Session Start: Fri Dec 06 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] <tied2> I think it was on rence.com
[00:01] * Looking up scooby user info...
[00:01] <tied2> http://www.rense.com/general32/crhR.htm
[00:02] <tied2> there are so ...theres more at that site
[00:03] <tied2> I just noticed this   chem trails see to come from a much narrower stream like from the tail  where as com trails come from the wing tips usually
[00:04] <scooby> i see those all the time.
[00:04] <scooby> i thought they were just jet exhaust...
[00:04] <scooby> i'm audi gize....
[00:04] <scooby> i'll check in in about 45 minutes...
[00:05] <scooby> nite!
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[00:07] <QueenVee> nite all
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[00:39] <scooby-afk> nick scooby
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[00:39] <scooby> d'oh
[00:40] <tied2> scooby com trails are the compresion of air to the point of it becomes condensed due to airflow over the wings
[00:41] <tied2> some race cars can make con trails in the right conditions
[00:42] <scooby> so why the concern?
[00:43] <tied2> con trail and chem trails are different
[00:43] <scooby> so what are chem trails?
[00:43] <tied2> they are the release of bio chemicals made to look like con trails
[00:44] <scooby> oic
[00:44] <scooby> can you send that link again?
[00:44] <tied2> yeah
[00:46] <tied2> http://www.rense.com/general32/crhR.htm
[00:47] <tied2> there are more and better pic's there some where
[00:48] <scooby> so which are com trails and which are chen trails?
[00:48] <scooby> how can one tell?
[00:49] <tied2> it has to due to the way they drift and the patterns
[00:51] <scooby> are all those chem trails?
[00:51] <tied2> supposedly
[00:52] <scooby> hmmmm
[00:52] <scooby> what do com trails look like?
[00:52] <scooby> How are they different?
[00:52] <scooby> brb
[01:05] <scooby> im back
[01:25] <Zetapal> OMG any of yall listenen to ART Bell right now ???
[01:25] <scooby> thanks for remindig e
[01:25] <scooby> me
[01:25] <tied2> nope
[01:25] <scooby> i was listening earlier and forgot about it when i cam e in the house
[01:25] <Zetapal> damn tied your missin it - this caller is awesome
[01:25] <scooby> who is on where you are?
[01:25] <Zetapal> tune in quick if you can
[01:25] <scooby> southern lady?
[01:25] <Zetapal> priceless
[01:26] <Zetapal> yeah
[01:26] <scooby> lol
[01:26] <scooby> going intot he office?
[01:26] <Zetapal> the southern accent is deep woods
[01:26] <Zetapal> funny as shit
[01:26] <scooby> lol
[01:26] <Zetapal> thing is shes probably tellin the truth
[01:26] <scooby> louisiana
[01:27] <scooby> lol
[01:27] <Zetapal> rotfl
[01:27] <scooby> is she talking about the poleshift?
[01:27] <scooby> holy sh*t
[01:28] <Zetapal> lol
[01:28] <Zetapal> geeeezus
[01:29] <scooby> lol
[01:29] <scooby> rotfl
[01:29] <Zetapal> Art bell had enough - too bad
[01:29] <scooby> did you feel love?
[01:29] <Zetapal> that caller was gold - Howard Stern would have never let her off the air - lol
[01:29] <scooby> was she talking about ps in the end there?
[01:31] <Zetapal> not sure
[01:31] <scooby> you listening on KFI?
[01:32] <Zetapal> no I listen on my local radio station
[01:32] <scooby> where ru?
[01:32] <scooby> VA?
[01:32] <Zetapal> Richmond VA
[01:32] <scooby> woot!
[01:33] <scooby> you must be on the replay
[01:33] <Zetapal> I doubt that
[01:34] <Zetapal> its clear that we were listening to the same thing
[01:35] <scooby> actually, he re-broadcasts the stream here, but you are prolly right, listening to it live on the east coast
[01:35] <scooby> that makes sense
[01:35] <Zetapal> yeah
[01:40] <scooby> did you catch what she was saying about the map of Louisiana in the future?
[01:40] <scooby> how some of it was under water...
[01:40] <scooby> pretty trippy
[01:41] <scooby> holy shit this guy saw it too!
[01:43] <scooby> planet X that is
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[02:48] <BoY> :)
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[02:58] <goldilox369> hello
[02:58] <BoY> good mourning
[02:58] <goldilox369> how ar you?
[02:59] <BoY> pretty good
[02:59] <goldilox369> do you guys really think the pole shift is coming?
[02:59] <BoY> oh yes
[02:59] <goldilox369> thank god
[02:59] <BoY> dwhat you think about it
[02:59] <goldilox369> i believe
[02:59] <BoY> why thank god?
[03:00] <goldilox369> nobody else in my family will listen
[03:00] <goldilox369> i don't know what to do
[03:01] <goldilox369> have you been prepareing?
[03:01] <BoY> all anyone one can do id their best
[03:01] <BoY> yes i have been learning as much as i can about it
[03:02] <goldilox369> i have a friend who is going to move out west to california, he wants to hike around the wilderness
[03:02] <goldilox369> i told him
[03:02] <goldilox369> he sems to believe a little
[03:02] <goldilox369> at least he listened
[03:02] <BoY>  he believes bu7t going to cali?
[03:02] <goldilox369> did you tell your families?
[03:02] <BoY> that's odd
[03:03] <BoY> yes i told friends family
[03:03] <BoY> some thing i've had 1 to many others get angry
[03:03] <goldilox369> did they believe?
[03:03] <goldilox369> my brother got upset with me and told me i was crazy
[03:03] <BoY> i realized i can't save anyone maybe not even my self but i give it my best
[03:04] <goldilox369> yes i do too
[03:04] <goldilox369> where are you in the world?
[03:04] <BoY> nyc
[03:04] <BoY> where r u
[03:04] <goldilox369> i'm in VA
[03:04] <goldilox369> what do you plan to do when the shift comes?
[03:04] <BoY> r you near virginia beach
[03:05] <goldilox369> nope, near the appalachians
[03:05] <goldilox369> i'm near UVA
[03:06] <BoY> i have thoughtsd of going to minnesota near canada border to be in a location i think will be better than here
[03:07] <goldilox369> yes, my friend and i looked over the sites and we've decided to go out to Ohio or Wisconsin
[03:07] <goldilox369> my family doesn't understand why i don't want to be in school
[03:07] <goldilox369> how old are you?
[03:08] <BoY> well go about your life & enjoy it as now is all anyone of us have  if /when you feel it's time then do what you think is best
[03:08] <goldilox369> that's basically what i am going to do
[03:09] <goldilox369> how many of us are there that think this shift is coming?
[03:09] <BoY> i'd think 100,000  or so
[03:10] <goldilox369> really?
[03:10] <BoY> many people know of cayce who spoke of pole shift in 30's / 40's
[03:10] <BoY> many prepared years ago
[03:11] <goldilox369> yeah, my boyfriend told his dad using the cayce angle....i hope they prepare
[03:11] <goldilox369> they are in the VA beach area
[03:11] <goldilox369> i am trying to think of a way to get them to come visit us around that time
[03:12] <goldilox369> if they don't listen...
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[03:13] <BoY> well if / when the major earthquakes happen which i think will be soon then they may perk to what you say
[03:13] <goldilox369> i hope so...i'm just trying to help as many as i can
[03:14] <BoY> how can you help, do you have shelter?
[03:14] <BoY> supplies?
[03:14] <goldilox369> i'm going to try to buy these things quickly
[03:14] <goldilox369>  i only just learned about this recently
[03:15] <BoY> well well good
[03:15] <goldilox369> i'm devising a plan to get us out of here when the signs come
[03:15] <goldilox369> it is so hard to go about it without making people angry
[03:16] <BoY> sounds good have a plan just in case of emergency
[03:16] <goldilox369> yes...i'm going to talk to a friend of mine who is a computer tech and a survivalist
[03:17] <BoY> i have a plan in case of fire, i have several back packs with things i'd want to save to grab & run out
[03:17] <BoY> plans r good
[03:17] <goldilox369> that may come in handy in the aftertimes i he listens
[03:18] <goldilox369> but so far people mostly just think i am trying to be lazy and selfish
[03:18] <goldilox369> when i tell them that i don't want to go to school because i have more important things to preare for
[03:19] <BoY> i doubt if many will be actually prepared for a pole shift, more like take it as it comes if survive it after times would be incredible
[03:20] <goldilox369> i wonder why more people don't believe in this? it just seems so truthful...i sense that it is all out of goodwill...
[03:20] <BoY> yet in in deserts they're oasis
[03:21] <goldilox369> when i tell people to look at the website they think i am just some kind of sci-fi nut.
[03:21] <BoY> is it possible to convince anyone of anything?
[03:21] <goldilox369> nope
[03:22] <BoY> :)
[03:22] <BoY> either they c it or they don't
[03:22] <goldilox369> that is why i am glad i found someone who actually believed
[03:22] <goldilox369> it makes me feel better
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[03:22] <goldilox369> at least there is that
[03:22] <BoY> it is better to error on side of safety i think]
[03:22] <BoY> especially in this case
[03:23] <goldilox369> that's what i think!
[03:23] <BoY> what you think about nancy L & zeta talk?
[03:23] <goldilox369> well i'm going now...maybe we'll meet again sometime
[03:23] <goldilox369> oh
[03:23] <goldilox369> i believe she is for real
[03:24] <BoY> coming up with date
[03:24] <goldilox369> most of what she says makes sense
[03:24] <goldilox369> do you think the gov. knows what is going on?
[03:25] <BoY> oh yes i think so
[03:25] <goldilox369> do you think the pres. thinks he has a way out?
[03:25] <goldilox369> or will he be killed?
[03:28] <BoY> to me he's dangerously ignorant
[03:28] <BoY> even tho he's college educated
[03:28] <goldilox369> i think so too
[03:30] <goldilox369> i hope he doesn't incite someone else into detonating a nuclear warhead
[03:30] <BoY> i go now to juice tangerines for morning drink
[03:30] <BoY> afk
[03:30] <goldilox369> ok
[03:30] <goldilox369> see ya
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[03:37] <tied2> laters all
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[03:55] <obany> what an asshole
[03:55] <obany> pdate (12/05/02) : Queenvee has stated that Ilene Gruden is, in fact, her mother. However, this little biography won't be changed until Queenvee sees fit to reveal her true identity.
[03:55] <obany> that sapphire guy sucks dick
[03:56] <obany> he doesn't even fucking care about the privacy of someoen
[03:57] <obany> so well i am carefull ... don't post and adress, or put a pic on the web ... at least not where he could find it
[03:58] <obany> guess some would love to sue that guy
[03:58] <obany> nail him
[04:03] <BoY> hi obany
[04:20] <scooby> what a punk
[04:20] <scooby> 4:20
[04:20] <scooby> hey obany
[04:20] <scooby> hi BoY
[04:21] <scooby> if I was QV, I would have let it go...
[04:21] <BoY> hi
[04:21] <scooby> let him stay misinformed
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[04:33] <obany> scooby : but still
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[04:38] <scooby> yeah... did you notice the links at the bottom of his page:
[04:39] <scooby> http://www.navy.mil/
[04:39] <scooby> http://www.nsa.gov/
[04:39] <scooby> http://www.cia.gov/
[04:39] <scooby> hmmm...
[04:39] <scooby> debunker or rabble rouser?
[04:41] <obany> not sure , but yes those links are there ... just to tease people i think
[04:41] <scooby> right on..
[04:41] <scooby> i gotta crash... it's late here
[04:41] <scooby> nite
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[05:44] <Mugada> G'ay all
[05:45] <Mugada> G'day
[05:46] <obany> hi
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[06:45] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O
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[06:53] <Zetapal_Away> This "Taken" show is awesome !
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[07:00] <Zetapal_Away> tied2
[07:00] <Zetapal_Away>  This "Taken" show is awesome !
[07:00] <tied2> yeah I liked it
[07:01] <Zetapal_Away> you been watchinevery night?
[07:01] <tied2> no is it one evey night?
[07:02] <Zetapal_Away> oh god, Man of Dudeness, it is a miniseries, in 10 parts - 2 hours each part
[07:03] <tied2> oh I didn't know that
[07:03] <tied2> shit
[07:03] <tied2> I thought it was a once aweek show
[07:03] <Zetapal_Away> it should be on Sci-Fi M-F for two weeks - I don't get sci-fi so Im collecting them from usenet
[07:04] <tied2> kewl send me yesterdays show
[07:05] <Zetapal_Away> my DCC send doesn't work - wait a week or so - I'll bypass my firewall and send you any one you want
[07:05] <tied2> I had that trouble with my linky router
[07:05] <Zetapal_Away> in the meantime I think cmel might be collecting them - i certainly tipped him off, and HIS DCC send works!!!
[07:06] <Zetapal_Away> yeah tied - i got a linksys router - how did you get around it ?
[07:07] <tied2> I found a tutorial on line that told me the right settings
[07:07] <Zetapal_Away> oh shit - link link link ???
[07:07] <tied2> let me look and see if I still have it
[07:07] <Zetapal_Away> cool
[07:09] <tied2> I can tell you the settings easier probably
[07:11] <Zetapal_Away> ok
[07:11] <Zetapal_Away> whatever I can get, i will try
[07:12] <tied2> hang on I'm fixin me some chops
[07:12] <Zetapal_Away> pork chops?
[07:15] <tied2> yeah
[07:15] <Zetapal_Away> hmm - I'm fixin tater tots and meatballs - lol
[07:16] <tied2> I'll trade ya a chop for a tots?
[07:17] <Zetapal_Away> :)
[07:17] <Zetapal_Away> drinking a local micro-brewed Pale Ale - very hoppy - nice
[07:19] <Zetapal_Away> did you use a search engine to find that lynksys page?
[07:20] <tied2> I was thinking of having a beer but I'm job hunting and might get called in for a interview
[07:20] <Zetapal_Away> ahh
[07:21] <tied2> hell for the first time in 30 years I could probably pass a drug test lol
[07:22] <Zetapal_Away> did you see my question above?
[07:22] <tied2> yes goggle
[07:22] <Zetapal_Away> ok, think back, what parameters might you have used
[07:22] <tied2> I think I punt in linksys + dss send
[07:23] <Zetapal_Away> of course, let me try
[07:23] <Zetapal_Away> :)
[07:24] <tied2> the first one I found it's settings didn't work
[07:26] <Zetapal_Away> dss ? or dcc send ???
[07:26] <tied2> lol dcc
[07:26] <Zetapal_Away> see? ok
[07:27] <tied2> I f y owant I'll walk you thru it
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[07:31] <Zetapal_Away> welcome freax
[07:31] <Zetapal_Away> this is OUR party now
[07:31] <freax> something like that
[07:31] <tied2> lets have a beer
[07:31] <freax> i dont drinkl
[07:31] <tied2> ok a duby
[07:31] <Zetapal_Away> there ya go fire it up
[07:31] <freax> what the hell is a duby
[07:32] <tied2> joint
[07:32] <Zetapal_Away> joint
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[07:32] <freax> i see
[07:32] <freax> and you think this is a cool thing to smoke?
[07:32] <tied2> it probably never killed anyone
[07:33] <Zetapal> well, its not for everyone
[07:33] * freax grabs his bios survival guide and does some reading
[07:33] <Zetapal> but if you choose, then you should have the freedom to enbibe responsibly
[07:33] <tied2> I would think they would have killer weed down under
[07:34] <freax> no they mix tobacco with 'weed' here
[07:34] <tied2> huh?
[07:34] <tied2> oh a blunt
[07:34] <Zetapal> emm a little harsh that way
[07:35] <Zetapal> yeah we got blunts too - mostly the blacks do that
[07:35] <Zetapal> I use a pinch hit when I have it - otherwise a bowl or a bong
[07:35] <tied2> lol I remember the BONG days
[07:36] <Zetapal> yeah - still smooth, like then
[07:37] <freax> something like that
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[07:37] <tied2> freax I got a great survival site for ya
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[07:52] <QueenVee> Zetapal: hello -- day off?
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[07:56] <Zetapal> yup Queen going in tomorrow early
[07:56] <QueenVee> nice
[07:56] <Zetapal> then Off til wednesday
[07:56] <QueenVee> wanna see a  preview of the website?
[07:57] <Zetapal> sure
[07:58] <QueenVee> okay, only the first page works right now, so don't come back and say, Queen when i click on XYZ, nothing happens....
[07:58] <QueenVee> but you CAN  read the news stories
[07:58] <QueenVee> please don't try to register
[07:58] <Zetapal> ok
[07:58] <QueenVee> but if you could do me one favour, to test something.....
[07:59] <QueenVee> on the left hand side under "Sections", could you click on FIND OTHER SURVIVORS and tell me what happens?
[07:59] <QueenVee> site address: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[07:59] <Zetapal> ok
[07:59] <Zetapal> standby
[07:59] <QueenVee> standing by
[08:00] <QueenVee> sorry, the link is CONTACT OTHER SURVIVORS....
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[08:12] <QueenVee> wb
[08:13] <QueenVee> Zetapal ?
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[08:40] <Zetapal> wtf is goin on
[08:40] <Zetapal> I just got banned i couldn't even log on
[08:40] <Zetapal> to Funnet
[08:40] <QueenVee> WHAT?
[08:41] <Zetapal> yeah.............................
[08:41] <QueenVee> juditness?
[08:41] <Zetapal> hear what im sayin
[08:41] <QueenVee> no, i don't
[08:41] <QueenVee> what are you saying?
[08:41] <Zetapal> you asked me to go to the web page right?
[08:41] <QueenVee> yea....
[08:42] <Zetapal> ok well i went, ...
[08:42] <QueenVee> yea....
[08:42] <Zetapal> then boom
[08:42] <QueenVee> i really don't think they're connected
[08:42] <Zetapal> I'm disconnected and cant get back on with either machine
[08:42] <QueenVee> how could they be?
[08:42] <Zetapal> for about 10 minutes
[08:42] <Zetapal> now what do you call that?
[08:43] <QueenVee> weird
[08:44] <QueenVee> what do you call it?
[08:45] <QueenVee> what's going on?
[08:47] <Zetapal> I'm getting tired of all this shit
[08:48] <Zetapal> everybody wants to label you this or that - just try to be yourself
[08:48] <Zetapal> just try
[08:48] <Zetapal>  and you will be persecuted for being an individual
[08:48] <Zetapal> instead of a robot
[08:49] <Zetapal> i have had it with all of you dipshits\
[08:49] <Zetapal> political/ side taking
[08:49] <Zetapal> fear mongers
[08:49] <Zetapal> It is ridiculous
[08:50] <Zetapal> name callers, here for your own purpose
[08:51] <Zetapal> damn it to hell is my prayer
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[08:51] <QueenVee> bye
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[08:52] <miguel> hello
[08:53] <QueenVee> hi miguel
[08:53] <QueenVee> how are you?
[08:53] <miguel> hello queen
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[09:03] <QueenVee> hey wolf
[09:03] <ArcTicWoLf> hi
[09:04] <ArcTicWoLf> whats up?
[09:05] <QueenVee> well, i'm working on a website for this group
[09:05] <ArcTicWoLf> oh html heh
[09:05] <QueenVee> i have the "news" page done -- wanna peek?
[09:05] <ArcTicWoLf> sure
[09:05] <miguel> me too!
[09:05] <QueenVee> nothing else is finished/working yet, so don't try to register or anything....
[09:06] <ArcTicWoLf> ok
[09:06] <QueenVee> here's the page: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[09:06] <ArcTicWoLf> th
[09:06] <ArcTicWoLf> loads fast
[09:07] <ArcTicWoLf> like the title ...u putting counter on
[09:07] <miguel> nice!
[09:07] <ArcTicWoLf> hits etc?
[09:07] <QueenVee> all in good time....
[09:07] <ArcTicWoLf> heh
[09:07] <ArcTicWoLf> kewl
[09:07] <QueenVee> would you do me a favour?
[09:07] <QueenVee> to test something?
[09:07] <ArcTicWoLf> i like to no how many hits heh
[09:08] <ArcTicWoLf> sure
[09:08] <QueenVee> on the left, click on CONTACT OTHER SURVIVORS and tell me what happens
[09:08] <ArcTicWoLf> k
[09:09] <miguel> it seems to be working
[09:09] <ArcTicWoLf> it went to abc form
[09:09] <ArcTicWoLf> i hit A and page looks fine
[09:09] <ArcTicWoLf> I like the yellow
[09:10] <QueenVee> hit ALL and tell me if any names appear
[09:10] <ArcTicWoLf> k
[09:10] <ArcTicWoLf> 4 names
[09:10] <miguel> kindred works fine
[09:10] <miguel> 4 names in all too
[09:10] <ArcTicWoLf> wow i like your name
[09:11] <QueenVee> does it say at the bottom 8 names
[09:11] <QueenVee> 8 users found for all
[09:11] <ArcTicWoLf> i lived on Victoria Ils.
[09:11] <QueenVee> ha
[09:11] <QueenVee> does it say at the bottom "8 users found for all"?
[09:11] <ArcTicWoLf> yes
[09:12] <QueenVee> mmmmm
[09:12] <ArcTicWoLf> 4 hiding?
[09:12] <miguel> it says 8 users, but i only see 4
[09:12] <ArcTicWoLf> cia fbi? lol
[09:12] <QueenVee> unregistered users shouldn't be able to access that page.... back to the drawing board
[09:12] <QueenVee> yeah, there's a problem with the font, has to be fixed
[09:13] <QueenVee> like i said, it's not working yet
[09:13] <QueenVee> just wanted your response to the first page
[09:13] <miguel> queen: may i submit stuff on periodic climate changes?
[09:13] <QueenVee> miguel: the process will be for you to submit stuff to me, and i'll post it if i think it's suitable....
[09:14] <miguel> Ok
[09:14] <QueenVee> just send it to my email: queenvee59@hotmail.com
[09:14] <miguel> Ok
[09:14] <QueenVee> yeah, i like the yellow too....
[09:15] <QueenVee> i need to get another cup of coffee before going at this thing again.....
[09:15] <QueenVee> brb
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[09:22] <ArcTicWoLf> hi casper
[09:22] <casper> hello
[09:22] <ArcTicWoLf> how are ya?
[09:22] <casper> just relaxing reading up on things
[09:23] <ArcTicWoLf> me too my little guys home sic
[09:23] <ArcTicWoLf> was -2 last week -44 wit wind soon
[09:23] <casper> my little gals is just waking up
[09:24] <ArcTicWoLf> where are u?
[09:24] <ArcTicWoLf> im in Yellowknife
[09:24] <casper> Louisiana
[09:24] <ArcTicWoLf> warm?
[09:24] <casper> nope a mild 53 outside
[09:24] <ArcTicWoLf> heh thats hot 4 me heh
[09:25] <ArcTicWoLf> we swim here at 68-72
[09:25] <casper> really where are at
[09:25] <ArcTicWoLf> nwt
[09:25] <ArcTicWoLf> canada
[09:25] <casper> oh
[09:25] <ArcTicWoLf> we get dry summer not humid
[09:26] <ArcTicWoLf> we get as hot as 85
[09:26] <QueenVee> back
[09:26] <casper> ok
[09:26] <QueenVee> Wolf: another participant here has been asking a lot of questions about Yellowknife, is thinking of moving up there....
[09:27] <QueenVee> seems to me that it will be subject to flooding during the shift, yes?
[09:27] <ArcTicWoLf> its nice here but we are on the coast of a deep lake 650meters
[09:28] <QueenVee> ZT says western part of NWT will be nice.....
[09:28] <QueenVee> at higher elevation
[09:28] <QueenVee> what are you plans?
[09:28] <ArcTicWoLf> ya but the lake concerns me
[09:28] <QueenVee> flooding?
[09:28] <ArcTicWoLf> Ft simpson is 8 hr drive south west
[09:28] <ArcTicWoLf> near mountains
[09:29] <QueenVee> sounds better
[09:29] <ArcTicWoLf> lower pop density most are aboriginals living off of the land now heh
[09:30] <ArcTicWoLf> i figure i can barter 4 stuff ...im a mechanic
[09:30] <QueenVee> right
[09:30] <QueenVee> the climate is going to be very nice up there
[09:30] <ArcTicWoLf> they have medicine from the land
[09:31] <ArcTicWoLf> cant wait 4 nice weather
[09:31] <ArcTicWoLf> there are some big boats up here too
[09:32] <QueenVee> good folk to have around in the aftertime....
[09:32] <ArcTicWoLf> check out this gov of canada aution page look at east coasst atlantic  previous items ... check out the boats 4 cheap
[09:33] <ArcTicWoLf> http://crownassets.pwgsc.gc.ca/
[09:34] <QueenVee> geez -- wow
[09:35] <ArcTicWoLf> battle ship went 4 600,000
[09:35] <ArcTicWoLf> u can sleep 200
[09:35] <ArcTicWoLf> bar
[09:35] <ArcTicWoLf> heli port
[09:36] <QueenVee> wow, that would be quite an aftertime home....
[09:36] <ArcTicWoLf> 4000 bucks each
[09:36] <ArcTicWoLf> yup
[09:36] <QueenVee> very very cool
[09:36] <ArcTicWoLf> did u find the photos?
[09:37] <QueenVee> yes
[09:38] <QueenVee> there are so many creative solutions available, if the govt would just inform people so they can take advantage.....
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[09:49] <Ogmios> hi
[09:51] <QueenVee> hello ogmios
[09:51] <QueenVee> how are you?
[09:55] <Ogmios> i'm fine
[09:56] <Ogmios> and you?
[09:56] <QueenVee> good
[09:57] <QueenVee> working on the website for this group....
[09:57] <QueenVee> would you like a sneak preview?
[10:00] <Ogmios> ok
[10:00] <QueenVee> only the first page is working, so don't try to create an account or anything....
[10:01] <QueenVee> here's the page: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[10:01] <Ogmios> right..
[10:01] <Ogmios> thanks
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[10:04] <QueenVee> hello jimben
[10:04] <jimben> hi QueenVee ;)
[10:04] <miguel-work> must do some work, good bye
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[10:05] <QueenVee> bye miguel
[10:13] <obaway> QueenVee: ... better make it irc.funnet.org
[10:13] <obaway> :)
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[10:14] <QueenVee> hello Guest: please change your nickname to somethng other than "Guest"
[10:14] <QueenVee> ok, thanks obany
[10:14] <Guest> Ok.
[10:14] <Guest> Sorry for that.
[10:15] <Guest> Thought I had it configured correctly.
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[10:15] <QueenVee> hello MoonWolf, welcome
[10:15] <MoonWolf> Hello thank you.
[10:15] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room?
[10:16] <MoonWolf> Of course, it is my concern over the pole shift.
[10:16] <QueenVee> Ogmios: are you still there?
[10:16] <QueenVee> Moon: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[10:16] <MoonWolf> It has been weighing heavily on my mind. I am curious to see how others are expressing their concerns.
[10:16] <MoonWolf> Ever since I heard an interview on the Art Bell program.
[10:17] <MoonWolf> Just a few weeks.
[10:17] <QueenVee> well, in this chat room we discuss preparation.....
[10:18] <QueenVee> keep track of earth changes....
[10:18] <obany> bbl
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[10:18] <QueenVee> talk about the information provided by zetatalk....
[10:18] <MoonWolf> Ok, that is the reason for my visit here. Thank you. :)
[10:19] <QueenVee> where do you live?
[10:19] <MoonWolf> My home state is Florida. Since I noticed Florida is not a good place to be. I live south of Jacksonville Florida.
[10:19] <QueenVee> not good...
[10:19] <MoonWolf> I know.
[10:20] <MoonWolf> I read it.
[10:20] <MoonWolf> I also saw that Georgia is not a safe place either.
[10:20] <MoonWolf> This is very upsetting since most of my family lives in Georgia.
[10:20] <QueenVee> no, you have to get further inland
[10:20] <QueenVee> i can imagine
[10:20] <QueenVee> your family being what? parents, brothers & sisters?
[10:21] <MoonWolf> Aunts, cousins, and their siblings.
[10:21] <MoonWolf> My father passed away in January. However, my mother resides in Florida as well.
[10:22] <MoonWolf> I've asked her if she would humor me by going on a vacation the last week of March. Of course, I asked this in hopes of getting her out of the state.
[10:23] <MoonWolf> I've mentioned this information to many of my acquaintances. And most are very skeptical and do not appear to have the ability to imagine such a catastrophy.
[10:24] <QueenVee> well, not all are meant to be consciously aware of the event...
[10:24] <QueenVee> since most will due
[10:24] <QueenVee> die
[10:24] <QueenVee> March would be too early to take your mother on vacation; beginning of May would be right
[10:25] <MoonWolf> Well, I chose March since it was mentioned Nibiru would be visible around that time.
[10:25] <MoonWolf> I thought if I saw this thing in the skies, I'd surely want to get out as quickly as possible.
[10:26] <QueenVee> nah, you'll have 7 weeks from then
[10:27] <MoonWolf> So, you don't think that others who flee from the area would fill up the roadways and cause congestion? This would be my concern during that time.
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[10:27] <monk> hi
[10:28] <QueenVee> hiya monk
[10:28] <QueenVee> moon: not that early....
[10:28] <monk> 10 hour sleep i feel good
[10:28] <QueenVee> but if you can keep your mother "on vacation" for 7 weeks, then go for it
[10:28] <monk> :)
[10:29] <monk> LOL
[10:29] <QueenVee> monk, this is MoonWolf, he lives in Florida; monk is in California
[10:29] <monk> yea hey mom lets go on vacation for 7 weeks
[10:29] <MoonWolf> Ok, I think you are probably right. Thank you for the information. 7 weeks would be a bit much.
[10:29] <monk> it will be fun
[10:29] <monk> nice to meet you moon
[10:29] <MoonWolf> Same here.
[10:30] <monk> I had a cool dream last night
[10:30] <monk> I was flying
[10:31] <QueenVee> nice
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[10:32] <QueenVee> major quake in Myanmar today -- 5.9
[10:32] <QueenVee> anybody other than me not know that Myanmar is what used to be Burma?
[10:33] <QueenVee> Holy Crum! a 6.6 quake in the fiji islands area!
[10:33] <monk> no not me
[10:33] <MoonWolf> This is news to me. I didn't know. So, this quake could possibly be the result of Planet X coming closer.
[10:34] <monk> MoonWolf: there is so much happening in the world right now
[10:34] <monk> something everyday happens
[10:34] <QueenVee> moon: quakes have been on the upswing for months now
[10:35] <QueenVee> this is everyday news
[10:35] <QueenVee> except it doesn't make the mainstream news
[10:35] <MoonWolf> I believe you. Mention of the band of snow made me think of such happenings in a new way. I guess you could say I am a bit more sensitive to such events.
[10:36] <QueenVee> also, there's been a new development; the American quake reporting site -- the USGS -- has started to underreport quakes in the last few weeks, so you have to rely on other quake report sites to get the real news....
[10:37] <QueenVee> they now group several quakes into one and then average out their intensities....
[10:37] <MoonWolf> That is so not right.
[10:38] <QueenVee> here's a stark example: have a look at the cluster of strong quakes that occurred in Myanar today (further down the page): http://www.emsc-csem.org/cgi-bin/ALERT_all_messages.sh
[10:38] <QueenVee> now look at what appears on the USGS site: http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/
[10:38] <MoonWolf> Ok.
[10:39] <MoonWolf> Wow.
[10:39] <MoonWolf> I had no idea.
[10:39] <QueenVee> somehow a series of 5.7+ quakes has been downgraded to one 4.5 quake on USGS
[10:39] <QueenVee> yep
[10:39] <QueenVee> that's what we're dealing with
[10:40] <QueenVee> no explanation from USGS as to why they're doing this
[10:40] <MoonWolf> Is there a way to inquire about this? Email maybe? I'm sure you've already tried this.
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[10:42] <QueenVee> You should join this listserve group, run by a guy named Sherwood (Tuatha).....
[10:42] <QueenVee> he's amazingly up to date on this stuff....
[10:42] <QueenVee> and is on the USGS's case all the time
[10:43] <QueenVee> he has actually FORCED them to report quakes that they have left off their list completely
[10:43] <QueenVee> here's the address: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Earthchanges_discussion_prep_planetx/
[10:43] <QueenVee> hey tex
[10:43] <MoonWolf> Thank you.
[10:43] <MoonWolf> I will do what I can.
[10:43] <QueenVee> Tex, meet moonwolf, he is in Florida
[10:43] <MoonWolf> Hi Tex.
[10:43] <QueenVee> Sherwood is the guy to talk to about "making inquiries".....
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[10:44] <MoonWolf> Ok, I'm there now. Thank you again QueenVee
[10:44] <QueenVee> Tex: ARE YOU THERE????
[10:44] <tex-at-work> hey QV
[10:44] <QueenVee> oh
[10:45] <tex-at-work> phone rang just as i was coming in
[10:45] <tex-at-work> hi MoonWolf
[10:46] <MoonWolf> Hi Tex. Was juggling web pages. Sorry for the delay.
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[10:48] <QueenVee> wb ogmios
[10:48] <QueenVee> did you have a look at the web page?
[10:48] <Ogmios> thx
[10:48] <Ogmios> yes..looked nice
[10:48] <QueenVee> :-)
[10:49] <QueenVee> tex: have a look at the cluster of strong quakes that occurred in Myanar today (further down the page): http://www.emsc-csem.org/cgi-bin/ALERT_all_messages.sh
[10:49] <QueenVee>  now look at what appears on the USGS site: http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/
[10:49] <QueenVee>  somehow a series of 5.7+ quakes has been downgraded to one 4.5 quake on USGS
[10:49] <tex-at-work> good ole USGS
[10:50] <QueenVee> it's just getting absurd
[10:50] <Ogmios> how can they do that..ppl arent blind..they see that usgs cheats
[10:51] <QueenVee> ????
[10:51] <tex-at-work> well the average story sure doesn't hold water
[10:52] <QueenVee> yeah, and it's not like the other earthquake report sites are not legit....
[10:52] <tex-at-work> but i do think i used to have a teacher that averaged grades that way
[10:52] <QueenVee> lol
[10:52] <Ogmios> :)
[10:52] <MoonWolf> I'm sure it's only because the majority are oblivious as I was before coming on here. This is the first I've heard of this. So, I'm sure there are more like myself. I am thankful to know now.
[10:52] <QueenVee> when they started doing this a few weeks ago, it really freaked me out; because there is no other explanation for it except deliberate cover-up.... and that's scary.....
[10:53] <QueenVee> i mean, why would the US government want to cover up earthquake reports?
[10:54] <MoonWolf> They know something they think we "don't " know.
[10:54] <QueenVee> i'm highly skeptical about most govt conspiracy theories, but this seems pretty cut and dry to me....
[10:54] <tex-at-work> some of the quakes on emsc are the same quake from differant reporting stations
[10:55] <tex-at-work> and USGS thinks if they happen within a defined radius and time frame they count as only 1
[10:55] <QueenVee> which i could buy....
[10:56] <QueenVee> except that they only started to report them that way a few weeks ago
[10:56] <QueenVee> before that there was no difference between the sites
[10:56] <QueenVee> THAT's what i find disturbing
[10:56] <tex-at-work> oh i agree QV.. just makes for a better method of slanting the data
[10:57] <QueenVee> here's some other news that is potentially disturbing: You know that site called POLESHIF NEWS: http://wrightworld.net/poleshiftnews.htm .....
[10:58] <QueenVee> they guy's a Christian "end times" believer, but he puts out really excellent information.....
[10:58] <QueenVee> for several days now he hasn't updated his site (which he usually updates almost hourly).....
[10:58] <tex-at-work> yes I read that this morning about no more posts
[10:59] <QueenVee> and today the following notice appears now: No Updates Until Further Notice
[10:59] <tex-at-work> i hate that
[10:59] <QueenVee> hope he's not sick or something
[10:59] <QueenVee> it's certainly very odd
[11:01] <QueenVee> MoonWolf: are you still here?
[11:02] <MoonWolf> yes
[11:02] <MoonWolf> I'm still here.
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[11:02] <QueenVee> i'm going to have to go and do some work in a few minutes.... so i wanted to let you know this now:
[11:02] <QueenVee> do you know about nancy leider's zetatalk sessions in this channel on saturdays?
[11:02] <QueenVee> hello Boy
[11:02] <BoY> hell-o
[11:03] <MoonWolf> I was just thinking that it might not be a bad idea to mention this sudden USGS change to some highly visible folks like Art Bell.
[11:03] <QueenVee> mmm, except Art is retiring this week or next week.....
[11:03] <MoonWolf> No, I was not aware of Nancy's sessions. I've never joined one. Although, I certainly would love to do this.
[11:04] <QueenVee> if you would like to be on the mailing list for announcements about nancy's chats in here, give me your email address on a private channel
[11:04] <MoonWolf> ok.
[11:04] <QueenVee> it will be kept confidential and used only to send you notices
[11:05] <QueenVee> thanks, Moon
[11:05] <MoonWolf> thank you.
[11:05] <MoonWolf> Well, I must go for now. But, glad to see that there are people out here who have their eyes open.
[11:05] <MoonWolf> Thanks QV for everything.
[11:05] <MoonWolf> Look forward to a future visit here.
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[11:08] <QueenVee> well, i have to go for a bit. see ya'll later.
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[12:06] <BoY> :)
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[12:10] <monk> hi
[12:10] <BoY> hiya
[12:14] <tex-at-work> anything going on with you monk
[12:15] <tex-at-work> how much snow did you get Boy
[12:16] <monk> nothing
[12:16] <BoY> 6"
[12:16] <tex-at-work> sorry about that monk... another boring day?
[12:17] <tex-at-work> that's good BoY... is it still there or melted already
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[12:17] <BoY> melting away
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[12:17] <alex-away> hi
[12:17] <BoY> 33 degrees sunnie
[12:19] <monk> not a boring day its pretty fun on the computer
[12:22] * Ralf is back: hi (gone!14h 29m 25s) : os-2/bx
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[12:28] <Danvaldan> hi all
[12:28] <Danvaldan> <><><><><><>
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[12:49] <scooby-afk> QV: any chance you could post a link to that cat's site?  the link I got earlier isn't working
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[12:49] <scooby> http://www.wrightworld.net/poleshiftnews.htm
[12:49] <scooby> Page cannot be displayed
[12:49] <QueenVee> hello scooby
[12:49] <scooby> hi
[12:50] <QueenVee> hold on
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[12:50] <QueenVee> hello shaman
[12:50] <Shaman464> hi queen
[12:51] <Shaman464> anyone here been to poleshiftprepare.com?
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[12:51] <QueenVee> Scooby: that is very distressing
[12:52] <QueenVee> earlier today Wright's site said "No updates until further notice".....
[12:52] <QueenVee> and now you can't even access the site
[12:52] <tied2> what site ? whats the scoop?
[12:53] <QueenVee> hi tied
[12:53] <tied2>   «««««««««««« H e l l o  »»»»»»»»»»»»
[12:53] <QueenVee> we're talking about POLESHIFT NEWS...
[12:53] <QueenVee> this is the address: http://www.wrightworld.net/poleshiftnews.htm
[12:53] <tied2> oh what about it?
[12:53] <tex-at-work> QV I sent you an email about what sherwood thought was going on with that site
[12:53] <scooby> hmmm....
[12:54] <QueenVee> well, the guy who runs it usually updates the site really regularly, like every hour practically....
[12:54] <scooby> please share tex...
[12:54] <QueenVee> but hasn't been the last week or so.....
[12:54] <QueenVee> earlier today the site said "No updates until further notice" and now you can't even access the site
[12:54] <tied2> it wont even come up
[12:54] <QueenVee> tex: yeah, i saw what Sherwood said
[12:55] <tex-at-work> scooby: pressure being put on them by the PTB at this time
[12:55] <QueenVee> if Wright had some history of being harassed because of his site, i might give his theory credence.... but otherwise, it could be anything.... he could be sick.... who knows?
[12:55] <tied2> PTB?
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[12:56] <QueenVee> it certainly is very strange and sudden
[12:56] <Shaman464> http://www.poleshiftprepare.com/
[12:56] <tex-at-work> powers that be
[12:56] <QueenVee> he has such a following, you'd think if there was a normal reason, like illness, he'd put up a notice letting people know....
[12:56] <tied2> it was a good site
[12:57] <QueenVee> hello Sleth
[12:57] <QueenVee> yes, a very good site
[12:57] <tex-at-work> brb
[12:57] <QueenVee> despite the Christian End Times slant
[12:57] <sleth> hello qv
[12:58] <QueenVee> how are things in Arizona, sleth?
[12:58] <sleth> nice
[12:58] <sleth> and up north
[12:58] <QueenVee> snowy
[12:58] <QueenVee> cold
[12:58] <QueenVee> but otherwise nice
[12:59] <sleth> i bet very cold
[12:59] <QueenVee> not unusually cold though
[12:59] <sleth> nancy was on art huh qv
[13:00] <QueenVee> yep
[13:00] <sleth> did you like it
[13:01] <QueenVee> well, i've heard her many times.... it was the usual thing....
[13:02] <QueenVee> nothing new for those who have been following her work, but a good intro for newbies
[13:02] <sleth> oh
[13:02] <QueenVee> you?
[13:02] <scooby> QV: maybe he didn't pay the bill or the server went down...
[13:02] <scooby> these are also possibilities
[13:03] <sleth> i thought it was interesting
[13:03] <scooby> or, maybe he decided to get outside and do stuff while the weather is ok and not spend so much time on the 'puter
[13:03] <scooby> but, yes, it is very disturbing
[13:03] <scooby> got an email foir him?
[13:03] <QueenVee> scooby: yes, could be anything, though, again, the lack of explanation from someone who has kept his site up so diligently, is very strange....
[13:04] <QueenVee> nope, no email
[13:04] <QueenVee> sleth: glad you enjoyed it. was that the first time you'd heard nancy interviewed?
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[13:04] <QueenVee> howdy raincity
[13:04] <raincity> hey there.
[13:04] <sleth> one other time before
[13:05] <sleth> i have to go but i ll be back in a few   
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[13:07] <scooby> tex: thanks for the explanation
[13:07] <scooby> QV: right, very odd
[13:07] <scooby> maybe he is moving servers????
[13:07] <scooby> anyway, i gotta go get some diapers
[13:07] <scooby> not for me tho...
[13:07] <QueenVee> again, someone who wants to keep his audience would just let people know that
[13:07] <scooby> :)
[13:07] <QueenVee> ha
[13:07] <scooby> right...
[13:07] <scooby> bbl
[13:07] <Shaman464> bye
[13:08] <Shaman464> 159
[13:08] <Shaman464>  day
[13:09] <Shaman464> days*
[13:09] <Shaman464> until the shift
[13:09] <QueenVee> yep
[13:10] <Shaman464> and theres so much to do!
[13:12] <Shaman464> so what are you gunna miss the most queen?
[13:14] <QueenVee> mmmmm, dunno
[13:14] <BoY> i'm goona miss toilet paper
[13:14] <QueenVee> good food and drink
[13:14] <Shaman464> stock up boy
[13:15] <Shaman464> im gunna miss my friends
[13:16] <Shaman464> and family
[13:16] <Shaman464> well, i need to go, bye
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[13:35] <scooby> back
[13:35] <scooby> settle down you gize
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[13:44] <Ummite> hello all
[13:47] <QueenVee> hello ummite
[13:53] <scooby> ok ppl, settle down
[13:53] <scooby> i gotta run to work...
[13:53] <scooby> l8r
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[14:25] <Ummite> anyone in here?
[14:25] <Ummite> bbl
[14:25] <Ummite> see ya
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[14:55] <obany> hi queenvee
[14:56] <QueenVee> hi obany
[14:56] <QueenVee> how goes it?
[14:56] <obany> watched a movie, so just came back online ... and i liked the movie ...
[14:56] <obany> watched it on DVD
[14:56] <QueenVee> what was the movie?
[14:56] <obany> dragonfly
[14:58] <obany> any interresting discussions here earlier on or ?
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[15:00] <QueenVee> no, it's been very quiet
[15:00] <QueenVee> except for a strange episode with zetapal
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[15:08] <monk> hi bailey
[15:09] <Bailey> hi monk
[15:09] <QueenVee> hi Bailey -- it's only friday
[15:09] <Bailey> have you been watching the taken shows
[15:09] <Bailey> LOL queen, how are you feeling
[15:09] <QueenVee> no, i don't get the channel
[15:09] <QueenVee> i've had a nasty headache all afternoon, which is just easing up now
[15:10] <Bailey> are you able to lift yet?
[15:11] <QueenVee> yes
[15:11] <Bailey> I am pretty sick about the firing of ONeill
[15:11] <QueenVee> ONeill?
[15:12] <Bailey> he came out public with abolishing the ilegal federal reserve. He was our financial head guy
[15:12] <QueenVee> i see
[15:12] <obany> QueenVee: just don't try to focus that much on the headache, it might help altough i don't know you of course
[15:12] <Bailey> it is like having your right arm cut off
[15:14] <QueenVee> well, the bad guys have got it all sewn up...
[15:14] <QueenVee> the good guys don't stand a chance
[15:14] <Bailey> sniffle, so true
[15:15] <QueenVee> i've dealt with a lot of corruption in my professional life, and it is really sickening and insidious
[15:16] <Bailey> one lady came out today to inform us she reported a few to the FBI for terrorist activity for telling the truth about the federal resever, I asked her if she got her thirty pieces of silver
[15:16] <QueenVee> christ
[15:16] <Bailey> it is a judas jab
[15:16] <Bailey> she said I am going to tell them all a know
[15:17] <QueenVee> why? what was her motivation?
[15:17] <Bailey> the christian ricke, riche, how ever you spell nazi nark
[15:19] <QueenVee> yeah, put her type together with all of the "good" people who stand by and do nothing, who don't want to "get involved"....
[15:20] <Bailey> and destroy everyone who tries
[15:20] <QueenVee> exactly
[15:20] <QueenVee> i've been there
[15:20] <QueenVee> i know the pattern
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[15:21] <QueenVee> most people are only interested in their own personal short-term benefit
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[15:21] <QueenVee> few have the ability to see the larger picture
[15:22] <QueenVee> hello shaman
[15:22] <Shaman464> hi queen
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[15:24] <obany> QueenVee: awakened ones .. people who see the sings of what is coming and recognize them
[15:25] <Bailey> I feel bad about the koolaid sham stuff sense i brought up the issue, but at least nancy dealt with the issue well and it was an open matter of record the other site was an abvious lie
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[15:25] <Bailey> obvious
[15:26] <QueenVee> small stuff
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[15:26] <Bailey> yep, I have been hearing thoes koolaid jokes for a few years and did not get it untill now
[15:27] <Bailey> I sure can be slow and nieve some times
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[15:46] <scooby> hello
[15:46] <Shaman464> hi
[15:47] <Shaman464> there a session with nancy tomorrow?
[15:47] <Bailey> hi
[15:47] <QueenVee> yep
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[15:47] <obany> Yes there is shaman64
[15:47] <QueenVee> hello LeXar
[15:48] <LeXar> Hello
[15:48] <LeXar> How are you all doing?
[15:49] <Shaman464> great
[15:49] <QueenVee> good -- not seen you here before -- what brings you to this room?
[15:50] <Shaman464> lexar?
[15:50] <LeXar> wait
[15:50] <LeXar> I'll type what I have to, sometimes I'm not that fast of a typer
[15:51] <LeXar> well...... let's just say were a bunch of good guys trying to survive Planet X
[15:51] <LeXar> we are of no harm
[15:51] <QueenVee> "we"?
[15:51] <LeXar> I'm presently alone, but I speak for my friends :P
[15:51] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[15:51] <Shaman464> been to Zetatalk?
[15:52] <LeXar> yup
[15:52] <LeXar> around october 2002
[15:52] <monk> he came to t_t and i told him to come here
[15:52] <LeXar> no wait... 2001
[15:52] <LeXar> sorry about that
[15:52] <Bailey> ok about a year now
[15:53] <LeXar> yes.... and now we are really starting to make some preparations...
[15:53] <QueenVee> where do you live, LeXar?
[15:53] <Bailey> who are the friends you speak for ?
[15:53] <LeXar> Quebec City
[15:53] <QueenVee> ah, salut
[15:53] <QueenVee> je suis a Toronto
[15:54] <LeXar> we are about a small group of 30 young men (ranging from 18 to 20)
[15:54] <Shaman464> 30?!
[15:54] <Bailey> kool, I have two lovely daughters well trained in survival hehehehe
[15:54] <LeXar> yeah we're about 30 in these locals aware of the pole shift and preparing
[15:54] <QueenVee> that's great
[15:54] <Shaman464> ive got 8
[15:55] <LeXar> I'm barely trained... I read a lot on survival since about a month
[15:55] <QueenVee> what are you doing to prepare?
[15:55] <Bailey> eight daughters lollololol
[15:55] <Shaman464> no, in my group
[15:55] <LeXar> guys... I have to attain supper right now..... we will probably talk again soon
[15:55] <Bailey> oh
[15:55] <Bailey> LOL
[15:55] <LeXar> I will be back thought, count on me
[15:55] <LeXar> bye
[15:55] <QueenVee> k
[15:55] <Shaman464> ok, bye lexar
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[15:58] <Shaman464> hi kindred
[15:58] <kindred> Shamanhows my brotha  from another matha
[15:59] <Shaman464> lol, good, you
[15:59] <kindred> oh just peachy
[15:59] <Bailey> i need to bow, wow out, bye guys, be nice :o)
[15:59] <kindred> see ya bailey
[15:59] <Bailey> bye dear
[15:59] <scooby> bye
[16:00] <Shaman464> bye
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[16:00] <Shaman464> wow, 30 is ALOT of people
[16:00] <QueenVee> mmmmm
[16:00] <kindred> 30?
[16:00] <scooby> and youngens to
[16:01] <QueenVee> but they only just learned of the shift, i doubt they've actually done much to prepare yet
[16:01] <kindred> here you mean?
[16:01] <Shaman464> a guy came in here telling us about a surival group of 30 young men
[16:01] <kindred> ohhhhhhhh
[16:01] <QueenVee> oh, no, that's not right
[16:01] <kindred> well it is something to report antway
[16:01] <QueenVee> he said they've known for a year
[16:01] <QueenVee> my mistake
[16:02] <kindred> I would do the same but everyone I tell about just laughs
[16:02] <QueenVee> i'd be interested to know what they have planned
[16:02] <kindred> I even leave out the alien angle
[16:02] <Shaman464> thats a little big for my taste
[16:03] <Shaman464> the less you have the easier it is
[16:04] <kindred> yeah but remeber strength in #'s
[16:04] <monk> mass prayer
[16:04] <Shaman464> but, its harder to keep a low profile
[16:04] <Shaman464> you need to keep a low profile
[16:04] <kindred> wont need one if you have a strong  group
[16:04] <kindred> a low profile that is
[16:05] <QueenVee> there are pros and cons to both scenarios
[16:05] <Shaman464> but you ever been in a room with 30 young men?
[16:05] <kindred> the smaller you are the more low I would think you would have to be
[16:06] <Shaman464> thats why my group has more women, they keep a leave head about things
[16:06] <kindred> who would dare approach a group like that
[16:06] <Shaman464> people with guns?
[16:07] <Shaman464> level*
[16:07] <kindred> wel if you want conflick after all that will happen thier will always be someone wanting it
[16:07] * obany going now, to bed that is... bye bye
[16:07] <kindred> gonna be a lot of angry people
[16:07] <kindred> Bye Obany
[16:07] <Shaman464> bye
[16:08] <kindred> desperate people
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[16:09] <Shaman464> im just saying nancy says keep a low profile
[16:09] <Shaman464> and 30 is a bit much
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[16:10] <kindred> She is the one that has the answers
[16:10] <kindred> best to listen I guess
[16:10] <Shaman464> makes it alot easier
[16:11] <kindred> hey Queen
[16:11] <QueenVee> yes?
[16:12] <kindred> Where can I find info on any expected military movement close to the shift
[16:12] <kindred> like just prior
[16:12] <Shaman464> im thinkin about joining up just before
[16:12] <kindred> the military
[16:12] <Shaman464> yea
[16:13] <QueenVee> kindred: sorry, i dont understand your question
[16:13] <kindred> why
[16:13] <kindred> ok
[16:13] <kindred> ummm
[16:13] <Shaman464> well, ill go AWOL just before, i would have a gun
[16:13] <kindred> will thier be any military blockades or such prior to the PS
[16:13] <Shaman464> are you in the US or CA?
[16:13] <kindred> CA
[16:14] <Shaman464> i doubt it
[16:14] <QueenVee> why would there be military blockades?
[16:14] <Shaman464> now in the us.....
[16:14] <kindred> try to control people
[16:15] <kindred> prevent them from moving about
[16:15] <Shaman464> well, im going by foot, makes it easier to keep a low profile by foot
[16:15] <QueenVee> well, ZT says that such attempts at control will not work, even if they are planned, because military personnel will be leaving their posts and not cooperating
[16:15] <kindred> like marshal law I guess
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[16:16] <Shaman464> hi monk
[16:16] <monk> hi
[16:17] <kindred> Monk good to see you
[16:17] <QueenVee> kindred: you want to read the GOVERNMENT section of zetatalk
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[16:17] <kindred> ok
[16:17] <Keats> hi all
[16:17] <kindred> merci
[16:17] <kindred> Keats
[16:17] <kindred> hey
[16:17] <kindred>  whos keats
[16:17] <Keats> just me =)
[16:17] <kindred> whats up
[16:18] <kindred> besides the odd mother ship snd such
[16:18] <Keats> is this the channel where Nancy does her zetatalk sessions?
[16:18] <QueenVee> hello Keats
[16:18] <QueenVee> yes, on saturdays
[16:18] <Shaman464> are you new here?
[16:18] <Keats> yep
[16:19] <Shaman464> introduce yourself, maybe?
[16:19] <QueenVee> kindred: i believe there's some additional information in the What's New sectin as well
[16:19] <QueenVee> Keats: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[16:19] <Keats> ummm, well, I'm keats, Im interested in Nancy and her Zeta buddies...
[16:19] <Keats> since 11/26 I think
[16:19] <QueenVee> not very long
[16:20] <Shaman464> this year?
[16:20] <scooby> he/she her Coast to Coast too!
[16:20] <Keats> since her interview with George Norry
[16:20] <Keats> yes, not too long ago, I think it was the 26th
[16:20] <scooby> that's the one i heard
[16:20] <Keats> been poking around the website, and have written Nancy, but
[16:20] <Keats> this is first time on the chat channel
[16:20] <QueenVee> how seriously are you taking the poleshift?
[16:21] <Keats> hmmm, well, I think Nancy is serious, and I think she has a lot of credibility
[16:21] <Keats> but Im not moving yet or storing water or buying distilling equipment just yet
[16:21] <scooby> me either....
[16:21] <scooby> not sure if i wanna stick it out or not....
[16:22] <scooby> i'm waffling
[16:22] <Keats> I will try if I start to see more evidence, like if theres a big red ball over my head
[16:22] <Keats> when I walk outside
[16:22] <Shaman464> i am procastanting
[16:23] <Keats> I hear that, wish I had access to an obervatory
[16:23] <kindred> I became aware at the same time Keats
[16:23] <kindred> listened to the same show as you
[16:23] <QueenVee> well, we can't provide you with the evidence; that's in zetatalk
[16:23] <Keats> was a great interview
[16:23] <Keats> one thing that makes me really interested...
[16:23] <kindred> did the same things by starting to snoop around her web site
[16:23] <Keats> Nancy is giving all the info away for free
[16:24] <Keats> theres a book, but theres plenty of info on the website
[16:24] <Keats> so not like shes trying to get rich
[16:24] <Shaman464> i own the book
[16:24] <Keats> How is it?
[16:25] <Keats> I live in California, wanted to contact Luxan, but his mailbox is full...
[16:25] <Keats> probably a lot of that going on since that coast to coast interview
[16:25] <QueenVee> Luxan?
[16:25] <Keats> yeah, he is putting dome shaped living quarters together in Redding, CA
[16:26] <Keats> so I wrote to ask why California?  Sounds like it wont be safe here, suggested Oregon
[16:26] <Shaman464> glug glug, hope he can swim
[16:26] <Keats> but Redding is up north, so he may be ok
[16:26] <scooby> hey who is ringer?
[16:26] <Keats> I, on the other hand, am living around SF, CA
[16:26] <Keats> which means if I stay, Im gonna get wet
[16:27] <monk> Redding california huh ?
[16:27] <monk> I been up that way last summer
[16:27] <Keats> yeah, its on the website
[16:27] <monk> on my way to mt shasta
[16:27] <Keats> oh man, always wanted to check out mt. shasta
[16:27] <monk> Thats when I first listened to nancy on artball was in redding califonria
[16:27] <monk> I was behind this bank
[16:28] <monk> near the bus station
[16:28] <monk> listening to her hehe didn't have no place to stay
[16:28] <Keats> listening to her in your car?
[16:28] <scooby> that's how i heard it
[16:29] <monk> no on my protiable radio
[16:29] <monk> I was on foot going to mt shasta
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[16:29] <LeXar> Hello
[16:29] <Keats> S! Lexar
[16:29] <LeXar> S! ?
[16:30] <Keats> oop...err, sorry force of habit, that's wwiionline lingo for Salute, hi Lexar
[16:30] <monk> there is alot of ufo activity near mt shasta
[16:30] <LeXar> alright, 'will remember
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[16:31] <Keats> any of you guys made "the call" and  had experiences with the zetas?
[16:31] <LeXar> Well I just came back from a welcoming supper... felt good enough
[16:31] <LeXar> no.. I'd wish to savour a moment if I could... I guess they dont care about me
[16:32] <LeXar> fact of life I suppose
[16:32] <Keats> yeah, Ive had no contact that I recall either
[16:33] <Keats> afk for a bit
[16:33] <LeXar> the only thing I've got is green/blue hands, call them whatever you want
[16:33] <LeXar> alright
[16:34] <QueenVee> what does that mean?
[16:34] <scooby> yeah...
[16:35] <LeXar> hands who sooth pain...
[16:35] <scooby> lol
[16:35] <scooby> i thought it was something on ZT that i hadn't heard about...
[16:35] <LeXar> nah
[16:35] <LeXar> I'll probably be the one asking the msot questions
[16:35] <QueenVee> LeXar: tell us more aobut this group of yours; what have you done to prepare thus far?
[16:37] <LeXar> QV: not much ... the only thing we DO possess that relate directly to the cataclysm was the purchase of medieval weapons, for protection..... we've considered arms that do not require any ammo a must for protection, and value
[16:37] <LeXar> We've also tried to select a safe location
[16:37] <LeXar> but without true success
[16:37] <scooby> how did you become aware?
[16:38] <LeXar> snow invaded the land about a month ago... so exploration for a safe spot now is pretty dim of an option...
[16:38] <QueenVee> LeXar: have you at least put together a plan....?
[16:38] <LeXar> one of my friends was part of this group, he saw my potential I guess...
[16:38] <LeXar> we did, sort of...
[16:39] <LeXar> we range from 18 to 20 years old... I guess we lack structure in our organisations
[16:39] <QueenVee> sounds that way
[16:39] <Shaman464> my group is 16-18 and we have an exstenive plan
[16:39] <LeXar> I know my orientation as a servie to others, without a doubt...
[16:41] <LeXar> our major worry is to find an acceptable shelter
[16:41] <Shaman464> a trench
[16:41] <Shaman464> with a sod-wood cover
[16:41] <LeXar> but, the rocky nature of Canada's background is an interesting background
[16:42] <Shaman464> i live in Michigan
[16:42] <LeXar> I used to live in New York
[16:42] <Shaman464> so i dont know anything about that
[16:42] <Shaman464> we have great soil for farming and diging
[16:42] <LeXar> well the aftermath will prove that Quebec will be an interesting area to live in...
[16:43] <LeXar> We won't
[16:43] <Shaman464> michigan is said to be a great area
[16:43] <LeXar> not in the immediate tme follwing the cataclysm
[16:43] <LeXar> Our biggest goal is to head down towards Alaska...
[16:43] <Shaman464> well, not near the shores of the lakes, but where im at ill be fine
[16:44] <LeXar> that's a whopping 5000 miles
[16:44] <LeXar> but our team is all about exploration...
[16:44] <Shaman464> what about food?
[16:44] <Shaman464> water>
[16:44] <LeXar> issues that are everyone's concern...
[16:44] <Shaman464> the name of the game just after is basic surival
[16:45] <QueenVee> LeXar: where will you get the money for equipment and supplies?
[16:45] <LeXar> without resorting to canibalism, I know...
[16:45] <Shaman464> queen, i have 3000 dallors for suppiles and food, will that be enough?
[16:46] <QueenVee> Shaman: that's better than nothing
[16:46] <LeXar> We'll manage slighty more more...
[16:46] <Shaman464> true =)
[16:46] <QueenVee> how will you manage more, Lexar?
[16:46] <LeXar> combine our financial efforts
[16:46] <QueenVee> what efforts are those? do you have jobs?
[16:47] <LeXar> yup
[16:47] <LeXar> just took a second second......
[16:47] <LeXar> I wish to save as much as I can
[16:48] <Shaman464> a money goal you have?
[16:48] <QueenVee> i think an aim to save as much as possible is a good money goal
[16:48] <LeXar> not any specific goal..... but it should be something interesting...
[16:48] <LeXar> yeah
[16:48] <Shaman464> ill take out a loan, whos qunna collect after eh?
[16:49] <Shaman464> gunna*
[16:49] <QueenVee> that's a good idea, shaman, if you qualify for a loan
[16:49] <QueenVee> i've gotten a whole bunch of credit cards and lines of credit over the last few months....
[16:49] <Shaman464> i have a few in my groups who could take a sudent loan
[16:49] <Keats> Shaman that's actually a really good thought
[16:49] <Shaman464> student*
[16:50] <LeXar> true
[16:50] <LeXar> I'm about the receive a whopping 1500 in student loans
[16:50] <Shaman464> hell, whos gunna care if they get there money back, theyll be dead
[16:50] <Keats> do any of you know Nancy personally?
[16:50] <Keats> either dead or wont care about money, how would you even pay it back?
[16:51] <LeXar> Keats, not me
[16:51] <Shaman464> i hate to do it, buts its survial
[16:51] <Keats> Ive seen that Oregon actually looks like a good place to be, anyone have any other
[16:51] <Keats> ideas?
[16:51] <LeXar> but I'm curious about just one thing concerning the cataclysm.....
[16:51] <Keats> Shaman I dont see it as bad at all
[16:52] <LeXar> the ashes produced from the cataclsym...
[16:52] <QueenVee> Keats: the best source of location information is on the zetatalk site
[16:52] <LeXar> respiratory problem are of deep concern
[16:52] <Keats> yeah, have looked through it
[16:52] <QueenVee> http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[16:53] <Keats> it actually mentions vancouver as a good spot as well, even though its on the coast
[16:53] <QueenVee> LeXar: what's the question?
[16:53] <Keats> just wondering if there are any other good spots that I havent seen yet
[16:53] <QueenVee> Keats: not during the shift itself -- rough ride
[16:53] <Keats> yeah, have to move east to the mountains
[16:54] <Keats> anyone here an even semi-serious astronomer that has seen the planet?
[16:55] <Shaman464> i dont have to, i place my trust in nancy that its there
[16:55] <LeXar> I didn't quite understand anything about the dust that will clog the Earth in the following of the cataclysm... I don't even know (even if we survive the passage) if the dust will get us after if you know what I mean
[16:55] <Keats> the site does mention that sunlight will be severely limited
[16:55] <QueenVee> no, don't know what you mean, can you be more specific?
[16:55] <Keats> not sure about the breathability of the air
[16:56] <LeXar> hehe, it's a mystery to know where SHE'LL be during the catastrophe
[16:56] <QueenVee> she'll be in Wisconsin, where she lives
[16:56] <Shaman464> wisconson
[16:56] <Shaman464> wisconsin*
[16:56] <Keats> I know wisconsin will be warm after the shift...
[16:57] <Keats> but its still wisconsin! ack!
[16:57] <LeXar> will the air be breathable... will the Earth be covered with THAT much ash from the city, volcanoes, and PPlanet X?
[16:57] <QueenVee> the air will be breathable
[16:57] <LeXar> I plan to convince my friends to settle down to the U.S.
[16:57] <LeXar> I miss my roots...
[16:57] <Keats> Lex, our moon is 240k miles away...planet X will come no closer than 14 mil miles
[16:57] <Keats> according to the Zetas
[16:58] <Shaman464> i thought it was 70,000,000
[16:58] <LeXar> Holy .....
[16:58] <QueenVee> the volcanic ash will primarily effect the upper atompshere
[16:58] <LeXar> 14 miles.....
[16:58] <Keats> not according to my research (only web research) after Nancy said Planet X will come
[16:58] <Keats> within 14 million miles
[16:58] <Shaman464> queen?
[16:58] <LeXar> I think I read that north America will be opposite to the sun
[16:59] <QueenVee> 14 million miles
[16:59] <Shaman464> no, itll be in dawn right before
[16:59] <LeXar> lolllll  ... not the same thing
[16:59] <Keats> hmmm well, Nancy, although specific on the date says that it may be shortly after
[16:59] <Keats> but we should be in safe places by the 15th anyways
[16:59] <LeXar> I must admit... I'm happy we are not the only ones here (in quebec city) who believe and are preparing..
[16:59] <QueenVee> most of North American will experience The Long Dawn; the eastern coast will experience the Long Day
[17:00] <LeXar> well my birthday is may 16th... I'll be starting a new diary in the ashes of a new world
[17:00] <Shaman464> thats a new birthday present
[17:00] <Shaman464> nice*
[17:00] <Keats> wow Lex!
[17:00] <Shaman464> not new
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[17:01] <Shaman464> well, gotta run, my sister wants on the computer
[17:02] <QueenVee> bye Shaman
[17:02] <QueenVee> hi zetapal
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[17:02] <Zetapal> Hi
[17:02] <LeXar> hi there
[17:02] <QueenVee> Keats: where did you say you live?
[17:02] <Keats> SF, CA
[17:02] <Keats> or thereabouts
[17:03] <LeXar> that's an unsafe location, is it not?
[17:03] <Keats> yeah, Im dead if I stay
[17:03] <QueenVee> Zetapal: Keats and LeXar are new here, in California and Quebec City respectively
[17:03] <Zetapal> Carrier Fleet Leaves US
[17:03] <QueenVee> Zetapal is in Virgnia
[17:03] <Zetapal> http://www.rense.com/general32/pos.htm
[17:03] <Keats> but its hard to give up my life and move without seeing something
[17:04] <Zetapal> say good-bye to the U.S. aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman and its battle group
[17:04] <Keats> once the planet becomes visible to the naked eye, Ill start looking to move
[17:04] <Zetapal> The 8,000 sailors aboard the 12 vessels in the Truman group knew they were sailing into waters that would be anything but calm. Although the Truman was leaving on what was officially labeled a routine six-month deployment, the mood on the Navy piers varied from "anxious" to "pumped."
[17:04] <QueenVee> Keats & LeXar: if you would like to be on the mailing list for announcements about nancy's zetatalk sessions in this channel, just give me your email address on a private channel
[17:04] <LeXar> we may get some adults into the survival plan, certain of our fathers... with much greater experience in survival... that would be a must for our team
[17:05] <LeXar> QV: both ends of North America
[17:06] <Zetapal> a routine 6 month deployment? let's see that puts then back here at the end of May 2003 - hmm if this thing goes down - we may never see them again...say goodbye
[17:06] <QueenVee> zp: yes....
[17:08] <Keats> ZP that rense article you put up, was that concerning the carrier group?
[17:08] <Zetapal> yes Keats
[17:08] <Keats> I dont want to kick on the link and risk getting booted from the chat
[17:08] <scooby> you wont
[17:09] <scooby> it opens in seperate window
[17:09] <scooby> even in web chat
[17:09] <Zetapal> just right click it
[17:09] <scooby> double click it
[17:09] <Keats> neither right nor double click are working
[17:10] <Zetapal> you have to look through your IRC client programs options menu and enable url tracking or something like it
[17:10] <Keats> rgr, im just using the web
[17:11] <tied2> zp check your pm
[17:11] <Keats> there was an article on rense's site the other day about the homeland security act...
[17:12] <Keats> that ties in nicely with what Nancy is saying
[17:12] <Zetapal> oh well the nevermind - cut and paste the link into another browser window - just open up another browser window
[17:12] <LeXar> man I'm so happy I didn't the Army National guard!!!
[17:12] <LeXar> join
[17:12] <Keats> The article points more towards world domination, but it works for Nancy's theory too
[17:12] <Keats> cant grab it, will have to type it
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[17:13] <LeXar> you guys really think there will be riots of people trying to kill others so much?
[17:13] <QueenVee> hello liquidheart -- what brings you to this room?
[17:13] <Keats> errrrr, ok the reason it wouldnt open...is because I had already opened it
[17:13] <liquidheart> hello.i've been following zetatalk and the irc chats for a while now
[17:13] <QueenVee> how long is a while?
[17:14] <Keats> Lexar, have you read a novel called "The Postman" by David Brin?
[17:14] <liquidheart> for a couple years
[17:14] <QueenVee> what part of the world do you live in liquidheart?
[17:14] <liquidheart> usa
[17:15] <LeXar> Keats, unfortunately
[17:15] <Keats> I think its a pretty good study of the psychology of a post-apocalyptic event
[17:15] <QueenVee> liquidheart: which state?
[17:15] <liquidheart> NJ
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[17:15] <Keats> wb monk
[17:15] <QueenVee> not a great place to be
[17:16] <monk> Hi
[17:16] <liquidheart> yes i know :\
[17:16] <QueenVee> liquidheart: how seriously are you taking the poleshift -- are you preparing?
[17:16] <Keats> QueenVee, where are you? and are you there because of what you learned in Zetatalk?
[17:17] <QueenVee> i relocated from Toronto to my hometown of London, Ontario
[17:17] <Keats> because of Zetatalk or for personal reasons?
[17:17] <liquidheart> just trying to learn all i can from the site and other people
[17:17] <Keats> me too liquidheart
[17:17] <LeXar> oh really? then we are somewhat close
[17:17] <QueenVee> both -- currently staying with my mother while she recovers from an illness, but will be on my cousin's farm about 40 miles from here at the time of the shift
[17:18] <LeXar> we might meet in the after world
[17:18] <Keats> does he have a well?
[17:18] <Keats> or she?
[17:18] <QueenVee> she -- no, but a small river nearby
[17:18] <Keats> good source of water, have your destiller?
[17:18] <LeXar> same thing were... it shows were all a little scared...
[17:19] <LeXar> Ontario will be a great location to live in after the cataclysm
[17:19] <Keats> err distiller even
[17:19] <QueenVee> plan for a distiller -- yes, the location is good
[17:19] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O
[17:19] <Keats> Im a sucker for the ocean, hope it doesnt get me killed
[17:21] <QueenVee> Keats: obviously you will get killed if you are anywhere near an ocean at the time of the shift
[17:21] <Keats> yeah =(
[17:21] <Keats> what is it? 80 miles in and 200 ft up?
[17:21] <Zetapal> more
[17:22] <Keats> doh
[17:22] <Zetapal> well for east coast its like 150 miles in and 800 ft absl
[17:23] <Keats> I wonder how paniced people will get when they see a huge red ball in the sky
[17:23] <Keats> wouldnt be suprised if they impose martial law
[17:23] <Keats> really have to think about this
[17:23] <Zetapal> but might be different for west coast - check the safe locations document on ZT main page
[17:23] <QueenVee> ZT says it won't happen
[17:23] <QueenVee> martial law
[17:23] <LeXar> we'll be long gone...
[17:23] <Keats> really?  hmm
[17:23] <LeXar> We honestly hope to meet up with fellow good citizens who survived the blow...
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[17:23] <Keats> I should be able to delay til around the beginning of may then easily
[17:24] <QueenVee> the soldiers who would carry out martial law will desert their posts to look after their own families
[17:24] <LeXar> we'd like to participate in joint communities
[17:24] <Keats> QueenVee have they said if there will be a mass panic before the event?
[17:25] <LeXar> most assuredly...
[17:25] <QueenVee> no, no mass panic
[17:25] <Keats> that is so ODD, hard to fathom
[17:25] <QueenVee> most will be in denial right up until the end
[17:25] <LeXar> with the entire Earth shaking
[17:25] <LeXar> nonsens
[17:25] <LeXar> nonsense
[17:25] <QueenVee> the question was BEFORE the event
[17:25] <QueenVee> not DURING the event
[17:26] <Keats> even now, its hard for me to imagine leaving my home
[17:26] <LeXar> sorry
[17:26] <LeXar> same here...
[17:26] <Keats> but if I see a huge red ball in the sky, im heading for the hills
[17:26] <LeXar> heheh, that's the same saying I've got coiled up
[17:26] <QueenVee> ZT says some -- especially those on the coast -- will pack up and head for the coast, but they will be in the minority
[17:27] <QueenVee> er, head for the hills
[17:27] <Keats> head FOR the coast??
[17:27] <QueenVee> not the coast
[17:27] <Keats> ahh
[17:27] <LeXar> I'll be back in 5 min. have to check something downstairs...
[17:27] <LeXar> brb
[17:28] <Keats> my life is such a mess professionally right now, it doesnt seem hard given eminent disaster
[17:28] <QueenVee> Zetapal: was Virginia hit by the recent storms?
[17:28] <Keats> PA got 9 inches of snow
[17:30] <liquidheart> yeah i'm near philly...8 inches here
[17:30] <Keats> my parents and my brother and his family live there...
[17:30] <Keats> no way will I convince them to leave
[17:30] <Zetapal> yes Queen we got about 8 inches but most of it melted today - the whole South got hit by this storm in fact I have a news posting on the unusual size of this storm - covered much more landmass than usual
[17:30] <Zetapal> stanby for link..
[17:31] <Keats> link?
[17:32] <QueenVee> Zetapal: any comments on the website?
[17:32] <QueenVee> Kindred: are you still here?
[17:32] <kindred> yep
[17:32] <Zetapal> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/message/11705
[17:32] <Keats> scooby why do you have scooby and scooby-afk both logged in?
[17:32] <LeXar> well, in Quebec we only had an inch of snow
[17:33] <kindred> just been surfing different links concerning the shift
[17:33] <QueenVee> kindred: i note that i don't have you on the mailing list yet; if you want to be on it, give me your email address on a private channel...
[17:33] <QueenVee> thanks for the link zp
[17:34] <Zetapal> yeah Queen the website looks fine - but the top banner needs to be much bigger if possible
[17:34] <QueenVee> thanks kindred and keats
[17:34] <Keats> cc
[17:34] <QueenVee> zp: fer sure, ralf's gonna work on it
[17:34] <Zetapal> cool
[17:35] <Keats> 90% die off, sheesh
[17:35] <QueenVee> zp: needs lots more work yet, but it's a start
[17:35] <Keats> youd think the jerks in govt would try to prepare to save more than just their own butts
[17:35] <Zetapal> fiddling with DCC settings gonna try and send you a pic queen...
[17:36] <QueenVee> why would we think that?
[17:36] <Keats> Well, I would think it, they have the info, they have the power to do things quietly
[17:36] <Keats> they have money, and they should have the will to serve the country
[17:36] <Keats> and the more that survive, the better the chances to reestablish some kind of society
[17:37] <Keats> at least thats how I see it
[17:37] <QueenVee> you are under the mistaken impression that the US government is there to serve the people; when it fact it is there to serve the elite
[17:37] <QueenVee> so the elite are looking after themselves
[17:37] <Keats> yeah =(
[17:38] <Keats> funny thing is, by not thinking bigger, they're going to end up hurting themselves imho
[17:38] <kindred> would things been any different had Gore won the election
[17:38] <QueenVee> Keats: yes, you're right; but they are deluded
[17:39] <Keats> imho, Gore is a statesman more than a politician
[17:39] <LeXar> after the shift, the government wont having anything to hide anymore... except THEMSELVES
[17:39] <Keats> I dont think wed have homeland security act, patriot act, or shadow govt. with Gore in power
[17:40] <monk> shadow govt. was there before gore
[17:40] <Keats> but I also think the election was legit after Harris certified the election
[17:40] <Keats> I thought shadow govt. was a Bush creation...no?
[17:40] <QueenVee> no, its been place for years
[17:40] <kindred> to bad good ideas aleys seem to get corrupted by the powerful
[17:41] <Keats> Clinton? GHWBush?
[17:41] <monk> lol back more
[17:41] <Keats> wow jeez
[17:41] <monk> 70+ years
[17:41] <QueenVee> yeah
[17:41] <QueenVee> are at least to Eisenhower -- see his comments about the military-industrial complex
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[17:42] <Keats> Need to do a lot of thinking, you guys are just giving me more questions LOL
[17:42] <Keats> where to go, when to leave, what to take, who to go with...
[17:42] <Keats> all have changed since I got on this chat
[17:44] <QueenVee> you're plans will change more with the more you learn
[17:46] <Keats> QueenVee, you have a spare room on that farm? LOL
[17:46] <Keats> Im very quiet and I dont eat much. =)
[17:47] <QueenVee> 'fraid not; as it is, there won't be enough room for my family members....
[17:47] <Keats> nod nod, was just kidding =)
[17:47] <QueenVee> i know...
[17:47] <Keats> Will your family go with you?
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[17:48] <scooby-atwork> QV: good point about gov't serving the elite
[17:49] <LeXar> I'll have to face the terrible fact that my family will be a burden in the after world... I'll have to let them out of my surviving team
[17:49] <Keats> I dont think I could get my family to move
[17:49] <Keats> Lex, Id bear as much burden as I could for them...
[17:50] <LeXar> <scooby-atwork> the elite are already stated on the site
[17:50] <Keats> but they wont leave based on this site, even with a big red ball in the sky
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[17:50] <LeXar> at least, with all of this happening, I won't need to go fight in Iraq!
[17:50] <Keats> Im afraid Ill be a lone orphan after the pole shift
[17:51] <LeXar> what do you mean Keats
[17:51] <Keats> I think my family will be the types in denial
[17:51] <Keats> parents are old enough to say, we are going to the beach to watch the show...
[17:52] <Keats> brothers and their families are too attached to job/work/house to leave
[17:52] <Keats> so Ill probably end up in a tent in Oregon by my lonesome
[17:52] <QueenVee> Keats: you have to have faith that things will come together for you....
[17:52] <QueenVee> that you'll meet up with the right people....
[17:52] <QueenVee> if not before the shift.... then afterwards.....
[17:53] <Keats> yeah, I suppose you never know
[17:53] <Keats> weird thing is, part of me wants this to happen
[17:54] <QueenVee> yes, you intuitively understand that it will lead to positive things
[17:55] <QueenVee> therefore you are likely to be a part of those positive things
[17:55] <Keats> but also, im such a comfort hound...not sure I can make the transition
[17:55] <QueenVee> mmmmm, sounds like you'll be facing a challenge.... if you survive....
[17:55] <Keats> Im not what one would call a "good camper"
[17:55] <QueenVee> i was born to live in the outdoors....
[17:56] <Keats> I love camping, but im not good at it =)
[17:56] <LeXar> <QueenVee> yes, you intuitively understand that it will lead to positive things  ...  of course it will! The new hope for Earth and finally halt pollution
[17:56] <scooby-atwork> keats: you will learn....
[17:56] <Keats> when I go with my friends, I try to do the heavy lifting, spike pounding...
[17:56] <Keats> because im so terrible with cooking and tents and such
[17:56] <scooby-atwork> we all have our strengths and weaknesses
[17:57] <scooby-atwork> that is what community living is all about
[17:57] <Keats> one thing I really love about camping...
[17:57] <Keats> is you can see the stars
[17:57] <LeXar> I was born to be a fighter......
[17:58] <LeXar> I'll make good use of this to protect my friends and other good willed people in the 2nd cycle
[17:58] <LeXar> scooby you said it
[17:58] <Keats> did Zetas mention anywhere that they will get involved helping people after the shift?
[17:59] <LeXar> I'd like to become more peaceful with myself in the future.. I had a harsh past
[17:59] <LeXar> Keats...
[17:59] <Keats> I swear Im gonna die without the internet  =)
[17:59] <LeXar> don't expect there help
[17:59] <QueenVee> Keats: read the AFTERTIME section for that, it's not a simple answer
[17:59] <Keats> ok
[17:59] <Zetapal> 12/06/02 - Fri/Sat
[17:59] <Zetapal> Host: Art Bell
[17:59] <Zetapal> Guest: Dr. David Jacobs
[17:59] <Zetapal> Dr. Jacobs is Associate Professor of History at Temple University specializing in twentieth century American history and culture. Dr. Jacobs began researching the controversy over UFOs in the mid 1960's, and has amassed over 35 years of primary research data and analytical hypotheses on the subject.
[17:59] <Keats> I know they arent our mommies, but if I saw people suffering and had the ability to help, Id help
[18:00] <Keats> I took Jacobs' course at Temple U.
[18:00] <Zetapal> http://www.artbell.com/schedule.html
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[18:00] <Keats> yeah, hes on tonight
[18:01] <LeXar> Keats... I wouldn't rely on the Zetas to survive... they'll select the ones who they think will prove the best service-to-others... betcha we're all a bunch midget service-to-others if you ask them
[18:01] <Keats> Im a Temple grad, took his course called UFO's in American Society in 1996 or so
[18:01] <Keats> yeah, plus im pretty emotional, I think Id freak them out
[18:02] <Keats> and vice versa
[18:02] <LeXar> haha... don't worry my friend, like QV said, you'll find the right people
[18:02] <LeXar> same will happen here...
[18:03] <LeXar> there's one of my friends which I no he has good surviving skills, as well as a stunning heart who I've thought about included in our group
[18:04] <LeXar> It'd be a nice addition... althought Our team is becoming somewhat impressive
[18:04] <LeXar> in numbers..
[18:04] <Zetapal> VANCOUVER, Wash. -- A highly contagious virus that's plaguing Florida cruise ships is spreading through two assisted living homes in Vancouver
[18:04] <Zetapal> http://www.koin.com/health/20021205_vancouvernorwalk.shtml
[18:04] <LeXar> I really sound like a migdet, don't I?
[18:04] <Keats> are you gonna get out of Quebec Lex?
[18:04] <LeXar> Sure!
[18:04] <Keats> where you gonna go?
[18:05] <LeXar> I'm American at heart Keats...
[18:05] <LeXar> one day I'll go back to my native soil
[18:05] <LeXar> meantime, were heading west from Quebec City
[18:05] <QueenVee> LeXar: sounds like you're big on number, but short on concrete plans
[18:05] <Keats> Is Quebec City near the coast?
[18:05] <LeXar> after several months, we'll come accross Ontario and so on...
[18:06] <LeXar> QV true...
[18:06] <scooby-atwork> LeXar: numbers them selves can be misleading
[18:06] <LeXar> K, It's the pin point of a huge coastal opening
[18:06] <LeXar> I know, I know...
[18:06] <Keats> rgr
[18:06] <Keats> when will you leave?
[18:07] <LeXar> that's hards to tell.....
[18:07] <LeXar> I think We'd have to leave two weeks before the cataclysm...
[18:07] <LeXar> of course, I'm just guessing.....
[18:07] <Zetapal> MILAN (Reuters) - An Italian man who packed his bags 44 years ago and told friends he was leaving for America was found dead inside one of the walls of his home.
[18:07] <scooby-atwork> If I am gonna do anything I want to have it solidified by March at the latest
[18:07] <Keats> thats about where Im putting it...earlier if the response to the visible planet is more than expected
[18:08] <scooby-atwork> ZP: lol
[18:08] <Zetapal> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=573&ncid=573&e=15&u=/nm/20021204/od_nm/life_italy_america_dc
[18:08] <Keats> ?
[18:08] <LeXar> yeah, I mean when the planet is to be seen were gonna be far gone and prepared...
[18:09] <Zetapal> Inside a thick wall in the cellar the woman found human remains, two packed suitcases, a trowel and other equipment to make a wall, a rusted rifle and a bottle with a suicide note.
[18:09] <Zetapal> The note, on paper headed with the name Nemo Cianelli, explained that the man had discovered he had an incurable disease and had decided to kill himself. He said he had invented the tale of going to America to avoid upsetting his family.
[18:09] <LeXar> we've been all too occupied recently, which leads to our present mis-conducts regarding Planet X
[18:09] <Keats> actually...thats an amazingly cool story
[18:09] <monk> yea we just stay here all day and chat about planet x
[18:09] <kindred> well talk to you all later
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[18:12] <Keats> I think Nancy said 9 weeks prior, the planet will be visible to the naked eye...
[18:12] <QueenVee> 7 weeks
[18:12] <Keats> 7 weeks...so that would mean...end of march?
[18:13] <Keats> Unless youre independently wealthy and can  just pick up and leave now...
[18:13] <QueenVee> zetapal: i didn't get that file you tried to send me
[18:14] <Keats> is there a rule here about afk? do you boot people after awhile?
[18:14] <LeXar> Well I'd best be going... It's one of my friend's birthday... plus I have to call othe people
[18:15] <Keats> gl lexar, hope to see you on again...  S!
[18:15] <LeXar> thanks for the chat everyone
[18:16] <LeXar> see you all soon
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[18:17] <QueenVee> Keats: you can idle here if i know who you are....
[18:17] <Keats> you mean in person?
[18:17] <QueenVee> and as long  as you mark yourself äway
[18:18] <Keats> how do I do that?
[18:18] <QueenVee> no, just that you've been here and chatted with us
[18:18] <QueenVee> so i know who you are
[18:18] <QueenVee> and you can idle
[18:18] <scooby-atwork> Keats: let's see you driver's licencse and SS card...
[18:18] <scooby-atwork> lol
[18:18] <Keats> ok, LOL scoob
[18:19] <QueenVee> i just don't let comletely new people come in here and idle without actually chatting, to give us a chance to get to know them
[18:19] <Keats> Im actually in the middle of moving to a smaller apartment in the same complex
[18:19] <Keats> so Ill need to go afk from time to time
[18:19] <QueenVee> np
[18:20] <Keats> I should be moving now, but Im procrastinating
[18:22] <scooby-atwork> Well, Keats..... GET MOVING!!!!!!
[18:22] <scooby-atwork> :)
[18:22] <Keats> heheh, plus need food and a break
[18:22] <monk> I been looking all through zetatalk and I cant seem to figure something out maybe somebody will know this .... Is the earthchanges caused by planet x or no ?
[18:22] <QueenVee> monk: yes, they are caused by planet x
[18:22] <Keats> had the Norry interview on and figured Id check out the IRC room
[18:22] <scooby-atwork> keats: the one with Nancy?
[18:23] <Keats> yeah
[18:23] <scooby-atwork> kewl
[18:23] <Keats> Shes talking about predictions right now
[18:23] <scooby-atwork> are you listening on Art Bell's site?
[18:24] <Keats> stock market falling to 1/4 of its level...
[18:24] <monk> it fell 1/4 today ?
[18:24] <Keats> but when things are in hands of man like war...
[18:24] <Keats> no no, zetas said it will fall to 1/4 of its 1999 high
[18:28] <QueenVee> LOL: someone just sent me the following question for the agenda of tomorrow's ZetaTalk: "Why don't the Zetas push the planet x into a
[18:28] <QueenVee> safer orbit with a big mothership?"
[18:28] <Keats> Im not a Norry fan, but this was a great interview
[18:29] <Keats> she answered that in the interview I think
[18:29] <scooby-atwork> QV: lol
[18:29] <QueenVee> gotta walk the dog
[18:29] <Keats> said basically its not their job to save us, that we are supposed to go through this
[18:29] <QueenVee> be back later
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[18:30] <Keats> *waves*
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[18:34] <Zetapal> Man finds wallet after 56 years
[18:34] <Zetapal> http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5594194%255E13762,00.html
[18:35] <Zetapal> American al-Qaida operatives can be killed
[18:35] <Zetapal> Secret finding signed by Bush gives CIA authority, officials say
[18:35] <Zetapal> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/printstory.hts/nation/1686801
[18:36] <scooby-atwork> ZP: does that surprise anyone here?  That the Shrub wants ultimate power?
[18:37] <Keats> not even a little
[18:37] <Keats> hey look! keats is al-qaida, and HES COMIN RIGHT FOR US <BLAM BLAM BLAM>
[18:38] <Keats> mr. cia agent, you just killed a US citizen, can you tell us why?
[18:38] <Keats> cia agent: he was al-qaida
[18:38] <scooby-atwork> What about that guy in FL named Al Kayda?
[18:38] <scooby-atwork> seriously...
[18:39] <Keats> how did you know? did he show you his al-qaida membership card?
[18:41] <Keats> afk a sec
[18:43] <scooby-atwork> Google now does news:
[18:43] <scooby-atwork> http://news.google.com/
[18:43] <scooby-atwork> I am looking for that link i mentioned... but can't seem to find it
[18:44] <Zetapal> A sea oddity
[18:44] <Zetapal> Multicoloured lobster has both kinds of sex organs
[18:44] <Zetapal> http://www.herald.ns.ca/stories/2002/12/05/f221.raw.html
[18:45] <scooby-atwork> http://entertainment.yahoo.com/entnews/wwn/20021112/103711320007.html
[18:45] <scooby-atwork> Al Kayda
[18:45] <scooby-atwork> dumb Americans....
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[18:54] <willshell> heya
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[18:58] <scooby-atwork> bywe
[18:58] <scooby-atwork> bye
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[19:09] <Keats> wb QueenVee
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[19:10] <QueenVee> :-)
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[19:13] <kindred> cat got your tongue's
[19:13] <kindred> H E L L O
[19:14] <QueenVee> hello
[19:14] <kindred> I get enough of the silent treatment from my girlfriend
[19:14] <QueenVee> oh dear
[19:14] <kindred> HI
[19:15] <QueenVee> zetapal: are you still here?
[19:15] <scooby-atwork> lunchtime!
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[19:16] <kindred> lunch its 10 pm
[19:16] <scooby-atlunch> i work till midnite PST
[19:16] <scooby-atlunch> lol
[19:16] <scooby-atlunch> 7:15 here, so, OK, dinnertime!!!
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[19:44] <Shaman464> hi all
[19:44] <QueenVee> hi
[19:44] <Shaman464> queen, i had this really odd dream
[19:44] <QueenVee> yeah?
[19:45] <Shaman464> some guy said to me that i am gunna surive but, shouldnt have known before
[19:45] <QueenVee> mmm, strange
[19:45] <Shaman464> nothing else, just walked into the darkness
[19:45] <Shaman464> and then i woke up with a jolt
[19:46] <QueenVee> interesting
[19:47] <Shaman464> maybe it was my subconscions trying to tell me something
[19:47] <Shaman464> or maybe i ate something i shouldnt have, lol
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[19:48] <Ummite> hi
[19:48] <Shaman464> hello
[19:50] <Ummite> whats up
[19:51] <Shaman464> nm, just discussing an odd dream i had
[19:51] <Ummite> k
[19:52] <Shaman464> queen any ideas?
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[19:53] <Vent0> hello
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[19:56] <Vent0> how is every one
[19:56] <monk> hi
[19:56] <monk> good
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[19:57] <Vent0> no ones talking ??
[19:57] <monk> im talking
[19:58] <PoleShifter> me too
[19:58] <Vent0>  i am a lil new at this
[19:58] <monk> what do u wanna talk about
[19:59] <Vent0>  so bare with me  
[19:59] <QueenVee> hello Vent -- what brings you to this room?
[19:59] <PoleShifter> what's your interest vent?
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[20:01] <Vent0>  life and being a different kid in the society i guess
[20:01] <QueenVee> what has that got to do with the May2003 poleshift?
[20:01] <monk> why do u say your different
[20:03] <PoleShifter> queen : cmon don't kick him now, let him say his story
[20:03] <QueenVee> Vent: this is a chatrom about the May2003 poleshift
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[20:03] <scooby-atlunch> vent: all in here are different in society: we believe
[20:03] <Valdrix> hello
[20:03] <scooby-atlunch> hey valdrix
[20:03] <QueenVee> hey Valdrix
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[20:04] <Vent0> My story of life is a very Long none ending struggle i guess i can say
[20:04] <QueenVee> Vent: should i assume by your silence that you're not here to discuss the May2003 poleshift?
[20:05] <QueenVee> Vent: this is not a place to tell your lifestory
[20:05] <Vent0> no of what is yet to come
[20:05] <monk> if u wanna tell your lifestory im open to listen come to channel #god
[20:05] <PoleShifter> qv: there is no discussion going on anyway..
[20:06] <PoleShifter> why not being "open" sometimes..
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[20:07] <QueenVee> Valdrix: did arkansas escape the recent storms in the US?
[20:08] <Valdrix> um.. no
[20:08] <Valdrix> we did not get hit so hard tho
[20:08] <Valdrix> 1-3 inches..
[20:09] <QueenVee> arkansas is not a place i think of as having snow....
[20:09] <Vent0>  i live in nj
[20:09] <Valdrix> but roads were fine by the end of next day... only backroads (which we have lots of) were still bad
[20:09] <Valdrix> lol
[20:09] <Vent0> where the snow storm was hit bad
[20:09] <Valdrix> we get snow every year
[20:09] <QueenVee> well, that reveals my ignorance
[20:09] <Valdrix> lol.. but!
[20:10] <Valdrix> i do live in the nw part.. and that is in the ozarks
[20:10] <Valdrix> central gets much less than we do here.. and southern gets little or none
[20:10] <QueenVee> ah, okay
[20:11] <scooby-atwork> ozarks is supposed to be a good spot
[20:11] <Valdrix> nod
[20:11] <Valdrix> i hope so scooby..
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[20:12] <Valdrix> hey froggy
[20:12] <froggy> hi
[20:12] <monk> hi froggy
[20:12] <froggy> hi everybody :)
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[20:13] <froggy> hi
[20:13] <QueenV> howdy
[20:13] <Valdrix> the only thing that truely worries me about the ozarks, is the wind...
[20:13] <QueenV> what do you mean about the wind?
[20:14] <Valdrix> i think the mtns will slow, or force the winds during the shift, to not be too bad here. but i just  dont know
[20:14] <QueenV> yes, so many unpredictable variables
[20:14] <Valdrix> nod
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[20:15] <QueenVee> there have been some strong earthquakes in the last few days: Fiji Islands 6.6 (Dec.3), Myanmar 5.9 (Dec.4), Bay of Bengal 5.9 (Dec.4), Alaska. Moderate earthquakes: Japan 5.4 (Dec.4), New Britain 5.6 (Dec.5), Fiji Islands 5.6 (Dec.4).
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[20:15] <Valdrix> the quakes worried me at first too... but my research yealed reports that the big quake along the mississippi years ago (the one which caused the river to run backwards for a bit).. bearly shook at all in the mtns
[20:15] <QueenVee> well, that's good news
[20:16] <Valdrix> right :)
[20:16] <QueenVee> lucky that previous experience exists....
[20:16] <Valdrix> but the rizing water is a nother matter
[20:16] <QueenVee> in my area, things like quakes and floods just don't happen, so i have no way of knowing how the area will experience those things
[20:17] <Valdrix> all the mtns around here have bluffs that run at aprox the same level...  and on each mtn bluff one can find seashell fossels
[20:17] <Valdrix> nod.. true qv..  that wil be the case most places i am thinking
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[20:17] <Valdrix> hey jlofan
[20:17] <JLOfan> hey
[20:18] <QueenVee> well, arkansas isn't a coastal state, so it won't have the "climbing water" problem that those states will have....
[20:18] <Valdrix> hmm...
[20:19] <Valdrix> but it will become an island.
[20:20] <QueenVee> i don't know why you say that....
[20:20] <Valdrix> but my feer is that the water rizes and makes many small islands instead of one large one..altho zt has not said so..
[20:20] <QueenVee> mmmmm
[20:20] <QueenVee> get a boat
[20:20] <Valdrix> well.. with water rizing inthe south of me.... and the fluding in the missouri area and oklahoma and texas......
[20:21] <QueenVee> right
[20:21] <Valdrix> so it will become cut off of the main land...altho this is a good thing...  
[20:23] <QueenVee> well, there are advantages to the isolation of such islands, in terms of being inaccessible to roving hoardes....
[20:23] <Valdrix> right
[20:23] <Shaman464> but, food will run out fast if youre not prepared.......
[20:23] <Valdrix> and the soil is great here...  so if crops can be found that will grow... then it will help
[20:23] <QueenVee> Shaman: that is true for everywhere
[20:23] <QueenVee> low-light root crops
[20:24] <Valdrix> also, as the water levels rize.. any remaining game will head for high ground.
[20:24] <QueenVee> ah, true
[20:24] <Valdrix> altho that wont last long.
[20:24] <Valdrix> it could help to buy time to get food going
[20:24] <QueenVee> yes
[20:25] <Shaman464> then again you could scanvige, there will be alota food stores that now belong to dead folks
[20:25] <Valdrix> added the fact that most everyone here (that was raised here) is very community oriented.
[20:25] <Valdrix> true shaman... but.
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[20:25] <Valdrix> i feer that no matter where you are
[20:25] <QueenVee> Shaman: such stores of food will last two weeks at best
[20:25] <Shaman464> true
[20:25] <HBO> QueenVee, got a quick Q for you
[20:25] <Valdrix> the local governments (mayors and counsels) will do there best to set up
[20:25] <QueenVee> HBO: shoot
[20:25] <HBO> on the EMSC site
[20:25] <Shaman464> 2 weeks is better then nothing
[20:26] <QueenVee> EMSC?
[20:26] <HBO> what is the difference under the Mag column of M, Mb, and Ms?
[20:26] <QueenVee> oh, ok
[20:26] <QueenVee> just a sec
[20:26] <Valdrix> our local govts will try to enforce law, by creating millita. and if the gvt doesent do it, the other local millitas will
[20:27] <HBO> http://www.emsc-csem.org/cgi-bin/ALERT_all_messages.sh
[20:27] <Valdrix> altho most arnt sts, there leaders are religous... which will put them in positions to try and get power
[20:28] <QueenVee> HBO: answer: I dunno
[20:28] <QueenVee> mmm, yes, that's a concern
[20:28] <Valdrix> this i belive is one of the major reasions zt has warned us to try and be away from large cities
[20:28] <HBO> well, it's showing some M12 and M13 quakes in Europe, but that surely in not mag in Richtor sxale
[20:29] <QueenVee> HBO: no no no....
[20:29] <QueenVee> the "1" is attached to the "M"....
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[20:30] <QueenVee> so the first quake there, in Northern Italy, is a 2.6, not a 12.6
[20:30] <HBO> ok, scared me there for a minute
[20:30] <QueenVee> lol
[20:30] <HBO> thanks
[20:31] <HBO> off to bed with the flu bug...feel like shit for last 3 days now
[20:31] <QueenVee> oh, poor baby
[20:31] <HBO> bye
[20:31] <QueenVee> drink lots of fluid
[20:31] <QueenVee> and rest
[20:31] <HBO> right
[20:31] <QueenVee> and stay away from those quake stats....
[20:31] <HBO> yeah, good excuse to lie around and moan :))
[20:32] <Valdrix> lol
[20:32] <HBO> bye for now
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[20:32] <QueenVee> bye
[20:33] <Valdrix> altho zt has spoken much of isolation post ps......  is that realy the best way to go?
[20:33] <Valdrix> my way of thinking...is that small comunitys, of around 20 people would make much more sence
[20:33] <QueenVee> low-profile is what they emphasize
[20:34] <QueenVee> well, that's pretty isolated
[20:34] <Valdrix> ahh i see
[20:34] <Valdrix> lol..
[20:34] <QueenVee> you want to be away from large population areas
[20:34] <Valdrix> but how large hehe?
[20:34] <Valdrix> and how far.
[20:34] <Valdrix> :P
[20:34] <QueenVee> so there will be all these people coming bye wanting your stuff
[20:35] <Valdrix> nod.. hehe right
[20:35] <Valdrix> lol
[20:35] <QueenVee> i'm puzzled by what ZT says about prison populations roaming about after the shift.....
[20:35] <Valdrix> hmm
[20:35] <QueenVee> won't they simply die during the poleshift, in the prisonsk?
[20:35] <Shaman464> becasue the guards will just leave
[20:35] <QueenVee> yeah, that makes sense
[20:36] <Valdrix> well.. depends..  prisons are build very strong,
[20:36] <Shaman464> no one to watch them and they get away
[20:36] <QueenVee> they might even let them out, from a sense of compassion
[20:36] <QueenVee> well, the fortunate thing is that they will not be prepared, even if they do survive....
[20:37] <Valdrix> remove the threat of punishment, and being caught...and they will excape
[20:37] <QueenVee> so i think they will be a short-term problem
[20:37] <Valdrix> right.. shortterm.. but!
[20:37] <QueenVee> but
[20:37] <Shaman464> anyone ever see shasank?
[20:37] <Valdrix> only short term if someone stops them from looking and pillaging
[20:37] <Valdrix> nodnod
[20:37] <Valdrix> looting i meen
[20:37] <QueenVee> so isolated and low-profile is best
[20:38] <Valdrix> hmm...
[20:38] <monk> I think living in the forest and being mobile is the best
[20:38] <Shaman464> the old man who got out killed himself, they get so use to four walls and 3 squres they dont adjust and die
[20:38] <Valdrix> there are about 100k people living in 3 large towns here.....
[20:38] <monk> living off the land
[20:38] <QueenVee> i wouldn't want to be anywhere near a prison.....
[20:39] <QueenVee> monk: there won't be anything on the land to live off of
[20:39] <monk> well if theres nothing then were all dead
[20:40] <monk> theres gonna be bugs and stuff and wood
[20:40] <Valdrix> that is something i have been thinking on
[20:40] <QueenVee> no, not those who make preparations, stock up on food, grow low-light crops
[20:40] <monk> well i guess im gonna die
[20:40] <Valdrix> post ps..  the climet will be so drasticly changed, that much of what is alive here...will no longer live.. plat wise anyway
[20:40] <Valdrix> plant
[20:40] <monk> I dont plan on stocking up on food
[20:41] <monk> maybe enough food for a month but thats all
[20:41] <monk> big bag of rice
[20:42] <QueenVee> Valdrix: the lack of sunlight is what will kill off most vegetation
[20:42] <QueenVee> monk: where will you get the water to cook your rice?
[20:42] <froggy> how did people in the past survive the ps, they were not warned and mankind lived on?
[20:43] <QueenVee> previous poleshifts were not as severe
[20:43] <QueenVee> because the passing was not as close
[20:43] <monk> Ill materize water with my mind
[20:43] <QueenVee> but, still, most of the population was wiped out
[20:43] <Valdrix> nod
[20:44] <froggy> what monk???????
[20:44] <QueenVee> monk: so what part of  "living in the forest and being mobile" is better again?
[20:44] <Valdrix> survival will become a natural selection process
[20:45] <QueenVee> but not survival of the fittest....
[20:45] <monk> froggy: Ill make water with my thoughts
[20:45] <scooby-atwork> hey QV: I was wondering about prisoners too
[20:45] <scooby-atwork> sorry to jump in so late...
[20:45] <Valdrix> after ps.. i am asuming that in a small partly safe area, the population will not drop hugely in the first days.
[20:45] <QueenVee> ZT says those who have the ability to cooperate and work together will survive over those who can't
[20:45] <scooby-atwork> I suspect the scenario of them escaping is gonna play out
[20:45] <Valdrix> right
[20:46] <Valdrix> after all qv... the more seed planted, the more will grow.
[20:46] <scooby-atwork> regarding previous passes of pX, is it possible that Atlantis or Mu were affected by this?
[20:46] <Valdrix> but if everyone is fighting over seed...then no one is taking time to plant
[20:46] <scooby-atwork> prolly in ZT somewhere, eh?
[20:47] <QueenVee> scooby: do a search of the site with those two words and you'll get something
[20:47] <scooby-atwork> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p41.htm
[20:48] <scooby-atwork> just bein a little lazy
[20:48] <QueenVee> :-)
[20:49] <QueenVee> It's like this poleshift will be SO BAD that the STS approach simply can't work, there's just not enough left to "take advantage of"; what will make the difference is the ability to pool resources, build, create....
[20:49] <Valdrix> right
[20:49] <Valdrix> but
[20:49] <QueenVee> hehe
[20:50] <Valdrix> the fear of the masses... all of those who are in denial... will flock to known leaders
[20:50] <Valdrix> sts leaders will attempt to take advantage and
[20:50] <QueenVee> Valdrix: there aren't going to BE any MASSES....
[20:50] <Valdrix> hmm..
[20:50] <scooby-atwork> lol
[20:50] <QueenVee> and KNOWN LEADERS are not going to survive
[20:50] <Valdrix> nod.. mayors? religous leaders...
[20:50] <Valdrix> hehe there are sooo many
[20:51] <QueenVee> why will they survive over the masses?
[20:51] <Valdrix> of course i am speeking of the week following the ps
[20:51] <Valdrix> well..
[20:51] <QueenVee> they don't have foreknowledge of the ps
[20:51] <QueenVee> they're going to be in the same situation as everybody else
[20:52] <QueenVee> if they don't die in the shift, they'll be in shock and denial
[20:52] <Valdrix> hmmmm
[20:52] <QueenVee> and they'll have nothing to offer their "followers".....
[20:52] <QueenVee> no food
[20:52] <QueenVee> no resources
[20:52] <Shaman464> leaders only lead those who will let the,
[20:52] <Shaman464> them*
[20:53] <Valdrix> ... well just a for example.. because i understand what your saying... but like playing devils avocate :) just because it helps us all learn
[20:53] <Valdrix> but
[20:53] <Vent0> You KNOW... you can't dwell on the future so much.  All you have to do is for today because that is all you have.  You might not have the next day.  So make it count today and don't just keep dwelling on the future!
[20:53] <QueenVee> when people get hungry, they'll sooner roast Jerry Fallwell on a spit than follow him....
[20:53] <Valdrix> localy we have a religous leader, who also heads up a large local millita (yuck)
[20:54] <QueenVee> Vent: don't be an idiot. this is a chatroom to discuss preparations for the future.
[20:54] <Valdrix> this leader saies he is preparing for the "whatever" lol im not shure what hes calling it..
[20:54] <Valdrix> but he has a large number of men with guns..
[20:54] <Vent0> sorry i understand all of that, i am not against anything.  i didn't mean to make you get upset at all.  
[20:54] <Shaman464> i vote we eat vent first
[20:54] <QueenVee> okay, that guy is somebody to be concerned about
[20:54] <Valdrix> nodnod
[20:54] <Vent0> i was just making my own opinion.
[20:55] <Valdrix> and there are others.. so even if he died in ps... the odds are that one or more of these millita leaders will not
[20:55] <Shaman464> yea, but you dont get renforments
[20:55] <Valdrix> ahhh but you do
[20:55] <QueenVee> Valdrix: if i knew somebody like that, and his group, were in the same vicinity -- that would NOT be the vicinity i would plan to be in in the aftertime
[20:56] <Shaman464> lets say every one that they steal form two get killed
[20:56] <Valdrix> right.
[20:56] <Shaman464> anyone willing to kill to live?
[20:56] <scooby-atwork> not me
[20:56] <QueenVee> no
[20:56] <QueenVee> that would be decidedly STS
[20:57] <scooby-atwork> there are many more important things thatn living
[20:57] <scooby-atwork> than
[20:57] <Vent0> nope, never, i can never harm another being.
[20:57] <Vent0> what is STS?
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[20:57] <Shaman464> but, by killing that one you save the whole group, isnt that STO?
[20:57] <scooby-atwork> people: I am sure I am preaching to the choir here, but THE SOUL LIVES ON
[20:57] <Valdrix> hehe.. he is on the other side of town... and day after ps i begin moving east to the higher more isolated hills.. only a day or so travel by foot.. but i assume two with frinds and children.. also return trips for left over clothes and things that can be used as tools.. hehe but for this example i will pretend im staying
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[20:57] <QueenVee> Vent: you clearly haven't read the most basic parts of the ZetaTalk site -- so why are you here?
[20:58] <Shaman464> but, by killing that one you save the whole group, isnt that STO?
[20:58] <Valdrix> depends shama