material SPECIUFIC to their concerns.
<NancyL> ZT: Thus, they have SOMETHING they can do, and the adrenalin that flight or fight has dictated is dissipated into purposeful activity.
<NancyL> ZT: Will this trend diminish, or change, going into the shift?
<NancyL> ZT: It will only increase, until e-mail queues sorting out the REAL questions from those seeking information readily available, if only one would take a web site click or two, may be necessary.
<NancyL> ZT: In time, Internet service will become disrupted to the point where mail is not necessarily delivered and bounced only because of delays, and web site are inaccessible to many due to satellite down time.
<NancyL> ZT: Thus, an important support step for those wanting to help is to create mirror sites, of that information the ZetaTalk and Troubled Times sites offer.
<NancyL> ZT: Many mirror sites already exist, in point of fact, for instance where translated material has been made available within countries speaking the language.
<NancyL> ZT: But it is a bit late, when the satellites start malfunctioning, to seek to set this up!
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<NancyL> ZT: In that acting as a traffic cop, directing the anxious to this or that information, could be done by MANYindividuals, we also recomment that this be structures before the flood.
<NancyL> End ZT Followup?
<NancyL> Don't everyone talk at once :-)
<Torbj> this sounds like trafficing within the specific country....
<canuck> how about a tt-help page specifically for questions?
<Torbj> whwe you liveand act...
<kirk> is there a forum?
<Clipper> Interesting
<jubjub963> somebody should set up a ubb forum + website , the yahoo forums kinda suck
<NancyL> Canuck, I've had suggestions for more FAQ and all manner, but the fact is that they would only have to take 2-3 clicks from ZT home page to get to the Hub of TT, and they don't DO this!
<NancyL> They don't even take the 1st click, to the TT home page!
<Zetapal> yup
<Samsara2003> How soon before the shift will satellite failure become obvious to everyone?
<RobH> there is the tt channel here on irc, that may be a start?? although not mainly accesible to all
<NancyL> They don't even READ the Safe Locations descriptions for their country and state and city that already exist!
<BrianC> How big is the Zeta-Talk web page?  How many Megs I meen.
<kirk> i think the tt link should be explained and clearer
<canuck> how about more prominently.."for HELP..Go HERE"?
<MadMax> the TT link should be more prominent and there should be an explanation of what is found there
<NancyL> ZT: They read one page, not all, and then ask "did you really mean this?"!!!
<Torbj> first your cellphone...then your satelite tellevission
<NancyL> Kirk, TT has mailling lists for discussion, but the anxious are not interested, they want ANSWERS NOW!!!
<obany> Besides the web of course, there are also other ways to bring out the message.  So besides talking to eachter in real life.. wich other ways will there be in the time of the satellite failures and so ?
<RobH> brian - its about 30 megs or so with troubled times
<S7L> BrianC: a mirror is 100 MB currently.
<KyleKushman> whats goin to stop those in power from just keeping the same systems in place and making sure the little guy is kept oppressed
<fdsa564> when and why will satilites fail
<Jurian> yeah, that's what I thought
<NancyL> Samsara, this depends but I gather (input from Zetas here) in about 4 months we may see increasing problems.
<BrianC> ok, thanks.
<KyleKushman> post-shift i mean
<HBO> Nancy: I've searched the TT Health section but don't find any suggestions for medical conditions that require pharmaceutical medicines to sustain life.  Since drug stores won't be open, any suggestions?
<NancyL> IRC, I think, is a GOOD way to go!  Old techonolgy, easy to get, and maybe MORE than Sundays only!
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<NancyL> BrianC, the whole ZT/TT web site is between 50-100 MB, not huge.
<Jurian> the troubled times channel is ALWAYS open!!
<obany> the #Troubled_Times channel is open every day
<canuck> HBO have you tried herbalists sites?
<Jurian> feel free to pop in at any time :-)
<RobH> yes and its a reliable network with many points to route through, very fault tolerant
<NancyL> Canuck, if I had to put a new entry into my menu, on ZT home page, HELP! would be it :-).  Then they get to an IRC channel where someone else talks to them :-)
<Mary> HBO:  we're just out of luck! unless a natural product is available. In my case it isn't.
<HBO> canuck: yes, but insulin for a dead pacreas isn't among them
<Clipper> Research now
<tizza> Jurian : i do but never seems to be anyone there
<Jurian> Hmm, never seen you in there
<canuck> Edgar Cayce said use JErusalem artichokes for diabetes
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<Torbj> HBO....be glad the pharmacepticals will not funktion.......if you live thrue this...and you will....you will not need it
<NancyL> HBO, yes, those really needing drugs, like insulin, to LIVE, will die.  However, type 2 diabetis may improve when we starve, from what I read :-)
<tizza> jurian : #troubledtimes is right yes?
<Jurian> no, #troubled_times
<RobH> those of us familiar with ZT who have read it over should spend more time in tt channel helping and answering questions  ...
<obany> What more can be done, besides putting up mirrors, as there will be a time that even those mirrors could stop working?
<NancyL> Jurian, I didn't know that!  24 by 7?  Are we giving this prominance enough?
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<tizza> ah!!! ok that would be why!
<BrianC> There is indeed other creative ways we could get the word out.
<NancyL> Should we be pointing to this more up front?
<Zetapal> people have to do their own homework even if they clamour for a savior or someone to serve them, I don't know what else can be done to save people from their own conditioning,the signs of control have been with us for years but people are maleable and go along, that can't be helped
<Jurian> NancyL: its open 24/7, and it wouldn't hurt if people were told this :-)
<canuck> Nancy, were you kidding when you said you  could add HELP link?  I think it's a good idea!
<obany> Jurian: i agree with that ...
<NancyL> Maybe we need caretakers for the TT channel, volunteers so SOMEONE is sitting there at all times?
<Jurian> there are usually a few people there
<NancyL> You know, one can knit or read or write letters or whatever WHILE waiting for someone to arrive and say "hello?"
<RobH> thats what i was thinking a schedule of some sort to help with the channel maybe?
<jubjub963> is there a faq, there really should be
<RedD2go> but they have to be "alive" too ;)
<jubjub963> for newbies
<Jurian> in any case, the robots are there so it is never really deserted :)
<obany> Jurian: but they don't say a word :)
<NancyL> Whose going to volunteer to coordinate the caretakers/waiting for newcomers list?  Times and dates or whatever?
<Jurian> well, no :)
<NancyL> (not me, I've got too much already)
<karen> I will volunteer
<BrianC> Good idea Nancy, someone who has read zeta-talk.
<karen> what qualifies
<BrianC> But how are you going to tell who knows what??
<NancyL> Canuak, I'd point to the IRC channel!  If it were staffed, then it's a GO!  Great idea!
<S7L> karen: a friendly attitude :) there are no real qualifications, I hazard.
<karen> caretaker  not coordinator
<NancyL> Or, we could say, someone will be guaranteed to be there from x to x times, etc.  so they would come back if no one there!
<canuck> let's let people volunteer...if they don't kfnow the answers now, they will after they've looked it up for others
<BrianC> You got another volunteer!
<RobH> i for one will be in there when i can at night, once can just leave the window open and see who shows up....
<Mary> People could post on social and watch when they will be there.
<NancyL> Gerard, they say "hello" when they arrive, do they not?  We can actually tell them they SHOULD, in the HELP! link.
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<Clipper> Social only please
<S7L> there is a high chance of meeting someone at least. After all, there is nearly always someone else when I happen to be around.
<RobH> thats a great place to set thiis up i think - tt lists
<Thunderoc> also self help serch engines more prominant of the site..also bgger tying in links on the left side of home page..(unlegable almost to webtv,interactive rogers etc..
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<NancyL> Karen, can you give an e-mail addy for folks to contact if they want to vounteer?  Other than those here at the chat.  
<canuck> should be linked off tt-lists as well as Zetatalk
<NancyL> Many read the chat later, and are very solid folk.
<karen> Yes  karma45@ee.net
<BrianC> But really, answers to specific questions can usually be found using the search link from Zeta-Talk.
<Jurian> there is almost always someone during european day-time.. could use some americans and australians tho :-)
<obany> Nancy: you mean in the channel is that what you mean?
<NancyL> I find that 95% of the panic is quickly settled by pointing to existing TOPICs in TT or where the Safe Location TOPIC is in Info.
<obany> Jurian: indeed...
<Clipper> See ..... americans are usefull :-)
<NancyL> They they go off and read!  
<S7L> nah, those australians are boring. I think we want more input from outer space.
<canuck> Jurian...will Canadians do?
<Jurian> sure!! :)
<canuck> :-))
<NancyL> The TOPICs are actually very pointed in here's how this will help during hte shift of afterwards.
<Torbj> This is STO!
<KeyBoardz> <---canuck
<Jurian> I was just pointing in very general directions :p
<Thunderoc> <~also canuck
<pilsdb> ditto
<canuck> Hi Keyboardz..where from?
<KeyBoardz> T.O.
<NancyL> BrianC, you'd be amazed, they don't even SEE the "Search" link, it appears, just the "Contact Nancy" link.
<canuck> NO SH**  Hamilton
<canuck> Nancy, I htink that is their panic doing that
<obany> That the troubled times channel will be more used, it's there to be used for chatting, to answer questions etc.  Time is closing up, and it's a good place for it the channel that is
<canuck> If they had a large, flashing HELP AVAILABLE button....they'd go there
<RedD2go> we all want to be spoon feed... thinking takes energy and work
<oldsoul> <--- another canuck
<NancyL> Gerard, yes, if we direct folks via a HELP! button in the ZT menu and TT hub, we should have a page with simple IRC instructions, including please say "hello" when entering the room so someone knows an arrival has arrived.
<canuck> Canada rocks!!!
<S7L> canuck: a place that rocks during the pole shift might not be one of the nicest places to be.
<Torbj> that´s true red
<tizza> S7L : were you looking for a bite there?? :)
<Thunderoc> is there any formal coordinbation going on for survival groups?
<S7L> tizza: a bite where?
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<NancyL> I used to see (and still think the nonprofit Sun server may do this) such chats ongoing, per TEAM, or interest area, very much used toward the end.
<tizza> aussies borinbg :):)
<NancyL> Brainstorming problems, relaying information to newcomers, whatever.
<canuck> Canadians can roll pretty well too :-)
<S7L> oh, just my sarcasm. I mean, why go all the way through the globe, so much rock in between and all that. Why not go upwards instead?
<Jurian> lol
<NancyL> Canuck, you should have said "Canada IS a rock!"
<KeyBoardz> I wonder if today's 5.5 quake (felt here in Toronto) was caused more by PX or the planetary alignment?
<Jurian> hahaha
<Torbj> when the spoon is not coming in the time we escpect....we get anxious
<worslip> <-- another canuck (toronto) ;-]
<RobH> 4 months is not a long time maybe we should start a mirror network many people like me have a cable modem or dsl that can quickly be set up to be a server with limited bandwith...should discuss this more on the tt lists maybe??
<canuck> tht's true, big parts of it anyway.
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<canuck> some Canadians here don't know about tt-canada??
<oldsoul> Any fello canucks from Saskatchewan
<obany> a hello could help, as some just join withouth saying a thing. As even when you see the join it doesn't mean that someone would be actualy saying something..
<Clipper> Thunderroc: http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam152.htm
<NancyL> KeyBoard, have you noticed how much adjustments are being made already?  Oregon and Chilli inactive volcanoes heating up, and African Rift pulling apart, and Black Water from pulling apart in the Carribean, etc.?
<Jurian> heh, if we do setup a mirror network, I think it'd be easiest if people would just download bzip2'd copies of the entire site, instead of mirroring it every time, saves shitloads of bandwidth
<S7L> and time.
<Jurian> yeah
<Thunderoc> thank you Clipper! :o)
<canuck> Jurian, that is greek to me..but I'm sure others understand?
<Clipper> Welcome:-)
<NancyL> Jurian, yes, where could we post this kind of info?  
<S7L> most clients for mirroring are single-threaded and download files sequentially
<S7L> ugh.
<Torbj> oldsoulö
<NancyL> Well, its been an hour and I'm going to go.
<RobH> right tt has a section on mirroring ive seen
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<S7L> (which is good considering the poor bandwidth limitations of the host but using 2 threads, or some event-driven downloading would certainly improve things)
<NancyL> Bye bye and THANKS for all your good ideas!  
<oldsoul> yes Torbj
<Torbj> YES had a song titled that town
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<karen> sorry I have an emergency  please email me further details about what we talked about
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<Jurian> bzip2 is a compression algorithm, normally, the site is about 100 MB, bzip2'd, it would probably be something like 10 MB or less :)
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<SWB> Thanks NancyL
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<S7L> Jurian: I will measure
<Torbj> cant spell it
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<canuck> Some great ideas from this session
<Jurian> so will I, as soon as this wget session is done :P
<BrianC> Jurian: WOW that's some compression!
<S7L> it will take a while...
<KeyBoardz> Sitchin will be guesting on tonight's Dreamland, it should be interesting what he says about PX
<Jurian> bzip2 is cool :p
* S7L 's machine is a 1.4 GHz Athlon but bzip2 is expensive
<Jurian> and seeing as html is just plain text, its highly compressable
<BrianC> Thanks for the reminder KeyBoardz.
<RedD2go> Hey oldsoul... Edmonton area here
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<KeyBoardz> canuck: you can here Sitchin on AM610 out of St. Catharines at 9pm
<Mary> What and where is Dreamland?
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<Jurian> dreamland? isn't that area 51?
<KeyBoardz> www.unknowncountry.com ... you can get it streamed live at KLIF
<Clipper> Hehehe
<obany> just a reminder that there is the #troubled_times channel
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<oldsoul> RedD2o  Regina here
* S7L bets for ~ 35 MB final size
<Jurian> I don't know how many images there are in it
<obany> Jurian: well a radio show in this case hosted by W. Strieber
<Jurian> ah :)
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<Mary> Thanks, I'll look for it.
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<RobH> there is a section there they give links for webcopier and stuff like that maybe the link for bzip2 or just zip schold be there on that page
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<n>    Nothing about the "crop-circle apples" , maybe a next time !!!
<Jurian> I'm not sure windows tools deal well with bzip2
<S7L> final result size: 29328164, in human-readable terms ~ 28.5 MB I guess
<KyleKushman> happy 4-20 all
<Jurian> heh, less than a third :)
<RobH> http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo042.htm - access section of TT
<obany> n: because it's not important enough ... or do you think it is ?
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<BrianC> Lets stay and talk people, ... time is short.
<S7L> I was in fact a little surprised. I'd have expected a little less efficient compression.
<obany> but then still some mirrors are a good idea.. the zipped copies also might be
<Clipper> Yep, 4:20:-)
<obany> one can talk over here and on #troubled_times of course.. that channel is open 24/7
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<KeyBoardz> canuck: Did you feel the quake this morning?
<Red> s7l unzipped over 100mb?
<S7L> 107 MB to be more exact.
<Jurian> quite bit :)
<KyleKushman> i'm on Long Island and I have friends who felt it
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<canuck> Keyboardz..no i didn't, kind of disappointed
<BrianC> All we need is a place for people to download it from.  Where will this be?
<canuck> btw thanx for info. on radio..will try to catch it
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<S7L> I wonder if increasing the sorted block size would improve the compression somewhat
<Torbj> it will not be a problem for anyone with a wbsite to bring the zipped copy of zetatalk yo their webside...nomatter the content of it
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<Jurian> Torbj: well, size limits, and bandwidth/traffic limits might be a problem :p
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<Torbj> it cant be many megs...just text?
<Jurian> 109 MB
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<S7L> Torbj: zetatalk is worth more than bible
<KeyBoardz> canuck: you're welcome, we go driving every Saturday listening to Whitley
<BrianC> Even if people could just download it to there computers, that would be good
<S7L> you get the whole bible in much less
<Jurian> remember there's a load of translations!! :)
<Jurian> each taking up quite a bit of space
<S7L> it is true though. it's only because of the translations that it is
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<S7L> otherwise it would probably lose. And TT is largish also.
<Jurian> yeah, tt is quite big
<Torbj> you dont need to translate...just put the englich version up'
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<Clipper> Must take wife to work, gotta run.
<Torbj> bad englichpersons like me understand....
<S7L> well nancy has arranged this zetatalk a little stupidly. The hierarchy is a mess, so it's not completely trivial to only pick the english version
<KeyBoardz> I've read that Sitchin may feel 2003 is likey but has been warned to not get too specific...
<S7L> however, it's relatively easy to exclude the greatest languages
<Clipper> Liai: email me with details :-)
<BrianC> What sort of things could we do in our own communities to bring awareness?
<canuck> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-canada/
<liai> ko :)
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<canuck> for Canadians who want to talk to other Canadians
<liai> or maybe I'll write on tt-ak..
<Torbj> but if you want it spread and not ...like the bible..."revritten"....unconssiousinaly or not...then put it up as it is...in english
<liai> peace everyone :)
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<obany> brianc: i think talking to people etc, mouth to mouth
<S7L> Torbj: I'd rather be convinced of the validity of the zetatalk to a higher degree first.
<canuck> Brian, joyousheart wants to put on a workshop at a library in Niag. peninsula
<canuck> information workshop
<canuck> to spread the word
<S7L> having a real good picture of the planet would help.
<KeyBoardz> I've chatted to a few at work and been surprised how well received this PX information is
<BrianC> I'm looking for some creative ways.  :-)  That's a great idea canuck.
<canuck> Really, Keyboardz..most look at me as if I'm nuts!
<S7L> everything suggestive evidence aside, I want the hard facts to also match.
<Torbj> but when you have a picture of the planet...then you could put up the english version!
<canuck> Of course, I've always been a little eccentric!
<BrianC> I have talked to my local convenience store guy.  
<S7L> Torbj: perhaps. Perhaps not. I can deploy 50 % of zetatalk in a whim if I want to.
<canuck> Brian..she could use help, would probably also help elsewhre in returen
<KeyBoardz> canuck: I've been lending books for a while at work, books like Rule by Secrecy -Jim Marrs, Tutankhamum Prophecies... so they know I've done some research..
<Torbj> i get your message....dont do anything against your feeling....*smile*
<S7L> but then I run over quota on my unix account.
<Jurian> hehe
<canuck> I also have shown books, Sitchin video....get strange looks, and "no thanks"
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<KeyBoardz> I've mentioned tonight's Sitchin on Dreamland to many at work
<S7L> Anyway I guess I'll get an adsl before long, which can serve as a modest server. However, I seriously think you people overestimate the need for mirrors.
<S7L> I mirror zetatalk also though. I don't really know why.
<BrianC> Yes, the ones that look at you strange will at least know who to go to.
<canuck> There's quite a few of us in s. Ontario...maybe we should all put on a few workshops..support each other.
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<Jurian> I mirror it as well, just as a backup :)
<canuck> what do you think Keyboardz?
<Torbj> you already mirror it...?
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<KeyBoardz> I look at it as 'mention it atleast once' when strange earthchanges happen, they'll remember where to ask for more info
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<Jurian> well, and to test my search scripts on it :)
<Jurian> nice big pile of data, hehe
<canuck> and there was someone else from T.O. here..?
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<Red> has anybody checked into the red cross?  They have MASH type hospitals stored all oveer Canada and likely the world
<KeyBoardz> canuck: I think that's a good idea
<canuck> Red...Red cross for what?
<Red> Red Cross for location of supplise and emergency centre locations...  we aren't all going to be able to head for the hills...
<Torbj> red cross....that´s a funny loggo to use.....
<canuck> KeyBoardz, something to think about..who was the other person from t.O?
<canuck> red, true, but don't you think there'd be alot of competitieon?
<BrianC> KeyBoardz: I used to live in T.O.
<KeyBoardz> canuck: Thunderoc
<Red> for sure but they will need ppl able to manage the centres and help out
<KeyBoardz> I'm moving north, maybe to Newmarket or Keswick
<canuck> Troc is in B.C. ..just looked back...worslip, but s/he's gone
<BrianC> People need to become aware so we can all start moving in the right direction together.
<KeyBoardz> I wouldn't want to be in Toronto during a crisis
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<canuck> KB, do you think Newmarket or Keswick is far enough north?
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