Session Start: Sun Sep 01 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #ZetaTalk
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[08:47] <Buente> hey obany :)
[08:47] <obany> hi ...
[08:47] <obany> watchint TV, yorin new serie
[08:47] <obany> watching
[08:47] <Buente> wich serie
[08:48] <obany> mutant X
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[08:55] <BostPunk> STOP THE BUNK!  YOU'RE BRAIN-WASHED!  THERE IS NO SCIENCE HERE!
[08:55] <obany> so any reason that you joined here ... other then just to piss me off
[08:56] <BostPunk> Seek reason.
[08:56] <BostPunk> Seek the rational, not the irrational.
[08:56] <obany> !kickban bostpunk mmm bye #astronomy
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[08:56] <obany> geez
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[09:12] <Buente> oh en obany
[09:12] <Buente> geen rare dingen doen als er niks gebeurt op mei 2003
[09:34] <obany> i am not going to kill myself or so ... i am not a member of a suicide cult
[09:37] <Buente> no but ur so convinced
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[09:37] <Buente> how old are you?
[09:42] <obany> 31, buente
[10:04] <Buente> hmm that nancy also has contact with aliens...
[10:06] <obany> i believe so buente
[10:09] <Buente> wich aliens? where are they from? why are they contacting nancy? how do they contact?
[10:10] <obany> well i could say check www.zetatalk.com there is most of the info in worlds, visitations, transformation
[10:12] <Buente> but please listen
[10:12] <Buente> if there are aliens
[10:12] <Buente> (i do think there are, the're to many worlds so their have to be some good for life)
[10:12] <Buente> why are the cat people or green or big heads big eyes etc
[10:13] <Buente> why not 1 cel animals, bacteries etc
[10:13] <Buente> always that green man crap
[10:13] <Buente> try to come up with something original
[10:14] <Buente> you also had a alien encounter?
[10:14] <obany> and why should i answer that ... and why whould it be 1 cel animals etc... because science says so ?
[10:14] <Buente> no it was an example
[10:15] <Buente> i got fantasy too
[10:15] <Buente> i play dnd etc, but dont come up with seeing monsters
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[10:17] <Buente> science has creativity on itself, but doesnt make ppl crazy or convince till they really begin to see encounters
[10:17] <obany> buente: well a lot of people have seen ufos, and there are people that had encountrs with aliens etc so
[10:17] <Buente> and btw i'm not a scientist i'm just on highschool (and dont come up with oh you just learned some physics on school blabla)
[10:18] <Buente> but obany
[10:18] <obany> buente okay okay
[10:18] <obany> :)
[10:18] <Buente> you believe the grain circels are no hoax?
[10:19] <Buente> things like roswell incident etc make people believe things that are just too much for some
[10:19] <obany> some of them are fake yes, but not all of them
[10:20] <Buente> hmm
[10:20] <obany> and i take roswell serious too
[10:20] <Buente> how you know not all of them
[10:20] <Buente> hmz
[10:20] <lulino> hello, what do u think about planet x
[10:20] <Buente> argh :)
[10:20] <Buente> talked about that to many
[10:20] <obany> i take it serious lulinio... but buente .. well he doesn't
[10:20] <obany> that
[10:20] <Buente> i first really heard about it today and start to read some stuff
[10:20] <Buente> i'm not convinced
[10:21] <Buente> not only not convinced
[10:21] <Buente> i also dont want to take more deeply look
[10:21] <Buente> to many sf links
[10:21] <lulino> i hope that not true but we have to investigate or not
[10:21] <Buente> lulino
[10:22] <Buente> we dont have to investigate EVERYTHING
[10:22] <obany> let luline decide for him/herlsef ... and as i said on that astronomy channel aos.. in about 2 weeks new coordinates will be given
[10:22] <Buente> but obany really is convinced, he isnt open if its true or not, it just is
[10:23] <Buente> but the roswell incident was proven to be wrong aint it?
[10:24] <Buente> yes it was i saw a documentary about the guys who made it up
[10:24] <obany> Buente: and you believe what they tell you about that
[10:24] <lulino> the only problem we have is the planet x will be here next may 2003
[10:24] <Buente> obany they said it themselves!
[10:24] <Buente> there will no planet x
[10:25] <Buente> maybe there is but not as described on the zetatalk sites
[10:25] <obany> if you are only here to say that to the people who join here .. then go back to the channel you came from and don't bother us or why don't you check for yourself in a few weeks time huh
[10:25] <obany> buente
[10:25] <lulino> let me know why no planet have you any other sites to look for
[10:25] <obany> either that or leave
[10:26] <Buente> obany
[10:26] <Buente> i came in here with the same reason you came in astronomy
[10:27] <Buente> convince and dont get a ban for just discuss things
[10:27] <lulino> any other comment from the full audience
[10:28] <obany> buente: http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm  http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use08312.htm
[10:29] <lulino> vamp; vehemt; uku ; sapphire; and other have u any consideration about planet x
[10:30] <obany> sapph doesn't believe it at all... so asking him about Planet X won't work
[10:30] <Buente> obany thats what i mean
[10:30] <Buente> why not also listen to people dont believe in planet x
[10:31] <Buente> you learn much more with listening then just saying ur right
[10:31] <lulino> what is the meaning to believe and not believe if the proof we are true or not
[10:31] <lulino> i think is not an opinion
[10:32] <obany> buente: well hearing the zetatalk, Nancy bashing all of the time is anyoing to the bone
[10:32] <lulino> are we sure about the info we have or not
[10:32] <obany> if it was like for 10 minuts or so but every day omg
[10:32] <lulino> believe or not believe is only an opinion
[10:33] <Buente> obany i got your point
[10:33] <lulino> we need facts
[10:33] <Buente> INDEED!
[10:33] <lulino> we have fact for and against
[10:34] <Buente> also true
[10:34] <Buente> but!
[10:34] <obany> as i said before the 15th new coordinates will be given out
[10:34] <Buente> we dont have facts about that orbit your describing the whole time
[10:35] <Buente> it's an illogical orbit with illogical gravitation laws when it comes near the earth
[10:36] <lulino> ok logical but is it possible to see th planet using these coordinates
[10:36] <obany> that's what you say ... and how do you know for sure it's illegocial, do you know all the laws of the universe?
[10:36] <Buente> hehe
[10:36] <Buente> well look at its orbit
[10:36] <Buente> and use ur feeling
[10:37] <Buente> (feeling was the most important thing right)
[10:37] <Buente> you felt like it exist
[10:37] <lulino> i think we dont have to feel the planet or not we have to see it if it is possible
[10:37] <obany> i use my feeling so
[10:38] <lulino> if we discuss about feelling we go far away
[10:38] <Buente> i agree
[10:38] <lulino> we have to stay ground
[10:39] <lulino> the question is now is it possible to see the planet or not
[10:39] <Buente> ok but you guys are convinced, so what is the disaster plan
[10:40] <Buente> if it strikes at may 2003 and the size of jupiter, well then we can view it
[10:40] <Buente> what is its speed anyway?
[10:40] <obany> it's 4 times the sieze of the earth ... and it won't hit the earth
[10:40] <obany> size
[10:41] <Buente> it takes us out of orbit and stop our rotation right?
[10:41] <lulino> as far as i know in gen 2003 we will see it during the day near the sun
[10:42] <Buente> near the sun?
[10:42] <Buente> i thought it was between mars and jupiter
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[10:43] <lulino> in the sense we will see a red planet in the sky
[10:43] <Buente> would be cool
[10:43] <obany> just check some of this posting buente http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use08312.htm has some info
[10:43] <Buente> i did
[10:44] <Buente> 818,342 mph
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[10:46] <lulino> i'm totaly afraid of the planet apparence and im trying to find info agaist nut also i dont want to be stupid and not consider
[10:46] <lulino> all the possibilities
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[10:47] <lulino> i have heard about the pole shift this is realy a big problem
[10:47] <lulino> have u more info on it
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[10:47] <obany> hi captain
[10:48] <captain_nibiru> HI!!
[10:48] <obany> lulino: did you checked the troubled times yet, lulino
[10:49] <lulino> yes i have read some material but im also interested in other (your) opinion
[10:49] <Buente> yes its a big problem
[10:49] <Buente> what ya gonna do bout it?
[10:50] <obany> there are places to go to, one can prepare for it ... the planet can't be stopped
[10:50] <obany> i for one i am not going to stay in the Netherlands
[10:50] <Buente> what would happen if the earth stood still for a couple of hours?
[10:51] <Buente> well?
[10:51] <lulino> now i have to leave my email is p.mangialard@tiscali.it
[10:51] <obany> the tidal waves etc... long night one part of the earth, long day on another  etc
[10:51] <lulino> bye ciao
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[10:52] <captain_nibiru> WHATS GOING TODAY??
[10:52] <captain_nibiru> OR TOPIC??
[10:52] <obany> just some chatter etc nothing more no session today
[10:52] <Buente> you believe in planet x?
[10:52] <Buente> captain
[10:52] <captain_nibiru> OOO IC
[10:53] <captain_nibiru>  I MISSED IT, DARN
[10:53] <Buente> ur caps is hanging
[10:53] <captain_nibiru> YES, I A BIG BELIVER
[10:53] <captain_nibiru> OOO
[10:53] <captain_nibiru> sry
[10:53] <Buente>                                                                   
[10:53] <Buente>                                                                   
[10:53] <Buente>                                                                   
[10:53] <Buente>                                                                   
[10:53] <Buente>                                                                   
[10:53] <agentPX> wow
[10:53] <captain_nibiru> im a big beleiver
[10:54] <obany> buente: that's anoying ...
[10:54] <Buente> a big believer?
[10:54] <Buente> tell me
[10:54] <captain_nibiru> yes, i have a web site
[10:54] <Buente> url
[10:54] <captain_nibiru>  and a chat room also
[10:54] <agentPX> whats the rl
[10:54] <agentPX> url
[10:54] <agentPX> capt'n
[10:54] <captain_nibiru>  and a yahoo group
[10:54] <Buente> isnt the name niburu?
[10:54] <agentPX> planetniburu.tv?
[10:55] <captain_nibiru> ok,  http://www.geocities.com/dewerly/dewslinks.html
[10:55] <obany> cap: you where ther yesterday right during the session, there is no session today
[10:55] <Buente> argh irritating site
[10:55] <captain_nibiru> oooisee
[10:55] <captain_nibiru> thats allright
[10:55] <captain_nibiru>  i like to chat also
[10:56] <Buente> i read the beginning of the session
[10:56] <agentPX> JULY 2002: DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE ENTERS UNDERGROUND BUNKERS     -->      ???????????
[10:56] <Buente> i saw also talking about blair witch etc
[10:56] <captain_nibiru> yes, good one huh??
[10:56] <agentPX> hmmm
[10:56] <obany> that are just some well rethorical statements of Hazlewood not exaclty true
[10:57] <captain_nibiru> yes, i know
[10:57] <captain_nibiru> but all information to this is good
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[10:57] <captain_nibiru> i need every sourse to help me research this
[10:58] <Buente> i hate false info on scientific sites
[10:59] <captain_nibiru> ya!! but they all seem to have good stuff also
[10:59] <captain_nibiru> allong with the bad
[11:00] <Buente> who is the "inventer" of planet x, who came up with it would go around earth
[11:00] <Buente> i want to see the math
[11:00] <captain_nibiru> hum.......
[11:00] <captain_nibiru>  now thats a astro-phisis question
[11:00] <Buente> yes..
[11:00] <Buente> its all astro physic
[11:01] <Buente> so i want to see the math
[11:01] <captain_nibiru> too much for me!!
[11:01] <Buente> how are you convinced theN?
[11:01] <captain_nibiru>  i rellly wish i could do that!!
[11:01] <captain_nibiru>  but then i would know the truth then??
[11:01] <Buente> links of informatic x planet sites then?
[11:01] <Buente> not the sf crap
[11:02] <captain_nibiru> yes, i have to relie on nancy, or the astrometers
[11:02] <Buente> BUT SOMEONE HAS TO SAY ONE DAY LOOK ITS GOING IN OUR ORBIT BETWEEN MARS AND JUPITER
[11:03] <Buente> he must have done some physics before telling those things
[11:03] <captain_nibiru> when we see in the sky during the day , it will be too late , hummmmmm
[11:04] <captain_nibiru> so if i prepare now
[11:04] <captain_nibiru>  and nothing happens
[11:04] <captain_nibiru>  then im not out much
[11:04] <Buente> prepare?
[11:04] <Buente> like brace for impact
[11:05] <Buente> captain ur also dutch?
[11:05] <obany> no no ... no impact different .. buente: check some of the info on www.zetatalk/thub00.htm  food, health etc
[11:05] <Buente> doesnt exist
[11:06] <Buente> hmm i want to know what happens physically to the earth and lives on it if the planet stood still
[11:07] <Buente> obany what kind of work you do?
[11:07] <obany> well i am not a college profesor... just well vacuumcleaning part of a restaurant
[11:08] <Buente> why would i think that?
[11:08] <Buente> ur almost anti science :)
[11:09] <obany> i am not totaly anti science buente
[11:10] <agentPX> buente you are a fool
[11:10] <Buente> why that
[11:10] <obany> i say that not everything we think we know is right
[11:10] <agentPX> doesnt mean the man is vacuumcleaning he has no culture
[11:10] <Buente> !! i didnt say that!
[11:11] <agentPX> stop doing prejudice
[11:11] <Buente> omg no
[11:11] <Buente> but he said i am not a college profesor
[11:11] <Buente> i didnt reply on the vacuumcleaning part
[11:11] <agentPX> ok sorry then
[11:12] <captain_nibiru> hum......
[11:12] <agentPX> i just thought you were atacking is credibility because of his work..
[11:12] <Buente> maybe i'm not on my top sweet hour today, but i never think people are foolish or shatever
[11:13] <agentPX> oK :)
[11:15] <captain_nibiru> so , you think were in trouble?? burente
[11:15] <Buente> no
[11:15] <captain_nibiru> o my
[11:15] <captain_nibiru> well
[11:15] <Buente> i know for 98% sure :)
[11:15] <Buente> maybe 99
[11:16] <captain_nibiru> then what is up with our solar ststem??
[11:16] <Buente> it rotates and stuff
[11:16] <Buente> what would their be?
[11:16] <captain_nibiru> there is something happening to the sun also??
[11:16] <Buente> yes in 3 billion years
[11:17] <Buente> +-
[11:17] <captain_nibiru> there is abnormal things happening?? dont you know??
[11:17] <Buente> yes
[11:17] <Buente> there are
[11:19] <Buente> singularity for example
[11:19] <Buente> infinities
[11:19] <Buente> chaos
[11:19] <Buente> (btw i dont think chaos exist)
[11:19] <agentPX> singularity is not anormal
[11:20] <Buente> its abnormal yss
[11:20] <agentPX> it exist in each black and white hole
[11:20] <Buente> white holes dont exist i think
[11:20] <agentPX> theorically yes
[11:20] <Buente> but
[11:20] <agentPX> just havent been seen
[11:20] <Buente> in 10-30 sec after big bang maybe tes
[11:20] <Buente> yes
[11:20] <Buente> 10^-30
[11:21] <agentPX> come in #troubled_times
[11:21] <agentPX> they are more people there
[11:21] <Buente> k
[11:21] <Buente> you also believe in einstein rosen bridges?
[11:22] <agentPX> i havent read about rosen bridges since a long time but i think Hawking has confirm the theory
[11:22] <Buente> if the exist there must be white holes
[11:24] <Buente> just curious, the reason why you looking deep in the rosswell and planet x stuff
[11:24] <Buente> is it excitement?
[11:24] <Buente> like i get adrenaline kicks from black holes? :)
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[11:26] <agentPX> i dont really look deep in the rosswell stuff...
[11:26] <agentPX> i dont think its true
[11:26] <agentPX> about PX, i believe in it, it explain lots of things
[11:26] <Buente> obany does
[11:26] <Buente> like what does it explain?
[11:27] <Buente> life on earth?
[11:27] <agentPX> our solar system irregularities
[11:27] <agentPX> the weather
[11:27] <agentPX> ice age period we had
[11:27] <agentPX> plutos getting warmer, while its going away from the sun
[11:27] <agentPX> etc
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[11:28] <Buente> but what connection has pluto with px
[11:29] <agentPX> well
[11:29] <agentPX> since pX is coming closer
[11:29] <agentPX> its affecting the others planets
[11:29] <Buente> how can that be?
[11:30] <Buente> it doesnt give warmth or big space cuves or whatever you can think of
[11:34] <vamp> all planet x video
[11:34] <vamp> contributors
[11:34] <vamp> they loook all jewish
[11:35] <Buente> :P
[11:35] <Buente> url?
[11:36] <agentPX> www.planetxvideo.com
[11:37] <Buente> omg Lloyd Pye is on it to
[11:37] <Buente> i read about his books
[11:39] <agentPX> he has a website
[11:39] <agentPX> http://www.lloydpye.com/
[11:40] <Buente> i dont like his ideas to much
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Session Start: Sun Sep 01 23:10:32 2002
Session Ident: #ZetaTalk
[23:10] * Now talking in #ZetaTalk
[23:10] * Topic is 'next irc session will be announced on : http://www.zetatalk.com/index/z01.htm'
[23:10] * Set by obany on Sat Aug 31 17:22:05
[23:10] -grimbot- Sapphire, Welcome to #ZetaTalk! Please use http://www.zetatalk.com/index/z01.htm for more information on the chat, or ‰http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zetamail.htm for contact information for questions and concerns. Thanks for Chatting!
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Session Close: Mon Sep 02 00:00:00 2002