Session Start: Sun Dec 08 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
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[01:26] <ukuz_zzz> :)
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[02:43] <RNTHOMAS> Mornin scooby... Whatcha doin up so late?
[02:44] <RNTHOMAS> Oh, right U R working...
[02:48] <RNTHOMAS> Yikes, guess everyone's asleep then..
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[06:08] <tex-away> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24386-2002Dec7.html
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[07:20] <Danny> Wanted to participate in the discussion of yesterday evening CET, but had to leave - not so experienced with chatting, so anyone who can point me where or how to find the text of yesterday's discussion?
[07:25] <tex-away> http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zetalogs.htm
[07:25] <tex-away> however they are not yet posted
[07:25] <tex-away> should be soon
[07:31] <Danny> Thanks!
[07:43] <fetus> saw a funny headline on cnn yesterday... it said "SHOWDOWN IRAQ - Operation Internal Look" Oil for short :)
[07:52] <fetus> o.i.l
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[07:57] <scooby> fetus: lol
[07:57] <fetus> :)...cnn has yet to say anything about oil in iraq
[07:58] <obany> sigh
[07:58] <obany> howmo go figure
[07:58] <obany> brb
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[08:09] <obany> so worthless to discuss with howmo
[08:09] <obany> geez
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[09:05] <DRGREEN> Impressive new pics. I wonder what IMO will day.
[09:05] <DRGREEN> say.
[09:05] <obany> green
[09:06] <DRGREEN> yo?
[09:06] <obany> I think you mean:
[09:06] <obany> USNO Star Mag: 15.1 (Blue) 13.8 (Red)
[09:06] <obany> Field: 476
[09:06] <obany> Magnitude: 14.29
[09:06] <obany> Ralf: 04h 22m 49.85s Dec: +12°07'44.16"
[09:06] <obany> Ralf: 04h 22m 40.05s Dec: +12°07'19.92" (Epoch 2000)
[09:06] <obany> but this is the bright (relatively) star just above and to the right
[09:06] <obany> of the frame 3 defect chosen by Lieder as the "white" persona. Havas
[09:06] <obany> is excited by his "red" persona which seems to be a star and which is
[09:06] <obany> not apparent in my 11 disk copy of the USNO-a2.0
[09:06] <obany> that is what imo said
[09:06] <obany> so what he well said is that it's something new
[09:07] <DRGREEN> So, according to him the white persona is a defect?
[09:07] <DRGREEN> and red a star?
[09:07] <DRGREEN> I do not understand completely.
[09:09] <obany> okay the longer version
[09:09] <obany> Michael L Cunningham <bogeystar@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3DF2F159.4070907@earthlink.net>...
[09:09] <obany> > Steve Havas wrote:
[09:09] <obany> > > Exciting new images everyone! I took 11 x 4 min exposures on Dec 4 and these are now available on
[09:09] <obany> > > the ZT site.
[09:09] <obany> > >
[09:09] <obany> > > http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/nancy3.htm
[09:09] <obany> > >
[09:09] <obany> > > The "red" and "white" personas have been identified and Zeta confirmed.
[09:09] <obany> > >
[09:09] <obany> > > http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/zeta4.htm
[09:09] <obany> > >
[09:09] <obany> > > Size increase for the "red" persona is DRAMATIC and shows up extremely well on all frames. The
[09:09] <obany> > > "white" persona is almost exactly at the Dec 6 coordinate location.
[09:09] <obany> > >
[09:09] <obany> > > http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/shavas16.htm
[09:09] <obany> > > http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/nancy4.htm
[09:09] <obany> > >
[09:10] <obany> > > Tholen, is this another new variable star? Maybe the one from Nov 15-16 moved to this new location
[09:10] <obany> > > and swelled greatly in size!
[09:10] <obany> >
[09:10] <obany> > Nice try Steve but no cookie. It's in all your images because you
[09:10] <obany> > actually captured a field star! It's even visible on the DSS image you
[09:10] <obany> > supplied! IT's also on the USNO-A2 catalog as a star with a red
[09:10] <obany> > magnitude of 13.8, Blue magnitude of 15.1, and visual magnitude of 14.3.
[09:10] <obany> >
[09:10] <obany> > Your image also shows a soft focus (that's why it's bloated) and is full
[09:10] <obany> > of pixel defects but once it's cleaned up with the proper processing,
[09:10] <obany> > your candiate is just a field star.
[09:10] <obany> >
[09:10] <obany> > Don't feel bad... at least you're taking images of smoething other than
[09:10] <obany> > defects!!!
[09:10] <obany> >
[09:10] <obany> > Michael
[09:10] <obany> I think you mean:
[09:10] <obany> USNO Star Mag: 15.1 (Blue) 13.8 (Red)
[09:10] <obany> Field: 476
[09:10] <obany> Magnitude: 14.29
[09:10] <obany> Ralf: 04h 22m 49.85s Dec: +12°07'44.16"
[09:10] <obany> Ralf: 04h 22m 40.05s Dec: +12°07'19.92" (Epoch 2000)
[09:10] <obany> but this is the bright (relatively) star just above and to the right
[09:10] <obany> of the frame 3 defect chosen by Lieder as the "white" persona. Havas
[09:10] <obany> is excited by his "red" persona which seems to be a star and which is
[09:10] <obany> not apparent in my 11 disk copy of the USNO-a2.0
[09:11] <DRGREEN> But how? I sure do not see that star on the DSS.
[09:12] <DRGREEN> And ralf says it is not visible on USNO a2 but tholen says it is.
[09:12] <DRGREEN> I understeand correctly?
[09:13] <obany> nah .... Micheal Cunninghamd said thatbut imo said he was mistaken ..
[09:13] <DRGREEN> So, all in all, they still think no Nibiru.
[09:14] <DRGREEN> When will the time come when it cannot be mistaken for anything else.
[09:14] <obany> well just a star, at least that's what they say .. or a asteroid
[09:14] <obany> green: well i think when it will be vissible in the sky for all to see, then they can't come up with exuses anymore
[09:15] <DRGREEN> hope so.
[09:27] <DRGREEN> well, gotta go. Best to you.
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[09:47] <cmel> hi
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[10:00] <yggdrasil> how often does the px come
[10:00] <cmel> every 3600 years
[10:01] <obany> 3657 years about
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[10:39] <obany> he comet is aligned with the larger arena, where it spends most of its cycle, some 3,657 years, on average.
[10:40] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p05.htm
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[11:13] <tex-away> hey QV
[11:13] <QueenVee> hey
[11:13] <QueenVee> just reading something interesting
[11:13] <tex-away> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24386-2002Dec7.html
[11:14] <QueenVee> ha! the very one
[11:15] <QueenVee> you think it's PX or war related?
[11:15] <tex-away> well it's interesting all right
[11:15] <QueenVee> maybe a question for nancy
[11:15] <QueenVee> you wouldn't think he'd be building his PX shelter right in the middle of Washington....
[11:15] <tex-away> do you think someone is going to nuke DC
[11:15] <QueenVee> though the lot of them could be quite deluded
[11:16] <QueenVee> mmmmm
[11:16] <QueenVee> sure is weird
[11:16] <tex-away> i would lean to px shelter
[11:17] <QueenVee> "please understand we are severely constrained by operation requirements to perform this project on a highly accelerated schedule; therefore, it will not be possible to limit construction activities to the daytime as you request."
[11:17] <QueenVee> jesus, working day and night
[11:18] <tex-away> they damn sure are in a hurry about something
[11:18] <QueenVee> these guys probably think they're going to emerge from their shelters after PX and just take up where they left off
[11:18] <QueenVee> just step over the dead bodies on their way to the White House....
[11:20] <QueenVee> well, either way, it's clear they're preparing for something that's coming soon
[11:20] <QueenVee> terrorist attack, nuclear attack, planet x.....
[11:20] <tex-away> no question about that
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[12:02] <cmelwatchingnews> ping pong huh ?
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[12:02] <QueenVee> trying to do something....
[12:02] <QueenVee> hi cmel
[12:02] <QueenVee> by the way
[12:02] <cmelwatchingnews> HI
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[12:02] <QueenVee> grrrr
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[12:04] <cmel> hi
[12:04] <QueenVee> well, it's not working
[12:04] <cmel> what is not ?
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[12:04] <QueenVee> i'm trying to get the channel to automatically op me when i enter the channel
[12:04] <cmel> talk to chanserv :)
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[12:05] <QueenVee> ohwell, not important in the larger scheme of things
[12:05] <cmel> nah I guess not :)
[12:05] <QueenVee> so, have you seen this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24386-2002Dec7.html
[12:05] <cmel> yes
[12:05] <cmel> and hhhmmmm
[12:06] <QueenVee> dum-dum-dum-dum, dum-dum-dum-dum....
[12:06] <cmel> surprise ? ...... NOT
[12:06] <QueenVee> right
[12:06] <cmel> no it's dum-dum-dum-dum-
[12:07] <cmel> ...... booom
[12:07] <cmel> and then repeat
[12:07] <QueenVee> hehe
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[12:07] <cmel> somone is burrowing
[12:07] <QueenVee> burrowing deep
[12:07] <cmel> yep
[12:08] <cmel> I'm happy I'm not paying tax in US
[12:08] <QueenVee> these guys are deluded enough to plan riding out the shift right in the middle of Washington; then emerge from their bunkers and take up where they left off, stepping over bodies on their way to work at the White House.....
[12:09] <QueenVee> re US tax: you and me both
[12:09] <QueenVee> at least my taxes go to things like universal health care
[12:09] <cmel> yeah I read your conversation earlier, when I was AFK
[12:09] <cmel> yes
[12:10] <cmel> what was the sessions about saturday ? overall
[12:11] <QueenVee> a lot of good aftertime stuff, about communities, sto vs sts, etc.
[12:11] <cmel> ok, are the logs up yet ?
[12:11] <QueenVee> dunno, did you check?
[12:11] <cmel> yes two hours ago
[12:11] <cmel> but no
[12:12] <QueenVee> i just checked, they're still not up
[12:12] <QueenVee> do you want them via dcc?
[12:12] <cmel> oh ok, I was just about to check
[12:12] <cmel> nah I can wait
[12:12] <QueenVee> k
[12:16] <cmel> do you know of any PX-related radioshows that was aired recently ?
[12:17] <QueenVee> well, nancy's is the only one i can direct you to; i've seen references to recent appearances by James McCanney....
[12:18] <QueenVee> if you join Mark Hazewood's listserve, he has several notices there about McCanney's appearances: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/planetx2003/
[12:18] <cmel> well I heard the show from 11-25-02
[12:18] <cmel> or 25th of november 2002
[12:18] <cmel> artbell
[12:19] <QueenVee> good
[12:19] <cmel> did you hear the Art Bell show with Bob Lazar ?
[12:20] <QueenVee> no, i keep meaning to listen to the archive copy
[12:20] <cmel> I think it was 11-28-02
[12:21] <cmel> I have it on disk, but it's four 20meg files (mp3) :(
[12:22] <QueenVee> i can access it on Bell's site
[12:22] <cmel> k
[12:22] <cmel> :)
[12:22] <cmel> well I "recorded it" :)
[12:24] <cmel> when is it art bell starts usually ? utc ?
[12:24] <cmel> I think it's early morning here when its on :(
[12:24] <QueenVee> check the site...
[12:24] <cmel> k
[12:27] <cmel> later QV
[12:28] <QueenVee> later
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[12:32] <QueenVee> hey Red
[12:32] <Red> Hi QV How are things?
[12:33] <QueenVee> pretty good
[12:33] <QueenVee> getting a few things done today
[12:33] <Red> Good stuff!
[12:33] <QueenVee> have you seen this yet: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24386-2002Dec7.html
[12:33] <Red> no haven't thanks
[12:34] <QueenVee> do read it
[12:34] <QueenVee> also this. Last week a major earthquake, now this: http://www.spacedaily.com/2002/021208130425.gdfmg4g2.html
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[12:38] <QueenVee> hey butch
[12:38] <Red> hiya butch
[12:39] <butch> hi QueenVee and Red
[12:39] <QueenVee> check this out, butch: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24386-2002Dec7.html
[12:39] <QueenVee> also this. Last week a major earthquake, now this: http://www.spacedaily.com/2002/021208130425.gdfmg4g2.html
[12:39] <butch> how's it going my "great white north' friends???:)
[12:39] <QueenVee> lots of snow today
[12:39] <Red> we are back to unseasonably warm... I could get used to thi
[12:40] <QueenVee> my dog and i had a real fun walk in it this morning
[12:40] <Red> how much snow?
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[12:40] <QueenVee> it's about normal temperatures here for this time of year
[12:40] <Red> hey sundar
[12:40] <sundar> Hi, did i meet you earlier?
[12:40] <QueenVee> Red: oh, not that much, probably about an inch
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[12:40] <QueenVee> hello sundar
[12:41] <sundar> hello QueenVee, how are you today?
[12:41] <Red> not me sundarr haven't been on much lately
[12:41] <QueenVee> good sundar
[12:41] <QueenVee> my elderly 16-year-old was acting like a puppy in the snow today, leaping and rolling about in it....
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[12:42] <sundar> QueenVee, can you ask nancy, when phase-3 of zetan awakening going to start?
[12:42] <QueenVee> phase 3 of zetan awakening? i don't know what you're referring to?
[12:42] <QueenVee> what was phase 1 and 2?
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[12:42] <QueenVee> hey monk, PGill
[12:42] <monk> Hi
[12:42] <PGill> hi
[12:42] <sundar> I think, it was mentioned in zetatalk
[12:43] <QueenVee> here's the latest news for those who just entered the room: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24386-2002Dec7.html
[12:43] <QueenVee> also this. Last week a major earthquake, now this: http://www.spacedaily.com/2002/021208130425.gdfmg4g2.html
[12:43] <QueenVee> sundar: i don't think so; think you might have something twisted...
[12:44] <from_Texas> you might check this QV... it has since be upgraded to a super typhoon
[12:44] <from_Texas> http://www.austin360.com/aas/news/ap/ap_story.html/Intl/AP.V6725.AP-Pacific-Typhoon.html
[12:45] <sundar> Majority in olden days had a chart planned out of divulging zetan existence in a phases with 3rd phase being the zetans appearing in 3rd density..
[12:45] <QueenVee> sundar: i recall nothing like that in ZetaTalk; you'll have to find me a link....
[12:45] <Red> I was way up north last nitght (Ft McMurray) and the northern lights were awesome The locals said they were on practically every night
[12:46] <QueenVee> Tex: thanks for that, where did you hear it has been upgraded to a super typhoon
[12:46] <sundar> It was mentioned indirectly somewhere where nancy talks that "in coming days, watch out for people screaming - ghosts/demons, where zetan will make themselves visible vaguely.,,"
[12:46] <QueenVee> Red: i've never seen the northern lights, would love to
[12:46] <from_Texas> a weather news group i belong to... looking for link for you now
[12:47] <Red> They are great to watch
[12:47] <QueenVee> Sundar: go find it on ZetaTalk then, i don't know of anything like that on ZetaTalk
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[12:47] <Red> Hmmm anyone know hy PoleShiftNews is not updating (Until Further Notice)?
[12:48] <QueenVee> Red: no, that's all very disconcerting
[12:48] <QueenVee> Hope Wright is ok
[12:48] <QueenVee> not sick or something
[12:48] <from_Texas> http://www.weathermatrix.net/archive/tropical/wpacific/0156.shtml
[12:49] <Red> indeed... Also RumorMillNews has had a rough go lately... server problems etc
[12:49] <QueenVee> thanks tex!
[12:49] <Red> yes for sure
[12:49] <QueenVee> Has anybody here NOT had a sneak-preview of my website yet?
[12:49] <Red> I haven't
[12:50] <PGill> i havent
[12:50] <QueenVee> okay, bear in mind that none of the sections are up and running yet except the news stories on the main page, so don't try to register yourself or anything....
[12:51] <QueenVee> it's meant to be a companion website for this group: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/
[12:51] <Red> thanks
[12:53] <PGill> great job, looks very good
[12:53] <QueenVee> well, it's not flashy, but it will be a good place to post information
[12:54] <Red> looks good
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[12:55] <QueenVee> hello Dolores!
[12:55] <Red> Hiya Dolores
[12:55] <DoloresE> hi queen how are you
[12:55] <QueenVee> good
[12:55] <DoloresE> hi red
[12:55] <QueenVee> so, what do you all think about that Cheny story?
[12:55] <QueenVee> here's the link for you, Dodie: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24386-2002Dec7.html
[12:56] <DoloresE> ok thanks
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[12:56] <QueenVee> i like this part: '....please understand we are severely constrained by operation requirements to perform this project on a highly accelerated schedule; therefore, it will not be possible to limit construction activities to the daytime as you request."....
[12:57] <butch> getting cable internet this coming weekend...screw this aol dial up crap..lol
[12:57] <DoloresE> hi butch
[12:57] <Red> yeah... seems to be in a bit of a rush
[12:57] <DoloresE> you will love it butch
[12:57] <butch> hi DoloresE
[12:58] <butch> anythings better than this...grrrr..getting booted all the time..
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[13:00] <tied2> «««««««««««« H e l l o »»»»»»»»»»»»
[13:01] <butch> hi tied2
[13:01] <DoloresE> hello to you tied
[13:01] <tied2> hi D
[13:01] <DoloresE> how did the discussion go yesterday
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[13:02] <QueenVee> HE TIED
[13:02] <QueenVee> hi tied
[13:02] <QueenVee> oops
[13:03] <QueenVee> Dolores: i thought it went well, people in #zetatalk session are more well behaved these days
[13:03] <tied2> ok the log's should be @ZT tomorrow
[13:03] <QueenVee> tied: were you satisfied with nancy's answer to your question?
[13:03] <DoloresE> haven't had much puter time in the past few days ....good to hear that queen
[13:03] <QueenVee> i have the logs if anybody wants them
[13:04] <DoloresE> I'll wait until Nancy gets them on the site ... if and when I get the chance to read them soon
[13:05] <DoloresE> busy busy time of the year
[13:05] <butch> yeah, christmas is be weeks away...haven't bought the first thing...lol
[13:06] <butch> be=but
[13:06] <QueenVee> i stopped observing christmas gift-giving and receiving about 15 years ago; best thing i never did
[13:06] <DoloresE> hey ....a thought just crossed my mind .. this could be our last ( as the way things used to be ) busy X-mas season
[13:07] <Red> sounds familiar buths :\
[13:07] <Red> eeesh... butch that is
[13:07] <butch> lol
[13:07] <butch> yeah, DoloresE
[13:07] <DoloresE> yeah ... I cut many off my list also years ago
[13:07] * Red puts "new fingers" on his list...
[13:08] <DoloresE> you get my drift .... butch ??
[13:08] <tied2> that last pic was very convensing
[13:08] <QueenVee> yeah, they get better all the time
[13:09] <DoloresE> well.... pics or no pics it is coming our way ... PX
[13:10] <tied2> true pic's from on-line ........ are hard to trust either way
[13:12] <butch> are there new pics?
[13:12] <tied2> yep
[13:12] <QueenVee> yeah, as i've said many times, the pics do not loom large in the evidence that i'm looking at....
[13:12] <tied2> it's there bigger than life
[13:13] <Red> I am looking at the bmp ... what am I supposed to see?
[13:13] <tied2> if you been following the pic's it's impressive
[13:13] <tied2> have you been studying them all along?
[13:13] <butch> so, the image is getting brighter?
[13:14] <tied2> much and bigger
[13:14] <butch> steve havas is using an amateur scope right? not an observatory grade?
[13:14] <DoloresE> Am I correct in stating that these pics are in the area of Orion ?
[13:15] <tied2> yes anyone who knows anything about scopes knows a 12" ain't shit even for a amateur
[13:15] <Red> I think so D
[13:15] <tied2> yes
[13:15] <DoloresE> thanks Red and tied
[13:15] <DoloresE> ok
[13:15] <DoloresE> hmmmmmmmm
[13:16] <butch> i'm a novice at astronomy.. we have a small amateur scope havent' tried it out to look for x ...just looking at the moon..
[13:17] <tied2> gainsayers are crying it's some kinda huge observatory but it's just some mediocre scops mounted on some guys deck
[13:17] <QueenVee> well, the part that makes me trust the pics is that the debunkers haven't been able to come up with pics that contradict them....
[13:17] <QueenVee> and you know that if they could -- they would
[13:18] <DoloresE> My hubby and I starting next month are going to Mt. Cuba Observatory and view on a regular basis
[13:18] <tied2> kewl
[13:18] <DoloresE> So .... pics will be taken also
[13:18] <QueenVee> very cool
[13:18] <QueenVee> how exciting
[13:19] <DoloresE> We will get then on the internet for all of you
[13:19] <DoloresE> yes .. very exciting and can't wait
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[13:20] <DoloresE> So these pics will be a better quality with the large scope
[13:21] <QueenVee> well, i understand that the observatory that Havas uses has a pretty large scope....
[13:22] <QueenVee> it's in Arizona
[13:22] <DoloresE> how large is the scope ... do you know Queen
[13:22] <monk> will planet x be visable next year ?
[13:22] <monk> or will the sun be blocking it out
[13:22] <butch> they gonna let you look in that portion of the sky and take pics, DoloresE??
[13:23] <DoloresE> Yes ... butch ... its a private club
[13:23] <QueenVee> Dodie: dunno, just know it's an observatory in Arizona that he uses online for 50 bucks a shot
[13:23] <butch> do others know that you are looking for x particularly or just stargazing in general?
[13:23] <monk> they only have the coords for dec 18 I wonder if they are gonna give us new coords
[13:24] <QueenVee> probably
[13:24] <DoloresE> its doeasn't matter butch ... we can view anywhere we want to
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[13:25] <DoloresE> don't have t pay either ...
[13:25] <QueenVee> that's a bonus!
[13:25] <DoloresE> just have a yearly fee for membership
[13:26] <QueenVee> well, i have to take the dog out (again!).....
[13:26] <QueenVee> be back later
[13:26] <Red> see ya qv
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[13:26] <butch> cool DoloresE...but what i'm asking, is there anyone in your club that knows about x?
[13:27] <DoloresE> just wanted to let you all know .... there are others out here who are looking at the night skies
[13:27] <DoloresE> oh yes butch ...lol
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[13:28] <tied2> «««««««««««« Hello from_Texas »»»»»»»»»»»»
[13:28] <from_Texas> hey tied
[13:28] <tied2> whats up?
[13:28] <DoloresE> At this point Butch ... those others are all out in left field when it comes to PX ..at the club ...lol
[13:28] <from_Texas> nothing here
[13:31] <DoloresE> have to go for now .... I will keep you all updated on the viewing
[13:31] <butch> gotcha
[13:31] <tied2> thanks D
[13:31] <butch> bye DoloresE
[13:31] <DoloresE> :)
[13:31] <DoloresE> laters
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[13:46] <butch> got quiet all of a sudden...
[13:47] <Red> yes it is a bit on the quiet side
[13:47] <Red> I guess we're all m-tasking hehe
[13:48] <obany> brb
[13:48] <Red> butch, have you moved again? Just wondering how you access cable at last...
[13:54] <butch> no, Red...still in the mountains...but i checked into it and can get it...thank god!
[13:55] <from_Texas> going shopping bbl
[13:55] <from_Texas> PGill I see your getting snow today
[13:56] <PGill> yup
[13:56] <PGill> im goign skiing tomarrow
[13:56] <from_Texas> very good
[13:56] <PGill> gonna be great
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[14:06] <butch> hi fetus
[14:06] <obany> hi fetus
[14:06] <butch> hi obany...how've you been?
[14:07] <obany> mmm well fine but this evening i feel a little sick, threw up also
[14:07] <obany> i
[14:07] <butch> sorry to hear that...hope you feel better soon..:)
[14:07] <obany> thnx
[14:08] <butch> i just got over a chest cold last week...that sucked..
[14:08] <butch> been drinking my green tea, and the only drug i used was aspirin...only lasted a couple of day...:)
[14:08] <butch> i've come to love my tea..:)
[14:09] <obany> :)
[14:09] <butch> with honey
[14:10] <obany> sounds good :)
[14:11] <butch> recently saw on the discovery channel , where the egyptians used honey as an antiseptic and wound dressing...no bacteria grows in honey...
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[14:11] <obany> honey yes is good stuff
[14:12] <butch> i've been getting honey from a local beekeeper, i tend not to buy that commercial stuff they sell in the stores...to much processing...
[14:14] <obany> the honey you buy cristalize right?
[14:14] <obany> when it's to cold?
[14:14] <butch> yeah, with the comb still in the jar
[14:17] <obany> :)
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[14:17] <butch> wb, QueenVee
[14:18] <QueenVee> hallo
[14:18] <QueenVee> it's ((((((cold)))))))) outside
[14:18] <butch> know what you mean...it's cold here in the mountains too...
[14:18] <PGill> lol you're tellin me! i just spent 5 minutes in my garage looking for an extension cord on m bare feet!
[14:19] <QueenVee> my dog loves it, though -- we were out for almost an hour and he didn't want to come back in
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[14:20] <Alex> hello my friends!
[14:20] <QueenVee> hello Alex
[14:20] <QueenVee> what's the weather like in Brazil?
[14:21] <Alex> hmmm
[14:21] <Alex> computer\internet!
[14:22] <Alex> hehe
[14:24] <Alex> QueenVee, summer
[14:25] <fetus> sweater weather here
[14:26] <Alex> it gave a small earthquake close to the capital of our state
[14:27] <QueenVee> wow, when?
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[14:27] <LeXar> Hello all
[14:28] <QueenVee> hello Lexar
[14:28] <Alex> today
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[14:29] <Alex-away> it forgives, but I have that to go
[14:29] <Alex-away> bye all
[14:29] <QueenVee> bye Alex
[14:29] <QueenVee> must be using some translation software
[14:29] <LeXar> I have an info red machine now
[14:29] <QueenVee> info red machine?
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[14:30] <LeXar> that's really low demanding in energy
[14:30] <LeXar> yeah
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[14:30] <LeXar> I was testing it's capabilites... very handy
[14:30] <QueenVee> what is an info red machine?
[14:31] <QueenVee> infra red?
[14:31] <LeXar> you can see in the dark
[14:31] <LeXar> yeah
[14:31] <LeXar> sorry
[14:31] <QueenVee> oh
[14:31] <LeXar> I could of said infra red but I went down the popular way of typing it...
[14:32] <butch> bbl
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[14:58] <obany> i think i will go to sleep in a minut or so ... feel realy tired, and was a little ill this evening, stomach problems ..
[14:59] <QueenVee> hope you're feeling better....
[14:59] <Red> Hope you get feeling better
[14:59] <obany> i feel better yes, but sleepy
[14:59] <QueenVee> rest will help
[14:59] <obany> Yes it will
[14:59] <PGill> well, just finished waxing my skiis....hopefully the conditions will be good for tomarrow
[14:59] <QueenVee> cross country?
[15:00] <PGill> alpine
[15:00] <QueenVee> ah
[15:00] <PGill> im on the school racing team
[15:01] <LeXar> I do a whole lot of cross country running ass they say here in Quebec...
[15:01] <LeXar> I'm in the 10th best track & fields runners of my category of the whole province :)
[15:01] <PGill> cool
[15:02] <QueenVee> congrats to both of you
[15:02] <PGill> my team is the worst in the league lol
[15:02] <LeXar> Thanks QV
[15:02] <PGill> but we have a LOT of fun
[15:02] <QueenVee> that's the most important thing
[15:03] <PGill> yup
[15:03] <QueenVee> if it's not fun.... why do it....
[15:03] <LeXar> well... I was the worst several years ago... just a few are capable of matching my strengh now. At least I've got something to brag about... hahah :)
[15:03] <LeXar> yeah same here... I do it for the fun of it and staying in shape
[15:03] <QueenVee> yes, that IS something to brag about...
[15:04] * obany goes now .. bye nite take care
[15:04] <obany> goign to read something and then zzz
[15:04] <QueenVee> i used to be a fitness instructor when i was younger, and was proud of the fact i was the strongest and best instructor at my club....
[15:04] <QueenVee> did it for about 5 years and quit when it stopped being fun
[15:05] * obany goes now bye
[15:05] <QueenVee> bye obany, take care
[15:05] <obany> thank you
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[15:07] <LeXar> well it's my 5 year of running and I love every bit of it
[15:07] <LeXar> I also feel it will be a valued asset in the after time
[15:07] <QueenVee> for sure!
[15:07] <LeXar> endurance
[15:07] <QueenVee> i wish i was still in good shape
[15:08] <QueenVee> though studies show that those who have reached high fitness levels when young are able to regain their fitness very quickly, even many years later
[15:08] <LeXar> well you stated your past abilities to me...
[15:08] <LeXar> sure, start back with 5-minutes-a-day jogs
[15:09] <LeXar> etc.
[15:09] <LeXar> shouldn't be too hard if you balance your momentum
[15:09] <QueenVee> yep
[15:10] <LeXar> I was thinking for our wet log problem
[15:12] <LeXar> starter logs, already ready to set ablaze, are good solutions to start fires with after the pole shift
[15:12] <LeXar> you know, those individualy wrapped logs
[15:14] <QueenVee> and how are you going to keep those dry?
[15:15] <QueenVee> sorry, gotta reboot, be right back
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[15:21] <LeXar> welcome back
[15:21] <LeXar> well continued with your past question
[15:21] <QueenVee> yes/
[15:22] <LeXar> keeping then evelated with covering
[15:22] <LeXar> that's the basic way of sating ir
[15:22] <LeXar> saying it, sorry
[15:23] <QueenVee> well, you might as well just do that with wood
[15:23] <QueenVee> the assumption is that everything will get wet during the poleshift -- and will be hard to dry out after
[15:23] <LeXar> of course, but bringing along some starter wood, will be a very good option when starting fires
[15:24] <LeXar> well that type of wood is already condensed with liquids
[15:24] <LeXar> even if it absorbs water, it won't do so in extreme quantities
[15:24] <QueenVee> well, yes, one can wrap in plastic starter wood, but you can only stock so much of that...
[15:25] <QueenVee> my assumption was that i would stockpile a certain amount of wood in a way that would hopefully keep it dry during the poleshift....
[15:25] <QueenVee> but my question pertained more to what to do when that runs out....
[15:26] <QueenVee> there will be plenty of wood around to burn....
[15:26] <QueenVee> but it will be wet
[15:26] <LeXar> well
[15:26] <QueenVee> so i was thinking in terms of building a wood-drying kiln....
[15:26] <LeXar> meanwhile you use the wood intended to stay dry
[15:27] <LeXar> you'd probably have to chop big logs and form a a barrier of wood
[15:27] <LeXar> plus a light roof to prevent rain to enter that particular location
[15:27] <LeXar> yeah
[15:29] <LeXar> I guess we'll be chopping a whole lot of wood on our side of things... using it to protect... I'm starting to repaet myself here, guess I should stop talking..
[15:29] <LeXar> heh
[15:31] <QueenVee> brb
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[15:32] <LeXar> alright
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[15:36] <butch> hello again
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[15:47] <LeXar> well I'm settling down as well...
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[15:47] <LeXar_AWAY> gonna go grab a bite
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[16:11] <butch> hello again
[16:11] <QueenVee> hello again
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[16:17] <scooby-atwork> hey
[16:17] <Nicke> Hi
[16:18] <QueenVee> hello Nicke
[16:18] <scooby-atwork> hi
[16:18] <Nicke> Hi so how´s it going?
[16:18] <QueenVee> Nicke: not seen you here before -- what brings you to this room?
[16:18] <Nicke> Trubled times you Know
[16:19] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk/troubled times
[16:19] <Nicke> About 3 months now
[16:19] <Nicke> And you?
[16:20] <QueenVee> well, i've been aware of the poleshift since i was very young, but encountered zetatalk about a year ago
[16:20] <QueenVee> so how seriously do you take the poleshift? have you started to prepare?
[16:20] <Nicke> Ok, and how did you found out about it when you were young?
[16:21] <QueenVee> well, it's a long story.... so how seriously do you take the poleshift? have you started to prepare?
[16:22] <Nicke> No but i want to, but i dont understand how?
[16:22] <QueenVee> have you read the zetatalk site? where do you live?
[16:23] <Nicke> I live in Sweden..
[16:24] <Nicke> I have read the site but i dont really understand what the dangers are? Whats going to happen with the earth?
[16:24] <QueenVee> Nicke: you can't have read the site if you are asking that question
[16:24] <QueenVee> it's all very clearly explained on this site, in the POLESHIFT section
[16:25] <Nicke> Ok im going to look more
[16:25] <QueenVee> :-)
[16:27] <Nicke> Ok but where are it safe to be?
[16:28] <QueenVee> nowhere is "safe", but some places are less dangerous than others
[16:28] <QueenVee> read the "Safe Locations" section
[16:28] <Nicke> Ok
[16:29] <Nicke> Ok so if i stay in sweden im going to be in big trubble right.
[16:30] <QueenVee> is that what it tells you?
[16:30] <Nicke> Yes
[16:30] <Nicke> Pole melt
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[16:30] <QueenVee> you clearly didn't read it
[16:31] <QueenVee> http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx025.htm
[16:31] <LeXar> I don't know how much minutes I laughed in a row at supper table but... it sure felt good
[16:31] <Nicke> Ok im going to look again
[16:32] <Nicke> ok its safe but, the core melt is really close
[16:32] <Nicke> oh the pole melt i mean
[16:34] <QueenVee> Those who would survive should go inland, up into the mountains, until several days after the shift
[16:36] <Nicke> Ok, But i am not that good in english so explain what 4rd Density is
[16:37] <QueenVee> what language are you most comfortable with?
[16:37] <Nicke> Swedish
[16:37] <QueenVee> here is the Swedish version of the ZetaTalk site: http://www.zetatalk.com/swedish/zetahome.htm
[16:38] <Nicke> ok thanx
[16:39] <Nicke> Im going to explore it more now, i´ll be back.
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[16:40] <QueenVee> hi fetus
[16:41] <fetus> hi hi
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[16:42] <butch> anyone awake here?
[16:42] <fetus> .
[16:43] <QueenVee> just us chickens
[16:44] <fetus> squaak
[16:44] <fetus> or something like that
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[16:47] <fetus> whats a good world wide weather webpage?
[16:47] <fetus> wwww
[16:48] <QueenVee> good question -- dunno
[16:48] <LeXar> butch, sound and fine here!
[16:48] <QueenVee> let me know if you find one
[16:53] <LeXar> QV, you've got meteomedia in Ontario?
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[16:54] <QueenVee> meteomedia?
[16:54] <LeXar> alright, nevermind, it's a Quebec weather station
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[17:14] <from_Texas> try www.intelicast.com for world weather
[17:15] <from_Texas> http://www.intellicast.com/ helps to spell correctly
[17:17] <QueenVee> great tex
[17:17] <QueenVee> okay, i need some help....
[17:18] <from_Texas> with the site
[17:18] <QueenVee> is there a word that would encompass earthquakes, volcanoes and weather data?
[17:18] <QueenVee> i don't think so....
[17:19] <from_Texas> unless climate would pick that information up
[17:19] <QueenVee> not bad....
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[17:20] <skeleton> hello
[17:20] <skeleton> how is everyone ?
[17:20] <QueenVee> wow, hi skeleton...
[17:20] <QueenVee> long time no see
[17:20] <skeleton> yeah
[17:20] <skeleton> life is busy
[17:20] <skeleton> IRC not always possible for discussing zetatalk
[17:20] <QueenVee> in a good way i hope
[17:20] <skeleton> the last two sessions i just read from yesterday were very very good
[17:20] <QueenVee> yes, i agree
[17:21] <QueenVee> lots of useful info
[17:23] <skeleton> the more time i spend reading zetatalk or chatting on IRC the more i realize these actions are futile
[17:23] <skeleton> only real life matters now
[17:23] <skeleton> zetatalk has guided and advised enough
[17:23] <from_Texas> Mexico - Climate - includes historic climatic data on temperatures,
[17:23] <from_Texas> rainfall and humidity and weather forecasts
[17:24] <from_Texas> so i think that is not the right word
[17:24] <QueenVee> skeleton: i think you're right
[17:24] <QueenVee> nothing to do but prepare now....
[17:24] <QueenVee> Tex: well, i've just gone with this: QUAKE/VOLCANO/WEATHER DATA
[17:25] <skeleton> i also feel sad because i dont want to be an individual of limp and undecided orientation but i know my nature and i know i wont prepare sufficiently or organize because of lack of resources, bad motivation problems and uncooperative family
[17:26] <QueenVee> well, if you don't expect to survive the shift, you're right, nothing to do but live the rest of your life as fully and meaningfully as possible
[17:26] <fetus> GO HARD!!
[17:26] <skeleton> oh i never said im not expecting to survive the shift
[17:26] <skeleton> just because i dont have the good motivation or the preparation going on doesnt mean ive resolved myself or my family and loved ones to die
[17:27] <QueenVee> oh.... ok
[17:27] <skeleton> i dont really give up like that
[17:28] <skeleton> perhaps if i was sick or ill
[17:28] <skeleton> but im young, and wise
[17:28] <skeleton> just suffering from motivation and esteem issues, and being poor and with no one who wants to prepare
[17:29] <QueenVee> well, you're not making a lot of sense -- you know you won't/can't prepare, but you expect to live anyway....
[17:29] <QueenVee> you've resolved to just have faith, then?
[17:29] <skeleton> no
[17:29] <skeleton> i dont have faith in anything saving me
[17:29] <skeleton> i just dont assume i will die
[17:29] <skeleton> circumstances can change
[17:30] <skeleton> if planet x is in the sky, then it might be easier to convince people
[17:30] <skeleton> and begin to act
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[17:30] <HBO> QueenVee, hi
[17:30] <from_Texas> what part of the world are you in skeleton
[17:30] <skeleton> new england
[17:31] <QueenVee> hi HBO
[17:31] <HBO> I've only got a couple of minutes, but I wanted to ask a question of the group
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[17:31] <QueenVee> HBO, skeleton isn't new here, he used to come here a while ago
[17:31] <QueenVee> shoot, HBO
[17:31] <HBO> has anyone been feeling an unexplained sense of anxiety in the last 24 hours?
[17:32] <HBO> I mean, extreme
[17:32] <QueenVee> no, i can't say i have
[17:32] <QueenVee> although i did after i read that article about Cheney
[17:32] <monk> what do u mean anxiety?
[17:32] <QueenVee> i had a heart-in-my-mouth feeling that lasted about an hour
[17:32] <HBO> I mean, inner fear, desperation, apprehension
[17:33] <HBO> more intense than I've ever felt
[17:33] <QueenVee> HBO: i know what you're talking about, though; i have it about once a week related to the poleshift
[17:33] <HBO> like, there's a burglar in the basement, or something like that
[17:33] <monk> hbo: yea I felt depressed earlier
[17:34] <monk> but now im good
[17:34] <HBO> I think maybe yesterday's chats were extremly somber
[17:34] <QueenVee> i think no matter how convinced we are by the evidence, we will experience that on a regular basis as further evidence and time brings the reality of it closer and closer
[17:34] <QueenVee> HBO: i think it's related to the pics, maybe
[17:35] <HBO> more and more definite realization?
[17:35] <QueenVee> yes
[17:35] <HBO> I'm not used to being out of control of my emotions
[17:35] <HBO> not a comfortable feeling, for sure
[17:35] <QueenVee> i felt that way after reading that article about cheney's bunker earlier today....
[17:36] <HBO> where is that article?
[17:36] <QueenVee> the REALITY that they are really PREPARING for something
[17:36] <QueenVee> hold on.
[17:36] <QueenVee> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24386-2002Dec7.html
[17:37] <HBO> I also re-read something on Samsara's site today re: Edgar Cayce, and realized it was spot on
[17:38] <QueenVee> this line really hite me: "...please understand we are severely constrained by operation requirements to perform this project on a highly accelerated schedule; therefore, it will not be possible to limit construction activities to the daytime as you request..."
[17:38] <HBO> the prediction that when Etna continually oozed, and the south seas were undergoing continous action, and the mediterranean was shaowing a rising land (the island off of Greece)
[17:38] <HBO> then the time was to be at hand
[17:39] <QueenVee> yes.....
[17:39] <HBO> sometimes, I wish I were less inquisitive
[17:39] <LeXar> well Italy and Greece are starting to bite it hard enough nowadays
[17:40] <QueenVee> HBO: i hear ya....
[17:40] <LeXar> I worry of the people surrounding not having any knowledge of the catastrophe...
[17:40] <LeXar> some of them insist that "something's not right" ... without knowing they know something...
[17:42] <HBO> yeah, my wife is suffering severe depression at the moment, and I've got to get to IN to give her some support
[17:42] <HBO> I've told her the basics, but she doesn't want any details
[17:43] <LeXar> well I get depressed when you see people you COULD try to save, but that you know they won't listen
[17:43] <HBO> I'll talk to you guys later tonite, bye
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[17:43] <LeXar> alright, bye HBO
[18:05] <skeleton> bbl guys
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[18:10] <scooby-atwork> lol
[18:10] <scooby-atwork> nice signoff
[18:13] <monk> whos Don?
[18:14] <QueenVee> probably skeleton
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[18:33] <scooby-atwork> anyone have a link to get to yesterday's logs? I won't be home for a while and can't seem to remote into my computer at home...
[18:34] <scooby-atwork> never mind
[18:34] <scooby-atwork> found it on the ste
[18:34] <scooby-atwork> site
[18:35] <scooby-atwork> QV: does Nancy ever see the questions in advance of the session?
[18:36] <QueenVee> scooby: yes, sometimes
[18:36] <scooby-atwork> but typically not
[18:36] <scooby-atwork> ?
[18:36] <QueenVee> i'd say it's half and half
[18:36] <scooby-atwork> hmmm... well that makes it even more credible (to me at least....)
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[18:41] <inkpen> hello
[18:41] <from_Texas> hey ink
[18:41] <QueenVee> hi ink
[18:41] <inkpen> hows every one?
[18:42] <QueenVee> good
[18:42] <from_Texas> good.. went and looked at land today
[18:42] <inkpen> relocation land?
[18:42] <from_Texas> yes sir
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[18:42] <QueenVee> wow
[18:42] <QueenVee> where?
[18:43] <inkpen> cool
[18:43] <from_Texas> still in texas... but another 850' higher than here
[18:45] <from_Texas> 10 acres.. cut out of 800 acre ranch
[18:45] <inkpen> nice
[18:46] <QueenVee> every foot of elevation counts
[18:46] <QueenVee> north of where you are?
[18:47] <from_Texas> that would be 2495'
[18:50] <from_Texas> good black dirt for growing... very unusual for this part of texas.. most is red clay
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[18:51] <QueenVee> you're in abilene, right?
[18:51] <from_Texas> yes
[18:52] <QueenVee> so how far and in what direction from abilene?
[18:52] <from_Texas> i sent you topographic map of texas and marked where we are
[18:52] <from_Texas> it is south west of here about 20 miles
[18:53] <QueenVee> no, i mean your new place
[18:53] <from_Texas> 20 miles sw of abilene
[18:53] <QueenVee> ah, ok
[18:54] <from_Texas> if your looking at the map i sent.. it is getting up into the brown.. above 2000'
[18:54] <QueenVee> so does the land have any buildings?
[18:55] <from_Texas> house, barn, well, cellar
[18:55] <QueenVee> excellent
[18:55] <QueenVee> how old is the house?
[18:56] <from_Texas> stone construction, most likely built in 60's.. but remodeled since then
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[18:57] <inkpen> hi again
[18:57] <from_Texas> wb
[18:58] <inkpen> my computer sucks, my hd gets worse and worse daily
[18:58] <from_Texas> do i need to send you a new one
[18:58] <QueenVee> that sounds good, tex -- the house imean
[18:58] <inkpen> heh
[19:00] <from_Texas> only went out to look today to see if it even came close to filling the bill.. looks good. will make appointment to see inside.. they had a bunch of dogs
[19:00] <inkpen> dog herders
[19:00] <from_Texas> so didn't get to walk around... but scoped out the entire area and have looked at areial photos
[19:00] <QueenVee> good start
[19:01] <from_Texas> has 10' fence around entire 400 acres... will be goat herder
[19:02] <inkpen> heh...good to have,goats. You can make cheese
[19:02] <from_Texas> they are hardy too
[19:02] <inkpen> mm yes
[19:03] <inkpen> (*_*)
[19:03] <from_Texas> the ajoining land has a 400 acre church camp
[19:04] <QueenVee> and goats will eat anything
[19:05] <from_Texas> just think they will be a stock animal that is low maintaince
[19:06] <QueenVee> "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" is on TV right now.... great film....
[19:06] <from_Texas> indeed
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[19:08] <from_Texas> QV go read the plantx2003 email you just got
[19:08] <QueenVee> k
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[19:09] <HBO> QueenVee, I'm back :)
[19:10] <HBO> just read the Cheney article, and checked Wash DC on Safe Locs
[19:10] <QueenVee> wb
[19:10] <QueenVee> Tex: no email...
[19:10] <from_Texas> i will forward
[19:11] <QueenVee> oh, you mean it's on the listserve? i don't get direct emails
[19:11] <from_Texas> yes.. but i just mailed it
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[19:12] <HBO2> taht was weird
[19:13] <scooby-atwork> could anyone post that cheney article link again, I think it has scrolled past my window
[19:13] <QueenVee> Tex: well, i don't understand it.... but sounds ominous....
[19:13] <QueenVee> a good question for next saturday
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[19:14] <scooby-atwork> bye HBO
[19:14] <scooby-atwork> lol
[19:14] <QueenVee> scooby: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24386-2002Dec7.html
[19:14] <HBO2> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24386-2002Dec7.html
[19:14] <scooby-atwork> thanks!
[19:14] <HBO2> I'm still here, got disconected, but the list kept my nick up ?
[19:15] <scooby-atwork> i know...
[19:15] <QueenVee> that happens, HBO
[19:15] <scooby-atwork> you didn't get disco'd till after you rejoined
[19:15] <scooby-atwork> you are now HBO2
[19:15] <HBO2> yeah, we try harder
[19:17] <from_Texas> i agree QV.. not sure i understand it all either
[19:17] <scooby-atwork> interesting article.... but won't the terrorists know where Cheney lives now?
[19:17] <scooby-atwork> lol... terrorists... good cover Dick
[19:17] <scooby-atwork> off to dinner, y'all
[19:18] <HBO2> bye, scooby
[19:18] <QueenVee> bye scoob
[19:18] <LeXar> bye scooby
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[19:19] <HBO2> at lunch? where is Scoob?
[19:20] <QueenVee> dinner -- he's on the west coast
[19:20] <HBO2> ok
[19:21] <HBO2> jsut finished a steak and a couple (or was it 4) stiff ones, feel somewhat better now :)
[19:21] <from_Texas> he also works late shift... so he considers it his lunch break
[19:21] <HBO2> ahhh
[19:22] <HBO2> late shifts suck
[19:23] <HBO2> have the latest pix been transformed to JPG yet? I cn't open fits files
[19:23] <QueenVee> HBO: yes
[19:24] <HBO2> on the tt-teams site?
[19:25] <QueenVee> go here and check out the 12/4/02 section: http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
[19:25] <HBO2> ok,brb
[19:29] <HBO2> damn, dial up sure is slow
[19:34] <LeXar> unfortunately
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[19:41] <HBO2> well, the circled object in the summary sure seems a lot larger than last month
[19:41] <HBO2> old Wormwood would seem to be picking up some speed
[19:44] <QueenVee> yep
[19:44] <HBO2> anything new on Sci.Astro?
[19:45] <QueenVee> sorry, dog is scratching on the door. brb.
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[19:46] <HBO2> ok, going to some some reading and go to bed...nite all
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[19:52] <LeXar> well I've still got this college project to cpmlete
[19:52] <LeXar> and after reading some more Medical plants info
[19:54] <scooby-atlunch> yes...
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[20:26] <LeXar> so how was your walk?
[20:27] <QueenVee> good, but my dog is driving me crazy
[20:27] <LeXar> Do you think your dog will be an asset in the A T?
[20:27] <QueenVee> no, not the dog i have right now; he is very old -- 16
[20:27] <QueenVee> i will put him down if he doesn't die before then
[20:28] <QueenVee> but i intend to get another
[20:28] <LeXar> oh really?
[20:28] <LeXar> I'm about to stock up with a load of medical herbs
[20:29] <QueenVee> good idea
[20:29] <LeXar> I'm half way down this encyclopedia on medical herbs
[20:29] <LeXar> some are real expensive
[20:29] <LeXar> but their properties are most appealing
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[20:43] <froggy> hi
[20:44] <QueenVee> hi froggy
[20:48] <tied2> H E L L O
[20:48] <tied2> whats up?
[20:48] <QueenVee> not much here
[20:49] <tied2> any news today?
[20:49] <monk> hi
[20:50] <QueenVee> have you seen this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24386-2002Dec7.html
[20:56] <tied2> no I hadn't
[20:58] <scooby-atwork> "If the federal government is not being a good neighbor, we'll elevate the issue to a level where something can be done," Patterson said. "We want to know what we can know about what they're up to and if they are able to be a bit more responsive."
[20:58] <QueenVee> sounds like they're expecting something very soon: "...please understand we are severely constrained by operation requirements to perform this project on a highly accelerated schedule; therefore, it will not be possible to limit construction activities to the daytime as you request..."
[20:58] <tied2> probably some kinda bunker
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[20:59] <QueenVee> hi fetus
[20:59] <fetus> hello
[21:00] <QueenVee> they've declared a state of emergency in Greece due to weather conditions, flooding, etc; and just last week there was a strong earthquake there
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[21:03] <inkpen> hello
[21:03] <LeXar> It's coming
[21:03] <tied2> «««««««««««« Hello inkpen »»»»»»»»»»»»
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[21:06] <tied2> yeah it is
[21:06] <inkpen> whats coming?
[21:06] <tied2> notice hoe some of the gainsayers in TT are changing there mind now that that pic was released?
[21:06] <QueenVee> uh huh
[21:07] <scooby-atwork> howmo?
[21:07] <QueenVee> it just gets more and more intresting
[21:07] <QueenVee> and apparently Freax got very upset, saying he was tired of trying to see sense, and wouldn't be coming back....
[21:08] <tied2> I guess Freax left and said he wasn't coming back because he couldn't convince people it was a hoax anymore
[21:08] <tied2> lol
[21:09] <QueenVee> yep, when you're losing.... it's time to leave the field....
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[21:15] <tied2> I like Freax but he would go off on some wild shit
[21:16] <LeXar> Well I guess I'll go lay down to get some rest
[21:16] <tied2> him and 3j claim that Himitsu and I are the same person lol
[21:16] <LeXar> G'night everyone, I'm diving into my reading
[21:16] <tied2> nite
[21:17] <QueenVee> nite
[21:17] <QueenVee> they're a strange bunch
[21:17] <scooby-atwork> nite
[21:17] <scooby-atwork> tied: you're not????
[21:17] <tied2> scooby whats for lunch?
[21:17] <scooby-atwork> snacks
[21:17] <scooby-atwork> lol
[21:17] <scooby-atwork> i had a calzone
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[21:18] <tied2> oh kewl
[21:19] <tied2> they think that because we use the exact same irc clients and OS 's
[21:20] <scooby-atwork> lol
[21:23] <fetus> http://www.troubled-times.com/awakening/ just found this page..good page
[21:25] <tied2> anyone been watching that new mini series's "taken"
[21:26] <tied2> it looks like Spielberg ripped off half his stuff from Zetatalk
[21:26] <QueenVee> like what?
[21:26] <tied2> the Aliens are zeta's
[21:27] <tied2> form zeta reticular
[21:27] <tied2> implants in the head
[21:27] <tied2> unless that stuff was around before Nancy?
[21:27] <QueenVee> way way way before, tied
[21:28] <fetus> wow...what is this show again?
[21:28] <fetus> what channel?
[21:29] <tied2> taken on sci fi
[21:30] <tied2> oh well my bad then I have only learned all this Alien stuff in the last 4 years
[21:31] <QueenVee> there's a wealth of abduction literature that pre-dates ZetaTalk by many years
[21:31] <tied2> I grew up 5 miles from where they took the Roswell Aliens and as a child growing up there were constant rumors of Aliens there ...buyt I never heard the term Zeta
[21:32] <QueenVee> it comes from the Barnie and Betty Hill abduction account -- that's in ZetaTalk
[21:32] <tied2> oh
[21:32] <QueenVee> that's when the term started
[21:32] <fetus> is "taken" on space ?
[21:32] <tied2> on the sci fi channel
[21:33] <fetus> i wonder if its on space too...all i get is space
[21:33] <fetus> did the usgs downplay the greece quake
[21:33] <fetus> ?
[21:33] <tied2> I thin ZP has been d/l ing it from the Usenet server
[21:33] <fetus> i heard from 2 sources 5.8...its listed as 5.4 on the site..
[21:34] <QueenVee> yep
[21:35] <fetus> i wouldnt be surprised if alot of those quakes are down .4 to .5
[21:35] <tied2> there little game is, if you look at the bottom of the page there's a little disclaimer that says they may be revised later so when it's not front page they go back later and change it
[21:35] <fetus> thats just so obvious...have they down this in the past...pre 2000?
[21:35] <QueenVee> fetus: they only started doing this a couple of months ago
[21:36] <fetus> wow
[21:36] <fetus> take a hoot..
[21:37] <QueenVee> fetus: this is the site to use for accurate earthquake reports: http://www.emsc-csem.org/cgi-bin/ALERT_all_messages.sh
[21:37] <QueenVee> all you have to do is compare the reports on that site with the USGS to see how much they're underreporting
[21:38] <fetus> http://www.iris.edu/seismon/ i've been using this...but i think its connected to the usgs.
[21:38] <fetus> thanks qv
[21:38] <QueenVee> their big trick is to take several quakes in the same area, average out their intensities, and then call it one earthquake
[21:39] <QueenVee> so if there's a 5.9 quake followed by three 5.2 afterquakes, it gets reported as one 5.4 quake...
[21:41] <fetus> http://www.iris.edu/seismon/ this site dosent have the latest quakes ....
[21:41] <QueenVee> no, that's connected with the usgs
[21:41] <fetus> its missing most of today..
[21:42] <fetus> there should be at least 5 or 6 read flashing circles..
[21:42] <fetus> 8 to be exact.
[21:44] <fetus> thats f*cked
[21:46] <QueenVee> yeah, it kinda freaked me out when they started to do that...
[21:46] <QueenVee> because what possible reason could there be for suddenly underreporting earthquakes?
[21:46] <fetus> it would look alarming to have 8 red flashing circles daily...sometimes more..
[21:48] <QueenVee> basically, if the quakes occur where there is no population or structural damage, they get ignored....
[21:48] <fetus> so if all is on schedual...those numbers should be in the low sixes in the next few months?
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[21:49] <johnnie5> hello. new member here.
[21:49] <QueenVee> hello Johnnie, welcome
[21:49] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room?
[21:49] <fetus> hi j5
[21:49] <johnnie5> zetatalk
[21:49] <QueenVee> fetus: yes, we should be seeing a steady increase in the depth of the quakes, as we have been for some time now
[21:50] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[21:50] <johnnie5> last weekend.
[21:50] <monk> any of you ever hear about 200 degree tempatures in new mexico ?
[21:50] <monk> is that normal ?
[21:50] <fetus> monk...need a link for that one..
[21:50] <fetus> pretty sure thats not normal.
[21:51] <monk> during the summer I think it was
[21:51] <QueenVee> johnnie: so you probably haven't even read the material on the zetatalk site yet....
[21:51] <johnnie5> about half.
[21:51] <monk> half of it ? you must of been reading all week long
[21:52] <johnnie5> yep.
[21:52] <QueenVee> yeah, most people have that reaction to it, it's hard to put down, so to speak
[21:52] <johnnie5> i'm kinda freaked out.
[21:53] <QueenVee> where do you live?
[21:53] <johnnie5> minnesota.
[21:53] <QueenVee> well, that's a very good place to be during and after the shift
[21:54] <johnnie5> so zetatalk says. i'm still a little scared, though. six months away...
[21:54] <QueenVee> well, preparation is key
[21:55] <johnnie5> i know. i'm trying.
[21:55] <QueenVee> at least you don't have to relocate
[21:55] <johnnie5> i guess so.
[21:57] <johnnie5> i should warn you i'm a slow typer.
[21:58] <QueenVee> np
[21:59] <johnnie5> it's all so complicated. first the meteors, then get out in the open and lie down for the slide. know what i mean?
[21:59] <fetus> night all
[21:59] <fetus> blip
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[21:59] <QueenVee> yes
[22:00] <johnnie5> i just don't know how much the american plate will move. not sure what to do.
[22:02] <QueenVee> well, the ZetaTalk site gives some pretty specific instructions on how to prepare.....
[22:02] <QueenVee> what to do when
[22:04] <johnnie5> i know. i'm still nervous. i am also preparing a care package for after the shift. i'm wondering if the zeta's or other et's may lift the package to a sto group if i don't live through the shift.
[22:06] <johnnie5> does anyone know?
[22:06] <QueenVee> no, that won't happen
[22:06] <tied2> Johnnie I wouldn't count on ANY help
[22:06] <johnnie5> are you sure?
[22:06] <QueenVee> yes
[22:07] <johnnie5> bummer. i'll have to try to get it through myself, then.
[22:08] <QueenVee> well, a good start is to read the zetatalk material really thoroughly....
[22:08] <QueenVee> once you get the basics there on how the poleshift will go down, basic preparations, etc....
[22:08] <tied2> Johnnie just take precautions ood's are you'll be ok
[22:09] <johnnie5> i will. right now. bye, and thank you.
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[22:09] <QueenVee> well, i have to reboot. brb.
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[22:25] <scooby-atwork> hey
[22:25] <scooby-atwork> this has to be a typo:
[22:25] <scooby-atwork> (NancyL) ZT: Sweden is a country that is isolated from others by water, and is limiting immigration today as it is considered a desireable social demoncracy in which to live.
[22:25] <scooby-atwork> demoncracy.... i don't think nancy is that sarcastic, is she?
[22:25] <QueenVee> obviously a typo
[22:26] <scooby-atwork> freudian slip???
[22:26] <scooby-atwork> she is human....
[22:26] <QueenVee> no
[22:26] <QueenVee> she admires social democracies
[22:26] <scooby-atwork> i do too, i just think it was funny...
[22:27] <QueenVee> now if she had been talking about the US....
[22:27] <scooby-atwork> that's what I'm saying...
[22:27] <scooby-atwork> freudian slip...
[22:27] <QueenVee> but she wasn't, she was talking about Sweden
[22:28] <scooby-atwork> i know, that's where the freudian part comes in...
[22:28] <scooby-atwork> the US is a demoncracy....
[22:28] <QueenVee> you're not making any sense
[22:28] <scooby-atwork> never mind... i am trying too hard to multitask....
[22:28] <scooby-atwork> it makes sense to me.
[22:28] <scooby-atwork> lol
[22:28] <QueenVee> i'm sure it does
[22:28] <scooby-atwork> :)
[22:29] <scooby-atwork> i had some frineds in from LA this weekend and I mentioned the ps to one of them and he goes, "oh, yeah, I heard about that"
[22:29] <scooby-atwork> And I said, "When?"
[22:30] <scooby-atwork> he says "in like 1999"
[22:30] <scooby-atwork> said he heard about it from a site called disinfo.com
[22:30] <QueenVee> mmm
[22:30] <scooby-atwork> and that they are a conspiracy theory site
[22:30] <scooby-atwork> that angle kinda surprised me
[22:30] <scooby-atwork> but makes sense
[22:30] <scooby-atwork> and he said that he thought the date was in 2001 sometime
[22:31] <scooby-atwork> and I said, "The lady I heard said it was in May of 2003"
[22:31] <scooby-atwork> and he said "Yeah, May, but I thought it was supposed to be 2001"
[22:31] <scooby-atwork> then he goes, "well, maybe I got my dates wrong."
[22:32] <scooby-atwork> we looked up that site and couldn't really easily find anything pole shift related
[22:32] <scooby-atwork> it was a couple years ago....
[22:32] <QueenVee> probably just a passing reference
[22:32] <scooby-atwork> hmmmm
[22:34] <scooby-atwork> anyone read this book: The Celestial Clock
[22:34] <scooby-atwork> The Celestial Clock employs a unified theory of natural cyclicity, which reaches apocalyptic proportions in every 11,500 - 23,000 years.
[22:34] <scooby-atwork> The book reveals the sacred symbology of the Seven Stars of Pleiades, serpents, dragons, scorpions, lamb and bull along with indisputable scientific proof that the Mayan Calendar is based on the 23,000 year ice volume collapse cycles recently discovered in ocean sedimentation and ice core drill down studies from Greenland and Antarctica. It is the dominant cycle of the "100,000" year Milankovitch ice age theory.
[22:35] <scooby-atwork> http://www.celestialclock.com/overview.cgi
[22:35] <QueenVee> yes, i've heard about it
[22:53] <scooby-atwork> here is a nice breakdown of increased volcanic activity on Mt. Etna and others:
[22:53] <scooby-atwork> http://www.yowusa.com/Archive/November2002/earth_changes1/earth_changes1.htm
[22:54] <QueenVee> yes, i saw that... very interesting
[22:55] <QueenVee> that sites provides a lot of poleshift and PX related information
[22:55] <monk> bye queenvee
[22:55] <monk> goodnight \
[22:55] <monk> bye scooby doe
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[22:55] <scooby-atwork> nite
[22:55] <scooby-atwork> yes it does
[22:55] <QueenVee> nite
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[22:56] <scooby-atwork> i was saying nite to monk
[22:57] <QueenVee> so was i
[22:57] <scooby-atwork> :)
[23:18] <QueenVee> goodnite, scooby
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[23:40] <inkpen> ello
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[23:48] <scooby-atwork> nite!!!!
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