Session Start: Sat May 11 12:43:11 2002
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*** Topic is 'next session today Sat may 11, 2002, 22:00 UTC/GMT : more info http://www.zetatalk.com/index/z01.htm'
*** Set by obany on Sat May 11 09:59:42
-IQx- Welcome to ZetaTalk - http://www.zetatalk.com - Enjoy Your Stay
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<HiItsMe> hello guys
<HiItsMe> is Nancy coming here tonight to this room?
<obany> yes
* HiItsMe smiles
* sirgrim readin the bible
<samsara2003> Anyone think that before the passage we might able see the Annuniki on the suface of Nibiru through a telescope on the last days?
<sirgrim> 5   Then the angel took the censer and filled it with fire from the altar and threw it on the earth; and there were peals of thunder, voices, flashes of lightning, and an earthquake.
<sirgrim> 6   Now the seven angels who had the seven trumpets made ready to blow them.
<sirgrim> 7   The first angel blew his trumpet, and there followed hail and fire, mixed with blood, which fell on the earth; and a third of the earth was burnt up, and a third of the trees were burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
<sirgrim> 8   The second angel blew his trumpet, and something like a great mountain, burning with fire, was thrown into the sea;
<sirgrim> 9   and a third of the sea became blood, a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.
<sirgrim> 10   The third angel blew his trumpet, and a great star fell from heaven, blazing like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the fountains of water.
<sirgrim> 11   The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died of the water, because it was made bitter.
<samsara2003> Anyone think that before the passage we might able see the Annuniki on the suface of Nibiru through a telescope on the last days?
<HiItsMe> no
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<HiItsMe> hi nosafety
<HiItsMe> hi Lovestarr
<HiItsMe> waiting for ycnaN as well ;)
<nosafety> an hour yet?
<HiItsMe> 2 hours
<nosafety> k thanks bbl
<HiItsMe> k
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<Lovestarr> hi hiItsMe
<HiItsMe> "i know you"
<HiItsMe> remember me?
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<Lovestarr> no...
<HiItsMe> 1,2,3,4,5,6... lol
<HiItsMe> take a guess
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<cmel> Hi
<obany> it's about 78 minuts before the session will start.. so some minor rules... no chatter or asking when the question is being answered.. wait untill follow up questions is said.. that's about it. And no irrelevant questions
<cmel> Yeah well still ... hi
<cmel> ;-)
<sevensevenseven> lol hi
<obany> hi chmel
* sevensevenseven smacks obany with a light saber for ignoring cmel
<cmel> Hi everybody
<cmel> ;-)
* sevensevenseven sings somer more....
* sevensevenseven *
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<cmel> sorry sevensevenseven I didn't mean to blow you off
<sevensevenseven> chill
<cmel> ok
<cmel> ;-)
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<cmel> Just a sec
<Andeomon> sec over
<cmel> ok ... sec over .... SSS
* obany brb
<Andeomon> !
<Andeomon> SSS???
<cmel> I'm back ;-) Andeomon
<Andeomon> Good ! GREAT ! WONDERFUL ! so what..... ?
<cmel> SSSSSMMMMIIIILLLLLEEEEE
* Andeomon smiles from ear to ear
<cmel> how do you do that ?
<Andeomon> i just take my lips and i smile with them
<cmel> purple text
<Andeomon> humans do this......
<Andeomon> oh! that ! !
<Andeomon> just type /me doing something
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<cmel> oh ok trying
* cmel smiles from ass to ear
<cmel> he he
* cmel laughs all over his face
* Andeomon blows up
<Andeomon> oh hello
* cmel sends a message to Andeomon HI
* cmel thanks for tutoring me ?
* Andeomon yeah sure but you dont have to write EVERYTHING in pink now ....
* Andeomon lol
<cmel> ok
* Andeomon cos that would be dum
<Andeomon> hehe
<cmel> So where are you from ?
<cmel> Andeomon
<Andeomon> Cant you whois me?
<Andeomon> oh n/m
<cmel> sorry
<Andeomon> im from Europe :)
<cmel> so Am I
<S7L> norway, I think.
* S7L is remembering something remotely like that
<cmel> Denmark I think
<Andeomon> :)
<Andeomon> keep guessing, ur near
<cmel> Yep
<cmel> ;-)
<Andeomon> and you?
<Andeomon> asl ?
<cmel> asl ?????
<S7L> age, sex and location.
<S7L> or arithmetic shift to left
<cmel> Grin
<S7L> or, incidentally, my initials
<cmel> 32, m, copenhagen
<cmel> ;-)
<Andeomon> ok im 18/m/Europe
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<cmel> uerope=norway ???
<Andeomon> Europe = Europe
<cmel> europe
<Andeomon> no i move a lot thats all....
<cmel> ok
<cmel> you'r a mover
<Andeomon> by all means, yes!
<cmel> ok
<Andeomon> NancyLtest?
<cmel> that's ok
<cmel> nope
<cmel> well i'm still trying to find out ???
<Andeomon> hahahaha
<cmel> he he
<cmel> how about you ??
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<Andeomon> i know enough about enough
<cmel> oh you do ?? ;-)
<cmel> I don't
<Andeomon> you learn as you live
<cmel> Yeah you're right
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<Andeomon> wow you even change your nickname!!!! wow  !!!!!!!!!!!
<cmeldoesntknow> yeah I'm not that stupid ;-)
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<cmel> wow ..... I did it
<cmel> you're speechless
<Andeomon> no words are needed
<cmel> hi hi
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* Andeomon greets you
<cmel> any words on NancyL´s teaching ?
<obany> chmel: teaching???
* cmel Greets you right back
<Andeomon> just this " (o: "
<cmel> He he
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<Andeomon> will nancy be here or in #troubled_times?
<obany> here
<Andeomon> oh its here
<obany> in #zetatalk
<Andeomon> Ouh Kay
<cmel> yeah .... here
<Andeomon> i think i dont need to be told 3 times
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<cmel> sorry
<obany> in about 1 hour and 15 minuts
<zod> What time is it now in the USA  (Pacific Times ) Please
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<S7L> session begins in ~ 73 mintues
<cmel> ok ... sl
<cmel> s7l
<zod> I need to know what the time in the USA is now  (Pacifc Times)
* S7L thought that answered zod's question
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<zod> Not quite, there is another conference which starts at 12:25  (not related to any of this stuff) I would like to attend. Therefore need to know what time it is now :)
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<cmel> anyone knows the agenda ???
<obany> PST Pacific Standard Time, as UTC-8 hours
<obany> PDT Pacific Daylight Saving Time, as UTC-7 hours
<zod> Thank s, (I think) :(  Now have to do some converstions :(
<cmel> converstions????
<Andeomon> conversions
<zod> er..spelling..conversions
<obany> zod http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/timer.pl
<S7L> speling, you mean?
<cmel> ok .... sorry
<obany> on that page you can find it ..
<cmel> ok
<zod> great.  thanks a bunch
<Parlous> how long do these session usually last ?
<cmel> 1 hour
<Andeomon> good question...
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<cmel> I´ve tried a few times
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<cmel> hi brianc
<obany> ah... brianc=aka cmel :P
<S7L> no, wrong :-)
<cmel> no=o'you´re wrong
* S7L made the same mistake.
<S7L> I thought cmel was a short for 'chmiel'
<cmel> ;-)
<BrianC> hi everybody ;)  the C stands for Chmiel  8-)
<obany> okay okay ...
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<cmel> yeah ... you've thought that before
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<Andeomon> why would you ever think that obany? that its the same guy? He's got different IPs
<cmel> I´m not chmieel
<BrianC> Well I've been wondering about the shoe dropping, and a lot of people seem to have there own thoughts on what it might be.
<sirgrim> i know an iceberg dropped, but that's no shoe
<sirgrim> =X
<Andeomon> shoe?
<cmel> chmiel
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<Cruithne> the shoe dropping is nancy's idea not zeta talk
<Andeomon> ^_^
<obany> cause i was a little confused but now i remember, brianc is from Canada, chmel is from Denmark right
<obany> cruithne: yes... it's what Nancy and others are feeling
<cmel> yeah my ip is quite different
<BrianC> Yes I was thinking about the iceber, Yes it is a gut feeling at first but I think she has probably talked to the zetas about it by now.
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<obany> we will find out more soon i think .... we just have to wait
<BrianC> The "Shoe" is for those of you that don't know, something that will happen soon that will convince us all that planet x is coming next year.
<cmel> I hope you´re not saying she about me ????
<cmel> he he
<Andeomon> how soon?
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<Doodle> hi all
<BrianC> Well at least the people that have read zeta talk.  Soon I guess is a couple of weeks, it was talked about a couple of weeks ago at the end of an irc chat.
<n>  HI
<sirgrim> hi
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* cmel she's saying hi
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* cmel he he
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* cmel Am I the only one online
* Andeomon is always watching you...
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<Cruithne> where is funbot
* cmel ok
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* cmel is waiting
<obany> cruithne: in another channel.. but chanserv is doing it's job
<Andeomon> so what will be Nancy's name in chat? just Nancy?
<sirgrim> nancyl
* cmel NancyL
<Andeomon> oh and what was the NancyLtest thing?
<n>  i did
<Andeomon> what for
* cmel nothing
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<Andeomon> its not protected ..... hmm
<cmel> you're right
<Andeomon> she should protect her nick on Chanserv if she wants to really use it :D
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<cmel> but people knows
<Andeomon> :/
<Andeomon> some people can WhoIs
<n>  Yeah in a certain way we can make look a like's!!
<Andeomon> but many can't
<cmel> Yeah you're right
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<n>  Can I log in with "NancyL" ??????????
<obany> well with the irc client i use (mirc) i see the ident and host when someone joins so
<Andeomon> yeah so do i
<cmel> but I think were enough
<Andeomon> but theres many better then mIRC
<obany> folks, don't start to joke around with her nickname if she wants to join, that's no fun
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<cmel> dammit
<obany> so what if she wants to join at this time and you have her nick then she have to choose another one ... so no joking around
<cmel> ;-(
<n>  So, it can be difficult to sort out the "real chatter"
<BrianC> hehe
<cmel> sorry obany
<Cruithne> anticipation is keeping me waiting
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<samsara2003> I took a look at Revelation and it is frighting how EASY it was to see the effects of a poleshift and passage of Nibiru in this.  It's not even much of stretch.
<samsara2003> This is, of course, all conjecture, but not neccessarily an INCREDIBLE stretch of the imagination.
<samsara2003> >>> = Designated commentary
<samsara2003> Revelation 8:6-8:13
<samsara2003> The Trumpets
<samsara2003> 6Then the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to sound them.
<samsara2003> 7The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down upon the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were bur
<samsara2003> Opps
<samsara2003> Sorry
<n>  hello
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<cmel> hello
<cmel> n
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<Doodle> hi me again
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<obany> it's about 48 minuts before the session will start.. so some minor rules... no chatter or asking when the question is being answered.. wait untill follow up questions is said.. that's about it. And no irrelevant questions
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<Doodle> why so are so few people here?
<Doodle> a person would expect more
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<Doodle> my first time here
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<obany> there will be more folks ... doodle.. the session hasn't started yet usualy more then 60 people 2 weeks ago more then 70
<Doodle> oh
<cmel> just playing around
<Doodle> anyway what's the average age here
<Andeomon> hej jij!
<cmel> 25
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<cmel> ¨?
<obany> more then 60 folks during the session
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<Andeomon> 25.... yeah
<Doodle> and your education
* obany = 31
<matt> at a guess i would say 28
* cmel 32
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<Bob> psssssshhhht!!..glug, glug, glug...ahhhhhh!!!! Nothing better than an ice cold bud light 45 minutes before the session starts!
<matt> nice
<Andeomon> lol
<Bob> :-)
<Doodle> i am almost 20
<BrianC> how do you guys make your words in red?  I am 21.
<matt> bit early for me tho
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<cmel> he he
<obany> bob: no heineken or amstel ;PPP
<Bob> Its noon somewhere!
<matt> lol
<Bob> out of amstel...my choice
<cmel> tuborg
<Bob> :-(
<cmel> ;-)
<obany> tuborg = a danish brand
<cmel> Yep
<Nomis> Someone from Germany here???????
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<obany> not me, i am from a neighbor country, Netherlands
<Bob> Don't think I could get Tuborg around here...
<cmel> Yep ... I understand
<BrianC> I submitted two questions to Nancy,1. "How do we stop procrastinating and start doing",  2.  "How do we help ourselves grow"
<Andeomon> how old is nancy?
<BrianC> 50 something I think
<cmel> I'm proud that you remember
* Andeomon nod
<Doodle> do you people really believe in all she says
<S7L> more, I think, closer to 65 or such
<cmel> Nope
<obany> s7l: younger
<cmel> Doodle
<Doodle> yeah
<S7L> by how much, obany?
<BrianC> I'd love to meet her in person, that would be so awsome.
<cmel> I second you
<Andeomon> me too... hah
<obany> not sure, but in here 50's still, not 65
<Doodle> yeah then perhaps you would know if anything she says is true
<cmel> Brianc
<BrianC> Doodle, there is actually a lot of people here compared to how it was a year ago.
<S7L> maybe we ask her now that she should appear in some quarter of an hour or so?
<BrianC> Yes cmel?
<Doodle> not very much as i see
<Andeomon> Have You Ever Wondered...? . . . why idiot-savants can somehow access parts of the remaining 90% of the brain normal people don't?
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<cmel> You ask ??     .......   BrianC ``????????
<BrianC> I would also like to know how many people have gone to zetatalk, I wonder why she doesn't have a counter.
<obany> brianc: a lot of folks i think daily
<n>  only close encounter???
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<cmel> so do I
<BrianC> hmm nothing cmel... :-P
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<cmel> ¨;-)
<n>  joke!
<Andeomon> obany - whats "a lot"
* cmel IloveU
<BrianC> Another question I have is why the zeta's won't come down and chat with me over a cup of tea.  I wouldn't freek out.
<S7L> what if the zetas used a real nasty carneval mask?
* cmel He he
<BrianC> hehe,  
<Andeomon> what if zetas smelled?
<Andeomon> o h h
<Doodle> has anyone here ever seen a UFO?
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<Andeomon> lol cmel
<obany> brianc: i remember that Nancy said something about that 2 weeks ago or so
<n>  Well , can Nancy arrange some photo's from MJ12??
<Andeomon> Doodle probably yes
<hehe> Ï love you
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<Doodle> i think i saw one once
<Doodle> but am not quite sure
<BrianC> Supposedly a lot of people in China and around that area have seen UFO's, way more common than in America.
<Andeomon> we all see them but we dont notice them every day :)
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<Andeomon> And Siberia
* cmel I love you
* cmel all
<Andeomon> cmel stop loving yourself...... ewww
<Andeomon> oh :)
* Andeomon loves all also
* cmel sorry
<BrianC> Yes I remember she said something,  but I don't remember exactly what it was, nevertheless it wasn't a direct responce.
<Andeomon> hahaha
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<Doodle> so have you heard that a slab has been discovered.
<Andeomon> well thats not nice words i think obany loves to right click then kick people :)
<Andeomon> slab!???
<Doodle> supposed to be 120 million years old
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<cmel> sorry
<Doodle> yeah a relief of a contryside or something
<BrianC> Maybe subconsciously I don't want to see one, but conciously I do!
<obany> about the consciouss contact, from the 13th of April
<obany> (NancyL) Lebrasse, me too, I even asked for this formally and had a hearing and a Zeta advocate, but didn't get my way :-(
<cmel> the zeta's don't want to talk to you
<BrianC> hehehe, well I'm sure the Zeta's have there good reasons.
<BrianC> I am reading about the slab now
<Doodle> here's the adress of the webpage
<Doodle> http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/04/30/28149.html
<mmt> Nancy, I took a picture from a  bright light in the night
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<S7L> mmt: better use a magician to talk to her, she's not on yet
<mmt> when it was underexposed, a head appeared
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<Bailey> thank you doodle
<cmel> yeah right
<Doodle> sure
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<cmel> ;-)
<Doodle> it's really interesting to read
<cmel> so
<mmt> coud this mean something or was it an erroneous interpretation?
<obany> usualy she joins the channel some 15 minuts ahea of the chat
<obany> mmt: she isn't here yet ....
<cmel> you're right
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<CalneCrusader> 30 mins til go yes?
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<Doodle> why hasn't there been any new images of px
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<obany> Hello SteveH
<BrianC> Cuz of Layziness
* cmel jeg elsker dig
<Andeomon> are there any picutres of Nancy online?
<Doodle> yup
<SteveH> hi obany!
<Andeomon> where :)
<S7L> a few small shots. I have seen her on a video clip, also
<Doodle> don't know:)
<obany> how are you doing? SteveH?
<Doodle> but i have seen her
<matt> planetxvideo.com
<Doodle> xfacts.com i think
<S7L> she was explaining that during a pole shift, all human timekeeping goes to hell.
* obany brb
* cmel er der nogle danskere ???
<matt> www.planetxvideo.com
<SteveH> oh, a little hung over today. was my girfriends birthday last night so...
<BrianC> Next time she does a video I'll pay for her hair dresser.  :-)
<matt> lol
<Andeomon> mmmmmkay
<Ace> http://awakening.tts.lt/universe/zetatalk/zetatalk-nancy.htm
<Bailey> pay or pray :o)
<Ace> those are pics of nancy
<SteveH> how are you obany?
<Andeomon> thx
<S7L> oh yes, this contains several shots.
* S7L has seen it before
<cmel> sure they are
<Andeomon> cool!
<matt> is this a family
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<matt> site
<S7L> matt: no, zetatalk is XXX.
<matt> lol
<Okidok> Hi folks
<Bailey> be nice
<Doodle> hello
<matt> i guess i asked for that
<cmel> Oh I'm horny
<cmel>  ;-)))
<matt> i meant a Lieder family site
<S7L> matt: it isn't nancy's family, if that was what you were asking
<matt> k
<Doodle> 41 people as of now
<S7L> this is some russian guy, I understand.
<cmel> 43
<Andeomon> yeah she's 65 at least!
<matt> looks that way
<tizza> guday all !! :):)
<cmel> hi
<matt> the russian guy i mean
<Doodle> yeah you're right
<matt> G'day digger
<cmel> sorry
<tizza> :) ay matt
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<Okidok> anyone want a lyric to get in the rigth mood??
<Andeomon> hi cipher, welcome
<[cipher]> hello
<SteveH> hi Clipper
<Doodle> sure
<Okidok> I see the bad moon arising.
<Okidok> I see trouble on the way.
<Okidok> I see earthquakes and lightnin'.
<Okidok> I see bad times today.
<SteveH> whoops, wrong guy!
<Andeomon> cipher, from the matrix :) ???
<[cipher]> yea !
<Andeomon> cool
<Doodle> nice
<Okidok> Don't go around tonight,
<Okidok> Well, it's bound to take your life,
<Okidok> There's a bad moon on the rise.
<Okidok> I hear hurricanes ablowing.
<Okidok> I know the end is coming soon.
<Okidok> I fear rivers over flowing.
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<Okidok> I hear the voice of rage and ruin.
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<[cipher]> Take Blue Pill or the Red Pill ??
<Okidok> Hope you got your things together.
<Okidok> Hope you are quite prepared to die.
<Okidok> Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
<Okidok> One eye is taken for an eye.
<Andeomon> I took the red one long time ago....
<cmel> Nice  .......   okidok
<Andeomon> like 100s of others :) you know.
<[cipher]> lol
<Doodle> yeah cool
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<S7L> okidok: bah, taht's lousy. ;p
<Zetapal> Bad Moon on the Rise
<matt> lol
<Andeomon> Okidok ... whateva
<Doodle> kind of reminds me of "the passage"
<Okidok> ok bad planeth then
<mmt> obany, isn't Nancy joining today?
<cmel> Bad sun on the rise
<samsara2003> Anyone know the site that is constructing a 3-d computer animation of the poleshift---I lost it...
<cmel> iqx
<Okidok> its a lyric by Creedence
<cmel> .com
<BrianC> I haven't seen those pictures of Nancy before, she looks a little younger,  Where are they taken and who is that guy in the picture?
<cmel> wwwiqx.com
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<S7L> iqx.cjb.net as he spans all newcomers
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<cmel> www.iqx.com
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<BrianC> Okidok, yes whenever I hear that song the same thoughts go through my head.
<Okidok> same too me BrianC
<tizza> there r many lyrics nowdays that say simular things
<cmel> seek and yea shall find
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<Zetapal> has anyone seen that movie KPAX ?
<cmel> nope
<DraganR> Eavning to all
<Okidok> jepp Zetapal,,,
<matt> BrianC: the dates say June 2001 for the site
<cmel> where is that ???
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<SteveH> i've seen KPAX
<Zetapal> remember the seen where the main character corrects the psychologists and says there aren't 9 planets but 10
<cmel> bitch
<matt> still that song was used for Y2K as well...
<matt> tf
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<SteveH> yeah, that part was pretty interesting.
<tizza> morning nancy
<matt> y
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<matt> test
<cmel> hi Nancy
<Okidok> g`day Nancy
<n>  hello
<NancyL> Hello all, just send the Agenda to Gerard and Jurian.  For you early birds, here it is:
* energy_00700 greets Nancy
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<[cipher]> hi Nancy :)
<NancyL> ANTHRAX / SMALL POX
<NancyL> 1.  Why have eleven microbiologists died in the past five months? Sounds like a conspiracy to me.
<NancyL> IMPLANTS
<NancyL> 1. Will you ask the Zeta's about implants by humans. This has been an active stock lately and it is said a whole family is to be implanted on tv this week. The stock is adsx. Where did they get the idea from? Will this be used by sts?
<NancyL> CROP CIRCLES
<NancyL> 1.  Are cropcircles in the main orbit symbols? or chakra symbols or something else?? Has the Zeta's something to say more about it?
<NancyL> 2. The new Mel Gibson movie, a Px message?
<DraganR> Hi Nancy and the others (Zeta gang)
<NancyL> IQx, you here?
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<NancyL> Not away?
<energy_00700> Nancy
<NancyL> Gerard and I were wondering what the URL to the Blake-Radio interview is?  
<energy_00700> How are you
<NancyL> It moved, or maybe no longer hosted there, or whatever.
<samsara2003> Hi Nancy...any chance the Chilbolton thing is on the Agenda?  I've been waiting all week to find this out...
<matt> Interesting that "Bad moon rising" was talked about as being prophetic in regards to Y2K as well.....
<BrianC> hi Nancy
<NancyL> Well, Crop Circles are.  What is the Chilbolton thing?
<Doodle> hello nancy
<Torbj> hello evereyone!"
<samsara2003> The Chilbolton formation - the glyph appearing in the field outside in NH, detailing a face and a response to the radio message
<matt> the blake radio link hasn't worked for weeks
<BrianC> Why don't they make a good crop circle that shows obviously our solar-system and the tenth planet?
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<zod> Last week we talking about plane and train crashes, and a trained crashed in the uk.  Was this due to earth movements I wonder
<NancyL> Oh, that's big time faked.  But, good followup question and yes we'll get to it.
<S7L> brianc: there are some that are remotely alike.
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<samsara2003> good...I figure it was real, damnit!
<samsara2003> lol
<energy_00700> Nancy how do you explain that the poleshift is nowhere near happening in 4th density and above?
<matt> which one though? what about the face at Chilbolton?
<NancyL> You know, legit circles are beautiful, symtrical, no squashed grain, etc. and these fakes looked like they were dont by drunken farmers out looking for the chickens or something.
<matt> no way is the face faked
<obany> NancyL: i mentioned it to iqx
<NancyL> BrianC, good followup, and I'm trying to jot these down.
<BrianC> hehe,  Yes they are pretty beautiful.
<samsara2003> The face was incredible...I find it hard to believe that was fake
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<Doodle> nancy: what do you think of the stone slabs with relief on them which are supposed to be 120 million years old?
<samsara2003> The other glyph...maybe
<obany> about the radio file ...
<matt> yeah
<tizza> doodle : good Q.
<NancyL> Energy, because the Earth and Px (12th) are not in 4th Density yet!
<samsara2003> The stone slabs...>ALSO very good question -
<S7L> samsara2003: by contrast, it's easy to believe that it's fake on grounds that it's so very different from teh crop circle design, which seems to favour symmetry exceedingly
<BrianC> Can you tell us some things that are different in Zeta-Math?  Could they give us a formula or two? Wow that would be cool!
<mmt> Nancy, I took a picture of a light in the sky, when it was underexposed by a passing bus, a head appeared
<energy_00700> oh yeah they are HAHAHA ... we're waiting for ya Nancy ;) they are
<S7L> the basic shape was rectangular, which is almost unheard of in crop circle schemes
<matt> lol
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<NancyL> During the physical transition to 4th, Px will not come over, just most of the Earth, so, no more pole shifts!
<Doodle> here is the adress again     http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/04/30/28149.html
<samsara2003> http://www.therussianissues.com/topics/55/02/04/02/14403.html
<energy_00700> physical transition to 4th? thats an interesting way of looking at it
<samsara2003> Also have that link
<NancyL> Samsara, do OTHER circles have faces?  NEVER!  And the quality was rediculous, nowhere near legit circles.  I about threw up when I saw them.
<matt> ?
<NancyL> Doodle, if we have time, we'll take Q's such as that old map, etc.
<samsara2003> Thought it might have been something new....I still think they're real...
<energy_00700> The crop circles are scientific symbols
<Doodle> ok
<BrianC> Can you tell us anything about Zeta-Math?  Could they give us a formula or two?  Like a solution for all prime numbers or something, would be great! :-)
<matt> obviously not talking about the same thing here
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<NancyL> BrianC, Zetas won't speak math to humans, who are all wet on math.  For instance, we use zero and they don't.
<samsara2003> I'ld like to hear more about Zeta culture too....
<BrianC> I use zero!  Please.  ohhh
<energy_00700> Nancy, how do you explain that the human consciousness which is rising is making the pole-shift even harder?
<Zetapal> crop circles are visual clues for the sub-conscious mind/per z's
<NancyL> No common ground.  They used human math to prove the Moon not being according to Newton, by letting humans DO the math, and then commenting.
<energy_00700> and less possible
<samsara2003> Top 5 Zetan recreational activities...? perhaps...
<samsara2003> hehe
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<matt> lol
<tizza> nancy:i have been wondering lately about the "Maree Man" wether that is also simular to sign ass crop circles?
<Torbj> And the jellyfich is fleeing the big seas
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<samsara2003> How about the Crabs appearing on oceanbeach in San Diego?
<energy_00700> .
<NancyL> Samsara, when we run down on other subjects, then talk about the Zeta culture, but they did that already in the Worlds section.
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<BrianC> Well would they at least start on describing anything, even the most basic simplest thing in there math...They use zero is a good start.
<sirgrim> g'day nancy & zetas
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<NancyL> Energy, that's a stupid wish, that the pole shift won't happen if we WISH it not to. Get real!  Cure your cancer that way, or the starvation in the Sudan!
<matt> sirgrim:whats up with the Blake radio file on WAGD?
<obany> samsara: there is a mention there about zeta schools, entertainment and so
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<n>  Do they have symbols for numbers  like 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ??
<samsara2003> Really?
<samsara2003> I'll take a look...
<NancyL> Tizza, what is the Maree Man?
<tizza> Maree Man was an enormous man carved into the chalky ground in aust. outback seemingly overnight
<NancyL> Samsara, crabs are not in San Diego normally?  They're up the coast, for sure.
<tizza> no one could say how or were it came from
<NancyL> BrianC, why do math lessons?  What is the point?
<BrianC> Math is exciting.
<energy_00700> Nancy your chanelings are wrong in the sense that you are seeing everything above physical as physical. You simplify too much and glorify the "youknowwho" too much...
<BrianC> And maybe there will be some zeta accuracy to go along with it.
<NancyL> Sirgrim :-) The nonprofit will ship that Sun server if you're short on cash that way, you know.
<energy_00700> i wonder if you would understand
<energy_00700> or if anyone would
<tizza> no signs of heavy machinery or anything...this was about a year of 2 ago
<energy_00700> i thought that some serious subjects would be discussed.
<n>  how do they write 1+1=2 ????
<BrianC> It's a natural thing, found in nature and the like, some crop circles are fractals etc.
<NancyL> Tizza, sounds like an Aboriginal thing :-)
<Torbj> like the sunspot activity?
<NancyL> Energy, the ZetaTalk info has an accuracy track record, before you say "wrong" and something else "right", show me the others track record!
<Okidok> some crop circles are in fact sacred geometry
<energy_00700> :) surely
<tizza> Nancy: aboriginal design for sure,but it was miles and miles long,Massive in fact...and it just apeared over night
<BrianC> Imagine the attension you would get if you came up with a solution to some math problems.  Like for Prime numbers or something.
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<energy_00700> time will show you better then i ever could
<energy_00700> i just wanted to see what your energy configuration is ...
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<Zetapal> energy- if you say so then it must be true? does reality adapt to your perceptions or vice versa -
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<NancyL> BrianC, no ZeatTalk Accuracy with math, as the humans make their formulas to equal all the time, plugging in the same factors, and would say Zetas did the same, so no winning that argument.
<Andeomon> Reality is nothing but what we see it , its imagination so yee
<Andeomon> yes*
<Torbj> you are born with it....that "energyconfiguration"
<NancyL> Tizza, I'll add it if we move along today, etc.  Good Q.  Kind of related.
<n>  Can you put a online Zeta language  lesson???????????
<tizza> Nancy:and about 2 months later it was eroded away
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<Andeomon> no no its just seeing what Nancys intentions are thats all, like the resulting force of her matrix on all levels and i see where she is "leaking" ...
<obany> n: uuuh, and for what use, for what purpose...
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<samsara2003> Any talk today, perhaps about the 2nd passage and when that will --- as it will be a little hard to see Nibiru coming back with the Volcanic dust in the skies
<NancyL> N, the Zetas use telepathy to communicate, and their language in any case would mean nothing to you, so what's the point?
<tizza> Nancy : Ta :) it seems related but i just dont follow how it fits in with everything else
<Zetapal> Andeomon - will reality cease to exist when you can no longer see? I think it will continue with or without you
<BrianC> Nancy, I would just like to know a little more about there math.  Another question is how do we help ourselves/others grow.
<Andeomon> Teach us Nancy
<adsf231> do zetas use negative numbers?
<Andeomon> their language
<samsara2003> Zetatalk does mention a 'second set of catalysms'
<samsara2003> Yet nothing else is written about it
<samsara2003> Dates are vague...
<n>  purpose : uhhhh, i do not exactly know
<NancyL> Samsara, no one will notice the 2nd passage, and it will be on the other side of the Sun from us, etc.
<Zetapal> have you seen my reality lately?
<NancyL> OK, going to start with 1st Q:
<NancyL> ANTHRAX / SMALL POX
<NancyL> 1.  Why have eleven microbiologists died in the past five months? Sounds like a conspiracy to me.
<Andeomon> Zetapal , we are part of this reality untill we achieve our own
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<Andeomon> we bend this reality and learn how to make it our own
<Andeomon> untill we accend beyond this universe... like many before
<Andeomon> and make our own game.
<Andeomon> And your reality is grim btw
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<obany> okay folks hush now
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<Zetapal> thanks for setting me straight Andeomon
<NancyL> ZT: After the Attack on American on 911, and the subsequent Anthrax mailings and murmurrings about Small Pox by the US government, a number of scientists whose expertise was in microbiology were killed rather brutally - obvious assassinations.
<obany> no chatter please at this moemnt
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<Andeomon> Nancy, was the 911 attack a conspiracy?
<obany> andeomon: HUSH
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<NancyL> ZT: Unlike the normal elimination of those who might leak information, or provide assistance to the enemy, these deaths were outstanding in their brutality and obvious nature.
<Andeomon> ummm,,, im just following up
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<NancyL> ZT: Some were hacked to death, beaten, thrown off bridges, and almost none dying in a manner that might be termed natural.
<NancyL> ZT: Why the brutality, and who was behind these murders?
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<NancyL> ZT: To understand the reason for the message being given by the assassins, one must understand the background.
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<DavidS> What was the question(pardon...)?
<Andeomon> its just that i dont sense the laws which are so well accepted and pushed ... by her ...
<Andeomon> about 911
<NancyL> ZT: Germ warfare has for many decades been a threat that great powers such as the US and Russia and those power hungry such as Iraq have used.
<Andeomon> and deaths afterwards
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<NancyL> ZT: It reared its head during the Gulf War in that Saddam was suspected of using germ warfare on his own people, the Kurds to the north, and in the south to punish rebellion.
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<NancyL> ZT: It reared its head when it was discovered that Russia had produced more Anthrax than reported and had burried it on an island vulnerable to land contact.
<NancyL> ZT: It reared its head again during the Anthrax attacks following 911, and in the constant mutterings of the Bush Administration on the need for Small Pox vacinations.
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<NancyL> ZT: Who is planning germ warfare, and what is the relationship of these obvious assassinations?
<NancyL> ZT: Massive programs, like the ones in the US done by the CIA, in Russia, and Iraq, require more than labs and secrecy, they require expertise.
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<NancyL> ZT: Scientist are sworn into secrecy, and threatened with death if they divulge whome they have assisted.
<NancyL> ZT: The Gulf War was not ONLY afflicted with germ warfare at the hand of Saddam, it also afflicted the American soldiers at the hand of the then President, George Bush.
<NancyL> ZT: The Gulf War syndrom is not secret, nor is the manner in which the foot soldier was treated by the US Military.
<NancyL> ZT: They were NOT sick, and it was NOT the fault of the Military, until years after proof was well in hand and the public encensed.
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<NancyL> ZT: What was the point of infecting their own soldiers?  They were perfect test subjects, reporting regularly to the clinics in the US which gathered data, and would be unlikely to go elsewhere as their medical care was by the government.
<NancyL> ZT: The illness was not to be fatal as much as debilitating, which it was.
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<NancyL> ZT: Chemtrails likewise are a study in how to make a populace sick, so it cannot demand services and food from its government.
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<NancyL> ZT: In this, the righteous US Government is the hand of evil, and the group in the Bush Administration has blood on their hands.
<NancyL> ZT: But the story does not end there.
<NancyL> ZT: MORE than the handful of micro-biologists who died participated in development of germs combination for illness, debillity, and elimination of an ememy or population.
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<NancyL> ZT: These were the ones who were noted to talk among themselves, on the phone, by mail, even via email, when the Anthrax attacks began.
<NancyL> ZT: In that the CIA, in labs in the ultra-right Utah area, produced the Anthrax that was to bring down Democratic Senators and bring the Senate back into the Republican fold, they were particularly nervous about such leaks.
<Le-Renard--> hi
<Le-Renard--> :)
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<NancyL> ZT: It should be noted that NO ONE has ever been brought to justice for these attacks against the Democratic Senators, even when the Anthrax source was KNOWN.
<Andeomon> hi now hush ... pluto speaks
<NancyL> ZT: Such is the aliance of the Bush Administration.
<NancyL> ZT: Those micro-biologists who were killed, brutally, and in an obvious manner, were to be a warning to those they communicated with that THEY should not feel free to chatter.
<Le-Renard--> Zetas seem to know alot about politics...heh...i wonder if they know about other nations politics as well...like a country where Nancy Leider does not live in...
<NancyL> ZT: Did the CIA reach into Russian and the UK and other countries to assassinate?  Yes, as they are skilled in posturing as simple business people or tourists or family members visiting.
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<NancyL> ZT: Thus, the reason they were killed was indeed because they knew about the programs, the intent, and were likely to talk.
<Andeomon> Le: They say its hard to channel it if she's not from that country ;) USA is the Home of Zetans too so understand it
<obany> lerenard: if you are just her to disrupt like you usualy do, then leave
<obany> now hush
<NancyL> ZT: But it was also as a warning to others to CONTINUE assistance, with a tighly zipped mouth.
<Le-Renard--> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<NancyL> End ZT Followup?
<samsara2003> My god
<CalneCrusader> can you answer le-renards point nancy?
<matt> which one?
<samsara2003> Article on the above assisination:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/printarticle/gam/20020504/UMURDN
<NancyL> Which was?   What about france?  Or what?
<Le-Renard--> :)
<Le-Renard--> well im not french
<Le-Renard--> im ecuadorian
<BrianC> Man those guys are bad.
<NancyL> Going onto Q2 as there is not much followup>
<CalneCrusader> about the zetas only speaking about US politics
<Le-Renard--> can the zetas talk about this little country?
<DuncanC> Nancy:  I've read in Mack's books reports from contactees who not only recieve visions of PS scenario, but warn of plague epidemics, AIDS-like plagues.  To what extent is mil/gov't agencies responsible for this?
<matt> too fast
<nosafety> Yeah, those Zetas sure do hate the US republicans
<Doodle> lol
<samsara2003> Is the recent rise in cases of Autism related to this Government consipracy (allegedy from innoculations) RECENT TIME MAGAZINE ARTICLE
<Le-Renard--> lol
<NancyL> Duncan, quick answer, about 50/50 natural and man made.  AIDS and Ebola will decimate Africa, per the Z's, and this is a human affliction thanks to the CIA etc.
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<NancyL> ZT to Samsara: Autism on the rise is not a manmade affliction nor related.
<Le-Renard--> NancyL: would u please answer my question?
<DuncanC> k...  can you give us any idea as to why more contactees have not come forward as you have? Though they have been warned of coming disasters, etc?
<CalneCrusader> nancy, could you please ask Z's to talk about something other than US internal affairs
<Andeomon> is AIDS manufactured Nancy?
<NancyL> ZT: That this increases is realted to inbreeding, among those with similar propensities.
<samsara2003> That's what I thought...
<Andeomon> Did the CIA aid the 911 attacks?
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<matt> ?
<NancyL> ZT: Obsessive individuals do not feel comfortable among those with high emotions and spontenaity.
<Dimension-Rider> Is M.E. chronic fatigue a man made phenomena?
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<NancyL> ZT: They bond, befriend, and spend time with others who like a regimented life style.
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> Capricorns probably
<NancyL> ZT: Repeatedly intermarrying, this then becomes a dominate gene, and expresses.
<NancyL> End ZT to Samsara.
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<DuncanC> k...  can you give us any idea as to why more contactees have not come forward as you have? Though they have been warned of coming disasters, etc?
<NancyL> Andeomon, AIDS is already in ZT and is natural, just ultilized by the CIA, same with Ebola.
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<Andeomon> ok then :)
<Le-Renard--> umm
<NancyL> Andeo, the Z's have already spoken to 911, re CIA, answer NO.
<samsara2003> How widespread are the Chemtrails that are creating these sicknesses....(entire US, world, which areas)
<Andeomon> and what about CIAs involvemend in 911
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<Andeomon> ok good that just tells me a lot
<NancyL> Duncan, not a related Q.  Going to Q2 on Agenda.
<Le-Renard--> NancyL: Why cant u speak no other than US affairs?
<Dimension-Rider> I heard AIDS came from a lab in Russia
<NancyL> IMPLANTS
<NancyL> 1. Will you ask the Zeta's about implants by humans. This has been an active stock lately and it is said a whole family is to be implanted on tv this week. The stock is adsx. Where did they get the idea from? Will this be used by sts?
<obany> okay folks hush now
<NancyL> ZT: Imagine a government such as the Bush Administration, pondering the coming pole shift.
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> Bushwhacked
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<obany> folks no chatter during the answer please ... it's kinda disturbing
<NancyL> ZT: They are not CERTAIN it will happen as we have defined, but note our other predictions have played out and are wary enough to be stockpiling food stuffs and beefing up the military to use as their personal defense force, or so they hope.
<NancyL> zT: They are wary enough to be pretending, publically, that chemtrails do not exist.
<NancyL> ZT: What might be their plans re the populace at large?
<Torbj> Duncan...Contactees are coming forward big time world wide....Nancy is a contactee with a internetconection.....
<NancyL> ZT: Playing God, as they do in their smoke filled rooms, they divide the populace into desireables and undesireables.
<NancyL> ZT: Those considered desireable are uniformly white, educated, passive in nature, and likely to be dependent upon others and desperate to coorperate.
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<NancyL> ZT: Those considered undesireable are people of color, those whose culture has taught them rebellion, or those prone to disease.
<NancyL> ZT: In that MOST undesireables can be sorted out by color, social security number and past work record, or police record, they are not a concern.  They will simply be excluded from any government sponsored survivor camp.
<NancyL> ZT: But what about disease?  Medical records are priviledged, and few doctors are likely to change this practice over the next year.
<NancyL> ZT: Thus, human implants are NOT to locate those to be saved, but to identify those to be excluded, for medical reasons.
<NancyL> ZT: Those rushing to be implanted are those who need to be quickly identified in a medical emergency.
<NancyL> ZT: Ergo, they have a disease, genetic, or needing medication, or some such.
<NancyL> End ZT Followup?
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<Le-Renard--> NancyL: would u please answer my question? Why dont u talk about ny other than US affairs?
<BrianC> Will this become large scale?
<Cruithne> r the smoke filled rooms from pot smoking
<samsara2003> haha
<Doodle> :)
<DuncanC> lol
<matt> no cause then they would be friendly
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> Implants are science fiction in all but the US
<NancyL> Le-R, US is in a leadership position, worldwide, that's why.
<Le-Renard--> NancyL: Why cant u speak no other than US affairs?
<samsara2003> Will pot grow easily after the poleshift...lol j/k
<Bailey> lol
<NancyL> Can you be more specific as to your question?
<NancyL> BrianC, no, not widespread.
<jubjub963> They do no seriously expect to implant a ton of people in the next year do they Nancy?
<DuncanC> samsara: sadly no, as they need lots of light
<Le-Renard--> NancyL: well, the zetas may know about everywheres affair uh ?
<look_4> nancy, any comments from the Zetas regarding chemtrails appearring in Canada lately?
<jubjub963> it's too late , i assume
<kirk> hemp would be useful tho
<samsara2003> damn
<DuncanC> kirk true
<samsara2003> Won't ask how you know that...
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<NancyL> Le-R, what is YOUR QUESTION!  You're just doing a complaint!
<CalneCrusader> most people live in china and you havent said anything about them
<Andeomon> hehe yeah.
<Le-Renard--> Tell me about , for example, Colombias FARC ? theyr motives , etc
<NancyL> JubJub, I don't know the plans, but I think few are rushing forward, etc.
<Andeomon> You have to understand that these channelings aren't direct
<Le-Renard--> surely all might zetas  do know about it
<samsara2003> I'm not clear on what is meant by IMPLANTS?
<Le-Renard--> and please, dont relate it to US :)
<Andeomon> they are towards her 3rd density from before and they cant be done in real time with complete prescision
<Andeomon> unless she knows a lot about the subject in her physical existance
<Okidok> Nancy,,,,Is Chemtrails a local USA affaire???
<Le-Renard--> lol
<Le-Renard--> Andeomon: a beautiful mind ?
<Le-Renard--> lol
<CalneCrusader> that is convenient Andeoman isnt it
<Andeomon> :)
<BrianC> Le-Renard , Le-Retard?
<NancyL> ZT to Le-R re FARC: This group resents the current government of Columbia being in bed with the US re drug running, and wishes to free Columbia to become what it can be in their minds.
<samsara2003> What is an IMPLANT?
<Torbj> some people here are afraid....
<NancyL> ZT: They want the US OUT, and drug runners to be KING.   As simple as that.  
<NancyL> End ZT to Le-R.
<Andeomon> i can nearly hear the radio clicks
<NancyL> OK, onto Q3, Crop Circles ...
<obany> okay folks, some questions that are asked now are not related .. please stick to the subjects
<NancyL> CROP CIRCLES
<NancyL> 1.  Are cropcircles in the main orbit symbols? or chakra symbols or something else?? Has the Zeta's something to say more about it?
<NancyL> 2. The new Mel Gibson movie, a Px message?
<Andeomon> i agree with obany
<Torbj> know that you are affraid, and you are on track
<NancyL> ZT: A quick answer re the Chilbolton circles, which show a face and a pattern akin to binary code or radio.
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<obany> a follow up question have to be related
<NancyL> ZT: There are several indications that these are man-made, not genuine.
<samsara2003> NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<matt> the satnd alone face aint
<NancyL> ZT: 1. They do not follow the previous pattern, which is mysterious and circular, NOT rectangular and obvious.
<Okidok> another conspiracy
<NancyL> ZT: 2. They are crudely done, with broken grain which will not grow again and grain bend in all directions.
<NancyL> ZT: 3. They are not the SIZE of genuine circles, being tiny not massive, and thus able to be done by man in his fakery.
<NancyL> ZT: So what was the point?  Why were they done?
<NancyL> ZT: The early debunkers claiming to have done the circles with board, in England, got lots of media attention but were not, frankly, believed by the public.
<NancyL> ZT: Those running the debunking program wished for a fresh start, and these circles are an attempt to get back into the media.
<NancyL> ZT: After awhile, the plan was for them to come forward and present video of the making, and thus debunk afresh that crop circles are alien.
<NancyL> End ZT on this matter, onto other parts of the Q.
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<CalneCrusader> Nancy, last year i stood in the milk hill 407 formation, the largest in the world - can the zetas tell me if it was real/fake, and what is the name of the nearest village to it? The zetas will of course know the answer
<NancyL> ZT: Mankind often complains that crop circles are not CLEAR in their intent, their message.
<DuncanC> Calne: yo she's not a fortune teller, she's not going to tell you the winning lotto numbers or guess your birthday
<NancyL> ZT: It is clear they are increasing in complexity, often have circles that might be considered planets or suns in a solar system, and their relationship by some force or another.
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<NancyL> ZT: We have stated that the makers of genuine crop circles are speaking to the subconscious of man, who understands the message even if the more regid conscious resists.
<NancyL> ZT: The subconscious understand the body language of someone afraid, or feeling sexual, or resentful.
<NancyL> ZT: The conscious is aware that the rules of society are being followed, the right clothing worn, and the schedule on time.
<Okidok> if it is a hoax , why does nobody see this crop circles been made, and how can these hoaxers get the overviuv to make them
<NancyL> ZT: Thus, the conscious views crop circles and puzzles, but the subconscious understands.
<Feverglow> I've seen a video of what looked like 2 Orbs making a crop circle!?
<Cruithne> me too
<NancyL> ZT: Mankind is aware, both subconsciously and consciously, that the weather has become unpredictable, the poles melting, and the fauna and flora about his migrating and behaving out of keeping with what is expected.
<TellMeSomethingIDontKnow> me too
<orion> that's a good video
<Le-Renard--> that video proven to be fake
<DuncanC> le-renard: proven, how?
<TellMeSomethingIDontKnow> Nancy, did you know that Nikola Tesla knew how to invert Earths polarity?
<NancyL> ZT: They see the Moon with halos about it, the jet stream passing clouds overhead in odd ways, and note that NO ONE seems to have an explanation outside of what seems silly.
<obany> okay .. guys one more time HUSH AND NO CHATTER DURING THE ANSWER PLEASE
<NancyL> ZT: If Global Warming is the issue, then why does the US excuse itself to polute merrily away?
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<TellMeSomethingIDontKnow> someone was making a lot of mess
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<NancyL> ZT: What crop circles are presenting is the relationship between the inbound planet and the OTHER planets in the solar system.
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<TellMeSomethingIDontKnow> thats 1 person counting as 9 ... no wonder the room is so filled !!!!!!!!!
<NancyL> ZT: Where a scopions tail is presented, this is the manner that the Moons of the inbound planet trail a traveling planet.
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<NancyL> ZT: Thus, the message "traveling" has been given.
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<NancyL> ZT: Where several planets are placed with lines drawn between them, this is presenting the many pushes and pulls that planets have against one anohter.
<NancyL> ZT: One such force is gravity, which boths pushes and pulls, another is magnetism.
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<NancyL> ZT: There are many OTHER forces that affect the placement of planets in the ecliptic, but man is unaware of these particle flows so we will not expound.
<nosafety> Please Try
<CalneCrusader> Nancy, last year i stood in the milk hill 407 formation, the largest in the world - can the zetas tell me if it was real/fake? I am looking at the moon now and i definately do not see a halo
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<NancyL> ZT: Where crop circles were simple at first, a single circle, this message was, they are static, established, and the push and pull balanced so what you see perpetuates itself.
<NancyL> ZT: What we call the equilibrium of the solar system.
<NancyL> ZT: When more circles are entered, and lines drawn, this represents the equilibrium being disrupted.
<NancyL> ZT: Large designs such as snow flakes, where there is a branching from central points, these central points then connected, are relaying yet another message.
<NancyL> ZT EACH of these planets has it's own kingdowm, and influences its own moons and the like.
<NancyL> ZT: Yet they likewise affect each OTHER.
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<NancyL> ZT: We would suggest those curious about the meaning of these genuine crop circles do through their history, placing them on a table by date, and pass their eye over them.
<NancyL> ZT: They will see the equilibrium of the solar system being disrupted as these circles progress over time.
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<Andeomon> everything is over-simplified here. this is just a way for the Zetans to try and get some public support but they're failing in it as they have failed in everything recently ... theres really only 51 people here. lol
<NancyL> ZT: They will get the FEELING of what is happening to the solar system, where many planets and moons of these planets are exhibiting a distrubed equillibrim, changing, heating up, or whatever.
<NancyL> ZT: Once having gotten that FEELING, the conscious is allowing the subconscious to speak more loudly, and this should be allowed to continue.
<Le-Renard--> well...would u please change subject?
<NancyL> ZT: Never mind what other humans have told you are the explanation for crop circles, YOU listen to your subconscious.
<NancyL> End ZT on that issue, not AU massive man.
<Karen> last cropcircle I saw looked like an enormous chrysanthemum , no lines  
<Le-Renard--> NancyL: The Whole world seems to be able to refute any kind of "pesudo-scientific" statement you make in the newsgroup sci.astro (for those who havent read go to groups.google.com and look for sci.astro). Cant you just give some kind of physical proof or take on of the exceptics with you or make the zetas to talk to him as well....that will surely give you much more credibility. is that a posibility?
<Dan33> What determines a planets position in the solar system, shouldn't small planets be close to the sun based on mass, but Pluto isn't?
<obany> le-renard-- uuh you know by now, no chatter during the answer or asking questions ...
<BrianC> Why don't the crop circle show an obviouse solar system (ours) with the tenth planet?
<Andeomon> Tell Krilll we Grill greys every day and we dont even know the poor creatures their brains just pop all over the place!
<obany> AND THIS IS NO SCI.ASTRO
<Okidok> who is behind these circles?? are the enteties from zetas or other aliens??
<sirgrim> Dan33: than pluto was obviously created last
<NancyL> ZT: The massive man recently produced by the Aborigines in AU was NOT done simply by these hightly STO tribes, but was assisted by aliends.
<sirgrim> or joined up last
<NancyL> ZT: The message?  These beleagered aboriginals, so long mistreated by those in power in AU, are LARGER than their prosecutors, and here's proof.
<matt> way too many styles of crop-circels to ALL be about the planets???
<mmt> Why can't a regular 3600 y orbit for Millions of years be part of the equilibrium?
<Le-Renard--> NancyL: The Whole world seems to be able to refute any kind of "pesudo-scientific" statement you make in the newsgroup sci.astro (for those who havent read go to groups.google.com and look for sci.astro). Cant you just give some kind of physical proof or take on of the exceptics with you or make the zetas to talk to him as well....that will surely give you much more credibility. is that a posibility?
<NancyL> ZT: It is a message to those inflated egos in charge of politics in AU, and those in England planning to migrate there, deserting their countrymen in time of need.
<Zantrin> given the early sprin up here north of the artic circle(19C here today) when is the sudden frost supposed to happen???
<NancyL> ZT: The message is, "Hey, you BIG men, with BIG heads, you're not so big!  Look here, at the simple aboriginals, we're the REAL BIG men."
<obany> le-renard:  come on this is not related... AND THIS IS NO SCI.ASTRO ...
<NancyL> End ZT on CC and all, Followup?
<Andeomon> NancyL: Listen. The Zetans are pure Lucifers servants. I dont understand but it seems youre fighting against yourself
<matt> lol go hard abos!
<NancyL> We had a netsplit, right?  Are all back with us?
<sirgrim> NancyL: I created a cool 'Enhanced By ZetaTalk - Contactee' link button that's on wagd.com and links to you, you're more than welcome to give it out and use it for whatever
<Andeomon> Yes all 9 of fake IDs
<samsara2003> To ZT:Who are the groups responsible for perpurtrating the crop circle hoaxes, in the main?
<obany> yes Nancy they are
<Le-Renard--> NancyL: would u please answer my question ?
<NancyL> Matt, why can't man build building that don't fall down in quakes?  Are not occasional quakes part of the equilibrium?
<Andeomon> Nancy , why do Zetans radiate with so much negative energy?
<Andeomon> and yet here you talk about fighting for positivity?
<NancyL> I'm only reading the Q's posed since I shut up, not going back.
<matt> sorry? to me?
<Le-Renard--> NancyL: The Whole world seems to be able to refute any kind of "pesudo-scientific" statement you make in the newsgroup sci.astro (for those who havent read go to groups.google.com and look for sci.astro). Cant you just give some kind of physical proof or take on of the exceptics with you or make the zetas to talk to him as well....that will surely give you much more credibility. is that a posibility?
<Le-Renard--> there
<NancyL> Zantrin, we don't give detail weather predicitons.
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<RobH> thank you!
<NancyL> Sirgrim :-)  What is your site?
<samsara2003> Good Redence...
<sirgrim> http://www.WAGD.com no popups, the graphics on the left
<Okidok> Nancy  why does thes circles only appear in the whiltshire area in UK??
<Andeomon> NancyL , why are you ignoring me?
<Okidok> almost
<NancyL> Le-R, I don't find ZT refuted at all.
<Zantrin> the royal we and the z´s have left for now???!!!!!
<Andeomon> he's not here
<samsara2003> lol
<Andeomon> yeah lol
<Jan> Gerard, can't you get this Andreomon to shut up?
<Torbj> my doughter gave me a heartformed piece of wood to day
<Andeomon> why?
<NancyL> Okido, re UK circles, the Zetas already said they get good media coverage, the Brits intelligent and doing good analysis, so that's why they put a LOT of them in the UK!
<Dan33> what determines a planets position in the solar system, is it only mass?
<Jeremy> Will crop cricles continue to appear right up to final few weeks prior to the pole shift?
<Torbj> look what i find, she said..
<BrianC> Nancy, Why aren't the crop circles obviouse on the planet x approach?
<Andeomon> because we're fighting for democracy the way i see it Nancy, but in this room no one is allowed to state their own opinions :D LOL RIGHT?
<SteveH> Did the zeta's have any comment on the Mel Gibson movie Signs?
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<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> signs?
<NancyL> Dan33, the Z's have said (Eliptic writeup in Science I think) that planets would float to different orbits if the other planets were to disappear, etc.  
<Torbj> its´there for all of us to find....feel like a child!
<samsara2003> You forgot the Mel Gibson Movie...only 3 minutes left
<S7L> Dan33: of course not. Position is determined by at leat mass and motion. When you have initial position, direction of movement and mass, according to established science those _are_ all the things necessary to determine the position.
<RobH> yeah what about SIGNS?
<NancyL> It is many particle flows, and we're all in the backwash of major particle flows going back INTO the Sun, pushed out by repulsion force from the Sun and other planets, etc.
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<Andeomon> we love doing this :D
<NancyL> Jermey ZT: Crop Cicles will appear as long as a place to draw them exists, right up until the shift itself.
<Zantrin> hmmmm, a perfect(verifiably not a hoax)cropcircle with the message "WE ARE HERE" written in english preferablu in arial bold font type would be .... nice whn x get realy close??!!
<sirgrim> I found the government's recent report of solar rays interferring with satellite transmissions laughable, seams like they're preparing people for them to go down.
<NancyL> ZT: If grain fields become scarse, then desert sand might be used.
<NancyL> ZT: As in AU lately, carving rock stata might occur.
<Jeremy> NancyL: Crop circle watchers stay tuned!
<Andeomon> grain feilds, dead scientsist, tell me something i CANT read about in my newspapers?
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<Andeomon> wb le-r
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<NancyL> ZT: In that the mankind will be more fearful, more likely to be in touch with their subconsciosu, over this next year, going into the shift, circles will have MORE impact and thus will most likely appear more OFTEN.
<obany> okay you know it now .... no disruption or you will get banned again the same for the others ... it's anyoing...
<NancyL> ZT: They will, we predict, get less media coverage than before, becoming a local phenomena.
<matt> signs movie please
<NancyL> ZT: But the impact may be greater for this, as visiting such as creation has an impact far beyond simply seeing pictures.
<Andeomon> After the great war all that remained of the Lucifers forces was in the colony of Zeta Reticulum where they were mixed with reptilian and many other races. The humans now reside only on Earth Pleiades and Procyon colonies and are fighting with the Galactic Council against the terror of the Zetans.
<NancyL> End ZT to Jeremy.
<Jeremy> thanks
<Le-Renard--> ok
<NancyL> Sirgrim, didn't know they were talking satellites.  Very goo!
<Le-Renard--> now ill ask
<Le-Renard--> NancyL: The Whole world seems to be able to refute any kind of "pesudo-scientific" statement you make in the newsgroup sci.astro (for those who havent read go to groups.google.com and look for sci.astro). Cant you just give some kind of physical proof or take on of the exceptics with you or make the zetas to talk to him as well....that will surely give you much more credibility. is that a posibility?
<obany> andemoen: i guess you want a ban ... or so ?
<Andeomon> live the resistance!
<aok> how fast will px travel during nearest earth flyby?
<Andeomon> :) no ... just stating my opinions because i want to relate to this
<Andeomon> cos im not allowed to state my opinions right?
<NancyL> Le-R.  Shnort answer to all your statements - NO.
<sirgrim> i'll try to find an article, think it just came out last night
<Andeomon> :(
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> Give Andeomon his space!
<Dan33> Where will the people flock to after the poleshift, any particular city or area?
<Zantrin> toes the zetas know of any 5th dencity or higer are precently active in an incarnation on earth?
<NancyL> AOK, travel is a good Q and should be added to next weeks agenda, I'll do that.  SPEED, and when and how fast, etc.
<Andeomon> New Jerusalem :)
<nosafety> Sirgrim, the effects of geomagnetic storms on the birds has been known for decades
<Le-Renard--> Nancy?
<Karen> Thank you again Nancy and Zeta's for Zetatalk till next week  take care
<Le-Renard--> please answer my question..am i inisible ?
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<sirgrim> nosafety: we're talking satellites in orbit without an atmosphere
<obany> i didn't say that you are not allowed to state a different opiinion... but it's the way how you do it
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> SIGNS?
<sirgrim> not biological entities
<NancyL> I think the distance chart developed by TT members is not all right, as it is poky at times, faster at others, etc.
<Le-Renard--> NancyL: The Whole world seems to be able to refute any kind of "pesudo-scientific" statement you make in the newsgroup sci.astro (for those who havent read go to groups.google.com and look for sci.astro). Cant you just give some kind of physical proof or take on of the exceptics with you or make the zetas to talk to him as well....that will surely give you much more credibility. is that a posibility?
<nosafety> thats what a bird is Sirgrim
<matt> *SIGNS*
<samsara2003> How about the movie signs, Nancy?
<BrianC> Why aren't the crop circles obviouse on Planet X's approach, like a nice solar system picture with it etc.
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> Yeah and painted in red!
<NancyL> OH, I forgot about the Mel Gibson movie part!
<S7L> Le-Renard--: I think we have established by now that your query does not generate interest for a reply. Thank you for playing.
<matt> phew
<obany> le-renard: geeezzzzzzzzzzz go to sci.astro or so ... one more time is enough
<Andeomon> BrianC, her interpretations of the crop circles are just planned as a confusion
<Andeomon> Those who are fighting against the Zetans are painting them on our feilds
<NancyL> ZT: The new movie, Signs, which deals with crop circles and the mystery they encompass, is NOT about a pole shift.
<Le-Renard--> S7L: i thing its not convenient for your group to answer my question
<BrianC> Andeomon?  I doubt that.
<NancyL> ZT: It is of the ilk that most alien movies have been, lately.
<Andeomon> those who fight for freedom liberty and truth
<sirgrim> nosafety: and birds have been going crazy
<S7L> don't talk about my group. I merely stated an observation.
<sirgrim> nosafety: also on whales, which have been beaching themselves in large numbers
<Le-Renard--> oh my god, the Zetas are inside hollywood as well, unbelievable
<sirgrim> but that's not what i was talkin 'bout
<Jan> Le-Renard, start doing some research yourself instead of listening to the deaf and dumb ones on sci.astro. There are numerous sources out there showing that current science is incorrect, that the moon is inhabited, that we have been visited before, that there have been pole4-shifts etc.
<Andeomon> Zetans are technocratic, slaves - nothing more
<Feverglow> cattle mutalations????
<Zantrin> any heads up about future movies with  some "significance"??
<NancyL> ZT: The message from the establishment is 1. cling to your government, who will protect you, 2. be suspicous of anything alien, they are out to eat or enslave you, 3. man wins out over aliens, even with inferiour technology
<Andeomon> Nancy knows who to ignore so well , she senses what i can do to her energy :)
<Andeomon> and is afraid ;)
<Le-Renard--> Jan: Nancy just said ZT doesnt get refuted at all in sci.astro
<NancyL> ZT: NOthing new in the movie business, sad to say.
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> Andeomon:check out Wingmakers.com dude:)
<NancyL> End ZT.
<RobH> too bad
<SteveH> sounds dissapointing...
<matt> but the poster is powerful
<Zantrin> coment on the movie A.I?????+
<NancyL> Well, it's been the hour, and I need to rest.
<Andeomon> sure hugo
<nosafety> birds=satellites Sirgrim, the effect has been know for decades, was nothing new
<nosafety> Thats because she doesn't read sci.astro, she just posts there
<samsara2003> Is there government involvement in the creation of the movie signs?
<abk> Thanks, Nancy
<Bailey> any thing to say on NESARA????
<BrianC> Thanks Nancy.
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<Cruithne> ThanKs NancyL
<Andeomon> nancy, say bie bie to some of your energy shells for 1 week
<samsara2003> Is that what ZT meant to relate or was alluding to?
<Le-Renard--> Jan: Nancy just said ZT doesnt get refuted at all in sci.astro
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<obany> bye Nancy and thank you and the Zetas for the answers
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<NancyL> Thank you all for attending and inspiriting great ZetaTalk!
<Andeomon> thanks for being such a good ranter
<SteveH> Thanks Nancy and Z's
<Torbj> andeomon....nordic?
<Andeomon> i hope the zetans crash in our new WTC next time too ;)
<NancyL> Send me any Q's you have via the Contact Nancy link from my home page.
<Le-Renard--> oh ur leaving now?
<samsara2003> Damn
<orion> thanks nancy
<morko> lol
<Andeomon> pleiadian
<Le-Renard--> aah , im putting ur website down this week
<sirgrim> thanks nancy
<Le-Renard--> so likely that wont be a posibility
<sirgrim> and zetas
<NancyL> Thank you Gerard/Obany for slogging through the policing problems here on the chat! :-)
<Torbj> a hug from me to you,Nancy!
<Bailey> bye
<Andeomon> nancy you are completely possessed
<Andeomon> :)
<Jan> Bye Nancy
<Jeremy> Bye Nancy
<Andeomon> nanana dont answer me nanana you know what awaits you
<NancyL> Pretend I'm gone now.  IQX, do you know the Blake-Radio link?
<SteveH> does anyone have a link for AU's massive man?
<taurusguy> andeomon, you suck
<sirgrim> it's pointed to my page for some reason nancy, if someone sends me the files i'll throw 'em where it's pointing
<Andeomon> :D w00t i do dont i
<kirk> i think hes funny
<obany> folks, the chatter and aksing questions during the answers is very anoying and talking about things not related to this session ...so for those who want to join in next week ... don't do it it's disturging
<RobH> look, we are not here to debate zetatalk, if you want to do that, go somewhere else
<taurusguy> thanks nancy, zetas....bye.....
<Le-Renard--> NancyL: why do u want to make a movie about ur story....cause when its done for the premiere planet x will be here by now
<BrianC> Why aren't the crop circles more obviouse on planet X's approach.
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<NancyL> Sirgrim, I don't have the files?  I think Gerard it trying to locate them, etc.  Thanks!
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<Le-Renard--> NancyL: u wont get alot public will you ?
<sirgrim> OK, tell 'em to get 'em to me and i'll put 'em where his page points
<sirgrim> sirgrim@WAGD.com if they need to
<Jan> gerard, is there any way you can block the chit-chat?
<NancyL> Bye all!
<Andeomon> NancyL is completely hypnotized and she has the reptilian existance in 4th density!
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<kirk> cheerio
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<Andeomon> :D there she left
<Lovestarr> 777?
<Zantrin> S7L...= Myford S7L
<Le-Renard--> guys, how can u blindly believe this crap? i hope im not getting banned for my opinion ?
<obany> well maybe to get it like it was before ... or i will juse the ban more often way more often
<kirk> you scared her away!
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<look_4> Andeomon----> Do you believe what Nancy says about the upcoming Pole Shift?
<BrianC> Le-Renard, I hope for your sake you do some reading.
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<Domicile> Maree Man links http://rupestre.net/orme/works/marree.html
<morko> RobH: zetatalk is over all criticism? why not talk here where it gets heard.
<Le-Renard--> BrianC: i do alot of reading
<sevensevenseven> no look 4, she like many other zetans wants to create panic
<Le-Renard--> BrianC: unlike you, zeta believers
<Jan> Le-Renard, nobody should blindly believe anything. Do your research, and if you don't agree, get lost and do something else with your life!
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<sevensevenseven> she is interpreting the pole shift as something the Zetans want to happen
<BrianC> Well tell me have you read Velikovski? or Sitchin?
<Bailey> well said jan
<sevensevenseven> because they know that if you believe something it will happen
<mattaway> lol Sirgrim
<Zantrin> I for one does not trust the messengers(ZETAS) but on thing has to be said: THEY HAVE NOT MISSED ONCE!!!
<obany> right Jan .... as the constant disruption of the channel is anyoing
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> i get the sense a lot of this ZT is self fulfilling- if you get sucked in you feed the channels that are open
<sevensevenseven> nancy just wants to reverse engineer this
<mattaway> *envious*
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<SteveH> thanks for the link Domicile
<Torbj> have some of you felt an "uprising sexual" feeling this past weeks?
<sevensevenseven> and make the poleshift happen with our help
<Lovestarr> 777... you are right about zetas i think...
<Le-Renard--> i wonder, when planetx doesnt show up...will she give the donations money back to you....or will she just accept a demand ?
<RobH> morko - because this is NOT THE PLACE to debate zetatalk, we are here to LISTEN to what they have to say, IF YOU DONT BELIVE IN IT KEEP IT TO YOURSELF OR GO AWAY
<sevensevenseven> thank you Lovestarr
<sevensevenseven> i hope people wake up
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<nosafety> Someone should tell that to Nancy
<Lovestarr> that is why nancy is so anti-government
<sevensevenseven> i just proved to everyone how badly she ignored me
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<Lovestarr> Uncle Sam is out to blow them away...
<sevensevenseven> its just pretendings partially
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<sevensevenseven> lol Lovestarr, i wouldnt really agree with this
<obany> with your consttant nickchanges and stupid comments all of the time ...
<sevensevenseven> because its partially true but they have controll of Uncle Sam too
<sevensevenseven> lol obany
<Feverglow> maybe were also being brainwashed into thinking that a pole shift will happen, so that we will panic and give ourselves up to anything coming to our planet that we think may help us?!?
<Le-Renard--> i wonder, when planetx doesnt show up...will she give the donations money back to you....or will she just accept a lawsuit ?
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<Lovestarr> she uses the murder of a bio=chemist by her daugher to exaggerat the brutality..
<look_4> but may I ask where you hold your information from? it does sound relevant and is plausible, but where can I read more about this?
<Lovestarr> his
<nosafety> My quess is she'll move to Norway Le-Renard - lol
<sevensevenseven> look 4 , you can lookinside yourself
<Le-Renard--> LOL
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<sevensevenseven> but also try searching :)
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<BrianC> Le-Renard?? What do you think about the increased temperature of the earths core?  What do you think about pole shifts??
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<Zantrin> HEY I live in NORWAY!?
<sevensevenseven> the matrix document on www.blackvault.com
<Jan> WHO should move to Norway?
<RobH> i wonder what you will do LE-RENARD when IT DOES SHOW UP!   Shit your pants maybe? I bet.
<sevensevenseven> www.davidicke.com and stuff
<BrianC> HEY LE_RENARD I"M TALKING TO YOU!
<Jenkins3d> 777, are there brown zetas and if so are they the ones communicating with nancy?
<BrianC> What do you think buddy?
<Okidok> here is new upcoming crop circles movie
<look_4> inside myself there's that feeling that something's up with the zetan message, yet at the same time I feel this is not the whole picture
<Zantrin> nothing wrong with norway except the politicians and the pissy weather
<Okidok> http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/entertainment/films/aplacetostay.shtml
<nosafety> Will these sessions continue after next year?
<Le-Renard--> BrianC: What do you think about a planet coming 1 year from now not being visible BY NOW? What do you think about the stupid "RED COLOR BLENDS MORE THAN ANY OTHER" stupid crap?
<Jan> Zantrin, which "pissy" weather?
<sevensevenseven> the brown zetans are simply different genetics , they are the ones conquering some of the Pleiadian systems now
<Zantrin> 9 months of good skiing and 3 months of bad skiing???!:)
<sevensevenseven> they are not directly from Zeta
<sevensevenseven> Jan :)
<Lovestarr> the pleidians are fed up with these zetas...
<BrianC> What do you think about all the planets being perturbed towards ORION?
<sevensevenseven> long time ago
<sevensevenseven> as well as the galactic council
<nosafety> Who told you that Brian?
<Torbj> Det går en vind över vindens ängar....
<RobH> laater everyone, im tired of bickering.  READ ZETATALK thats where the proof is.  
<morko> id rather believe mayan prophecy that this nancy prophecy if i would have to choose.
<SteveH> bye all!
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<obany> THIS CHANNEL IS NOT SCI.ASTRO FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO DISCUSS SCI.ASTRO SUBJECTS.. go to groups.google.com and then sci.astro .... and leave the discussion out of this channel please ...
<BrianC> What do you think about the NASA announcement in 1981 by a chief NASA officer that there was definetly something there?
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<sevensevenseven> hehehe
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<Torbj> "There is a wind blowing *
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<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> proof schmoof; this is a mind fuck
<nosafety> BrianC, you should read more instead of telling others to do so
<sevensevenseven> The zetans are using nancy and others to confuse the population
<Zantrin> og i mellomtia sett ØÆ hær i bodø å nyt været!!!
<sevensevenseven> Nancy has many true points
<Feverglow> ???
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<Le-Renard--> BrianC: i think it ahs nothing to do with that old ladys imaginary planet x
<Cruithne> achoo
<sevensevenseven> but they are just only parts of her ranting
<sevensevenseven> so that they make the lies look more truthful
<BrianC> Right obany, no I shouldn't waist my time with mindless people.
<Torbj> are you a population, 7777
<obany> for those who don't know there is also the #troubled_times channel for talk about the coming times, about preparing etc
<Torbj> ?
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<sevensevenseven> i am part of the population :) yes
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<Zantrin> 7777????
<sevensevenseven> and so is everyone here
<sevensevenseven> lol 777 he meant
<Jan> Zantrin, been tZantrin, you need to get south!
<nosafety> Well, my first and last timehere, was a total waste of time, but good insight into the "Planet X "people
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<BrianC> Le-Renard, why are you even here if you aren't actually concerned about it??  
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<sevensevenseven> btw 777 has no meaning as a number it just resembles a symbol
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<obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/thub10.htm
<Jan> Bye all!
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<sevensevenseven> bye jan
<Okidok> Bodø er vel litt utsatt neste år??
<Le-Renard--> BrianC: im concerned about how your little cult is full of mindless people
<Zantrin> kommer sansynlig vis tei og evakueret til et sted nært grensen
<Torbj> That´s comforting for you?....dont need to think for your own....take action....
<sevensevenseven> The Zetans conotrll the Bush family and then she tries to pretend as if she is against them
<sevensevenseven> telling us that the orchastrated attacks on iraq afghanistan and others are real, and not done by the illuminati
<morko> what is that symbol that 777 presents?
<Bailey> IQx, where are you?
<obany> well sevensevenseven you are so into D Icke ..well http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a108.htm
<BrianC> Le-Renard, you know... I don't understand you, why are you even here?  Is it really just to insult?  Why don't you do something constructive and get over your own fears about Planet X ?
<sevensevenseven> :D
<Zantrin> IM more 666
<Zantrin> grin
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> morko> Aleister Crowley
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<sevensevenseven> by the way, if you look inside the Zetans eye presented on the zetatalk page youll see the Luciferian symbols
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> READ
<sevensevenseven> lol
<Le-Renard--> BrianC: Own fears? LOL ... i guess you learned that from Nancy Leider cult leader
<obany> sevensevenseven: doh ...
<Zantrin> do what ye want an do harm to no-one
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<sevensevenseven> i am reading it obany i am
<sevensevenseven> lol
<obany> this channel is not the place for throwing insults ... renard ...
<look_4> it is much easier to believe the Pole Shift won't happen... rather than accept the fact it is coming up.
<BrianC> What are you talking about?  How old are you, maybe you should tell your Daddy.
<morko> so whats wrong with light bearer? lucifer?
<sevensevenseven> typical
<Le-Renard--> obany: BrianC insulted me first
<Le-Renard--> heh
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<Spanky> what is that plate thing on that page with the pictures of nancy?
<sevensevenseven> Nancy is worse then CNN sometimes :D
<Spanky> http://awakening.tts.lt/universe/zetatalk/p-2.jpg
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> Lucifer works to ingratiate himself to humanity and steer it away from its sovereignity
<BrianC> Le-R,  Tell me why you are here?
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<Le-Renard--> ok people, what will happen with the time comes and theres no sign of such Planet X ? WHat will be your actions?
<BrianC> Lets everybody listen to why Le-Renard is here.
<sevensevenseven> yeah , what will be your actions?
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> Life goes on Le-R
<sevensevenseven> lol
<Torbj> have any of you thought this thought trough...*i´m going to die*....and then felt it.....DIE...?
<sevensevenseven> just like many groups before
<sevensevenseven> you will loose will to live and all your morals
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> yep and it feels GOOD Torbj
<Bailey> I read lucifer made it back to heaven and was only serving out his purpose for our ultimate good, so the war is over so we can all go home now :o)
<Zetapal> hey Le-Renard you want me to answer your question that you psted about 10 times while everyone else was trying to listen to Zetatalk you retard?
<sevensevenseven> many groups have done this nearly every year
<Le-Renard--> BrianC: Its like i ask to you...why os Nancy Leider posting in sci.astro? Nobody cares what she has to say there
<look_4> ok, so what I get from your saying folks is that the NWO is buying some time with the help of the zetas, right?
<Zantrin> I already know how an when I will die
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> Lucifer is Good, but we must realise our sovereignity
<sevensevenseven> since the 1500s there were groups believeing the end of world or something like this is near
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<sevensevenseven> nancy is just using this to create more panic among everyone
<Zantrin> dying only hurts for a moment!!!:)
<Le-Renard--> heavens gate rings a bell ?
<obany> zetabeliever: the session has ended...
<sevensevenseven> and when we all panic the NWO just takes over and tells us its all gonna be just fine
<BrianC> Yes, what was that annoying question that you kept posting Le-Renard?
<Le-Renard--> scroll back and read
<obany> renard: zetatalk has absolutely nothing to do with heavens gate
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<BrianC> I don't have that option .. anybody got that question?
<Le-Renard--> they're both cults
<sevensevenseven> look r - NWO are the Zeta
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<sevensevenseven> 4*
<_wooferBR_> HI!
<sirgrim> BrianC: something stupid like take a picture of the planet or something
<obany> zetabeliever: the session has ended...
<look_4> 777---> I've been praying that you say is true...
<obany> oops
<Torbj> when humans are affraid to die, the talk...
<_wooferBR_> The discussion has already ended?
<obany> yes the zetatalk irc session ended some 23 minuts ago
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> There is no REAL Death!
<_wooferBR_> Thanks for the info...
<obany> started 84 minuts ago
<Doodle> i have a question
<sirgrim> i think i have a log of someone wants it
<sevensevenseven> look_4, you will see by next year nancy and people with her propaganda are completely going to be destroyed
<Doodle> what is the point of zetatalk
<Bailey> I have lots of questions doodle
<sirgrim> has like 2 weeks worth of #zetatalk log actually
<sevensevenseven> David Icke will make many corrections but he will be among the ones who will be recognized..... also billy meier
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<look_4> what will happen to these folks exactlY?
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<sirgrim> http://www.wagd.com/logs/zetatalk.txt
<sirgrim> has today's session in there
<obany> doodle: see zetatalk ... over there you can read about the point of zetatalk ...
<sirgrim> grimbot keeps that log constantly updated =X
<sevensevenseven> they will be cut off from any kind of universal energy in 4th and 5th densit
<BrianC> Le-Renard, back to our conversation, what do you think of the massive earth changes that took place in our Earths past?
<_wooferBR_> What will be of Nancy and others when we get to the next year, may, and nothing happen?
<Doodle> i've read it already
<Zantrin> given that all is energy and energy can not be destryed the persona, the I doesn not get destroyed and qute frankly it would be a waste to create energy paterns so complex as to sustain a personality for sot to only let it exist for afinite amount of time?
<sevensevenseven> they will have no reason or wish or potentials in their hearts to exist in any way other then like animals
<Doodle> but things won't get any different until the pole shift
<Le-Renard--> BrianC: describe those changes
<Doodle> people will stil be people
<Bailey> my friend also heard Icke personaly say He was the christ, I don't believe all I hear
<BrianC> woofer??? What makes you think this thing isn't going to come through this time?
<Doodle> the good and the bad
<Zantrin> damn wish I could type fast enough to keep up withj the conversation
<_wooferBR_> I don't know. I'm just... Not sure.
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<[cipher]> Gotta go - I guess I'll look at the logs later - Celavi NaNcy :)
<Zantrin>  typing ølike mad and makinge laike a dyslexic on steriods<+
<_wooferBR_> I have not REAL evidences, you know...
<tibetanfreedom> the point of zetatalk? to maintain Nancy's top ego
<Bailey> talk about fear monger and Bible bashing, Icke does not have one up on Nancy there
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<sevensevenseven> Celave?
<Cruithne> was there talk of pole shift prio to 30's when cayce spoke of it
<look_4> i feel Icke is only partially trithfull but in the main is full of shit...
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<obany> David Icke even speaks about shapeshifters go figure ...
<sevensevenseven> look 4 i agree
<sevensevenseven> the complete truth will come
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> the truth is IN there
<sevensevenseven> these people are like steps which will build a full truth
<Torbj> tibet....and you are stucked to her!
<BrianC> Sure well first there is the ice ages.
<_wooferBR_> I'll be back... Soon.
<Doodle> i just can't see how people would change after the pole shift
<Spanky> well, nancy talked about that amoeba thing.  reminds me of Odo :)
<sevensevenseven> the truth is OUT there :D!!!!!!
<BrianC> Why did all that ice move?
<Doodle> there are more sts than sto
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> the truth is within and without
<Le-Renard--> move where?
<sevensevenseven> all i can say is that Zetans will fail in trying to take humanity under their total control and that human awareness will raise enough for freedom and true democracy to become reality.
<obany> here about D Icke http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a108.htm
<Zetapal> truth is.
<Bailey> I can doodle
<sevensevenseven> lol obany, what are you atempting
<morko> everyone should channel their own truth and read jose arguelles mayan prophecy book! ;)
<sevensevenseven> also, no one is perfect ... and humanity should only trust itself
<Doodle> how??
<Zetapal> should?
<Zantrin> I for one welcomes a break in the status quo, life is many things but it was never ment to be easy. achievement without effort has no value!
<look_4> but once again, with all the respect that I owe you, where do you get ur information from?
<BrianC> Le-Renard, an ice age is when ice moves from one place on the globe to another..but why does it do this?
<Torbj> you look in your mirror, there is the truth1
<look_4> question to 777
<sevensevenseven> look_4 , i can not explain this ...
<Zetapal> i thought that was my face
<sevensevenseven> you will have to read a book to understand this, and i hope you will in the next few years
<Spanky> i have seen just about everything and zetatalk is the one that seems to be the most realistic outlook on the Unknown
<Zetapal> When idiots wax profetic.
<Bailey> I know about devine intervention, not chanelling we were warned against that,
<sevensevenseven> cya all....
<look_4> which book r u refering to?
<sevensevenseven> a book that doesnt exist yet
<sevensevenseven> :)
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> I like that:)
<look_4> oh... i c
<Doodle> why are there abductions happening
<sevensevenseven> Its called "The Gift Of Blue"
<Bailey> not that there is not parts of truth in chanelling, many supernatural stuff in history about that
<Hugo-Au-Go-Go> by whom 777?
<sevensevenseven> time will tell .... cya
<look_4> r u writing it?
<Nomis> 777 is a Illu
<Zetapal> The Gift of Doo
<sevensevenseven> lol
<Nomis> Illuminatic!;)
<Zetapal> 777 is a lulu
<sevensevenseven> zetas are dumb illuminati
<obany> doodle: it's in zettalk, visitations... and you can read there about te Hybrids too
<BrianC> Here's the official Planet X announcement in the 1983 Washington Post.  http://www.planetxvideo.com/Wash-post2.gif
<sevensevenseven> well cya im leaving now definatelly..... be well
<Bailey> I have other reason to believe in the pole shift, not the zetas and stichen even
<Doodle> sorry just being a skeptic
<BrianC> So Le-Renard, the simple answer to your question about why we can't see it yet is simply because it's hard to see.
<Zetapal> good ridance
<Doodle> can't quite grasp this pole shift stuff
<look_4> Bailey, could you expend on this?
<Torbj> tell the audiance Bailey!
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<Bailey> I do not think any amount of food and shelter will save the wicked
<Zantrin> by the light of darknes I shine my own shadow trough the light which I see and I use wht is around to mine rather than mine to what is around..
<Le-Renard--> BrianC: eyah right
<Zantrin> bye bye
<Le-Renard--> BrianC: hard to see
<Doodle> I do not think any amount of food and shelter will save the good
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<Zetapal> the laddy fancies himself a poet
<Bailey> that would mean thoes who were selfish and used others would be the ones to survive
<Le-Renard--> BrianC: wasnt nanacy who said last year that we would be able to see by now planet x with the naked eye ?
<BrianC> Bailey,  have you read what Einstein said about pole shifts?  Here's some Quotes. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/6396/lightfall034.htm
<Doodle> yup
<Zetapal> nope
<obany> for those who want to talk about preparing, about next year about may 2003 there is also #troubled_times wich is a perpetual channel
<Zetapal> idiot
<Doodle> people kill each other over money
<Doodle> so why not over food
<Doodle> or something
<BrianC> NO She said all along that you can see it 7 weeks before with your naked eye
<Le-Renard--> anyway gotta reboot
<Le-Renard--> brb
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<Zetapal> dont bother
<BrianC> brb too.  
<Zetapal> Brians ok
<Bailey> I do believe in the transformation but not as it is chanelled either
<Le-Renard--> BrianC: thats what she says now...but of course its usual for her to change her predictions when the former doesnt ocurr
<Doodle> i don't believe in humanity
<Doodle> or at least am loosing faith in it
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<Doodle> nothing good happening in the world
<Zetapal> Doodle what does that mean?
<Doodle> sick of it
<Doodle> every day people killing each other
<Doodle> and that stupid bush of a president
<Cruithne> what is the earliest date px will be visible
<Zetapal> your having an emotional reaction
<Bailey> Let God be true and every man a liar, study the 0 factor and other science there is proof of the power of prayer including the transformation
<BrianC> Zetapals ok too :-),  No Le-Renard I've been reading zeta-talk for years, that's not true,  she actually keeps a Zeta Accuracy record for her predictions.  She wants to see if she right too.
<look_4> Le-Renard ---> did you read that yourself on the web site last year, opr you've been told about it?
<Doodle> kind of
<Doodle> i wish animals could talk
<Zetapal> planet x visible by naked eye 7 weeks prior to shift /per ZT thats prob mid April next year
<Doodle> i would like to hear what they think of the world
<Torbj> the killing will end when you see yourselwe´s mirrorreflection as... *wow*....
<Bailey> http://www.research.ibm.com/quantuminfo/teleportation/  IBM re-search
<Cruithne> compliance with divine law will save us
<Torbj> love yourselves people...
<Bailey> http://www.cheniere.org/video/index.html Tom Bearden a modern day hero in science and technology.
<Torbj> godnight!
<Doodle> what divine law
<Doodle> ?
<Zetapal> doodle youd prob be disappointed - there's nothing to indicate that they think abstractly
<Bailey> A serious study of science gives evidence of prayer power and spiritual transformation. This can be assessed from a good understanding of the O factor taken to it's primal force. Be sure to watch the video weather engineering, on Tom's site for a better understanding of the O factor.
<Bailey> Trust in God
<Cruithne>  y e s
<Zetapal> ok Bailey thank you , you have saved me
<Zetapal> now move along please
<Bailey> fooey, that will be between you and God
<Doodle> zetapal: how can you be certain
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<Zetapal> certain of what doodle
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<Doodle> abstract thinking
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<Zetapal> what about it?
<Zetapal> ?
<Doodle> you cant be sure what animals think
<n>   Bye bye
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<obany> okay i go now bye ... and more time for those who want to discuss preparing for the coming times ahead and related subjects there is #troubled_times
<Doodle> just because they act the way they do
<Lovestarr> ultima!!!
<ultima> energy
<ultima> im here
<Zetapal> I didn't say I was certain about what animals think
<obany> ultima: session has ended
<BrianC> hello I'm back
<morko> hi ultima
<Lovestarr> welcome..gonna channel??
<Spanky> here's a question:  if the 12th planet deposits red dust all over the Earth, then how come the moon isn't covered in it.  After all there is no atmosphere on the moon and astronauts remark their footprints will be there for eternity
<ultima> hello
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<ultima> well i think that i dont channel the zetas any more
<Bailey> Ok good by, here is a big Hug of sorts to keep in mind and remember when your time comes to meet our creator.
<Zetapal> interesting spanky finally someone with half a brain,or more
<ultima> u have all been decived my freinds
<obany> the session has ended... 42 minuts ago, started more then 100 minuts ago
<ultima> ok obany i get u LOL
<Zetapal> thank you ultima you have saved me...
<Cruithne> deceived ?  how so
<Zetapal> now please move along
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<obany> well that she/he was faking it
<ultima> i can channel, but i channel the negatives when i channel the zeta, well think about it, with they hybird project
<Lovestarr> bye bailey
<look_4> utlima ---> can you expend on this?
<ultima> we have a choice of beeing them or not, they cannot just take us, they go into our sub cosn
<ultima> and tell us crap
<Cruithne> scarey
<ultima> then expect us to obay them
<Lovestarr> lol
<Zetapal> obey?
<ultima> why should we obay them when we have our own free will
<ultima> they foce us
<ultima> *force u
<Zetapal> obey what command?
<ultima> www.davidick.com
<ultima> thats a site
<Zetapal> give evidence of a command being put forth
<Cruithne> what is his name davi dick
<look_4> you forget the e www.davidicke.com
<ultima> on what the zeta really do
<obany> bye follks ... goodnight and take care ... anyway http://www.zetatalk.com/rules/r02.htm
<Lovestarr> bye obay
<Doodle> bye
<ultima> ys
<ultima> brb
<obany> here about D Icke http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a108.htm
<obany> bye
<obany> 1:46am here
<obany> nite
<BrianC> nite obany
<Spanky> obany have your #ufo buddies come back to haunt us?
<Doodle> good night
<Zetapal> nobody's commanding anyone unless of curse your talking abut your government
<ultima> well, ok heres a senario
<obany> spanky???
<Zetapal> scene 1 :
<Zetapal> cut to...
<ultima> when one is able to talk to them, he is forced to be given a gun and told to shoot one of the zeta, he is "forced to shoot"
<Spanky> alot of debunkers here today, and not even sci.astro ones.
<BrianC> That moon question was a good one I must admit, I wonder if the sun's constant bombardment of particles has anything to do with the answer.
<ultima> i channel pledians
<obany> spanky: yes, but not from #ufo for what i know
<ultima> but not of the zeta
<Cruithne> do u know anyone that channels arturians
<Lovestarr> pleidians are more with it anyways...
<ultima> i could
<morko> why don't you channel sun? :)
<ultima> but it would be hard
<ultima> i have just awaken
<ultima> it is hard
<Cruithne> living is easy
<ultima> to gather energy then(astral flights)
<Cruithne> just breathe
<BrianC> ultima, so you think the Zeta's have bad intensions?  Nancy was saying that there are good and bad Zeta's but mostly good ones.
<Cruithne> feeling good is easy too
<ultima> see you all my dear freinds if one waits
<ultima> 30 min
<Cruithne> just feel
<ultima> i shall return
<Spanky> from what zt says the ZTs are the brainy ones while plieadeans are just party animals
<ultima> yes one muist experiance theese top channel
<Lovestarr> pleidians have more fun...
<Cruithne> arcturians r the most advanced
<ultima> pledians are of love
<ultima> and zeta hate love
<Spanky> it would be like comparing dwarves and elves of tolkien/DnD lore
<Doodle> bye all
<ultima> they hate emotion LOL
<Doodle> g nite
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<Lovestarr> bye doodle
<ultima> they lack emotion
<obany> bye
<Spanky> they are like vulcans?
<ultima> pledians have a glowing consousness
<ultima> correct
<ultima> see u all in 30 min
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<Cruithne> why settle for 2nd best
<obany> zetas are not cold fish http://www.zetatalk.com/hybrids/h14.htm
<Zetapal> yeah Brian I can imagine many reasons why dust would not remain,of course your assuming dust settled there to begin with,there's prob more reasons why dust wuldn't settle/for one per Z's scenario/tail swings across earth during passing,and of course moon is some distance from earth and in an orbit to this side or the other
<obany> bye folks
<Cruithne> thanks obany
<Zetapal> bye obany
<ultima> arnt ewe all animals, arnt we all biological
<ultima> 30 min
<Zetapal> your too nice aguy
<Spanky> but in comparison, the 12th planet enters the solar system between mars and the asteroid belt
<Lovestarr> who are the acturians?
<obany> and here is another url http://www.zetatalk.com/worlds/w66.htm
<Spanky> arcturians=nordics?
<Zetapal> who are we
<Spanky> the nordics could also be on a planet orbiting the "dead sun" (which isn't dead but in 4th density)
<Jenkins3d> We are Humans...
<Spanky> which could explain why the niburians and humans resemble them
<Zetapal> thats what I asked who
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<Zetapal> tough huh?
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<Jenkins3d> what the heck are you talking about zetapal?
<Zetapal> was I talking?
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<Jenkins3d> you said who are we
<morko> aren't we all one. that's more inspiring than judging if zetas are bad etc...
<Spanky> except maybe the animated plant (bean bag man) that Nancy encountered
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<Zetapal> yes in response toLovestarr's question "Who are the arcturians?" I answered her question with a reflection of the same/a better question,if you will/ I think thats fair enough,and now I have answered your question
<Lovestarr> his question
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<Zetapal> beg your pardon love
<Zetapal> love?
<Lovestarr> as for who you are God only knows...
<Jenkins3d> lol...I wasnt paying attention to that stuff...now I look stupid
<Lovestarr> fooled me too jenkins...
<Zetapal> really Love , are you sure?
<Lovestarr> human races have origins different from each other
<Zetapal> perhaps you should only speak for yourself,it would perhaps strengthen that particular stance
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<Zetapal> would you like me to explain?
<Jenkins3d> do it...no one else it talking
<Zetapal> ahh only because noone else is talking , nice touch
<Cruithne> lol
<Lovestarr> you give me negative vibes zetapal..
<Zetapal> hmm no thank you, I think I won't
<Zetapal> all the way from over here?
<Spanky> this is full of trolls today
<Cruithne> some people r sensitive i was told
<Zetapal> perhaps you don't like that I don't simply agree with you but only point to something you haven't considered yet
<Cruithne> oh trolls they came from beneath bridges & r now know as tol's
<Cruithne> toll's
<Zetapal> I can understand that feeling
<Zetapal> Spanky are referring to me without actually saying it to me?
<Spanky> nope
<Jenkins3d> I want Ultima to come back...
<Cruithne> me too
<Lovestarr> me 3
<Spanky> there are alot of debunkers here to pick a fight this week
<Zetapal> oh ok sorry
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<Zetapal> I agree
<Jenkins3d> Well the debunkers seem to be on the same level as Nancy...talking to alines and stuff
<Jenkins3d> I was privatly talking to that abdomen guy and what he said was pretty intresting
<Zetapal> the distractions during Zchat were many today
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<Jenkins3d> hell yess...like next week there should be an argument room
<Zetapal> who Torbj aka. follow your stomach guy?
<ultima> back
<ultima> i am back
<Lovestarr> hey ultima
<Zetapal> b
<Zetapal> wb
<ultima> zetapal
<ultima> i dont want to upset ur beliefs
<ultima> u have some power in you i sence
<ultima> some light power
<Jenkins3d> omg..are you his father?
<ultima> so open your eyes you have potential
<ultima> and with all of you you have this power
<ultima> LOL
<Cruithne> lol
<Lovestarr> lol
<ultima> all of you are to be free
<Lovestarr> free from taxation without representation?
<Zetapal> back
<RayS> Hi everybody I'm baack (after 1 yr+). hope everbody is doing fine. I usually log on as RayC, RayS is my alternative (Just in case any remembers... :)).
<morko> adventure is about to begin
<Lovestarr> hi ray...
<ultima> heelo
<ultima> energy
<Lovestarr> after 1 year??
<Cruithne> what u been doing for a year
<RayS> been very busy .....
<ultima> LOL
<RayS> preparing
<Zetapal> lol...ultima thats what we call a backhanded compliment...I have potential so I better do thus and  so
<ultima> just jokin just jokin
<ultima> to prepare
<ultima> there are 2 outcomes
<BrianC> RayS, wow gone for a whole year.  
<ultima> one is a love accention
<ultima> or one is a polarisation acention
<ultima> which one shall one choose
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<ultima> ?
<Zetapal> well perhaps you are only beginning to appreciate what is alrady here and developed with you today
<BrianC> Zeta-talk is every week now,  Saturday at 5pm EST.
<ultima> i see the love as a way
<ultima> my word zeta pal
<Lovestarr> ultima, what is your take on the zeta reticulae?
<ultima> if you have seen a zeta with thouse eyes
<ultima> you know that they are evil
<ultima> but all beings
<ultima> are good
<ultima> i know that there is evil in you now
<Cruithne> uhu
<ultima> but i changed
<ultima> i opened the light in my body
<Lovestarr> at 14?
<ultima> and i evolved
<Feverglow> the source
<RayS> I used to log on to Troubled_Times chat almost exclusively. Very rarely on zetatalk.
<Cruithne> why
<ultima> 14 thats the number(12 days to 15)
<ultima> you can all evolve
<Lovestarr> so you are in high school...?
<ultima> and grow
<BrianC> RayS what do you do?  How have you prepared?
<ultima> and i can help :)
<ultima> yeah high
<ultima> just relax
<Lovestarr> well, you are not old enough to shave yet...
<ultima> and take 1 day at a time
<ultima> and enjoy each day
<ultima> and make it the best day
<ultima> of your life everyday
<ultima> and if some one rips you off, show them more love then they can imagine
<ultima> starting to shave LOL
<Cruithne> i'd rather party alot evry day
<RayS> the troubled times chat was mostly on methods and solutions
<Jenkins3d> hey, ultima..really quick, can you tell me who The Deep Throat guy was in the Watergate stuff
<Lovestarr> lol cruit...
<ultima> correct, but try to empoly love in the heart chasrka
<ultima> the more we lovre
<ultima> the more we can stop planet x :)
<Feverglow> like what Cafth says?
<ultima> show your family this love
<ultima> then they show others
<RayS> yes I have and am preparing. Ben looking forward to this for a lot of years. :)
<Lovestarr> i hear you ray but i am a newcomer...
<ultima> but why prepare
<ultima> the more you helop others
<ultima> the more you evolve
<ultima> why prepare
<ultima> i cannot, i have diabeties
<Lovestarr> only a matter of time i guess...
<Zetapal> I am free to choose between good,evil,and the third choice/an informed choice somewhere between.And thats what makes me dangerous and harmless. However such presumptions upon a persons' makeup or disposition I have not made about you. That act of recieving your inquisition without like response I consider to my credit.You throw a stone,I have yet to throw one.
<ultima> so all i can do is help with nerver ending love
<ultima> from all of the aliens and the ashcar
<RayS> Ultima, its who I am , Just like who you are is who you are.
<Zetapal> yet
<Cruithne> i'm hoping i won't have to go thru px alone
<ultima> times bring their men of unchoices
<ultima> they will have to go throught the same
<ultima> harm over and over again
<ultima> then will never learn
<ultima> open your eyes
<Lovestarr> where are you located ray? are you in a safe spot?
<ultima> and cry out and know what you have done wrone for a mileia since your soul
<ultima> has be incrante
<ultima> love destroys peices
<RayS> yes and i'm in USA South Texas.
<ultima> of planet x
<Cruithne> i'm gonna obey divine law
<Lovestarr> chicago area here...
<Lovestarr> divine law is the natural law in many ways too
<ultima> correct
<Spanky> whose divine law? christian, muslim, bhuddist?
<ultima> all of them
<Feverglow> do you know who Cafth is?
<Zetapal> ultimas'
<Cruithne> it's like civil rights/human rights  can't have 1 without the other
<Lovestarr> who is Cath?
<ultima> they all have aspects to ones self
<Feverglow> www.ufo2u.com
<Feverglow> he talks about the same kind of stuff about following your heart looking inside and paying more attention to God(the source)
<Jenkins3d> Ultima...did you see my question I asked like 3 minutes ago?
<ultima> we are all the soruce we are all GOD
<Lovestarr> God is not religion thank God...
<Feverglow> loving yourself and everybody else
<Zetapal> ultima you need not private me,why not engage me before our peers?
<ultima> what question is that freind
<Feverglow> its everywhere i agree
<ultima> because
<ultima> you need tutoring
<ultima> my freind
<Zetapal> who are you addressing?
<RayS> it is possible to have civil rights without human rights... look at China. They have civil rights, right up until the guy with the gun revokes there basic human right (life)...
<ultima> why such a sad face
<ultima> <ultima> common
<ultima> <ultima> you have more ;love then u can imagine
<ultima> <ultima> you can kill the zeta that you have inside of you
<ultima> <ultima> i had one
<ultima> <ultima> and i let it decive me
<ultima> <ultima> i let it take control of me
<Lovestarr> lol.. got a point there ray...
<ultima> <ultima> but one day i said np
<Feverglow> shadows reptilians?
<ultima> i said no
<ultima> and i killed it
<ultima> now i have left the dark to the light
<Lovestarr> probably...
<ultima> cannot you see that
<ultima> you are all light
<ultima> my freinds
<ultima> why are you dark nights
<ultima> ?
<Feverglow> ive felt like that for the past few years
<Lovestarr> you are a kid ultima.. get with the program..
<Feverglow> anger towards loved ones that i did not want to feel
<ultima> but it saying in zeta talk
<Lovestarr> outside influences maybe feverglow?
<Feverglow> i had no idea where it came from   but now i do
<ultima> kids lead the adults
<ultima> the zeta see some light
<ultima> its in their eytes
<Cruithne> even before light there was the word .{sound}
<Lovestarr> :)
<Zetapal> if anything tries to take control of you,my recommendation would be to resist it,but as for my experience with zetatalk I would say it has been very above board spiritually and quite thought provoking,I would recommend it
<ultima> but they cannot see the full picture
<Feverglow> yea  i was never aware of it before   i thought maybe i was just an angry kid  disgusted with everything and everybody
<ultima> i have experanced it
<ultima> now every nite, they try to get me
<morko> just had silly idea. good/golden middle way/bad=3dimensions, 4th dimension is those three as one making it 4th... gotta get something to eat..
<ultima> but i give them a dose of love
<ultima> :)
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<Lovestarr> when you know the source it is easier to handle..
<ultima> ;)
<Cruithne> i can always hear the sound
<Zetapal> if you say so then it must be true? is that all you present?
<Feverglow> then i heard Heidi talk about Cafth   and  what he says makes alot of sense
<ultima> 6th dimention zeta re ashcar fleret
<ultima> they are verry kind
<Lovestarr> there are no zetas in 6th D
<ultima> yes there are
<Feverglow> Cafth said spirituality helps more than anything
<ultima> you all must meet them
<ultima> and there is greater lover there
<ultima> meet the devine
<ultima> meet your self in love
<ultima> kill the 4ds
<Zetapal> perhaps you are afraid of something which is affecting your perception ultima, have you given much thought to that possibility?
<ultima> they are evil
<Lovestarr> i think you might be right zetapal...
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<ultima> what have i given to myself, allot, what have i given to others allot more, what have i given to the zetas more love then enything
<ultima> before or after
<ultima> cant you see :)
<ultima> hes crying becase u are awakrning
<ultima> kill the zeta now
<ultima> kill it know
<ultima> it is evil
<ultima> i know it speaks
<ultima> but destroy it say no
<ultima> take power
<ultima> and say, i need help not from the zeta
<Cruithne> i was told the most powerful force is love
<ultima> but from the love of all creation
<RayS> I'm not meaning to but in but i've found that most people, even those that say they know don't see the full, big or complete picture of the types of sensient life in the universe. IMO.. There are only two camps those that value all life to as sacred as there own and those that don't, Period.
<ultima> yes
<ultima> it had bullets of flowers
<RayS> life to > life to be
<ultima> and there are the inbetween
<Lovestarr> white and dark shirts so to speak ray?
<ultima> the inbetween
<ultima> can be loved
<ultima> and changed
<Supervizor> ultima: 1. you talk about love, then you speak about killing? How's that to fit together?
<ultima> love kills bad
<ultima> but negatives
<ultima> can only run away from love
<Zetapal> you seem too eager to convince others of what you percieve,this does not help your credibility...if your beliefs are firm and well supported then you have no need to convince anyone of anything,much less that you ae their friend or that you are telling them the truth etc. If your thoughts are provoking enough then they don't need your "sales pitch"
<Feverglow> killing by loving is not really killing is it??
<Cruithne> RayS, yes einstein said that either 1 wakes up & sees the miracle or they don't
<ultima> becase they know that if they stay then they will change
<ultima> i belive that other can change
<ultima> i dont tell them to
<ultima> i just show them away out
<ultima> not like i tell them to
<ultima> i show them what it is not to see zeta
<Supervizor> ultima: So why are they saying a shift is coming (the Z's) (sorry if answered before, I wasn't watching..)
<ultima> but to see love in its full power
<ultima> zetapal you feel that love  to
<Cruithne> love is illusive
<ultima> becasue they do not know the love, they must find it in them selfs if they wish
<Zetapal> you haven't answered my question ultima...
<ultima> love destryos planet x
<ultima> yes i have
<ultima> but your zeta reqires
<ultima> more
<ultima> desnt he
<Lovestarr> love destroys the oncoming train?
<RayS> white and dark shirts exactly, when people talk of shade of grey, I've found its because they don't have the courage or will to make a complete and final chose. That's why we are going to have these "Troubled Times". to force us to see ourselves and to force us to make a decision.
<ultima> the zeta are never satified till they have full conrtol
<Supervizor> ultima: Don't you mean that love transfers us to 4th Density, so there is no effect of Planet X. So is there a Planet X or not?
<ultima> so we must stand up
<Lovestarr> RAY... i agree.. i can accept 5/15/3 but i am not fond of zetas
<ultima> evolve and know our rights as humans
<RayS> chose= choose
<ultima> and the galatic force
<Zetapal> No I don't think you did, Your not a very good listener ultima.
<ultima> we are the last hope for the zeta
<Cruithne> what is the # of tagged people in world by aliens
<ultima> and nor are u zetapal
<Zetapal> you are pontificating
<RayS> choose= choice...sorry:)
<ultima> and you are lying to your self
<ultima> the choice is yours
<Feverglow> Cafth(Heidi) was talking about different beings coming from all over the universe to fight evil vs. good??
<Feverglow> here at Earth
<Zetapal> what evidence do you have to support that claim ultima?
<ultima> well do you have love
<ultima> if u lack love
<ultima> then you lack something else
<ultima> if you have your so called balacne
<ultima> then you have hatew
<ultima> :)
<ultima> ;)
<ultima> cant you all see
<ultima> love wins
<Zetapal> you made the statement
<ultima> hate dies
<Zetapal> don't evade
<Supervizor> But how can the Z's succed if only a couple of 100 people belive in them. I don't think that number will increase, not even that much, if there really was a 10. planet.
<ultima> but
<ultima> they proclaim false mericals
<RayS> I think the choice has nothing to do with the zetas only with us and like all things.. if the zetas are more advanced than us I'm sure someone more advanced than them are watching over them as well. The cycle does not stop with the zetas, they were not even the first to reveal it... :)
<ultima> it says that in the human bibles
<Feverglow> ever since i started fighting the hate that i feel inside of me, i don't worry about the evil things as much
<ultima> the prophers saw that :)
<ultima> good you are all making progress :) love my freinds the light is fading
<Zetapal> if you really want to converse...I suspect not...you want an audience to agree with unsupported or explained statements to perhaps prop up an invalid ego illusion of yourself...you think?
<ultima> and we must make
<ultima> it strong
<Supervizor> So is that true that Native Americans also se Planet X aproching, or is that untrue? If true, are they also brainwashed by the Z's?
<ultima> no i want the audiance to feel 2 different sides
<ultima> like you u are undcecided
<morko> shouldn't you accept and embrace your negativity and intergrate it in you? as an part that has it's "good" points too like construtive criticism etc etc etc...
<RayS> gee, Ultima, thanks for seeing my progress in only 30 minets..:)
<Feverglow> time for us all to look inside of ourselves to our hearts, regardless of what facts are telling us
<ultima> but they have a choice of 3, i dont force them to take any of them up
<ultima> they all are choices
<ultima> and they can choose if they wish
<Cruithne> the sound of silence
<Lovestarr> Morko.. you have a good point there...
<Lovestarr> left & right... yin...yang..
<RayS> okay I knoe I typed minites wrong again...:)
<RayS> oops.
<ultima> and the choice is ours to take
<ultima> i have joind the light
<Lovestarr> ray... texas is supposed to go under water...?
<Supervizor> (Any recomenden reading on these topics?)
<ultima> so its up to you, i dont want to force you all, so chose if not then i l;eave it up to u all :) love remebr love is the best weapon
<Cruithne> i thought i was certain once
<Cruithne> alas
<Lovestarr> try red elk supervizor...
<Feverglow> the secret war by Heidi Hollis
<Lovestarr> he has good points.. native american.. they know all about PX...
<Feverglow> haven't read it yet  but hope to soon
<Supervizor> cool! thanx!
<Feverglow> www.ufo2u.com  (secret war)
<Lovestarr> www.spectrumnews10.com has a good interview with him...
<Cruithne> i only like war movies
<Supervizor> (are already on it's way to "favorites"..)
<Lovestarr> zetas are out to save a civilization ..theirs...
<RayS> I have a place elsewhere at sufficient elevation... I've been planning and doing for years.
<Zetapal> duality...good and evil,light and dark...the presence of polar opposites is a sign that you have entered a new field of referrence and are gaining insight as to the boundaries associated with that field.It is however only the beginning of understanding/mastery of that field...
<ultima> understading what is this
<morko> mayas now _lot_ too about this coming change. study tzolkin.
<Zetapal> once the boundaries are defined then the individual plots a course...
<Cruithne> RayS, doing what
<morko> know...
<ultima> the zeta they think they know all, but they only know little, we think we know all but we know little to that  of aliens
<Lovestarr> have somewhat Morko...
<Zetapal> through the field until the next fiels is reached...
<Lovestarr> the roads lead to Rome..er...PX...
<ultima> animals think they kow all but know litle to humans
<Cruithne> people r animals too
<Feverglow> yeop
<Zetapal> duality is not a place to stop growth and proclaim to the world...
<ultima> see so we dont know all
<Lovestarr> bookmarked it feverglow...
<Feverglow> ive found what Heidi and Cafth say very comforting
<ultima> but to grow is to attain love, i care not for joing evil, but to change evil, and more to help others
<Cruithne> i feel in love with god
<Lovestarr> fever, what was the source of the dissension?
<ultima> then you are in love with others, because we are all aspects of GOD :)
<Feverglow> ? havent read the book yet
<ultima> so love
<ultima> and do not hate:)
<ultima> ;)
<Zetapal> "I have found the answer!" "Follow me.follow my words"...it is a place to instead realize that you are yet again after much travail only again at the beginning...
<Lovestarr> animosities subsiding fever?
<Feverglow> but they talk about shadow beings that influnenece people to do bad things
<Cruithne> my god has no form
<Supervizor> Sonds ultima had read a bit theosphy too... :)
<ultima> shadow beings, again most are zeta
<Lovestarr> their veil is lifting i think fever..
<Zetapal> in this way we grow more and more.on and on until...
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<ultima> we continue to grow, but we can allso choose
<ultima> we can choose
<morko> and you continue to judge.
<Feverglow> shadows in humans too???
<ultima> i dont want to judge
<Feverglow> maybe the shadows make us judge
<Lovestarr> not sure fever... but mass consciousness is raising a little i think..
<ultima> yes, we are all evil in some repects, even i zeta pal have still some evil, but it shall soon fade :)
<morko> and i was judging you when saying that ;)
<Lovestarr> judge not... etc...
<Feverglow> it certainly feels like ive been influenced by something that isnt my soul
<Cruithne> i have seen ufo
<ultima> we are all part of juding others, that is part of the creator
<Feverglow> ive never seen a ufo or an alien
<Lovestarr> think of yourself as content fever and see how others look to wreck it...
<Zetapal> ultima you show the signs of not knowing what you are talking about.
<Feverglow> but ive always been interested
<ultima> i show the sings n=if love
<Lovestarr> everyday at work i feel the coldness of depraved hearts
<ultima> and my typing is beeing forced by negatives, to try to stop this
<Zetapal> I don't argue
<Supervizor> Evil = Egoistic / Silfisness. So nobody really is evil, they are just egocentric.. Than, you can speak about evil..
<Feverglow> but ive had a dream about a shadow being chasing me aorund    i was terrified
<Lovestarr> fever.. you should believe more in yourself.. be in control..
<ultima> dont be scared just love
<Feverglow> yea im starting to see that
<Lovestarr> a few months ago i woke up trying to shew some away..
<Lovestarr> oddly enough
<Cruithne>  a dream to some ..a niTemare to others
<Feverglow> its the fear and anger that these shadows use to their advantage
<Lovestarr> yep
<ultima> just say no, and tell them you love them, and if they try o paralise you, love and get up and hug them
<Lovestarr> i woke up swinging...
<morko> they should rename this to yodatalk ;)
<Feverglow> i floated twice in my sleep too
<Lovestarr> no shit.. love, love love... all you need is love..
<ultima> here is something to get them away
<Feverglow> out of body maybe?
<ultima> get a stick from some place nature, and cast light magic from lovew onto it
<Lovestarr> probably not fever...
<ultima> and then put it in your bed room
<Feverglow> thnks
<Feverglow> thanks
<ultima> see you all see the light, you are awakerning to that of what was hidden to your eyes before
<Lovestarr> mind over matter.. you want to explore...
<Feverglow> i agree
<RayS> uh.. okay... my advive to anyone having night terrors is to see a doctor first. They are known to be brought on by cetrain food alergies and chemical imbalances, looking for more esoteric reasons should be saved until you've ruled out the common.
<Feverglow> waking up
<ultima> yes love with the mine over negative matter
<Lovestarr> we all want more out of life than day to day work & boredom...
<Cruithne> i was had a dream of falling into the bottomless pit in side of me..
<RayS> advive'advice.
<Cruithne> i've not been the same since
<Lovestarr> wake up call cruit?
<Feverglow> im still somewhat skeptical   but  you can't ignore what you feel in your heart
<Cruithne> it's true
<Supervizor> ultima: I don't think people really began to se the light, cause the most people here are a bit sceptic about everything, also ZetaTalk (as far as I have noticed.)
<Zetapal> sure you can
<Zetapal> I'm not advocating it
<Lovestarr> fever... follow your heart with a level head maybe??
<Zetapal> but you certainly can
<Feverglow> personally Cafth's words have helped me
<Zetapal> your suckling
<Feverglow> i dont feel as scared or lost as i was    
<ultima> you can feel what your heart tell you, zetas are nice as well, but they have troubles they suffer immence tramau, but dont give in to what trauma they try to give u
<Feverglow> but im just 19  so im probaly supposed to be lost anyway
<Lovestarr> lol...
<Zetapal> its an emotional patch job remenisant of mother's care thats all
<Lovestarr> part of finding out what matters and what doesn't
<ultima> lost, or found keep your ground you will soon find soon the holy ground
<Feverglow> yea i agree
<Cruithne> i was told i'm in the middle of eternaty but wonder if it's the "middle"
<Lovestarr> man has lost direction on priorities in life perhaps..
<Feverglow> all i want to do is just appreciate everything
<morko> is quetzalcoatl coming back?
<Cruithne> i just wanna be a beggar
<Feverglow> my friend talks about how he just wants to be a consious existance
<Lovestarr> just the beginning cruit?
<Zetapal> then you will, IF thats what you REALLY want
<ultima> see you are all awkaernining to the atlantic grid, the ascar grid and most of all love from the usionverce
<ultima> :)
<Zetapal> bullshit
<Feverglow> i just wanna exist and see everything as Good  because it all exists and that is GOOD
<ultima> you are all visionaries
<Zetapal> bullshit
<Lovestarr> lol... fever... be practical now...
<Lovestarr> everything is not good..
<Supervizor> ultima, do you write on spiritweb.com (since you channel Pleadians)
<ultima> we are all to evole and you are getting closer
<Cruithne> lol
<Feverglow> i agreee everything is not good    but maybe everything was in the begiinning
<morko> everything was black in the beginning?
<Lovestarr> think things got botched kinda quickly at some point...
<Zetapal> we may all have the capability...but ultima has no way of knowing which ones of us are visionaries..
<Feverglow> im not saying that i love everything yet  but i respect it as existing instead of hating it
<Feverglow> its all here for a reason
<morko> which came first egg or chicken? eh..
<Cruithne> it's up to people now, what to do
<Lovestarr> i hate mosquitos...
<Feverglow> me too
<Lovestarr> the cock came first..
<Feverglow> those bloodsuckers
<Zetapal> i love icecream
<IQx> look who's back
<IQx> =P
<IQx> hello All
<Lovestarr> hey IQx
<Feverglow> maybe saying dislike instead of hate   is better
<Feverglow> ??
<Cruithne> i like the  www.hiddenmeanings.com site it taught me alot
<IQx> hi cmel, Cruithne, Jenkins3d, Lovestarr, Malakai, Ogmios, sirgrim, Zetapal, zod and all the rest
<IQx> =)
<Zetapal> hi IQx
<RayS> mosquitos and ice cream..... good something practical we can talk about...
<Supervizor> Hi, IQx, why have you made your page, so that it is unredable on most browsers :(
<Cruithne> lol
<morko> just like making bad things less bad by making new nicer names to them..
<ultima> where are we got side tracked
<ultima> somethings i had to do
<IQx> Supervizor: hows so ?
<ultima> lol still there
<Lovestarr> hear you there morko.. the politically correct crowd...
<ultima> umm
<Zetapal> RayS I will endeavor to meet you at what ever level possible
<RayS> got any ideas on mosquito management post shift?
<ultima> so tell me what have u all learnt today?
<Lovestarr> are they edible ray??
<IQx> Supervizor: whats the address you use to go to the website ?
<Zetapal> I've learned that ultima is full of shit,so to speak
<Supervizor> I have IE 5.5 and since you have changed the "design" the inline html-page just displays a "page can't be shown" message
<Lovestarr> lol.. zetapal.. be nice now...
<ultima> zetapal need more time :(
<RayS> mosquitos? not unless toyr very disease resistant.
<Supervizor> iqx.t35.com
<Feverglow> yea
<IQx> Supervizor: you must know that the address has changed
<ultima> love beats the planet x
<ultima> so no fears
<Cruithne> the quickest way to eradicate anything is {mosquito} is put price on their head
<IQx> Supervizor: its iqx.cjb.net now - try that
<IQx> ;)
<Feverglow> i hope
<Zetapal> I'm being truthful not nice or the other
<Supervizor> thanx, i will :)
<IQx> Supervizor: no problem, if you can, please tell the others about it =) thanks
<ultima> we must be in truth, nice to others, and in love
<Feverglow> Cafth said that we are all equal in the source
<ultima> then we can change others
<Zetapal> bullshit ultima
<Feverglow> equality=love
<ultima> no its the truth
<Supervizor> I'll do..
<ultima> and u know it
<Zetapal> thats a choice not an obligation
<RayS> you can't eradicate because they are neccessary to the biosphere in which they occur.
<Lovestarr> feverglow.. maybe we are not???
<ultima> and equlity = to love nad care for toehrs :)
<Lovestarr> maybe there are haves and have nots..
<RayS> resistance is the most you can do
<Feverglow> ?!
<Cruithne> things have all ready been eradicated
<morko> i wish we could see the bigger picture and get over this mambo jambo..
<ultima> we are changing history now
<Lovestarr> well.. there are those who believe and those who don't
<ultima> we are seeing the bigger picture
<IQx> bbl all
<IQx> cya
<Lovestarr> and those who never did and never will...
<ultima> the love lights, the love heavens, the love planes
<ultima> :)
<RayS> and those eradications have caused damage that were are only now realizing.
<Cruithne> i think they were essential some how to eco
<Supervizor> bye IQx
<RayS> bye
<Lovestarr> bye
<ultima> bye IQx love be with you :)
<ultima> we will go back to a time of primitiveness, from the planet x i dont know, but i know that it iwll be a time with anture, and love :) cant you all feel it?
<Zetapal> and when and if I choose to love it will be my responsibility and my credit,If I choose to hate it will be my responsibility and it will credit an appropriate account,but it will not be an obligation
<Feverglow> not trying to force anybody to accept anything, but if you want to learn more about what i think ultima is talking about?:)! trying reading what Cafth talks about
<ultima> its calling, and we will recive it :)
<Lovestarr> love not with you but within you...
<Supervizor> I'll guess I'm going to. Bye ALL!
<Feverglow> www.ufo2u.com
<Lovestarr> bye supervisor
<Feverglow> if you want
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<Cruithne> i'm staying
<ultima> love is part of our souls correct
<ultima> and its is with us becase we give love to others
<Lovestarr> love, love, love.. all you need is love.. the year i think was 1968
<Lovestarr> ultima, you weren't born yet...
<ultima> times, and now, we are reaching the age of aquarious again
<RayS> uh, Ultima how about a little bio about yourself.
<Zetapal> you presume what is correct...that we all do...but ultima you presume it enough to tell others what is...thats your flaw
<ultima> we are nearly there all we need is that wonderfull word love
<ultima> and care
<Feverglow> i agree
<Cruithne> the idea of feeling N matter is incredible
<Lovestarr> you have a point zetapal...
<Zetapal> and you don't listen well - I submit
<Feverglow> i only hope im capable of it when it counts
<ultima> i have flaws yes i am not perfect, but we all have falws
<ultima> that is why we are nature
<Cruithne> 9i don't
<morko> yeah. but you are making that love now so sweet that i wouldn't mind some bitterness too..
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<ultima> bitterness lets, see well thats the oprsite to love its sour
<Lovestarr> RAY... he is almost 15 years old...
<ultima> (i dont mind sour, but i dont like sour emotion)
<ultima> :)
<RayS> I'm just asking so I know at what level I can speak on these issues.
<ultima> here is a light spell for all of you to love
<Lovestarr> it is like being lectured by your kids...
<Zetapal> then why presume on others ultima? why not be humble enough to shut the f up like other well meaning people around you,when it comes to supposing reality .why state everything as fact- your full of it I submit for your consideration
<Feverglow> ultima  i dont want to try a tell you what to do, but i think you might be interested in what Cafth says
<ultima> the light is therefor you to see, open your eyes its there its a tree, its there in your eyes its in your soul, so open your heart and thats to be told
<Lovestarr> zetapal, you might not be so bad afterall...
<Cruithne> i was told if not 4 the grace of god there goes i ..i understood
<ultima> then let others talk
<ultima> i have to leave soon
<Zetapal> noones being bitter-you need to hear this for your own good thats love ultima
<morko> what makes your good widely accept christ pasifism love thy enemy thing ridicilous is that how you are ranting so much about it.. and dividing things too much perhaps..
<RayS> good ridence...
<ultima> i love thy enermies, and i love the zeta for i have felt there bitterness, and it was not good, so i chose a different way out :)
<Lovestarr> in 1 week?
<Lovestarr> last week you were channeling them...
<ultima> yes
<ultima> but i changed
<ultima> i was changed i birthed out a new
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<RayS> I'm thinking this is why I stopped on zeta talk. Where is the moderator?
<Lovestarr> well, it takes longer than a week..
<morko> so is channeling music and kundalini good by your standards?
<Zetapal> of course not Lovestarr - I'm just not interested in winning anyone over unlike some others,that is the root of politics which is a form of manipulation and thats not love
<ultima> all chaneling is good, its just what you do with it
<ultima> i have to go
<ultima> love :)
<Feverglow> :)
<ultima> see you all next week
<Lovestarr>  bye
<ultima> or in the week if u come on :)
<Cruithne> photons r particles of light that carry messages
<Cruithne> yes meassges
<ultima> love to all in powers, i give you all that i can to hel pyou evio;ve :)
<ultima> bye
<ultima> cyea all
<RayS> Ultima. I Don't know you, your background or anything about you, but you need some real religous counseling or maybe a psych. sorry but its MOO.
<Zetapal> noones your enemy here ultima - grow up and stop reacting to what is being presented to you and consider for real-you are not being honest about your motives/either that or you don't know any better
<Lovestarr> Zetapal.. those who try to convince others are often not so sure themselves
<Feverglow> Cafth says that we have all of the answers that we need inside of us  but its up to find them
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<Jenkins3d> My mom says that the zetas are stupid
<Cruithne> o/k
<RayS> your mom is right... so why are you on this chat?
<Lovestarr> lol
<morko> My cat's breath smells like cat food..
<RayS> this was always supposed to be for zetatalk and troubled_times...
<Lovestarr> i thought it was the 'love hour' there...
<Cruithne> who is the most loved person on earth
<Jenkins3d> i dont know...i mean i just thought a nonsencial comment went along with what everyone else was sayong
<Lovestarr> Jesus?
<morko> george w bush? osama?
<RayS> he he...
<Cruithne> i think j.lennon was once
<Feverglow> i love my dog
<Cruithne> but now don't know
<Jenkins3d> Ulimas was soooo much more fun last week
<Zetapal> indeed  Lovestarr - a good litmus test for anyone - we all have a negative reaction when we talk to a salesman cause we realize the motives for the interaction are dubious at best .. and here's the kicker..the person may not be aware of what they are doing/they may actually believe on some level that they are sincere...
<Lovestarr> or delusional...
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<Cruithne> alas
<Lovestarr> i am in sales Zetapal and agree with you...
<morko> he was pushing it too much..
<Cruithne> i only value 2 opinons mine & gods
<Lovestarr> i hate sales people...
<Cruithne> i did say mine 1st
<Feverglow> i dont think he was trying to force anything on anybody
<RayS> so is anyone following public trends and reations to our world's situations?
<Lovestarr> as little as possible..
<Cruithne> yes spend now
<Feverglow> he was just trying to help
<Zetapal> but the are supporting an ego based vision of themself which needs your ear,needs your approval,needs your support...why,? cause it doesn't sustain itself...
<Lovestarr> yep
<Lovestarr> there are positive and negative forces at work...
<Cruithne>  yippie
<Feverglow> Fire In The Sky is on tv tonight
<Zetapal> it doesn't sustain itself because the ego IS an illusion,,,a vision of the self born out of fear
<Zetapal> and sustained by it
<Lovestarr> know thyself??
<Jenkins3d> im gonna go now..., I cant take the love anymore
<Zetapal> lol
<morko> yeah you can, just dont kill someone with it.
<Zetapal> Jenkins I could oblige you the other way if you like  lol
<Jenkins3d> thats ok
<RayS> bye jen...
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<Jenkins3d> cya later
<Lovestarr> bye
<morko> bye
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<Lovestarr> so RAY, where did you make your stash locale?
<Cruithne> only a miracle can save us now
<morko> isn't being alive a miracle?
<Cruithne> y e s
<morko> so we are saved! yippee!
<Cruithne> but what's coming can is what i speak of
<RayS> think i'm leaving too. Unless there is someone who wants to discuss preparation for the shift and has some solar panel experience...?
<Zetapal> everyone follow me,this is how it is,you need to hear me,I am not the student iam the teacher...litmus test says...bullshit..Iam both teacher AND student and I will exemplify both qualities on the chat line...thus sayeth me
<RayS> here here
<Lovestarr> yes
<Lovestarr> live and learn
<Cruithne> i find it hard to believe that anyone hear hasn't seen a conscous shift  occur
<morko> what you mean by that?
<Lovestarr> i think you are right cruit...
<Cruithne> well it's still changing & only a miracle can save us
<Lovestarr> i perceive that in society too...
<Lovestarr> there is an expectation of 'something'
<RayS> bye bye everybody.:)
<Lovestarr> bye RAY..welcome back
<Zetapal> I am always willing to admit "I don't know" I think I do to a degree of course...that's healthy...but I have no agenda for others...experience has taught me that every path is different and all my learning comes from others therefore a series of theories or viewpoints is not someting to become personally attached to or hide behind...when it comes down to it I stand before you as...
<Cruithne> i don't know what to make of it
<Lovestarr> it is not a good feeling i think
<RayS> thank you, but I'll probably go back to just chating on Troubled_times. see ya there.
<Lovestarr> fear of the unknown?
<Lovestarr> bye
<morko> zetapal, well said.
<Cruithne> for some a dream others a niTemare
<Lovestarr> no.. i think there are concentrated negative vibes being used to distort our perception of reality
<Zetapal> a complete equal,naked and bare but carrying the mystery of the universe in me both discovered and yet undiscovered...and if you thinks its funny that I present myself as naked or unknowing,don't laugh to soon cause I know that you are naked too...
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<Zetapal> the difference is...maybe you don't know it yet and I do
<Zetapal> selah
<Zetapal> thank you...and now for our next comedian I's like to bring out a very funny man your gonna love him...
<Zetapal> a fool is known by the multitude of his words...
<Zetapal> tap tap...is this mike on...
<Zetapal> your a lovely crowd ,lovely crowd...
<Zetapal> take my wife ... please
<Zetapal> three legged dog walks into a saloon...
<Zetapal> he saddles up to the bar and says...
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<Zetapal> "I'm lookin for the man who shot my paw..."
<Zetapal> anyway
<Cruithne> the only clue to safety is the earth change maps
<Cruithne> thet r all similar
<Zetapal> most earth change maps only show inundation at some point and time,I've got em all over my wall here
<Cruithne> yes
<Cruithne> what is the oldest 1
<Zetapal> Scallion,I AM AMERICA,zetas...
<Cruithne> the map 1st given by visionary
<Cruithne> what year was that
<Zetapal> but they show nothing of seismic activity,mountain building,fire from sky etc etc
<Zetapal> little info on them when you think about it
<Cruithne> cayce maps r from 30's
<Zetapal> yeah prob cayce
<Zetapal> I don't have that one
<Cruithne> oh
<Zetapal> he was first though
<Cruithne> as far as i know
<Zetapal> yeah I believe so
<Cruithne> he spoke of pole shift too u know?
<Zetapal> yeah
<Cruithne> from 30's
<Zetapal> but I think even he said that prophecy was not his main ministry..it was retrieving medical info for specific cases while in trance state
<Cruithne> not mediacl but what ever was needed to help
<Zetapal> this he did alot with documented success in bizare cases which doctors couldn't cure
<Cruithne> including medical physical. mental, spirtual
<Cruithne> well any way the point i make is here is 1st case about pole shift maps
<Cruithne> way back then
<Zetapal> right...there was even one sick guy who he directed to sleep with a dead fish on his wound for like a couple weeks...cured him
<Cruithne> lol
<Cruithne> also he didn't mininster he went into sleep some say trance
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<Cruithne> & dication was used to record what he said
<butch> hello
<Zetapal> hi butch
<Zetapal> hows it goin?
<butch> hey Zetapal, pretty good ..you?
<Zetapal> can't complain...considering
<Zetapal> lol
<butch> anything interesting in today's zt??? i missed it ..
<Cruithne> nope
<Cruithne> she didn't say that shoe has landed & what it was yet
<Zetapal> it wasn"t what I'd call an extravaganza...let's see
<Zetapal> source of mysterious murders of top microbiologists of late...
<Zetapal> uhh
<Zetapal> what else Cruith?
<Cruithne> & crop circles stuff
<butch> yeah, i 've read about the scientists deaths...too many to be coincidental...
<Cruithne> i always say anonomity is best
<Zetapal> more on the message behind crop circles and why they aren't more obvious
<Cruithne> px has my full attention these days
<sirgrim> i think i have a log of last weeks session, this weeks, and everything inbetween if you wanna read today's chat
<sirgrim> http://wagd.com/logs/zetatalk.txt
<Cruithne> i figure if all's well next summer the off to ft. lauderdale
<Zetapal> join the club
<Zetapal> it's been three years for me now
<Cruithne> 3 years what
<Zetapal> 3 years with my full attention on px
<Cruithne> when i understood the indians ghost dance i realizwed the similarity to christians thinking the messiah was coming to save them
<Cruithne> alas
<Cruithne> i wonder where that comes from
<Cruithne> looking for a saviour
<Zetapal> you know the indians hold that white calf prophecy in high regard too...which has happened
<Cruithne> the most ironic part is the saviour never comes
<Cruithne> lol
<sirgrim> yea, been like 5 albino buffalos in the last 5 years
<sirgrim> which surpasses the ammount in the last couple thousand i believe
<Zetapal> yeah unless of course you could somehow consider px the savior...which I could see how
<Zetapal> you got it sirgrim,kinda blows the lid off that one huh?
<sirgrim> yea
<sirgrim> and recent weather and government reactions have been funny
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<Zetapal> yeah speakin of one happening of late...another train derailment possibly due to buckling track as posted by one of our clan over in TTwatch this week...
<butch> yeah..read about that..
<Zetapal> I thought that one a real eye opener...bumpin up the credibility meter a couple of notches in my opinion...
<Zetapal> you know they wouldn't have been building railroads for the last,what 70-80 years if they had that problem back then
<Zetapal> am I mistaken or was that two derailments in two weeks possibly due to buckling track - first in florida and then england?
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<Zetapal> also I thought the zs explaination of black water was a good one - even moreso that the govt or scientists haven't provided an explanation yet and its very underreported
<butch> i broke down and bought a little telescope today...60mm 2.4" refracting...was 150 bucks at the walmart...
<Zetapal> cool
<Zetapal> really
<Zetapal> kind of exciting
<Zetapal> now you have something to do instead of sitting around nervousely twitching your fingers
<butch> yeah...supposedly the best time for viewing it will be late summer, when orion will be from behind the sun..
<Zetapal> yeah glad you brought that up...question
<butch> you still in richmond, Zetapal?
<Zetapal> how you gonna see it if its behind the sun-at night you'll be facing the other way right?
<Zetapal> yup you remembered-you the guy in sandston butch?
<Zetapal> basically
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<butch> got booted
<butch> i've moved to west virginia, Zetapal
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<Zetapal> back from batroom break
<Zetapal> wow really? good for you you might stand a chance there butch
<Zetapal> anywhere near charleston?
<butch> hope so...
<butch> yep...about 50 miles south
<Zetapal> good
<Zetapal> very good butch
<Zetapal> per the zs you know how the scene plays out right?
<butch> and if it doesn't happen...i'll live a good life up here...man, this place is so beautiful...;0
<Zetapal> I know it is - I lived in Blacksburg for 4 yrs 83-87 while in school,saw the country-my favorite type of scenic
<Zetapal> I love all those mountains not just a little bit
<Zetapal> take the city and the beach...give me the blue ridge anyday
<Zetapal> cold ass winters is the only bitch
<Zetapal> hop on that keyboard man I wanna chat with you about somethin specific...when your ready...
<butch> sorry...just got up for a sec..
<Zetapal> first of all about the scope...really cool...but
<Zetapal> how are you supposed to see orion if it around or near the sun,at night won't you be facin the other way?
<Zetapal> twilight or dusk viewing maybe?
<butch> i'll need to check on exact proper viewing conditions...i am an novice big time...i can pick out the easy constellations like big dipper ...
<Zetapal> yeah I'm green to astronomy too
<butch> yeah...much to learn in a short amount of time..
<Zetapal> listen I wanna mention the shift scenario with you for a sec OK?
<butch> k
<Zetapal> I have recently been looking over that safe locations pdf document off the site...really goin over it..makin sure I got it straight for exactly what gonna happen right here for this local...
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<butch> according to zt ...richmond is f*cked...
<Zetapal> all along the east coast especially the more southern states...as the crust starts to break free from the mantle the atlantic plate is stretched while on the pacic coast the plate is compressed...
<butch> yeah
<Zetapal> as this stretching happens before the crust breaks free the east coast is actually pulled down about 150 lower than it is now...
<Zetapal> along with this the water is biginning to build up on that side of the globe...
<Zetapal> the net result is that richmond and all cities up to the blue ridge are inundated completely...
<Zetapal> now..me I'm screwed but lets talk about your situation for a sec...
<butch> yeah...i kinda had an imagination the other day , about seeing just the federal reserve building and the james center towers , still sticking outta the water...gave me goosebumps...
<Spanky> high level STO populations are usually located in areas where survival is most likely.
<Spanky> So what is the explanation behind holland?
<Zetapal> given that due to the intense heat on this side of the globe for the three days of rotation stoppage the zetas say that many people in this area having boats will take to the water partly to escape the heat...
<Zetapal> and the chesapeak bay will protect them to some degree from very large waves during the shift...
<Spanky> wont most boats be capsized during the shift anyway?
<butch> yeah, and outta that you're gonna see pirate fleets form kinda like a "waterworld type of thing" i would imagine...mad max on the water...:/
<Spanky> maybe the elite will board aircraft carriers and maybe even their yachts.
<butch> yeah, i imaging even with the sloshing water...a good size boat could ride it out maybe...
<Zetapal> the net result of this they say is that after the shift a floating armada of survivors will land on the coast of the blue ridge (that sounds funny doesn't it) and make their way inland in to west virginia demanding to be fed/supplies etc
<Zetapal> this presents a unique problem for your local given you do survive shift/ie the possibility of hundreds or thousands of displaced ravenous survivors invading your homestead...
<butch> well...i hope that i'm remote enough( i think i am..;) ) that we won't have to worry about that much...i suspect they will try to get to charleston or some such...they can have it i' m way out in the stick...;)
<Zetapal> I just wanted to point this out to you,to make sure your aware of the potentiality right?  comments?
<Spanky> build yourself a sub out of a crate.
<Spanky> anchor it shallow so that you don't have pressure problems.
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<butch> another thing too...we know the terrain up here ...they don't ..lots of folks with firearms here too..and ain't affraid to use them if necessary...
<Spanky> its a wonder the elite have not tried this, build their own "gungan city".  If anchored right, with chains instead of solid supports, it would work like a womb
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<Zetapal> 'm glad you moved when you did butch it should give you time to integrate into the community(even if small) and not be considered an "outsider" when/if the shit hits the fan
<Zetapal> darn
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<Zetapal> damn that aol connection huh?
<butch> bad internet connections up here...:P
<butch> *&^%$ aol..
<butch> anyway...did you catch that last bit??
<Zetapal> I was just sayin I'm glad you moved when you did,should give you time to integrate into your community even if its small so you be considered an "outsider" when the shit hits the fan IF it does
<Zetapal> about knowing the terrain? yeah good point
<Zetapal> so you won't be...
<PottM> So how was the weekly chat tonight?
<butch> yeah...the cities that are left will be the places to avoid...
<Zetapal> yeah I guess but not just the cities I guess is my point if you live east of the blue ridge, city or no city...your swimmin
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<Spanky> you might be alone, considering no one would believe you right up until it happened.
<butch> that's my take on it too...
<Zetapal> hey maybe by the end of summer you'll be able to sight that big red bastard huh?
<Spanky> head up to alberta, canada.  Its the safest geographically
<butch> i'm gonna try...:)
<Spanky> most people will accept the explanation that it's a nova (after all, the news never lies, right?)
* butch laughs...all new is true right??;)
<butch> news
<Spanky> its like an argument my mom and I had about cattle mutilations.  She was going on about it was most likely satanic cults.
<Zetapal> Spank what I've done is tell people around me about this and what they will see 7weeks before so that when they see it at least then they'll believe me...but then perhaps they'll come to me and say what do we do now...and the way I feel is , well,now its too late you should have believed me when I told you...but I won't I give them some direction like head for the hills(wink butch) or somethin.
<Spanky> i told her that satanic cults can not make cuttings that accurate, why only cows and not animals that are easier to handle if that's the case,
<Zetapal> yeah its strange to see peoples mind working against you when your using logic because they don't WANT to believe
<butch> there lots of land here...although somewhat mountainous...;)
<Zetapal> frustrating like banging your head against a tree - at that point its pointless
<Spanky> the mountains you least expect will become active volcanoes.
<Spanky> the thing that worries me about my parents is that when it finally does happen, they will run right into the arms or wait for the "authorities" to help them.
<butch> Spanky...i'm hopeing i won't have to worry about that much.
<Zetapal> thats true of most areas but butch is on the blue ridge-very old formation-shouldn't blow - though there is a fault line I've heard elsewhere that runs along westvirginia/ketucky border or some such - might slip a little - but nothing like rocky mtns
<butch> yeah...i'm thinking too, that some good quakes would take out most of these roads up here ...
<Zetapal> speaking of that fault-in that area theres supposedly alot of natural gas - so much so that residence have there own natural gas wells on their own property
<Spanky> i wonder if areas with petroleum deposits are virtually sitting on a bomb, especially if they have been tapped by wells.
<butch> another possible hazard , yes, we heat and cook with natural gas...
<butch> i'm gonna cut off the main valve to the house before the shift...barring no major quakes before then...
<Zetapal> oh yeah roads forget it - but that might be a good thing as far as insulating you from a survivor onslaught - also butch you mentioned most trying to head for charleston or such,well,maybe,but my bet is they will be so disoriented and landing on the coast in the foothills that they'll just head west blindly
<butch> yep
<Zetapal> lol - butch are you sitting on top of a natural gas deposit?
<Spanky> the best thing to do would be to look at the evidence for humongous sinkholes near where there is already petroleum.
<Zetapal> sinkholes are a limestome quality yes? do you get petroleum/natural gas with limestone? I don't know.
<Spanky> i know next to nothing about geology
<Zetapal> one state's got alot of sinkholes/ I think Missouri, is that right?
<Spanky> florida
<butch> no natural gas....but lots of coal...
<Zetapal> forms alot of lakes and such
<Spanky> oil/gas is always under rock, isn't it?
<butch> yes Spanky
<Zetapal> I remember seeing something on rock types in US and it was one of those middle states not west-lots of sinkholes thousands due to the limestone-it erodes away easily/soft
<Spanky> does the pole shift ever bring NEW faultlines, cracks in the crust?
<Spanky> or were those formed while the earth was still cooling off?
<Zetapal> I'm sure it does Spanky to some degree due to fracturing but your main faults are gonna be where the major plates collide,coming off of that for maybe a thousand miles but major fissures both parallel and perpendicular to plate fault
<Spanky> i wonder why the aliens didn't use their gravity tech to put the 12th planet in stable orbit between mars and jupiter, for example.  If they can shift an entire planet into another dimension, couldn't they do that?
<Zetapal> the major fault in US is smack dab on coast of california not so for the eastern part of the country-the eastern end of the north american plate extends all the way out to the middle of the atlantic to the marianas trench(sp?)
<Spanky> another theory: The STS aliens slacked off on Earth because they figured the pole shifts and large carnivores did the job for them.
<Zetapal> first spanky the "aliens" aren't allowed to interfere in natural disasters which is what this event is considered by higher powers ( the council of worlds) also its not the zetas who will shift earth into 4th density,an operation like that is a major decision of the council,as far as the zetas go its way out of their jurisdiction and power - they're higher on the evolutionary scale than us and their "powers" are really just fancy te
<Zetapal> resulting in some fancy ships to go along with their 4th density abilities to levitate,shift into 3rd density for breif periods but thats all basically
<Spanky> they would probably need something the size of the Death Star to shift us into the 4th
<Zetapal> we're in kindegarden ,they are only in 3rd grade - this is stuff I've gathered from reading the material
<Spanky> some other channeled material says that by the time they reach 7th density, they exist outside of time and become one huge entity (god).  this happens at once with every entity the universe formed.
<Spanky> they do not tell lower density entities this because they would fear this as a type of "death"
<Zetapal> STS aliens slacked off? sounds like you might be getting STS aliens confused with the Nibirians they are the ones who left earth because it seemed like a swamp to them,it became too much trouble for them to stay
<butch> anyone get a head count today...how many here??
<Zetapal> 51 i heard
<Spanky> nah the earth has the highest STO count of entities compared to other planets.  The harsh conditions of this planet led to the STS anticipating a high count of entities and thus they concentrated on other worlds such as Nibiru.  STO aliens worked extra hard on the Earth because of this.
<Spanky> also lack of technology=lack of education=ignorance, fear, and hatred of the fellow man.
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<Spanky> this does not quite apply to water planets because it is harder for them to kill each other.
<Spanky> anyone still here?
<Zetapal> Spank I don't recognize any of the above from Zt
<Spanky> hence the part about "other channeled material"
<Zetapal> oh ok if you say so
<Spanky> you probably think i am channeling some bad peyote right now :)
<Zetapal> no I think if you start mixing zt with other stuff you might consider that what you end up with doesn't carry the credibility that the predictions lend to zetatalk alone, piggybacking is generally frowned upon as wishful thinking
<Zetapal> let me try this from a different angle...
<Zetapal> I have studied many works channeled material,Seth,Oahspe,A Course in Miracles,Bible,Cayce as well as zetatalk...
<Zetapal> even though some complain that zetatalk is not specific enough in this area or that,when one considers the scope of the work and the numerous topics covered and the fact that it answers practcal questions in todays life etc.it forms a model of understanding for me which is cohesive and extensive and it has balls too because predictions are made which can not only support it but should events transpire that way,prove it wrong...
<Zetapal> for this reason I bother with it...If the predictions don't come true then guess what...none of it is true...flush it down the toilet...so when I come to zetatalk I am prepared to talk about zetatalk and other ideas solely as "what ifs"
<Zetapal> not certainty...its all supposition...but zetatalk has its neck stuck out to be tried by its own predictions.That I respect,and for now puts it ahead of other channeled works until disproven.If its proven false I won't want to talk about any channeled crap cause who knows.So I'm prepared to talk about zetatalk primarily,thats why I'm here,none others.
<Zetapal> make sense?
<Zetapal> brb
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<Zetapal> doop-de-doo bump bump bump bum
<zod> hmmmme
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<Zetapal> hi radioguy
<RadioGuy> Hello
<Zetapal> you into radio I presume?
<RadioGuy> Yeah.  Broadcasting's been a career of mine, on and off over the years.
<Zetapal> oh great
<Zetapal> you have experience on air?
<Zetapal> you know voicework?
<RadioGuy> Yeah, mostly FM music formats.
<Zetapal> cool
<RadioGuy> Don't know voicework
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