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[04:14] * Topic is 'Preparation for the MAY2003 POLESHIFT & AFTERTIME, for those familiar with www.zetatalk.com. Those who wish to debate the validity of the poleshift/ZetaTalk are NOT welcome. Newcomers should read www.zetatalk.com for answers to basic questions.'
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Session Start: Wed Dec 04 09:13:09 2002
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[09:13] * Topic is 'Preparation for the MAY2003 POLESHIFT & AFTERTIME, for those familiar with www.zetatalk.com. Those who wish to debate the validity of the poleshift/ZetaTalk are NOT welcome. Newcomers should read www.zetatalk.com for answers to basic questions.'
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Session Start: Wed Dec 04 13:01:05 2002
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
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[13:01] * Topic is 'Preparation for the MAY2003 POLESHIFT & AFTERTIME, for those familiar with www.zetatalk.com. Those who wish to debate the validity of the poleshift/ZetaTalk are NOT welcome. Newcomers should read www.zetatalk.com for answers to basic questions.'
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[13:01] <raincity> Hi
[13:01] <raincity> Anything new today?
[13:01] <kindred> hello raincity
[13:01] <RNTHOMAS> So if we appear to not be reading the site, it's cuz we have difficulties finding what we want.. It's not that we're being lazy...
[13:01] <kindred> sam ol sam ol
[13:01] <tied2> go to http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p00.htm and see the end of the link ? p00.htm? that is the page so manually in your browser just change the page # up ! like this p01.htm and so on
[13:01] <QueenVee> RN: cry me a river
[13:02] <QueenVee> i have no problem finding anything because i've taken the time to read and get to know the site
[13:02] <RNTHOMAS> QV: somebodies gotta do it! I'm pretty good at it! lol
[13:02] <kindred> isnt that nice
[13:03] <Shaman464> anyone have a tentive plan for suriving?
[13:03] <kindred> yeah after 5 years ILl be a pro too
[13:03] <QueenVee> kindred: try 6 months
[13:03] <kindred> you been around for only 6 months
[13:04] <QueenVee> yep
[13:04] <RNTHOMAS> OK, your sitting in front of something for the first time, and you can't find anything cuz the search engine returns 1 valid english readable page for every 25 hits returned...
[13:04] <RNTHOMAS> WAAA!!! Snibble snibble
[13:04] <RNTHOMAS> whine whine!
[13:04] <kindred> sorry must have been someone else I was thinking about
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[13:04] <cmel> hi
[13:04] <tied2> «««««««««««« Hello cmel »»»»»»»»»»»»
[13:04] <BoY> i have been unable to find out how nancy L & zeta talk came to be
[13:04] <RNTHOMAS> But seriously, I am trying to be constructive here...
[13:04] <QueenVee> look, obviously i don't mind answering questions, but only after you've at least made an attempt to look it up
[13:04] <Shaman464> hi Cmel
[13:04] <kindred> WELL 6 months as compared to 1 week ah RNTHOMAS
[13:05] <QueenVee> how about questions more like "where can i find info on the site about such and such...."?
[13:05] <QueenVee> that way i can narrow it down for you without having to look everything up for you
[13:05] <cmel> hi tied2 n Shaman464
[13:05] <tied2> besides why would you wanna take QV's woerd for it anyways he he J/K
[13:06] <tied2> word
[13:06] <cmel> hi QV
[13:06] <cmel> word tied2
[13:07] <QueenVee> tied2: i usually back up everything i say with a link to the site
[13:07] <QueenVee> hello cmel
[13:07] <tied2> lol I'm just yanking your chain .....
[13:07] <kindred> SHes on kill mode Tied
[13:08] <tied2> I know
[13:08] <tied2> I think it's hormones
[13:08] <cmel> no
[13:08] <tied2> or did she quit smoking? lol
[13:09] <kindred> Never say its hormounes
[13:09] <cmel> never make fun of ppl .... well at least not in front of them !
[13:09] <kindred> ...........................lol ...ok
[13:09] <QueenVee> i just had a hysterectomy, guys. I don't have hormones anymore.
[13:10] <cmel> I didn't want to say it QV
[13:10] <tied2> hey if we can't have a little fun then whats the uses
[13:10] <kindred> TO MUCH INFO
[13:10] <kindred> lol kidn
[13:10] <kindred> right on Tied
[13:10] <QueenVee> hey, you brought up hormones.....
[13:10] <tied2> lmao
[13:10] <QueenVee> i assumed you had an interest in my physiology....
[13:11] <kindred> see i told you never use that word around women
[13:11] <cmel> who is grilling who ?
[13:11] <Shaman464> lol
[13:11] <kindred> A/S/L Queen
[13:11] <tied2> Queen whats your sign? lol
[13:12] <QueenVee> guess
[13:12] <kindred> scorpio
[13:12] <QueenVee> haha
[13:12] <QueenVee> no
[13:12] <kindred> lol
[13:12] <tied2> Taurus
[13:12] <cmel> Taurus
[13:12] <Shaman464> libera
[13:12] <tied2> lol
[13:12] <cmel> Libero
[13:12] <QueenVee> pretty good -- my moon is in Taurus, and my rising sign is Libra
[13:13] <Shaman464> lol
[13:13] <QueenVee> but you haven't guessed my sun sign
[13:13] <cmel> heh
[13:13] <Shaman464> leo?
[13:13] <QueenVee> bingo
[13:13] <kindred> so it should be guess my SIGNS
[13:13] <cmel> haha
[13:13] <QueenVee> sun in Leo, moon in Taurus, Libra rising
[13:13] <QueenVee> in other words, i'm a lunatic
[13:14] <kindred> Scorpio every 28 days
[13:14] <cmel> my signs is in the fields ... hehe
[13:14] <kindred> kidn........agian
[13:15] <kindred> sooo a lunatic is running this site!
[13:15] <kindred> Stock just took a large drop
[13:15] <tied2> hum time to buy?
[13:15] <cmel> Maybe a change of nick to luna would be appropriate
[13:15] <cmel> nah
[13:16] <cmel> wait till rock botto
[13:16] <kindred> ok ok just playin with ya Queen
[13:16] <cmel> m
[13:16] <kindred> you know we love you
[13:16] <QueenVee> :-)
[13:17] <kindred> as if you arent already ridiculed tuanted and tortured enough eh
[13:17] <Shaman464> god, the PS is gunna be confusing, esspaically being STO and trying to keep a low profile
[13:17] <cmel> hhhmmm
[13:18] <QueenVee> i have a thick skin...
[13:18] <Shaman464> well, i gotta run, bye all
[13:18] <cmel> yeah it's hard to keep your #%@& mouth shut :)
[13:18] <kindred> lizard lady
[13:18] <cmel> later
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[13:18] <kindred> toot alou
[13:19] <cmel> what ?
[13:19] <kindred> ?
[13:19] <cmel> ?
[13:19] <tied2> ??
[13:19] <kindred> !
[13:19] <kindred> @
[13:19] <cmel> ???
[13:20] <kindred> #
[13:20] <kindred> ok ok
[13:20] <tied2> &???
[13:20] <cmel> stop
[13:20] <kindred> lol
[13:20] <cmel> lol
[13:20] <cmel> what does toot alou mean ?
[13:20] <tied2> lol see ya
[13:20] <kindred> bye bye
[13:20] <cmel> later
[13:20] <kindred> lol
[13:21] <cmel> heh
[13:21] <kindred> o brother
[13:21] <kindred> queen must just be shakin her head
[13:21] <tied2> ok who knows a good joke?
[13:21] <cmel> you do
[13:22] * QueenVee is busy working on her website
[13:22] <cmel> joke ? plz
[13:22] <kindred> with all this intelectual convo goin on
[13:22] <cmel> haha
[13:23] <kindred> i needed that laugh
[13:23] <kindred> thanks guys
[13:23] <cmel> hhhmmm
[13:24] <kindred> Cmel of ye of little words
[13:24] <QueenVee> okay, here's one
[13:24] <QueenVee> Why does it take millions of sperm to fertilize one egg?
[13:24] <tied2> ok ok why do they hurricanes after women? cause when they come there wet and wild and when they go they take the house and car with them!
[13:25] <QueenVee> Because none of them will stop and ask for directions.
[13:25] <cmel> hahah
[13:25] <cmel> haha
[13:25] <cmel> lol
[13:25] <kindred> men 1 women 1
[13:25] <cmel> heheh
[13:27] <QueenVee> why does it take 5 men to screw in a lightbulb? one to do the job, and 4 to brag about the screwing to.
[13:27] <kindred> cha ching
[13:27] <cmel> how do you knock out a blonde ?
[13:27] <kindred> women 2
[13:27] <kindred> tell her a knock konock joke
[13:28] <tied2> why do blonds wear panties?
[13:28] <cmel> you sit a a glass table and pull out your "johnson"
[13:28] <tied2> to keep her ankles warm
[13:28] <kindred> cha ching
[13:28] <kindred> men 2
[13:28] <QueenVee> what do you do if your husband is writhing on the floor in pain? shoot him again.
[13:28] <kindred> men 3
[13:28] <tied2> lol
[13:28] <cmel> lol
[13:28] <kindred> women 3
[13:29] <kindred> tied 3 all
[13:29] <cmel> thats was good QV
[13:29] <QueenVee> okay, i'm done, going for coffee
[13:29] <kindred> yeah good one
[13:29] <tied2> why do blonds like a tilt steering wheel?
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[13:29] <tied2> more head room
[13:29] <cmel> hah
[13:29] <kindred> yeah I have a crown and coke with my name on it
[13:29] <tied2> I'm sucking on a beer
[13:30] <cmel> good for you
[13:30] <kindred> oh beer....phew
[13:30] <cmel> :=)
[13:30] <kindred> glad you clarified that
[13:31] <kindred> ok children must go and desober myself tonight
[13:31] <cmel> you can desober yourself right here :)
[13:31] <tied2> what do a Texas twister and a Tennessee devoice have in common?
[13:31] <cmel> dunno
[13:31] <tied2> someone is going to loose a trailer
[13:32] <cmel> heh
[13:32] <kindred> good piont but need social interaction on the phisical side
[13:32] <cmel> oh ok
[13:32] <cmel> :)
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[13:32] <kindred> be back later take care all
[13:32] <cmel> maybe I cmell
[13:32] <tied2> too much blood in your alcohol system kindred?
[13:33] <kindred> lol yeah something like that
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[13:33] <cmel> when I joined ppl started dropping out
[13:33] <obaway> hi
[13:33] <cmel> hi
[13:33] <kindred> no you dont smell cmel
[13:33] <cmel> heh
[13:34] <kindred> hey that rymes
[13:34] <cmel> bad timing huh
[13:34] <kindred> poet and didnt know it
[13:34] <cmel> :)
[13:34] <kindred> obe wan is here to keep you company
[13:35] <cmel> whos that ?
[13:35] <kindred> lol
[13:35] <cmel> kenobi ?
[13:35] <kindred> its ok
[13:35] <kindred> never mind
[13:35] <kindred> lol
[13:36] <kindred> cmel you female
[13:36] <cmel> I whish .... rotfl
[13:37] <kindred> you WISH you were female
[13:37] <kindred> so your a male wishing tobe a female?
[13:37] <cmel> then I'd have pussy all the time
[13:37] <kindred> lol
[13:37] <cmel> hhhmm pussy
[13:38] <kindred> so much for poleshift discussion
[13:38] <cmel> sorry
[13:38] <kindred> or is it
[13:38] <kindred> get it
[13:38] <kindred> lol
[13:38] <cmel> heheh
[13:39] <kindred> we must be the only ones finding this interesting cause we the only ones talking
[13:39] <kindred> little minds easy to entertian
[13:39] <cmel> well at least it's 'shift' discussion
[13:39] <cmel> heh
[13:39] <kindred> pole............shift
[13:40] <cmel> damn
[13:40] <kindred> good thing queen is away
[13:40] <cmel> yes
[13:40] <kindred> shed have us by the balls for talking like this on her site
[13:40] <cmel> but she can read up on this
[13:40] <kindred> DOH!
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[13:40] <cmel> bummer
[13:41] <kindred> ok gotta go
[13:41] <cmel> later
[13:41] <kindred> been a luagh cmel
[13:41] <cmel> yes
[13:41] <kindred> chow
[13:41] <cmel> see you
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[14:17] <Shaman464> hi all
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[14:31] <RNTHOMAS> Yawn...
[14:32] <RNTHOMAS> QV: who does the t_t website?
[14:34] <QueenVee> a whole mess of people
[14:34] <QueenVee> not me
[14:36] <RNTHOMAS> I am seeing that...
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[14:41] <QueenVee> hi monk
[14:42] <monk> Hi
[14:43] <QueenVee> this is interesting, though not poleshift related: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2543085.stm
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[14:44] <obany> QueenVee: freezing with sound :)
[14:44] <Shaman464> hi all
[14:46] <QueenVee> obany: perhaps a taste of the kind of technology some will experience with the zetas....
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[14:48] <obany> QueenVee: who know, but i am sure that the Zetas and Hybrids would have even better methods
[14:48] <Shaman464> Hi cmel
[14:50] <QueenVee> i understand that we're so behind in sound technology
[14:50] <monk> yea i agree the zetas would have greater technology
[14:50] <RNTHOMAS> hello obany, are you awake, I would like to have a chat with you...
[14:51] <monk> probaly technology that would seem like "magic" to us
[14:51] <obany> i am kinda :)
[14:51] <obany> i am awake :) ehehhe :)
[14:52] <RNTHOMAS> Ok, could we switch to a private chat.. the window should aleady be open.
[14:56] <monk> no secerts
[15:02] <RNTHOMAS> Sorry monk...
[15:02] <RNTHOMAS> Sometimes it can't be helped...
[15:04] <monk> Its ok I dont care
[15:04] <RNTHOMAS> Coowel... Did you get a copy of that link?
[15:04] <RNTHOMAS> The audio file I tried to send you.. Oh yeah, I think you did... lol
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[15:36] <RNTHOMAS> Yikes... it's quiet in here...
[15:37] <RNTHOMAS> QV what did you think of the MP3 file?
[15:40] <RNTHOMAS> The magnetic pulse article you passed me was also quite interesting...
[15:40] <RNTHOMAS> This ties pretty much in with the Beck Magnetic Pulser... Similar...
[15:41] <RNTHOMAS> I suspect they are pulsing at 7.83 / 7.84 Hz frequency...
[15:44] <RNTHOMAS> It also ties in with on of becks lectures (on tape) of the holographic mind, and the neurogenic fields around the planet..
[15:44] <RNTHOMAS> Make it MP3 not tape.. TTFN...
[15:44] <RNTHOMAS> Gotta run.
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[16:10] <Ogmios> hi
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[16:13] <texas-away> off to eat
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[16:18] <MattJB> hey
[16:18] <MattJB> ok quesion....
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[16:19] <MattJB> has anyone talked about the mathmatical link between a 3,600 year cycleofplanet x and 360 degrees in a circle?
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[16:20] <MattJB> anyone?
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[16:21] <obany> bye
[16:21] <raincity> I don't see how it is relevant?
[16:21] <monk> ?
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[16:22] <MattJB> well ofcourse it is........geometry is the oldest language
[16:22] <MattJB> maybe it's why a circle has 360 degrees
[16:23] <raincity> I doubt the two are related.
[16:23] <raincity> Either way, it won't matter in 6 months.
[16:23] <MattJB> really? even tho pyramids and othermonuments have been proved tobe isolis triangles
[16:24] <MattJB> geometry was incredibily important to our ancestors
[16:24] <raincity> After PX comes, that info will be irrelevant.
[16:24] <MattJB> no it won't.....planet x isn't the end
[16:25] <MattJB> geometry has been relevent from b4 the last shift
[16:26] <MattJB> planet x is good news raincity...not bad
[16:27] <raincity> I never said it was good or bad.
[16:27] <raincity> I just wouldn't concern myself over a coincidence of numbers.
[16:27] <raincity> 3657 does not equal 10x360
[16:28] <MattJB> well in the terms we are speaking it does
[16:28] <monk> 1111
[16:28] <raincity> might as well argue about 365 days in a year while you're at it --because it is coincidence.
[16:29] <QueenVee> sorry, i forgot to mark myself as away
[16:29] <MattJB> well i don't think it is
[16:29] <QueenVee> i'll be right back, gotta reboot
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[16:30] <raincity> She sure does a lot of rebooting.
[16:30] <raincity> Must be using Windows98.
[16:30] <monk> so any of u special ?
[16:30] <raincity> ?
[16:31] <monk> no ?
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[16:31] <monk> dont worry im kinda crazy myself
[16:32] <Shaman464> hi all
[16:32] <monk> hi
[16:32] <Shaman464> i just sunk myself
[16:32] <monk> :(
[16:32] <Shaman464> i tryed to explain the PS to my dad
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[16:33] <monk> what did he say
[16:33] <Shaman464> he said you shouldnt worry because even if it does come we all have to die sometime
[16:34] <monk> thats so true
[16:34] <raincity> hopefully later, rather than sooner...
[16:34] <Shaman464> what does AFK stand for?
[16:34] <monk> did u tell him about the alien parT?
[16:35] <monk> away from keyboard
[16:35] <raincity> I live in a semi-rural environment, so I've decided to prepare.
[16:35] <Shaman464> im walking 150 miles to a safe area
[16:36] <Shaman464> better start now, lol
[16:36] <monk> would only take a week to make it
[16:36] <Shaman464> but, i kinda told him about the aliens
[16:37] <Shaman464> im leaveing 3 weeks before with a group, we are getting supplys on the way
[16:37] <monk> with your friends?
[16:37] <Shaman464> yes
[16:37] <raincity> Might be marshall law by then.
[16:37] <MattJB> 3 weeks shops will be empty dude
[16:37] <MattJB> big red light in the sky
[16:37] <monk> u should goto wyoming with me
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[16:38] <Shaman464> thats when im gunna arrive to my safe area i ment 6 weeks before the shift im leaving
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[16:39] <Shaman464> im trying to get 4-8 people to come with me
[16:39] <MattJB> hmmmmm well as soon as it is visible with the naked eye it's gonna be a madhouse
[16:39] <monk> what state are u gonna be in before the shift ?
[16:39] <Shaman464> no denial
[16:39] <MattJB> and marshall law i reckon 4 weeks b4 shift
[16:39] <monk> everyone will think its a comet
[16:39] <Shaman464> Michigan before and after, im just going north
[16:39] <QueenVee> no, that's not the point at which it will be a madhouse
[16:39] <QueenVee> they'll explain that away
[16:39] <MattJB> they'll try yeah
[16:39] <Shaman464> 6 weeks
[16:39] <QueenVee> it's when the earth's rotation stops that it'll get crazy
[16:40] <raincity> Best to leave as soon as it is AT ALL visible with the naked eye.
[16:40] <MattJB> queen by that point it will be huge in the sky
[16:40] <Shaman464> im leaveing 6 weeks priorr to the shift
[16:40] <MattJB> it will be crazy b4 that
[16:40] <Shaman464> thats the week after it first become visable
[16:40] <raincity> By the time the populace realizes it is not some distant comet...you will be at your location.
[16:40] <Shaman464> yeap
[16:41] <Shaman464> and have my trench dug
[16:41] <raincity> Have the location well scouted already.
[16:41] <Shaman464> pretty well
[16:41] <raincity> Maybe even marked, so you can just park, unload and start digging.
[16:42] <Shaman464> but im going back to the city i leave after (actually just outside) and try to help
[16:42] <monk> shaman: thats nice of you but I wouldn't suggest it
[16:42] <raincity> You might find it easier to dig a hole, and hide your supplies now. So, they'll be waiting for you when you leave.
[16:43] <Shaman464> you see, i have no car
[16:43] <raincity> That would also allow you to pickup more people.
[16:43] <QueenVee> Shaman: there will be so many to help between where you are and the city that you'll never get there
[16:43] <raincity> I agree --don't go back.
[16:43] <Shaman464> maybe i should scarp that part of the plan
[16:43] <Shaman464> :(
[16:44] <MattJB> yeah save the good samaritan act for later
[16:44] <MattJB> you'll have plenty of opportunity
[16:44] <raincity> The smart thing to do is not even look back.
[16:44] <Shaman464> maybe
[16:44] <monk> what it says in the bible
[16:44] <monk> leave and dont look back
[16:45] <QueenVee> where does it say that?
[16:45] <monk> gensis I think
[16:45] <Shaman464> when they left soduim and gamrea
[16:45] <Shaman464> i cant spell!!
[16:46] <Shaman464> and his wife was turned into a salt piller
[16:46] <raincity> It would certainly be better for your sanity if you didn't go back and see the damage first hand.
[16:46] <raincity> Just let your imagination take care of it.
[16:46] <Shaman464> true and the radtion maybe bad
[16:47] <Shaman464> radation*
[16:47] <raincity> People have a habit of being petrified by fear.
[16:47] <raincity> And unable to function afterwards.
[16:47] <raincity> Don't go back.
[16:48] <Shaman464> i still want to help others who dont have it as good as i will being somewhat prepared and all
[16:48] <QueenVee> how will you do that Shaman?
[16:48] <MattJB> you'll have the rest of your life to help
[16:48] <QueenVee> will you have food to give them?
[16:49] <Shaman464> i have some medical training form my voloenteering
[16:49] <MattJB> what percentage of world population do you think would survive if everyone new the truth?
[16:49] <raincity> The first person you come across that you CAN'T help, will have a lasting psychological trauma upon you.
[16:49] <Shaman464> 30%-40%
[16:49] <QueenVee> Matt: the same percentage
[16:50] <Shaman464> oh really?
[16:50] <monk> it doesnt matter if u know about it or not
[16:50] <QueenVee> not enough places for people to go
[16:50] <monk> if your meant to survive you are
[16:50] <Shaman464> id thought alot would die because of like NYC and LA
[16:50] <MattJB> i don't believe that queen
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[16:50] <QueenVee> well, it's irrelevant; people won't know
[16:50] <Shaman464> the coastal citys
[16:50] <Shaman464> truw
[16:50] <MattJB> there are huge unpopulated 'safe' areas in the world
[16:50] <Shaman464> true*
[16:51] <Shaman464> its only 10%
[16:51] <MattJB> eastern australia will be relatively ok and it is empty
[16:51] <Shaman464> and nothing will change that
[16:52] <MattJB> yeah well would be nice for ppl to have a chance
[16:52] <monk> they will have a chance in the next life
[16:53] <Shaman464> i guess ill have worry about myself for a time
[16:53] <MattJB> hmmmmm
[16:53] <QueenVee> Matt: everyone has decided for themselves whether they will survive. no one who dies will die simply because they didn't know.
[16:54] <QueenVee> those who die have chosen to pass on and incarnate into another life
[16:54] <MattJB> sorry that's cryptic rubbish
[16:54] <QueenVee> Matt: no, that's zetatalk
[16:54] <monk> everyone knows about the poleshift already
[16:54] <QueenVee> we have all made pre-birth decisions about how to play out this drama; all are unconsciously aware
[16:54] <Shaman464> if i have chosen in the concious part of my brain to surive will i?
[16:55] <QueenVee> not if it's contrary to what your soul has decided
[16:56] <Shaman464> i have a feeling that i will, should i turst it (to word it better)
[16:56] <QueenVee> do you have any choice?
[16:56] <MattJB> yeah well right now we live in a concious world
[16:56] <QueenVee> yes, and?
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[16:56] <MattJB> ppl deserve the chance to make a concious decsion
[16:56] <monk> sure you already made one :)
[16:56] <raincity> I live near a coastal city, and volcanos, but am sure I can make it into Canada without much trouble.
[16:57] <Shaman464> then everyone would live
[16:57] <MattJB> and if it is wrong to spread that message then nancy shouldn't be on national radio queen
[16:57] <QueenVee> everyone DOES have the chance to make a conscious decision
[16:57] <MattJB> not if they are not informed
[16:58] <QueenVee> they are informed subconsciously
[16:58] <Shaman464> thats when they make the subconicus choice
[16:58] <QueenVee> and they can subconsciously decide to be consciously aware or not
[16:58] <MattJB> nancy said directly on the art show
[16:58] <MattJB> she wanted to tel ppl what the government wouldn'y
[16:58] <Shaman464> 600,000,000 will live
[16:58] <QueenVee> that's what Nancy wants to do; that's not how zetas explain it
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[16:59] <QueenVee> zetas have said that most have made the decision to NOT be consciously aware, for their own reasons....
[16:59] <monk> well if someone didn't tell us we wouldn't be consciously aware of it
[16:59] <QueenVee> because they have already made the unconscious decision to die....
[16:59] <Shaman464> Nancy doesnt want anyone to die, she even said that she was broken up because of it
[16:59] <QueenVee> because they don't want it to interfere with their life in the meantime....
[17:00] <QueenVee> Again, Nancy and the zetas are not the same entities
[17:00] <Shaman464> yeap
[17:00] <MattJB> yeah well......
[17:00] <QueenVee> the real purpose of zetatalk is to assist those who have made the decision to be consciously aware and prepare
[17:01] <QueenVee> for those who have made the decision to be unaware, there is nothing that you could tell them that would convince them
[17:01] <Shaman464> can your subconnicus tell your conicus what its chiuce was?
[17:01] <QueenVee> theoretically, though meditation, etc.
[17:01] <Shaman464> choie*
[17:01] <MattJB> um i tell you what would convince tehm
[17:01] <MattJB> a press conference from nasa and the white house
[17:01] <Shaman464> nope
[17:01] <MattJB> endof story
[17:01] <monk> dreams your subconious and conscious communicate
[17:02] <QueenVee> well, that's along the same probability lines as God descending from the heavens and telling them
[17:02] <Shaman464> people dont even believe that the moon landing happened
[17:02] <monk> I sure wouldn't believe our government
[17:02] <MattJB> thats cos the pics are faked
[17:02] <MattJB> we landed on the moon
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[17:02] <QueenVee> and what would happen if nasa and the white house did that? are they going to be able to save everyone? how will they decide who gets saved and who doesn't?
[17:03] <MattJB> anyway...lunch time
[17:03] <MattJB> later
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[17:03] <raincity> If a government spokesperson came on tonight and annonced the coming of PX --nobody would believe it.
[17:04] <raincity> It wouldn't do any good.
[17:04] <QueenVee> yeah, people would think it was yet another "the sky is falling" warning from the department of homeland security
[17:04] <raincity> Or the prelude to a US coupe.
[17:04] <QueenVee> an excuse to limit people's movements and freedoms
[17:05] <Shaman464> its easier the way its going
[17:06] <Shaman464> some people want to help by incarating in hyberds
[17:07] <monk> Thats a good question ... what would you rather do survive and stay as human form , reincarnate as a hybrid , or do something else
[17:07] <Shaman464> it was a statement
[17:08] <raincity> Since I'm already human I prefer to live out the remainder of my time as human...then worry about it.
[17:08] <QueenVee> being a survivor is the hardest role; much easier to be reincarnated back on earth later
[17:08] <raincity> Too much time invested already.
[17:08] <Shaman464> you cant make that choice to stay, thats up to your soul
[17:08] <raincity> I can do more good in the here and now.
[17:08] <Shaman464> beside those investments will be gone
[17:09] <raincity> Only after death.
[17:09] <QueenVee> not true, shaman
[17:09] <QueenVee> he will still have his human skills
[17:09] <raincity> By "investments", I mean knowledge and physical health.
[17:09] <QueenVee> the character and abilities he has developed in this life
[17:09] <QueenVee> yes, and health
[17:09] <raincity> exactly.
[17:09] <Shaman464> o, i thought you meant materal goods
[17:10] <QueenVee> i feel the same; this life has given me the opportunity to develop skills that could be very valuable in the aftertime, and it seems nutty not to have the opportunity to use them for good in the aftertime.....
[17:11] <raincity> right
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[17:12] <QueenVee> in many ways, i feel like i've been "in training" for this my whole life
[17:13] <raincity> I think a lot of us feel this way. That is why the ZetaTalk message resonates with us so well.
[17:13] <QueenVee> yes
[17:14] <Shaman464> ive not lived aslong, but i have skills that will be need
[17:14] <Shaman464> needed*
[17:17] <Shaman464> then again, youth has its own adventages.........
[17:18] <raincity> ...right, like faster healing and stronger immune system.
[17:19] <Shaman464> ive found about 4 billion people on earth that will have no chance during the pole shift
[17:20] <QueenVee> ZetaTalk says the children will lead the adults in many ways
[17:20] <Shaman464> china, india, coastal citys
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[17:21] <QueenVee> yeah, that's right shaman
[17:21] <QueenVee> hello rn
[17:21] <rnthomas> howdy...
[17:21] <Shaman464> hello
[17:22] <rnthomas> Just thought I'd see how things are goin..
[17:22] <QueenVee> they're going fine
[17:24] <raincity> oh, bad news. The Feds denied United Airlines loan guarentee.
[17:24] <raincity> So, it looks like another massive bankruptcy filing.
[17:24] <raincity> real soon.
[17:24] <QueenVee> oy
[17:24] <rnthomas> Feds can't afford another loan..
[17:25] <raincity> The stock is 55% employee owned...so after it becomes virtually worthless overnight, all those retirement funds will be gone.
[17:25] <rnthomas> Stock markets gotta crash just before Px arrives...
[17:25] <raincity> probably gone tommorrow when the market opens.
[17:26] <QueenVee> yes, some pretty tumultuous times to come
[17:26] <raincity> It appears to be a slow deflation rather than an abrupt crash...so far.
[17:26] <rnthomas> We need that in order to be focusing on our lost money when Px gets here...
[17:26] <QueenVee> the corporations can't keep hiding the reality of the economy forever
[17:27] <rnthomas> Exactly..
[17:27] <raincity> Well, there are definitely more big layoffs to come.
[17:27] <rnthomas> And Babylon will fall in a 24 hour period..
[17:28] <Shaman464> was that a PS?
[17:28] <rnthomas> This is the build up to that..
[17:28] <monk> what money i got 10%
[17:28] <monk> $
[17:28] <rnthomas> Px = Planet x
[17:29] <Shaman464> whos that direct to?
[17:29] <raincity> These times remind me of ancient Rome. As the Republic became the Empire/Dictatorship...and then the collapse.
[17:29] <rnthomas> rain: take your pick.
[17:30] <Shaman464> bye all
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[17:30] <QueenVee> except the Empire/Dictatorship flourished and lasted a long time before the collapse
[17:30] <raincity> true...I don't think we have that long.
[17:30] <raincity> not at all.
[17:31] <QueenVee> the first emperor/dictator was Julius Caesar....
[17:31] <raincity> Even without PX we probably only have a dozen or so years before the complete collapse of the US system.
[17:31] <rnthomas> When the stocks crash, do you think anyone's gonna care about Mars comming really close.
[17:31] <QueenVee> yes, as ZT says, people will be highly distracted by other things
[17:31] <rnthomas> Bankers call their loans in next year...
[17:32] <rnthomas> That is what people will be distracted by...
[17:32] <raincity> rnthomas: any specifics on this?
[17:33] <rnthomas> It was a remote viewer on the Art Bell show.. Works for the army..
[17:33] <rnthomas> Well, take it back a little further... CopvCIA...
[17:34] <rnthomas> 911 was to keep economy going as the crash was about to happen too soon.
[17:34] <Ogmios> i'm sleepy..going ..good night!
[17:34] <rnthomas> Remote Viewer - Says the US falls in 1 day. Not by war, but by Stock Market crash...
[17:34] <QueenVee> what remote viewer?
[17:34] <raincity> Sounds like Ed Dames.
[17:35] <QueenVee> i don't know of any remote viewer with any kind of a track record
[17:35] <rnthomas> Remote Viewer - Ed Dames... Also talked about the living conditions afterwards...
[17:35] <QueenVee> certainly not Ed Dames or Morton
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[17:35] <QueenVee> what has Dames predicted that has ever come about?
[17:35] <QueenVee> or Morton?
[17:35] <raincity> I can't think of anything.
[17:35] <QueenVee> exactly
[17:35] <raincity> But, it was highly entertaining!
[17:36] <QueenVee> right
[17:36] <rnthomas> QV: who out there does have a track record, just for my info...
[17:36] <QueenVee> as a remote viewer?
[17:36] <rnthomas> Or is it on the website somewhere...
[17:37] <rnthomas> No preference...
[17:37] <QueenVee> zetatalk
[17:37] <rnthomas> OK, that's one.. any others?
[17:37] <QueenVee> dunno
[17:37] <rnthomas> The Bible?
[17:37] <rnthomas> Sitchin?
[17:38] <QueenVee> Jean Dixon was pretty good
[17:38] <QueenVee> Sylvia Browne is awful
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[17:40] <rnthomas> What about mr Ruppert of www.copvcia.com
[17:43] <rnthomas> He doesn't make predictions.. He just shows the reasons behind 911...
[17:44] <rnthomas> As I understand it, the Bible also talks of Babylon falling as well... And everyone morning it's loss..
[17:44] <rnthomas> Babylon could be the US... Babylon being the strongest country...
[17:45] <QueenVee> RN: so if he doesn't make predicdtions, why dod you mention him?
[17:46] <rnthomas> Because I am taking information from various places, and putting it together to define what I believe is gonna happen...
[17:46] <rnthomas> But I am asking if his information is reasonable... Myself I believe it, but was wondering what you think...
[17:47] <rnthomas> Sitchin doesn't make predictions either, he just reads ancient books..
[17:48] <rnthomas> So I guess I am asking who are reliable sources of information who's not.. This would help me greatly to understand what's garbage vs what's not...
[17:49] <rnthomas> Ruppert describes what really happened during 911 and shows what the CIA really is/does...
[17:50] <rnthomas> So for me, even without the remote viewer, combining bible, copvcia and sitchin paints me a picture of a weakend economy...
[17:51] <rnthomas> Illuminatti being illuminatti, and not telling people what's going on, tells me that they are gonna try to distract people.
[17:51] <rnthomas> How do you do that? You crash the economy of the US...
[17:52] <QueenVee> well, as you say, you have to take information from a wide variety of sources and then evaluate what makes sense
[17:52] <rnthomas> And this is a 'postulation' or 'best guess' on my part.
[17:52] <QueenVee> personally, i look for correlations between those materials....
[17:52] <QueenVee> and sources
[17:52] <rnthomas> It's also a large part, my intuition as well..
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[17:53] <rnthomas> I cannot prove it, but in my warped minds eye it makes sence...
[17:54] <QueenVee> hello paen
[17:54] <QueenVee> er, pen
[17:54] <rnthomas> The reason why I put Ed Dame, is cuz he's the only one that has said it.. Hey pen.
[17:55] <pen> hi
[17:55] <QueenVee> said what
[17:55] <QueenVee> pen: not seen you here before, what brings you to this room?
[17:55] <pen> ive been in here before, once :|
[17:55] <QueenVee> where do youlive?
[17:55] <pen> ga
[17:56] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[17:56] <rnthomas> QV: btw, thanks for the Jean Dixon name as well. :)
[17:57] <pen> ive been aware of the theory for perhaps 2 weeks
[17:57] <QueenVee> ah, i see
[17:58] <rnthomas> pen: what's your thoughts...
[17:59] <QueenVee> RN: contrary to what most people think, there really haven't been very many "psychics" who have an accurate track record vis a vis predictions; even with very good and legitimate psychics, the future is very hard to predict, as there is so much variability involved...
[17:59] <QueenVee> the best a psychic can do is talk about probabilities
[17:59] <pen> my thoughts are that this theory is just as valid as the theory of the small cult who believed there was a meteor trailing that asteroid
[17:59] <pen> but im not here to argue
[17:59] <pen> im here to observe
[18:00] <pen> meteor trailing asteroid?
[18:00] <pen> i meant UFO :\
[18:00] <QueenVee> why do you want to observe here?
[18:00] <pen> I don't know
[18:00] <QueenVee> mmmm
[18:01] <QueenVee> well, we don't really need observers so.....
[18:01] <QueenVee> i'll politely ask you to find some other room to hang out in
[18:01] <pen> look, im not here to scepticise on this theory
[18:01] <pen> oh i have plenty of rooms to hang out in
[18:01] <QueenVee> well, please go there
[18:01] <QueenVee> now
[18:01] <pen> wait
[18:01] <pen> im a slow typer
[18:01] <pen> let me get this thought out
[18:02] <pen> so, you wan't me to leave just because I may not agree with the poleshift, but am interested?
[18:02] <QueenVee> this is a chat room for people who take the poleshift seriously, and are preparing for it; not those who are just "curious".
[18:02] <rnthomas> There's an entire website that you can read about the poleshift.. www.zetatalk.com
[18:02] <QueenVee> if you are curious about the subject, read www.zetatalk.com....
[18:03] <pen> i've looked at that site
[18:03] <pen> i know what it is
[18:03] <pen> but you can't really see what peoples ideas are in real time
[18:03] <QueenVee> if it persuades you to become serious about the poleshift and to prepare, then come back here
[18:03] <QueenVee> if it doesn't, then don't come back here
[18:03] <QueenVee> capiche?
[18:03] <pen> I doubt I will ever take this seriously, as I believe that the "end of the world" will be caused by God's armageddon
[18:03] <pen> So i suppose I will leave if i must
[18:04] <QueenVee> yes, you must
[18:04] <pen> so, goodbye
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[18:04] <QueenVee> lord
[18:04] <raincityAFK> He should have gone to #troubled_times.
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[18:05] <rnthomas> That's a good suggestion...
[18:05] <rnthomas> Assuming that's what that channel is for.
[18:06] <raincity> Did anyone see that ridiculis site with the koolaid logo?
[18:06] <rnthomas> Dumb question of the night: what does AFK stand for?
[18:06] <rnthomas> Yup...
[18:06] <raincity> away from keyboard.
[18:06] <raincity> ...took me awhile to figure it out too.
[18:07] <rnthomas> OK, thanks...
[18:07] <raincity> That site with the logo seems obsessed with making fun of the pole-shift.
[18:07] <raincity> A bit too obsessed to be credible.
[18:08] <rnthomas> But quite a few people will fall for it.
[18:08] <QueenVee> what site with the logo?
[18:09] <raincity> Can't remember the url.
[18:09] <raincity> It was anti-zetatalk.
[18:09] <rnthomas> zetatalk.org
[18:09] <QueenVee> oh yea, sapphire's site
[18:09] <raincity> that's it.
[18:09] <raincity> Who is sapphire.
[18:10] <QueenVee> a guy named Mike Vega who's obssessed with debunking nancy and zetatalk
[18:10] <QueenVee> really strange guy
[18:10] <raincity> I show only hotmail address.
[18:10] <QueenVee> he hung out constantly in #troubled_times until just the last few days, when he finally got kicked and banned
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[18:11] <QueenVee> hey Bob
[18:12] <BobS> hello Queen
[18:12] <rnthomas> Howdy Bob!
[18:12] <BobS> how is everyone this evening?
[18:12] <QueenVee> i'm good, yourself?
[18:12] <BobS> Howdy rnthomas
[18:12] <rnthomas> Neck pains..
[18:12] <BobS> doing okay thanks
[18:12] <BobS> neck..ouch
[18:13] <BobS> So just looking at Swiss earthquake site...4 straight days now of 6+ earthquakes
[18:13] <BobS> 5+ is just commonplace
[18:13] <rnthomas> Can't turn my neck.. Yikes, that's alot of shaking...
[18:14] <BobS> Queen did you get my location Q on Yellowknife?
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[18:14] <QueenVee> Bob: yes, i did. and i'll put it on the agenda
[18:14] <BobS> I did some more looking there...appears to be surrounded by large lakes...not good
[18:15] <BobS> thanks
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[18:15] <BobS> heh
[18:15] <QueenVee> hehe
[18:15] <BobS> one call that must be answered...
[18:15] <QueenVee> Bob: how large are the lakes?
[18:16] <QueenVee> larger than the Great Lakes?
[18:16] <BobS> I'm not sure...no not that big
[18:16] <QueenVee> are you coming back after your "break"?
[18:17] <BobS> Went to the National Geographic mapping site...very cool site
[18:17] <QueenVee> yes, excellent site
[18:17] <BobS> break? me?
[18:17] <QueenVee> nature call?
[18:17] <QueenVee> lol
[18:17] <QueenVee> that was RN
[18:17] <BobS> oh rnthomas
[18:17] <QueenVee> hahahaha
[18:17] <BobS> hehe
[18:18] <BobS> been checking out parts of the globe on that site...gives a pretty good feel for what's in the area
[18:19] <BobS> helps for asking z's more specific topography questions
[18:19] <QueenVee> do you have a link for the Yellowknife area?
[18:19] <BobS> yes...one you gave me
[18:19] <BobS> :-)
[18:19] <QueenVee> no, i mean at the National Geographic site
[18:19] <BobS> I'll search...brb
[18:21] <BobS> http://plasma.nationalgeographic.com/mapmachine/index.html?id=362&size=medium&left=-114.42&bottom=62.38&right=-114.27&top=62.53&point=-114.35,62.45&text=Yellowknife
[18:22] <BobS> wow...long url
[18:22] <BobS> Very good map though
[18:23] <BobS> You can zoom out to get a lay of land farther away, etc
[18:23] <QueenVee> you don't have an elevation map of that area, do you?
[18:23] <QueenVee> here's the confusion:
[18:24] <QueenVee> ZT on the NWT talks about the eastern area and western areas of the territory.....
[18:24] <QueenVee> and about the "highlands" in the west and south of the territory....
[18:25] <QueenVee> but it's not clear whether it's talking about the current NWT..... or the much larger NWT territory prior to the creation of Nunavut
[18:25] <QueenVee> if it's the current NWT, then Yellowknife will be flooded
[18:26] <QueenVee> if the old NWT, yellowknife may qualify as the western portion of the area
[18:26] <QueenVee> (although just barely)
[18:26] <QueenVee> so i want to see the elevations in NWT and Nunavut
[18:26] <BobS> I see...confusing yes. I just have the topography map, and it looks like a flooding area
[18:27] <QueenVee> topography = elevation
[18:27] <BobS> well yes...it doesn't give numbers, just visual
[18:28] <BobS> it appears about 200 miles west would be much higher up...but in the mts...and don't know if that's in volcano ash path
[18:29] <QueenVee> what's the name of that lake that Yellowknife sits on?
[18:30] <BobS> mmmm...dunno...will go look
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[18:35] <BobS> Great Slave Lake
[18:36] <BobS> brb
[18:37] <Shaman464> i need some help
[18:37] <QueenVee> what's the matter?
[18:38] <Shaman464> a guy who is in my group is thinking about pulling out so he can stay behind in a city and help, hes coming in this chat
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[18:38] <Shaman464> his name is TomB
[18:39] <monk> ok
[18:39] <RNTHOMAS> Why is this bad?
[18:39] <Shaman464> long story
[18:39] * QueenVee sets mode: +b *!*@h-69-3-198-111.NYCMNY83.covad.net
[18:39] * Mr_Odd was kicked by QueenVee (Mr_Odd)
[18:39] <RNTHOMAS> He does have free will... And besides at the time of the shift he may be helped..
[18:40] <QueenVee> so what kind of help do you need?
[18:40] <Shaman464> i mean hes coming with me to a rual area and then going back to the city
[18:40] <monk> or he may die
[18:40] <Shaman464> just tell him what you told me early
[18:40] <RNTHOMAS> But the big question is how can he help.. OK, I'll attempt to shut up now... :)
[18:41] <RNTHOMAS> But it's almost impossible for that to happen.. lol
[18:42] <QueenVee> Shaman: why are you worrying about that right now?
[18:42] <monk> will he bring food to peopl ??
[18:43] <QueenVee> it will be physically impossible for him to do that at the time
[18:43] <Shaman464> no he is torn between the two chioces
[18:43] <QueenVee> why are you so intent on controlling other people's decisions and actions?
[18:43] <QueenVee> all you can do is give him your opinion
[18:43] <Shaman464> he wants some opioins on this desiscon hes making
[18:44] <Shaman464> and, i think you guys are the most knowlegdeable
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[18:44] * Looking up TomB user info...
[18:45] <QueenVee> hello TomB
[18:45] <monk> Hola Tom
[18:45] <TomB> hi everyone
[18:45] <raincity> hi
[18:45] <QueenVee> BobS: any luck on finding an elevation map for NWT?
[18:46] <monk> Hows it going tom
[18:46] <QueenVee> I can't find an online elevation map for Canada....
[18:47] <TomB> not bad
[18:47] <TomB> u?
[18:48] <monk> im doing fine
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[18:50] <MattJB> all quiet on the western front
[18:51] <QueenVee> wb matt
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[18:51] <QueenVee> hello Gay
[18:51] <Shaman464> tom, what is your choices?
[18:51] * Looking up Gay user info...
[18:51] <Gay> hello
[18:51] <raincity> hey
[18:51] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room?
[18:52] <Gay> are any of you watching that new spielburge show on sci-fi calle Taken?
[18:52] <TomB> what do you mean
[18:52] <raincity> yes.
[18:52] <monk> yea im watching it its a great show
[18:52] <Gay> i just changed and the channels on the t.v. and such and there it was.
[18:53] <raincity> All the week's episodes will run on Sunday, in case you miss one.
[18:53] <Gay> whoa
[18:53] <Gay> i did miss a couple
[18:53] <MattJB> not out here yet
[18:53] <MattJB> :(
[18:53] <Gay> it just started Dec 2, right?
[18:53] <raincity> right
[18:53] <raincity> There have been 2 episodes thus far.
[18:54] <raincity> A new one on tonight.
[18:54] <Gay> so i missed the beginning...?
[18:54] <Gay> what was it about, if you saw it?
[18:54] <raincity> Roswell crash...
[18:54] <Gay> figured
[18:54] <Gay> LoL
[18:55] <QueenVee> Gay: what brings you to this room?
[18:55] <raincity> It will be replayed on sunday.
[18:55] <Gay> hold on, i will be back, i have to change my SN.
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[18:56] <QueenVee> hello darrylman
[18:56] <darrylman> hello QV
[18:56] <darrylman> how are we today?
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[18:57] <GayFDoe> Back
[18:57] <GayFDoe> okay, why am i here?
[18:57] <QueenVee> yeah, more or les
[18:58] <GayFDoe> well about 3 years ago i found out about ZetaTalk from a friend. i was very interested because I thought I was something either more than human or a human of great gifts/-abilities.
[18:58] <MattJB> and what gifts would they be?
[18:58] <GayFDoe> i read about ZetaTalk on and off in the past. but more so for the past 3 days.
[18:59] <QueenVee> so what's your impression of the whole thing?
[18:59] <GayFDoe> i have recieved so many signs in my life about the truth of who i am. and today... i also even recieved several different signs as well.
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[19:00] <MattJB> queen that sounded like a question for someone to state an opinion on zetatalk......
[19:00] <QueenVee> Matt: yes, it was
[19:00] <QueenVee> ?
[19:00] <GayFDoe> i don't really know what to believe...
[19:00] <MattJB> well believing is a pre requisite for being here
[19:00] <QueenVee> Matt: no, it isn't
[19:00] <GayFDoe> i know there is life in the universe more than just Earth.
[19:01] <MattJB> i refer you to the topic of the room which youprobably set yourself
[19:01] <QueenVee> Matt: where do you see the word believe there?
[19:01] <GayFDoe> I vaguely know I am someone who holds gifts/-powers, whatever one may call it.
[19:01] <Shaman464> you dont have to believe you just cant argue about it
[19:02] <QueenVee> okay, Gay, so this is all about your quest for self-discovery
[19:02] <GayFDoe> i argue about it with myself.
[19:02] <GayFDoe> sometimes with others
[19:02] <GayFDoe> but you know how others are
[19:02] <GayFDoe> they point, laugh, and ridicule
[19:02] <QueenVee> quite apart from your gifts and powers -- what are your views on the May2003 poleshift -- which is the subject of this room?
[19:02] <Shaman464> my teacher today did that, because i have the book with me
[19:02] <MattJB> what book?
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[19:03] <Shaman464> Zeta talk
[19:03] <GayFDoe> i requested the book to be put in my school library
[19:03] <Shaman464> how old are you?
[19:03] <GayFDoe> me... I am 18 years of age. or atleast i think I am.
[19:04] <darrylman> love dial up---->
[19:04] <Shaman464> still the youngest!
[19:04] <GayFDoe> so, how old are you then?
[19:04] <Shaman464> 16
[19:04] <QueenVee> so, Gay, how seriously do you take the poleshift?
[19:04] <GayFDoe> ha ha
[19:04] <GayFDoe> ok
[19:04] * MattJB is 27
[19:04] <GayFDoe> 27
[19:05] <GayFDoe> that is the number i see and experience with my signs most of the time
[19:05] <GayFDoe> i have been getting so many signs lately...
[19:05] <MattJB> gay why doyou never answer the question?
[19:05] <GayFDoe> anyway, back to your question QueenVee
[19:05] <MattJB> politician in the making?
[19:05] <darrylman> :)
[19:05] <GayFDoe> i take it quite seriously
[19:06] <GayFDoe> it will happen
[19:06] <monk> gay: ever see 11:11 ?
[19:06] <GayFDoe> i know that
[19:06] <GayFDoe> yes
[19:06] <GayFDoe> today i did
[19:06] <QueenVee> Gay: what are you doing to prepare?
[19:06] <GayFDoe> well remember the date 5/5/99?
[19:06] <Shaman464> me and tom are going to move out for a while
[19:07] <GayFDoe> or i think it was the year 2000, either way, i am asking you any of you remember that particular date?
[19:07] <GayFDoe> that was the date where the planets were supposed to align and some cataclysmic events were supposed to happen.
[19:07] <GayFDoe> it never happened.
[19:07] <monk> I dont remember
[19:07] <darrylman> cinco de mayo/
[19:07] <darrylman> ?
[19:08] <monk> hey gay do u see 11:11 alot ?
[19:08] <GayFDoe> yeah
[19:08] <GayFDoe> a lot
[19:08] <GayFDoe> today i had a bowling game
[19:08] <GayFDoe> and bowled a 111
[19:08] <GayFDoe> if it went up to 11:11, i am sure it would have
[19:08] <QueenVee> Gay: what are you doing to prepare for the poleshift?
[19:09] <GayFDoe> i am preparing my mind and body so if anything were to happen, i would be ready.
[19:09] <GayFDoe> by how i am preparing myself with my mind and body is just by being me.
[19:09] <QueenVee> that much
[19:09] <Shaman464> any food or water supplys
[19:09] <GayFDoe> i haven't gone to the extent with any food or water supplies
[19:09] <GayFDoe> not yet anyway
[19:09] <monk> seems like alot of people are having signs with numbers especially 11:11
[19:10] <GayFDoe> i will get prophetic dreams about what i should do or not, but for now i am just trying to get some things straigtened out.
[19:10] <Shaman464> my watch is stoped a 11:34
[19:10] <GayFDoe> well
[19:10] <darrylman> funny monk, i really see 12;34 a lot
[19:10] <GayFDoe> 27 is considered my lucky number or whatever one may call it
[19:10] <GayFDoe> 2/7/96 is the day i believe i was merged and or contacted by some sort of alien race.
[19:11] <QueenVee> monk and Gay: will you please take your discussion of numbers elsewhere. it has nothing to do with the topic in this channel.
[19:11] <GayFDoe> so 27 happens to be the number that almost seems like it is following me in weird/sign-like ways.
[19:11] <GayFDoe> sorry
[19:11] <darrylman> QV i put my home on the market...
[19:11] <GayFDoe> i actually want to talk about Poleshift
[19:11] <QueenVee> perhaps you would like to discuss your common interest on a private channel
[19:11] <monk> Im sorry but I believe it does according to the zetas there is an awakening happening and were evolving into the 4th density
[19:12] <monk> but i wont talk about it
[19:12] <GayFDoe> ummm what is supposed to happen because in result of the Poleshift?
[19:13] <MattJB> thats hardly a well defined question
[19:13] <monk> well zetas say we were going into the 4th density soon
[19:13] <monk> in the next 100 years
[19:14] <darrylman> phone call,, i will return........
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[19:14] <GayFDoe> i am not very familiar with all of these terms.
[19:15] <monk> sorta like 3rd diminsion I think
[19:15] <monk> 4th diminsion
[19:15] <GayFDoe> what is 4th density, can someone explain it better for me?
[19:15] <GayFDoe> ohhh ok
[19:15] <GayFDoe> makes sense
[19:15] <QueenVee> Gay: sounds like you're not very familiar with the www.zetatalk.com site
[19:15] <GayFDoe> oh
[19:16] <GayFDoe> i have been doing all i can to research information on zetatalk.com
[19:16] <MattJB> hmmmm
[19:16] <GayFDoe> its just that my vocabulary level isn't as advanced as it should be.
[19:16] <QueenVee> Gay: This is a chat room for those already familiar with the basic information on zetatalk; maybe you want to come back when you have actually read it....
[19:16] <GayFDoe> i read a lot of it, i just want to observe and get myself somewhat involved with the discussions going on no matter what.
[19:17] <monk> If anyone here is intrested in talking about spiritual stuff and other stuff I made a channel #god
[19:17] <QueenVee> maybe you'd like to visit monk's channel -- it sounds a little more along your interests
[19:18] <GayFDoe> do you have something against me QueenVee?
[19:18] <QueenVee> Gay: you can't get involved in the discussions if you don't know the basic information
[19:18] <GayFDoe> sorry, i was just wondering.
[19:18] <MattJB> ok gay when was the last shift?
[19:18] <QueenVee> the rest of us will just end up spending all of our time explaining things to you
[19:18] <QueenVee> and that's not how we want to spend our time
[19:19] <GayFDoe> so you speak for everyone here or is it just that you wouldn't like to spend your time explaining?
[19:19] <QueenVee> i'm the moderator here
[19:19] <GayFDoe> understandable
[19:19] <MattJB> gay......when was the last pole shift?
[19:19] <GayFDoe> i will go
[19:19] <GayFDoe> goodbye
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[19:20] <MattJB> yeah never read it in his life
[19:20] <MattJB> but he didn't need to cos he has 'gifts'
[19:20] <monk> I had a dream last night about a big thing that happened to the earth and me and a few others were the only ones left in the area and we had to survive off the land
[19:21] <QueenVee> monk: yeah, i've been having those dreams too
[19:21] <QueenVee> not sure if they're precognitive, or just my subconscious "rehearsing"....
[19:21] <monk> yea I have one at least once a week
[19:21] <MattJB> hey ha sanyone here witnessed a total solar eclipse
[19:21] <MattJB> ?
[19:22] <QueenVee> in the category of weird weather -- Moscow is having an unusually cold spell that has killed 26 people: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/12/02/1038712883746.html
[19:22] <QueenVee> no, not me Matt
[19:22] <MattJB> total eclipse here last evening
[19:22] <MattJB> i was looking forward to it
[19:22] <QueenVee> 157 suffering from hypothermia
[19:22] <MattJB> when it happened i was terrified...like something was wrong
[19:22] <QueenVee> oh yeah, you're in assieland
[19:22] <QueenVee> ausieland
[19:22] <MattJB> just started crying
[19:22] <QueenVee> australia
[19:23] <QueenVee> really?
[19:23] <QueenVee> wow
[19:23] <MattJB> yeah it was weird
[19:23] <MattJB> cos i've seen one before
[19:23] <MattJB> and no reaction
[19:23] <QueenVee> do you think it made you think of the poleshift?
[19:23] <MattJB> well i know what it meant to the mayans
[19:23] <QueenVee> were you indoors or outdoors
[19:23] <MattJB> and maybe it did
[19:24] <MattJB> outside
[19:24] <QueenVee> what you say makes perfect sense
[19:24] <MattJB> just got so emotional
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[19:25] <MattJB> do you think it was just cos i know whats gonna happen next may?
[19:25] <QueenVee> Matt: it sounds as though you might have tapped into a past-life experience.... or a future-life experience.....
[19:26] <MattJB> really?
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[19:26] <QueenVee> like someone who got trampled by an elephant in a past-life has a fear reaction to an elephant in a zoo, which is irrational
[19:26] <MattJB> but i had no previous reaction
[19:27] <QueenVee> you are not reacting to the current situation, but to a previous one
[19:27] <MattJB> so maybe a future one?
[19:27] <QueenVee> yes, but you didn't know about the poleshift then
[19:27] <MattJB> hmmm
[19:27] <QueenVee> whatever experiences you may have had in the past are going to be closer to the surface because of your current conscious knowledge.....
[19:27] <QueenVee> or it could be you tapping into a future experience
[19:28] <monk> Yea I have read a book about hypnosis and past lives and future lives the guy has hypnotized like 30,000 people and that kinda stuff happens to people alot
[19:28] <MattJB> hmmmmmw will not see another eclipse in this life time
[19:28] <MattJB> sun will be blocked out
[19:29] <monk> there will be 3 days of darkness during the poleshift right ?
[19:29] <QueenVee> yes, but you will see a sky that is dark during the day when it should be lighted by the sun
[19:29] <QueenVee> yes, during the rotation stoppage
[19:29] <QueenVee> won't that be bizarre -- waking up at 7am when the sun should be up, and it being dark....
[19:30] <QueenVee> or the sun never setting
[19:30] <MattJB> hey i spent holidays as a kid in northern scotland when it was still light at 1am
[19:30] <QueenVee> ZT says that Australia will experience the 3 days of darkness....
[19:30] <MattJB> thats weird enough
[19:30] <QueenVee> in North American we will experience three days without night
[19:30] <MattJB> i will be safe in kentucky
[19:30] <QueenVee> stifling heat
[19:31] <Shaman464> im my cause three days off dawn
[19:31] <Shaman464> of*
[19:31] <MattJB> hmmmm need to be somewhere with 3 daqys of happy hour ;)
[19:31] <Shaman464> everyone who wants to drink there life away
[19:31] <QueenVee> i'm a little baffled as to how the zetas can predict which side of the earth will be facing the sun at time of stoppage, if they are not able to predict the exact date and hour of the shift....
[19:32] <Shaman464> mathmatic
[19:32] <MattJB> that should be a question queen
[19:32] <MattJB> use that
[19:32] <Shaman464> its not smiple, but i think they can handle it
[19:34] <MattJB> and surely the effect on the various areas must be determined by when it passes?
[19:35] <Shaman464> yea, the tail
[19:35] <QueenVee> yes, but they are able to predict that based simply on what side of the earth it passes....
[19:35] <QueenVee> WHEN it passes is not that important
[19:35] <Shaman464> sure it is
[19:36] <Shaman464> the tail,
[19:36] <MattJB> sometimes i wonder if they actually know an exact date but are chosing at this point to keep it from us and nancy
[19:36] <Shaman464> the tail will thourgh rocks on the side in day time
[19:36] <QueenVee> okay, i know they explain this all in zetatalk, i'll re-read those sections before putting a question to nancy
[19:37] <Shaman464> it depends on what side youre on what your affecet form the tail is
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[19:39] <monk> Hi fetus
[19:39] <fetus> hi
[19:40] <QueenVee> shaman: yeah, that makes sense..... i'm reading....
[19:40] <QueenVee> hi fetus
[19:43] <MattJB> ok what would your reaction be if the zetas come april say they ahve revised the date of the shift to say august?
[19:44] <QueenVee> okay, this page seems to explain what we were talking about: http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p20.htm
[19:45] <QueenVee> it seems to have to do with the magnetism of certain areas of the earth: "Thus, while at some distance from the point of passage, it has gripped Earth to the point of not letting the highly magnetized Atlantic Rift go...."
[19:46] <QueenVee> Matt: if that were to happen, i'd be outta here
[19:46] <MattJB> really?
[19:46] <QueenVee> ZetaTalk has been very firm about the scientific basis for the date, and the firmness of it....
[19:47] <MattJB> what if they claimed they were trying to get u prepared early
[19:47] <QueenVee> they have repeatedly said that there is NOTHING that could alter the timing of the passage
[19:47] <MattJB> ok
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[19:48] <QueenVee> it has been the consistency of zetatalk that has kept me here
[19:48] <JLOfan> has anyone been atching taken?
[19:49] <JLOfan> watching*
[19:49] <Shaman464> yes
[19:49] <JLOfan> Who is the main characters name in REAL life
[19:49] <MattJB> i agree just wanted to see your opinion
[19:49] <MattJB> i won't stand for any re scheduling
[19:50] <QueenVee> as i've said before, there is little wiggle room in zetatalk, and i like that
[19:51] <Shaman464> well, there is a little
[19:51] <Shaman464> middle to end of may thats wiggle room
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[19:52] <Shaman464> atleast she doesnt say 1100 am
[19:52] <MattJB> i've known for ages pole shift would happein mylifetime...the leapof faith is the zetas and the 2003 date
[19:52] <QueenVee> Shaman: it would only be if they predicted that it would arrive "sometime" in that period
[19:52] <Shaman464> then there would be what time zone
[19:52] <QueenVee> they've given a pretty specific date -- with no more than a couple of days wiggle room
[19:53] <Shaman464> true
[19:53] <Shaman464> will she have a date soon?
[19:54] <MattJB> well may 15 or a day either side
[19:54] <QueenVee> May 15 is the current date, with the warning that it on the early side of the couple days wiggle room
[19:54] <MattJB> thats pretty damn accurate
[19:54] <Shaman464> true
[19:54] <QueenVee> well, time will tell if it's accurate; but it's pretty damn specific
[19:54] <MattJB> yeah sorry wrong choice of word
[19:55] <QueenVee> if nancy were making all of ZetaTalk up, it would be next to impossible for her to maintain the consistency of the material....
[19:55] <Shaman464> atleast they cant debunk it because of date being out of our life times
[19:55] <monk> we should really know when it comes when its visable by the naked eye
[19:56] <MattJB> i think it is impossible for nancy to have made it up
[19:56] <Shaman464> well, i gotta get up early, i gotta hit the hay, bye
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[19:56] <QueenVee> i'd consider her a genius if she did
[19:56] <MattJB> the ONLY possiblity is the intentions of those she recieves thematerial from
[19:57] <QueenVee> true, but that's where the material speaks for itself
[19:57] <MattJB> or the most clever way in history for some agency to leak real material
[19:57] <MattJB> i'll take it at face value
[19:57] <QueenVee> i find it hard to imagine entities who intend deception (and thus STS) to create such an elaborate ruse
[19:58] <QueenVee> one that is so free of the trappings of STS methodology
[19:58] <MattJB> brb
[20:00] <QueenVee> this page has a cool picture showing which parts of the world will experience day/night at the time of the rotation stoppage: http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p20.htm
[20:01] <QueenVee> we're lucky in North America -- we have the Long Dawn; South American and Africa have the Long Day; Europe has the Long Dusk; and Asia and Australia have the Long Night....
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[20:02] <scooby-atwork> hey
[20:02] <QueenVee> hey
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[20:03] <monk> Hi froggy!
[20:03] <froggy> hey :)
[20:03] <QueenVee> good evening frogette
[20:03] <froggy> hi everybody :)
[20:03] <froggy> and how is everybody tonite?
[20:04] <scooby-atwork> working
[20:04] <froggy> tonite for me that is
[20:04] <froggy> are you having a good day at work scooby?
[20:05] <froggy> scooby where are you...........
[20:05] <monk> good
[20:06] <froggy> what's good
[20:06] <froggy> how are you monk and queenVee
[20:06] <scooby-atwork> just got here actually
[20:06] <scooby-atwork> and we're busy
[20:06] <scooby-atwork> :(
[20:06] <froggy> sorry
[20:07] <QueenVee> ï'm good froggy
[20:07] <monk> Im good
[20:07] <QueenVee> we were just talking about which side of the earth will be facing or away from the sun during the earth's rotation stoppage
[20:07] <scooby-atwork> ooooo
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[20:08] <froggy> i think i am on the warm side
[20:08] <QueenVee> this ZT page has a cool picture showing which parts of the world will experience day/night at the time of the rotation stoppage: http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p20.htm
[20:09] <QueenVee> yes, froggy; you and i are on the same longitude, we'll be experiencing the Long Afternoon.....
[20:09] <QueenVee> monk and scooby willl have the Long Dawn
[20:10] <scooby-atwork> that will be cool
[20:10] <QueenVee> yes, very warm; and also good view of PX in the sky
[20:10] <QueenVee> scooby: yes, cooler for you, but still warm, with no night to cool things down
[20:10] <scooby-atwork> i'm gonna read it when i am done with this call
[20:11] <scooby-atwork> lol....
[20:11] <scooby-atwork> i meant cool as in "neat"
[20:11] <QueenVee> haha
[20:11] <phoam> wait.. a good view of px? won't you want to be underground at that time as meteors will crash onto earth?
[20:11] <MattJB> ok i'm back
[20:12] <QueenVee> i'm talking about the three days before the shift
[20:12] <phoam> ahhh
[20:12] <phoam> my apologies
[20:12] <MattJB> gonna build me a viewing shaft...just like the pyramids :)
[20:13] <QueenVee> ah, here is where they explain how they know which side will be facing the sun, even though they don't know the exact hour of the shift:
[20:13] <QueenVee> Rotation stops with the Atlantic Rift facing the approaching planet, which is coming nearly from under the Sun, but not directly under, so Africa and Europe are turned a bit more toward the Sun than the North American continent. Therefore, the Long Day described by Joshua and the long night described by the West Coast indians.
[20:13] <QueenVee> end of quote
[20:14] <QueenVee> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p143.htm
[20:15] <MattJB> hmmmmm ok that works
[20:15] <phoam> hmmm
[20:16] <phoam> was Moses a contactee?
[20:16] <MattJB> queen i think i'dlike to know if earths twinj is going to suffer a poile shift
[20:16] <QueenVee> dang. i'm trying to find the part that says who will see what part of PX in the sky; i recall ZT saying that in some areas people will only see the tail as it curves the earth....
[20:16] <QueenVee> Matt: earth's twin? you mean PX?
[20:17] <MattJB> no
[20:17] <phoam> isn't mars, earth's twin?
[20:17] <MattJB> In September, 1995 ZetaTalk stated that there is an Earth Twin positioned in the same orbit as the Earth, balanced exactly opposite the Earth so that it cannot be viewed from Earth as it is blocked by the Sun. In November, 1997, verification of this came from Russian scientists.
[20:17] <phoam> oh
[20:17] <phoam> wow that's nuts man..
[20:17] <QueenVee> Matt: can you give me the link?
[20:18] <phoam> i've never thought of it!
[20:18] <phoam> thanks
[20:18] <MattJB> one sec
[20:18] <MattJB> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword23s.htm
[20:19] <MattJB> http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s37.htm
[20:19] <MattJB> 2nd one is more in depth
[20:20] <QueenVee> interesting
[20:20] <QueenVee> don't see why it would have a poleshift
[20:20] <QueenVee> since PX is not closely passing it
[20:20] <MattJB> it's orbit is directly related to ours
[20:20] <QueenVee> as it is the earth
[20:20] <MattJB> if ours changes its will 2
[20:20] <QueenVee> our orbit is not changing
[20:21] <MattJB> good point :P
[20:22] <MattJB> hey is there any in depth coverage on life on mars on zt?
[20:23] <QueenVee> lots, Matt. do a search.
[20:24] <QueenVee> this describes the effect of the PlanetX passing on other planets in our solar system: http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p35.htm
[20:24] <MattJB> hmmmm is there one with a timeline for the building of the monuments on mars?
[20:25] <QueenVee> Matt: there are quite a few pages that talk about mars -- do a search of "mars"....
[20:25] <phoam> but Mars is so cold..
[20:25] <phoam> like -37 ambient temp
[20:25] <phoam> celcius
[20:25] <MattJB> yes now phoam
[20:26] <MattJB> not in the past
[20:26] <phoam> so it was closer to the sun?
[20:26] <MattJB> more to do with its atmosphere thatn its location
[20:26] <QueenVee> Here's a nice summary of why they know exactly where the earth will stop rotation: The explanation for slowing rotation resulting in a stopped rotation during the week prior to the shift is that Planet X grips the Atlantic Rift magnetically, so the Earth does not turn past this grip.
[20:26] <phoam> yea, it hardly has an atmosphere
[20:27] <MattJB> got ittotrally now queen :) ta
[20:27] <MattJB> damn typos
[20:27] <phoam> perhaps if we could make one.. like polute it for instance.. then it would create a greenhouse effect
[20:27] <MattJB> green house effect is bullshit
[20:27] <phoam> how so?
[20:27] <MattJB> convenient excuse for our current weather patterns
[20:27] <QueenVee> yeah, even my mother knows that
[20:28] <monk> You should see my city today it looked like there was fog everywhere its just smog
[20:28] <monk> its so bad now adays
[20:28] <phoam> does not the inside of a container warm up if heat is continuously supplied to it?
[20:28] <phoam> the smog over here smells like Smacks cereal.. seriously..
[20:28] <QueenVee> we were watching something on the news today about greenhouse effect causing the weather problems, global warming and all that... and to my surprise my mother said "They're still not telling people what's really causing it...."
[20:29] <MattJB> :)
[20:29] <MattJB> phoam how do you think the planet has f=gone thru temp changes in the past?
[20:29] <monk> what does your mom think whats causing it
[20:29] <MattJB> not many cfc's before the last 50 years
[20:30] <phoam> Well pollution just increases.. never decreases.
[20:30] <QueenVee> monk: i've told her about PX
[20:30] <phoam> Unless somehow we abandon this current technology and find a better means of production.
[20:30] <MattJB> rubbish
[20:30] <MattJB> planet x arrival leadsto global warming
[20:31] <monk> well the weather changes isn't caused by planet x
[20:31] <MattJB> yes it is
[20:31] <MattJB> ABSOLUTELY YES IT IS
[20:31] <froggy> i don't understand why the sun stays the same at the time of the ps?
[20:31] <MattJB> it doesn't
[20:31] <MattJB> increased sun activity
[20:31] <MattJB> its thru the roof
[20:32] <scooby-atwork> froggy: the sun is WAY more massive than px
[20:32] <scooby-atwork> the sun actually rotates on an axis as well
[20:32] <froggy> oh, thanks everybody
[20:32] <QueenVee> monk: what makes you say it isn't caused by planet x?
[20:33] <phoam> it could be coincidence
[20:33] <MattJB> 7 years prior to passing the weather changes
[20:33] <phoam> wait a second!
[20:33] <phoam> how could a planet so far away affect our weather at this point?
[20:34] <phoam> it's not even close to pluto yet
[20:34] <froggy> if the sun gets hotter, then isn't that why we have what everybody calls global warming...did it start to get hot already?
[20:34] <MattJB> it is the effect it has on our sun
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[20:35] <phoam> yea. it's like an analog wavw
[20:35] <phoam> wave*
[20:35] <froggy> hi Zetapal :)
[20:35] <Zetapal> . ~~* .o O
[20:35] <Zetapal> Hi
[20:36] <QueenVee> hi zetapal
[20:36] <scooby-atwork> froggy: what people mean by global warming is the planet getting hotter due to gases being trapped in our atmosphere
[20:36] <Zetapal> Hi Queenie
[20:36] <scooby-atwork> hey ZP
[20:36] <Zetapal> ssup scoob
[20:36] <scooby-atwork> i finally figured out your sig!
[20:36] <scooby-atwork> I like it
[20:36] <Zetapal> :)
[20:36] <scooby-atwork> ;^)
[20:36] <phoam> yea
[20:36] <QueenVee> <phoam> how could a planet so far away affect our weather at this point? -- that is explained in ZT, phoam
[20:37] <Zetapal> There are some good news articles over on Rense tonight
[20:37] <scooby-atwork> anyone listen to phil hendrie?
[20:37] <Zetapal> http://www.rense.com/
[20:37] <scooby-atwork> he did a spoof of Art Bell tonite that i heard on my way in to work that had me rolling on the floor
[20:37] <scooby-atwork> hilarious!
[20:37] <froggy> scooby, i know what global warming is....my question is , is the planet getting hotter due to the ps coming?
[20:37] <scooby-atwork> oic
[20:38] <phoam> i don't think so
[20:38] <phoam> not yet anyway
[20:38] <QueenVee> froggy: yes it is!
[20:38] <QueenVee> it has been in Canada, steady increase in temperature over the past five years
[20:38] <froggy> thank you
[20:38] <phoam> i did notice that
[20:39] <QueenVee> be back in a bit, gotta walk the dog
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[20:40] <froggy> scooby, why do you have artwork in your name?
[20:41] <phoam> he's at work
[20:41] <scooby-atwork> lol
[20:41] <scooby-atwork> yes i am at work
[20:42] <froggy> oh
[20:42] <scooby-atwork> lol, i misspelled
[20:42] <scooby-atwork> no it isnt
[20:44] <phoam> oh
[20:44] <froggy> i was watching taken tonite, i think it is alot like zt
[20:45] <phoam> The previews reminded me of fire in the sky.
[20:46] <froggy> it seems to follow zt almost to a t
[20:46] <phoam> Does it mention px?
[20:47] <froggy> not yet
[20:47] <froggy> scooby, i tired i work all day...can't see
[20:48] <froggy> i'm*
[20:48] <froggy> see :)
[20:50] <froggy> phoam, i did not see the fire part
[20:50] <Zetapal> glad to hear it froggy - I cant get sci-fi but "Taken" is beng posted on the Usenet - I am downloading part 2 as we speak - look forward to seeing it - and I may try to come up with a way to share
[20:50] <froggy> i sure hope you do....i think everyone will like it alot
[20:50] <phoam> Fire in the Sky?
[20:50] <phoam> it's a movie
[20:50] <phoam> and a book
[20:51] <MattJB> a real event more importantly
[20:52] <froggy> i'm glad there are computors....how did we live without them?
[20:52] <phoam> yea, based on an apparent happening
[20:52] <MattJB> you'll find out in 6months
[20:52] <Zetapal> Taken - will have 10 parts, 2 hours each = the guy doing the posting does excellent work, uses the best compression codecs - I am checking file size now - standby
[20:52] <phoam> we actually used our brains to calculate heheh
[20:55] <Zetapal> file size for each episode will be 243Mb in asf format
[20:56] <Zetapal> thats what - 3 episodes per CD ?
[20:56] <Zetapal> excellent
[20:57] <froggy> good job Zetapal :)
[20:57] <monk> fire in the sky i remember the movie it was on fox
[20:58] <monk> I had a dream I was abducted after that movie
[20:58] <Zetapal> for those of you with high speed connections, perhaps one night when the whole thing is completed, I will disconnect my firewall and we'll have a DCC session
[20:58] <froggy> what was if about...fire in the sky, then your dream
[20:59] <MattJB> i saw it at themovies... i fellold now
[20:59] <MattJB> feel old even
[20:59] <monk> ahh i just tangled in spider web type stuff
[21:00] <Zetapal> those of you that wish to recieve the whole series will have to clear out room for 2.5 gigs for "Taken" - wow
[21:00] <Zetapal> lol
[21:00] <Zetapal> can you handle it big boy?
[21:00] <monk> the whole series is on the net now ?
[21:00] <Zetapal> no monk
[21:01] <scooby-atwork> everything is on the 'Net
[21:01] <scooby-atwork> lol
[21:01] <Zetapal> downloading episode 2 now
[21:01] <froggy> cool
[21:02] <monk> episode 3 is on now for me
[21:02] <froggy> i can't wait to see what everybody thinks of it
[21:02] <Zetapal> yes monk of course because you are watching it on TV - wow - clue in
[21:03] <froggy> lol
[21:03] <monk> oh I thought I was the only one
[21:03] <Zetapal> whew
[21:06] <froggy> i think Stephen Spielberg has been reading zt
[21:07] <monk> stephen spielberg always has been intrested in aliens
[21:07] <froggy> that is true
[21:07] <phoam> lol ?
[21:08] <froggy> why is that funny
[21:09] <monk> if anyone is intrested in talking about pyshic stuff or any spiritual stuff you can goto channel #god
[21:09] <froggy> thanks monk, how did you find that channel?
[21:10] <monk> I made it
[21:10] <monk> :)
[21:10] <froggy> you are so sweet :)
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[21:23] <froggy> okay where is everybody?
[21:24] <Zetapal> ribbitt
[21:24] <froggy> hi
[21:24] <froggy> how many channels are there on irc
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[21:25] <froggy> hi
[21:25] <unka> hello
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[21:25] <MattJB> wb queen
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[21:26] <QueenVee> :-)
[21:26] <QueenVee> couldn't get my dog to come inside
[21:26] <phoam> long walk
[21:26] <QueenVee> he sure has a lot of energy for an elderly dog
[21:26] <phoam> oh
[21:27] <unka> battery is running low... gotta go, bye
[21:27] <Zetapal> froggy - i believe "fire in the sky" is the movie based on the alledgedly true abduction of one Travis Walton(I think that was his name) - who was abducted one night in the woods when he and his budies came upon a saucer on a logging road - Travis disappeared for I think 3 days, and reappeared in town,naked and traumatized, the whole town was looking for him, - a good abduction story with a horror film slant
[21:28] <MattJB> thats about it
[21:28] <MattJB> all of thempassed lie detector tests too
[21:28] <Zetapal> Queen can you scroll up to see my notes on the posting of "Taken"
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[21:29] <QueenVee> no, sorry, i can't. when i rebooted, i lost everything
[21:29] <Zetapal> ok I will restate in brief
[21:29] <QueenVee> okay, the Cliff Notes version
[21:30] <Zetapal> Taken - will have 10 parts, 2 hours each = the guy doing the posting does excellent work, uses the best compression codecs - I am checking file size now
[21:30] <Zetapal> file size for each episode will be 243Mb in asf format
[21:30] <Zetapal> thats what - 3 episodes per CD ?
[21:30] <QueenVee> wow
[21:30] <QueenVee> what would you need to play them?
[21:30] <Zetapal> for those of you with high speed connections, perhaps one night when the whole thing is completed, I will disconnect my firewall and we'll have a DCC session
[21:31] <Zetapal> those of you that wish to recieve the whole series will have to clear out room for 2.5 gigs for "Taken" - wow
[21:31] <Zetapal> <froggy> i think Stephen Spielberg has been reading zt
[21:32] <QueenVee> what would you need to play them, Zetapal?
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[21:33] <Zetapal> Queen - asf files are a very user friendly format - plays very well in Windows Media Player
[21:33] <QueenVee> cool
[21:33] <scooby-atwork> yeah, they stream nice
[21:34] <QueenVee> well, that would be wonderful ZP
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[21:34] <QueenVee> Hello SCUBA
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[21:34] <SCUBA> HELLO MY NAME IS SCUBA AND I'M NEW
[21:35] <MattJB> well new scuba take of caps lock
[21:35] <scooby-atwork> no need to scream, friend
[21:35] <QueenVee> hello SCUBA; note: using caps is like shouting
[21:35] <SCUBA> thank u
[21:35] <scooby-atwork> welcome
[21:35] <Zetapal> yeah lets hope I can bypass the firewall - in any case I have given cmel a heads up on the posting info - he has usenet and DCC send capability - still waiting to hear back from him
[21:35] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room, Scuba
[21:35] <SCUBA> thank u
[21:35] <scooby-atwork> ZP: I have fast connection and d/l part one last nite
[21:36] <scooby-atwork> Did I hear correct: same guy posting second one tonite?
[21:36] <SCUBA> a lond time feeling and the info i've just gotten at zetatalk
[21:36] <SCUBA> i want to be STO,
[21:37] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[21:37] <Zetapal> great scoob - I am downloading episode 2 now from group alt.binaries.great - though it may be available in other groups, using post from "sterntuary" - does good work, very dependable
[21:37] <SCUBA> about 1 week or more
[21:38] <scooby-atwork> that's the guy!
[21:38] <Zetapal> yup
[21:38] <Zetapal> he's da man for sure
[21:38] <scooby-atwork> I haven't had a chance to combine them yet
[21:38] <scooby-atwork> Scuba: Did you hear Nancy on Coast to Coast?
[21:38] <Zetapal> asf format,243Mb each episode
[21:39] <scooby-atwork> 10 episodes total?
[21:39] <SCUBA> i can travel anywhere in the contentinal us and want 2 help where needed
[21:39] <Zetapal> correct scoob, 10 episodes total
[21:39] <SCUBA> yes on art bell
[21:39] <QueenVee> SCUBA: well, you are probably most needed close to home with your own friends and family
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[21:40] <QueenVee> hello Nickname
[21:40] <SCUBA> i've no ties,and believe my mother will not make it through shift
[21:40] <QueenVee> how old are you, scuba?
[21:40] <nickname> hi
[21:41] <QueenVee> what brings you here, nickname?
[21:41] <SCUBA> 50 in good health and able
[21:41] <nickname> read a site
[21:41] <QueenVee> how long ago did you read that site?
[21:41] <nickname> today
[21:41] <QueenVee> i see
[21:42] <QueenVee> scuba and nickname: what part of the world do you live in?
[21:42] <nickname> ca
[21:42] <SCUBA> i just dont want to resign to reincarnate
[21:42] <SCUBA> no. ca
[21:43] <QueenVee> you're both in california?
[21:43] <SCUBA> yes
[21:43] <QueenVee> well, first thing you're gonna have to do is relocate
[21:43] <MattJB> welcometo the pacific ocean floor
[21:43] <QueenVee> lol
[21:44] <nickname> its not all going down
[21:44] <QueenVee> it's wet, but it's home
[21:44] <SCUBA> i'm trying to make the CALL,no problem to reloc
[21:44] <QueenVee> so what part of CA are you in, nickname?
[21:44] <nickname> near mexicali border
[21:45] <nickname> where are you
[21:45] <QueenVee> Ontario Canada
[21:45] <SCUBA> northern cal
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[21:45] <SCUBA> i'm at the foot of mt.lassen
[21:46] <QueenVee> not so bad, but still a rough ride
[21:46] <SCUBA> i know,mt shasta is where i can c it
[21:47] <SCUBA> lassen in my back yard
[21:47] <QueenVee> how are away if the nearest volcano?
[21:48] <SCUBA> im at the base of lassen and shasta is 50 mile3s away
[21:48] <scooby-atwork> nickname: are you in sandy eggo?
[21:48] <SCUBA> its giong to heat up pretty soon
[21:49] <nickname> nope
[21:49] <SCUBA> dont know
[21:49] <scooby-atwork> what part?
[21:49] <nickname> out of el centro
[21:49] <scooby-atwork> i'm in san diego
[21:49] <nickname> good
[21:49] <scooby-atwork> actually in imperial beach
[21:50] <scooby-atwork> you may be ok there.
[21:50] <MattJB> all those zoo animalswill soon be free
[21:50] <scooby-atwork> you're about 100 or so miles from the coast, right?
[21:50] <scooby-atwork> mattJB: lol
[21:50] <SCUBA> anyway lassen was last active in 1914
[21:50] <QueenVee> nickname: so are you staying put?
[21:50] <scooby-atwork> scuba: volcanoes that were active long ago will come back to life
[21:50] <nickname> think so
[21:50] <MattJB> all dormant volcanos will become active
[21:51] <scooby-atwork> what he said
[21:51] <MattJB> :P
[21:51] <SCUBA> i am about 200 mi.away from coast at 4000 ft
[21:51] <MattJB> good height
[21:51] <scooby-atwork> you may become coastal when this is all over
[21:51] <scooby-atwork> :)
[21:51] <MattJB> make a nice island
[21:51] <MattJB> :)
[21:51] <scooby-atwork> anyone have the data on how far inland the pacific will come?
[21:52] <SCUBA> i know thats why im looking 4 a group to reloc 2 and STO
[21:52] <nickname> no family?
[21:53] <SCUBA> none that will make it through
[21:53] <phoam> how long will it last? sorry
[21:53] <nickname> thats sad
[21:53] <nickname> you should help the others
[21:53] <MattJB> damn just found the zetas disagree with one of the best booksi ever read
[21:53] <MattJB> how dissapointing
[21:53] <QueenVee> a reality for a lot of us
[21:53] <QueenVee> nickname: what others?
[21:54] <SCUBA> its been a good life 4 those who will not make it
[21:54] <QueenVee> Matt: do tell
[21:54] <nickname> family & friends
[21:54] <scooby-atwork> I posted this the other nite and wondered if anyone checked out the earthships:
[21:54] <scooby-atwork> http://www.earthship.org/edu/what.php
[21:54] <scooby-atwork> I think this will be a model for future homes
[21:54] <QueenVee> nickname: i'm sure scuba is a better judge of what his family members are capable of
[21:54] <scooby-atwork> build off the trash that we leave behind
[21:54] <MattJB> about the turin shroud - that it was actually jacques de molay - last leader of the knights templar who was thpought of by the templar as highly as christ
[21:54] <QueenVee> Matt: yep, a fake
[21:55] <MattJB> date fits in perfectly with the carbon dating
[21:55] <phoam> i thought they found paint flakes in it?
[21:55] <MattJB> but zetas claim the shroud is a 1950s fake
[21:55] <QueenVee> no, not 50s fake
[21:55] <nickname> it is hard to create a family tie with stranger instead of fixing what is wrong with current
[21:55] <MattJB> yes 1950's
[21:55] <QueenVee> link?
[21:55] <MattJB> i read it today
[21:55] <MattJB> one sec
[21:55] <SCUBA> queenvee can u direct me to a group that needs help?
[21:56] <phoam> earthships.. reminds me of Star Wars on Tattoine..
[21:56] <scooby-atwork> heh
[21:56] <QueenVee> SCUBA: i'm afraid i can't; if you hang around this chat room, you might meet people....
[21:56] <SCUBA> thank u
[21:56] <scooby-atwork> phoam: the concept is cool
[21:56] <MattJB> http://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m19.htm
[21:56] <phoam> yea
[21:56] <nickname> r there groups here?
[21:56] <scooby-atwork> take a bunch of used rubber tires
[21:56] <MattJB> i find that hard to stomach
[21:56] <scooby-atwork> dig a "U" into a south facing side of a hill
[21:57] <scooby-atwork> and fill all the tires with dirt
[21:57] <scooby-atwork> then stack them like bricks in the U
[21:57] <QueenVee> thanks, Matt. when i read that, i was already so convinced that it was a fake of the middle ages, that i read it as 1150s....
[21:57] <phoam> yep
[21:57] <QueenVee> 1550s, rather
[21:57] <MattJB> either was jacques de molay is the great man the catholic church has made sure we forgot
[21:58] <MattJB> his image is the image of christ inmost stain glass windows
[21:58] <QueenVee> when did the shroud first come to public attention?
[21:58] <SCUBA> if there any groups that need serious help,please contact scuba053@yahoo.com. i am healthy and more than able 2 help.
[21:58] <nickname> are you strong?
[21:58] <MattJB> about 1300 - that'swhy i don'tunderstand the zetas claim
[21:58] <SCUBA> i can reloc with little problem
[21:58] <MattJB> there are records of it being on display in france
[21:59] <QueenVee> mmmm, odd
[21:59] <nickname> you have money for food scub
[21:59] <scooby-atwork> huh?
[21:59] <SCUBA> ,no would have to find work after relocating
[21:59] <nickname> short time to starve, is okay
[22:00] <scooby-atwork> plan on bartering after the shift
[22:00] <QueenVee> Matt: perhaps a second fake was made in the 1950s, one that would stand up to chemical analysis....
[22:00] <Zetapal> Scuba - be careful who you engage and use your intuition and pray for guidance, with an over-enthusiastic zeal to help, you are among other things, a "mark", and are in a prime position to be taken advantage of by unscrupulous people, protect your willingness to help,temper it with patience,reserve, and good judgement, and you will succed, good luck to you faithful one.
[22:00] <MattJB> maybe....
[22:00] <phoam> i'll build droids to help around the house while i herd the nerf
[22:00] <QueenVee> good advice, zetapal
[22:00] <MattJB> did you know thats where we get friday the 13th from?
[22:00] <SCUBA> i can work up till the shift if need be,4 $ or help in group
[22:00] <MattJB> the day the templar were slaughtered
[22:01] <QueenVee> interesting
[22:01] <phoam> who slaughtered them?
[22:01] <nickname> political opponents
[22:01] <phoam> oh
[22:01] <MattJB> on orders of the king of france and his puppet pope
[22:01] <nickname> in a nutshell
[22:01] <phoam> if only the templar were jedis..
[22:01] <SCUBA> thank u QV good advise, i have seen alot of that
[22:02] <QueenVee> scuba: put out the call and the right opportunity will present itself
[22:02] <scooby-atwork> who are the templars
[22:03] <scooby-atwork> scuba: the call will find you
[22:03] <scooby-atwork> no need to put it out
[22:03] <SCUBA> i just want to be sto be3 for its 2 late 2 offer anything. i am thankful 4 finding out at this late date
[22:04] <scooby-atwork> you prolly are already STO
[22:04] <scooby-atwork> you sound like it
[22:04] <nickname> am i
[22:04] <SCUBA> i ve contacted a couple of the people at zeta
[22:04] <QueenVee> ZT on Knights Templar: http://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m43.htm
[22:04] <scooby-atwork> what do you think?
[22:04] <nickname> yes, but i wonder what your opinion is
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[22:05] <scooby-atwork> i don't know you
[22:05] <QueenVee> how on earth would we know what your orientation is based on the few short sentences you have posted here?
[22:05] <MattJB> i highly reccomend toanyone to read the secondmessiah
[22:05] <MattJB> second messiah
[22:05] <SCUBA> also tried e-mailing nancy,but i know she's swamped
[22:06] <nickname> you are right, its to early
[22:06] <scooby-atwork> scuba: use the zen method
[22:06] <scooby-atwork> your purpose will find you
[22:06] <SCUBA> done that
[22:06] <scooby-atwork> then you're set
[22:06] <scooby-atwork> follow it thru
[22:06] <SCUBA> i guess im just waiting now 4 more contact
[22:06] <QueenVee> Scuba: nancy is not able to reply to personal questions
[22:07] <QueenVee> try not to be anxious, scuba
[22:07] <MattJB> wonder why the british government is suddenly opening its ufo files
[22:07] <MattJB> i smell a rat
[22:07] <scooby-atwork> really?
[22:07] <SCUBA> it wasnt personal it was an offer to STO
[22:07] <QueenVee> Matt: ZetaTalk answered a question on that last saturday
[22:07] <MattJB> really?
[22:07] <MattJB> what was said?
[22:08] <QueenVee> scuba: yes, but it related to you personally
[22:08] <SCUBA> o i c
[22:08] <QueenVee> Matt: i'll have to look
[22:08] <MattJB> thanks queen - no rush
[22:08] <scooby-atwork> scuba: everything happens for a reason
[22:09] <scooby-atwork> you found out about this "for a reason"
[22:09] <SCUBA> the only thing better than a failure is a try
[22:09] <scooby-atwork> follow your instincts and you will be OK
[22:09] <SCUBA> i know thats why im offering sto
[22:10] <scooby-atwork> your offer will be taken up by someone or something
[22:10] <scooby-atwork> trust in your feelings
[22:10] <SCUBA> i am
[22:10] <QueenVee> Matt: here is what ZT said about britain:
[22:10] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: The Brits, in alliance with the US, are very busy these days, Blair trying to be a good buddy while taking intense heat from his lawmakers and public.
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[22:10] <QueenVee> otay
[22:11] <MattJB> <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: The Brits, in alliance with the US, are very busy these days, Blair trying to be a good buddy while taking intense heat from his lawmakers and public.
[22:11] <QueenVee> let's try that again
[22:11] <MattJB> thats what i have so far
[22:11] <QueenVee> NancyL) ZT: Bush trying to find reason for a war with Iraq, so their oil can be well in hand and Israel put in charge of Iraq AND Saudi oil prior to the shift, as planned.
[22:11] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: Where publically waving and smiling, they are anything BUT happy behind the scenes, and they and their staff and increasingly igmoring relatively minor matters.
[22:11] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: Like children who sneak out and raid the refrigerator when the parents are holding a party on the patio, one drinnk too many and loud conversation and music, those in their governments LONG wanting to reveal these matters to the public see their chance.
[22:11] <QueenVee> NancyL) ZT: Look BEHIND these slips, the lack of oversight, to what must be going on in the smoke filled rooms of power!
[22:11] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: What would be SO engrossing that they would overlook what was in such tight control just years ago?
[22:11] <QueenVee> end of quote
[22:11] <SCUBA> i want to go 2 wisconson.sto
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[22:12] <QueenVee> scuba: why wisconsin?
[22:12] <Zetapal> not to throw water on anyones fire but be advised - while the conscious mind worries whether it is STO or not,and this is a normal reaction, the z's state that an orientation decision of STO is primarily an UNCONSCIOUS one and it may take hundreds of incarnations in 3rd density for an entity to arrive at this decision. ie, trying or wishing to be STO isn't really where it's at
[22:12] <MattJB> hmmmmm so the revelations were sneaked out whilst the government was consumed elsewhere
[22:12] <QueenVee> Zetapal: very good reminder
[22:13] <MattJB> have you heard about the fireman strike in the uk queen?
[22:13] <QueenVee> one does not make a conscious decision to "become" STO, it is something that happens over many incarnations
[22:13] <SCUBA> to be where it will all take place, if its good 4 N.L. its good 4 me
[22:13] <QueenVee> Matt: yes
[22:13] <phoam> so what is the life-span of a new incarnation?
[22:13] <MattJB> guess who runs the streets queen if the fireman are on strike
[22:14] <QueenVee> scuba: well, nancy is not looking for anyone to join her group of friends and family
[22:14] <SCUBA> i c
[22:14] <QueenVee> phoam: it has the lifespan it has
[22:14] <QueenVee> Matt: yes, exactly
[22:14] <phoam> in years?
[22:14] <MattJB> well shock horror if the fireman are on strike the military take over
[22:15] <phoam> or the incarnation can be anything? like a dog?
[22:15] <SCUBA> but it still must be a good place if in the us
[22:15] <MattJB> i think the strike was a dry run
[22:15] <QueenVee> phoam: it is as varied as the lifespans of humans throughout the ages, don't be silly
[22:15] <QueenVee> scuba: it really sounds as though you are looking for someone to take you in
[22:15] <phoam> so around 1000 years to arrive at a decision
[22:16] <SCUBA> no i'm looking to help,not freeload
[22:16] <QueenVee> well, nancy doesn't need help
[22:16] <QueenVee> phoam: the one and only point of 3rd density existance is to come to a decision about orientation
[22:17] <Zetapal> phoam -Z's say that the number of incarnations differs with each entity, some take more than others, suffice it to say that there is alot to learn and decide upon in 3rd density
[22:17] <phoam> hrmm
[22:17] <SCUBA> thats ok , it doesn't have to be nancy just anyone who wants help,cause i dont know of any others yet. just want to help
[22:18] <nickname> have you tried the troubled time lists
[22:19] <scooby-atwork> you will meet them if you haven't already
[22:19] <QueenVee> scuba: the best way you can help is to relocate to a safe location and start stockpiling food and supplies; that way you will be able to help people after the shift
[22:19] <SCUBA> which part?
[22:19] <scooby-atwork> send your email address to Queen Vee on a private channel and she will add you to the announcement list
[22:19] <MattJB> yeah why are so many ppl looking to help now....so much more to offer in the months after the shift
[22:20] <SCUBA> this is what i'm trying to get started on tonight,i edont want to waste anytime,if u can c my point
[22:20] <QueenVee> yes, but you seem to be wanting to find the people first
[22:20] <QueenVee> you know the saying: if you build it, they will come
[22:20] <phoam> that's from a fictional novel
[22:20] <QueenVee> go build your safe location
[22:21] <nickname> it is also from a baseball movie
[22:21] <phoam> yea
[22:21] <phoam> also a movie about a corn field
[22:21] <QueenVee> enough
[22:21] <nickname> yes very true
[22:21] <phoam> lol
[22:21] <scooby-atwork> slightly off topic, but check this out:
[22:21] <scooby-atwork> http://www.onemotion.com/cgi/flash.cgi?movie=spider&bg=FFFFFF
[22:21] <phoam> Baseball in the corn field.. good old days with dad.
[22:22] <scooby-atwork> move your mouse
[22:22] <nickname> i dont know
[22:22] <QueenVee> you have to help yourself before you can help others
[22:22] <scooby-atwork> good point QV
[22:22] <phoam> hey that's cool
[22:22] <scooby-atwork> yeah
[22:23] <SCUBA> i've found out just recently, and figured by this time there might be groups that screen people who r sincere,and go where need the most. i'm flying in the dark until now in this chat room, and thought to let some1 know my intentions
[22:23] <Zetapal> Scuba - perhaps one of the things you can do now is begin to build a foundation of knowledge - read ALL of Zetatalk, and not quickly but thoughtfully, letting it sink in, reflect upon the different points and their implications, then explore the sister site Troubled Times which offers solution sets, THEN you will be ready to BEGIN.
[22:23] <scooby-atwork> good adv ZP
[22:24] <QueenVee> yes, excellent advice
[22:24] <SCUBA> i've printed it all aqnd read it every night . theres so much, but i've started
[22:24] <QueenVee> good start
[22:24] <phoam> yes, being!
[22:24] <phoam> begin!
[22:25] <SCUBA> i figured this was my next step
[22:25] <Zetapal> SCUBA - glad you took it, good to have you here, WELCOME :)
[22:26] <SCUBA> 2 contact people already in the know,with a start. if not then i guess i start myself
[22:26] <SCUBA> thank u zp
[22:27] <QueenVee> www.zetatalk.com is the very best place to start
[22:27] <SCUBA> seek and u will find, knock and it will be opened,
[22:28] <SCUBA> so this is what im doing. dont want 2 b silent
[22:28] <Zetapal> sure -you'll be fine, you are perhaps just a bit nervous because this thing is so BIG, and thats normal, just relax yourself a bit, we'll be here, you'll be here, and we'll go through this thing together.:)
[22:28] <SCUBA> lol thanks
[22:28] <Zetapal> :)
[22:28] * QueenVee sets mode: +m
[22:29] <QueenVee> Scuba: this is what ZT had to say last saturday:
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: We have recommended from the start that survivor groups start with one's friends and family, known entities.
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: Even should you not particularly LIKE your relatives, and they dispise your friends, at least you have known entities about you.
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: We have advised against meeting on the internet, answering adds, posting one's qualification in a database, or similar trust-all schemes.
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: Those with skills are unlikely to NEED to post them and seek entry into another group, as almost everyone who knows them will be uttering invitations!
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: Thus, those who advertise are likely the type of person to NEED support, in massive doses, both physical and emotional.
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: We have also advised, as has Nancy within Troubled Times, to keep a low profile, NOT advertise your site or your presence.
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: After the shift, those who have not lined up a relatively safe location, stocked away a few weeks food suppy or a tent or cot, will adapt.
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: Even those who HAVE prepared must find themselves at that level, as the unprepared, soon enough.
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: One cannot live as an island, well prepared and ignoring the neighbors, as the presence of a well stocked and electrified group SOON becomes known.
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: Would you turn your guns on your neighbors starving children?
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: We have predicted that government snoop methods, such as tracking small purchases or the whereabouts of those claiming to be contactees, will fail.
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: They will be ovewhelmed with tasks more immedaite and pressing, going into the shift.
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: We have recommended that supplies be stocked AWAY from the home of the purchase, and NO ONE talk of the survival site location.
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: If in spite of all these efforts, a group finds someone in their midst that is passing this information onto an establishment arm, what to do?
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: 1. should such a happenstance occur, first doubt it as the establishment has FAR more to worry about that a small group with few supplies.
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: If you can feed an army for a month, you may have a worry, but otherwise, they will ignore the tip!
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: 2 stay small, as this in itself is an insurance against attracting attention. Gangs looking to loot go to the RICH,which have immense stores, not the little guy.
[22:29] <QueenVee> NancyL) ZT: 3. if all else fails and you feel you are under scrutiny, start over!
[22:29] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: Ditch the supplies, which in any case should have been place in multiple places, unknown to any one individual.
[22:30] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: 4. If you truly feel you are likely to be invaded and looted, then group after the shift in a place where NO supplies exist!
[22:30] <QueenVee> (NancyL) ZT: These typse of maneuvers will better your chances, and in fact reduce the liklihood of looting or takeover to almost nill.
[22:30] <QueenVee> end of quote
[22:30] * QueenVee sets mode: -m
[22:30] <SCUBA> slow down
[22:30] <QueenVee> can be found in last saturday's log: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/cnov3002.htm
[22:31] <MattJB> ok guys my thursday workinf day is over before yours has begun
[22:31] <MattJB> closer to the weekend than you :P
[22:31] <QueenVee> yeah, rub it in
[22:31] <QueenVee> nice to have you here, ralf
[22:31] <phoam> heh
[22:31] <QueenVee> er, Matt
[22:31] <QueenVee> lol
[22:31] <MattJB> lol
[22:31] <Zetapal> good job Queen
[22:31] <Ralf> i'm always here
[22:31] <MattJB> good to see lots of discussion today
[22:31] <QueenVee> sorry, ralf just private messaged me and i just typed his name....
[22:32] <MattJB> might come ona t home.....in between beers :)
[22:32] <MattJB> later
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[22:32] <QueenVee> no offence to Ralf
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[22:33] <QueenVee> your mind does funny things when you're tired
[22:33] <SCUBA> thank u QV good advice,taken 2 heart.
[22:33] <QueenVee> not my advice -- from the zetas ;-)
[22:34] <SCUBA> C
[22:35] <QueenVee> weird. someone just sent me an email thanking me for the seeds i sent them for the aftertime......
[22:35] <QueenVee> ?????
[22:35] <scooby-atwork> lol
[22:35] <scooby-atwork> was that in your dreams?
[22:35] <QueenVee> ha
[22:36] <scooby-atwork> you said something about strange drems lately
[22:36] <QueenVee> no, haven't dreamt about planting, etc yet -- everything has been about SHELTER in my dreams
[22:36] <QueenVee> making sure there is space for everyone, everyone has a mattreess to sleep on, a pillow, blankets, etc.
[22:36] <scooby-atwork> right on
[22:37] <scooby-atwork> i was just ribbing you
[22:37] <SCUBA> well i gess ill leave,and read thanks 4 showing me the latest report . i guess i just am over zealious, ill b more cauious
[22:37] <scooby-atwork> nite scuba and good luck to you
[22:37] <QueenVee> scuba: you are welcome here anytime
[22:38] <SCUBA> ill be here u can bet ur reincarnate lifem on it,night
[22:38] <QueenVee> nite
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[22:38] <QueenVee> i am really going to miss alcohol in the aftertime....
[22:39] <nickname> make some
[22:39] <scooby-atwork> i'll miss the ganja
[22:39] <Zetapal> nice newbie - i think he fits a type, we will see more and more here
[22:39] <nickname> stock up on seeds
[22:39] <scooby-atwork> i'll grow some and you can stash some alcohol
[22:39] <scooby-atwork> i am...
[22:39] <nickname> me too
[22:39] <scooby-atwork> bwahahahaha
[22:39] <scooby-atwork> nothing the drug czar will be able to do then
[22:39] <nickname> although i wish i can find tobaco seeds
[22:39] <QueenVee> zetapal: quite right, as time get closer, we'll be encountering that level of I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING NOW!
[22:40] <Zetapal> yep
[22:40] <Zetapal> talk em down - off the ledge
[22:40] <QueenVee> and we will be here to say.... breathe.....
[22:40] <scooby-atwork> ZP: not that I am an expert or anything, but you are right
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[22:41] <scooby-atwork> by the way, QV: I want to say thank you for setting this room up and sticking to your guns about no debating the topic in here
[22:41] <QueenVee> zetapal: you handled that situation brilliantly, gave him such good advice
[22:41] <scooby-atwork> this room has helped me to maintain my sanity
[22:41] <QueenVee> scooby: thanks. i'm the bitch to do it.
[22:41] <QueenVee> lol
[22:41] <scooby-atwork> rotflmao
[22:42] <scooby-atwork> it's nice to have a place to go and not worry about people trying to convince you of something else
[22:42] <scooby-atwork> just listen to you
[22:42] <QueenVee> it doesn't take a village -- it takes a bitch!
[22:42] <scooby-atwork> and calm your ass down
[22:42] <Zetapal> acceptance is something we all have to practice at - relax - LET GO - let the enormity of it wash over you
[22:42] <scooby-atwork> lol
[22:42] <scooby-atwork> right ZP
[22:42] <scooby-atwork> it is ENORMOUS!
[22:42] <QueenVee> it's all about FOCUS
[22:42] <scooby-atwork> last nite I was listening to Coast to Coast in the car on the way home (left work @ 12:50 AM)
[22:43] <QueenVee> we've seen from #troubled_times how easy it is for a chat room to lose focus
[22:43] <scooby-atwork> and when I got home I intended to turn it back on
[22:43] <scooby-atwork> and i forgot
[22:43] <nickname> what was it about last night
[22:43] <scooby-atwork> when I finally remembered, near the end of the show
[22:43] <scooby-atwork> some guy called in and asked the guest what he thought about what Nancy is saying
[22:43] <scooby-atwork> coincidence?
[22:43] <scooby-atwork> not!
[22:44] <QueenVee> cool
[22:44] <nickname> oh yes it was about noah ark right
[22:44] <QueenVee> what did he say?
[22:44] <scooby-atwork> can't remember what George said, but he managed to get off that topic and avoided the answer for the guest
[22:44] <scooby-atwork> the gyst was that
[22:44] <QueenVee> George is quite uncomfortable with the subject
[22:44] <scooby-atwork> the shift "may" happen
[22:44] <scooby-atwork> no pun inteneded
[22:45] <scooby-atwork> :)
[22:45] <scooby-atwork> yeah, i noticed that
[22:45] <nickname> i hear him often, george appears to be very convinced of a px
[22:45] <nickname> he always brings it up
[22:45] <QueenVee> well, all that is required is to put the idea into people's minds, to spark them thinking about it....
[22:45] <Zetapal> scooby - you know you can download coast-to-coast programs from group - alt.binaries.sounds.radio.misc - add it to your list ! :) - GO USENET yeeaayy
[22:45] <scooby-atwork> nice!!!!!!!
[22:45] <scooby-atwork> thanks ZP!
[22:45] <Zetapal> sure :})
[22:45] <scooby-atwork> figured I could somewhere, but never had the time to look
[22:46] <QueenVee> alternatively, i share my subscription to the Coast to Coast site with the members of this group:
[22:46] <QueenVee> To access the Art Bell archives, go to the following page: http://www.premiereinteractive.com/artbell/listen.php ; the User Name is QUEENVEE59@HOTMAIL.COM ; the Password is GZC532. To listen to the show live, go to http://www.premiereinteractive.com/artbell/listen.php and use the same name and password.
[22:46] <scooby-atwork> sent it to me at home!
[22:46] <QueenVee> write that down somewhere
[22:46] <scooby-atwork> oooo... that's even better!
[22:47] <scooby-atwork> I can maybe do that one at work!
[22:47] <QueenVee> :-)
[22:47] <nickname> thanks!
[22:47] <scooby-atwork> they are kinda fussy about streaming here tho
[22:48] <nickname> maybe the radio will notice many people on that account ?
[22:48] <Zetapal> so far so good
[22:49] <scooby-atwork> nice I'm in!
[22:50] <scooby-atwork> I wonder why Nancy is listed twice in the archives?
[22:50] <scooby-atwork> two entries for the same date
[22:51] <QueenVee> nickname: nah, i've been doing this for a while
[22:51] <scooby-atwork> i love the Internet!!!!
[22:51] <QueenVee> as martha would say, it's a good thing
[22:52] <nickname> its very cheap no need to steal
[22:52] <nickname> but thank you!
[22:52] <Zetapal> don't know about that specifically scoob - but nancy HAS done two interviews on Coast-to-Coast - the first was in January though
[22:52] <BobS> wow you guys are up late!! nite nite
[22:52] <scooby-atwork> nite
[22:52] <QueenVee> hey Bob
[22:53] <BobS> hey queen
[22:53] <BobS> how do?
[22:53] <QueenVee> getting sleepy
[22:53] <BobS> mmmm...me too...gotta be up in 5 hours...argh
[22:53] <QueenVee> oh, better get your beauty sleep then
[22:53] <BobS> okay i go..nite!
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[22:53] <QueenVee> nite
[22:54] <Zetapal> keep your eyes on the watch....back and forth....you are getting very sleeeepy....
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[22:54] <QueenVee> zetapal: the website was put on hold for a month, because Ralf lost his server, but i should have something within a few days now
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[22:55] <Zetapal> Queen - ah great - gotcha
[22:55] <QueenVee> hello IQman
[22:56] <QueenVee> oh, i see, he quit
[22:56] <monk> That was me queen
[22:56] <monk> my triva bot
[22:56] <QueenVee> ok
[22:58] <scooby-atwork> lol
[22:58] <scooby-atwork> what does that bot do?
[22:59] <monk> ask questions and then people answer them
[23:00] <scooby-atwork> a trivia bot?
[23:00] <scooby-atwork> oic
[23:00] <scooby-atwork> wasn't sure what a triva bot is
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[23:13] <scuba> hello,Im scuba,new and just observing right now
[23:14] <QueenVee> scuba: we're almost all going to bed now....
[23:14] <scuba> o.k. i just feel driven here
[23:15] <scuba> is there some where else i can go now?
[23:15] <QueenVee> lol -- not that i know of....
[23:15] <scooby-atwork> try /join #troubled_times
[23:15] <scooby-atwork> not sure if there is anyone there now
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