Session Start: Thu Feb 06 00:00:00 2003
Session Ident: #EarthChanges
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[01:31] <scooby> nite bud
[01:32] <Zetapal> Im still here for awhile
[01:32] <scooby> ok
[01:32] <scooby> thought you might have been fading
[01:36] <Zetapal> yeah I am actually
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[01:38] <Swanny> hiya guys :)
[01:38] <scooby> hi swanny
[01:38] <Swanny> just recieved my Terrorist Response Package from our government...
[01:38] <scooby> sounds scary
[01:38] <Swanny> I am re-addressing it unopened to our Prime Minister.
[01:39] <scooby> you go grrrrl
[01:39] <Swanny> sucks to be him.
[01:39] <scooby> yeah, he got no confidence vote, yes?
[01:40] <Swanny> well, just stopping by, say hello to Dsarith, tell her I will drop in off and on...
[01:40] <scooby> ok
[01:40] <Swanny> dunno, I don't vote, nor pay any attention to the goings on of parlient.
[01:40] <Swanny> Poor excuse, I know.
[01:40] <scooby> so you have no right to complain
[01:40] <Swanny> It is not my time yet ;)
[01:40] <scooby> thats how i feel
[01:41] <Swanny> thats true, so I just stay out of their face as long as they stay out of mine.
[01:41] <scooby> yeah
[01:41] <Swanny> I will not be party to this war.
[01:42] <Swanny> it is costing around $15million to send out this package.
[01:42] <scooby> omg
[01:42] <scooby> that is ridiculoous
[01:42] <Swanny> Just as well we aren't paying tax yet either.
[01:42] <scooby> lol
[01:42] <scooby> you may get out of it too
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[08:08] <Dsarith> Hi Himitsu
[08:09] <Dsarith> How is it going in your world?
[08:09] <Dsarith> Himitsu
[08:09] <Dsarith> Himitsu
[08:09] <Dsarith> Himitsu
[08:09] <Dsarith> lol
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[09:22] <Dsarith> Hi Karl
[09:23] <Dsarith> The Poleshiftdiscussion channel is very specific to those already preparing.
[09:24] <Dsarith> Karl
[09:24] <Karl> here
[09:25] <Karl> I understand and do not want to cause problems.
[09:25] <Dsarith> Dont take getting kicked personal
[09:25] <Karl> I wont.
[09:25] <Dsarith> Good...
[09:25] <Karl> I just dont have anyone to talk to about it.
[09:25] <Dsarith> Lots of people come in both PRO and CON
[09:25] <Dsarith> Here is where you talk and listen to both sides
[09:25] <Karl> Fair.
[09:26] <Dsarith> In fact, I encourage anti to talk too
[09:26] <Karl> I wonder if more people know and are just not saying anything.
[09:26] <Dsarith> Its possible. The biggest thing is that you have two things going for you
[09:26] <Dsarith> First you are aware
[09:27] <Dsarith> Second if what comes to pass comes in March 30 you will know and have 7 weeks to make plans. If nothing happens, then you havent lost anyhting
[09:27] <Dsarith> So you are good either way
[09:27] <Dsarith> Have a good plan and invoke it if it looks possible
[09:27] <Karl> Like I stated in the other room I have made some secret preperations.
[09:27] <Karl> My wife would never buy into this.
[09:28] <Dsarith> No ones family is buying into it
[09:28] <Dsarith> Have you read safe locales on zetatalk
[09:28] <Karl> yes and I live in one.
[09:28] <Dsarith> Ok then you are good to go
[09:28] <Karl> minnesota.
[09:28] <Dsarith> Not in a city
[09:28] <Dsarith> Perfect
[09:28] <Dsarith> Outside of the city
[09:28] <Karl> No in the country with lake shore.
[09:29] <Dsarith> Big Lake
[09:29] <Karl> Not to big.
[09:29] <Dsarith> Ok there are two things quesitons that you have to ask yourself
[09:29] <Karl> Big enough and deep enough. My house sits about 50 feet above lake level.
[09:30] <Karl> I have a nice steep bank down to the water.
[09:30] <Dsarith> First is the planet going to shift or something else going to happen catastrophic
[09:30] <Dsarith> Second do you want to live in afterlife
[09:30] <Karl> I have already chosen life.
[09:30] <Dsarith> ONce answered then you know your pursuit.
[09:30] <Dsarith> Tell me what things you have prepared
[09:31] <Dsarith> And ask whatever questions you may have
[09:31] <Dsarith> Have you read zetatalk?
[09:31] <Karl> In the bank down to the lake I have dug out 2 small Storage areas. In both of them I have canned foods and dried meats.
[09:31] <Karl> Yes I have read zetatalk.
[09:32] <Dsarith> What do you think about it
[09:32] <Dsarith> Lots to take int
[09:32] <Karl> I must admit Nancy (the zetas) have some compelling info.
[09:33] <Dsarith> Have you read the con stuff like  skepticalminds.com
[09:33] <Karl> I have myself as a child seen what I would describe as (a grey)
[09:33] <Karl> I have read both.
[09:33] <Karl> I have links to both sites. I check both everyday.
[09:34] <Karl> I have read the works of zacharia Stichen.
[09:34] <Karl> I have studied Revelations.
[09:34] <Dsarith> I have too... stichen is very interesting
[09:34] <Karl> Very.
[09:34] <Karl> His works are what eventually lead me here.
[09:35] <Dsarith> Stitchen believes that planet X is not coming in may, but thinks it will come someday soon
[09:35] <Karl> What do you think Dsarith.
[09:35] <Dsarith> However, I put stitchin on the pro side
[09:36] <Karl> Stitchin is definatly on the pro side.
[09:36] <Dsarith> Well, I think something is going on really weird on this earth
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[09:36] <Dsarith> There is enough geological proof to show something comes every 3600 years
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[09:37] <Dsarith> Mammoth Freezing, ancient tribes freezing in mid stride, or mid preparing
[09:37] <Dsarith> Something had to cause that
[09:37] <Karl> I agree.
[09:38] <Karl> Entire cultures just gone. Dissapearing and leaving cities as in south america.
[09:38] <Dsarith> Yes, definitely
[09:38] <Karl> Have you been reading any research about south american discoveries.
[09:38] <Karl> They seem to be kept quite.
[09:38] <Dsarith> Not much
[09:39] <Dsarith> What have you learned
[09:39] <Karl> Most of the tributaties of the amazon river are acctualy man made.
[09:39] <Karl> They cannot date when.
[09:39] <Karl> Advanced agricuture.
[09:40] <Karl> Possibly the ruins of atlantis.
[09:40] <Dsarith> Interesting
[09:40] <Dsarith> I think Stitchin was correct in is understanding of the tablets
[09:40] <Dsarith> There must have been an advanced civilization
[09:40] <Dsarith> Something happened to them
[09:41] <Karl> I belive there was once a world wide culture long before our own.
[09:41] <Dsarith> I agree... One sec
[09:45] <Dsarith> I am back
[09:45] <Karl> I have a love of ancient things.
[09:45] <Dsarith> Me too, there is always something new to discover
[09:45] <Dsarith> and understand
[09:46] <Dsarith> What are you doing about shelter
[09:46] <Karl> We have lost more knowledge in the past than we have gained.
[09:46] <Dsarith> Thats the truth
[09:47] <Dsarith> Its funny Karl how people are anti
[09:48] <Dsarith> I believe always in the possibility of everything, but quesition the probability
[09:48] <Dsarith> Have you been to shift2003.com
[09:48] <Karl> yes
[09:48] <Karl> I understand the anti people.
[09:49] <Karl> They dont believe anything can change.
[09:49] <Dsarith> I understand their position completely, I just dont understand why they have to be right.
[09:49] <Karl> I hope we are wrong.
[09:49] <Dsarith> I do too
[09:50] <Dsarith> The funny thing that all of it will be found out by March 30 either way
[09:50] <Karl> I am waiting to see it in the sky.
[09:50] <Dsarith> If it shows then those that believe in PX and poleshift will be right. If it doesnt then nothing lost and nothing gained.
[09:50] <Karl> I wonder what will become of nancy if nothing happens.
[09:50] <Dsarith> I am too mainly cuz like you I cant get my family to go without them being able to see it
[09:51] <Dsarith> Not really sure, that will be interesting
[09:51] <Karl> I have choosen not to bring it up to my wife.
[09:51] <Dsarith> What happens in March and you see it
[09:51] <Dsarith> How old are you ... I am 36 from Dallas TX
[09:51] <Karl> 32 Detroit Lakes MN
[09:52] <Dsarith> You in my generation :-)
[09:52] <Dsarith> What are you going to do with the poleshift... as far as shelter
[09:53] <Dsarith> I am going to have to move to colorado so you are much better off than I
[09:53] <Karl> I have a design that will not take me long to build.
[09:53] <Dsarith> How about water
[09:53] <Karl> I have built a still
[09:53] <Dsarith> Really... cool..
[09:53] <Dsarith> Describe it to me
[09:54] <Karl> All it consists of is a large metal holding tank that can sit on a fire, some copper pipe to condese the steam and a catch basin to collect the destilled water.
[09:55] <Karl> Not a hard thing to build.
[09:55] <Dsarith> There are so many inventive ideas
[09:55] <Dsarith> ON every aspect
[09:56] <Dsarith> What about power
[09:56] <Karl> I am not going to rely on power.
[09:56] <Karl> It will be to difficult to keep a generator maintained and fueled.
[09:57] <Dsarith> There were several issues on using bikes, coils and other stuff
[09:57] <Dsarith> You can always do a windmill
[09:57] <Karl> I have seen alot of good ideas on the web.
[09:57] <Dsarith> Yah, me too.. I have been reading on survival stuff too
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[09:58] <Dsarith> Hi RNT
[09:58] <Karl> Power is somthing I can live without, so it will only create a burden to maintain.
[09:58] <Dsarith> Again
[09:58] <RNTHOMAS> Howdy...   
[09:58] <Karl> Hello
[09:58] <RNTHOMAS> Feeling pretty tired... Yawn... Need more coffee
[09:58] <Dsarith> RNT is really cool and helpful
[09:59] <Karl> Oh god I almost forgot about coffee after the shift!
[09:59] <RNTHOMAS> I think that's enuff reason right there!
[09:59] <RNTHOMAS> I'm gonna move to calif and get it over quick... No COFFEE, there's no more reason to live!
[10:00] <Karl> I will choose life myself.
[10:00] <RNTHOMAS> But but but!!! Life without COFFEE!
[10:01] <RNTHOMAS> We'll die or live in eternal misery!
[10:01] <Karl> Hey Im having a fit about where to buy Smokes after.
[10:01] <RNTHOMAS> Ewww... That's a bad one...  No smokes...  YIKES!
[10:02] <Karl> Have to find a way to grow myown.
[10:02] <Karl> But then they will lack the good stuff like tar.
[10:02] <RNTHOMAS> Where R U gonna get the TAR and assorted other poisons from to add to your tobacco?
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[10:02] <Karl> Old tires.
[10:03] <RNTHOMAS> Why not just grow DOPE.  Goood olde BC - Bud!
[10:03] <Karl> No i may need my brain.
[10:03] <RNTHOMAS> Grows quite well, and then ya don't need tar and other assorted poisons.
[10:04] <Karl> There is already enough of that growing here.
[10:04] <RNTHOMAS> I rest me case...  lol!
[10:04] <Karl> Where are you from RNT?
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[10:05] <Karl> Welcome back Dsarith
[10:05] <RNTHOMAS> Vancouver Island...
[10:05] <Dsarith> Server Kicked me off
[10:05] <Karl> Are you planning to move?
[10:05] <RNTHOMAS> Most of the BC Bud is grown with hydoponics..
[10:06] <Karl> It grows in the ditches here in Minnesota.
[10:06] <RNTHOMAS> Move, you bet, but if I can't leave, we have a backup plan in place... What about you Karl?
[10:06] <Karl> I am in a good location allready. West Central Minnesota.
[10:06] <RNTHOMAS> Nothin like smokin a little rope...
[10:06] <Karl> Exactly.
[10:07] <Karl> The native americans here have it growing everywhere.
[10:08] <RNTHOMAS> It grows quite well here as well...
[10:09] <RNTHOMAS> As you probably already know when it comes to BC and bud!
[10:09] <Karl> Could be a valuable item for trade.
[10:09] <Karl> Think of all the rope people will need.
[10:09] <RNTHOMAS> Well in terms of material it's awsome...
[10:10] <RNTHOMAS> Rope and or clothing...
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[10:10] <Karl> Hemp Panties theres a concept.
[10:10] <Karl> Got something to smoke afterwards.
[10:10] <RNTHOMAS> I saw some in courtney last week...  Hemp store...
[10:11] <RNTHOMAS> Eww! I don't even wanna think about it...
[10:11] <Karl> How old are you Rnt?
[10:11] <RNTHOMAS> 38
[10:12] <RNTHOMAS> Almost over the hill...
[10:12] <Karl> 32 Here.
[10:12] <Karl> What do you do for a living?
[10:12] <RNTHOMAS> Most people around here are young...  < 23 years...
[10:13] <Karl> I talked with one yesterday called humvee. 57 from hawaii
[10:13] <Karl> moving to MN soon.
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[10:14] <RNTHOMAS> It's possible to survive the poleshift on Vancouver Island...  You'd wanna be about 1-2 KM vertical...
[10:14] <RNTHOMAS> But the best spot is inland...   Away from Volcanoes and failt lines.
[10:14] <Karl> Are you going to wait for PX to be visable first?
[10:15] <RNTHOMAS> Nope...   The first of our crew is moving at the end of the month...
[10:15] <Karl> Where to.
[10:15] <RNTHOMAS> And I am just working on health... Fixing our bodies so we don't get sick anymore.
[10:15] <Karl> How big is your crew?
[10:15] <RNTHOMAS> Near Calgary...
[10:16] <RNTHOMAS> The core people are about 5-10.   At the location there are more people who are allready setup for after poleshift living...
[10:17] <Karl> I am a crew of 1. I dont know anyone else.
[10:17] <RNTHOMAS> So there will be a group of about 20-25 at the location.
[10:17] <RNTHOMAS> Here on the island, if I get stuck here, there will be about 10 people...
[10:17] <Karl> My wife and kids will be shocked but they will adjust.
[10:17] <Karl> I hope you get off the island.
[10:18] <RNTHOMAS> So do I...
[10:18] <Karl> Do you think they will limit travel closer to may?
[10:18] <RNTHOMAS> It's a possibility...
[10:19] <Karl> With border security up it wouldnt suprize me.
[10:19] <RNTHOMAS> But Vancouver Island is pretty big...
[10:19] <RNTHOMAS> Can't limit travel locally on the island...
[10:19] <RNTHOMAS> Gates are not a problem, have winch will pull lock off...
[10:19] <Karl> true...
[10:20] <Dsarith> Karl: Did you see private message
[10:20] <Karl> What are the winds supposed to be like for your area during the shift?
[10:20] <Karl> no
[10:21] <RNTHOMAS> One thing really nice about B.C.   I've got GIS database access for the entire province...
[10:22] <RNTHOMAS> I know the age of the rock, where the faults, contact points, and volcanoes are...
[10:22] <Karl> I am lucky not to have those things here in Minnesota.
[10:22] <RNTHOMAS> It's pretty sweet...
[10:22] <RNTHOMAS> Makes checking possible locations out very easy to do...
[10:23] <Karl> I am glad you are prepared.
[10:23] <RNTHOMAS> I don't think anyone's really prepared...
[10:23] <RNTHOMAS> I am weak in foods, power generation...
[10:24] <Karl> did you sever any ties. I mean just in case it doesnt happen?
[10:24] <RNTHOMAS> Strong in Camping gear, tents, clothing...
[10:24] <Karl> Still have your job and bank account?
[10:24] <RNTHOMAS> Yup...
[10:24] <RNTHOMAS> That's why I'm still here...
[10:24] <Dsarith> I am with RNT
[10:24] <Dsarith> However, If I see March 30, I will be so gone... lol
[10:25] <Karl> If it doesnt happen this has been a great exercise in getting prepaired.
[10:25] <Dsarith> Exactly Karl
[10:25] <RNTHOMAS> The changes in the solar system, and on earth is enough to put me into 'ALERT STATUS'...
[10:25] <Dsarith> Exactly RNT
[10:25] <Karl> I to am in Yellow Alert right now. March 30 will either put my back to green or up to red.
[10:26] <Karl> And if it doesnt happen I have my still.
[10:26] <RNTHOMAS> May 15th I am not expecting to see pX
[10:26] <Karl> Corn wiskey this summer!
[10:26] <RNTHOMAS> I'm thinking of more along the lines of October when Px arrives...
[10:27] <Karl> October? You think the dates are wrong?
[10:27] <RNTHOMAS> Or in 2004...  The pics on ZT don't show enough for an arrival by May 15th...
[10:27] <RNTHOMAS> It's typical dis-information game...
[10:27] <Karl> I have heard that about zetatalk as well.
[10:27] <RNTHOMAS> 90% of the site may be correct, it's the 1% that'll kill ya...
[10:28] <Dsarith> I cant read them and you may be right RNT. However ZT will lose a lot of credibility if it doesnt show
[10:28] <RNTHOMAS> According to the plan...
[10:28] <Karl> Remember not only will zeta-talk lose credibility so will anyone with a future message about planes x.
[10:28] <RNTHOMAS> It's the 'perfect' dis-information machine...
[10:28] <Dsarith> That is very true Karl.
[10:28] <Karl> planet x that is.
[10:29] <Dsarith> Even if it is true, future calls of Planet X will be treated with disgust
[10:29] <Karl> If it is dis-information then we better all watch ourselves and not trust anyone.
[10:29] <RNTHOMAS> That's exactly why it's so 'perfect'.
[10:30] <Karl> If it is wrong I will watch the sky alot more.
[10:30] <RNTHOMAS> The pics aren't showing anything...   
[10:30] <RNTHOMAS> Even J Mcanny isn't very trustable to me at this time.
[10:30] <Karl> I am not going by the pics. I am waiting until the 30th of march.
[10:31] <RNTHOMAS> To me Orion is the correct spot to watch...
[10:31] <Karl> Dsarith what do you say?
[10:32] <Karl> I need a smoke. Be back in about 10.
[10:33] <RNTHOMAS> Need drugs (caffine)...
[10:33] <Dsarith> lol
[10:33] <Dsarith> I cant read those pics if I had to
[10:37] <Karl> im back cold outside. Smoke fast.
[10:38] <Karl> I look at the pics as they become available but have not seen anything I can recognise.
[10:40] <Karl> Are there any other chat groups re. this subject? I am in zetatalk, EarthChanges, and Troubled_times.
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[10:46] <Karl> Well we will know soon enough. I have to go for while. will return in a few hours. Bye.
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[11:10] <RNTHOMAS> Yawn
[11:12] <Cruithne> achoo
[11:12] <RNTHOMAS> Nothin like a few flue virus's as friends...
[11:12] <RNTHOMAS> I'm full of MSM... Yawn!
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[12:24] <Zetapal> lol I luv it
[12:27] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O
[12:36] <Viscid> ..?
[12:37] <Zetapal> Hi Viscid
[12:37] <Viscid> hullo
[12:38] <Zetapal> I've got a two minute video feed from a predator drone directing fire for an AC 130 gunship on taliban positions - fairly graphic -
[12:38] <Viscid> I have it also
[12:39] <Viscid> Downloaded it a few months ago
[12:39] <raincity> where can I get that?
[12:39] <Zetapal> ahh ok cool
[12:39] <Viscid> I have a nice 110 MB version of it. =D
[12:39] <Zetapal> raincity - I can dcc it to you if you can recieve...
[12:39] <raincity> I think I can...give it a try.
[12:40] <Zetapal> wow Viiscid - is that 110mb for the same two minutes or do you have more?
[12:40] <raincity> cool, its working.
[12:43] <Viscid> Zetapal: lemmie see how long it is
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[12:43] <Viscid> It's 160 MB, sorry
[12:43] <Viscid> and it's 10 mins long
[12:44] <Viscid> It has the approach to the buildings, which is about 1 min long
[12:44] <Zetapal> wmv format?
[12:44] <Viscid> Mpeg
[12:45] <Viscid> I had the wmv, but it wasn't that great quality
[12:45] <Zetapal> mm
[12:45] <Viscid> maybe I can track down where I got it from, sec
[12:45] <Zetapal> that would be great
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[12:46] <Viscid> http://www.eediots.com/gunship_video.mpeg
[12:48] <Zetapal> great Viscid - downloading now - thanks
[12:48] <Viscid> no prob
[12:48] <raincity> Thanks, Zetapal.
[12:49] <Zetapal> sure raincity - if you like it, check out that link above for a larger version which is probably better quality
[12:49] <raincity> ok.
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