Session Start: Sat Jun 15 12:25:29 2002
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<medfield> jenna j wooo sexy
<agentY> heh
<sirgrim> http://www.alienware.com/main/system_pages/area51-m.asp
<sirgrim> getting one of those and rigging it for solar
<medfield> looks cool
<medfield> alienware makes good stuff
<agentY> art tried to bag nancyc i heard
<agentY> bag = sex
<medfield> hhe
<medfield> go art
<agentY> nancy said art was too nuts for her
<agentY> hehehe
<agentY> medfield   how long u been on here??
<agentY> i saw u about ...13 hoursw ago
<medfield> running 4 days I think
<medfield> maybe 3
<agentY> i mean how long continuously at your puter?
<agentY> for last 13 hours??
<medfield> oh
<medfield> umm
<medfield> no
<medfield> I went to bed
<agentY> oh
<agentY> hehehe\
<agentY> ._.
<medfield> yup
<agentY> did anyone wank off after the show?
<agentY> or just me?
<agentY> hehehe
<medfield> masturbation isnt my thing anymore
<medfield> I use my brain instead
<agentY> oh i use borth
<agentY> both
<agentY> i have drank no pop for 2 weeks
<agentY> trying to eat heal;thy  since saturday as well
<agentY> last saturday
<medfield> milk and water for me
<medfield> but milk is getting old, good for cereal I suppose
<agentY> cereal yup
<agentY> when is chick coming on
<agentY> nanycy i ean
<agentY> mean
<medfield> 2 hours and 20 minutes I believe
<agentY> bbiaf  gonna do some laundry
<agentY> put stuff in washer
<agentY> hehehe
<medfield> have fun
<agentY> yeah
<agentY> ok
<agentY> bbiafr
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<S7L> chim-chimney-chim-chimney-chim-chim-cheree, samsara 2003.
<samsara2003> Chim-chim-arou to you s7l...lol
<samsara2003> What time is zetatalk again?
<samsara2003> I forget if it's at 4 or 5 CST
<S7L> in a few hours... 2 hours 13.
<samsara2003> I'll check back later...
<S7L> your nick simply reminded me a lot of that mary poppins son by the rhythm
<samsara2003> catch ya l8er
<S7L> cya.
<Zetapal> samsara the sea of suffering.
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<Boris> Hello World!
<Zetapal> hi boris
<Zetapal> whats happening?
<Boris> nothing...
<S7L> nothing is good. Nothing is reliable.
<S7L> with all the variables in today's world, total nihilism is the key to untold secrets.
<S7L> It occurs that me and gf must be the crouching tigger and hidden lion.
<Boris> but can you explain why is there something instead of nothing?
<S7L> that's because universe would probably be too boring.
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<medfield> what if there is nothing instead of something?
<medfield> we dont know we exist, we just know we are here
<S7L> that would be interesting, medfield.
<skeleton> hi
<skeleton> when does zt start?
<S7L> nothing for uncountable times, nothingness of existence from beginning to end, except there is neither.
<medfield> 2 hours I think
<S7L> 2 hours is approximately right.
<Boris> I think it's because "nothing" can't be defined without something, so nothing can't exist without something
<Zetapal> well, with all the input available,one certainly manages their attention, and returning to the base point to clear the mind is essential to that management
<S7L> Boris: ah, and universe was born because of that logical difficulty?
<skeleton> i dont think it is possible for nothing to exist, i think it is a flawed concept
<S7L> Reminds me of a mathematician who proved that universe must exist because without universe, numbers couldn't exist.
<Boris> S7L: maybe...
<S7L> he was a crank mathematician anyway
<Zetapal> there is nothing AND something going on at all times
<S7L> had problem with standard aristotelean logic, so he went and invented fuzzy logic.
<S7L> claimed it's special because it's based on different _philosophy_. As if the very numbers for which he attributed universe's existence for, ever cared.
<Boris> S7L: genius are often considered as crank
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<S7L> hey Nancy. Early, are we?
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<NancyL> Hello folks.  I CANNOT be here at the usual time, will be at least an hour late.
<NancyL> A family emergency.
<Boris> S7L: but maybe something can't exists without nothing...
<S7L> Oh, tough to hear that, Nancy. Serious?
<S7L> I guess emergency implies it's serious.
<NancyL> What I propose doing, since I expect a flood of new folks due to the Art Bell thing, is to collect valid questions for next week.
<Boris> Hello Nancy
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<NancyL> There is, in fact, no agenda for today.
<Zetapal> we'll make sure everyone knows nancy, don't fret
<Zetas> hi Nancy
<NancyL> Most of hte new folks will need to be directed to existing ZT in any case, as it is so huge, and some just may want to talk about their feelings and reactions.
<NancyL> I got hundreds of emails, no kidding. Vast majority very positive.
<NancyL> I'm going to practice setting the announcement, as I have the power.
<sirgrim> hi nancy!
<Zetapal> I believe it nancy.Art Bell exposure is huge
<NancyL> After I do, I'll ask you if you can SEE this.
<agentY> oh
<agentY> hi
<sirgrim> I couldn't get in on the art bell show, but kept trying
* agentY puts his pants back on
<sirgrim> specially since the lines were opened up for just me in the first hour
<sirgrim> well, coloradans,
<Zetapal> mainstream exposure nearly
<skeleton> what was discussed on the art bell anyways?  i couldnt get it
<medfield> open lines on planet x
<agentY> Where can i d/l  a copy of tue/wed  show ???????????
<agentY> for free
<medfield> it was a good show skeleton
<sirgrim> i slept in my truck so i could listen to it
<agentY> hehehe
<skeleton> is there anyway to listen to it, or cover the material that was discussed ?
<NancyL> !announce Welcome to #ZetaTalk. Nancy had a family emergency and cannot attend.  Tonights chat will form the Agenda, Questions, for next week.  For those newbies joining because of Art Bell show, WELCOME!  Please post your reactions to the radio show, and what questions this raised in your mind.  Thanks you.  Nancy.
<NancyL> OK, that didn't work.
<NancyL> Will try again
<sirgrim> art bell's stream of last night's isn't workin for me what a bummer
<sirgrim> and i pay for this crap... pft
<NancyL> Sirgrim, hello!  OK, this time I used an /announce command, and it didn't complain, but it didn't who up either, anywhere.
<S7L> I think "/announce" will be most certainly wrong.
<NancyL> What I'm trying to do is put the message out so that when first coming ON, folks see it.
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<NancyL> AH, SirGrim, can YOU help me?
<sirgrim> hmm
<sirgrim> maybe
<sirgrim> lemme code something
<S7L> unfortunately, I don't seem to see any kind of announce.
<S7L> It's supposed to appear on joining the channel, I guess.
<NancyL> Thanks S7L
<Zetapal> who wants the show?
<NancyL> Yes, SirGrim, I wanted to find out what the discussion was too, but didn't have time yet.
<sirgrim> give me a minute and i'll have it working
<Zetapal> will attempt DCC send...
<NancyL> Thanks :-)
<NancyL> I'm going to leave my log running, and hope the line does not go down.
<NancyL> This is the lightning damaged line, so maybe will go down.
<NancyL> But I want to collect, as I stated, reactions to those newbies to the PS concept, at least from the ZT mouth, and what questions this raised in their minds.  
<NancyL> The big I'VE GOT TO KNOW, kind of Q's
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<sirgrim> woops
<sirgrim> that's not it
<samsara2003> I'd still like a confirmation from the zetas as to the severity of the catalysms on the second pass...zetatalk DID mention that 2nd set of catalysms will occur...
<Zetapal> agentY sending request...awaiting reply...
<samsara2003> But you nancy - have said that it will NOT be an issue as we'll be on the other side of the sun...
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<Zetapal> no good
<sirgrim> ah my friend
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<Zetapal> standby
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<medfield> are you trying to make a greeting for people who come into the channel?
<medfield> or something more indepth
<grimbot> grimbot, Welcome to #ZetaTalk. Nancy had a family emergency and cannot attend. Tonights chat will form the Agenda, Questions, for next week. For those newbies joining because of Art Bell show, WELCOME! Please post your reactions to the radio show, and what questions this raised in your mind. Thanks you. Nancy.
<medfield> eh that looks good no help needed
<samsara2003> Anyone know where to get a copy of this program?  
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<grimbot> sirgrim, Welcome to #ZetaTalk. Nancy had a family emergency and cannot attend. Tonights chat will form the Agenda, Questions, for next week. For those newbies joining because of Art Bell show, WELCOME! Please post your reactions to the radio show, and what questions this raised in your mind. Thanks you. Nancy.
<sirgrim> would you rather it be in private message?
<medfield> ./ctcp
<skeleton> or perhaps as a notice
<medfield> ;p
* sirgrim watches his pizza form ice cubes
<skeleton> you can use the /notice command
<S7L> sirgrim: definitely a private message, or notice
<S7L> no point to spam the channel
<sirgrim> naw, it's not a mirc script i'm coding eggdrop tcl's, i'll do notice
<S7L> and eraase the notice when joining #tt
<Zetapal> agentY still no good?
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<grimbot> SteveH, Welcome to #ZetaTalk. Nancy had a family emergency and cannot attend. Tonights chat will form the Agenda, Questions, for next week. For those newbies joining because of Art Bell show, WELCOME! Please post your reactions to the radio show, and what questions this raised in your mind. Thanks you. Nancy.
<S7L> she said she would be at least an hour late
<S7L> which indicates she has the intention to keep the show, only can't maintain the time
<SteveH> ah... thanks
<sirgrim> hmm, it shouldn't do that at all
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<sirgrim> but i'm coding this on the fly so be patient heh
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<grimbot> Zetapal, Welcome to #ZetaTalk. Nancy had a family emergency and cannot attend. Tonights chat will form the Agenda, Questions, for next week. For those newbies joining because of Art Bell show, WELCOME! Please post your reactions to the radio show, and what questions this raised in your mind. Thanks you. Nancy.
<NancyL> Sirgrim, I must go to take my sister to the hospital in Madison now.  Can you post my message for me?
<S7L> you ought to modify the message to indicate nancy's intent to keep the session later on, as I read it
<S7L> else we have to weed off a horde of questions everyone asking 'will she keep it or not'
<NancyL> I'll repost it here, in case it got lost.
<NancyL>  Welcome to #ZetaTalk. Nancy had a family emergency and cannot attend.  Tonights chat will form the Agenda, Questions, for next week.  For those newbies joining because of Art Bell show, WELCOME!  Please post your reactions to the radio show, and what questions this raised in your mind.  Thanks you.  Nancy.
<NancyL> Must go.  Thank you all for filling in for me tonight.  I got about 500 emails, no kidding!  
<NancyL> I'll come back at least 1.5 hours late, to see where we are, etc.
<NancyL> Bye!  Thanks!
<SteveH> caio Nancy and hope your sister is alright
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<grimbot> bobope, Welcome to #ZetaTalk. Nancy had a family emergency and cannot attend. Tonights chat will form the Agenda, Questions, for next week. For those newbies joining because of Art Bell show, WELCOME! Please post your reactions to the radio show, and what questions this raised in your mind. Thanks you. Nancy.
<Zetas> ciao nancy may the zeta be with your sister
<skeleton> take care nancy
<skeleton> and to your sister
<Zetapal> AgentY still no good?
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<Zetas> zeta: can you send me the show pls
<Zetas> i'm on a fast speed
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<skeleton> do you have the whole show saved ?
<S7L> nancy upped the amount of email she got. First it was hundreds, then 500. I wonder if I simply read the amount wrong.
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<skeleton> hundreds as a plurative isnt exactly contradictory to 500
<Zetas> lol
<SteveH> that's a lot of email to slog through
<Zetas> maybe she got mailbombing
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<Zetapal> I'm having probs with DCC send,suspect router firewall which is supposed to be passive,if someone can help me get thru it, EVERYONE can have the Art Bell interview
<Zetapal> I have the show on three mp3 files
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<skeleton> zetapal- what client are you using ?  mIRC ?
[skeleton:#ZetaTalk PING]
<Zetapal> correct mIRC latest ver
<Zetas> its because of is firewweall
<Zetas> nothing is going out
<skeleton> goto file--->options--->connect--->local info
<skeleton> is the proper IP address reported?
<Zetapal> standby
<Zetapal> yes as far as I can tell,correct address
<skeleton> are the boxes checked?  
<skeleton> on connect always get ip address, local host?
<skeleton> are you at h ome or at a business or university, and are you running XP ?
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<grimbot> sirgrim, Welcome to #ZetaTalk. Nancy had a family emergency and cannot attend. Tonights chat will form the Agenda, Questions, for next week. For those newbies joining because of Art Bell show, WELCOME! Please post your reactions to the radio show, and what questions this raised in your mind. Thanks you. Nancy.
<sirgrim> k down to just this channel
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<Zetapal> confirm...yes,always get address local host
<sirgrim> k now in private message
<DillBerT> sirgrim: do a /notice user   not a /msg channel pls its annoying
<skeleton> hmm, it's hard to know for sure what the problem is, it could be many things
<skeleton> you could try switching your lookup method to server and then relogging onto IRC, or something like that
<Zetapal> running win98 se at home, using lync sys router to share cable modem over network
<skeleton> but i cant guarantee anything will work
<skeleton> hmm well if you are using a regular cable modem you should have a static ip, i think
<Zetapal> ok skeleton
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<DillBerT> yeah because he has a router so is IP should be static
<sirgrim> how's that
<sirgrim> ;D
<DillBerT> sir: cool it works :)
<sirgrim> anyone want the code?
<medfield> http://www.dshield.org/primer.html
<skeleton> well maybe you know more about network addresses than i do sirgrim
<skeleton> i was just under the impression that most cable modems reported static ips
<medfield> sigrim can you get it to work?
<Zetapal> well, I know router uses a static ip but assigns my machine a dynamic ip every time I log on, getting the transfer through this settup seems to be the prob
<skeleton> i think you need IRC to report the correct IP address
<skeleton> do you know where else to find it on your network settings/?\
<medfield> connect to the router itself
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<CalneCrusader> hello
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<CalneCrusader> anyone here
<skeleton> yeah
<CalneCrusader> just wondering why we only get STS and STO aliens visiting - why not undecided 3rd density aliens?
<medfield> nature valley granola bars will answer that
<S7L> according to some sources, there ought to be spirits of all nature disincarnate and potentially desiring to meddle with the affairs of anyone willing to lend a lsitening ear
<S7L> but judging from the spirit level, I hear we are all equally alien to each other. 3rd density physical forms, I understand have not developed the capability of flight due to technical obstacles, which they are in fact not permitted to overcome, according to zetatalk.
<CalneCrusader> well 9 months from now we will know if planet x is on the way or not
<S7L> no. As far as I am concerned, the images have already spoken and they tell quite plainly that planet x is not on the way as claimed.
<medfield> or 4
<medfield> ;p
<DillBerT> the revolution of planet X is 3600 years or 36000 years ?
<medfield> 3600
<CalneCrusader> i would say there is a 5 per cent chance its coming - 95 per cent not
<DillBerT> ok
<medfield> cause I think its every 3057 it visits us if I hear correctly on the radio three/four nights ago when I was introduced to this
<CalneCrusader> s7l - what images have you seen?
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<skeleton> S7L- do you think it is pos sible for zetatalk to maintain any credulity without the appearance of planet x, and why are you certain the current photographs are conclusive?
<CalneCrusader> if planet x doesnt show than nancy will look a complete idiot and will sign up for social security payments
<S7L> That is a two-fold question. I have checked the zetatalk in 1995-1996 when it was hot about the Hale-Bopp and based on that experience it looks like it's no point even thinking it has any credibility to begin with.
<S7L> CalneCrusader: drop the bold.
<CalneCrusader> that better?
<CalneCrusader> zetatalk syays hale-bopp was a red herring
<skeleton> ah.  can you elaborate about what was suspicious in those years?
<S7L> skeleton: secondly, the self-conflicting information given abotu planet x should put the planet _clearly_ visible. It's as good as invisible right now. That is why I said "not as claimed"
<S7L> skeleton: I have done some of that work here:
<skeleton> yes i agree, it should be visible and it doesnt appear to be
<S7L> http://www.saunalahti.fi/~s7l/cgi-bin/zeta.cgi
<S7L> see the hale-bopp link on the menu in pink in the right.
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<loitus> Hello all
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<S7L> I'm quite satisfied abuot the 'Scopes' bit also.
<skeleton> yeah im reading through
<samsara2003> S7L - Perhaps you'd care to explain how Ice Ages occur?
<S7L> samsara2003: I have no particular opinion. I'm not stating a Planet X were impossible.
<samsara2003> Modern Science still has absolutely no idea...
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<samsara2003> In fact...
<S7L> I'm only stating it can hardly be the object Nancy claims to be talking about.
<S7L> but, I must conclude that hint by stating that to my knowledge, no Planet X has been observed.
<samsara2003> According to very solid research by Robert Hapgood, the Wiscosnin Ice-sheet - extending down to past the 45 degree latitude / did not mirror the  ice sheet in Siberia - which was nearly non-existant
<samsara2003> The opposite was the case in the sourthern hemesphere
<S7L> samsara2003: I'm aware of some of the most interesting problem these ice ages form for science.
<samsara2003> His research build on the works of Velikvosky
<S7L> however, there are some serious attempts to explain them.
<samsara2003> It's often misrepresented that Einstein DID NOT agree with Velikovskys ideas...
<S7L> And what comes to Velikovsky is that his work can't be taken as literal account of fact -- more like a comprehensive synthesis of mythology.
<samsara2003> nothing could have been further from the truth
<CalneCrusader> does it really matter if there is a planet x - we'll all be dead anyway in 50 yrs
<SteveH> S7L, on your site you say you believe Nancy is a 100% liar. Again, why do you waste your time here?
<samsara2003> The only aspect of Velikovskys reserach that was in disagreement was Venus's appearance in the 16th century BC
<S7L> SteveH: I am interested in the planet x thing.
<samsara2003> Velikovsky had no clue about the 12th planet
<S7L> I'm also interested in hearing about other people's sentients about Planet X, any weird dreams, hunches, alien visitations, you name it. This is the place to get it.
<samsara2003> The bottom line is that the ONLY possibilty for ice ages and the evidence that Hapgood has surfaced is a global poleshift
<CalneCrusader> Have any of her predictions come true, can anyone say for sure?
<SteveH> your only purpose is to try to debunk it... why not debunk it on sci.astro with the others?
<samsara2003> And the ONLY agent that can cause poleshifts...according to even the most conservative researches - is a massive planet
<S7L> samsara2003: oh bullshit. You only need to get sea currents to go differently to inflict a major climate change that could account to some degree if not all of ice ages.
<samsara2003> Thus...I am persoanlly convinced that the 12th planet is there...
<loitus> Steve: To be open-minded is to consider both sides of the coin and not to follow blindly like a sheep.
<SteveH> works for me...
<S7L> it's just not simply question of latitude, it's a big question about cilmate. We do not know because climate changes slowly.
<medfield> S7L: but what would explain a wully mammoth or wahtever being flash frozen with tropical plants still in its stomach and possibly even esophogus?
<samsara2003> s7l - NOT TRUE
<samsara2003> Even conservate reserachers now believe that SUDDEN Climate changes occur
<samsara2003> Their theory is that there is a threshold that is reached that suddenly causes climate change
<S7L> samsara2003: ok, but for what we observe climate changes slowly.
<S7L> and that second bit was also what I was coming to.
<SteveH> not in the past decade
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<CalneCrusader> http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/planet991007.html  -  read this it is evidence for Px
<S7L> that once a certain threshold is crossed, there is a sudden change.
<SteveH> climate change has been beyond predictions
<S7L> I can't explain anything relevant about the mammoths.
<samsara2003> This overwhelming evidence of sudden climate change is so completely undeniable at this case, that it has to accounted for somehow
<CalneCrusader> or read this too http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_467000/467572.stm
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<samsara2003> I'm really serious about this evidence
<samsara2003> It's absolutely stunning...
<sirgrim> hi samsara
<loitus> There is no solid evidence, I'd latch on to it if there were. But, Nancy or the "Zetas" say that in August that there will be no way to deny it due to obvious evidence. I choose to wait until then, if nothing happens.. then I'm done giving Nancy any creedance...
<samsara2003> We could VERY WELL be looking at a future global shift...
<samsara2003> Loitus - that's simply not true...
* S7L is waiting for the predictions for this year to come true
<loitus> Show me it?
<sirgrim> !suptime
<grimbot> Shell Uptime:  2:46PM  up 107 days, 13:55, 4 users, load averages: 0.14, 0.12, 0.09
<samsara2003> Ok...
<loitus> SOLID UNDENIABLE PROOF
<CalneCrusader> perhaps, Nancy is gibing us partial truths - just like the CIA etc like to do
<S7L> such as an undeniable backyard astronomer sighting, planet X -induced rotation slowdown that goes for minutes, etc.
<loitus> Like the fact that water is wet, because I can touch it and see that it is.
<S7L> and the meltdown of the pole glacier, also something Nancy claimed would be happening _in_this_year_.
<medfield> damn whats grim running
<samsara2003> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0385041136/qid=1024174342/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-6591740-0972931
<medfield> bsd?
<SteveH> loitus, sudden climate changes are more than just theory...
<samsara2003> Go there
<S7L> at least to such degree that there would be significant increase of ocean levels.
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<medfield> cause freeBSD rulezezez
<loitus> SteveH: Climate change is different than a gigantic planet flying towards earth...
<samsara2003> Also - look at what Albert Einstein said about Velikovsky's ideas...
<skeleton> s7l actually there has been a warming up of polar regions
<skeleton> problems with migration of penguins
<samsara2003> Go to http://www.varchive.org/
<S7L> skeleton: really? Another source I read about said there had been a cooling.
<CalneCrusader> why do i spend all my life chasing these myths - why not just get on with normaility like everyone else i know. Something drives me to this stuff
<samsara2003> This is an excellent source
<samsara2003> Did you know...
<samsara2003> Einstein had the book "Worlds in Collision" open on his desk and was reading it in 1955 upon his death?
<S7L> I guess both are occuring? But there has been significant breaki-ups of ice occuring anyway, corresponding to slightly warmed seas in the region.
<SteveH> loitus, not different if the changes are caused by the planet passing
<skeleton> one piece that strucked me that seemed to confirm some of the things Zetatalk talks about was several thousand year old radiation deposits in rajasthan india.  supposed remnants of the nuclear war the 12th planet people were waging?
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<loitus> I believe the Earth can undergo massive changes quickly, but until I see a red planet getting larger day after day above my head, Planet X is and will remain a theory..
<samsara2003> He was just as fascinated by this as Velikovsky...who were both (according to zetatalk) star children...
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<CalneCrusader> i think if nancy turns out to be a liar next may, then she will probably be assasinated by one of her followers
<samsara2003> If you are new to this and are skeptical about the spiritual aspects of the transformation...I can assure you that
<samsara2003> this is something that is really happening.
<skeleton> yes as interesting as i find zetatalk and as compelling as it seems to fit, there will be no confirmation until we see planet x
<S7L> why I said Nancy lies on my pages is that she is not honest of her 100% track record. It's not true.
<samsara2003> http://www.ascension2000.com/
<loitus> I take the stance with this theory as I have with anything in life, including GOD, I don't whole-heartedly believe anything until there is proof, because the people who once thought the Earth was flat thought so, because they didn't question it...
<samsara2003> This is a great source on the topics of what the zetas refer to as the transformation
<S7L> But nevertheless, I can't yet dismiss this entire planet x case.
<loitus> No one can.
<loitus> But no one can TRULY confirm it either.
<loitus> It's best to stay neutral.
<loitus> Educated but wary.
<medfield> im neutral
<loitus> Wait for proof and if it never comes, that's for a reason.
<medfield> sweeet
<S7L> well, my education says that I can safely ignore Nancy. But my intuition says I can not.
<samsara2003> The stakes are very high
<CalneCrusader> well the origins of the moon are interesting, because its rock structure dont fit with Earths at all so it must be from some other part of the solar system
<SteveH> and time is quickly running out...
<medfield> the stakes arent high at all samsara, shit happends we cant stop this as beings
<S7L> so, I'm looking for whatever clues about 'Planet X' or something that matches.
<samsara2003> Seriously - if you really believe that there is a chance that this will happen - do some research
<samsara2003> There's a lot of info out there.
<samsara2003> I have a good list of references if you'd like any
<DillBerT> samsara2003: people like to believe in something thats not new..
<loitus> My INDIVIDUAL life is no more important than anyone elses, if I die due to Planet X, Nibiru, then so be it. But I'll live my life the best until then.
<CalneCrusader> i think that there is a 5 per cent chance - and 5 per cent scares me
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<SteveH> my worst dream is when it's a couple of days before the shift and I suddenly realize I've done nothing to prepare
<samsara2003> DillberT---I understand your analogy... :)
<DillBerT> steve: hahaha
<samsara2003> so what..
<CalneCrusader> as long as i am wearing clean underpants
<S7L> I sort of hope that if there is a shift, it wouldn't be so very drastic for all of the population of Earth. It could get very, very ugly.
<SteveH> and I start running around like a chicken with it's head cut off
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<loitus> My worst fear is to move, leave my job-friends-family, for a safe-place only to have NOTHING happen. That would have effected my life more than just dying.
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<samsara2003> I'll be needing to buy a gun...
<samsara2003> :)
<samsara2003> Any suggestions?
<S7L> I would want that it were somehow smoother. Not something where tidal waves wash over countries, vegetation and animals die, etc.
<CalneCrusader> i aint doing anything until i can see it with my own eyes
<S7L> the prospect is utterly gloomy.
<loitus> Exactly- proof then reaction
<SteveH> where do you live samsara?
<samsara2003> As long as you're in a relatively rural area and have at least some basic supplies - you'll be WAY ahead of the game...
<CalneCrusader> until i see it in the sky, then this is just an interesting hobby for me
<samsara2003> Just remember - ALL OF HUMANITY will be in the same boat...
<S7L> somehow, I get this whisper stating it will be bad -- but not that bad.
<samsara2003> Just think of how horrid it will be - no body is going to have the slightest clue what the hell is going on...
<DillBerT> hummm samsara dont talk to fast we are not DOOMED yet and we'll wait in august if IT REALLY HAPPEN
<loitus> That's all it should be for anyone.. until there is SOLID evidence that Planet X is coming, soon.. I mean REAL evidence.. then anyone who believes it fully is as ignorant as those who thought the moon was made of cheese.
<CalneCrusader> only 6 weeks to August
<samsara2003> You have to understand the consequences of the 12th planet showing up...
<DillBerT> moon was made of cheese hahaha that was a good one
<S7L> at any rate, the CalneCrusader's article states it quite plainly that the planet is estimated to be half-a-lightyear away.
<SteveH> loitus, there already is solid evidence...
<DillBerT> samsara2003 you have to understand there is no REAL sign of evidence there is a 10th planet
<loitus> Yes, but I won't scatter like a cockroach for my personal saftey..
<S7L> if that were Nancy's planet X, it would be coming at us on half lightspeed to make it here in one year.
<samsara2003> Not only is a poleshift going to occur - but the alien presense and the transformation as well as soul evolution and reincarnation - ARE VERY REAL
<samsara2003> You won't have to worry about your own death....
<S7L> but of course, that's just someone's calculations based on orbital data on some comets...
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<loitus> Samsara: Prove it to me, and I will believe you.
<CalneCrusader> i think you are right - there are definately aliens out there
<loitus> But, that always the hardest thing to do.. to PROVE something..
<DillBerT> samsara2003: thats bullshit, the planetX things may be true , but dont tell me you REALLy believes alien will shift ALL of us Up in the air to save us... hmmm
<samsara2003> loitus - have you read Earth in Upheveal?
<samsara2003> No? THen read it...
<loitus> Literature, means nothing..
<samsara2003> It was my gateway to understanding and believeing  the bulk of this incredible material
<loitus> It's a creation.
<samsara2003> WHAT?
<loitus> I want SOLID evidence.
<samsara2003> That's the most ignorant statement I've ever heard
<CalneCrusader> we all agree that weather changes are happening - but the cause is the debate
<S7L> at any rate, I consider it a great feature to be skeptical, rather than not.
<loitus> I never believed the bible.. why would I believe that book?
<loitus> Ink on pages are creations of humantity's mind.. it once read in literature that the Earth was shaped like a pancake.. was it true?
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<S7L> samsara2003: look, Earth in Upheaval was written by a person who understood almost nothing of physics, or astronomy. All he did was dug up myths which he fitted to his story.
<DillBerT> the weather changes is cause by the pollution ?? you never heard the word "pollution" before samsara?
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<S7L> The problem is, how much can you trust his conclusions, if you think his methods were dubious?
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<loitus> Show me a planet coming.. show me an alien.. paper with ink on it.. I'll wipe my ass w/ it.
<SteveH> it's more easy to be skeptical if you're single and able to up and go at a moments notice. It's more difficult if you have family, children etc. you want to prepare for...
<samsara2003> S7L -> That's the most BS statement and I'm sick of people making that silly arguement...
<S7L> SteveH: I disagree. The principle is exactly same.
<loitus> Samsara: Even on Amazon.. people question him BELIEVABLY.. it's all rubbish until there is evidence..
<samsara2003> Look at the principles of reserach...
<S7L> samsara2003: look, just because you want to believe, you do. But I can't afford to accept Velikovsky's conclusions just like that.
<CalneCrusader> all we get are excuses for why we cant have hard evidence by people like nancy - i dont buy that
<samsara2003> Most reserachers enter a field and become unindated and attached exclusively to the material that they have been taught themselves
<loitus> Give me evidence.. or give me a break...
<DillBerT> haha
<CalneCrusader> well said loitus
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<SteveH> have a break then hehe
<samsara2003> The room to "create" and "discover" is very small...they are bound by the guidelines their field of reserach imposes on them
<zondella> Is there any concrete proof that Loitus exists - perhaps these responses are created by a computer program which is responding to keywords detected in the other respondents comments - We need concrete proof!
<loitus> Exactly.
<CalneCrusader> dont be silly zondella
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<samsara2003> Whereas if you have an outsider that comes along who is intelligent / knowledgeble / he has the potential to see the situation in a different manor
<Zetapal> back Dillbert private me your IM name and lets try that thing
<loitus> I could be part of the disinfo crew.. question everything.. it's the only way humanity has ever evolved to the point where we are at today..
<S7L> samsara2003: I might want to think that you may have never been close to a scientist working in his field, in order to make that statement.
<samsara2003> (The tree/forest scenario for example)
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<samsara2003> I didn't make that statement
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<samsara2003> Charles Hapgood said that...
<S7L> samsara2003: the scientists are not picky about data and exacting methods of doing science for picky reasons. If you don't know what you are takling about, your intuition is worthless.
<n>  hi
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<SteveH> intuition is never worthless...
<S7L> Any scientist knows that sometimes the world doesn't make sense
<samsara2003> It was in the conclusion to his book Map of Ancient Sea kings...
<S7L> so intuition goes out of the door and hard data sets in.
<loitus> Accept nothing until it's proven... truly proven.. not with words.. not with theory.. with solid evidence. Nancy says that evidence will come in August.. so let's just wait and see. She's either a fraud or a prophet... time will TRULY tell
<samsara2003> S7L-You're not making any sense?
<S7L> samsara2003: proves I'm right.
<S7L> World doesn't make sense -- the more you study it, the weirder it seems :)
<samsara2003> Right - Intuition-SteveH is the most powerful friend we have
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<samsara2003> It was what allowed Einstein to draw his conclusions about general & special relativity
<S7L> but you see, it seems to me that people believe easily into things like a priori reasoning -- discvoerting the nature of universe from intuition and thought alone.
<samsara2003> THEN he went about to proove it
<SteveH> he dreamt it up first
<S7L> I don't believe that. There's almost no chance it can work.
<Zetapal> OK anyone with Instant Messenger that wants the Art Bell show,send me your buddy name and we will TRY this..I emphasize TRY...
<CalneCrusader> why worry about being lied to? your wife, government, parents, girlfriend, kids, employer all lie to you all of your life. Nancy is just joining a long list of deceivers
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<n>  some new cropcircles on the cropcircleconnector!!!
<S7L> samsara2003: Einstein was also regarded as one of the most intelligent people on Earth. I'm not that smart. Neither is you, I hazard.
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<n>  its crop time!!!
<S7L> So I suggest keeping feet on ground.
<CalneCrusader> Cropcircles are the ONLY good evidence for aliens we have
<loitus> And PROVE it he did.. with EVIDENCE...
<samsara2003> s7L - Prooves your cynical, short-sided, and non-intuitive
<loitus> If he never did.. he wouldn't be the man he is considered to be today..
<S7L> loitus: yes, unlike certain kooks, einstein's theories could be verified ;p
<SteveH> Zetapal, is MSN messenger alright?
<samsara2003> Seeing around the corners in life is what our own intuition tells us
<S7L> samsara2003: I consider those adjectives to be admiring statements of character, thank you ;-)
<skeleton> lets not try to make conclusions about each other, in this channel
<CalneCrusader> I live in Wiltshire and walk in CropCircles every year - beleive me they are not all hoaxes
<Zetapal> umm I don't know is it the same as AOL instant messenger? anyone?
<skeleton> i prefer that we dont come to conclusions about each other being narrowminded
<samsara2003> S7L - I don't mean to insult - I'm just exhasperated - I want you to see through your own amnesia...
<skeleton> but assume positivity
<samsara2003> You're being an idiot as well as everyone else is in the world...
<Zetapal> might work Steve send me and I'll try
<samsara2003> I was just as gullible and and short-sided until I woke up
<samsara2003> Comeon...
<S7L> samsara2003: I know, but you don't see that I see your claims got holes in them.
<samsara2003> Read Mankind in Amnesia by Immanuel Velikovsky
<CalneCrusader> I have been scientific, I have been in many cropcircles and I can tell you that some of them are not man made because of the size, precision and time scale they were made in
<loitus> People who so blindly believe are always SOOOO quick to insult..
<loitus> So defensive..
<loitus> Because they don't like to realize that they should question all that they believe..
<samsara2003> Calne-Correct
<n>  sort of waves in it
<S7L> samsara2003: I consider the ice age argument an interesting one. I think the mammoths are a fascinating mystery. But I don't leap to a ople shift yet.
<n>  verry nice!!
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<S7L> there is a very big leap you see.
<samsara2003> That's fine...
<Zetapal> noone wants the ART BELL interview???  c'mon I need a guinny pig to see if this file transfer will work through my router
<CalneCrusader> I am a skeptic, so I went to walk in them, they are real in many cases
<samsara2003> I didn't either...right away
<n>  its verry bussy on the channel
<CalneCrusader> zetapal - how big is it?
<samsara2003> S7L--Sorry I got a little abusive there...I have some opinions on this... :)
<S7L> samsara2003: I know that there is a lot of circumstancial evidence that seems to support a planet x when you take it that way
<Zetapal> 3 files 14meg each...mp3
<S7L> but a lot of what nancy lieder tells seems to be lies as well, which is unfortunate and harms her credibility and her zetas in my eyes.
<samsara2003> yes
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<samsara2003> Why does it seem like lies?
<n>  Hi,Nancy
<CalneCrusader> anyone read the chanel Robert Shapiro - he has written loads of Zeta books, and they dont tie in with Nancy at all
<S7L> well, she for instance claims that earthquake activity is on the rise. This was true for 2001 but is no longer true for 2002, when we have fallen drastically
<samsara2003> Ask yourself why that is?  Is it because it's too difficult to accept? To gut-wrenching.  To mind-boggling?
<loitus> Samsara: I feel that you may dread August.. becuase it's that month that you either are vindicated or are made out to be a sheep - led by a shepard..
<reti> Is Nancy here today?
<S7L> nevertheless, she keeps on making that claim despite I have corrected her several times. Her argument back to me is that USGS lies.
<CalneCrusader> Anyone read Robert Shapiro's channelled Zeta work?
<S7L> so, USGS statistics is used to both prove her planet x, and then when she doesn't like the numbers, USGS lies? very convincing.
<samsara2003> I can't comment on that...I've seen a general increase in the statistics I've looked at
<reti> what happens in august loitus?
<loitus> I will also never forget how Nancy F-ed up w/ Hale-Bopp and had to change her story to cover her butt.. I found her credible until then...
<S7L> samsara2003: try looking graphs from 1960 to 2002 -- you'll see a cylcical pattern. And only significant earth quakes, such as over 5 ricther point.
<S7L> well, nancy and her abusive aliens during 1995, 1996 sci.astro -- that performance is horrible.
<loitus> Reti: Nancy claims there will be UNDENAIBLE proof in August, or should I say "the Zetas"..
<S7L> she is wise not to include any of that on her web pages, save from cover-up for her hale-bopp fiasco
<reti> loitus, what is supposssed to happen in Aug.?
<loitus> reti: read above I answered you.
<SteveH> toubled times has some good graphs that pulls data from more than just the USGS and the increase in earthquake over the last decade is dramatic
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<CalneCrusader> Dont worry folks, by next May Nancy will either be a new messiah or a fucking idiot
<loitus> Word
<S7L> SteveH: go back to 1960 and you see _exactly_ as dramatic figures then
<S7L> the earthquakes come in flurries. The 1995 boom is no greater than the 1970 boom
<loitus> I'm sure if nothing happens in August.. it'll be BECAUSE... etc... just like Hale-BOPP
<S7L> and we are supposed to attribute this flurry to planet x? Why?
<CalneCrusader> what is supposed to happen in august?
<samsara2003> Well, plate-locking was supposed to lessen, I thought...
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<loitus> Why? <--- the best question to ask.. always..
<samsara2003> <shrug>
<S7L> the USGS website _itself_ documents statistics about the earthquake, over the time they have been observing.
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<S7L> They state that there is _no_ discernable changes in the earthquake patterns. I give you that 2001 was a strong year, very strong year. But 2002 hjas been quiet.
<CalneCrusader> plate locking in august - meaning what earthquakes?
<loitus> Hey... the USGS are part of the disinfo crew.. trust on the Zetas... believe on the Zetas.. live service-to-others or perish... ;)
<S7L> and then again, 1964 has equally strong earthquakes.
<Moose> can i have a link to the usgs site?
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<reti> Just listening to art last night it seemed as though what Nancy has said has struck a chord in a lot of people, puttin aside statistics
<S7L> Moose. type "USGS" in google. The first hit should be it. Something like usgs.gov -- can't remember exactly
<Moose> k
<CalneCrusader> someone said somewhere that nancy's son runs a company that sells dome homes - is that true????
<S7L> and when Nancy claimed volcanism is on the rise, this was based on badly interpreted statistics on active volcanoes
<loitus> She has a son? Who'd stick their junk in that beast?
<CalneCrusader> lol
<CalneCrusader> hahahaha
<S7L> there is _no_ unusual amoutn of volcanoes, though I grant that there are many who seem to be coming to life. But her claim was specifically based on counting some volcanoes twice
<reti> ?
<reti> what junk?
<loitus> pee-pee
<CalneCrusader> their cock
<S7L> and that makes those claims inappropriate until they are verified properly.
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<Jenkins3d> omg..you guys are such loosers
<SteveH> check these links out for a comprehensive earthquake stats analysis
<S7L> and the experts, of course being part of huge international cover-up to squash this, state there is nothing wroth of reporting.
<S7L> no unusual activity.
<SteveH> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx055.htm
<loitus> looser.. yes I feel kinda loose today.. I must admit..
<SteveH> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx056.htm
<reti> god, you really seem to have strong feelings against Nancy, what gives loitus!
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<loitus> Steve: Find that Data somewhere other than on Zetatalk.com...
<loitus> ;)
<Zetapal> sorry...system dump...back...SteveH AIM couldn't find you from given email addy...skeleton,still waiting for yours
<SteveH> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx057.htm
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<CalneCrusader> if she is truthful, i love her. if she is a liar she can rot in hell - simple
<reti> why?
<loitus> reti: She physically repulsive.. that's all I was saying...
<loitus> I wouldn't bang her..
<loitus> that's all.
<SteveH> that data is pulled from the CNSS earthquake catalog which pulls stats from everywhere
<reti> im mean, why are you so attached to her predictions calne?
<loitus> SteveH: Find it elsewhere.. then I'll look at it.
<CalneCrusader> she has a nice personality tho loitus :)
<loitus> She does?
<Zetapal> I need an AIM buddy to try sending the ART BELL show to...
<loitus> Ever chat w/ her?
<reti> no
<SteveH> look at the CNSS catalog, enter the same information
<CalneCrusader> she wont let you chat with her
<Zetapal> high speed preferred...
* S7L 's suggestion is to look for long-term patterns
<CalneCrusader> she talks at you not with you
<loitus> She chats here sometimes..
<S7L> don't just restrict to 1990 or 1985 like those graphs on ZetaTalk
<S7L> go down to 1960
<loitus> for a few minuted here and there..
<reti> lol, I wouldnt talk with someone who was calling me a beast either! :)
<loitus> I don't say it to her face..
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<S7L> her "deep quake" patterns also fail to prove the point if you look at them over long range. Earthquakes are no proof for planet x.
<reti> jesus
<loitus> I wouldn't want to hurt her feelings..
<CalneCrusader> she has sweaty mud flaps as we say in the UK
<loitus> But.. she's a bit ummm bootylicous..
<reti> why this obsession with sex calne?
<loitus> Reti: Why not have an obsession w/ sex?
<CalneCrusader> oooh i love sex dont you?
<reti> im mean I m not interested in her theories or predictions for carnal reasons
<loitus> I am.
<loitus> It gets me off.
<n>  s7l : Do you believe in genetical engineering?
<SteveH> earthquakes not prove but a definite sign that something is up
<reti> so get over it and go find some sucker to fuck
<S7L> n: I absolutely do not understand your statement.
<loitus> I wish she could be a playmate.. it would be so much hotter..
<S7L> Are you asking something particular
<sirgrim> this year bugs have been terrible too
<S7L> SteveH: in that case, 2002 being a quiet year proves that nothing is up.
<loitus> Sucker to fuck? How about a sucker to SUCK?
<sirgrim> giant locust swarms, grashopper clouds, moths are very bad
<loitus> I'll find a fucker to fuck.
<samsara2003> Again, s7l - I will not comment on earthquake data as I am not well informed...
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<n>  Do you believe in the ufo theory in the main?
<n>  but not in px?
<CalneCrusader> yes n
<S7L> n: ah, so you are asking me that if humans have perhaps been genetically engineered.
<reti> whatever gets you off, but I fail to see the relevance of you perversions to nancy or the zeta predictions? loitus
<loitus> There is none.
<loitus> I'm bored.
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<S7L> I don't know. Just because I read it in ZetaTalk doesn't make it true. I don't know if it matters.
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<reti> masturbate or something, spare us the details!
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<reti> :)
<S7L> I think it could be possible that humans were genetically engineered, assuming aliens existed and they did that sort of things.
<loitus> What do you think I'm doing right now?
<loitus> ;)
<n>  Well ,oke
<CalneCrusader> nancy never mentions sex does she - i wonder if she is celibate
<n>  thank you for answering!!
<JGalt> change that keyboard dude
<S7L> CalneCrusader: no, she has a husband as far as I know.
<loitus> SHe's a ho. The Zetas pimp her out big time...
<loitus> The Zetas pimp-hand is strong.
<Zetapal> sirgrim  is your AIM on ... reports you are not available...
<S7L> (loitus: careful, assaults on nancy's character, even if suggested as joke, aren't taken lightly here.)
<CalneCrusader> loitus you make me laugh :-)
<loitus> Thankfully. there's only a bot here.
<n>  We are all born in a new area ->earth->just sort thing out , i think
<S7L> n: I don't really have an answer.
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<reti> S&L, my feelings about the way are talking about nancy would extend to anyone
<samsara2003> Alrighty folks / I'm going to take off / catch ya next week...
<reti> S7L
<S7L> I mean, I can't know those things. I don't have much of an opinion either that I could derive to any meaningful basis. Hence, I conclude I don't know.
<loitus> Peace to your mother..
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<loitus> Shaddy?
<shaddyslim> miss spelling
<loitus> I guessed.
<S7L> reti: sorry, I can't know what feeligns my words provoke in you.
<CalneCrusader> not one person in here has ever been on another planet, and yet its funny to hear how sure people are of their theories
<loitus> Reti: It'll be Ok. Really.. go grab a beer and just chill. Those "provoked" feeling will fade away...
<reti> lol, nah, I was just expecting to check out zetatalk t'day and I found this
<S7L> CalneCrusader: your link about this "10th planet" is in fact quite nice. I'm interested.
<reti> waste of time
<loitus> Isn't it always?
<reti> have fun guys
<CalneCrusader> glad of that s7l
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<Boris> S7L: what's this link about "10th planet"?
<CalneCrusader> wonder when nancy will be here
<loitus> Next week.. she had a family emergency..
<CalneCrusader> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_467000/467572.stm
<Boris> ok thanks
<S7L> Boris: Calnecrusader pasted it.
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<S7L> there are a few key words.
<CalneCrusader> family emergency - perhaps her son has lost one of his dome homes
<S7L> but if you take it like it is, the scientists saw a few comets coming from obstinately strange orbits, and concluded something big enough is throwing those comets in our direction.
<n>  Nancy , is on the channel
<loitus> The Zetas are probaby injecting more of their DNA into her.....brain that is..
<S7L> CalneCrusader: actually,, was something about her sister.
<S7L> loitus: Nancy suggested that she'd keep a session _later_.
<loitus> NancyL is her nick...
<Boris> CalneCrusader: very good info
<S7L> However, notice that this planet is not next-door like Nancy's planet. More like 100 times further away.
<n>  Hi, Nancy
<S7L> and of course, until it's observed it's a theoretical possibility only.
<SteveH> she said she may be 1 1/2 hours late
<Boris> quote: "it seems that the new planet cannot be a true member of our Sun's family of planets. It may be a planet that was born elsewhere, and roamed throughout the galaxy only to be captured on the outskirts of our own Solar System."
<CalneCrusader> i think Nancy isn't an old woman at all, thats just a cover. She is really an alien dressed as a hideous old person
<Swimchic> nice observation
<Boris> it's exactly what Sitchin says in "The 12th Planet"
<S7L> Boris: do you know why the scientists suggest that?
<Boris> S7L: no
<S7L> Boris: according to the gas formation theory of solar system, such large body so utterly far away couldn't have been formed of the accreation disc
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<loitus> Calne: I might bang her then.
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<S7L> hence, it must be captured.
<CalneCrusader> http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/planet991007.html - thats another article on the same thing
<SteveH> loitus, shut-up
<Boris> S7L: yes I understand
<loitus> SteveH: Yes, massa.
<loitus> Oh wait you're not an OP.. nevermind.
<loitus> ;)
<SteveH> burp...
<CalneCrusader> it does bother me that she isnt young and attractive - i would believe anything about PX if Britney said it
<Torbj> hello, my friends!
<loitus> Exactly..
<S7L> anyway, if this article is really from year 1999 it's by now badly outdated
<S7L> it'd be interesting to know if more work regarding this discovery had been made.
<Swimchic> what are you people talking about
<loitus> Maybe one of britney's boobs is planet X disguised as a boob?? You never know..
<loitus> they did get very big quickly...
<CalneCrusader> hahahahaha
<n>  The sun flips at 11 years ,isn't?
<Torbj> whatīs a boob?
<CalneCrusader> they are zetaboobs
<S7L> Torbj:  a breast.
<loitus> TORBJ: You.
<skeleton> this planet is far too remote to be planet X however
<sirgrim> zetans don't have boobs!
<Torbj> ?
<Swimchic> you don't know that
<SteveH> n, no, the suns poles have not flipped
<CalneCrusader> in my dreams they do
<loitus> But they're surely hung...
<loitus> Big heads.. big hands... you get what I'm getting at.
<Swimchic> WHat time is she coming, does anyboyd know??????\
<CalneCrusader> hahahaha
<CalneCrusader> So anyone got any theories on the Earth twin thing?
<Boris> This conversation is very metaphysical...
<loitus> No doubt, yo.
<S7L> SteveH: though the sun's magnetic field is not very strong to begin with, and behaves very strangely. Hence, it's not so big news as Nancy tries to put it. After all, she makes amazing claims about the sizes and relative strengths of the magnetic fields, which are not backed up by any experiments.
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<Swimchic> apparently no one knows
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<loitus> S7L: Proof? You expect proof? ;)
<S7L> Swimchic: it was known that Nancy would be coming online "at least one hour late", quoting her.
<SteveH> 1 1/2 hours late perhaps
<loitus> Swim: No we're all keeping it secret.
<Swimchic> i knew it
<Swimchic> but when did she say the hour thing
<loitus> It's out precious secret.. precious...
<loitus> oooohhhh my precious secret...
<CalneCrusader> shes in a ufo at the moment, and its caught in traffic
<Torbj> have you ever hugged a "boob" loitus?.....if you have, youīve felt life!!!
<Swimchic> nice, but serious
<S7L> the problem that I see with people here is that they take Nancy's word for things. I'm trying to tell you people, slowly but certainly, that you can't go on doing that.
<SteveH> goooo golum!
<loitus> Uhh...
<loitus> ;) You got it.
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<loitus> LOTR
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<S7L> Swimchic: it was about 2 hours ago, I guess.
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<SteveH> of course, I;ve read the books three times hehe
<Swimchic> s7l, so you don't believe nancy?
<Swimchic> okay
<CalneCrusader> Torbj - I have sucked on a few
<S7L> Swimchic: I did. I only found it very unwise to persist in doing this.
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<loitus> I squeeze them.. suck them... even lick them.. Never really hugged them..
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<loitus> But, I will attempt it.. to feel life and stuff.
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<CalneCrusader> have you ever tit wanked loitus>?
<loitus> Yah...
<Swimchic> is this know a porn chat?
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<loitus> Swim: Didn't you know?
<mikeaus> hi all
<Torbj> do you play chess, Calne?
<loitus> The Zetas operate all of the world's porn sites.. that's how they finance their operations..
<CalneCrusader> not very well
<Swimchic> even little kid porn
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<loitus> Hey.. if there's money in it.
<Swimchic> cause if they do, then damn they do good
<CalneCrusader> they have greys spreading their legs.....
<loitus> Those dang silly Zetas...
<SteveH> ok, that's enough... this is digressing again...
<loitus> Ohh ohh time out time..
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<SteveH> back to your corner
<mikeaus> Nancy: the USGS site is actually showing an upward trend in quakes,even if they are fudging data re: the biggest quakes
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<loitus> I wonder.. hmm..
<Torbj> what are yopu afraid of,loitus?
<CalneCrusader> Well I did ask about the Earth twin but no one answered...so I had to move on to porn
<loitus> Boobs
<SteveH> Nancy's not here mikeaus
<mikeaus> their data shows stronger,more frequent quakes
<mikeaus> oh *L*
<CalneCrusader> why are you scared of boobs
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<Swimchic> why are we talking about boobs??
<CalneCrusader> cos we are men
<loitus> They all could be Planet X in disguise... never trust a boob!
<mikeaus> could ppl interested in discussing porn please go to a private channel? thankyou
<loitus> hehe there really is a www.alienporn.com
<Swimchic> i'm not a man
<loitus> SO you got boobs?
<SteveH> ok,,,, earth's twin, on other side of sun... that's the theory right?
<CalneCrusader> do you have boobs?
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<S7L> ah, hello mr. Duncan.
<Torbj> his afraid of the boobs because the soulīs thatīs wearing them is stronger then him....but he will ev. grow up to them
<DuncanC> hey everyone
<Swimchic> yes
<mikeaus> hi
<Boris> hi Duncan
<Swimchic> do you have boobs
<mikeaus> hi S7L :)
<Swimchic> how many people in here have boobs
<loitus> Torbj: I just had an epiphany.. thank you..
<CalneCrusader> i wish i did
<DuncanC> Swimchic: sadly, no.  but I am a swimmer =)
<S7L> greetings Mike D.U.
<loitus> I don't. Yet.
<Torbj> epiphany?
<loitus> Look it up.
<loitus> ;)
<mikeaus> I finally woke up in time hehe-5.30am
<CalneCrusader> so.....Earth Twin anyone?
<S7L> Torbj: epiphany: appearance of some divine thing.
<Torbj> ahh...like the Bible!
<loitus> Twins?
<loitus> mmm
<SteveH> you can sleep in some more, Nancy will be about an hour or more late
<DuncanC> I'd like to take a vote:  How many people can prove that Mark Hazelwood is full of shit?
<Torbj> you have all read it!
<S7L> Torbj: can also be a 'deep realizing'
<SteveH> anyone who know PX is in the sun
<sirgrim> i can prove that mark hazelwood is a piece of shit
<sirgrim> if that counts
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<loitus> SirGrim: Do so, then.
<Torbj> thx,7!
<mikeaus> has there been any discussion of serious medical needs post-shift? ie. surgery,trauma,severe pain? will we receive help or have to do it ourselves?
<DuncanC> CalneCrusader:  I had heard that more than 1 fragment of the earth had broken off when the moon was formed, and became something like an Earth twin.  This is from the work of G.I. Gurdjieff
<CalneCrusader> isnt Mark Hazlewood saying exactly the same as nancy?
<S7L> DuncanC: not me. All I ever heard of the man was basically what Nancy told of him, and she didn't like mr. Mark. But from the emails that I have seen, I don't trust the man the slightest.
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<SteveH> mikeaus, no such discussion. we should be so lucky here...
<Jenkins3d> No, Nancy is for some reason going after him with little evidence of what she claims
<Neidic> If the earth has a twin, does that mean that there are other civilations?
<mikeaus> Duncan C: the Zs said the moon was captured by the Earth's gravity-it's not a break-off
<Swimchic> hi jenkins!!
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<CalneCrusader> She should love him, because he is spreading her message to the masses
<S7L> the Zetas suggested that there was a collision.
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<DuncanC> mikeaus: is that right?  huh...
<SteveH> Neidic: the Z's say the earth's twin is a dead planet
<S7L> CalneCrusader: she argues that Mark is spreading a subtly distorted message
<Jenkins3d> hey..
<Neidic> what does dead mean?
<S7L> but I think the true reason is that she is stealing her steam, her story.
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<SteveH> no life
<Jenkins3d> one that makes more sense
<superzod> j
<S7L> she is making the point that ZetaTalk is the true source of 2003 so very diligently.
<mikeaus> collision turned Earth from a waterworld to one with a huge gap-the Pacific-on one side
<Swimchic> you seem like such a nice person,   EVERyONe Jenkins is a nice person!  we should all say hi to him!!!
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<sirgrim> S7L: what do you think about 'global warming' and it's sudden super effects
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<Torbj> mik...if you do not count on your self, you will not get help....but if you count on your self..."i CAN"...then your hrlp is here for you!
<Jenkins3d> ok...who wants to see a pic of Swimchic??
<CalneCrusader> yes please
<mikeaus> thought so Torbj
<DuncanC> The thing I really really odn't like about ZT is:  1.  Nancy gives none of her personal background.  Big red flag.  2.  No other contactees have been given all this info.  A bit odd, yes?  Methinks a lot of it may be from Nancy's imagination.
<Swimchic> ahh, no ne
<S7L> sirgrim: there seems to be a continuous warming trend that coincides with humanity's CO2 emissions.
<Swimchic> no one
<sirgrim> here's 4 articles from just this year.
<sirgrim> Global Warming Strike Everest!
<sirgrim> Flowers blooming early in spring *Global warming strikes again!*
<sirgrim> Himalayan glaciers melting ('Global Warming' Strikes Again!)
<sirgrim> Recent Antarctic Ice Breakoff 'most serious' in 12,000 years.
<sirgrim> wagd.com/news.php
<loitus> Jenkins: I would absolutely love to...
<SteveH> if Mark Hazelwood is trying to put out a new date for the return of PX, 3.5 years later or whatever that could prove disasterous for many people
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<Swimchic> i like duncan, he seems smart
<S7L> sirgrim: secondly, it's indeed possible that we could flip the switch of global climate by deviating too far away from teh current established semistable status, if that even exists
<Swimchic> no, no one wants to seee a picture
<SteveH> even if he's suggesting it by innuendo
<mikeaus> 100 year storm in Chile.......100 year fire Denver.....100 year storm China
<CalneCrusader> YES I DO
<loitus> I don't? Oh ok.
<Jenkins3d> i'll post the link anyway
<loitus> Word
<Swimchic> mr jenkins, i must advise you not to
<loitus> oh oh
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<loitus> Do it!
<loitus> ;)
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<DuncanC> 100 year fire?  i don't know about that
<Jenkins3d> my computer is just about frozen..i'll do it later
<Swimchic> it is a horribly bad picture, but he knows of an even better one
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<SteveH> DuncanC: Nancy has given plenty of here background, it's the info she relays that's what count
<mikeaus> DuncanC: the problem with this being imagination is that events outside of anyone's control are corroborating ZT ie. earthquakes,storms etc
<loitus> Hmm..
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<mikeaus> also slowing rotation
<mikeaus> declining magnetosphere
<mikeaus> etc
<S7L> mikeaus: I just got from explaining that the earthquakes of 2002 have been quiet, not strong, as she claims, and secondly, the storms can be swept under carpet of global warming, which doesn't need to ahve anything to do with planet x.
<S7L> so those things are not direct evidence.
<S7L> or, even indirect evidence
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<Torbj> you have at many times encountered people with "imagination" and a "slippery tounge"....and emidiatly felt....shit.....but here you are.....witha a "warm" or "uplifting" feeeling reading what nancy writes/tell....not turning your back around!
<S7L> I guess the direct evidence is an actual sighting of the planet.
<CalneCrusader> THIS IS A PICCY OF ME - http://www.uglypeople.com/uglymen/html/up-men-00305.htm
<mikeaus> the quakes are not stronger,but more frequent
<SteveH> there was just an earthquake in Nevada the other day. An area thought to be very stable...
<loitus> hehe
<mikeaus> also,the USGS is fudging data re: strength
<S7L> SteveH: ah yes, that is very interesting trend.
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<mikeaus> but yes,the proof will be in the sighting
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<S7L> I should do some summings over their archives regarding areas, to see if there have been "migrations" of earthquake-active areas. Qutie potentially there have been
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<S7L> I just don't know the best method to achieve this.
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<CalneCrusader> the trouble is, no one has access to a telescope
<mikeaus> the Fiji region is highly active
<SteveH> I think the word about PX is beginning to explode now, many more people hearing about this from the Art Bell show etc
<S7L> I guess on first approximation I could simply draw visual charts of globe and put earthquakes on it as red flags, depending on strength and number etc.
<mikeaus> many deep quakes
<S7L> then I could flip through them in succession trying to see patterns that way.
<DuncanC> well, I did talk to a "Doctor" who told me in no uncertain terms, "It will be visible very soon"
<mikeaus> go to the USGS site S7L-they have a map of exactly that
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<S7L> generating those images from some simple-ish script should be possible.
<DuncanC> that really surprised me
<n>  If you see a planet it proves not much?
<S7L> mikeaus: oh right. Does that show anything?
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<mikeaus> I haven't gone through it all
<CalneCrusader> lo nancy is here
<DuncanC> especially since I had a degree of confidence in this guy, a microbiologist, etc
<mikeaus> hi Nancy :)
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<SteveH> wb
<loitus> Yay nancy's in da house.
<n>  It does nothing say if you see a planet
<S7L> Nancy, or some kind of bot. This is a "webchat" nancy, highly unusual.
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<NancyL> Hello all
<CalneCrusader> that aint the real nancy
* S7L shrugs. Maybe she is.
<Torbj> god evening!
<loitus> She's on AOL is that normal?
<DuncanC> NancyL is webchat@ACA1652C.ipt.aol.com * JAVA IRC Client
<CalneCrusader> AOL is never normal
<S7L> that is also a Nancy.
<S7L> this Nancy is the Nancy from her home, I take it.
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<S7L> that=there
<CalneCrusader> it might be a CIA opreative
<AGreenspan> Just repeat all your previous "compliments" and we'll probably be able to tell.
<S7L> Nancy [lieder@65-171-106-74.baraboo.com]
<mikeaus> *L*
<Bailey> good one green
<loitus> hmm
<CalneCrusader> naaah, its a man in black
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<NancyL> tata, hope nancy comes soon
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<DuncanC> heh
<CalneCrusader> told ya
<AGreenspan> Silence of the lambs.
<loitus> Ahhh well.. dang ho
<n>  If you see a planet it doesn't tell you about earthquakes.
<DuncanC> why have more contactees not come out?  Why Nancy and nancy only
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<CalneCrusader> i knew intuitively :)
<loitus> Duncan: The Zetads injected their DNA into her...
<loitus> ;)
<SteveH> NancyL pretender, maybe you should change your name otherwise there will be confusion with new people coming on etc
<mikeaus> others have DuncanC...they have books out-not forums
<S7L> DuncanC: the fact that Nancy were a special messenger is completely at odds with the fact that we're supposed to read about a _personal_ alien contact.
<n>  I see the moon , but i see no sea
<CalneCrusader> does nancy have an implant?
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<loitus> Some cool stuff on the Discovery channel,,,
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<loitus> implants?
<S7L> What would we need a centralized figure for, an emissary? Does that even compute with the rules she claims to relay, regarding the council of the worlds, or COW as short? Mooo! I think not.
<n>  Time will tell...
<bearbob455> What all are you people discussing?
<CalneCrusader> nancy
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<bearbob455> is she here?
<loitus> Whether or not she has implants?
<DuncanC> mikeaus: which other contactees?
<mikeaus> bear: see www.zetatalk.com
<S7L> I think she might be here.
<CalneCrusader> I AM NANCYL
<loitus> She's hiding.. watching.. making a list..
<n>  So , probally don't expect THE  big evidence
<DuncanC> ..checking it twice
<loitus> hehe
<mikeaus> Duncan: ZT mentions a few-sorry can't recall offhand
<mikeaus> try the Awakening section
<CalneCrusader> isnt it convenient that the zetas arent allowed to give nancy specific predictions?
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<loitus> I don't have long-distance.. I guess I can't make "The Call"...
<bearbob455> so nancy shan't come today?
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<Torbj> hav any of you ever gon out from the coast/seashore in a little boat...straight out...nothing but water in sight...knowing that mother/ground is waiting for you if you turn back?
<CalneCrusader> loiyus will make her come hes said :)
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<SteveH> loitus, just call 1-800- COLLECT
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<loitus> I'll make her come alright.. ;)
<CalneCrusader> lol
<Zetapal> nancy said she will be maybe an hour late today...
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<mikeaus> oh man and i got up early!
<CalneCrusader> loitus cant wait that long :-)
<loitus> I know the tornado technique..
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<CalneCrusader> is that loitus or coitus
<loitus> It was based on coitus..
<loitus> actually..
<Feverglow> Has Nancy ever talked about the Schumann Resonance???
<loitus> No
<CalneCrusader> no what is it?
<loitus> Never ever
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<loitus> ever ever ever
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<CalneCrusader> pray tell us feverglow
<bearbob455> has anyone ever seen a picture of nancy?
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<Jenkins3d> yessss
<loitus> Oh yes..
<loitus> Avoid them..
<CalneCrusader> oooohhh yeees
<bearbob455> where
<Feverglow> www.earthtransitions.com/shumann.htm
<loitus> www.alienporn.com
<CalneCrusader> shes no babe
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<Zetapal> Well, I have been trying to get past this router firewall to send you guys a copy of the ART BELL interview for the last 2hours...no luck..sorry...but if any of you have it, I'm sure many in here would like a copy if you could offer to share...
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<loitus> In the 1930s physicist Heinrich Schumann discovered a permanent standing wave in the atmosphere, resonating between the Earth's surface and the ionosphere. This wave, known as the Schumann Resonance, "Gaia's brain wave" or simply the Earth Wave, is fed by lightning discharges and the planet's internal electromagnetic activity. By a rather stunning coincidence, its frequency fluctuates slowly between 9 and 12 cycles per second - right in the heart of
<mikeaus> that'd be good Z
<Feverglow> shumann may also be a cause for earth changes
<CalneCrusader> that alienporn.com is fucking hilarious
<loitus> yah
<bearbob455> well good bye all, mr. jenkins please tell me if she ever makes her prense known
<bearbob455> presence
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<Jenkins3d> ok
<loitus> me need beer.
<loitus> me get beer
<loitus> brb
<DuncanC> loitus: 9 & 12 cyc/sec, right in the heart of what?
<loitus> *shrug* leave me be, I'm getting BEER..
<AGreenspan> He lost the page
<Torbj> here we are tonight.....going straight out....just water in sight....with a feeling that if we come back next saturday, Mother will be her to comfort us.....YOU MUST STAND ON YOU OWN LEGS!!...and you most certanly will, soon....
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<mikeaus> very poetic Torbj
<CalneCrusader> i dont have legs torbj, i am in a wheelchair and i dont find that funny
<cybercli> Will Nancy be joining us later?
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<Torbj> you must sit in you own weels, then...is that better caln?
<CalneCrusader> yes, shes just popped out for group sex in a ufo with some zeta pals
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<DuncanC> lol
<SteveH> CalneCrusader, she's with her sister who's in the hospital... try to be decent
<CalneCrusader> sorry
<DuncanC> can anyone verify for me whether or not Rife Machines are legit for curing viral infections, like HIV/cancer BX/BY, etc?
<SteveH> just be thankful I'm not obany
<CalneCrusader> lol
<bluelimestones> bummer, no show this morning?
<CalneCrusader> you gotta have a laugh in life sometimes though
<SteveH> well there's humour and then there's just being an idiot
<SteveH> but believe me, I am laughing at you!
<DuncanC> Rife Machines, anyone?
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<CalneCrusader> whats a rife machine?
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<SteveH> wish I has a good one
<Zetapal> you know if the visitors want a sperm sample,there's no sex,they just trigger some switch in your brain and 'spurt' ...right in to the test tube...no kidding...lol
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<CalneCrusader> wish my wife could learn that one
<Torbj> laygh in the negative...is that really a laugh, wheelchairCaln?
<DuncanC> rife: http://www.rense.com/health/rife.htm
<DuncanC> Zetapal:  contactees talk about alien sex
<mikeaus> S7L: try this site: http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/
<bluelimestones> say seeing how nancys not here ,how bout some1 here take over her role for a little while?
<DuncanC> Zetapal: ala "Abduction", John Mack MD
<CalneCrusader> i aint really in a wheelchair Torbj,,,it was a joke
<S7L> mikeaus: yes seems correct for usgs.
<S7L> Thanks, I'll check it a little later.
<CalneCrusader> CAN I ORETEND TO BE NANCY?
<Zetapal> sure Duncan but one thing doesn't preclude the other...
<DuncanC> hehe
<mikeaus> no probs
<SteveH> well, why not just anyone who has any questions just ask and then maybe some good ones can come out for when Nancy gets back
<CalneCrusader> ZETA: OK HUSH FOLKS, ZETAS ARE READY
<DuncanC> indeed
<Torbj> it was not, Caln....you are most sertenly in a "weelchair".....as i am.....
<CalneCrusader> ZETA: PLANET X IS INBOUND
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<DuncanC> Does anyone subscribe to the Disclosure Project d-list?
<Torbj> cant move......stucked here.....
<DuncanC> Greer says he has insiders that say that a UFO menace is going to be the trigger for the NWO/One world gov't.  Uniting against a hoaxed alien threat
<Torbj> want something more "......"....nice?
<CalneCrusader> well he would wouldnt he
<DuncanC> which puts an interesting spin on things...
<Zetapal> sex dreams/acts in/out of body for the sake of intimacy or other goal doesn't negate the process of sperm collection of a human in a semi/un conscious state for science purposes
<bluelimestones> quest, i saw the latest crop cirles, can u interpret the last few crop cirlcles, the one with the big cirlce and two little cirles ?
<DuncanC> http://www.disclosureproject.org/cosmicdeception.htm
<loitus> ahh beer gotten.. me happy.
<CalneCrusader> louitus returns
<Feverglow> What were you saying about shumann?
<loitus> me?
<CalneCrusader> going for a beer too...back in a mo
<Zetapal> what kind of beer loitus?
<Feverglow> yea
<loitus> Nothing.. I copied that from some page.. so people would know what it is.
<Feverglow> ok
<loitus> I'm drinking Coors Extra Gold.. but I'm a DosEquis lover by heart..
<Feverglow> maybe that is what is causing earthchanges
<loitus> beer?
<Feverglow> shumann
<loitus> oh
<Zetapal> I've got a harpoon IPA I think I'll pop open...very hoppy...very hoppy
<DuncanC> Pabst Blue Ribbon all the way
<bluelimestones> can some one give their interpretation/opinion on the latest crop cirlce?
<Feverglow> suprised that nancy hasnt talked about it
<DuncanC> nothing like cheap college beer
<Torbj> anyone in here thatīs masturbated in a "peculiar" place this last weekīs??
<loitus> ahhh... Blue Velvet?
<Zetapal> the beast
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<DuncanC> lol tjorb
<Zetapal> 4.97 a 12 pack
<DuncanC> que ridiculo
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<DuncanC> beast is undrinkable
<Zetapal> yup
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<DuncanC> I prefer keystone light
<DuncanC> that shit is like water
<loitus> Yup
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<loitus> Bud Ice is good for that too... and Icehouse
<CalneCrusader> drinking MGD at the mo
<DuncanC> ice beers are the death of me ;)
<loitus> ha
<loitus> Boddingtons is a great beer but hard to get..
<Zetapal> all american beers give me headache...except for Sam Adams and other microbrews
<loitus> Pete's Wicked is nice..
<CalneCrusader> I have three crates of MGD in my bunker ready for the pole shift
<loitus> hehe
<DuncanC> haha
<DuncanC> you do not have a bunker...
<CalneCrusader> gonna drink myself shitless when it happens
<DuncanC> lol
<loitus> I'll smoke myself away...
<DuncanC> seriously...  give me a big fat spliff and I'll sit by the beach...
<loitus> No doubt.. just watch it all go down.. be like, "Wow."
<CalneCrusader> whats the best way to commit suicide when it happens?
<DuncanC> ocean, no doubt
<bluelimestones> to hell with the pole shift, whose to say u wont die befor the day come round???
<DuncanC> pacific coast
<loitus> Try to kill G.W. the secret service will do it for you.
<DuncanC> bluelimestones:  good point, you could get hit by a truck
<DuncanC> hehe
<loitus> or get eaten by a shark
<S7L> CalneCrusader: I think a number of drugs could be used to cause a relatively painless death, unless you insisted experiencing death consciously.
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<S7L> drowning is a relatievly painless method, if a tad uncomfortable.
<CalneCrusader> i thought of death by chocolate
<loitus> Eat Taco Bell every day for a week.
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<SteveH> question for ZT: What can the average amateur who is interested in spotting Planet X expect to see when that area becomes visible in the night sky? How difficult will it be to see?
<Zetapal> hey Duncan don't bogart that thing...
<DuncanC> if you are hit by a 500 foot high wave
<DuncanC> drowning is the least of your worries
<loitus> heh
<CalneCrusader> ZT TO STEVEH: fUCKING DIFFICULT IN THE UK COS ITS ALWAYS RAINING
<DuncanC> hehe
<S7L> I'd not suggest committing a suicide even if it comes true.
<DuncanC> I know, i know
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<bluelimestones> i love the rain
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<DuncanC> my question is
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<DuncanC> imagine we can see this thing
<S7L> I mean, even if you were sure you wouldn't want to survive the aftertime, why not check first for a few weeks if the aftertime will really be as bad as it's claimed to be.
<DuncanC> sci.astro shits the bed
<loitus> I just want a good view when it happens.. I want to watch the news anchors go nuts... etc..
<DuncanC> how long before the world knows?
<DuncanC> how long before meltdown?
<CalneCrusader> I AM GONNA RUN UP A HUGE CREDIT CARD BILL NEXT SPRIL
<DuncanC> hehe
<loitus> hehe
<bluelimestones> how do u post on sci astro?
<CalneCrusader> april
<DuncanC> calne: haha, yeah I thought of that
<DuncanC> bluelimestones: www.google.com
<bluelimestones> ta
<CalneCrusader> i am gonna live like a king for 3 months then commit suicide
<SteveH> nice plan stan
<DuncanC> like...  as soon as the astronomical community realizes that this is bound to happen...  Shit will hit the fan very very quickly
<loitus> Hey.. that's service-to-self.. ;)
<Zetapal> loitus you and me both man - I'll be listening to Stern and Bell to see what they say too
<Torbj> hope someone of you will miss me when i log off....
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<S7L> what if planet x comes and is proved to be the greatest non-event in the show-biz history? Then you got this outstanding debt...
<Torbj> bye.....
<loitus> hehe Stern would be funny to hear..
<Cruithne> i', pack scuba gear just N case it's neesed
<Phiner> what would be the best ways to filter out water afterwards?
<DuncanC> yeah it is.  Just move to a safe place and get ready to live in a hole in the ground off rehydrated beans for dinner and crickets for dessert
<S7L> Phiner: I hear it's a method of distillation
<Phiner> okay
<CalneCrusader> yes buy a life jacket and scuba geaqr then u are safe lol
<S7L> though nothing would prevent securing enough filtering devices to cover water needs for one person for a few months
<loitus> I'll be in Disney World on May 15th
<Phiner> I know you can distill water, but regular distillation can take a long time....
<mikeaus> yep distillation is very simple
<bluelimestones> physical death is an inconvienience
<DuncanC> see if PX is a non event, I really hope Nancy is ready for that... that would hit her somewhat hard, yes?
<mikeaus> yes takes time tho
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<loitus> I'm sure she'll find a spot in her brain for a bullet,.
<CalneCrusader> i think she really believes herself
<mikeaus> maybe 2 litres per hour
<Phiner> oh?
<DuncanC> CalneCrusader: sure she does
<SteveH> the are some ones you can buy that you just heat over the stove or a fire
<DuncanC> I mean, that would be a major problem.  like, "Uh-oh, time to start hittin the THorazine tabs"
<DuncanC> "I guess the voices in my head aren't quite so real" ;)
<loitus> We'll never see StarWars 3,  Indiana Jone 4, Matrix 2 & 3.. dammit to hell
<Cruithne> they maybe real but misleading
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<DuncanC> "Maybe I'm not Moses"
<DuncanC> well they're definitely real to her
<loitus> We'll get to see The Tow Tower...
<CalneCrusader> funny that the zetas travel 20 light years to see nancy and then hey presto they speak perfect english
<loitus> two
<Zetapal> Stern's not gonna have a clue...he's in denial of cosmic things...but Bell's been prepped now,Rense too, they'll know what it is when they see it and will disregard the propaganda machine if its still functioning...that goes for sci astro too...they've been prepped
<Phiner> well, with a inclined solar distilation 'thing' that's about 8 sq. ft. in area will make about a gallon of water every 5 hours.....is this accuate?
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<DuncanC> CalneCrusader:  it's thought-to-thought...
<mikeaus> you don't need something that fancy Phiner
<S7L> DuncanC: what makes you so sure that she is sincerely believing she is hearing a telepathic voice?
<mikeaus> just two containers,a pipe,tubing and a fire
<DuncanC> Zetapal: yeah.  I think part of the reason Nancy was on Art was that he is starting to put 2 and 2 together
<loitus> pipe?
<loitus> fire?
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<loitus> you forgot weed..
<mikeaus> yes
<DuncanC> S7L:  because there is no other plausible option that I can think of
<CalneCrusader> if PX shows up then I need a plan to get laid as many times as possible before I die
<loitus> Bunny Ranch..
<DuncanC> calne:  you won't be short on pickup lines
<loitus> They accept credit..
<loitus> ;)
<CalneCrusader> lol
<CalneCrusader> :)
<Phiner> okay, yes, distillation by boiling may be faster, that's for sure....just not quite as easy....
<DuncanC> "yo, the world's gonna end, wanna come back to my place?"
<S7L> DuncanC: the posters on sci.astro have determined that Nancy's delusions about science and her planet X are intentional and do not respond to patient teaching, as it's stated in the sci.astro FAQ concerning Nancy. I have often been wondering if this really were simply intentional hoax. But alas, I think Nancy weren't capable of that calculatedness
<mikeaus> no but there won't be any sunlight due to the volcanic "winter"
<DuncanC> S7L: exactly
<loitus> The red glow of Planet X make your eyes just shine...
<CalneCrusader> ''hey babe, wanna get a look at my huge red comet''
<DuncanC> S7L:  It shows their poor judgement of character that they think she is a scam artist.. <sigh>
<Phiner> oh, jeeze....O_o
<S7L> DuncanC: sci.astro has more loonies than you can shake a stick at
<DuncanC> Phiner:  Distillation by boiling is I think the best method, yes?
<Phiner> I don't know whether this whole thing is real or not, but I figure that I might as well be prepared if it does...
<mikeaus> same
<DuncanC> S7L:  I want to give THolen what he deserves...
<S7L> and Nancy is fairly similar to other loonies which have proved to be dangerous to their followers
<Phiner> DuncanC:yes, I think it is
<Zetapal> I hope so Duncan...PlanetX theory fills in all the gaps...and you know Art's been studying/writing about the gaps for years...you could tell on Wednesdays show that he was just BEGINNING to see how the pieces fall into place...if he spends more time contemplating it and actually reading ZT,he'll become more convinced,as long as his fear doesn't distract him
<mikeaus> I'm buying a .223 next week
<S7L> and it seems nancy's followers consider getting economic debt, selling the house, and moving somewhere claimed safe
<DuncanC> Phiner:  Tom Brown writes some great wilderness survival handbooks.  I have them all
<S7L> which means that there is at least economic risk to being a follower of nancy
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<CalneCrusader> i already bought a bazooka just for safety
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<Zetapal> we're not followers , we're listeners...big difference
<Phiner> DuncanC: he does? Where can I find his books?
<DuncanC> S7L:  if you sell the farm at this point, well, you know what they say about a fool and his money...
<S7L> so, whatever way, nancy might not have bad intentions but it could end up a bit worse for some people than it needs to
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<Zetapal> always willing to listen
<DuncanC> Phiner:  amazon has them.  "Tom Brown" is the name.  Wilderness Survival and "Living with the earth" are gems
<CalneCrusader> if shes wrong then i think someone will shoot her
<DuncanC> CalneCrusader:  I really hope not
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<CalneCrusader> its the only way relly
<DuncanC> S7L:  yeah that's the risk she is taking here.
<CalneCrusader> really
<loitus> It is, really.
<Phiner> DuncanC: if I can't buy it online, do you think Books-a-millon has it?
<S7L> I also have concluded that nancy is sincere
<CalneCrusader> a sincere nut, thats nice
<S7L> but then again, so are loonies who believe taht the government is poisoning them and staging operations in order to control them and throw them in jail
<DuncanC> But I was discussing this with some friends..  the sad fact is that if you're preparing, you'll probably need guns.  Other people will be coming at you for your resources, and wtf are you going to do
<S7L> just today, I heard about a guy who was alking about Communist Gangster Computer God
<CalneCrusader> osama bin laden is sincere
<loitus> I really think that if it doesn't pan out, she'll come up w/ some BS excuse.. but the following will be gone then.. and she'll be no different than a nut on the street proclaiming the apocalypse is coming.
<DuncanC> CalneCrusader: no basis for comparison there
<CalneCrusader> if shes wrong there is a basis
<loitus> It will be like Mad Max if it happens.. 2 Man enter 1 man leave!
<S7L> loitus: she already has come up with Bs excuses for why Planet X isn't visible.
<CalneCrusader> they are both zealots,,,IF she is wrong
<S7L> Her favourite excuse of late is "bending of red light".
<DuncanC> loitus:  yeah,  my thought was that if it doesn't come around, she'll say, 'What do you know, the Earth's moved into 4th density, leaving the 3rd density PX behind!  We're all saved!  Don't you feel more telepathic already?"
<loitus> s7l: exactly
<Zetapal> close the book,close your mind...
<SteveH> question for ZT: with Nancy's recent appearance on Art Bell and the subsequent PX question session a few days later and with the huge audience that show commands, how has this affected the general population (in the US anyways) becoming aware and what are their reactions?
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<DuncanC> S7L:  light does bend, contrary to what the eggheads say: http://www.geocities.com/xulfrepus/docs/gravity.html
<CalneCrusader> ZT TO STEVE: TO BUY CRATES OF MGD
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<Zetapal> good question...but answer will prob be "more of the same"
<DuncanC> Calne stfu....
<loitus> What beer do the Zeta's recommend?
<loitus> Zima?
<Cruithne> people in Us of A still just see the car bumper in front of them not the red liTe ahead
<loitus> hehe
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<Zetapal> zetas don't eat they float
<Cruithne> to busy going to work for BiLL's
<CalneCrusader> so you belive it then DuncanC?
<Zetapal> and listen to music
<Phiner> float?
<DuncanC> sirgrim: cannabis plants won't grow without sunlight, bro
<loitus> I want to get stoned w/ a Zeta.
<sirgrim> i can make some sunlight
<loitus> Duncan: You can use artificial lighting..
<loitus> Hydroponics etc..
<S7L> DuncanC: I am fairly skeptical of this site by the look of it. Is this actual established scientific thought?
<loitus> No
<DuncanC> you will want to use your electricity for other things, i assure you
<sirgrim> might take a while to get all setup
<Cruithne> mushrooms are growable without sun
<sirgrim> naw
<loitus> Like what?
<loitus> Light??
<Zetapal> they float in tanks of nutrient liquid and listen to music while they absorb...
<DuncanC> S7L:  you tell me.
<loitus> ha
<CalneCrusader> If its true, then why aren't zetas walking around the city centre sidewalks?
<Cruithne> & flourish
<loitus> Who needs light..
<Phiner> here's a question. "I would really like to be able to contact a zeta if they really do exist, but I have no idea how... O_o
<DuncanC> S7L:  It explains a lot about quantum mechanics
<S7L> pretty pictures, but I have hard time imagining any experiments that could confirm these
<loitus> Phiner: Make THE CALL
<Cruithne> some room's get people intoxicaTed too
<Cruithne> & nourish them
<CalneCrusader> 0800-121-600-zeta
<Phiner> I've heard that, but I don't know really how to do that.....although, I have tried, but no luck yet
<loitus> Stock up on E..
<DuncanC> S7L: Your guess is as good as mine.  I like how it explains atomic interactions, merges scale, etc
<loitus> Phiner: Just use 1-800-Call-Att
<DuncanC> S7L:  also oyu need to start from the beginning
<Zetapal> Calne if its true you assume they would have to walk around city center sidewalks. why that assumption?
<loitus> I want a Segway...
<loitus> dammit
<CalneCrusader> well have you seen a zeta?
<S7L> DuncanC: what the hell is this stuff?
<Zetapal> segways are cool
<Phiner> and on a side note, I don't like what Nancy was saying on her site or on radio saying that dolphins are basically as smart as a dog, I believe they are far smarter than that.....
<sirgrim> cannibus plants can be used for medicine, rope, clothing, and i like to smoke it
<loitus> yup
<sirgrim> i bet i could find a way to use the oil as a fuel as well
<loitus> Food too..
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<CalneCrusader> well DuncanC, have you seen a zeta or do you have a photo of one?
<loitus> We must carry on the knowledge of intoxicants.. for our children..
<loitus> ;)
<Cruithne> :)
<Zetapal> I'll answer your question if you answer mine...quid pro quo
<loitus> Calne: There's photos on www.alienporn.com
<loitus> For real dude
<Phiner> yes, I know a lot of their brain is for the acustical stuff and with communication, but their brains are about as large as ours and has folds twice as deep as our own...
<CalneCrusader> lol louitus
<DuncanC> CalneCrusader:  I've had some very bizzare dreams that seem to have come out of nowhere, but consciously no I haven't seen shit =)
<loitus> They got some wrinkly brains...
<CalneCrusader> well then
<Phiner> lol
<Phiner> yes, that's true. ;>
<CalneCrusader> if you bizarre dreams, dont eat so much cheese
<loitus> I hate dolphins..
<loitus> They start shit..
<Phiner> why??
<loitus> Got bad attitudes..
<Phiner> how?
<Zetapal> oh so if you haven't seen a zeta then they don't exist...nice logic...truely
<DuncanC> sirgrim:  I've thought about that, but the problem with growing cannabis is again the enormous light requirements.  Not saying it's impossible, just muy muy dificil
<loitus> I like to smack them around..
<Phiner> not most of the time, they don'
<Phiner> don't
<DuncanC> dolphins are sweet
<loitus> I'm for Dolphin segregation..
<DuncanC> they will defend you from sharks
<Phiner> hey!
<CalneCrusader> no zetapal, but dont accept stuff until you have evidence
<loitus> They always poke me in my bum..
<loitus> They won't stop..
<loitus> I gotta punch 'em in the nose.
<sirgrim> DuncanC: cannibas is a beautiful plant, and addapts quickly, i bet in 3 generations i could have a hybrid that doesn't require as much light or water, and produces a thicker stalk
<Zetapal> who's accepting???
<loitus> Sir: Call me when you do.
<Phiner> if you hate them so much, loitus, then why are you around them?????
<cybercli> bum?
<Zetapal> stuff???
<sirgrim> amazing what an edge knowledge gives u
<loitus> Phiner: They're a good lay.
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<DuncanC> sirgrim:  well, best of luck.  If you can get me a sativa that has sufficient stalk for fiber as well buds enormously with little sunlight, I'll take it =)
<Phiner> jeeze......if you hate them so much, then why in heck would you do that with a dolphin????
<loitus> They is so soft.. and wet.. and perty... ;)
<CalneCrusader> i once had a dolphin
<loitus> had?
<loitus> oh oh
<Phiner> oh? You did, CalneCrusader?
<CalneCrusader> cost me 5 bucks
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<loitus> hehe
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<loitus> Dolphin sex rocks.
<Zetapal> considering an idea is not believing in it...do we really have to go back this far...does it need to be said?
<Phiner> loitus: do you, or do you not hate dolphins??
<loitus> I like bangin' them, but they got a serious attitude problem..
<CalneCrusader> they are a bit fishy
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<CalneCrusader> they like it wet
<loitus> Go to www.dolphinsex.org
<loitus> heh
<CalneCrusader> and the flipper gets in the way
<loitus> The blow hole is always fun..
<CalneCrusader> hahahaha
<S7L> DuncanC: this person in fact sounds funnily like some bright kind in his 20s. I'm amused, if nothing else -- I'll read this entirely.
<Phiner> is it just me, or am I really lagging?
<loitus> Q2) How do I know if a dolphin wants to have sex?
<loitus> A2) There are various ways a dolphin has of showing that she or he is interested in sex.
<loitus> WARNING! In the considerations of safety, you should NEVER let a male dolphin attempt anal sex with you. The Bottle-nose dolphin member is around 12 inches, very muscular, and the thrusting and the force of ejaculation (A male can come as far as 14 feet) would cause serious internal injuries, resulting in peritonitus and possible death. Unless you are the masochistic type, you will have a hard time explaining your predicament to the doctors in the em
<loitus> My god that is funny shit...
<CalneCrusader> their teeth play hell with your foreskin
<DuncanC> haha
<loitus>  feet?????
<loitus> 14
<loitus> Dolphin bukkake must rock...
<Phiner> lol\
<Zetapal> considering and listening doesn't require that you accept or reject...why do you feel you must do either? aren't you capable of just being undecided...why must there be factions and opinions?  does an opinion make it more or less true or a falsehood? no of course not...then why?  these are games people play in order to feel that they have a hand in deciding what will be and what won't...its folly...it doesn't matter what you think..
<Zetapal> or I for that matter...this should be obvious
<Phiner> that's very true Zetapa
<loitus> Exactly.. we are just humans
<Phiner> l
<Cruithne> people r animals too
<Zetapal> thank you
<DuncanC> word
<CalneCrusader> zetapal, what has that got to do with dolphin sex/
<DuncanC> thankfully nothing
<Phiner> right... ;>
<loitus> People are so flawed and screwed up.. and destroy their enviroment so willfully.. why should we be helped by any aliens? We are a plague..
<Zetapal> Calne thankfully, absolutely nothing...
<Phiner> yeah :>
<loitus> Christ! We scre dolphins!!!
<loitus> screw
<CalneCrusader> were all gonna die next may so you might as well just laugh about it :)
<Cruithne> lol
<DuncanC> loitus:  We're a mess, I agree.  Cancerous, sadly
<Phiner> I'm going to be one of the one's trying to live! I have too much to live for to just crawl up in a hole and die.
<CalneCrusader> die in the loving arms of free willy
<loitus> I want to explain to the confederation of the world why we screw dolphins.. that would be monumental...
<DuncanC> im sure that has a lot to do with the Hybrid Project, etc
<Zetapal> no we're not...you're throwing the baby out with the bath water...
<CalneCrusader> the dolphin out with the bath water
<loitus> Maybe the Zetas dig on dolphins too. Maybe that's why they say they aren't smart so they can have them all to themselves.. bastards
<Phiner> And I'm glad to be as healthy as I've been.....I haven't been sick at all for two years...
<loitus> It would suck to have the flu when planet x comes.
<CalneCrusader> lol
<DuncanC> heh yeah kick ya when youre down
<CalneCrusader> yes phiner, you'll be dead you idiot
<loitus> Be all hopped up on Nyquil, be like Huh?
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<DuncanC> lol
<Zetapal> the goal of embodyment is soul growth...so if we invent plastic then like George Carlin says, the earth will just invent a new paradigm fo itself,"the earth plus plastic"
<Phiner> how do you know that?
<CalneCrusader> zetas told me
<CalneCrusader> i channel dolphins
<Phiner> I WILL be one of the 10% to survive....
<loitus> I make "the call" to dolphins..
<CyberVViz> i channel marsmellows
<loitus> I implant my DNA in dolphins..
<CalneCrusader> thats not what flipper told me
<loitus> ;)
<DuncanC> Zetapal:  I agree, however when the organism's behavior threatens the entire ecosystem then it threatens that goal, simply because a population this large is not sustainable.
<Phiner> true
<CyberVViz> there is still enough room on Earth, it is only to high concetrated in some regions
<SteveH> I read an article last week of this famous dolphin somehwere which became sexually frustrated and began to try to have sex with the people in the water
<Zetapal> very good point Duncan...so good in fact I will concur,thanks
<CalneCrusader> yes it was loiyus
<loitus> There is still 10 acres to each person on earth.. or something like that.
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<DuncanC> I mean, we're really shooting ourselves in the foot by behaving like we are..  I think that's obvious to everyone but ourselves, hence the hybrid project.  imho
<CalneCrusader> whos got my 10 acres then?
<CyberVViz> Bin laden ;-)
<loitus> Humans are deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeply flawed creatures.. we live in complete DISharmony w/ our enviroment UNLIKE every other animal on Earth...
<CalneCrusader> 10 litres to each dolphin
<Cruithne> there's plenty of food it's the distribution that's needed
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<Phiner> yeah
<Zetapal> then perhaps it could be said we are a plague unto ourselves
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<loitus> Exactly..
<loitus> We are a virus...
<CyberVViz> no, the problem are merchants
<loitus> Like Agent Smith said..
<DuncanC> we have advanced exponentially in the material sense but spiritually we are way way behind, the balance is so far off, it's obvious something has to be done, hence PX? just a thought
<CalneCrusader> noy phinus he has been plague free
<Phiner> like it said on the Matrix. ;>
<Zetapal> then you have my vote
<CyberVViz> they make to much profits and wish to make more and more
<DuncanC> loitus: gotta love the matrix
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<Phiner> lol. yeah
<SteveH> too bad Matrix Reloaded comes out May 25, 2003
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<loitus> That's why I'm pissed. We'll never see Matrix 2 & 3!!!
<CalneCrusader> well you can watch it as your house falls down
<DuncanC> haha yeah it's a shame.  if ALiyah hadn't passed on it would be out sooner
<sirgrim> i don't think we're far behind at all, i think we have too little time is the problem
<sirgrim> if the PX scenario is right
<loitus> I'll trek to WB's lot and see if I can find a print of them..
<Phiner> I do hope that the internet does, in fact, survive
<loitus> For porn at least.
<CalneCrusader> yes so we can chat about dolphins again
<sirgrim> dolphin porn?
<loitus> Word
<DuncanC> yeah... I'm not completely sold on the 3,600 year theory, but yeah
<Zetapal> lol-think of all the college undergrads out there-or the guy getting ready to retire and buy that new RV now the kids have finally moved out...
<loitus> Imagine winning the lottery on May 14
<CalneCrusader> i feel really unlucky to be born in the wrong bit of the 3600 year cycle - what a stupid cunt my spirit must be
<loitus> DOH!
<DuncanC> hey, *I'M* a college undergrad!
<CyberVViz> So if the world is almost destroyed in 2003, why is the photonbelt until 2012 ?
<sirgrim> immagine getting hit by a car when you get to your safe spot
<Zetapal> lottery winner...rotfl
<loitus> hehe
<CyberVViz> hehe
<DuncanC> CyberVViz:  can you link me to the photon belt material?  I have no clue what that is all about.  I mean, so what if we're bombarded by more photons?
<Zetapal> yeah...Ed McMahon shows up at the door May14th...
<DuncanC> Ka-BOOM!
<loitus> Or you're about to get head from that chick you always wanted to bang then BAM Planet X falls right into your lap.
<sirgrim> photon man probed me
<Phiner> that would suck....O_o
<CalneCrusader> cya l8rs folks gottta go........its been nice
<DuncanC> l8
<CyberVViz> Q4Nancy: If the World reaches his endpoint why does the Photonbelt (confirmed) floats until 2012 :-)
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<Phiner> what's the Photonbelt?
<Zetapal> the pub clearing house prize patrol van is speeding down the street ,running from a wave
<DuncanC> CyberVViz:  canyou link me to some hard photonbelt evidence?
<DuncanC> hehe
<CyberVViz> Answer: Photonbelt www.maitreya-edu.org channels Maitreya
<agentY> .o.
<Phiner> okay
<CyberVViz> Look to Your watch :-) compressing or compacting of time :-))
<sirgrim> lol, and you call nancy a cook
<DuncanC> not exactly the hard evidence I was looking for
<agentY> kook
<CyberVViz> hehe look with Your 3th eye not with Your two lowers :-))
<loitus> time doesn't exist, it's an organizational tool
<Zetapal> storm chasers turn into storm escapers...
<S7L> I can experience the passage of time. I'd be inclined to claim it does exist...
<CyberVViz> true at some plane of perception
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<Phiner> time does exist, but it's just in how we percieve it that makes the difference
<Phiner> time, space, and matter all affect eachother one way or another...
<Cruithne> achoo
<Phiner> ?
<DuncanC> I really like this site's description of matter/space/time/energy: http://www.geocities.com/xulfrepus/
<Phiner> and this is just an oddball question, but is there anyone here who has never had a headache?
<Zetapal> no more summer blockbuster movies...
<Zetapal> who here will file their taxes?...
<Zetapal> prob everyone
<DuncanC> Considering your own mortality is a very healthy thing to do.  PX or no PX, it's made me think
<S7L> DuncanC: I believe this person "James Clifford Cranwell" has not captured essence of universe in his equations of describings.
<Zetapal> just in case
<Cruithne> i will on 1/8/2003  i get $ back h& r will write the check on the spot
<CyberVViz> I am not mortal are You DuncanC :-)
<Cruithne> yippie
<DuncanC> S7L:  I was impressed by how it explains chemical interactions
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<Zetapal> who here will go in to work on May 15th?
<DuncanC> CyberVViz:  my flesh is mortal, if that's what you mean
<Phiner> I will be a senior in HS then....
<CyberVViz> okido :-)
<Zetapal> skip
<Zetapal> lol
<DuncanC> Zetapal:  depends on what the weather's like
<Phiner> lol
<Phiner> true
<Zetapal> lol
<Phiner> do you think I will be safe here in Florida?
<Zetapal> today will be sunny...
<DuncanC> Phiner:  you're not in Largo/Tampa area are you?
<Phiner> no....I'm in the north central florida area...
<Cruithne> florida is flat low land,,uh oh
<DuncanC> Dang... there's a doc there that confirmed PX to me...
<Phiner> yeah, pretty much....
<SteveH> not good for florida...
<DuncanC> I really want to confirm his credentials
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<loitus> NJ is screwed oh well
<Phiner> O_o
<DuncanC> Western PA all the way
<loitus> word
<Zetapal> some firery precipitation is expected in the dowtown area...call 12 on your side
<DuncanC> hehe
<Cruithne> is maine safe
<Phiner> I doubt it...
<DuncanC> imagine clouds of fire raining down... yikes
<loitus> It'll be like ID4
<Phiner> I heard that to be safe, you should be about 150 mi. inland....
<loitus> the end that is
<Cruithne> i have noticed clouds r falt on bottom
<Cruithne> flat
<Phiner> yeah.....especially the cumulus and nimbostratus clouds
<sirgrim> havn't seen clouds in a while, too much smoke
<Phiner> oh?
<DuncanC> hey has anyone read this recent "Cosmic Deception" paper by Dr. Greer?  http://www.disclosureproject.org/cosmicdeception.htm
<Phiner> where are you?
<sirgrim> colorado
<Phiner> I haven't....
<loitus> F-ing chem-trails.
<sirgrim> no chemtrails since the fire either
<Phiner> yeesh
<loitus> I got plenty here
<loitus> X..
<Phiner> lots of fires in Colorado
<loitus> Tic tac toes..
<Zetapal> coastal inundation all the way back to the blue ridge mountains might produce some problems for you afternoon commute...now for our eye in the sky traffic report here's Don...Don...Don are you there...
<DuncanC> it's worth a read.  this guy has been assembling UFO/ET project insiders and whistleblowers, he's got some interesting theories
<DuncanC> chemtrails... man I am not cool with that shit at ALL
<Phiner> actually two rather large ones, right, sirgrim?
<loitus> Disclosure Project WOULD be cool... if it wasn't a PAY site.. seems like a jip.
<Phiner> I still don't really understand chemtrails...
<loitus> No one does
<sirgrim> like 2 large ones and 2 smaller ones or something
<loitus> That's what is scary
<DuncanC> loitus:  disclosureproj is legit, imo
<loitus> I'm just cheap
<Cruithne> i think the haarp that angels don't play is possible cause of a event of poleshift senario
<DuncanC> Cruithne:  what's the skinny on Haarp?
<Phiner> if I played any instrument in heaven, it would be flute! That's what I play now. hehe ;>
<Cruithne> playing with the atomosphere
<DuncanC> worldwide weather modification?  What's the evidence?
<Cruithne> lifting it etc
<Phiner> I'm the first male flute player that was at my middle and high school!
<Phiner> ;>
<DuncanC> where's the evidence?  why are people so concerned
<Cruithne> also possible mind ctrl
<Cruithne> it's on the web  search
<DuncanC> see, the problem with mind control is that it opens the door to too many possibilities.
<DuncanC> suddenly EVERYONE could be a mind control slave, it's like a bad campfire story
<Phiner> true...
<loitus> Male flute player? Oh oh... skin flute>
<Phiner> hey!!
<Phiner> not that kind of flute.
<Phiner> ;>
<loitus> ;)
<Cruithne> it's tesla technology
<loitus> Tesla's genius will prbably never truly be known.. it's a shame.
<Cruithne> it's known to those who scoffed up his papers at death
<CyberVViz> Remember a lot of people are already mind controled by surround spirits
<DuncanC> cruithne:  interesting... when I visited the land around Area 51 in 1996 they had these tesla-coil looking things to demarcate the perimeter of the base
<Cruithne> don't know
<Phiner> that's interesting
<DuncanC> CyberVViz:  hmm yeah i buy that, to a certain extent
<loitus> Tesla in my opinion had the ability if as respected as Einstein to truly elevate humanity to the next "level"
<DuncanC> subtle realms, etc
<DuncanC> loitus:  true of so many sqelched inventors
<loitus> Edison was a fool he was a caveman compared to Tesla
<Cruithne> yes
<loitus> Wires???
<Cruithne> direct current
<loitus> Tesla could have made wires useless.
<Phiner> I truely wish I had a better mental intellect, but I'm still happy with myself at least. :>
<DuncanC> it boils down to what they can use to squeeze the most money out of people with, for the longest time.  Cheap energy would throw a wrench into the whole system... =\
<Cruithne> tesla alternate current
<DuncanC> phiner: the mind is like a muscle
<loitus> Exactly.. $$$ has ruined humanity..
<loitus> I almost welcome a "start-over" for Earth
<S7L> no, humanity came with the desire to ruin itself.
<Phiner> yes, I know that....I found that out when I had to memorize all 43 presidents in order.....I had a better memory after I did that. ;>
<Zetapal> I sure do...we need it
<S7L> the $$$ was simply a method introduced by people to deal with their problems.
<DuncanC> the problem with money is that it's independent of human value.  it's arbitrary.  it has no real value.  you can be an asshole and a billionaire
<Cruithne> no man has $ is an object but i still say put a price on misquotes head & they r extint
<Cruithne> yippie
<loitus> We restrict ourselves with material possession and with rules.. and stresses that make us such humbled creatures..
<DuncanC> the problem is what we use to indicate value
<Zetapal> reboot the planet I say...reformat and load with a new OS
<DuncanC> it's a moot point now, but if it were measured by a different yardstick, we might find ourselves in a better position, globally speaking
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<DuncanC> zetapal:  PX might do just that...
<loitus> The world right now is Windows.. after Planet X - LINUX!
<mikebbs> paper $ is worthless...it is not backed up by gold. Few know this,and that's the way the bankers want it.
<sirgrim> naw then we'd have to upgrade our planet every day
<DuncanC> anyway... laptop battery running low...  time to move inside..  ttyl all
<loitus> CYA
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<Zetapal> Windows 4th density
<Phiner> lol
<Phiner> ;>
<loitus> This planet need a service pack NOW
<CyberVViz> hehe, most servers are running linux or unix
<loitus> Too many bugs
<Zetapal> bug fix
<Cruithne> the promis software has artifical intelligence
<loitus> We keep going to Matrix-esque shit.. funny.
<Zetapal> security patch
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<Zetapal> decompressing Mothman Prophecies now...anyone here seen it? good?
<loitus> I wonder if the Zetas use a Windows-like application
<Cruithne> now that it's removed from computers they have to hmanually do things, so i suspect that's Y they start new homeland secuirty requiring many jobs
<loitus> Zeta: Great flick.. surprisingly
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<Zetapal> cool thanks
<loitus> Very...sixth sensish in tone..
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<loitus> I can't wait for Signs.. looks hot.
<Zetapal> brb
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<Cruithne> cayce said southern canada & eastern canada would fare will with pole shift
<Nomis> Will Nancy visit us or not?????
<loitus> India's fucked... too bad ;)
<loitus> Nomis: If you build it she will come..
<Phiner> Cruithne. I'm planning on going to the midwest or cananda if this all happens
<Cruithne> do u have land there
<loitus> I'm goin' to Disney World...
<Phiner> I'm going to Sea World!!! ;>
<Phiner> lol
<loitus> heh
<CyberVViz> poseidon, the Golden city
<Phiner> and no, Cruithne, I don't have land there.
<Cruithne> don't think digging or building on others land will go well
<Cruithne> they have shot guns
<Cruithne> sportsman area
<Phiner> that may be true....
<loitus> New Mexico seems safe...
<g-man> movin, runnin, hidin i don t see solutions
<Cruithne> how so?
<loitus> Flat.. away from water...
<Cruithne> according to cayc