Session Start: Sun Dec 15 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:12] <scooby-doo> nite ralf!
[00:12] <scooby-doo> I'm off for tonite....
[00:12] <scooby-doo> see ya manyana
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[01:03] <rnthomas> Yawn
[01:04] <rnthomas> Well time for MOI to hit the hay folks... Be Back in the morning...
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[01:32] <HenoC> ....
[01:32] <HenoC> fetus...odd..
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[02:28] <alex2221> Ralf: what is this channel of yours?
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[02:56] <Jurian> http://www.troubled-times.com/fits/ <-- Latest FITS files, for those of you who want them.. :)
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[05:31] <Mugada> hi
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[06:05] <SCDee55> hi everyone
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[06:51] <Zetapal> . ~~* .o O
[06:55] <Zetapal> anybody home?
[06:58] <fetus> anyone around
[06:58] <fetus> ??
[06:58] <Zetapal> hey fetus
[06:59] <fetus> hey zp
[06:59] <Zetapal> its like a morgue
[06:59] <Zetapal> in here
[06:59] <fetus> man sci astro is brutal, I've just been reading some of it....what a discrace of a news group..
[06:59] <fetus> very quite in here..
[07:00] <Zetapal> listen I just reconfigured my firewall to get DCC send to work, let me try sending you something ok
[07:00] <fetus> I cant recieve dcc
[07:00] <fetus> sorry
[07:00] <Zetapal> ok no prob
[07:02] <Zetapal> how were you accessing sci-astro "newsgroup" ? are you referring to a bullitin board, a webpage, or a newsgroup on usenet?
[07:03] <fetus> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&group=sci.astro
[07:06] <fetus> not one person has ever post counter images.....but there all very quick to start calling crazy's..
[07:06] <tied2> good morning all
[07:07] <Zetapal> hi tied
[07:07] <tied2> «««««««««««« Hello Zetapal »»»»»»»»»»»»
[07:07] <Zetapal> tied let me try sending you something - just made those changes you sent me last week
[07:08] <tied2> ok
[07:09] <tied2> failed
[07:09] <Zetapal> theres another problem which may be related - when i logged on it said in Main window:
[07:10] <Zetapal> -NickServ- Your hostmask is not valid for account Zetapal.
[07:10] <tied2> try adjusting the 8000-9000 to 1025-5000 in both mirc and router
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[07:10] <Zetapal> so what is this hostmask thing? you know?
[07:11] <tied2> it's the channel server not reconising your confugeration
[07:11] <Zetapal> ok . . . . . . .
[07:12] <tied2> dcc mean direct client to client and it doesn't go thru the channel server so that shouldn't effect it
[07:13] <Zetapal> so ok - what could be the problem with nickserve
[07:14] <Zetapal> I actually don't see very many people getting op'ed anywhere do you?
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[07:41] <from_Texas> good morning all
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[07:42] <from_Texas> tied... you in there
[07:43] <tied2> yes
[07:43] <from_Texas> how are you today
[07:43] <tied2> good and you?
[07:43] <from_Texas> very good.. going to be a nice day today.. 60 and sunny here
[07:43] <tied2> kewl
[07:56] <from_Texas> how is ohio
[07:57] <tied2> something else is wrong
[07:58] <from_Texas> what is that
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[08:29] <obany> hi
[08:30] <cmell> hi
[08:30] <from_Texas> hi
[08:30] <alex2221> hi
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[09:10] <QueenVee> hi -- anybody here?
[09:10] <obany> i am :)
[09:11] <obany> at least i think i am :P
[09:11] <QueenVee> good morning obany
[09:11] <QueenVee> good sessions yesterday
[09:11] <cmell> hi
[09:11] <cmell> yes
[09:11] <tex-away> I just love it when you walkin kick'n ass and take'n names
[09:11] <QueenVee> people have been pretty well behaved in #zetatalk....
[09:11] <QueenVee> lol
[09:12] <QueenVee> well, sometimes i just wake up in that kind of mood
[09:12] <QueenVee> hehe
[09:13] <tex-away> on your toes all the time
[09:13] <QueenVee> if anybody's interested, the logs of yesterday's sessions are now up on the SHIFT2003 website: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8
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[09:16] <QueenVee> hello yggdrasil
[09:16] <yggdrasil> hi
[09:16] <QueenVee> there was a flash-flood warning for California's Sacremento Valley yesterday -- anybody know what came of it?
[09:17] <tex-away> Rain-swollen rivers across Northern California rose to flood levels, while
[09:17] <tex-away> high winds, dangerous surf, snow and even a rare coastal tornado greeted
[09:17] <tex-away> soggy residents Saturday.
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[09:17] <QueenVee> hello k000t
[09:18] <QueenVee> tex: you're like an instant weather report
[09:18] <k000t> hi queen vee
[09:18] <k000t> hows your planet today
[09:18] <tex-away> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20021215/ap_on_re_us/western_storms_1
[09:18] <tex-away> lol.. ty
[09:18] <QueenVee> K00t: are you "Zekoot" from yesterday?
[09:23] <QueenVee> K00t: ARE YOU THERE?
[09:24] <QueenVee> x
[09:24] <QueenVee> tex: another report indicates that "A potentially bigger storm is set to arrive by Sunday evening"....
[09:24] <tex-away> yes indeed
[09:24] <tex-away> so flooding could be bad by morning
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[09:30] <obany> i will return a little later
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[09:30] <QueenVee> hello alex
[09:31] <alex2221> hello
[09:32] <alex2221> i'll try to bring weinstein here in the next minutes
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[09:34] <k000t> hi sorry Queen Vee, domestic duties suddenly apeared
[09:34] <k000t> im in the UK
[09:34] <QueenVee> k00t: are you Zek000t from yesterday?
[09:34] <k000t> yes
[09:35] <QueenVee> ok -- can you use a consistent nickname in here, it's less confusing that way.... thanks
[09:35] <k000t> k000t's shorter
[09:35] <k000t> no problem
[09:35] <QueenVee> whereabouts in the UK are you?
[09:35] <k000t> how are you ?
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[09:36] <QueenVee> i'm good
[09:36] <QueenVee> hi zetapal
[09:36] <Zetapal> Hi Queen
[09:36] <k000t> ive done quite a bit of reading lastnite and today, education,
[09:36] <QueenVee> the zetatalk site?
[09:37] <k000t> my girlfreind is also cool and open and making some plans
[09:37] <Zetapal> JUST GOT MY DCC SEND WORKING !!! thx to tied
[09:37] <QueenVee> zp: were you here for the sessions yesterday?
[09:37] <Zetapal> of course silly
[09:37] <QueenVee> you're the man, tied
[09:37] <QueenVee> alright, alright...
[09:37] <QueenVee> yes, of course you were
[09:38] <QueenVee> anyways, just wanted to let you (and everyone else) know that the logs from yesterday's zetatalk sessions are now up on the SHIFT2003 site: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8
[09:38] <k000t> be rite back
[09:38] <QueenVee> i'll be putting them up there as soon as possible after the sessions from now on, just click on the "ZetaTalk Logs" link on the left
[09:40] <QueenVee> can't wait to see the analysis of the new images
[09:40] <tied2> hello ya all
[09:41] <QueenVee> tied2: i hear ya been coming to zetapal's rescue
[09:41] <cmell> QueenVee aparently the logs link links to the search page :(
[09:41] <tied2> well it took me forever to get mine set up
[09:41] <QueenVee> sec
[09:42] <QueenVee> cmell: no it don't -- you must have clicked on the search link below it
[09:43] <cmell> my opera browser says this when I hold the cursor over the logs link : http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Search ??
[09:43] <QueenVee> Ralf came to my rescue big-time yesterday -- not only completely re-did the colour scheme of the SHIFT2003 site, but also set me up so that the hackers can't disconnect me from the server anymore
[09:44] <cmell> perhaps that was what happened to me several times yesterday ?
[09:44] <tex-away> ***QV gets the hook-up***
[09:44] <cmell> hold on I'll try ie
[09:45] <QueenVee> EVERYONE: Can you please go to this page, click on the link on the left that says "Zeta Logs", and tell me where it leads you
[09:45] <QueenVee> tex: ya, and i didn't have to sleep with anybody to get it.....
[09:45] <Zetapal> cmel - something to commemorate my DCC send - can I send you a pic?
[09:45] <cmell> wait a sec :)
[09:46] <cmell> QueenVee it only happens in my opera browser
[09:46] <tied2> took me to the logs
[09:46] <QueenVee> weird, smell
[09:46] <QueenVee> cmell, i mean
[09:46] <Ralf> Zetapal: try now
[09:46] <cmell> heh
[09:46] <tex-away> worked for me
[09:46] <QueenVee> i didn't mean there was a weird smell in the room
[09:46] <QueenVee> hehe
[09:46] <cmell> yes please Zetapal try
[09:47] <QueenVee> morning Rarlf
[09:47] <QueenVee> Ralf
[09:47] <QueenVee> geez, can't type today
[09:47] <Zetapal> brb
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[09:48] <Zetapal> thx Ralf - whatever you did
[09:49] <Zetapal> cmel - good huh - lol
[09:49] <tied2> ZP Ralf fixed you up?
[09:49] <cmell> yeah lol
[09:49] <Zetapal> yeah tied - I had changed something on the ident page
[09:49] <Zetapal> no prob
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[09:52] <QueenVee> i'm listening to Paul Simon's GRACELAND cd -- still great after all these years....
[09:53] <QueenVee> "Losing love is like a window in your heart / Everybody sees you're torn apart/ Everybody feels the wind blow...."
[09:56] <Zetapal> always wanted to send you this queen
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[09:58] <obany> hi
[09:58] <QueenVee> woooooo, it's a biggie.... still downloading.....
[09:59] <obany> QueenVee: what?
[09:59] <QueenVee> hi obany -- that was directed to zp, who's sending me a file
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[10:01] <QueenVee> Zetapal: very nice song, thanks....
[10:01] <Zetapal> listening
[10:02] <Zetapal> projecting it on you
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[10:03] <Zetapal> butchy
[10:03] <butch> hey Zetapal
[10:03] <QueenVee> funny, no one has ever called me "tory", though my name is Victoria....
[10:04] <QueenVee> most call me Vic or Vee
[10:04] <butch> ever called vicki?
[10:04] <QueenVee> yeah, but i discourage it
[10:04] <butch> ah...ok
[10:04] <cmell> heh
[10:05] <Zetapal> with a kick in the nuts
[10:05] <QueenVee> Vicki has a cut and petite quality to it that is... well.... not me
[10:05] <QueenVee> cut = cute
[10:05] <Zetapal> well the media house is open, who wants something?
[10:06] <QueenVee> lol
[10:06] <Zetapal> I got 120gigs just sittin here
[10:06] <butch> got a new drive?
[10:07] <Zetapal> can I send you another Queen by the same artist? this one's his hit
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[10:07] <Zetapal> naw butch just got my DCC send to work
[10:07] <Zetapal> doh
[10:07] <obany> steveh just joined #troubled_times
[10:08] <Zetapal> Planet Havas
[10:09] <obany> nah just Planet X
[10:09] <obany> no Planet Hava
[10:09] <obany> s
[10:09] <Zetapal> :) I know, i just like to tease him about it
[10:11] <QueenVee> it was a lovely suggestion on the part of whoever suggested it on yahoo....
[10:12] <Zetapal> Queen can i send you another one?
[10:12] <QueenVee> sure zp
[10:12] <Zetapal> cool, this is his hit, you'll prob like it, listen to the words:
[10:15] <obany> brb
[10:17] <tied2> aaww a hot shower/ bowl of soup and in 15 min I'll be ready for a beer
[10:18] <QueenVee> tied: lol, a little early for that, eh?
[10:19] <tied2> hell know football is on
[10:19] <QueenVee> ah, that's different
[10:20] <QueenVee> i need a hot shower myself.... soon as i can get into the bathroom... my mother's dolling herself up for a hot date....
[10:20] <tied2> you gotta have beer w/football
[10:21] <Zetapal> they love to tell you...
[10:21] <Zetapal> stay inside the lines...
[10:21] <QueenVee> zetapal: i'm listening now...
[10:21] <Zetapal> but somethin's better ...
[10:21] <Zetapal> on the other side.
[10:21] <Zetapal> :)
[10:21] <tied2> ZP is going nuts with his dcc now :-)
[10:22] <Zetapal> lol
[10:22] <Zetapal> ZETAPAL LOVES DCC
[10:22] <Zetapal> something for you tied:
[10:23] <QueenVee> lol
[10:23] <QueenVee> zetapal will end up sending us his home movies in the end...
[10:23] <QueenVee> great song, zp, thanks
[10:24] <Zetapal> no I would presume such - only top quality content here babe
[10:24] <Zetapal> am I right or am I right tied ?
[10:24] <Zetapal> lol
[10:25] <Zetapal> who else wants a cool file?
[10:26] <tied2> resend that ZP I was AFC
[10:27] <tied2> opps AFK
[10:27] <Zetapal> ok - by the way - what does AFK stand for?
[10:28] <tied2> away from keyboard
[10:28] <Zetapal> also -I agree with you about SH being careful about reporting it - could bring heat
[10:28] <tied2> yep
[10:29] <tied2> tell him
[10:29] <QueenVee> well, this is what i suggested:
[10:29] <QueenVee> [13:26] <QueenVee> SteveH: what about simply sending what you have to the astronomers who have been looking for the Tenth Planet?
[10:29] <QueenVee> [13:27] <QueenVee> the ones who are sympathetic, likely to be open to it....
[10:29] <QueenVee> [13:27] <QueenVee> the guys who first talked about it in 1983
[10:29] <QueenVee> [13:27] <QueenVee> the ones mentioned in that recent Independent article...
[10:30] <QueenVee> what would be the problem with that?
[10:31] <Zetapal> on the surface nothing
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[10:39] <BobS> Hello all
[10:39] <Guest> Hello
[10:40] <Zetapal> hey bobby
[10:40] <Zetapal> hi guest
[10:40] <Guest> My first time here
[10:40] <cmell> hi
[10:40] <BobS> What's shakin' Zetapal?
[10:41] <QueenVee> i guest, welcome -- but the first thing you have to do is change your name to something other than "Guest"...
[10:41] <QueenVee> do you know how to do that?
[10:41] <Zetapal> well, I got my DCC send working, so I'm pumped
[10:41] <BobS> nice work...what was wrong?
[10:42] <QueenVee> BobS: the logs of yesterday's session are up on the SHIFT2003 site, on the following page: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8
[10:42] <Zetapal> had to get from behind my router firewall - pain in the butt - couldn't have done it without tieds help
[10:42] <QueenVee> Guest: ARE YOU THERE?
[10:42] <Zetapal> you want anything BobS? media
[10:43] <BobS> I'm excited to read, thanks Queen!
[10:43] <BobS> Nice website by the way!
[10:43] <BobS> Sure ZP
[10:43] <QueenVee> Guest: there is a trouble-maker who comes to this room all the time under the name "Guest"; therefore if you do not change your name, i will have to assume you are he and kick you from the room
[10:43] <Zetapal> ok lets talk , pvt
[10:43] <QueenVee> thanks BobS!
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[10:45] <QueenVee> hello vsap - welcome
[10:45] <Vsap> Sorry I disconected to change name
[10:45] <QueenVee> no problem -- thanks for doing that
[10:45] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room vsap?
[10:46] <Vsap> Some readings
[10:46] <QueenVee> some readings?
[10:47] <QueenVee> which readings, vsap?
[10:48] <QueenVee> wow, winds were so bad in SF yesterday, that it is tore down scaffolding which injured one person and damaged several cars....
[10:49] <QueenVee> vsap: ARE YOU THERE?
[10:49] <BobS> Queen have you read the 2 articles on BBC this week about drastically melting icebergs and polar cap?
[10:49] <Vsap> A Brasilian book where I've found the same info as in Zeta talk
[10:49] <QueenVee> do you live in Brazil?
[10:50] <Vsap> Portugal
[10:50] <QueenVee> BobS: yes, i have... posted them on my site.....
[10:50] <QueenVee> Vsap: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[10:50] <Vsap> 2 months
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[10:51] <Vsap> zetatalk only 3 days
[10:51] <QueenVee> Alex: Vsap is in Portugal
[10:51] <QueenVee> Alex is in Brazil
[10:51] <Vsap> Hi Alex
[10:51] <alex2221> who me?
[10:51] <Vsap> Acho que sim
[10:52] <QueenVee> Alex: you are not the Alex who lives in Brazil?
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[10:52] <QueenVee> Alex?
[10:52] <QueenVee> hello tengo
[10:52] <tengo> hello
[10:53] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room, tengo?
[10:53] <tengo> well i saw that it was different from all the other rooms and i wanted to know who hung out in this place :)
[10:54] <Vsap> I'll leave now, I've got a lot to read
[10:54] <alex2221> no
[10:54] <Vsap> Bye
[10:54] <alex2221> i'm from israel
[10:54] <tex-away> he is not the same Alex
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[10:54] <QueenVee> oy, i'm confused
[10:54] <tengo> lol
[10:54] <QueenVee> So you are the friend of Weinstein?
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[10:55] <alex2221> yes
[10:55] <QueenVee> i see
[10:55] <alex2221> i've already told u
[10:56] <QueenVee> well, i thought you were someone else, so didn't ask you for your email address when you first came into the room; i'm afraid we need participants to supply that for security reasons.... just send it to me on a private channel.....
[10:57] <alex2221> never has been so crowded here....
[10:57] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk, alex?
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[11:01] <alex2221> about 5 months
[11:01] <obany> bbl
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[11:03] <from_Texas> Alex: how long have you know Weinstein
[11:03] <QueenVee> hi edude
[11:03] <edude> hi
[11:04] <QueenVee> edude: the logs from yesterday's zetatalk session can be found on the SHIFT2003 website, on this page: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8
[11:04] <alex2221> i'm in contact with him for a year and a helf
[11:04] <edude> thanks qv
[11:04] <alex2221> why are you all so interested in weinstein?
[11:05] <QueenVee> alex: well, he's a very strange fellow....
[11:05] <alex2221> tell me about it
[11:06] <from_Texas> you do mention him often
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[11:07] <Zetapal> Queen I've got another one for you :) they're Norwegian, Briskeby ?
[11:07] <from_Texas> hello azac
[11:08] <alex2221> QueenVee: u think that because he just knows too much on your opinion
[11:08] <Zetapal> jus say da word
[11:09] <QueenVee> alex: no, i think that because he rambles on like a crazy person
[11:09] <azac> Allo, I am new so I will just wade in slowly
[11:09] <QueenVee> hi Azac -- sorry, didn't see you come in
[11:10] <QueenVee> welcome -- what part of the world are you in?
[11:10] <azac> Canada
[11:10] <QueenVee> hail fellow canuck!
[11:10] <QueenVee> i'm in Ontario -- you?
[11:10] <azac> Quebec to be specific
[11:11] <QueenVee> alright -- we have a few Quebeckers here, always looking to meet others
[11:11] <QueenVee> (though not here at the moment)
[11:11] <azac> I will soon be in Mexico
[11:11] <QueenVee> cool
[11:11] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?>
[11:11] <alex2221> QueenVee: gimme an example
[11:12] <QueenVee> Alex: everything that comes out of his mouth, frankly
[11:15] <QueenVee> azac: why are you going to Mexico?
[11:15] <azac> I have read quite a bit on the site including, Nov 98 meeting, just wondering if there are big changes lately?
[11:17] <QueenVee> well, depends on what you call "big changes" -- big changes since when?
[11:17] <alex2221> it's his character...i've learned to live with it....i couldn't stand him at first 2....but he impressed me 2 much with his knowledge
[11:17] <QueenVee> the latest can be found on the zeta site, or on our website: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[11:17] <azac> Sorry I am kind of slow, 3 days
[11:18] <QueenVee> re Nov.98 meeting -- what are you referring to?
[11:18] <azac> OK I will go and check if I read or not, thank you
[11:18] <azac> IRC Nov 98 archives
[11:20] <QueenVee> azac: well, if you mean the logs, it's easier to just read the site since everything from the logs gets incorporated into the site -- check the "What's New" section for recent material that hasn't been incorporated into the site....
[11:22] <alex2221> QueenVee: just type "GIL WEINSTEIN" in google.com you'll see 4 yourself
[11:22] <QueenVee> alex: i've seen as much of Mr. Weinstein as i care to
[11:23] <azac> thanks
[11:24] <QueenVee> Alex: Weinstein clearly has no credibility whatsoever. why on earth should we believe that he has more accurate information than ZetaTalk?
[11:25] <alex2221> he did'nt said that
[11:25] <QueenVee> Alex: yes he did
[11:26] <alex2221> he told me himself that nency gave him "directions" about a shelter on a mountain in haifa
[11:27] <QueenVee> so?
[11:27] <QueenVee> she gives a lot of information to a lot of people
[11:27] <alex2221> so he's in contact with her
[11:27] <QueenVee> yeah, so are a lot of people
[11:27] <QueenVee> including crazy people
[11:28] <from_Texas> Alex are you saying Gil agrees with Zetatalk
[11:30] <QueenVee> hey, check out this lead story on our website: "The year 2002 is the second warmest year in recorded history (after 1998), according to Nasa scientists who monitor global air temperatures".... http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[11:31] <alex2221> QueenVee: what do u mean by "zetatalk" ? zetatalk is the contact person who wrote it
[11:31] <QueenVee> Zetatalk is the information related to Nancy Lieder by the Zetas
[11:32] <QueenVee> Weinstein claims he has more accurate information than does ZetaTalk
[11:32] <QueenVee> i just have one question: why should we believe that? where is his track record?
[11:34] <alex2221> but why do u think that the zetas or any other alien civilization gave that information only to nanact lieder?
[11:34] <QueenVee> because of the accuracy record of the material
[11:34] <alex2221> *nancy
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[11:35] <from_Texas> hi gary
[11:35] <QueenVee> i don't believe they have given it ONLY to nancy....
[11:35] <QueenVee> hello gary, welcome
[11:35] <QueenVee> Alex: but there has to be some BASIS on which to believe someone who says that they are in contact....
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[11:35] <QueenVee> gee, bye gary
[11:36] <QueenVee> Alex: the predictions in ZetaTalk over a five year period have been highly accurate -- and that is why i (and others) find her credible
[11:36] <QueenVee> why should we consider Weinstein credible?
[11:37] <alex2221> it only sais the she is the one who had the courage to advertise this information
[11:38] <QueenVee> so why doesn't Weinstein advertise his alleged information?
[11:38] <QueenVee> why does he just expect us to believe what he says?
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[11:38] <QueenVee> hey JP
[11:38] <JP> Hi QV
[11:38] <alex2221> and that the civilization that contacted her had the permission to tell her all those details and all those stuff
[11:38] <QueenVee> how are things in Colorado?
[11:39] <QueenVee> Alex: is that a question or a statement?
[11:39] <JP> going very well thank you
[11:39] <QueenVee> West Coast is experiencing some storms.....
[11:40] <JP> Colorado is dry and turing colder today but last two was clear enough to watch meteors and some planets
[11:40] <QueenVee> cool -- did you watch those meteor showers of the other night?
[11:41] <alex2221> for example i've already told you that another civilization gave slight clues to a contact person from israel about the poleshift
[11:41] <QueenVee> JP: the logs from yesterday's zetatalk sessions are up on the SHIFT2003 website now, on this page: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8
[11:41] <QueenVee> Alex: and why should i believe that?
[11:41] <JP> Yes I did Fri at midnight ans then agan at 3:30 - personal count was about 30 with 3 real cool ones
[11:41] <alex2221> it was in his book
[11:41] <QueenVee> JP: ooooooh, i'm jealous
[11:41] <JP> Thanks for that info you read my mind you are so good
[11:42] <QueenVee> alex: so you think just because something is in a book it's true?
[11:42] <alex2221> i've noticed it only after i've read zetatalk
[11:42] <QueenVee> JP: :-)
[11:42] <QueenVee> JP: I just put up an interesting article on the main page as well, about global warming: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
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[11:43] <JP> Thank you I'll fly over to those two sites for a few minutes
[11:44] <QueenVee> fly carefully
[11:44] <JP> will do
[11:44] <alex2221> what do u mean ? as truth as he had abale to cure people by the help of aliens from other dimentions....
[11:44] <alex2221> *dimentions
[11:44] <azac> Anyone familiar with "Operation Terra"
[11:44] <QueenVee> azac: yes......
[11:45] <QueenVee> Alex: so he claims....
[11:45] <azac> Would that be in conjunction with Zeta
[11:45] <QueenVee> Azac: we have only one big problem with Operation Terra....
[11:46] <alex2221> ok. then - so nency claims to have contact with the zetas....
[11:46] <azac> What's that
[11:46] <QueenVee> and that is what they are teaching people about being able to escape the poleshift by virtue of their spiritual advancement
[11:46] <QueenVee> Alex: again, she has an accuracy record
[11:47] <alex2221> i belive what he says a lot more then what's on zetatlk
[11:47] <azac> How about the rest of it?
[11:47] <QueenVee> Alex: well, i suggest you go to him for your information then; i really don't care
[11:47] <QueenVee> Azac: can you be more specific?
[11:47] <QueenVee> seems to be generally in line, from what i can remember.....
[11:48] <azac> Would that be the only difference with Zeta?
[11:48] <QueenVee> azac: from what i recall -- i didn't study the site in depth.... you'd have to give me specifics and then i can tell you whether they agree with zetatalk
[11:48] <alex2221> QueenVee: hew don't claims anything about the poleshift
[11:48] <QueenVee> did you want to read what ZT has to say about "the rapture"...?
[11:49] <QueenVee> hew?
[11:49] <QueenVee> Weinstein claims that he has a more accurate date for the poleshift
[11:50] <azac> thanks, get back to you on that
[11:50] <QueenVee> azac: well, it explains how there is an element of truth in the traditional concept in it, but how it has been highly distorted to appeal to people's ideas of spiritual elitism....
[11:50] <alex2221> i haven't spoke to him about that yet....
[11:51] <QueenVee> azac: the biggest concern i have with that is that people can be deluded into thinking they don't need to prepare, because they are going to be saved if they have the right spiritual mindset.... you know?
[11:51] <QueenVee> it's irresponsible
[11:52] <alex2221> damn......i wish i could speak english well
[11:52] <azac> Alike Religions with different ideas of the same god
[11:53] <QueenVee> azac: sorry.... i don't quite understand your point....
[11:53] <QueenVee> azac: but i'm interested..... so please try again.....
[11:54] <alex2221> any way...weintein will be here in a few days
[11:54] <azac> each religion interprets differently and each claim to be the only right one
[11:54] <QueenVee> alex: great, then we can talk to him directly
[11:54] <QueenVee> azac: yes, indeed. but zetatalk isn't a religion. it's just information.
[11:55] <azac> I agree, just saw a similitude there, sorry,
[11:56] <QueenVee> the key difference, in my opinion, is this:
[11:57] <QueenVee> religions give you a set of instructions, that if followed, will bring you a reward of some kind....
[11:57] <QueenVee> will set you apart from others.....
[11:57] <alex2221> ut zetatalk isn't a religion. it's just information.
[11:57] <alex2221> (azac) I agree, just saw a similitude there, sorry,
[11:57] <alex2221> (@QueenVee) the key diffe
[11:57] <alex2221> ut zetatalk isn't a religion. it's just information.
[11:57] <alex2221> (azac) I agree, just saw a similitude there, sorry,
[11:57] <alex2221> (@QueenVee) the key diffe
[11:57] <alex2221> http://surfin.com.au/comments.html
[11:58] <QueenVee> Zetatalk is just providing practical information for surviving a physical catastrophe -- one that ANYONE can benefit from, regardless of their state of virtue....
[11:58] <QueenVee> or personal beliefs....
[11:59] <QueenVee> ZT does talk about spiritual matters, but they are not directly tied to the issue of preparing for and surviving the poleshift
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[11:59] <azac> Sorry I brought up religion, I am not religious but spiritual (Ibelieve in a Supreme Bing but not in Religion)
[12:00] <QueenVee> yes, a good distinction :-)
[12:00] <azac> excuse my typing
[12:00] <QueenVee> hey, it's pretty good compared to most
[12:01] <azac> What I found similar was the many getting messages from Aliens but all are differring
[12:03] <QueenVee> mmmm, well ZT addresses that problem.....
[12:03] <QueenVee> they point to the accuracy record of ZetaTalk....
[12:03] <QueenVee> they don't claim that others AREN'T in contact.....
[12:03] <QueenVee> just that their personal beliefs so often DISTORT the information they are receiving
[12:04] <QueenVee> that's why i am highly skeptical of those who claim to be channeling/translating information from alien entities who have very specific and rigid religions ideas....
[12:04] <QueenVee> because they are bound the interpret what they hear through that filter
[12:04] <azac> In other words how the physical filters the information?
[12:04] <QueenVee> the receiver filters the information
[12:05] <QueenVee> some receivers are more "clear" than others
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[12:05] <QueenVee> one just has to be mindful of that
[12:05] <Zetapal> maybe one of you can help me - this is gonna sound stupid - but is there any way to make a txt file of all the files on a disk? -
[12:05] <Zetapal> just the filenames
[12:05] <Zetapal> a catalog
[12:05] <QueenVee> nancy is the "clearest" receiver i know of to date -- but i don't assume that her material is free from distortion either
[12:05] <QueenVee> hellow DawnnaLee
[12:05] <QueenVee> ZP: dunno
[12:06] <cmell> yes
[12:06] <DawnnaLee> Hello Queen..
[12:06] <QueenVee> don't believe i've seen you here before, dawnnaLee -- what brings you to this room?
[12:06] <Zetapal> cmel? - I've been scratching my head for an hour
[12:06] <cmell> what os ?
[12:06] <from_Texas> zp there are several shareware programs that do that
[12:06] <Zetapal> win 98se
[12:06] <cmell> make a dos window
[12:07] <Zetapal> ah
[12:07] <DawnnaLee> You forgot me already
[12:07] <QueenVee> azac: so one must have some means of measuring the "clearness" of a given receiver -- ZT's predictions over five years provide that
[12:07] <Zetapal> of course
[12:07] <Zetapal> too simple
[12:07] <Zetapal> lol
[12:07] <cmell> use the dir command
[12:07] <from_Texas> good idea cmell as long as they aren't long file names
[12:07] <QueenVee> oh, sorry, dawnnaLee
[12:07] <Zetapal> right
[12:07] <cmell> yes tex
[12:07] <QueenVee> Dawnna: remind me....
[12:08] <from_Texas> be sure to use dir /p
[12:08] <Zetapal> whats /p ?
[12:08] <Zetapal> oh page
[12:08] <cmell> and pipe the output into a .txt file
[12:08] <Zetapal> ok
[12:08] <from_Texas> or pipe.. cmell is on it
[12:08] <Zetapal> thx
[12:08] <Zetapal> lol
[12:08] <QueenVee> azac: i look at all of the information from EVERYONE who claims to have such information, and look for the correlations between them -- those correlations are likely to be the least distorted parts of their "message".....
[12:09] <DawnnaLee> been here for over 4 weeks now....got your email all the time Queen
[12:09] <Zetapal> hey Tex can I send you a funny audio file?
[12:09] <cmell> it's long time since I last used that :)
[12:09] <from_Texas> sure give me a sec
[12:09] <QueenVee> HEY GUYS: Can you please take your tech talk elsewher?
[12:09] <Zetapal> how bout you cmel? funny?
[12:09] <QueenVee> PLEASE?
[12:09] <cmell> ok QV
[12:10] <QueenVee> Dawnna: mmmm, hold on, let me check my mailing list
[12:10] <cmell> no I'm just happy to have avoided it for so long
[12:10] <DawnnaLee> ok
[12:11] <azac> Queen, Great that someone does, I can't keep up with it all.
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[12:12] <QueenVee> lol, well i've been studying this kind of material my whole life
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[12:13] <azac> I started in the 70s with Chariots of the gods, but my work and other things kind of limited the time I could dedicate.
[12:14] <QueenVee> Dawnna: you know what? i bet you've been getting email messages from me from the Troubled-Times Yahoo listserve....
[12:14] <DawnnaLee> ohh yeah
[12:14] <QueenVee> Dawnna: anyone, i have you on my mailing list now.... just one question -- what part of the world do you live in?
[12:14] <DawnnaLee> New Hampshire...USA
[12:15] <QueenVee> azac: yes, i started with CHARIOTS OF THE GODS when i was 12 years old.... and i'm 43 now.....
[12:16] <from_Texas> that is where they met in the desert ZP
[12:16] <obany> mmmm i did read those kinds of books also .. when i was like 11/12 years old... at least some about ufos, the paranormal, lost civalisations
[12:16] <QueenVee> in fact, annoyingly precocious youngster that i was -- after reading the book i refused to be confirmed into the Catholic Church, proclaiming to my teachers that i believe God was really an astronaut....
[12:16] <QueenVee> you can well imagine how well that went down....
[12:17] <QueenVee> DawnnaLee: so how long have you been aware of the poleshift and ZetaTAlk?
[12:17] <DawnnaLee> about 5 weeks
[12:17] <azac> We have a similarity there, I quit believing in religion, before I read it.
[12:18] <cmell> I never was religious
[12:18] <QueenVee> Dawnna: not very long.... are you thinking about preparation yet?
[12:18] <QueenVee> azac: well, i threw religion out -- but not spirituality....
[12:19] <DawnnaLee> yes...but my kids think I am crazy...hope that they will realize it before it is too late
[12:20] <QueenVee> Dawnna and Azac: have you seen this group's new website? http://shift2003.kgmweb.com | Lots of info there....
[12:20] <QueenVee> Dawnna: how old are your children?
[12:20] <DawnnaLee> that time is running out...not that Im crazy that is..
[12:20] <azac> Same here, what turn me around from the Catholic Religion was the fact that you could be A Saint all your life, but if you had one sin when you died you went to hell vs a Criminal who confessed straight to heaven.
[12:20] <QueenVee> azac: yeah, even a kid could figure out that was kinda nutty....
[12:21] <DawnnaLee> there are 30 and 31
[12:22] <azac> QueenVee: I was surfing wound up on a page of Zeta talk and then somehow wound up on this chat
[12:24] <DawnnaLee> Queen..I have been to shift 2003..it does have alot of information on it..
[12:24] <QueenVee> yeah, i found ZetaTalk by seeming chance as well -- though i had been aware of the coming poleshift since very young
[12:24] <QueenVee> there ya go -- would i lie to you...?
[12:24] <QueenVee> hehe
[12:24] <QueenVee> the POLESHIFT LINKS section is particularly useful
[12:25] <DawnnaLee> My son believes in the coming pole shift..but doesnt realize how close we are to it..
[12:26] <azac> QueenVee: Any thoughts on the golden Cities (Lori Adele Toye)
[12:27] <QueenVee> azac: don't know that -- got a link?
[12:27] <Zetapal> ah hidden energy points - i'm familiar - i've got her "I AM America Map" - much like Scallions
[12:27] <QueenVee> mmmmm, the Japanese launched a new Australian sattelite on Saturday -- let's see how far this one gets: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2574899.stm
[12:28] <Zetapal> heh - at least it made it to space - maybe it really is a benign satellite
[12:28] <azac> That's the one, she states that the Golden Cities will be protected, I will give you the link for it
[12:29] <DawnnaLee> What are the Golden Cities?
[12:30] <QueenVee> azac: oh, please
[12:30] <QueenVee> no one is going to be protected from the poleshift; as ZT says, it will be the "great equalizer"....
[12:31] <Zetapal> golden cities - magic energy points where the Earth Mother gives off protective energy for no particular reason other than it is a particular geographic local - yeah whatever
[12:31] <DawnnaLee> Like Sedona Az.?
[12:31] <QueenVee> elitism comes in many forms -- including "spiritual" elitism
[12:31] <Zetapal> yeah Sedona is one of them
[12:32] <QueenVee> say the right prayers, move to the right location, and you too will be saved....
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[12:32] <Zetapal> I've got it right here, hold on i'll tell you where the magic cities are....
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[12:32] <QueenVee> i'll bet most of them are american....
[12:33] <Zetapal> actually yes they are in America the center of the universe...
[12:33] <QueenVee> lol
[12:34] <QueenVee> yep, there's just something SPECIAL about the United States....
[12:34] <cmell> lol
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[12:35] <Zetapal> one is basically Missoula Montana,ones about 300 miles east of Denver(the golden port)...
[12:36] <Zetapal> ones about 300 mile east of Pheonix(probably cause it sounds mythic), and the last is
[12:36] <Zetapal> ones about 300 mile east of Pheonix(probably cause it sounds mythic), and the last is
[12:36] <Zetapal> ones about 300 mile east of Pheonix(probably cause it sounds mythic), ...
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[12:37] <QueenVee> oh, i love it -- you have to BUY HER MAP in order to find out the location of the Golden Cities....
[12:38] <from_Texas> I got a map I'll sell ya
[12:38] <Zetapal> one is Indianapolis Indiana, the last is just southwest of Augusta Georgia (prob cause we don't want the rednecks coming to Denver in an emergency)
[12:38] <from_Texas> even of places in Canada if you want
[12:39] <QueenVee> lol, tex
[12:40] <QueenVee> well, that kind of shit makes me very angry.... because it can lead people into a false sense of safety, cause them to fail to prepare....
[12:40] <QueenVee> it feeds on people's need to feel that there is a magical solution to things
[12:41] <azac> Queen: I just don't seem to be able to paste the link
[12:41] <QueenVee> spiritual growth and progression isn't about magic -- it's about learning some pretty basic earth lessons -- about service to others....
[12:41] <JP> I'm and a I'm a redneck in Denver
[12:42] <QueenVee> people get so distracted by new-age mumbo jumbo
[12:42] <QueenVee> okay, that's my rant for today. i'm done.
[12:42] <azac> After reading what's been posted I must say that there is more to it than what was posted
[12:43] <QueenVee> so what's so special about the united states, that it's the only place that has "golden cities"?
[12:45] <azac> There are 50 Golden Cities all true the world and also were future land will be inb the ocean
[12:45] <JP> I thouhgt you knew? the world revolves around us! kidding or maybe not some here are STS
[12:45] <QueenVee> some?
[12:45] <JP> lol
[12:46] <QueenVee> here's her website: http://www.iamamerica.com/
[12:46] <Zetapal> more secular fantasy where the women are asian and preferably scantily clad. But thats just me.
[12:47] <QueenVee> azac: i see only AMERICAN golden cities on her website -- and you have to shell out money in order to find out where they are....
[12:47] <azac> you got it how do you paste it on
[12:48] <QueenVee> some pretty slick marketing on that site....
[12:48] <QueenVee> azac: are you connected via the internet, or via IRC-client software, like MIRC?
[12:49] <JP> you gots to pay for any info on that site
[12:49] <azac> You do not have to shell out any money on less it is changed, if you a book or a map other than what's shown on the site then you have to shell out
[12:49] <azac> internet
[12:49] <QueenVee> azac: so where can i get that info?
[12:49] <QueenVee> free?
[12:49] <QueenVee> i don't see it
[12:50] <DawnnaLee> I have been to I am america site and couldnt use anything that she said without paying for it...
[12:50] <tied2> ZP pick up your dcc
[12:50] <azac> last time I was on the site you could click on maps and see them, I will go on and see
[12:50] <QueenVee> azac: : just click on the url or copy, cut, and paste as you would in Word....
[12:51] <tied2> Zetapal accept your dcc
[12:52] <Zetapal> something failed tied - try again
[12:54] <QueenVee> oaky, there's a "free newsletter" that briefly mentions the "five golden cities" of the US (no international ones) -- and the "newsletter" is just STUFFED with the most incredible marketing hype.....
[12:54] <QueenVee> this woman's gotta be making a bundle
[12:55] <tied2> you gotta except the damn thing ZP
[12:55] <QueenVee> yes, Zetapal! ACCEPTANCE IS ALL!!!
[12:56] <JP> charging for prayers - looks like a take on Elizabeth Clare Prophets violet flame prayer which were given free
[12:56] <QueenVee> yep
[12:57] <QueenVee> when you read that kind of material, it's all so incredibly VAGUE.....
[12:57] <azac> on the home page just click on whatever map you want, they used to show them bigger than they do now
[12:57] <QueenVee> lots of talk about ENERGY, RAYS, VORTEXES (VORTEXI?).....
[12:58] <JP> I think I start a site charging for the Lord's Prayer and copyright it only in the US
[12:58] <tied2> JP no good would come from it
[12:59] <azac> I remember seing her years ago on Prophecies I - IV, she use to give the maps out for free, she even sold her house to publish them etc..
[12:59] <QueenVee> well, azac -- i'm completley unimpressed with the woman
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[12:59] <scooby> me too
[12:59] <DawnnaLee> me too
[12:59] <QueenVee> she may be receiving SOME genuine information, but it's obviously so highly distorted, and the marketing aspect of it really sullies it
[12:59] <JP> good money from sheep people would - tied2
[12:59] <scooby> the one thing about Nancy that gives her tons of credibility is ALL THE INFO IS ON THE SITE AND IS FREE!
[13:00] <JP> absolutely
[13:00] <scooby> you can buy the bookif you want
[13:00] <scooby> but it's all there anyway
[13:00] <tied2> well see if i offer Julie-Ann's hot workout to ZP again :-)
[13:00] <scooby> new stuff goes up immediaytely
[13:00] <scooby> tied: lol
[13:00] <QueenVee> well, not only that, but the emphasis is on becoming SERVICE TO OTHERS, on doing for others -- not on all the esoteric mumbo-jumbo that will raise you above everyone else....
[13:01] <scooby> well, yeah, but from a sceptic point of view, the credibility that comes with not charging for the info is HUGE
[13:01] <azac> I understand that it may be harder to believe when they charge, but that in itself does not make her a fake, you go to Edgar Cayce site or to his foundation and you will pay for information
[13:01] <QueenVee> buy this oil -- it will raise your vibrations kind of shit
[13:01] <tied2> lol
[13:02] <scooby> azac: you can read all the cayce info in books which are available in the library
[13:02] <QueenVee> azac: well, show me the woman's accuracy record and we might be able to talk
[13:02] <JP> but Mr cayce didnt charge for the info it was readily avaialbe then only now money comes into play
[13:02] <scooby> Nancy has a link to what the map willbe after the shift
[13:02] <scooby> and it
[13:02] <QueenVee> during his life cayce did NOT charge for readings
[13:02] <scooby> is free
[13:02] <JP> you could to the library and I did
[13:02] <QueenVee> he was the most STO individual that can be imagined
[13:03] <azac> scooby if you go to the foundation you can read the readings but not the books that are for sale there
[13:03] <scooby> but the books are in the libraries
[13:03] <QueenVee> azac: cayce is not responsible for what his descendents have done
[13:03] <scooby> QV: BINGO!
[13:03] <JP> I can get cayce stuff anytime with out charege if I want
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[13:04] <QueenVee> but this Lori woman is completely responsible for how she spreads her "message"
[13:04] <azac> JP he charged for his readings I believe it was $20, which is alot at the time
[13:04] <QueenVee> azac -- HE DID NOT
[13:04] <Zetapal> look the reason Lori toye is being discussed in a Zetatalk chatroom - is because she has no predictions, no track record, - she is not on the front lines and never has been- I'm sure she's a fine lady but she's old news.
[13:04] <JP> no harm there even if he did he spread threadings freely
[13:04] <scooby> even if he did, a man has to eat....
[13:04] <QueenVee> BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM
[13:05] <QueenVee> i see Tori eating a lot of fruit, but not producing any....
[13:05] <scooby> lol
[13:05] <Zetapal> yeah - she could use a steak
[13:05] <JP> amen
[13:05] <Zetapal> Queen - lol
[13:06] <Zetapal> you're a trip girl
[13:06] <JP> I saw TAKEN for the first time I enjoyed it
[13:06] <QueenVee> come on, look at her newsletter -- she is selling oils called GOLDEN CITY ENERGIES, for god's sake
[13:06] <Zetapal> JP wasn't Taken awesome? I loved it
[13:06] <QueenVee> JP: i look forward to seeing that some day....
[13:06] <tied2> ZP ok are you back now
[13:07] <JP> yes it was pretty mesmerizing
[13:07] <azac> he did charge and give me time to look it up and I will show you proof, but I have about 50 books on the man I spent 3 days in Virginia beach and also see what you get for free on the site
[13:07] <Zetapal> Queen , I've got it
[13:07] <scooby> yes, you must multicast DCC it
[13:07] <scooby> is that possible
[13:08] <Zetapal> 10 files, about 250 meg each
[13:08] <scooby> lol
[13:08] <scooby> 2.5 G
[13:08] <QueenVee> azac: i'm not interested in what his descendents are doing -- only with what the man himself did during his lifetime
[13:08] <tied2> ZP are you going to accept my dcc ?
[13:08] <JP> sehr gut - a business is not wrong - just admit it is a business not a help for people lke cayce in the early days
[13:08] <Zetapal> tied - I don't know why your DCC is coming through over here
[13:08] <scooby> brb
[13:08] <Zetapal> isn't
[13:08] <tied2> because you wait until it times out
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[13:09] <JP> she is not helping anyone but her financial issues
[13:09] <Zetapal> let me restate tied - I've been accepting your DCC's but they keep failing
[13:09] <tied2> hum
[13:09] <QueenVee> the woman's "free newsletter" is LITERALLY only about 1/8th "material" and the rest is advertisements for her various products.... and most of the "material" is telling people why they need the products -- make me puke
[13:09] <azac> Queen I have read of my own eyes were he stated he did ot charge at the beginning and then reluctantly chrged $20. if they could pay.
[13:10] <QueenVee> azac: and i have read of my own eyes that he did not charge
[13:10] <JP> uh huh but NOW she charges for all and gives no real substance unless you pay not a real service to others
[13:10] <azac> I will give you proof OK
[13:11] <Zetapal> Queen and scooby - I can begin sending you guys the files at any time - may take some time though - fine with me
[13:11] <QueenVee> you cannot look at what cayce did, and what nancy leider is doing -- and then the "big business" aspect of this lori woman's stuff -- and begin to compare them
[13:11] <QueenVee> not right now zp
[13:11] <QueenVee> later
[13:13] <Zetapal> yeah I saw Lori interviewed once, she is real shy-like and the ipression i get is that she is really into pleasing her husband - which was kind of weird cause he didn't look that strong either - they are just into whatever they got going on
[13:13] <Zetapal> they are a "couple"
[13:13] <Zetapal> get it ? !!!!
[13:14] <Zetapal> she aint thinkin about us dude
[13:14] <JP> azac I have proof she charges because I cannot get anything of substance without shelling out buckaroos - not a great or noble service if I was in need
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[13:15] <QueenVee> it's one thing to say here's the information free on the internet, but if you want a hard copy we're going to have to charge you for our costs, paper, postage, etc.....
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[13:15] <JP> dont care in Cayce charged individuals - the info he deemed important was given freely
[13:15] <QueenVee> but what that lori is doing is another thing entirely
[13:16] <JP> good point
[13:16] <QueenVee> it's a FACT that Cayce found it hard to feed his family at times.... you know lori and hubby ain't starving
[13:16] <Zetapal> Lori is a leading figurehead of the New Age parade - she had her day back in the 80's she blew her wadd and nothing came of it
[13:17] <Zetapal> bing, - turn the page
[13:17] <QueenVee> and look how simply nancy lives -- she does her own website, she doesn't have people working for her
[13:17] <QueenVee> gggrrrrrrrrrr
[13:17] <QueenVee> OKAY, AS MODERATOR I AM CLOSING THIS SUBJECT. AND THE NEXT PERSON WHO TALKS ABOUT IT IS GONNA GET KICKED (INCLUDING ME).
[13:18] <JP> what subject? :-)
[13:19] <QueenVee> lol
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[13:22] <samsara2003> Hi. Has anyone already downloaded the new images from Steve Havas's briefcase?
[13:24] <QueenVee> hey samsara
[13:24] <QueenVee> not me, i don't know dick about FITS files
[13:24] <QueenVee> i wait for the "astronomy for idiots" version to come down the pipe
[13:24] <samsara2003> :p, k thx queen
[13:25] <QueenVee> SteveH was here earlier...
[13:25] <QueenVee> too bad you missed him
[13:25] <samsara2003> The bandwith on that site is just terrible
[13:25] <QueenVee> oh, wait, hold on....
[13:26] <QueenVee> he gave a new link, let me get it
[13:26] <samsara2003> I just want the BMP's
[13:27] <QueenVee> okay, he says you can download the images from here now: http://www.troubled-times.com/fits
[13:27] <QueenVee> that's the latest info i have
[13:28] <QueenVee> okay, i've got to go and take a shower now. be back later.
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[13:28] <samsara2003> thx queen
[13:29] <JP> thx and bye
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[13:37] <obany> http://www.breenterprises.co.nz/page2.htm 2003 mentioned
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[13:42] <scooby-afk> lol
[13:42] <scooby-afk> brb
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[13:47] <obany> what someone wrote, from that page
[13:47] <obany> 9/12/2002
[13:47] <obany> A Lesson Learned
[13:47] <obany> Hi All,
[13:47] <obany> On tv in NZ they have just shown Star Trek VI 'The Undiscovered Country. It showed Capt. Kirk in semi retirement and in a Cabalistic frame of mind, until he saw the Light. Many parts of the script were as if someone had been reading the List's, thoughts. Very inspiring...
[13:47] <obany> Exact opposite to the hardness of Signs and possibly, Taken. Interesting last line, Capt Kirk talking in his star log, said, 'These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise, going where No Man Has Gone Before, no make that, Where No One Has Gone Before. Rather fitting as Humanity heads into May 2003.
[13:47] <obany> Love and Blessings, Brenda.
[13:47] <obany> Ps. Just been to see my spiritual teacher. He said we can expect massive earthquakes in mid 2003 as various plates along faultlines interact, and a small craft will be seen in plain view, also in 2003.
[13:49] <cmell> bye
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[13:51] <samsara2003> obany: small craft?
[13:51] <samsara2003> More dramatic sightings near shift-time, eh?
[13:51] <samsara2003> Should be exciting
[13:52] <obany> well i am realy not sure ... what will occur .. ... just something i got from that one page
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[13:56] <obany> zetatalk and some other sources are saying well enough to me
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[13:56] <insiderevolution> hello from hungary :)
[13:58] <obany> what i am sure about is that the shift will occur
[13:59] <insiderevolution> cool :)
[13:59] <insiderevolution> we will have a new world
[13:59] <insiderevolution> new systems
[13:59] <insiderevolution> humanity is too dirty nowdays
[13:59] <insiderevolution> Earth need cleaning
[14:00] <insiderevolution> where are you?
[14:00] <insiderevolution> MIRC shows 14 people here
[14:00] <insiderevolution> what do you do?
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[14:02] <obany> talking :)
[14:05] <insiderevolution> where?
[14:05] <insiderevolution> with others?
[14:05] <insiderevolution> how possible so little number of people here?
[14:05] <insiderevolution> andnobody speak here
[14:07] [obany:#poleshiftdiscussion PING]
[14:07] * obany brb :)
[14:13] <scooby-afk> hi
[14:13] <scooby-afk> bye
[14:13] <scooby-afk> busy now....
[14:14] <samsara2003> I've privately posted the Dec14th SUM image (in JPG) at: http://samsara2003.com/Dec14-sum.JPG
[14:15] <samsara2003> I'm reluctant to comment on it until we get some analysis by Dell or Havas...but for those who want it - here it is
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[14:39] <QueenVee> Insider -- hello
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[14:51] <Zetapal> Queen just a note: i have both of Nancy's interviews on Art Bell and the three Jeff Rense interviews available for DCC download if any newbie or other should desire them. :)
[14:52] <QueenVee> yes, i've been thinking about that....
[14:52] <QueenVee> putting them up on the site for download, was going to ask you if that would be ok....
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[14:52] <QueenVee> hello sparkle
[14:52] <Zetapal> currently working on a catalog of all current media on my HD's for similar
[14:53] <QueenVee> that's great zp
[14:53] <QueenVee> sparkle -- not seen you here before -- what brings you to this room?
[14:54] <QueenVee> zp: the site's looking not too shabby, eh?
[14:54] <Zetapal> I don't mind if you put anything from me on your site, just keep in mind that its not me you would have to worry about but the broadcasters who might try and protect their copyrights
[14:54] <QueenVee> oh, yeah, like i'm worried....
[14:55] <Zetapal> have a link, lets have a looksee
[14:55] <QueenVee> sparkle: ARE YOU THERE????
[14:55] <QueenVee> you mean you haven't memorized it by now?????? http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[14:55] <Zetapal> no I will bookmark it though
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[14:57] <scooby-afk> bye
[14:57] <scooby-afk> lol
[14:57] <scooby-afk> off to work....
[14:57] <scooby-afk> grrrr
[14:57] <scooby-afk> it's sunday dammit!
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[14:58] <QueenVee> mmmm, dunno what happened there....
[14:58] <Zetapal> very nice Queen - love the colors - has nancy seen it?
[14:58] <QueenVee> sparkle: as you are new and not responding, i'm assuming you are having a problem with the software. if that is NOT the case, please post something
[14:59] <QueenVee> otherwise, i'll kick you out of the room and ask you to come back under the nickname "cantpost", at which time i can give you some advice on how to fix the problem
[15:00] <QueenVee> zp: i dunno, i'm going to send out an official announcement tonight, letting people know the logs are up there -- and nancy's on the mailing list....
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[15:00] <Zetapal> ready for a tune? very poleshiftish
[15:01] <QueenVee> as i've said before, please feel free to make suggestions on how the site can be used to better benefit
[15:01] <Zetapal> oh I will
[15:01] <QueenVee> :-)
[15:01] <QueenVee> my mother calls me for dinner, must go
[15:02] <QueenVee> be back later
[15:02] <Zetapal> ok
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[15:21] <monk> hi
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[15:22] <QueenVee> himonk
[15:25] <RNTHOMAS> Howdy QV how goes...
[15:26] <QueenVee> goes good
[15:26] <QueenVee> if you're interested, the zetatalk logs are now available....
[15:26] <QueenVee> they're on the SHIFT2003 website, on this page: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8
[15:27] <RNTHOMAS> Thanks... I'll take a quick read of it...
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[15:33] <Shaman464> hi all
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[15:38] <QueenVee> hello Shaman
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[15:39] <QueenVee> the logs of yesterday's zetatalk session are now available, they're on the SHIFT2003 website, on this page: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8
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[15:47] <azac> hello, QueenVee
[15:47] <QueenVee> hello azac
[15:48] <azac> I cannot remember what book I read where Cayce charged but I found it on the site
[15:48] <QueenVee> do you have a link?
[15:49] <azac> if you click on Who was Edgar Cayce, 2cnd page, 12 para from bottom
[15:49] <QueenVee> link?
[15:50] <azac> I don't know why when I right click to paste on this chat nothing happens?
[15:52] <azac> www.edgarcayce.org
[15:54] <azac> Is it normal not to be able to paste in the writing space?
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[16:00] <obany> mmm not sure
[16:00] <obany> but well i go
[16:00] <QueenVee> "Because the requests for readings continued to grow, Cayce gave up his photography studio and began looking for financial backing for his hospital. He also began to accept donations for the readings, but he never refused to help those who were unable to pay."
[16:00] <obany> goodnight
[16:00] <QueenVee> accepting donations is not the same as charging money -- and the money went towards building a hospital for god's sake
[16:01] <QueenVee> i don't see anything in any of Lori's material that says those who are unable to pay do not have to do so
[16:02] <QueenVee> again, they can hardly be compared
[16:03] <obany> bye
[16:03] <azac> Just a nice way to put it, if he was not charging they would not need to state "he never refused to help those who where unable to pay" amd as I stated before the book I read did stipulate that it was $20.
[16:03] <QueenVee> by obany
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[16:04] <QueenVee> azac -- it clearly states that he accepted donations for the hospital; if you think that is in anyway comparable to the extensive and blantant money-making schemes connected with Lori's business -- well, i think you have blinders on
[16:05] <azac> I was just pointing out that Cayce also charged, and it was towards is sustainement and paying for his secretary "Gladys" etc... nothing wrong with it.
[16:05] <QueenVee> where does it said the money went to Gladys? i recall that she worked for him for free....
[16:07] <azac> Wrong she started working for him she was very young and stayed with him till the end and never got married.
[16:08] <QueenVee> Azac: i'm not discussing this with you further; as I said, if if you think that Cayce accepting donations for his hospital is in anyway comparable to the extensive and blantant money-making schemes connected with Lori's business, then i think you have blinders on
[16:08] <QueenVee> feel free to spend money on the snake-oil she peddles in her "free newsletter"....
[16:09] <azac> Again, I never compared the 2, just merely mentioned that Cayce did charge also, please don't take personnaly.
[16:09] <QueenVee> well, we were discussing Lori, and you brought up Cayce-- how is that not comparing the two?
[16:09] <QueenVee> give me a break
[16:12] <azac> Someone said that she could not be taken seriously because she was not giving the information for free, so I just gave an example of someone who could be taken seriously and did charge, that's all nothing more
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[16:33] <tied2> «««««««««««« Hello RNTHOMAS »»»»»»»»»»»»
[16:33] <tied2> «««««««««««« Hello QueenVee »»»»»»»»»»»»
[16:33] <tied2> «««««««««««« Hello Zetapal »»»»»»»»»»»»
[16:33] <tied2> «««««««««««« Hello tex-away »»»»»»»»»»»»
[16:33] <tied2> hah
[16:33] <QueenVee> oh my god, he's out of control
[16:33] <tied2> give a man a few dozen beers
[16:34] <QueenVee> how many beers have ya had, tied?
[16:34] <tied2> lmao
[16:34] <QueenVee> lol
[16:34] <tied2> more than a few
[16:34] <QueenVee> good on ya
[16:34] <tied2> «««««««««««« Hello monk »»»»»»»»»»»»
[16:34] <tied2> I forgot monk
[16:37] <tied2> yes the green bay packer kicked some san fran ass
[16:37] <tied2> id that off topic?
[16:37] <tied2> is
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[16:38] <QueenVee> hey, we're not talking about anything else.....
[16:39] <QueenVee> hi scoob
[16:40] <tied2> wheres my scobby snacks?
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[17:01] <scooby-atwork> lol
[17:02] <scooby-atwork> hi QV
[17:02] <scooby-atwork> HHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIII TTTTTTTTTTIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDD
[17:02] <tied2> do you know why a bride smiles?
[17:02] <tied2> cause she knows she giving her last BJ lmao
[17:02] <scooby-atwork> nope
[17:03] <scooby-atwork> hehe
[17:10] <Zetapal> whew - just finished a catalog file of my .mp3's - took at least an hour
[17:10] <Zetapal> anybody wanna see ?
[17:12] <Zetapal> If you see a song you like, just name it and I'll send it over :)
[17:12] <Zetapal> now how easy is that?
[17:13] <Zetapal> catalog is a doc file with about 400 tunes
[17:13] <Zetapal> listed
[17:17] <scooby-atwork> can you send a link?
[17:17] <scooby-atwork> I am in web chat
[17:17] <Zetapal> ah sorry. scoob,
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[17:24] <QueenVee> hi monk
[17:26] <monk> hello
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[17:41] <alex2221> the time's 03:43 AM now
[17:42] <QueenVee> why are you still awake?
[17:43] <alex2221> the incoming poleshift bothers me :))
[17:43] <alex2221> i'm going to die
[17:43] <alex2221> :))
[17:45] <QueenVee> not if you prepare
[17:47] <alex2221> QueenVee: i have to ask u this: u so intrested and preparing for this...why so if the "after times" r going to be so bad
[17:47] <QueenVee> because it is an opportunity to build a better kind of society
[17:47] <QueenVee> one based on cooperation and service to others
[17:48] <scooby-atwork> alex: we're all going to die
[17:48] <scooby-atwork> sometime
[17:49] <alex2221> it's better the way it is now
[17:49] <alex2221> :)
[17:50] <scooby-atwork> is it?
[17:50] <scooby-atwork> really?
[17:50] <scooby-atwork> are you spiritual at all?
[17:50] <QueenVee> he means "more comfortable" >>>>>for him
[17:52] <alex2221> is it true that only 40 years after the poleshift there going to be blue sky?
[17:52] <alex2221> again
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[17:53] <alex2221> is it???
[17:53] <monk> its a horrible thought
[17:54] <monk> pray for blue skys
[17:54] <alex2221> that's what weinstein have told me,anyway
[17:55] <txroz> hi everyone
[17:55] <monk> hi
[17:55] <Zetapal> Hi txroz
[17:55] <txroz> whats new
[17:56] <monk> bush is taking the vaccine
[17:56] <Zetapal> hm well
[17:56] <alex2221> monk: how old r u?
[17:57] <txroz> we wont
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[17:57] <monk> 18
[17:57] <alex2221> me 2
[17:57] <from_Texas> is this your first time here txroz... i have not seen you before
[17:58] <alex2221> I'll be right back
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[17:58] <txroz> i was away for awhile but im back now
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[17:59] <txroz> this is the best chat in town
[17:59] <monk> of course
[18:00] <QueenVee> hello txroz
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[18:00] <QueenVee> the weirdest thing happened....
[18:00] <scooby-atwork> and what was that??
[18:00] <QueenVee> i can't explain it... my computer just..... imploded.....
[18:00] <txroz> yes tell us please
[18:01] <monk> oh yea
[18:01] <scooby-atwork> lol
[18:01] <QueenVee> txroz: i've not seen you here before -- what brings you to this room?
[18:01] <scooby-atwork> i hope it wasn't on your lap....
[18:01] * monk thinks anti #poleshiftdiscussion people are at work
[18:01] <QueenVee> lol
[18:01] * scooby-atwork thinks the aliens did it
[18:01] * scooby-atwork think maybe the debunkers too
[18:02] <txroz> i was visiting with you during thangs giving
[18:02] <txroz> opps
[18:02] <scooby-atwork> i like that name better
[18:02] <txroz> I go to zetatalk site frequently
[18:03] <QueenVee> TXroz: remind me what part of the world you live in
[18:03] <monk> better call scooby for some tech support
[18:03] * scooby-atwork thinks QV has been 2 busy these days to remember everyone that comes here...
[18:03] <txroz> small town in siutheast tx
[18:03] <QueenVee> bad place to be during the shift....
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[18:04] <txroz> yes i will try to go up north around March
[18:05] <alex2221> txroz: where r u from??
[18:05] <txroz> its so hard to just uproot
[18:05] <txroz> Kirbyville
[18:05] <QueenVee> Alex: he is in s.e. texas
[18:05] <scooby-atwork> or she....
[18:06] <txroz> she for sure
[18:06] <QueenVee> txroz: well, you can simply plan a camping trip out of state at the right time, or visit relatives out of state...
[18:06] * scooby-atwork thinks Queen Vee needs a vacation
[18:06] <scooby-atwork> : )
[18:07] <QueenVee> lol
[18:07] <scooby-atwork> Check this out.... remember how the Zs said that some nations like Sweeden would try and let their people know in advance (about a week or so, if I remember correctly)
[18:07] * alex2221 plays - Antique - Opa opa - (44KHz/128Kbps/4.63MB)
[18:07] <txroz> only relatives are in NJ not much better off there
[18:07] <scooby-atwork> http://fp.enter.net/~haney/read.htm
[18:07] <QueenVee> true, txroz
[18:07] <scooby-atwork> Sweden Providing Platform for U.S. Officials Cowed by Bush
[18:07] <scooby-atwork> Intimidated bureaucrats regain their voice as protected guests of a genuinely democratic regime.
[18:07] <scooby-atwork> lol
[18:07] <txroz> i like vermont though
[18:09] <QueenVee> scooby -- wow, very very interesting. i like the name of that swedish talk show: "Nugen Farger"....
[18:09] <scooby-atwork> isn't that!
[18:11] <scooby-atwork> one of the guys who posts in the Activist board I admin posted that
[18:11] <QueenVee> mmmmmmmmm
[18:12] <scooby-atwork> http://www.activistsandiego.org/wwwboard/viewtopic.php?t=245
[18:13] <Zetapal> “I can assure you,” Williams told Swedish viewers, “that no one at CIA believes a word Bush said. What’s more, no one at CIA believes that Bush believes a word Bush said.”
[18:13] <QueenVee> heck, Bush can't even REMEMBER a word he says....
[18:14] <txroz> Amen
[18:15] <scooby-atwork> Bush only says what he is told to say
[18:15] <scooby-atwork> anyone who thinks differently is highly dillusional
[18:16] <txroz> i think daddy B still runs things
[18:16] <Zetapal> or dillusioned by design, courtesy of the media
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[18:20] <QueenVee> Gore has announced that he will not run in 2004 -- wonder if he knows.....
[18:21] <Zetapal> former MJ12 ?
[18:21] <monk> He just doesn't wanna be robed of president again
[18:21] <Zetapal> if so he should
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[18:21] <QueenVee> hello midwest -- welcome
[18:22] <QueenVee> no need to ask where you're from....
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[18:23] <QueenVee> hello bearz -- what brings you to this room?
[18:23] <scooby-atwork> QV: yeah, I heard that about Gore...
[18:23] <scooby-atwork> did you see him on SNL last nite?
[18:23] <scooby-atwork> very funny
[18:23] <QueenVee> no, i didn't....
[18:23] <midwest> brb
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[18:23] <bearz> just to connect with others who are aware of px and the shift
[18:23] <scooby-atwork> I'm sure it's on usenet
[18:23] <monk> he was kissing his wife at the beginning for a long time hehe
[18:23] <scooby-atwork> i missed that part
[18:23] <QueenVee> bearz: how long have you been aware of the poleshift?
[18:24] <bearz> for nearly 20 years
[18:24] <scooby-atwork> saw the Trent Lott thing tho: the Shrub on Hardball with Chris Matthews
[18:24] <scooby-atwork> bearz: where are you
[18:24] <bearz> us
[18:24] <bearz> high atop the ancient blue ridge
[18:25] <QueenVee> bearz: where did you first hear of it -- from Cayce?
[18:25] <bearz> no from visitors actually and preminitions
[18:25] <bearz> then other materials came into my life that confirmed the info
[18:25] <QueenVee> visitors = aliens
[18:25] <QueenVee> ?
[18:26] <bearz> some call them alien, yes.
[18:26] <QueenVee> can you be less enigmatic?
[18:26] <bearz> about what?
[18:26] <QueenVee> the visitors
[18:27] <bearz> i don't feel asthough they're alien thats why i said some call them "alien"
[18:27] <bearz> they're really our nieghbors
[18:27] <monk> our brothers and sisters
[18:27] <bearz> we're not the only ones home in the galaxy as you know... : )
[18:27] <bearz> yes monk
[18:27] <QueenVee> okay...... i'll be pedestrian about it...... are the visitors from another planet?
[18:27] <Zetapal> scoob - shrub - lol
[18:28] <bearz> some are yes
[18:28] <scooby-atwork> ZP: He is not qualified to be a full fledged bush
[18:29] <bearz> is anyone familiar with the emissary of light of light book?
[18:29] <QueenVee> so, bearz, have you been preparing for the shift?
[18:29] <QueenVee> nope
[18:29] <bearz> it's fascinating
[18:29] <QueenVee> got a link?
[18:29] <QueenVee> does it talk about the poleshift?
[18:29] <bearz> hold on lemme get it
[18:29] <bearz> no unfortunately
[18:29] <QueenVee> so the connection is....?
[18:29] <Zetapal> lol
[18:30] <bearz> what is zetapal?
[18:31] <Zetapal> bearz i was laughing at scoobs political commentary - another thread
[18:31] <bearz> thats all good
[18:31] <Zetapal> yeah
[18:31] <bearz> Queen, well the connection was or might be
[18:31] <from_Texas> roflmao
[18:32] <bearz> that if everyone who had hieghtened psychic abilities formed a group of some sort why not use their powers to prevent or lessen shift damage?
[18:32] <tied2> I got a 56k connection is that good enough?
[18:32] <QueenVee> bearz: because that would not be possible
[18:32] <bearz> really why not?
[18:33] <scooby-atwork> tied: rotf
[18:33] <QueenVee> the zetas have indicated that it is not possible
[18:33] <QueenVee> it's a delusionary idea on the part of humans
[18:33] <bearz> anyhow I found this most amazing book in a dollar store devoured it in about 5 hours & thought others might be interested
[18:33] <bearz> the url is www.emissarybooks.com
[18:33] <bearz> deluionary?
[18:34] <tied2> why does everyone refere to us as Humans like a third party?
[18:34] <scooby-atwork> humans = "other humans"
[18:34] <scooby-atwork> : )
[18:34] <bearz> it was the et's who informed me of our vast & infinite power when aligned with positive energy
[18:35] <QueenVee> this is a chat room for discussion about practical preparation for the poleshift -- not a place to trott out crackpot theories about wishing the poleshift away
[18:35] <bearz> no ones trotting crack pot theories merely suggesting other possibilities
[18:35] <bearz> exchange ideas listen and learn
[18:35] <bearz> i'm open to other ideas
[18:35] <QueenVee> those possibilities do not exist -- and to suggest they do is irresponsible -- leads people to believe there is no need to prepare
[18:36] <txroz> who is the author of this book bearz?
[18:36] <tied2> A good idea would be to prepare
[18:36] <bearz> i've been preparring ever since i was incarnated
[18:36] <QueenVee> the discussion of those kinds of theories is a huge and pointless distraction from the very serious business of how to prepare
[18:36] <bearz> mostly i'm interested in helping others
[18:37] <bearz> txroz to answer yr question...James Twyman
[18:38] <bearz> more importantly QV it needs to be brought up in mass media the preperation
[18:38] <QueenVee> bearz: any theories on how to accomplish that?
[18:38] <bearz> the more others are preparred the better
[18:38] <tied2> bearz well that ain't gonna happen
[18:38] <bearz> well then take a DIY approach to it
[18:39] <bearz> maybe not mass national media
[18:39] <tied2> I allways have
[18:39] <bearz> but why not utilize public access channels
[18:39] <bearz> create yr own informative show
[18:39] <tied2> knock yourself out
[18:39] <bearz> YOU asked me how it might happen?
[18:39] <QueenVee> bearz: sounds like a great idea. when are you going to get started?
[18:39] <bearz> I don't do TV anymore
[18:40] <QueenVee> no kidding
[18:40] <tied2> me either ever sence I had my inplants taken out
[18:40] <QueenVee> lol
[18:40] <scooby-atwork> tied: rotflmao
[18:40] <bearz> interesting under current of hostility in here buzzz
[18:40] <Zetapal> tied - i thought those were REAL
[18:40] <scooby-atwork> lip implants
[18:41] <QueenVee> well, until a public relations guru comes along, i guess we're just oging to have to keep doing what we're doing in terms of informing the public....
[18:41] <tied2> ZP thats why i never let you touch em
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[18:41] <QueenVee> hello chatty betty
[18:41] <scooby-atwork> lol
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[18:42] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room, chatty?
[18:42] <tied2> I'm here for the chicks :-)
[18:42] <QueenVee> Hello Guest: we have a troublemaker who comes to this channel who goes by the name of guest, so can you change your nickname please?
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[18:43] <scooby-atwork> bye bye guest
[18:43] <bearz> QV when did you learn of the shift & px?
[18:43] <Guest> my name is ron
[18:43] <scooby-atwork> guest: type this: /nick ron
[18:43] <tied2> I figure that when they see that planet in the sky a lot of chicks are gonna wanna get lucky just One more time
[18:43] <scooby-atwork> with the /
[18:43] <scooby-atwork> tied: yer funny
[18:44] <tied2> perpereably STO chicks
[18:44] <Guest> i met mark h about a year ago
[18:44] <txroz> bye bye all im taking a break
[18:44] <QueenVee> Guest: please type the following and hit enter: /nick Ron
[18:44] <monk> lol every webchat person is guest
[18:44] <scooby-atwork> unless they enter a nick before joining
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[18:45] <scooby-atwork> bye txroz
[18:45] <Guest> nick ron
[18:45] <scooby-atwork> ron, use the /
[18:45] <scooby-atwork> before
[18:45] <QueenVee> Guest, you have to put the / before Ron
[18:45] <QueenVee> bearz: in answer to your question....
[18:45] <Guest> nick/ron
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[18:45] <QueenVee> i've been aware of the poleshift from various sources since i was very young
[18:46] <Zetapal> tied - rotfl - your killin me
[18:46] <scooby-atwork> ron: type it like this: "/nick ron"
[18:46] <scooby-atwork> without the quotes
[18:46] <bearz> its amazing that seems to one of the common threads for many of us
[18:46] <QueenVee> bearz: yes, a lot feel that they have been preparing all their lives for this
[18:46] <Guest> ''/nickron''
[18:47] <bearz> i recall having preminitions of such events with fire balls falling from the sky
[18:47] <scooby-atwork> QV: need a space in there
[18:47] <QueenVee> Guest: you're being very funny. come back when you're feeling less funny.
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[18:48] <QueenVee> i'm really tired of assholes today
[18:48] <scooby-atwork> lol
[18:48] <bearz> me too everyday
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[18:48] <scooby-atwork> ( ) o ( )
[18:48] <QueenVee> bearz: what part of the US do you live in?
[18:48] <bearz> va the mtns
[18:48] <QueenVee> Virginia?
[18:48] <bearz> moved from buffalo
[18:48] <bearz> yeah
[18:48] <QueenVee> forgive me, i'm not an American, and don't know the abbreviations
[18:49] <bearz> oh
[18:49] <bearz> yes virgina
[18:49] <QueenVee> Zetapal is in virginia as well
[18:49] <bearz> its beautiful
[18:49] <bearz> qv where are you?
[18:49] <QueenVee> ontario canada
[18:50] <bearz> canada is great!!!!
[18:50] <bearz> always wanted to take the train trip accross canada
[18:51] <bearz> in 96 i had intuitive feelings against relocating to florida or the Caribbean
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[18:51] <bearz> I saw massive tidal waves while standing on the beach
[18:51] <bearz> wierd huh?
[18:51] <QueenVee> hello Batman -- what brings you to this room?
[18:51] <scooby-atwork> welcome back ron
[18:51] <scooby-atwork> : )
[18:51] <tied2> catwoman?
[18:52] <tied2> oh know that was me sorry
[18:52] <scooby-atwork> who wants to be robin?
[18:52] <Batman> hello i am new to this
[18:52] <bearz> robin was originally a girl
[18:52] <tied2> welcome bat man
[18:52] <tied2> rocken robin
[18:52] <QueenVee> Batman: where do you live?
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[18:53] <bearz> QV, what career path have you followed over the years?
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[18:53] <Batman> Wis
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[18:53] <QueenVee> bearz: i've worked in the canadian publishing industry for the last 20 years, in various capacities
[18:54] <bearz> communications....doesn't come as a surprise
[18:54] <bearz> do you write as well?
[18:54] <QueenVee> yes, i've published a few books
[18:54] <scooby-atwork> batman: where are you?
[18:54] <bearz> fascinating...would they be on this subject?
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[18:55] <QueenVee> bearz: no.... though a couple were on "new age" topics --- but i was the "technician" on those books, in a co-authorship situation
[18:55] <bearz> QV it's been my sincere pleasure chatting here, my other half has prepared our nest
[18:55] <bearz> can we do this again in the near future?
[18:55] <QueenVee> okay, do come back
[18:56] <scooby-atwork> bye bearz
[18:56] <QueenVee> if you want to be on our mailing list, give me your email address before you go
[18:56] <bearz> but plz no spam
[18:56] <scooby-atwork> lol
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[18:56] <scooby-atwork> QV doesn't spam
[18:56] <bearz> we get tonz of it already
[18:56] <Batman> wis what happened to the mirror site?
[18:56] <QueenVee> you have my absolute word that it will ONLY be used to send you info about events in this room
[18:56] <bearz> can i give it to you in private?
[18:57] <QueenVee> don't know what you're talking about, Batman....
[18:57] <QueenVee> bearz: yes, do you know how to do that?
[18:57] <bearz> no
[18:57] <QueenVee> bear: type this, then hit enter, and you will be in a private channel to me: /query QueenVee
[18:57] <bearz> okay
[18:57] <bearz> query queenvee
[18:58] <bearz> HA opps!
[18:58] <bearz> tired
[18:58] <scooby-atwork> or you can double click on her name and that will open a private channel
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[18:59] <scooby-atwork> wb tied
[18:59] <tied2> thanks
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[19:00] <QueenVee> scooby: all taken care of
[19:00] <QueenVee> Batman: what part of the world do you live in?
[19:01] <Batman> mirror site connected to troubled-times
[19:01] <scooby-atwork> QV: cool... it's my nature
[19:01] <QueenVee> ?
[19:01] <Batman> central wisconsin
[19:01] <scooby-atwork> he lives in the mirror :)
[19:01] <QueenVee> Batman: hey, good place to be during the shift; nancy lieder lives there
[19:02] <QueenVee> Batman: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[19:02] <Batman> wouldnt want to be fl
[19:02] <QueenVee> no kidding
[19:02] <QueenVee> i am also fortunate that i don't have to relocate....
[19:02] <Batman> aware about 6 mon
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[19:04] <QueenVee> Batman: so are you preparing yet?
[19:04] <QueenVee> hello pyramidman
[19:04] <Zetapal> Hi pyramid
[19:04] <pyramidman> Hello
[19:05] <QueenVee> i remember you being here a while ago....
[19:05] <QueenVee> remind me where you're from, pyramidman
[19:05] <Batman> dont know what to change
[19:05] <pyramidman> Michigan
[19:05] <QueenVee> Batman: do you live in the city, in the country?
[19:06] <Batman> coutry
[19:06] <QueenVee> and have you already stockpiled food and supplies?
[19:06] <Batman> I grow the darn stuff
[19:07] <QueenVee> pyramidman: we have a new website that has been launched since you were here last: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[19:07] <QueenVee> Batman: have you not read zetatalk? it will be very difficult to grow any kind of food in the first few years after the afterttime
[19:07] <QueenVee> after the poleshift, i mean
[19:07] <QueenVee> you're going to have to change a great deal
[19:08] <Batman> i know no sun
[19:08] <Batman> no fuel
[19:10] <pyramidman> Are the predictions the same for everywhere or is there a possibility that some places will have an ok growing possibility
[19:10] <QueenVee> everywhere will be affected by volcanic gloom.....
[19:10] <Batman> i'm heavy into farming but my family doesnt see the possiblity of what can happen
[19:11] <QueenVee> the volcanic gloom will lift sooner in some places than others, but that will take years....
[19:11] <scooby-atwork> batman: have you tried framing it in terms of "a natural earth change that has been documanted by geologists?"
[19:12] <QueenVee> ZT says that at best there might be a few minutes of sunlight coming through the clouds in a given day -- not enough to grow crops that need sun
[19:12] <pyramidman> Seems like the volcanic bloom would precipitate out after a couple of months with the constant drizzle
[19:12] <QueenVee> ZT says not
[19:12] <QueenVee> don't forget every volcano on earth will be erupting...
[19:13] <Batman> would you go with G-M scallon's version
[19:13] <Batman> of new map
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[19:13] <pyramidman> Do they just predict on a model or are they seeing the future,since time is a 3rd.density perspective
[19:13] <scooby-atlunch> bbl folks
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[19:17] <Zetapal> party
[19:17] <tied2> ZP did you like that one?
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[19:18] <Zetapal> yeah tied - actually i've got it - and the others to - Joe pesci, Al Pacino, Sgt Hartman
[19:18] <Zetapal> you've heard all those others yes?
[19:18] <tied2> ya punk
[19:18] <tied2> nope
[19:18] <Zetapal> lol
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[19:18] <Zetapal> oh man - lemmie hook you up
[19:19] <tied2> send em to tied
[19:19] <Zetapal> ok
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[19:23] <tied2> .lmao
[19:23] <from_Texas> what was that all about
[19:23] <monk> server split
[19:23] <tied2> ZP send me a funny song
[19:26] <tied2> brb i gotta go fry me a peanut butter samich
[19:26] <Zetapal> ok elvis
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[19:30] <tied2> oh man I knew i should have oped myself
[19:35] <tied2> where did Batman go?
[19:37] <monk> batman woohoo
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[19:37] <tied2> shu were not alowed to crack jokes about batman
[19:38] <QueenVee> holy crum -- we lost almost everybody
[19:38] <tied2> Holy jupiters BATMAN
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[19:41] <monk> !up
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[19:44] <tied2> " I thought love was only true in fiary tales "
[19:45] <tied2> whats the use in trin , all you get is pain
[19:45] <QueenVee> "i'm a believer"....
[19:45] <tied2> OHHHHHHHHHH I'm a believer
[19:45] <tied2> when I wanted sunshine i got rain
[19:46] <tied2> smashmouth version
[19:47] <tied2> a faster tempo
[19:47] <QueenVee> i like that version
[19:47] <tied2> me too
[19:47] <tied2> want it?
[19:47] <QueenVee> sure
[19:47] <tied2> oh never mind
[19:47] <tied2> lol I have to fix my dcc
[19:48] <QueenVee> np
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[19:54] <ukuz_zzz> :)
[19:54] <monk> Hello
[19:54] <QueenVee> hello ukuz
[19:54] <ukuz_zzz> hi all
[19:55] <monk> zzz off are you
[19:55] <ukuz_zzz> always
[19:55] <ukuz_zzz> :)
[19:55] <monk> me to
[19:56] <ukuz_zzz> well, im going to try to download the images again....
[19:56] <ukuz_zzz> :(
[19:56] <ukuz_zzz> (soooo slowwww...)
[19:57] <monk> thought u already did
[19:57] <ukuz_zzz> yes but it something went wrong in the download i think
[19:58] <ukuz_zzz> so....(sigh...)
[19:58] <ukuz_zzz> :/
[19:58] <ukuz_zzz> back to the old snail transfer
[19:58] <tied2> my music file is 2 gigs he he
[19:59] <monk> I need a 100 gig harddrive
[19:59] <ukuz_zzz> why is yahoo download so slow?
[19:59] <ukuz_zzz> >:[
[19:59] <monk> alot of people download from yahoo briefcase servers i guess
[20:00] <ukuz_zzz> grrrrr...
[20:01] <ukuz_zzz> did anone here get to successfully downlaod them?
[20:02] <ukuz_zzz> ayone
[20:02] <ukuz_zzz> anyone
[20:02] <ukuz_zzz> (why cant i type?)
[20:02] <scooby-atwork> haven;t tried
[20:03] <scooby-atwork> <=====fat fingers
[20:03] <ukuz_zzz> it would be nice and quick if someone could send it from here
[20:03] <ukuz_zzz> ;)
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[20:03] <scooby-atwork> ah finally....
[20:04] <scooby-atwork> was there a "net split" or something
[20:04] <ukuz_zzz> split?
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[20:05] <zag> hi
[20:05] <scooby-atwork> yeah... I was on this channel and went to lunch and everything went haywire
[20:05] <scooby-atwork> half the people left
[20:05] <scooby-atwork> hi zag
[20:05] <zag> hi
[20:05] <ukuz_zzz> interesting...
[20:06] <zag> any1 knows how to go about forming a group???
[20:06] <scooby-atwork> for what purpose?
[20:06] <zag> trough the internet
[20:06] <zag> survival
[20:06] <zag> local group
[20:06] <monk> where do u live
[20:06] <scooby-atwork> I would say network inyour area
[20:06] <zag> winnipeg manitoba
[20:06] <scooby-atwork> nice
[20:07] <zag> nice but cold
[20:07] <monk> umm I dont even know where that is
[20:07] <monk> canada?
[20:07] <scooby-atwork> yes
[20:07] <zag> haha yes
[20:07] <scooby-atwork> near Detroit, right?
[20:07] <ukuz_zzz> home of Billy Graham
[20:07] <zag> above north dacota
[20:08] <scooby-atwork> oic
[20:08] <monk> who thinks you are gonna die during the shift
[20:09] <scooby-atwork> where is Queen Vee?
[20:09] <monk> cause the poleshift is gonna be bad
[20:09] <monk> only people who will survive are the ones who supply food
[20:09] <zag> Queen Vee kicked me out last time
[20:11] <scooby-atwork> hmmmm...
[20:11] <scooby-atwork> why?
[20:11] <monk> yea she seems to kick everyone whos not hardcore about this kinda stuff
[20:12] <zag> just becouse I'm not as convinced as she is, I guess
[20:12] <monk> yea probaly
[20:12] <tied2> I know a girl from manatoba
[20:13] <zag> what's her name?
[20:13] <Zetapal> is this a limrick?
[20:13] <scooby-atwork> lol
[20:13] <tied2> Maralyn she works in a hospital in winnapeg
[20:13] <zag> who's limrick?
[20:13] <tied2> ZP noi lol
[20:13] <Zetapal> lol
[20:14] <Zetapal> ok shh no laughing
[20:14] <tied2> I once knew a girl from manatoba
[20:14] <zag> there are 700,000 people here. Never met her
[20:14] <Zetapal> right tied
[20:14] <scooby-atwork> lol
[20:14] <tied2> lol
[20:14] <zag> lol
[20:15] <scooby-atwork> oh, you're from Cananda? I know a guy named Steve with red hair. Do you know him?
[20:15] <scooby-atwork> rotflmao
[20:15] <tied2> lmao
[20:15] <scooby-atwork> Canada even
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[20:16] <Zetapal> party
[20:16] <scooby-atwork> there she goes
[20:16] <zag> Yah, Yah all the guys I know are red headed like in sweeden
[20:16] <tied2> op me zp
[20:16] <Zetapal> sveedan
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[20:16] <tied2> hah
[20:16] <zag> sweden
[20:16] <scooby-atwork> lol
[20:17] <scooby-atwork> back in the seat
[20:17] <Zetapal> sveedin yah
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[20:17] <tied2> lol
[20:17] <zag> yah
[20:17] <zag> There is some info on forming groups through the internet on the troubled times web page but all it says there is "groups on internet are formed somewhere else". I want to know where is the elswer?
[20:18] <zag> elswher
[20:18] <monk> groups are formed here sometimes
[20:18] <zag> I want to get a web page and get quite a few people working together around here
[20:19] <tied2> I'm sleepy
[20:19] <monk> queenvee had a good thing going but she took it off her webpage
[20:20] <tied2> oky doky nite nite
[20:20] <zag> you can get your group posted at the "teems" at Troubled Times
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[20:20] <zag> but how?
[20:20] <scooby-afk> sheesh
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[20:21] <scooby-afk> flakey connection at home
[20:21] <monk> hi texas
[20:21] <scooby-afk> i guess
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[20:21] <scooby-afk> hey tex
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[20:21] <from_Texas> hi
[20:21] <scooby-afk> here we go....
[20:23] <monk> zag maybe u should go solo
[20:24] <zag> I have a few friends getting together but I do not think youll be able to survive with less then 25 - 30 people
[20:24] <Zetapal> yeah yourself and a small harem
[20:24] <zag> all working together to form a community
[20:25] <zag> a few woman will be welcomed
[20:25] <monk> zag probaly less people the better
[20:26] <zag> more people more power, more resources, more ideas. You can start labour division and so on>
[20:27] <monk> you have to have alot of food to supply all these people
[20:27] <Zetapal> I've had an idea that I think is pretty unique that I'd like to share with you guys...
[20:27] <monk> go ahead zeta
[20:27] <zag> It is still same amount of people per person
[20:28] <Zetapal> its a strategy for securing a camp without attracting alot of attention....
[20:28] <zag> zeta go
[20:28] <Zetapal> if you have a campsite - ideally you want to keep raiders and wild animals out...
[20:29] <zag> yah
[20:30] <Zetapal> and you could do it with fencing of some type but that just draws attention, makes somebody think there's somethin inside worth stealin even if there isn't, and fences can be scaled....
[20:30] <Zetapal> well the idea is this...
[20:30] <Zetapal> you ever been driving down the highway and see those big rocks they use up underbriges and in drainworks?...
[20:31] <scooby-atwork> and
[20:31] <Zetapal> there like not huge, about a foot or two around, but not smooth, rough...
[20:32] <Zetapal> you could surround your camp with a rockfield and make it virtually impassable...
[20:32] <Zetapal> with those kind of rocks...
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[20:32] <zag> good one
[20:32] <Zetapal> thats basicallt it, use your imagination
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[20:33] <zag> queen vee: I have a question, are you there?
[20:33] <scooby-atwork> ah, she's back
[20:33] <QueenVee> yes?
[20:33] <zag> There is some info on forming groups through the internet on the "troubled times" web page but all it says there is "groups on the internet are formed somewhere else". I want to know where is the elsewhere? How to get my group name on the "Groups" page at "troubled times"?
[20:34] <zag> any idea?
[20:34] <QueenVee> Troubed-Times isn't doing anything like that. however, we are planning something like that for this group's website....
[20:34] <zag> but I'm from winnipeg, manitoba
[20:34] <QueenVee> a place where people can post profiles about themselves or their groups, and read others....
[20:35] <scooby-atwork> ZP: that's a good idea. Use natural camoflauge
[20:35] <scooby-atwork> i like it
[20:35] <zag> queen vee: is it running yet?
[20:35] <QueenVee> zag: we have a lot of members in canada; it's just a matter of giving people the space to advertise what they're "selling" so to speak
[20:36] <QueenVee> the website is running, but not that part of it yet
[20:36] * from_Texas goodnight group
[20:36] <QueenVee> nite tex
[20:36] <zag> ok
[20:36] <scooby-atwork> nit tex
[20:36] <QueenVee> sweet dreams
[20:36] <scooby-atwork> nite, even
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[20:37] <QueenVee> zag: tell me what it is you would hope to find, and i'll tell you if it's along the lines of what we're planning
[20:37] <Zetapal> yeah scoob it would make the site easier to guard at night as you only have to watch in one or two directions - and one things for certain, while somebody might try to walk through that rockfield, aint nobody gonna be runnin through it - so chances are they leave you alone or get a load of buckshot in their ass
[20:37] <QueenVee> this is the website address: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[20:37] <zag> I have a few guys, we are looking for more people with different skills
[20:38] <QueenVee> and what are you offering?
[20:39] <zag> we have a semitrailer, one phisiotherapist, chemist, one mechanich
[20:39] <zag> I'm interested in hidroponics and anything related to fish
[20:40] <QueenVee> and how would you want to be in touch with people who might be interested in you -- by email? or would you want to chat with them in this room, or....?
[20:40] <zag> First e-mail then even phone or in person
[20:41] <Zetapal> you sound serious zag - good for you - here's a link I'd like you to take a look at:
[20:41] <Zetapal> http://www.cargocontainers.com/
[20:41] <zag> ok
[20:41] <QueenVee> zag: would you also like to talk to people in your area who are preparing but may not be interested in joining your community -- e.g. for cooperative efforts, or just to trade notes?
[20:42] <zag> anything will be welcomed
[20:42] <QueenVee> okay, well, this is helpful.....
[20:43] <zag> this is my email "zagiell@hotmail.com" pass it around please
[20:44] <Zetapal> did you say north dakota?
[20:44] <zag> above north dacota
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[20:44] <Zetapal> ah
[20:44] <monk> hi froggy
[20:44] <QueenVee> zag: what i'm going to be doing is sending out a kind of a form for people to fill out -- contact name, email address, area, kind of contact desired, kind of people and skills to offer, kind of people and skills your looking for, kind of land, equipment, etc. -- and when people send them to me i will put them up in a special section
[20:44] <Zetapal> there's froggy
[20:44] <QueenVee> zag: does that appeal to you?
[20:44] <froggy> hi :)
[20:45] <Zetapal> where you been luv?
[20:45] <froggy> out
[20:45] <QueenVee> hi froggy
[20:45] <froggy> hi :)
[20:45] <zag> yes thanks Vee
[20:46] <QueenVee> okay, well, i have your email now -- so expect me to send you something within the next week....
[20:46] <QueenVee> ANYBODY HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT I SHOULD CALL THE SECTION OF THE WEBSITE WHERE PEOPLE CAN CONNECT WITH OTHERS IN THEIR AREA?
[20:46] <scooby-atwork> whoa.... no need to shout sistah
[20:46] <scooby-atwork> we hear you loud and clear
[20:47] <QueenVee> sorry
[20:47] <scooby-atwork> how about "Get connected"?
[20:47] <scooby-atwork> or "Get Local"
[20:47] <QueenVee> sounds like an advertisement for an internet service
[20:47] <monk> survivor connection
[20:47] <scooby-atwork> lol
[20:47] <Zetapal> lol
[20:47] <scooby-atwork> "Other Freaks"
[20:47] <scooby-atwork> lol
[20:47] <QueenVee> i'm looking more for a practical title that will make people immediately know what it's about
[20:47] <scooby-atwork> "Pole HSift Personals"
[20:47] <scooby-atwork> oops
[20:47] <zag> How about "groups forming"
[20:48] <scooby-atwork> or local groups
[20:48] <QueenVee> Connect With Other Survivors?
[20:48] <scooby-atwork> or "in your area"
[20:48] <QueenVee> except it's not just group oriented
[20:48] <QueenVee> Survivor Exchange?
[20:48] <scooby-atwork> lol
[20:48] <QueenVee> hey, i like that
[20:48] <scooby-atwork> sounds like a tv show
[20:48] <zag> "in your area" sounds good
[20:48] <Zetapal> Tribes
[20:48] <scooby-atwork> sounds religious
[20:48] <scooby-atwork> but intriguing
[20:48] <Zetapal> Tribe formation
[20:48] <froggy> survivor depot
[20:48] <scooby-atwork> i like that
[20:49] * QueenVee knew she was going to regret asking that question
[20:49] * scooby-atwork thinks she shouldn't have shouted so loud
[20:49] <zag> Vee: this is a goooood question
[20:49] <scooby-atwork> agreed
[20:49] <Zetapal> hey creation is ugly
[20:49] <QueenVee> lol, well said
[20:50] <QueenVee> well, look at the site, guys, and see how little space there is in the "links" module, and try to think up something succinct
[20:50] <zag> Guys, to make it clear: I'm about 2 hours drive, north from Grand Forks on Canadian side
[20:50] <QueenVee> i can create a special box that can be a little more wordy.... but still need something for the links module
[20:50] <Zetapal> Form Relationships
[20:50] <Zetapal> Reach Out
[20:50] <QueenVee> okay, zag, you can make that clear when i send you your form
[20:50] <scooby-atwork> ooo that's good
[20:50] <Zetapal> Offer Help
[20:51] <Zetapal> Give to Jerry's Kids
[20:51] <QueenVee> Survivor Networking
[20:51] <Zetapal> oops sorry
[20:51] <zag> I like "in your area"
[20:51] <QueenVee> well, carry on while i go and get a beer....
[20:51] <scooby-atwork> woot!
[20:51] <monk> Connecting each other
[20:51] <Zetapal> Preparedness Exchange
[20:52] <Zetapal> ugh
[20:52] <scooby-atwork> QV: anything with "survivor" is gonna sound like a TV show...
[20:52] <scooby-atwork> unfortunately
[20:52] <scooby-atwork> ZP: ugh, indeed
[20:52] <Zetapal> ok succint: Join A Group
[20:52] <Zetapal> Form A Group
[20:53] <Zetapal> Start A Group
[20:53] <monk> Others like you
[20:53] <scooby-atwork> why not just "Groups"
[20:54] <monk> Location Exchange
[20:54] <scooby-atwork> i thought the concept was to "CONNECT WITH OTHERS"
[20:54] <froggy> that's nice
[20:54] <scooby-atwork> monk: that's good
[20:54] <zag> I think she said: "it is not about groups only"
[20:54] <scooby-atwork> right
[20:55] <Zetapal> ooh
[20:55] <Zetapal> Establish Contacts
[20:55] <Zetapal> mmm
[20:55] <Zetapal> Make Friends
[20:55] <scooby-atwork> hmmmm
[20:56] <scooby-atwork> sounds too "personals" -y
[20:56] <Zetapal> Be the first on your Block - slice-o-matic
[20:56] <Zetapal> sorry
[20:56] <monk> bob lost his job want bobs job ?
[20:56] <QueenVee> i'm back
[20:57] <Zetapal> i'm front
[20:57] <monk> survior list
[20:57] <scooby-atwork> i think we are done brainstorming
[20:57] <QueenVee> i like CONNECT WITH OTHERS, or NETWORK WITH OTHERS
[20:57] <Zetapal> yeah
[20:57] <scooby-atwork> so flip a coin
[20:57] <scooby-atwork> lol
[20:57] <Zetapal> booty call
[20:57] <scooby-atwork> huh?
[20:57] <QueenVee> thanks, i appreciate the input
[20:58] <monk> sorpanoes on
[20:58] <zag> CONNECT WITH OTHERS
[20:58] <monk> err no its not!
[20:58] <scooby-atwork> i know I mentioned this earlier, but I think there are some new folks in here now
[20:58] <scooby-atwork> Sweden Providing Platform for U.S. Officials Cowed by Bush
[20:58] <QueenVee> zag: in the side box i'm going to add your suggestion IN YOUR AREA....
[20:58] <scooby-atwork> Intimidated bureaucrats regain their voice as protected guests of a genuinely democratic regime.
[20:58] <scooby-atwork> http://fp.enter.net/~haney/read.htm
[20:58] <QueenVee> scooby: no, no, no -- no repetition
[20:58] <QueenVee> hehe
[20:58] <scooby-atwork> lol
[20:59] <monk> anyone making plans for computer or playstation 2 after the shift ?
[20:59] <Zetapal> lol
[20:59] <Zetapal> boat anchor
[20:59] <monk> Ill be in their group
[21:00] <QueenVee> playstation? yeah, a sandbox
[21:00] <zag> Vee: nice web page http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/
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[21:00] <QueenVee> thanks, zag, i had a lot of help from Ralf (who is my personal hero)
[21:00] <QueenVee> Ralf: ARE YOU THERE?
[21:01] <zag> I like Ralf already
[21:01] <scooby-atwork> i don't think he is
[21:01] <monk> hes always listening to us bable
[21:01] <Ralf> im in the middle of attempting to fix the network
[21:01] <QueenVee> i wanted to tell him that my mother thinks the website is "pretty"....
[21:01] <scooby-atwork> ah.....
[21:01] <Zetapal> Ralf only comes when you give "The Call"
[21:01] <scooby-atwork> i feel safer now
[21:01] <QueenVee> lol
[21:01] <scooby-atwork> : )
[21:01] <Zetapal> see
[21:01] <Ralf> my roommate's comments were
[21:01] <scooby-atwork> g1 ZP
[21:01] <QueenVee> the call being Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalf
[21:01] <Ralf> "thats uglier than a hat full of assholes"
[21:01] <QueenVee> lol
[21:01] <Ralf> "you should be ashamed to have developed something that looks like that"
[21:02] <Ralf> but
[21:02] <zag> Ralf" ditch your roommat
[21:02] <Ralf> he's my harshest critic
[21:02] <Ralf> which is why we work very well together, and produce incredible results
[21:02] <QueenVee> well, my mom thinks its "pretty"....
[21:02] <Zetapal> Ralf have you read zetatalk yet? you nerd
[21:02] <Ralf> Zetapal: i've read it, it's a bit beyond me
[21:02] <QueenVee> HEY! nobody disses Ralf in my chat room!
[21:02] <Ralf> i can understand and accept the concept of shifting poles
[21:03] <zag> I'm new here. Where can I read the "ZetaTalk"?
[21:03] <Ralf> zag: www.zetatalk.com
[21:03] <scooby-atwork> lol...
[21:03] <Zetapal> wow
[21:03] <QueenVee> zag -- are you SERIOUS?
[21:03] <zag> lol
[21:03] <QueenVee> you've never read zetatalk?
[21:03] <scooby-atwork> zag snuck in while you were gone
[21:03] <Zetapal