Session Start: Wed Feb 05 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #EarthChanges
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[00:06] <Himitsu> hi all!
[00:06] <tied2> «§» Hello Himitsu «§»
[00:06] <Himitsu> hi!
[00:08] <tied2> Himitsu you bad boy
[00:08] <Himitsu> lol
[00:11] <tied2> he he
[00:15] <Himitsu> you could stay there tied2
[00:15] <tied2> I wonder who could have a Japanese name type like a American and have a Australian connection?
[00:16] <Himitsu> not me
[00:16] <Himitsu> (~Himitsu@30.gate2.yokosuka.attmil.ne.jp) <--------------- not from Oz
[00:17] <Himitsu> who were you talking about?
[00:17] <tied2> I'm betting YOU
[00:18] <Himitsu> not a connection from Oz for me
[00:18] <tied2> proxy off of freax
[00:18] <Himitsu> lol
[00:18] <Himitsu> nope
[00:18] <Himitsu> I don't know how to proxy
[00:18] <tied2> lmao
[00:19] <Himitsu> seriously
[00:19] <tied2> un-huh
[00:19] <Himitsu> I am still not sure exactly what you are getting at...
[00:20] <tied2> Tocka
[00:20] <Himitsu> what is Tocka?
[00:21] <Himitsu> --- [Tocka] (webchat@210.11.36.78) : JAVA IRC Client
[00:21] <Himitsu> --- [Tocka] Naaldwijk.NL.EU.FunNet.Org :Kabelfoon IRC Server
[00:21] <Himitsu> --- [Tocka] idle 00:05:49, signon: Wed Feb  5 16:50:40
[00:21] <Himitsu> --- [Tocka] End of WHOIS list.
[00:21] <Himitsu> isn't me
[00:23] <Himitsu> is that why you said "you bad boy"?
[00:24] <tied2> yes
[00:24] <tied2> thats a spoofed ip
[00:24] <Himitsu> well, it isn't me
[00:24] <Himitsu> not sure why I would bother with it
[00:24] <tied2> I don't care
[00:24] <Himitsu> me either
[00:24] <tied2> just for fun?
[00:25] <Himitsu> nope
[00:25] <Himitsu> can't
[00:25] <Himitsu> don't know how, and even if I did, it wouldn't really gain me anything
[00:25] <tied2> <Tocka> tired2 its my childhood nickname after toscaninny the musion
[00:25] <tied2> wtf?
[00:25] <Himitsu> no idea
[00:26] <Himitsu> but toscaninny isn't Japanese
[00:26] <Himitsu> and I have no idea what a musion is
[00:26] <tied2> it's a Japanese company
[00:26] <tied2> lol me either
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[00:27] <Himitsu> never heard of it, and I have lived here for 9 years
[00:27] <tied2> -- Looking up IP number for Tocka..
[00:27] <tied2>  Host 78.36.11.210.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[00:27] <tied2> a conflict
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[00:30] <Himitsu> conflict?
[00:31] <tied2> lol your query said jurians server and a pvt says San Jose lol
[00:33] <Himitsu> I did a /whois tocka
[00:33] <tied2> yeah
[00:33] <Himitsu> --- [Tocka] (webchat@210.11.36.78) : JAVA IRC Client
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[00:33] <Himitsu> not surew why it would be different
[00:34] <tied2> me either
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[00:41] <tied2> «§» Good Nite!  «§»
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[02:28] <Kobol> Scooby  do you know the name of the other room    troubledtimes?
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[02:29] <[3j]> dave open up, i got the stuff!
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[02:30] <[3j]> Kobol, it's #Troubled_Times
[02:30] <Kobol> cheers thanx
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[10:47] <Hillel> hi
[10:53] <RNTHOMAS> Howdy
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[12:42] <Dsarith> Hi Super0
[12:42] <Dsarith> Dont take offense on PS
[12:42] <Dsarith> Very specialized channel
[12:42] <super0> hi
[12:42] <super0> k
[12:43] <super0> just heard about this
[12:43] <super0> am always interested in teotwawki and related stuff
[12:43] <Dsarith> A lot to swallow... yes?
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[12:43] <super0> no not at all
[12:44] <Dsarith> They get alot of hecklers in that channel so they are specialized
[12:44] <Dsarith> Again dont take it personal
[12:44] <super0> specialized in what?
[12:44] <super0> k
[12:44] <Dsarith> Those are hard core believers and are preparing
[12:44] <Dsarith> Some one new must work their way there
[12:44] <Dsarith> No big deal
[12:45] <super0> how are they preparing?
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[12:45] <Dsarith> Basically you have a plan. Some are storing food, know where they are going etc
[12:45] <Dsarith> They all have read zetatalk
[12:45] <super0> so what's exactly gonna be the consequences of the shift?
[12:46] <Dsarith> Well, basically if you take the earth and reverse the poles, you get global changes, tsunamis, earthquakes, etc
[12:46] <super0> great
[12:46] <super0> where did they get this from?
[12:47] <super0> the information?
[12:47] <Dsarith> zetatalk
[12:47] <super0> the site?
[12:47] <super0> yeah but i mean where did they get it from?
[12:47] <super0> the zetas themselves?
[12:47] <Dsarith> Most in PS believe that Zetians are real... some believe that poleshift is going to happen but uncertain how they know this
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[12:47] <super0> right i see
[12:48] <super0> i mean i have known for a while something big is coming this spring
[12:48] <super0> i reckoned march
[12:48] <super0> didn't think it could be extra-planetary in nature though
[12:48] <Dsarith> Tell me about 2012
[12:48] <super0> i was reckoning that someone would drop a bomb somewhere
[12:48] <Dsarith> you said you were prepared for that and found out that its 2003
[12:48] <super0> would have a similar effect, panic-wise
[12:49] <Dsarith> Lets start at a plan
[12:49] <Dsarith> What plans have you made or have you thought of one
[12:49] <Dsarith> Where in the world are you
[12:49] <super0> the end of this world is widely predicted as occurring on the winter solstice of 2012
[12:49] <Dsarith> I am from Dallas Tx
[12:49] <Dsarith> True Super I read that too
[12:49] <super0> but 2003 is a new one on me
[12:49] <super0> i don't think this will be IT, but it will be something big
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[12:50] <super0> something that will really get the thing spiralling
[12:50] <super0> plan for what?
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[12:50] <super0> you wanna survive the end of this world?
[12:50] <Dsarith> That is the second question
[12:50] <super0> there are some choices. EITHER, get ready to be taken off by the spaceship
[12:50] <Dsarith> First is there going to be PS, second do you want to live in the aftertime
[12:50] <humvee> super0 shift is not the end
[12:50] <super0> this will be either chance or by insightful direction
[12:51] <super0> no i see that- but a forerunner
[12:51] <Dsarith> Well, there are some projected safer areas
[12:51] <Dsarith> Then plans on food etc
[12:51] <super0> the shift sounds like the missing link- i could feel something around the corner, but did not know about this
[12:51] <super0> the other option is to ensure you are of a sufficiently-evolved nature to enter through a portal that will open up allowing you to the next level
[12:52] <super0> OR you can build a bunker and stay in it for twenty years
[12:52] <super0> and even then, you won't live long when you get out
[12:52] <Dsarith> True
[12:52] <humvee> super more ppl will die next 2 year 4 lack of simple planning
[12:52] <super0> BUT the advantages are: you get to wander through the ruins of a culture you always knew was doomed
[12:52] <super0> and you get to start off the next bit
[12:53] <super0> is there a precise date for the shift?
[12:53] <humvee> settle down talk 2 Dsarith and read material on www.zetatalk.com/ - good luck
[12:53] <super0> bunker would need own air-supply filtration system
[12:53] <humvee> bye
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[12:53] <super0> ty
[12:53] <super0> :)
[12:54] <Dsarith> You are correct Super
[12:54] <super0> :)
[12:54] <Dsarith> And have distillation process for water
[12:55] <super0> i figure you can rig up a dynamo system for power- the amount you expend on your exercise bike will be the amount oyu need to stay in shape and power your bunker
[12:55] <super0> also, try and grow plants if you can- hydroponics
[12:55] <Dsarith> Believe it or not some have thought about that too
[12:55] <Dsarith> That as well
[12:55] <super0> food is a big problem
[12:55] <Dsarith> All good ideas
[12:56] <Dsarith> Food is the big problem
[12:56] <super0> very little food will survive longer than ten years
[12:56] <super0> and you need to stay in the bunker at least twice that
[12:56] <Dsarith> I am pretty sure fruit cake will... hehe
[12:56] <super0> :)
[12:56] <super0> i mean probably there's ways of vacuum-packing it and all
[12:56] <Dsarith> Regardless if you accept ps. Its good to have a plan for national disasters
[12:56] <super0> you'd need a two-way radio
[12:57] <super0> of course
[12:57] <Dsarith> You should have a place and stored food
[12:57] <super0> but really you should trust to luck and see what the universe has in store for you
[12:57] <super0> you might waste a lot of energy between now and then trying to figure out the best spot to be in and get it utterly wrong
[12:57] <Dsarith> Many believe that the PS idea is outrageous, but I try to explain to them that they have nothing to lose by planning
[12:57] <super0> perhaps better to follow your heart and play whatever part in it you are due to play
[12:58] <Dsarith> That is a valid story too
[12:58] <Dsarith> Theory
[12:58] <super0> may 2003?
[12:58] <super0> not march?
[12:58] <Dsarith> By March 30 you should see it in the daylight sky
[12:58] <Dsarith> If you cant then this PS is in quesiton
[12:58] <super0> sounds amazing
[12:58] <super0> so where's good to be?
[12:58] <Dsarith> You will have 7 weeks to make your plans happen
[12:59] <Dsarith> For some that is plenty of time
[12:59] <super0> for me it is
[12:59] <super0> 7 minutes is plenty of time
[12:59] <super0> i am always packed
[12:59] <Dsarith> There is a map on Zetatalk that tells of different places that are safer
[12:59] <super0> but then, i could do with getting more organised
[12:59] <Dsarith> Not by the ocean
[12:59] <super0> indeed
[13:00] <Dsarith> I am not sure what all the issues are to tell you the truth. Why so many are totally against it.
[13:00] <super0> it is useful to be ready to move
[13:00] <super0> it could be good to see oneself as a kind of mobile operation, ready for immediate survival under any circumstances
[13:00] <Dsarith> I think so, especially with all the issues with war pending and all
[13:01] <Dsarith> IF this is WW3 then better to have a safe place or let the universe decide your fate
[13:01] <Dsarith> Which for some that is good thing
[13:01] <super0> i don't think this is ww3 just yet
[13:01] <Dsarith> No, but I can see where it can be in a hurry
[13:01] <Dsarith> Where are you from Super
[13:02] <super0> but i do think someone somewhere is gonna let off a nuclear bomb sometime soon, cause there hasn't been one for half a century and people are getting edgy and a lot of people have forgotten and people will want to remind everyone of just what it can do
[13:02] <super0> sirius
[13:02] <super0> so i've seen all this before
[13:02] <super0> :)
[13:02] <Dsarith> True, I fully agree with you
[13:03] <super0> yeah?
[13:03] <Hillel> siriusly, where are you from super :)
[13:03] <super0> wow
[13:03] <super0> uk
[13:03] <super0> noone i've said it to agrees
[13:03] <super0> i love millenarianism
[13:03] <super0> it's kind of exciting in a way
[13:04] <Dsarith> One sec on phone... Hillel help him for awhile
[13:04] <Dsarith> He is new and have some questions
[13:04] <Hillel> ok, questions?
[13:05] <Hillel> but the truth is that it became obvoius to me that this whole ZT thing is a lie
[13:05] <super0> a lie?
[13:05] <Hillel> but it is better if you judge it yourself
[13:06] <Hillel> sorry for my bad english
[13:06] <super0> i agree
[13:06] <super0> your english is fine
[13:06] <Hillel> yes, i found a website, which is worth to read...
[13:07] <Hillel> http://www.skepticalmind.com/zetatalk.html
[13:07] <Dsarith> Still on phone... however, look at this way. No matter what you think March 30 will tell all
[13:08] <Dsarith> Doesnt hurt to know about it and have a plan
[13:08] <super0> indeed
[13:08] <super0> ty for your assistance
[13:08] <super0> nice meeting you
[13:08] <super0> now i have to split
[13:08] <Dsarith> Not a problem any time
[13:08] <super0> peace
[13:08] <Dsarith> peace
[13:08] <super0> :)
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[13:09] <Hillel> what is sad that someone makes a lot of money out of this lie
[13:10] <Dsarith> How do you know its a lie right now
[13:10] <Dsarith> Your free to dicuss openly here
[13:10] <Dsarith> March 30 will speak to that yes
[13:11] <Dsarith> Or what do you feel convinces you now its all a lie
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[13:11] <reticuli> hello
[13:11] <Hillel> well i observed the behaviour of ppl here on irc, read the website, the different opinions and it is simply obvious
[13:11] <Hillel> hello
[13:11] <reticuli> whats obvious?
[13:12] <Dsarith> What makes it so obvious
[13:12] <Hillel> that zt doesnt tell zhe truth
[13:12] <reticuli> can you explain further, ie provide some examples etc
[13:13] <Hillel> first off, noone sees px except zt
[13:13] <reticuli> zetatlk sees px?
[13:13] <reticuli> how can a verb see?
[13:13] <Hillel> ya know the pictures posted
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[13:15] <Dsarith> Hi Nasisoar
[13:15] <Dsarith> I am listening Hillel
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[13:15] <reticuli> i guess i dont follow? do you mean the zetas are the only ones who see px?
[13:15] <Dsarith> I have seen the pictures
[13:15] <Hillel> second here on #poleshiftdiscussion i saw today that a certain 'propaganda' began: "if this px doesnt come, the better, but it was better to prepare even px would not com"
[13:16] <Dsarith> I actually accept that thought
[13:16] <reticuli> is that a lie?
[13:16] <Dsarith> There is nothing wrong with having a plan
[13:16] <Hillel> so QV and others knows for certain their truth or not?
[13:16] <Dsarith> They believe in what they believe and have made preparation
[13:17] <Dsarith> Some have made plans others have gone all out
[13:17] <Hillel> earlier they were sure, now they are not 1000 certain, do you see whats going on?
[13:17] <humvee> Hillet - we have to each decide for our selves
[13:17] <Hillel> i dont want to decide for you
[13:17] <Dsarith> Oh no, not at all. It wasnt uncertainty they were discussing. They were discussing having an open mind ... more theoretical
[13:18] <Dsarith> Everyone has to decide for themselves. Again I dont understand why there is such a problem with others having a belief
[13:18] <humvee> ill get theoretical when in my safe location
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[13:18] <Dsarith> Planning alwasy good
[13:18] <Hillel> just keep your eyes open, youll see that this tone will get louder and louder
[13:18] <Dsarith> Hi Lomvsky
[13:19] <reticuli> what tone?
[13:19] <lomovsky> Hi all
[13:19] <Hillel> tone of uncertainty
[13:19] <Dsarith> It cant get too much louder cuz time is getting shorter and shorter
[13:19] <Hillel> hello
[13:19] <Dsarith> Truth will be here one way or another
[13:19] <Hillel> and nothing will happen...
[13:19] <Dsarith> Hillel: What if you get to March and you see the red cross
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[13:19] <reticuli> lol
[13:20] <Hillel> then i will say sorry :)
[13:20] <Dsarith> Point is that you are aware of it and will know of it
[13:20] <cmell> hello lomov
[13:20] <raincity> Hillel: are you a debunker or still undecided?
[13:20] <Dsarith> If it happens you are in much better position than a lot of people
[13:20] <Hillel> now a debunker
[13:20] <lomovsky> hi cmell..wow,that other room sure is 'Strict'..i can't even observe?
[13:20] <Dsarith> If nothing happens then you have lost nothing
[13:21] <raincity> Paid debunker or just volunteer?
[13:21] <cmell> no you have to be a believer
[13:21] <reticuli> well i think that the real issue is that this is not something that you have to believe or disbelieve, I dont think anyway
[13:21] <cmell> :)
[13:21] <Hillel> but someone made a lot of money on it hehe :(
[13:21] <Dsarith> Correct lomosky... very selected channel... dont take it personal
[13:21] <reticuli> who?
[13:21] <reticuli> nancy?
[13:21] <Hillel> yes
[13:21] <reticuli> how much?
[13:21] <lomovsky> it's ok...i just realise the 'seriousness' of it :)
[13:21] <Hillel> by selling books
[13:21] <reticuli> how much?
[13:21] <raincity> Do you have evidence of the money?
[13:21] <humvee> lomo you are welcome to come back 2 #psd when you are seriously preparing 4 the shift
[13:22] <Dsarith> And you are always welcomed in this channel :-)
[13:22] <lomovsky> ok...what kind of preparations?
[13:22] <Hillel> no but it doesnt mean that i am not right
[13:22] <reticuli> I've heard this $$$ thing mentioned as a motive but no one has proivided even an iota of proof for it
[13:22] <reticuli> hillel, you are making unsubstantiated allegations
[13:22] <cmell> I am not so serious as QV, but I do understand her position
[13:22] <Hillel> reticuli: hey, books and videos are sold...
[13:23] <Dsarith> Hillel: If I believe and I went out and changed my life, spent money and it didnt come, I wouldnt blame anyone but myself. Its my decision to do it.
[13:23] <Dsarith> If I bought a book and it didnt come, it would be my issue only
[13:23] <humvee> when u have read the info on www.zetatalk.com / troubled times and have decided that you want to talk re: what you think about planning and storing food = safe locations etc
[13:23] <lomovsky> everyone will be where they need to be - trust me - so trust your own SELF,that's the best
[13:23] <Hillel> Dsarith: its like smoking cigarette...
[13:24] <Dsarith> Im listening
[13:24] <raincity> We are addicted to ZetaTalk?
[13:24] <cmell> who rain  ?
[13:24] <raincity> [13:23] <Hillel> Dsarith: its like smoking cigarette...
[13:24] <humvee> u can understand #earthchanges here is a good forum for othertalk re px
[13:25] <reticuli> I have heard the exact figures on how many books have been sold and its relatively paltry, especially when you consider the small royalty she likely receives.  The biggest weakness in your claim hillel is that all the info is available for free on the website, And if Namcy was in it for the money why not do like a 1-900 number and charge $5.99 a minute for zeta readings
[13:25] <Hillel> its your decision, to smoke or not, but "it seriously harms your health" or sg, but the big corporations are still responsible
[13:25] <Hillel> so is zt
[13:25] <reticuli> what?
[13:25] <Dsarith> I dont think so. If you make a decision to smoke its your decision
[13:26] <Dsarith> Its just the way I see taking responsibility for yurselff
[13:26] <Hillel> Dsarith: but you can be influenced by marketing techniques, etc...
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[13:26] <reticuli> please address my question hillel I have heard the exact figures on how many books have been sold and its relatively paltry, especially when you consider the small royalty she likely receives.  The biggest weakness in your claim hillel is that all the info is available for free on the website, And if Namcy was in it for the money why not do like a 1-900 number and charge $5.99 a minute for zeta readings
[13:28] <Dsarith> Hillel: True, but I think people have the ability to decern what they read and make a choice... Yes?
[13:28] <Hillel> i read on #poleshiftdiscussion a debate about copyright. If the story were true then zt wouldnt cling too much to its copyright
[13:28] <humvee> I see hot red mud falling on your head in the very near future (please mail me ur $5.99)
[13:29] <lomovsky> haha
[13:29] <Dsarith> Yes and no. On one hand you are protecting your name and holding to it so not allowing it to be misused.
[13:29] <Dsarith> Its actually a smart thing to do
[13:29] <reticuli> humvee, actually, when nancy used to go on the radio years ago and do zetatalk the majority of the callers asked personal questions
[13:29] <Dsarith> I own a company and all my stuff is protected.
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[13:30] <Dsarith> Well, hello cosmic
[13:30] <reticuli> If it was true nancy would ride to work in a spaceship and make money in her microwave
[13:30] <cosmic> well hello Dsarith, well hello, Dsarith...
[13:30] * cosmic sings
[13:30] <Dsarith> And that was absolutely beautiful
[13:31] <humvee> yes im sorry i missed that i am still trying to find if Mellony loves me? (wife is lol)
[13:31] * Looking up Hillel user info...
[13:31] <Hillel> ok folks i dont want to force my opinion on you, but you will see that you were deceived, and the psychology of this thing is that you wont even accuse zt for its lie
[13:31] <Dsarith> You are not Hillel, but why is so important for you to be right
[13:32] <Dsarith> I have always wondered that
[13:32] <cosmic> there is an article in the latest issue of nexus magazine about planet x
[13:32] <Dsarith> No one is forcing anyone to believe in PX. You do or you dont
[13:32] <reticuli> What are you talking about, your making a lot of assumoptions about what I and the others believe. I'm assuming by your silence hillel that you have no response to my question
[13:32] <Dsarith> NO big deal
[13:32] <cosmic> some dude reckons it's a brown dwarf star
[13:32] <lomovsky> exactly Dsarith
[13:32] <Hillel> thats sad, cos if it not true than nancy deserves a nice place either in a prison or on a psychiatry
[13:32] <reticuli> lol, what for?
[13:33] <reticuli> its a free country, thankfully
[13:33] <Hillel> ok reticuli you dont understand, but i wont explain it further... sorry
[13:33] <cosmic> why should nancy go to prison?
[13:33] <humvee> Hillel - sinced you have asked as per zt px = 1.showing up on coord 2. moving every week along the trace 3. getting bigger 4. earthchanges (quakes n derailments up 900%) not dismissed by most ppl
[13:34] <Hillel> for deceiving ppl, and making money on her lies
[13:34] <reticuli> well, it would help if could engage in a conversation, which means not merely making statements but engaging in conversation.
[13:34] <Dsarith> Unless she has created an atmosphere where she has taken personal responsible for making someones choice, she wont go to prison. ITs what she believes
[13:34] <cosmic> what, like shampoo manufacturers deceive and make money you mean?
[13:35] <reticuli> and in america you can believe what you will, ppl like hillel might like to live in iraq, i say go there if thats what you want
[13:35] <Dsarith> Cosmic: What does it matter what she believes or anyone else
[13:35] <humvee> who is decieving - info is out 4 critical thinking (which very few do)
[13:35] <reticuli> dont blame me hillel for suggesting that you go to iraq though if you dont end up liking it
[13:35] <reticuli> ;)
[13:35] <Dsarith> In fact I believe she even tells you those who are against her beliefs.
[13:36] <Dsarith> Everyone makes up their own mind and let the others have theirs
[13:36] <Dsarith> Its easy and simple
[13:36] <humvee> better bring ur bomb shelter if u pick Iraq as a saf location
[13:36] <cosmic> I don't know Dsarith, what does it matter?
[13:36] * Looking up cosmic user info...
[13:36] <Hillel> reticuli: have you heard of religious arguments? well in the cas of it noone can be convinced, because of the fanatic minds of the arguer. thats why i said i wont argue
[13:36] <Dsarith> Thats my point either way it doesnt matter.
[13:37] <reticuli> well, i was hoping I would hear some good reasons why zetatalk is a lie, but alas, its the same old stuff.... but just becasue px does not arrive does not mean that zt is a lie
[13:37] <Dsarith> You dont believe cosmic, I know you dont yet I enjoy talking to you and that is what matters
[13:37] <reticuli> hillel, I am not a believer in px, so your excuse is void
[13:37] <Hillel> reticuli: as i said noone else sees px except zt
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[13:37] <reticuli> what do you mean zetatalk sees it?
[13:37] <Dsarith> WB RNT
[13:37] <reticuli> please be more clear
[13:38] <rnthomas> Howdy...
[13:38] <cosmic> Dsarith, well naturally. It would be a bit silly for me to come here otherwise
[13:38] <Hillel> reticuli: pls read what humvee wrote
[13:38] <reticuli> do you mean that zetatalk is the only site that has photos?
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[13:38] <Masisoar> =) hi
[13:38] <Dsarith> Hi Masisoar
[13:38] <Hillel> hello
[13:38] <Dsarith> Join in the fun
[13:38] <reticuli> why should I read humvee? I asked you a question, your manner of speaking is vague
[13:38] <cosmic> but what I want to know is, why hasn't it been mentioned on the bbc sky at night programme
[13:39] <humvee> reticuli : what about the imaging of the incoming px dont you see - it will be looming in the pics with these next few weeks is not for those with eyes who can see - da
[13:39] <raincity> cosmic: do you know Brian Gillbanks?
[13:39] <Dsarith> I am not an astronomer  :-(
[13:39] <cosmic> http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/spaceguide/skyatnight/
[13:39] <Hillel> no reticuly it is not me who is vague, but zt, but i wont continue this debate as i have already said
[13:39] <cosmic> raincity, no, i don't
[13:40] <Dsarith> If the government knew this was coming would they tell anyone... Hah
[13:40] <Dsarith> Nah
[13:40] <Dsarith> They wouldnt
[13:40] <Dsarith> They would do everything to keep it from the population
[13:40] <Masisoar> Well is this the right "fun" place to ask questions ;)
[13:41] <humvee> i m not an astronomer but i have gomne to the trouble of reading a book and seriously looking at the results of what several ppl on the viewing team are breaking their neck staying up all nite 2 do (then having to goto work the next day)  be real here
[13:41] <Dsarith> Yes pro or con
[13:41] <Dsarith> Humvee: Was that directed to me?
[13:42] <humvee> Hillel was saying what if it does not show ( da )
[13:42] <Dsarith> Oh, gotcha
[13:42] <Dsarith> What if it doesnt show?
[13:42] <Dsarith> Then life goes on
[13:42] <Dsarith> Nothing lost
[13:42] <Dsarith> Nothing gained
[13:43] <humvee> no one wants 2 look and think critical only come here #EC and b convinced
[13:43] <Dsarith> Personally, I looked at everything and made my decision
[13:43] <humvee> ur doing good Dsarith
[13:43] <Dsarith> Both Pro and Con
[13:43] <Hillel> Dsarith: but in that case nancy is either liar or mentally sick, do you agree Dsarith?
[13:43] <Dsarith> There is something going on in this world
[13:44] <Dsarith> Ty Humvee
[13:44] <humvee> yes i really appreciate the imaging team and i m looking also
[13:44] <reticuli> hillel, what if nancy is being lied to?
[13:44] <Dsarith> Hillel: You left out one potential thing
[13:44] <Masisoar> Its just a struggle I'm having with myself. Primarily unsure..as to which direction to go to. I have friends in colorado ( dear to me) loved as much or more than family members,  and then I have family here in upper New york . I'm unsure if I should stay here and help them out..with a pretty odd future or could go to colorado..gather with friends and go into wyoming =) possibly
[13:44] <Hillel> reticuli: by whom?
[13:44] <Hillel> Dsaith: namely...
[13:45] <reticuli> thats an interesting question hillel
[13:45] <humvee> reticuli if zetas are not a true scorce then this exercise will tell us much re our new neighbors
[13:45] <Dsarith> Nancy could just believe completely. In which case she is not psycho or a liar
[13:45] <humvee> 4 now i am taking their word (trust but verify-reagen knew much)
[13:45] <Hillel> Dsarith: answer your question
[13:46] <Dsarith> Maur: Colorado is a safer place the NY
[13:46] <reticuli> hey hillel, you cant have it both ways, refusing toi answer then demanding asnwers ;)
[13:46] <reticuli> hehe
[13:46] <lomovsky> I'm in Singapore..and i hv read that it'll be underwater...aww..
[13:47] <reticuli> i wonder if it will be illegal to litter underwater?
[13:47] <lomovsky> haha
[13:47] <humvee> lomo r u moving?
[13:48] <Dsarith> My suggestion Lomo is if you see the planet x in the sky in March... Move :-)
[13:48] <Hillel> reticuli: there are meaningful questions and there are stupid ones. everyone has to decide what to answer to
[13:48] <Dsarith> If not, stay where you are .... lol
[13:48] <Dsarith> Up to you
[13:48] <reticuli> well in that case I wouldnt answer him dsarith
[13:48] <lomovsky> nope. i'd do something and plan..only after I see something in the sky '7 weeks prior'
[13:48] <Dsarith> Then that is a good choice
[13:49] <Dsarith> You will be ahead of most
[13:49] <humvee> good plan but since all the other ppl in the world might be buying up all in the stores by that time
[13:49] <reticuli> ok, its been fun kids, and hillel get back in touch with me when you have something meaniful to say, that is backed up with some reason, and you are able to say it so that its comprehensible
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[13:50] <Masisoar> Now that's what I say to myself and what I have noticed, new york = not safe for a while, and being my parents/family wont believe me..its not like I can just stay here and possible die from a flood or such, I'm really only 15, will also be hard to just drop out of school because of this ( plan on doing this if i DO see it in the sky..)..it will just be difficult to do some things
[13:50] <humvee> i m watching the skies with a small scope to get some lead time
[13:50] <humvee> our safe location we r goint to anyway
[13:50] <lomovsky> well,I'm not sure if other people in Singapore know much about this...or even hv a little bit of belief
[13:51] <humvee> what do you think ppl in singapore will do wen they see it and word of the shift gets out the last few weeks?
[13:51] <lomovsky> yeah..hv thot of that too
[13:52] <lomovsky> if i were to die...i can say that i'm alright with that too.
[13:52] <humvee> i m saying pay close attn 2 get urself a few extra weeks time n good luck 4 u n ur family
[13:53] <Masisoar> So once in...colorado, just might move ontowards wyoming
[13:53] <humvee> y not make it thru to this comming UNBELIEVELY interesting next few years
[13:53] <humvee> just will take a bit of preparations
[13:54] * lomovsky wondering...thinking...
[13:56] <lomovsky> i wonder if ALL the governments(including my country) know about this shift...
[13:57] <humvee> some do know the level of belief (or not) is even higher with a committe read: govt
[13:58] <humvee> our govt looks at px every week with the hubbel scope
[13:59] <humvee> they also image the many thousands of annomolys easily seen looking from that vantage point
[13:59] <lomovsky> also hv been thinking about the recent 'money' given by my government a few times...1200 bucks to each working person,has got to do with this
[14:00] <humvee> even the catholic church has a newly built observatory here in arizona
[14:00] <humvee> oh hadnt herd re 1200$
[14:01] <lomovsky> well,not too sure about that either...or maybe i'm talking crap
[14:01] <humvee> i think most of the warmongering is a deversion
[14:02] <humvee> all r leaders are digging into earth
[14:02] <humvee> not a good plan actually
[14:02] <humvee> a shallow ditch is the way to go
[14:03] <lomovsky> humvee...where are you?
[14:04] <humvee> i m in hawaii but moving 2 Minnesota (north east USA)
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[14:04] <lomovsky> with the family?
[14:04] <lomovsky> since when hv u been aware and 'preparing for this'?
[14:04] <humvee> yes but most r now planning 2 stay here
[14:05] <humvee> 2 1/2 years now but dad fig it out 20years ago from bible
[14:05] <humvee> (wormwood)
[14:05] <lomovsky> oh.. ;) .. ok
[14:05] <lomovsky> i'm not that familiar with the bible. oh,so 20 years ago..he was VERY SURE?
[14:06] <humvee> us either - wife n i r very plain n practicle
[14:06] <humvee> he knew and planned egg boats (small survival chambers of ferro cement)
[14:07] <lomovsky> i say,even if 'IT' didn't happen in may later.....it'll happen soon anyway
[14:08] <lomovsky> wow..ok
[14:08] <humvee> mid may is the earliest as per zt the exact speed is dep on solar sys mecnanics with vary slightly
[14:08] <humvee> also they r giving us advice re preparing tobe in r saf locations by then
[14:09] <humvee> the body of info is too complete 4 disinfo
[14:09] <humvee> as u read it think could a human have put this together?
[14:09] <lomovsky> yeah..i'm just now getting familiar with the 'zeta' site..
[14:09] <humvee> also the answers are given in real time to questions ppl ask
[14:10] <humvee> come to #poleshiftdiscussion & #zetatalk chats on saturday and you can ask a Q to nancy/zetas
[14:11] <lomovsky> ok i would
[14:11] <humvee> they are too sophisticated even 4 our scientists and on every topic and area of knowledge
[14:12] <humvee> i should go do something else now see i later
[14:12] <lomovsky> ok..
[14:12] <humvee> c u later - bye n good luck
[14:12] <lomovsky> :) ... "live in interesting times"
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[14:13] <humvee> humvee_35@hotmail.com
[14:15] <humvee>  Masisoar ?
[14:15] <Masisoar> Sorry =)
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[14:15] <humvee> priv talk
[14:16] <Hillel> bye folks
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[14:17] <Karl> Hello
[14:17] <humvee> hi karl
[14:17] <Karl> Hi humvee
[14:17] <Karl> Any big news today.
[14:18] <humvee> not sure ben here talking and is earlier my time zone - brb
[14:18] <Karl> Where are you?
[14:21] <humvee> hawaii
[14:22] <Karl> I was just there 2 weeks ago. I was on Maui.
[14:22] <Karl> Kanapali beach.
[14:22] <Karl> I live in Minnesota.
[14:23] <humvee> nice
[14:23] <Karl> I really enjoyed it.
[14:23] <humvee> which part of MN do u live in looking @ MN map now
[14:24] <Karl> I live in West Central. near a town called Detroit Lakes.
[14:24] <Karl> You should find it just southeast of Fargo,ND / Moorehead, MN.
[14:25] <humvee> cool that is where r dad is looking now 4 us
[14:25] <Karl> I take it you are moving soon.
[14:25] <humvee> dad is in Moorehead has phone n apartment
[14:25] <Karl> Good.
[14:26] <Karl> So your parents believe?
[14:26] <humvee> do u live with parents or r u abit older like us
[14:26] <Karl> I am 33.
[14:27] <humvee> yes r dad has known 4 20 years
[14:27] <humvee> oh us: me 57 wife chris = 35
[14:27] <Karl> How did he know so long ago.
[14:28] <humvee> read bbl and understood is lead can explain verse actual meaning a talent
[14:28] <humvee> im practicle going by criticle thinking only
[14:28] <Karl> I have read revelations and see the comparison.
[14:29] <humvee> yes iseah says look to the sky wormwood take ur familys to the mountains
[14:30] <humvee> the point is we are going to be in a good safe location
[14:30] <Karl> I dont have anyone to talk to about this. I am on my own. My wife is stricktly against alien life.
[14:30] <Karl> I dont even talk to her about it.
[14:31] <humvee> ok lots of family is like thast but it wont matter in the long run
[14:31] <Karl> No it wont.
[14:31] <Karl> I dont have much time. But I appreciate the conversation and hope to talk to you again soon.
[14:31] <Karl> Bye.
[14:31] <humvee> also more weomen after so u can have a couple of more
[14:32] <humvee> leaving?
[14:32] <Karl> I have to.
[14:32] <Karl> Its 4:30 pm here and I have to go home.
[14:32] <humvee>  humvee_35@hotmail.com  ok
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[14:32] <humvee> im on #poleshiftdiscussion mostly
[14:32] <Masisoar> That sort of situation sort of applies to me too, I'm basically on my own
[14:33] <humvee> Masisor p/t
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[14:49] <humvee> have to go do something real so bye for now
[14:49] <Masisoar> bye Hum =)
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[17:51] <vn> lol
[17:52] <vn> i'm permbanned from #poleshiftdiscussion I guess
[17:52] <vn> because I think queenvee is kicking people from the channel for no reason
[17:56] <walt> its her channel
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[18:01] <vn> you're right walt
[18:01] <vn> these other dedicated channels aren't as active either :<
[18:01] <Cruithne> yeah y not get your own channel
[18:02] <Cruithne> then set it to no kicks,bans, free speech
[18:02] <vn> my channel? I'm not making an own channel
[18:02] <Cruithne> then invite us all
[18:02] <vn> it won't be so active :)
[18:02] <Cruithne> i would visit
[18:03] <vn> this chan is fine
[18:03] <Cruithne> yes, it's a fine channel
[18:04] <raincity> walt, are you Loitus?
[18:04] <vn> I will visit poleshift later...it's not right time now for me ,since I got angry
[18:04] <Cruithne> oh,
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[18:04] <Cruithne> there's a saying about sticks & stimnes  breaking bones but words   etc
[18:04] <tex-away> you are welcome back anytime vn
[18:05] <vn> thanks tex.
[18:05] <tex-away> raincity what is this about walt being Loitus
[18:05] <tex-away> you are not banned vn
[18:06] <vn> thanks....I will come tomorrow..it's 4am here in finland now anyway so :) soon off to bed
[18:06] <raincity> tex-away: it was what QueenVee told me.  I just wanted to know if that was the case.
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[18:11] <walt> No Im Walt
[18:12] * Looking up walt user info...
[18:13] <walt> so thats the reason she banned me
[18:13] <walt> ROTFLMAO
[18:13] <raincity> It's like spy vs. spy around these parts.
[18:13] <walt> its called paranoia
[18:14] <raincity> I guess that will be increasing as we get closer to the shift.
[18:14] <walt> does LOITUS ever give out survival info?
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[18:15] <raincity> I don't recall.
[18:15] <raincity> I never saw him that often.
[18:15] <walt> next time I see LOITUS in TT I will let him know that QV thinks Im him/her
[18:16] <raincity> Well, she claimed something about logs being provided to debunkers.
[18:17] <walt> yep thats why she said she would ban anyone that was in TT and PSD at the same time
[18:17] <walt> I hate censors
[18:18] <walt> nobody tells me where to go or not to go, or who to speak to or not to speak to
[18:18] <raincity> I hear you.
[18:18] <walt> she is on a power trip
[18:19] <raincity> The debunkers are trying to turn us against each other.
[18:19] <walt> you people worry about the debunkers way too much
[18:19] <raincity> I'm not worried...just interested in the motivations.
[18:20] <walt> I would be more concerned about QV motivations
[18:20] <raincity> She wishes to organize people to better prepare for the pole shift...as far as I know.
[18:21] <walt> by denying them info? Because she thinks the person is someone else?
[18:21] <Cruithne> it will change soon enough , around px date
[18:22] <Cruithne> either all will c / believe  or not c
[18:22] <raincity> I don't think that was the idea.  The logs being given out were the problem.
[18:22] <walt> the logs are still being given out
[18:23] <raincity> I got banned for awhile because of it.
[18:23] <walt> see what I mean
[18:24] <walt> how in the hell is banning anyone she suspects helping the effort?
[18:24] <raincity> Yes, that's why the person doing it bugs me.
[18:25] <walt> I dont see why it bugs anyone, what info is given out?
[18:25] <walt> any secrets?
[18:25] <Cruithne> sssshh it's a secret
[18:25] <Cruithne> :)
[18:25] <raincity> No, but it is apparent that the logs are being used on debunking sites --twisted out of context.
[18:26] <Cruithne> i gotta secret .. i won't tell
[18:26] <raincity> lol.
[18:26] <Cruithne> who cares ..gotta a life to live..enjoy , no time for anything else like suspicous mind
[18:27] <Cruithne> i was once called a flower , i didn't mind
[18:27] <raincity> That's not so bad.
[18:28] <walt> there are alot of people in the PSD channel that dont do anything but lurk
[18:28] <raincity> not anymore.
[18:29] <raincity> I was lurking...but now I know better.
[18:30] <raincity> In any case, Walt, what do you think are the odds of PX becoming visible to naked eye in the coming weeks?
[18:31] <walt> 0
[18:32] <walt> altho there is a comet in that area right now
[18:32] <raincity> really, is it projected to remain in that area through May?
[18:32] <walt> I dont recall
[18:33] <walt> I would have to look it up again
[18:33] <walt> I saw it last night, or at least I think it was the comet
[18:33] <walt> I will have to ask HIMITSU when he gets on
[18:34] <raincity> ok.
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[18:42] <walt> hi
[18:42] <AgentMota> hello
[18:42] <Cruithne> :)
[18:43] <Cruithne> it's us new yorkers
[18:43] <AgentMota> I'm in LA...
[18:44] <Cruithne> & LA'ers
[18:44] <Cruithne> :)
[18:44] <AgentMota> ;)
[18:44] <Cruithne> ]when u leaving LA?
[18:45] <AgentMota> Soon as I get the cash together
[18:45] <AgentMota> Hopefully really soon :)
[18:45] <Cruithne> i hear that
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[19:29] <walt> Hi
[19:30] <Terminal> hey
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[20:20] <crispexi> heil
[20:21] <Terminal> crispexi!
[20:21] <crispexi> howdy
[20:21] <Terminal> hey
[20:21] <crispexi> refresh my memory of you
[20:21] <Terminal> i dont know you
[20:21] <crispexi> because you had a different nick
[20:21] <crispexi> ok
[20:22] <crispexi> no, did you have a different nick a few months ago here?
[20:22] <Terminal> nah, ive only been around a couple of weeks
[20:22] <crispexi> oh ok
[20:23] <crispexi> are you psy in anything
[20:24] <Terminal> not really, nothing that cool.
[20:24] <Terminal> are you at all?
[20:24] <crispexi> im really confused about myself
[20:24] <Terminal> why is that
[20:25] <crispexi> ive had my mind totally into making money and a relationship until it abruptly ended and i was in anxiety for 8-9 days and i met this kid who has a psy capability, he sent me some energy well now everything is just
[20:25] <crispexi> clashing into me
[20:26] <Terminal> cashing into you?
[20:26] <crispexi> it just seems to be all coming at me all at once
[20:26] <Terminal> like you are recieving psy messages or somethin
[20:26] <crispexi> like one day im thinking about business
[20:26] <crispexi> now im researching precognition
[20:27] <crispexi> and im just so in a tangle with myself, but i lol jeez
[20:27] <Terminal> strange
[20:27] <crispexi> im just relaxed and stuff, going into trance more often
[20:27] <crispexi> (Darksoulz) Q for NancyL/ZT: I've spoken to a couple of psychic friends of mine (seriously) about the possible upcomming poleshift but they all say this will not happen, although they speak of the possibility of a worldwide disaster that could hit humankind in the not so very far future
[20:27] <crispexi> :O
[20:27] <Terminal> interesting
[20:27] <Terminal> what do you think about the pole shift
[20:28] <crispexi> it wont happen for a few more years
[20:28] <crispexi> but something else will in the next 5 months
[20:28] <crispexi> thats why im all .. messed up
[20:28] <Terminal> any idea what?
[20:28] <crispexi> lol
[20:29] <crispexi> ehm
[20:29] <crispexi> i cant say
[20:29] <Terminal> ok
[20:29] <Terminal> is it really bad or somethin?
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[20:30] <crispexi> well
[20:30] <crispexi> they just told me i'll be uhm
[20:31] <crispexi> taken over
[20:31] <crispexi> mentally
[20:31] <crispexi> but i wont die
[20:31] <Terminal> everyone will be taken over, or just you?
[20:31] <crispexi> but im not sure if its even true
[20:31] <crispexi> just me
[20:31] <Terminal> any idea who send you this info
[20:32] <crispexi> i have a lot of defenses up i can block like any energy source but im not expereinced in it
[20:32] <crispexi> i promised not to say
[20:32] <Terminal> ok
[20:32] <crispexi> well you know
[20:32] <crispexi> they'll put us both into some hospital
[20:32] <crispexi> and drug us up
[20:32] <crispexi> label us crazy
[20:32] <Terminal> serious?
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[20:33] <crispexi> but im not worried anymore
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[20:33] <crispexi> i just want to find someone who is telepathic or anything in that area
[20:33] <tex-away> !down
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[20:33] <crispexi> im working on my precognition now but i have to wake up in 6 hours to catch a flight to florida
[20:33] <crispexi> i shuold go rest now
[20:34] <Terminal> ok then
[20:34] <Terminal> catch ya later
[20:34] <Terminal> good luck :)
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[20:35] <AgentMota> Huh.. strange name, Deus =)
[20:35] <DeusExMachina> it's greek
[20:35] <AgentMota> Yeah, I know what it means
[20:35] <DeusExMachina> good, saves me a lot of typing
[20:36] <DeusExMachina> so, what do you make of this whole pole shift scenario?
[20:37] <AgentMota> Uhh.. well May is approaching fast...
[20:37] <DeusExMachina> convinced? or still doubting?
[20:37] <AgentMota> No doubt
[20:38] <DeusExMachina> i'm not there yet
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[20:38] <DeusExMachina> still haven't decided
[20:38] <AgentMota> Haven't decided what?
[20:38] <DeusExMachina> if i believe that Nibiru will come in May
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[20:39] <DeusExMachina> what cleared all your doubts?
[20:39] <AgentMota> Ohh.. no doubt that something gonna happen
[20:39] <Terminal> nick Terminal[brb]
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[20:39] <DeusExMachina> how do you know?
[20:39] <crispexi> he can fortell the futu0re
[20:40] <AgentMota> Yeah... undercover
[20:40] <DeusExMachina> what do you mean?
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[20:40] <Terminal> you mean whoever is communicating with you can tell the future?
[20:41] <Terminal> has he proved this to you
[20:41] <walt> is it Ramtha?
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[20:41] <DeusExMachina> who's Ramtha?
[20:41] <walt> oh that right JZ has him
[20:41] <AgentMota> I'm on an incvestigation
[20:41] <DeusExMachina> investigating what?
[20:42] <AgentMota> Changes to the weather and such.. biogenetic engineering
[20:42] <DeusExMachina> how does that tie into the pole shift?
[20:43] <AgentMota> Some claim the approach of PX is causing the recent disturbances
[20:43] <AgentMota> Some... that is
[20:44] <DeusExMachina> but that cannot be proof, as the erratic weather could be caused by a number of things
[20:44] <DeusExMachina> just because the weather is acting up doesn't mean that we should jump to the conclusion that an inbound planet is causing it, should we?
[20:44] <crispexi> im out.
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[20:45] <walt> I dont believe there is an inbound planet
[20:45] <AgentMota> Of course not... stil don't have all the facts
[20:46] <DeusExMachina> so what makes you so sure of the pole shift in May?
[20:46] <walt> who?
[20:46] <Shaman464> i believe there is one coming!
[20:46] <DeusExMachina> Agent
[20:46] <DeusExMachina> Walt, are you 100% decided that you don't believe it's coming?
[20:46] <walt> 99%
[20:47] <AgentMota> I meant.. positive there was something going on
[20:47] <DeusExMachina> is it that last 1% that brings you here?
[20:47] <AgentMota> PS or not
[20:47] <Shaman464> what made you change your mind walt?
[20:47] <walt> nope, I came here to pass on survival and preparation information
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[20:48] <DeusExMachina> survival and prep for what?
[20:48] <walt> Hi HIM
[20:48] <walt> for those that are preping for PX
[20:48] <AgentMota> Konbanwa, Himitsu :)
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[20:48] <DeusExMachina> why, just for the hell of it?
[20:48] <walt> because I have the info available
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[20:49] <DeusExMachina> to give to people that are preparing for an event that you believe won't even occur?
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[20:49] <AgentMota> Walt uhh...
[20:49] <AgentMota> yeah
[20:49] <walt> yep
[20:49] <DeusExMachina> strange
[20:49] <tied2> «§» Hello  «§»
[20:49] <walt> Hi TIED
[20:50] <DeusExMachina> if i was convinced that no pole shift will happen, i definitely wouldn't be here, info or no info
[20:50] <AgentMota> Well.. there's been erratic signs.
[20:51] <DeusExMachina> that's right, Agent, weather here in Wisconsin has been crazy this winter
[20:52] <DeusExMachina> how about your locale Agent?
[20:52] <AgentMota> Whether PX shows, or what it is, there's evidence of something worth investigating
[20:52] <AgentMota> The beaches are nice here in LA =)
[20:52] <DeusExMachina> sure they are, better than the frozen wasteland i'm in right now
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[20:53] <AgentMota> Don't like it there? Move =)
[20:53] <DeusExMachina> too young yet
[20:53] <DeusExMachina> maybe in a few years
[20:54] <AgentMota> Try a vacation
[20:54] <DeusExMachina> in thte summer, though, this place is beautiful
[20:54] <AgentMota> Might relax you
[20:55] <DeusExMachina> school gets in the way of the whole vacation thing
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[20:56] <AgentMota> Spring break is coming up, is it not?
[20:56] <Cruithne> yes is coming
[20:56] <DeusExMachina> true
[20:56] <DeusExMachina> a vacation isn't what i need
[20:57] <Cruithne> what then
[20:57] <DeusExMachina> no idea, lol
[20:57] <AgentMota> I have some ideas, lol
[20:57] <DeusExMachina> that's the ever-present question, what do i need?
[20:57] <DeusExMachina> what would that be?
[20:58] <AgentMota> Can't tell.. I'm undercover ;)
[20:58] <DeusExMachina> right
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[20:58] <DeusExMachina> it's funny, for a while i did serious planning on just packing up and leaving
[20:59] <AgentMota> Really?
[20:59] <DeusExMachina> 16 years old and heading for Micronesia, lol
[20:59] <DeusExMachina> too risky though
[21:00] <AgentMota> Any idea what you're gonna then?
[21:00] <AgentMota> gonna do, that is
[21:00] <Cruithne> r u a surfer
[21:00] <DeusExMachina> maybe use the summer as a time for more planning on a place to escape to
[21:00] <DeusExMachina> no, i don't surf, wakeboard though
[21:01] <AgentMota> Have a firend here in LA who snowboards
[21:01] <AgentMota> It's been strange though.. weather's been too warm for the resorts to be open
[21:01] <DeusExMachina> i don't snowboard, in winter i stay inside as much as possible, i can't stand cold or snow
[21:02] <AgentMota> Not only that, he had a rupture on the left side of his snowboard
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[21:02] <AgentMota> Had to exchange it for a new one
[21:02] <DeusExMachina> strange weather here too, we go the entire winter with almost no snow, then 8 inches of it drops in the last two days
[21:03] <AgentMota> Maybe I could do some snowboarding if I visit my relatives there =)
[21:03] <DeusExMachina> in wisconsin?
[21:03] <AgentMota> Yup
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[21:04] <DeusExMachina> come in the summer and find a lake, that's when Wisconsin is at its best
[21:05] <AgentMota> No kidding
[21:05] <DeusExMachina> yep, can't wait to hear the crickets on a warm night by the lake again
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[21:06] <DeusExMachina> might be leaving it all behind after summer though
[21:07] <AgentMota> Maybe a road trip?
[21:07] <DeusExMachina> an undercover road trip, probably on a Greyhound bus
[21:09] <DeusExMachina> depends on a lot of things
[21:09] <DeusExMachina> been into some "investigating" myself
[21:09] <DeusExMachina> that might change my course
[21:09] <AgentMota> Found anything interesting?
[21:09] <DeusExMachina> heard of David Icke?
[21:09] <Cruithne> yeah
[21:09] <AgentMota> Yeah
[21:09] <DeusExMachina> it's interesting
[21:10] <AgentMota> Famous British author
[21:10] <DeusExMachina> don't know if it true
[21:10] <AgentMota> I've been to England
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[21:10] <DeusExMachina> he's not that famous
[21:10] <AgentMota> In some circles
[21:10] <tied2> «§» Hello Valdrix «§»
[21:10] <Valdrix> heyhey
[21:10] <DeusExMachina> what do you make of his theories?
[21:11] <AgentMota> Evil man! Full of rubbish!
[21:11] <Cruithne> ah kinda same ole same ole
[21:11] <AgentMota> But... that's up for you to decide
[21:11] <DeusExMachina> what makes you think so?
[21:11] <Cruithne> i give him no pwr
[21:11] <AgentMota> I mean, everyone has the right to express opinions
[21:11] <Cruithne> yeah
[21:12] <DeusExMachina> yes, and i want to know the reasoning behind your opinion
[21:12] <DeusExMachina> i'm not confronting you, i'm just curious
[21:12] <Valdrix> express opinions? man did i have it wrong.. i was opressing onions
[21:12] <Cruithne> it's just the impression i get from his info
[21:12] <DeusExMachina> Cru, don't look at the impression, look at the evidence
[21:12] <DeusExMachina> isn't that what's important?
[21:12] <AgentMota> In al honesty, I've only barely read his books
[21:13] <walt> bet he has a book or 2 to sell?
[21:13] <DeusExMachina> same here, what I've read makes sense if his sources check out
[21:13] <Cruithne> oh yeah
[21:13] <walt> : )
[21:13] <AgentMota> Isn't fair to judge someone before you know about them
[21:13] <DeusExMachina> i think he has like 5 or so books Walt
[21:13] <DeusExMachina> why the smile Walt?
[21:14] <DeusExMachina> something you suspect?
[21:15] <DeusExMachina> it's wild stuff, reptilian hybrids controlling the world
[21:15] <AgentMota> He makes some good philosophical polits, however
[21:15] <AgentMota> points
[21:15] <DeusExMachina> that's true, his opening chapters are very good in the book i'm reading
[21:16] <AgentMota> His stuff reads so much like tabloid journalism, tho
[21:16] <DeusExMachina> in what way?
[21:16] <AgentMota> Ponting fingers and wild, erroneous interpretations
[21:16] <AgentMota> Like, shick value, youy know?
[21:16] <AgentMota> shock
[21:17] <AgentMota> lol, where are my fingers?
[21:17] <DeusExMachina> well, as far as the interpretations, they aren't his own
[21:17] <AgentMota> Sensationalist journalism... sells books
[21:17] <walt> but thats whats sells the books
[21:17] <DeusExMachina> he cites heavily on someone named L.A. Waddell who's done some translations i guess
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[21:18] <AgentMota> Stories meant to entertain?
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[21:18] <DeusExMachina> by all appearances, historical accounts
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[21:19] <DeusExMachina> what i've read so far deals with the historical references to serpents and reptiles
[21:19] <AgentMota> Hmmm...
[21:20] <DeusExMachina> how the "gods" of ancient times were given names that meant things like "serpent goddess" and whatnot
[21:20] <AgentMota> So I can retrieve the data recorder from the BioLab?
[21:20] <AgentMota> Oh sorry, it's a game I'm playing =)
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[21:21] <DeusExMachina> basically, he ties in ancient symbolism to modern times
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[21:21] <AgentMota> Sounds like it might be interesting
[21:21] <DeusExMachina> showing how ancient symbols are used extensively by government, churches, elite families, etc.
[21:22] <Spanky_> the caduceus or double serpent is clearly a DNA strand.  This was brought here probably by the 12th planet hominoids
[21:22] <walt> yes its all a plot bu the Reptilians
[21:23] <DeusExMachina> but Icke claims that the Annunaki are reptilian, which obviously goes against what the Zetas say
[21:23] <DeusExMachina> he even says that the Zetas themselves are reptilian, lol
[21:23] <AgentMota> Hmmmm
[21:23] <Spanky_> the zetas look to me like they evolved from cats
[21:24] <DeusExMachina> Icke says that, according to Africans who have supposedly retrieved the bodies of dead Zetas, they have a reptilian body under the grey suit
[21:24] <DeusExMachina> so the big black eyes are goggles, instead of actual eyes
[21:25] <DeusExMachina> weird stuff
[21:25] <AgentMota> Seems everyone's got a different story
[21:26] <DeusExMachina> well, Icke apparently has sources, whereas the Zetas give only hearsay
[21:26] <AgentMota> Zetas are almost pure intellect, right?
[21:26] <DeusExMachina> that's what the site says
[21:26] <Spanky_> like the vulcans
[21:27] <AgentMota> And there are different kinds
[21:27] <DeusExMachina> of Zetas?
[21:27] <AgentMota> Greys
[21:27] <DeusExMachina> same thing
[21:28] <DeusExMachina> Walt, what do you make of Icke?
[21:28] <AgentMota> I think Daria is a Zetan ;)
[21:28] <DeusExMachina> Daria?
[21:28] <AgentMota> She's got the glasses!
[21:28] <DeusExMachina> oh, yes
[21:29] <AgentMota> That would make Jane a...
[21:29] <AgentMota> Hybrid?
[21:30] <DeusExMachina> i think i lost touch with the whole "council or worlds" thing when Zetatalk said that aliens caused Columbia to send a message to the Bush Admin
[21:30] <Himitsu> lol
[21:30] <DeusExMachina> couldn't they have abducted him and given him a lecture or something?
[21:31] <DeusExMachina> honestly, with the technology and level of intelligence that Zetatalk claims the Council of Worlds has, they could have gone about it a million different ways
[21:31] <AgentMota> Hmmm...
[21:31] <DeusExMachina> completely unneccessary to destroy it
[21:31] <AgentMota> I agree
[21:32] <DeusExMachina> but you should check out the video that Alex Jones made
[21:32] <AgentMota> So do you think the Zetas were responsible, then?
[21:33] <DeusExMachina> the Zetas say it wasn't them, another alien group with the blessings of the Council of Worlds
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[21:34] <AgentMota> So, according to you, it was some other alien group associated with PX
[21:34] <AgentMota> ?
[21:34] <DeusExMachina> no, i don't know know what caused it
[21:35] <DeusExMachina> that's according to the Zetatalk website
[21:35] <DeusExMachina> not me
[21:35] <AgentMota> Oh ok
[21:35] <AgentMota> What the Zetas said
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[21:36] <AgentMota> who are "Never Wrong!"
[21:36] <DeusExMachina> anyway, on the Icke subject, there is actually someone who claims to have a video of these satanic rituals being performed by the world's most powerful people
[21:36] <AgentMota> Infornography?
[21:37] <DeusExMachina> says he snuck into the Bohemian Grove compound and caught it all on digital camera
[21:37] <DeusExMachina> Bush, Powell, Reagon, all performing a strange ritual next to a owl stature or something
[21:37] <DeusExMachina> haven't seen it myself
[21:38] <DeusExMachina> but it seems interesting
[21:38] <AgentMota> Hmm weird
[21:39] <DeusExMachina> yeah, could be fake
[21:39] <DeusExMachina> don't know
[21:39] <DeusExMachina> time for me to get some sleep
[21:40] <DeusExMachina> good bye
[21:40] <AgentMota> Giidnight
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[21:40] <AgentMota> goodnight, err
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[22:48] <walt> Hi, Welcome to the PSD reject room
[22:48] <walt> : )
[22:48] <Cruithne> Y thank U
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[23:22] <tied2`away> walt  lol
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[23:25] <walt> : )
[23:26] <Cruithne> walt u c ;http://www.carlspackler.com/archive/cs_263.jpg
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[23:34] <walt> cool
[23:49] <tied2`away> well shit
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[23:57] <tied2`away> «§» Good Nite!  «§»
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