Session Start: Mon Dec 16 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] <scooby-atwork> all right folks... i'm outta here...
[00:00] <RNTHOMAS> Living on the Zetatalk website...
[00:00] <scooby-atwork> see ya later
[00:00] <sheshach> personally...i think the zetas are demons
[00:00] <RNTHOMAS> Have Fun Scoby..
[00:00] <fetus> later scooby
[00:00] <scooby-atwork> l8r g8r
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[00:01] <sheshach> are the government
[00:01] <fetus> demons sending a message of survival?
[00:01] <RNTHOMAS> sheshach - Why do you have that opinion?
[00:01] <sheshach> or
[00:01] <sheshach> no...God is going to bring jdgement on the world....isaiah 24
[00:02] <RNTHOMAS> sheshach ;- Why are Zeta's Deamons?
[00:02] <sheshach> the zetas are just trying to covertly misdirect the purpose and meaning of this judgement
[00:03] <fetus> who is god in our bible sheshach?...who made those rules?
[00:03] <RNTHOMAS> sheshach:- and how do you come up with that conclusion...
[00:03] <fetus> in my opinion its a ruthless race known as the annunaki...
[00:04] <RNTHOMAS> fetus:- annunaki IMHO aren't ruthless.. They made us...
[00:04] <sheshach> isaiah 13:11-12 "I will punish the world for its evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; I will halt the arrogance of the proud, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible."
[00:05] <fetus> they made us to be used as a pure slave to work for them.
[00:05] <sheshach> "I will make a mortal more rare than fine gold."
[00:05] <fetus> they had no intentions of watching us grow like we have....only intentions to flew in there ships when the planet returned..
[00:06] <fetus> those arnt the words of my god.
[00:06] <sheshach> isaiah 13:13 "therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth will move out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts and in the day of His fierce anger."
[00:07] <fetus> those are the words of a tyrant ruling over a group of slaves...
[00:07] <RNTHOMAS> fetus: they are just as we are, except more adances...
[00:08] <fetus> notice how there is alot in the bible of what will happen to us but very little on how to survive or what to do about it...not my god..
[00:08] <sheshach> the zetas are demons...satan's group...they know what God has planned
[00:08] <RNTHOMAS> sheshach:- I've read your stuff. I still don't see how you derive the conclusions you did from the text...
[00:08] <sheshach> they are trying to act like the good guys
[00:09] <fetus> sheshach: do you beleive the god in bible is the true god of the universe speaking?
[00:09] <sheshach> of course...without question...i am one pot that will not boast to the potter
[00:09] <RNTHOMAS> sheshach:- Ok trying to act like good guys, your RIGHT WE GOTTA KILL EM ALL! (I think not!)
[00:09] <fetus> ok, we cant argue on this then..
[00:10] <fetus> why are you in here?
[00:10] <sheshach> i'm a spy
[00:10] <fetus> i see
[00:10] <sheshach> lol
[00:10] <RNTHOMAS> sheshach:- You need to provide a bit more information then that to convince us..
[00:11] <RNTHOMAS> shashach:- A spy for Satan! Is that what you are?
[00:12] <fetus> our bible is an attempt to scare people into behaving a certain way.....this is bad....no god of mine or the universe imo would use these kind of tactics....unless of course our universe is run by satan...
[00:12] <RNTHOMAS> Gods laws are the laws of love, and caring for one another. You preach killing and destruction... You could be a spy for Satan...
[00:13] <RNTHOMAS> fetus:- it's also been edited to suite the church and the elite. The only part not overly messed with it Revelations.
[00:13] <sheshach> isaiah 24:18-20 "for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth are shaken. the earth is violently broken, the earth is split open, the earth is shaken exceedingly. the earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall totter like a hut"
[00:13] <fetus> right
[00:13] <fetus> stop spouting passages....no ops...damn.
[00:14] <fetus> we can all go read them if we choose to..
[00:14] <sheshach> the biggest lie satan ever foisted on man was that God is some kind old man in a white robe full of kindness
[00:14] <sheshach> God is to be feared...
[00:15] <RNTHOMAS> sheshach:- That is an elite teaching... God is not to be feared
[00:15] <fetus> hahaha
[00:15] <sheshach> He is all powerful and will destroy anything that does not obey or please Him
[00:15] <RNTHOMAS> fetus: This is beginnig to be the humor club...
[00:15] <fetus> god is to be feared...haha so god must be bush?..or sadam??
[00:16] <fetus> are you trying to convince us of something sheshach?
[00:16] <sheshach> nope
[00:17] <sheshach> just a heads up...take it or leave it
[00:17] <fetus> um...we have our heads up....and were looking for a planet not god.
[00:18] <RNTHOMAS> sheshach:- Your mind is still under the control of the elites. Their chief teaching is to Frear God, that teaching was put in place to make you keep AWAY from God and Knowing Mind...
[00:18] <fetus> and to keep you under control
[00:19] <sheshach> but the prophecies of isaiah and jeremiah and ezekiel clearly state that the ruling elite will be destroyed and come to nothing
[00:19] <sheshach> that they are nothing
[00:19] <sheshach> and will perish
[00:19] <RNTHOMAS> sheshach:- We all agree with you on this.
[00:20] <fetus> do you beleive in reincarnation sheshach?
[00:20] <RNTHOMAS> Read the book of Matthew, understand it's meanings, as it is the correct way to worship.
[00:20] <sheshach> hard to say...
[00:22] <fetus> many people i have talk to that believe in heaven and hell have a very hard time not fearing god.
[00:23] <RNTHOMAS> sheshach:- Fear of God takes you away from knowing him, learning from him, learning his wisdom.
[00:23] <sheshach> what is it that Jesus says in matthew 24?..."take heed that no one deceives you."
[00:24] <fetus> im convinced all the fear in the bible is straight from the mouth of the annunaki.
[00:25] <RNTHOMAS> sheshach:- Correct, is the way of god to kill things just because they are diferent from you?
[00:25] <sheshach> "for many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many."
[00:25] <RNTHOMAS> sheshach:- If you know God in your heart, not thru fear, you will know who the deceivers are.
[00:26] <sheshach> the ruling elite?...
[00:26] <sheshach> whoever they are....world banks....new world order folks...
[00:26] <RNTHOMAS> The ruling elite of the world and church are known to deceive.. Yup..
[00:27] <RNTHOMAS> The News Media, the way they use television to condition people... ANd deceive them...
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[00:27] <RNTHOMAS> TV / Radio, the News...
[00:28] <sheshach> probably so....that is why even though nibiru may bring physical death...if it comes...i will be happy to see it
[00:28] <RNTHOMAS> You should already know this...
[00:28] <sheshach> God will finally not tarry and start kicking some ass
[00:28] <sheshach> love it
[00:29] <RNTHOMAS> sheshach:- Matthew also talks about helping others, and how you do it in such a way as to avoid Fame.
[00:29] <RNTHOMAS> I myself, don't love it.
[00:30] <RNTHOMAS> I personally feel sad for the 90% of the population that will be dead after the pole shift...
[00:30] <fetus> "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." -Buddha
[00:31] <sheshach> but....we will be in a better place....God has mercy on His people....we may die, but the kingdom awaits
[00:31] <sheshach> the world languishes and fades away...
[00:31] <fetus> ah the kingdom...so you do believe in heaven?
[00:32] <RNTHOMAS> I talk with people who have researched all this since the 70's. This one person thinks the polshift will be great too, he will be able to fly over all the dead bodies and plunk at his harp..
[00:32] <RNTHOMAS> And laugh at everyone...
[00:33] <RNTHOMAS> sheshach:- to me, God is taking responsibility for yourself, your family, living your life, and above all being of service to others...
[00:33] <fetus> yes...a god ruling sts would be much like your god shechach
[00:33] <sheshach> true....help your fellow man
[00:34] <sheshach> but serve God
[00:34] <RNTHOMAS> Many people of the polshift are expecting a free ride simply because they have studied stuff, and can spout knowledge that they've read.. It's not about that..
[00:34] <fetus> exactly..
[00:35] <fetus> only an sts race would need to serve their god.....they need the structure and boundries to feel comfortable in life..
[00:35] <sheshach> i think i'll probably die in the poleshift....wouldn't expect anything else
[00:35] <sheshach> but if God decrees it...it must pass
[00:35] <RNTHOMAS> The way the poleshift is discussed here, the world will be born again, a new sky, a new day, minus the elite. It will be a world inhabited by those that help others...
[00:35] <RNTHOMAS> Glory to the Meek for they shall inherit the earth.
[00:36] <RNTHOMAS> It is the Meek who help others, and are usually being stepped on.
[00:36] <RNTHOMAS> Hence they are the Meek.
[00:36] <sheshach> absolutely
[00:36] <fetus> a true service to others person does not need the rules and laws of any elite or any god.
[00:37] <sheshach> just as the parable in the bible goes about the tares being among the wheat
[00:37] <RNTHOMAS> fetus: correct, they know them
[00:37] <sheshach> and the harvest is near
[00:37] <RNTHOMAS> because they are not afraid of god, rather they try to learn from his teachings.
[00:37] <fetus> yes..by instinct
[00:37] <RNTHOMAS> by instinct :- What I cal Knowing Mind.
[00:38] <fetus> yes..freely comunicating with the soul.
[00:38] <RNTHOMAS> We do not fear god, even tho he is in everything.. Rocks, Trees Mountains...
[00:39] <sheshach> it will be interesting this spring....i suspect this is a hoax...but we will see
[00:39] <RNTHOMAS> Even if it is a hoax, there is enuff evidence out there...
[00:39] <fetus> if it is a hoax i truley believes its just the date thats been hoaxed...the evidence for this is to overwhelming..
[00:40] <RNTHOMAS> Sitchin's work... Depicting the solar system complete with a planet X from 6000 years ago...
[00:40] <RNTHOMAS> At JPL and Nasa, they see the effects of this Planet X...
[00:40] <sheshach> it does make alot of since
[00:41] <fetus> i have read that zetatalk is a government run operation designed to make it look "crazy" and to get people to look in the wrong place at the wrong time.
[00:41] <RNTHOMAS> Then in your own Bible, the Noah tale
[00:41] <sheshach> could explain the ice ages, dinosaur extinction, the great flood, the exodus from egypt
[00:41] <sheshach> sense
[00:41] <RNTHOMAS> The frozen wooly mamoths in russia, complete with food still in their mouths...
[00:42] <fetus> pyrimids and zigurats found world wide.
[00:42] <RNTHOMAS> They have examined old Trees, found a spot 2628 years ago where the rings were narrow...
[00:43] <sheshach> something has happened that brought worldwide disaster...no doubt
[00:43] <RNTHOMAS> This has been confirmed worldwide...
[00:43] <RNTHOMAS> Sorry 3628 years ago...
[00:43] <fetus> night all
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[00:43] <RNTHOMAS> These are the effects of the last poleshift..
[00:43] <RNTHOMAS> Have a good one fetus.
[00:44] <RNTHOMAS> It's not If a poleshift is comming it's when...
[00:44] <sheshach> i've always wondered why it took so long for the americas to be discovered and settled
[00:44] <sheshach> probably they have been "discovered" many times
[00:44] <RNTHOMAS> Geologic Data also suggest the mountains and contenental shift occurs in a very fast manner, not thousands of years as previously believe...
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[00:45] <RNTHOMAS> They keep moving... Submergin under water, re-surfacing...
[00:45] <sheshach> explains the fossils from sealife found in the mountains
[00:46] <RNTHOMAS> Hence atalantas, and in some places roads can be seen that start on dry land, and run into the water and keep going.
[00:46] <RNTHOMAS> Exactly...
[00:46] <sheshach> and the underwater cities
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[00:46] <sheshach> yes....what i wonder is
[00:47] <RNTHOMAS> Yes, look around you, make your puzzle, fit the pieces to make a complete picture.
[00:47] <sheshach> is there an organization that has always known the secret?....that this would come?
[00:47] <sheshach> for centuries keeping the secret
[00:47] <RNTHOMAS> Yes...
[00:47] <RNTHOMAS> Many organizations...
[00:48] <RNTHOMAS> The Catholic church has archives of this stuff.
[00:48] <RNTHOMAS> Freemasons and Illuminatti also have all this knowledge...
[00:48] <sheshach> figures...strange
[00:48] <RNTHOMAS> Look at it this way...
[00:48] <sheshach> the freemasons ...what a creepy bunch
[00:49] <RNTHOMAS> If you are Evil, what good is it to rule over a few hundred people...
[00:49] <RNTHOMAS> Instead you wanna take as MANY SOLES AS YOU CAN WITH YOU.
[00:50] <RNTHOMAS> The more people that know about all this, and make a choice to be service to others, the less people they get to DRAG DOWN WITH THEM!
[00:50] <RNTHOMAS> Hence the cover up.
[00:50] <RNTHOMAS> That is the top level...
[00:50] <sheshach> makes sense
[00:51] <RNTHOMAS> Next Layer is the political / Govt Layer - They don't want panic... So they keep everyone un-informed so as to cause as much die off as possible... The Illuminatii agenda - Reduce Population to 500 Million.
[00:52] <RNTHOMAS> Keep people uneducated on all fronts. What to eat. How to Eat. Pollute their bodies with poisons (pesticides on food).
[00:52] <RNTHOMAS> Make em breath Alluminum ( Chemtrails )
[00:53] <sheshach> the chem trails are bizarre
[00:53] <RNTHOMAS> Make em breath radiation ( Left overs from the years of nuclear tests underground )
[00:53] <sheshach> what do you think is the ultimate goal with the chem trails?
[00:53] <RNTHOMAS> There are about 3 possibilities...
[00:54] <RNTHOMAS> 1. Aluminum to deflect suns energy back into space to reduce green house effect.
[00:54] <RNTHOMAS> There are patents in place for this...
[00:55] <RNTHOMAS> 2. Weapon which when combined with HAARP could cause the atmosphere to obsorb RF enegy, and expand to form a shield.
[00:55] <sheshach> have you read about the russians and their scalar weaponry?
[00:56] <RNTHOMAS> 3. Culling and Dumbing of the population by breathing Aluminum... But it also may bring that Radiation circulating above from years and years of tests...
[00:56] <RNTHOMAS> I've heard about it... It came from Nikola Tesla...
[00:56] <RNTHOMAS> I see it serving many purposes, not just one.
[00:56] <RNTHOMAS> chemtrails I mean.
[00:57] <sheshach> wondering if the chem trails might be an attempt at visualizing longitudinal interferometer waves in the atmosphere
[00:57] <RNTHOMAS> If the population is sick, weakened, how will they survive a pole-shift.
[00:57] <RNTHOMAS> I don't see why they'd bother. They have the power sources up and running on scalar power...
[00:58] <sheshach> maybe it interferes with the waves....
[00:58] <RNTHOMAS> The can calculate em... The REAL maxwells equations (not the ones taught in university) did this...
[00:59] <sheshach> the storm front that swept through the midwest a few months back....very interesting
[01:00] <sheshach> electrical activity like i have never seen....thunder was almost constant
[01:00] <RNTHOMAS> Well all of this was predicted back in 1995.. And even earlier by your Bible.
[01:01] <RNTHOMAS> It's going to keep getting worse...
[01:01] <RNTHOMAS> Buildings are going to start imploding...
[01:01] <RNTHOMAS> This is all before the shift.
[01:02] <sheshach> glad i live far out in the country....i do feel for the cities and suburban areas
[01:02] <RNTHOMAS> Then about 1 week before, the earth stops rotating...
[01:02] <sheshach> buildings imploding?...from?
[01:02] <RNTHOMAS> When the polshift starts, we will have Ricter 9 earthquakes...
[01:02] <RNTHOMAS> Earth shifting underneath...
[01:03] <sheshach> oh...yes...bad quakes...people don't even know....
[01:03] <RNTHOMAS> The continents will shift and start moving, some at 100 miles per hour...
[01:03] <RNTHOMAS> During the Rictor 9 quakes...
[01:03] <sheshach> i have read that the earthquakes will have vertical movements of bedrock as well as horizontal
[01:03] <RNTHOMAS> Anything not buried, will be gone or damaged.
[01:04] <RNTHOMAS> Exacctly..
[01:04] <sheshach> debris tossed thousand of feet into the air
[01:04] <RNTHOMAS> You'll need to dig a shallow ditch, put a lid over the ditch (metal would work)
[01:05] <RNTHOMAS> anchor it down well, coat the inside with soft stuff, as your gonna get bounced all over the place.
[01:05] <RNTHOMAS> This will be the day when no-body will be able to stand...
[01:05] <sheshach> i think i'll just gaze in amazement at the phenomenon when it occurs and die ....lol...be one of the culled
[01:06] <RNTHOMAS> Your choice...
[01:06] <sheshach> cause if i survive i will be out to kill all of the ruling elite i can track down
[01:06] <RNTHOMAS> You won't have to...
[01:06] <RNTHOMAS> God will deal with them...
[01:06] <RNTHOMAS> When they die, they will not re-incarnate back...
[01:07] <RNTHOMAS> They will head to some other even nicer place, along with all those that have not chosen...
[01:08] <RNTHOMAS> Hence the Bibles words about Glory to the Meek for they shall inherite the earth has real meaning.
[01:08] <sheshach> lol...i hear that they will go to the "service to self" place...sheol....HELL
[01:08] <RNTHOMAS> Nope.. Just some other star system or place...
[01:09] <RNTHOMAS> If you try to survive, and help lots of people, your sole may evolve a few million lifetimes in just this one lifetime.
[01:09] <sheshach> nice chatting rnt...nite
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[09:29] <froggy> hi
[09:29] <QueenVee> hi froggy
[09:29] <froggy> i was looking something up, maybe you can help me qv
[09:30] <QueenVee> ok
[09:30] <froggy> do you know much about being pagan?
[09:30] <QueenVee> yes, i do -- what do you want to know?
[09:31] <froggy> well, i thought it was about the earth and nature...it that true?
[09:31] <QueenVee> partly
[09:32] <froggy> i don't know much, just started reading about it, but one thing didn't seem right
[09:32] <QueenVee> what's that?
[09:33] <froggy> is being pagan about kindness at all?
[09:34] <QueenVee> it's about love and respect for all living things....
[09:34] <QueenVee> define "kindness".....
[09:34] <froggy> does it have anything to do with demons?....i know that sounds strange, but i will explain
[09:35] <QueenVee> no, it doesn't have anything to do with demons -- that is satanism
[09:35] <froggy> that's what i thought
[09:35] <QueenVee> paganism -- or Wicca -- is a highly benevolent faith
[09:35] <froggy> hold on one min
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[09:38] <froggy> when i looked it up, it was under paganfed.demonww.pa
[09:38] <froggy> what's that all about?
[09:38] <monk> hi
[09:38] <QueenVee> hi monk
[09:38] <froggy> hi, monk
[09:38] <monk> whats up
[09:39] <froggy> i was asking qv a question
[09:39] <QueenVee> well, that link doesn't work, so i can't tell you what it's about
[09:39] <QueenVee> remember that people misapply the term "pagan" as much as they misuse the label of "christian"....
[09:40] <QueenVee> there are a lot of people who call themselves "christians" who are anything but
[09:41] <monk> christian is "christ Follower"
[09:41] <froggy> http://www.paganfed.demon.co.uk/news.htm
[09:43] <QueenVee> lol
[09:43] <QueenVee> froggy, you're so funny...
[09:43] <QueenVee> "demon" is a county in england
[09:43] <froggy> i am, why?
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[09:44] <QueenVee> the name of the organization is PAGANFED; DEMON CO = Demon County; UK = United Kingdom
[09:44] <froggy> i am such a jerk...he he
[09:44] <QueenVee> sorry, i just thought it was very funny
[09:44] <froggy> it is funny
[09:45] <froggy> i was all upset
[09:45] <QueenVee> lol
[09:45] <froggy> it didn't seem right
[09:45] <froggy> but, then i wasn't sure
[09:45] <QueenVee> well, there ya go
[09:46] <froggy> thank you :) :)
[09:46] <QueenVee> :-)
[09:46] <froggy> i feel much better
[09:46] <QueenVee> good
[09:46] <QueenVee> you came to the right person
[09:46] <froggy> go ahead, kick me
[09:47] <QueenVee> not only do i know about paganism, but i also know England very well
[09:47] <QueenVee> nah, i ain't gonna kick you
[09:47] <froggy> have you been to stonehenge
[09:47] <QueenVee> oh, yes!
[09:47] <froggy> what did you think?
[09:47] <QueenVee> i spent five months cycling Great Britain when i was younger
[09:48] <QueenVee> Stonehenge was the highlight of the trip
[09:48] <froggy> why?
[09:48] <QueenVee> it's a remarkable place
[09:48] <QueenVee> great energy and power there
[09:48] <froggy> did you feel anything?
[09:48] <QueenVee> very visually stunning
[09:48] <QueenVee> yes, very much so
[09:49] <froggy> what do you think it is?
[09:49] <QueenVee> the spiritual energy that all sacred sites have....
[09:49] <QueenVee> that is, the energy of all the people who have worshipped there
[09:49] <QueenVee> over eons
[09:50] <froggy> well, couldn't any site have that?
[09:50] <QueenVee> any site that has been used for spiritual purposes over a long period of time, yes
[09:51] <froggy> what about easter island, what do you think of that?
[09:51] <QueenVee> not a sacred site.... but very interesting historically....
[09:52] <froggy> thanks so much for the info :)
[09:52] <QueenVee> :-)
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[09:52] <froggy> bye
[09:53] <QueenVee> bye froggy
[09:53] <QueenVee> hello MaxS
[09:53] <MaxS> Hello how are you?
[09:53] <froggy> please tell monk i did not mean to be rude to him :)
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[09:53] <QueenVee> i'm good -- what brings you to this room?
[09:53] <MaxS> I happened upon your website, while researching PX.
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[09:53] <QueenVee> hey RN
[09:54] <QueenVee> Max: that's great -- how long have you been aware of PX/Poleshift?
[09:54] * QueenVee sets mode: +o tex-away
[09:54] <MaxS> At least a year now, but recently have become more fervently interested.
[09:54] <QueenVee> what part of the world do you live in?
[09:54] <MaxS> I live in Pennsylvania USA
[09:54] <RNTHOMAS> Mornin QV... How goes, Ralf just helped me fix my messed up NickServ account... So I am Great thanks to Ralf...
[09:54] <QueenVee> i am in ontario canada, RN is in BC Canada....
[09:55] <QueenVee> RN: ralf is a godsend -- so you are registered now?
[09:55] <QueenVee> Max: good place to be for the shift
[09:55] <QueenVee> Max: are you preparing yet?
[09:55] <MaxS> I have begun slowly, mostly supplies...
[09:56] <QueenVee> Max: when you say you came upon our site, which one do you mean?
[09:56] <MaxS> http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[09:56] <QueenVee> ah, ok
[09:56] <MaxS> Are there others?
[09:56] <QueenVee> i thought you might have meant www.zetatalk.com
[09:56] <MaxS> Oh I see.
[09:57] <QueenVee> which is nancy lieder's site
[09:57] <QueenVee> do you live in a city, in the country? do you have a family, children?
[09:58] <MaxS> I live in the country, no family.
[09:58] <QueenVee> well, at least you don't have to relocate
[09:58] <MaxS> Thankfully.
[09:58] <MaxS> Well, at least I am finding this to be inspirational in regards to my writing.
[09:58] <QueenVee> within the next week we're going to be setting up a new section on our website, designed to help people contact other "poleshifters" in their area....
[09:59] <MaxS> I'm an aspriring Sci-fi/fact author.
[09:59] <QueenVee> if you would like to be on our mailing list for information about how to get involved with that, just give me your email address on a private channel
[09:59] <QueenVee> ah, interesting
[09:59] <QueenVee> thanks. you have my word it will not be given out or used for any other purpose
[09:59] <MaxS> I trust you.
[10:00] <QueenVee> how long have you been writing sci-fi?
[10:00] <MaxS> Around 5 years
[10:01] <MaxS> Nothing published, yet.
[10:01] <QueenVee> so you're working the poleshift into your story lines?
[10:01] <MaxS> I'm trying. ;)
[10:01] <MaxS> I'm very interested in the post-shift world.
[10:02] <QueenVee> it's going to be very difficult.... and very exciting....
[10:02] <MaxS> YEs
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[10:03] <MaxS> How long have you been following the pole-shift, Queenvee
[10:03] <tex-at-work> hi QV
[10:03] <QueenVee> hey tex
[10:04] <RNTHOMAS> Mornin tex..
[10:04] <QueenVee> Max: i've been aware of the coming poleshift since i was a teenager -- and i'm 43 now
[10:04] <QueenVee> tex: meet Max, he's in pennsylvania
[10:04] <MaxS> Wow. How did you become aware so early?
[10:04] <tex-at-work> hello RN
[10:04] <QueenVee> tex is in...... texas - can you believe it?
[10:04] <tex-at-work> :)
[10:04] <tex-at-work> hi Max
[10:04] <MaxS> Hello
[10:05] <QueenVee> Max: first read about it in Edgar Cayce's work; then studied for a time with a local psychic/channeler who provided me with extensive material about it....
[10:06] <QueenVee> when i was younger i was intensely interested in survivalism, but eventually put the whole thing on the backburner as i pursued a career in the big city, etc
[10:06] <QueenVee> ran across zetatalk about a year ago...
[10:07] <MaxS> Who's work do you believe to be the more "accurate" Cayce's or Nancy's?
[10:07] <QueenVee> Nancy's
[10:07] <QueenVee> but there are no serious discrepancies between them
[10:08] <MaxS> Well, I haven't looked much into Cayce's work yet, I've only read of discrepancies, but that's what I get for assuming someone else was being honest.
[10:08] <QueenVee> any kind of channeled/translated material is subject to distortion/error due to the degree that the person's beliefs/biases cloud interpretation of what they are receiving
[10:09] <QueenVee> the material is only as "pure" as the "receiver" is....
[10:09] <QueenVee> i've read A LOT of such material over the years, and instead of worrying about which one is "right" and which one is "wrong" -- as many people do....
[10:09] <QueenVee> i look for the correlations and consistencies between them....
[10:09] <MaxS> It's probably best to find a median between them all.
[10:10] <QueenVee> and assume that that information is the most "pure" or "accurate"
[10:10] <MaxS> How long has your site been up, are there any archives?
[10:10] <QueenVee> Nancy's material is unique in that it draws together all of those common threads into a coherent whole
[10:11] <QueenVee> it also has a strong accuracy record in terms of her predictions over the past five years
[10:11] <MaxS> Yes, I find that Nancy's work is overwhelmingly convincing
[10:12] <QueenVee> MaxS: the site has been up for less than a month; and yes, there's an archive for that period, which can be found here: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Stories_Archive
[10:12] <QueenVee> this chat group has been going for about 6 months
[10:13] <MaxS> How have you been preparing Queenvee?
[10:13] <QueenVee> hold on, i'm just making a cup of coffee...
[10:13] <MaxS> Sure
[10:20] <QueenVee> i'm back
[10:20] <QueenVee> sorry about that
[10:20] <MaxS> It's ok.
[10:21] <QueenVee> how am i preparing....
[10:21] <QueenVee> well, i've relocated....
[10:21] <MaxS> To Ontario?
[10:21] <QueenVee> and i've been extensively researching and putting together a detailed plan to put into effect at a certain time
[10:21] <QueenVee> well the relocation thing is a big of a long story -- ya got time?
[10:22] <MaxS> Absolutely
[10:22] <QueenVee> when i was a kid i used to have recurring dreams about surviving a catastrophe with my cousin Linda, being in water up to our knees, watching the waters recede....
[10:23] <QueenVee> my cousin and i ended up on separate ends of the country, me in toronto for the past 20 years, her in BC....
[10:23] <QueenVee> about a year ago, my mother fell ill and i made the decision to move to my hometown of London, Ontario to look after her temporarily....
[10:24] <QueenVee> unbeknownst to me, my cousin in BC at the same time made the decision to come back to the London area....
[10:24] <QueenVee> we have since reconnected and become very close
[10:24] <QueenVee> she has an ideal place in the country about 30 miles from here, which she has invited me to come and live at any time i want
[10:25] <QueenVee> so that's going to be my poleshift haven
[10:25] <MaxS> Wow that's very interesting. Especially the shared dreams and the moving at the same time.
[10:25] <QueenVee> how many members of my family i'm going to be able to convince to join us, i don't know yet
[10:26] <QueenVee> i've broached the subject to my mother very gently, and am surprised at how receptive she is to it....
[10:26] <QueenVee> but i've not told herhow bad it's gonna be
[10:26] <MaxS> Really? I find it difficult to find anyone who thinks this has any validity. It's a shame so many people remain ignorant of it.
[10:27] <QueenVee> anyways... so i'm still here in London living with my mother; if it wasn't for discovering zetatalk, i would have moved back to toronto by now
[10:27] <QueenVee> yes, it's difficult to convince people
[10:27] <QueenVee> not that i've tried
[10:28] <QueenVee> frankly, i don't know how people COULD be convinced if they don't have the research and experience background that i have.... so....
[10:28] <MaxS> True, otherwise it seems strange.
[10:28] <QueenVee> i wish i could just do a vulcan mind-meld
[10:29] <MaxS> lol
[10:30] <QueenVee> my mother is completely recovered from her illness now, and in very good health for her age (65)
[10:30] <MaxS> What was wrong?
[10:30] <QueenVee> until recently i always assumed that she would not be a survival candidate, so to speak
[10:30] <QueenVee> she had a spot on her lung, but she's cancer-free now
[10:30] <MaxS> That's great.
[10:31] <QueenVee> but lately we've been talking a lot about her life growing up on the farm.... and i think she would be a great asset in the aftertime
[10:31] <MaxS> Very true
[10:31] <QueenVee> but i don't think she would consciously CHOOSE such an existance
[10:32] <QueenVee> she's spent her whole life distancing herself from that life, being a "glamour girl", very fastidious about her surroundings, etc
[10:33] <QueenVee> lately i've untuitively felt that she has might have some karma to work out in the aftertime
[10:33] <MaxS> Interesting
[10:33] <QueenVee> she's been a very self-absorbed and selfish person for most of her life, i can see something like this being the big wake-up call that turns her more STO.
[10:34] <QueenVee> just speculation
[10:34] <MaxS> From the distance she put between herself and her previous lifestyle, I'd say that's a very astute observation.
[10:35] <QueenVee> my mother and i were estranged for 10 years before i moved to London to take care of her....
[10:35] <MaxS> Why was that?
[10:36] <QueenVee> i've been strongly connected to my maternal grandmother all my life, who raised me in my early life; she died a couple of years before that, and i felt very much PUSHED by her to get back in touch with my mother
[10:36] <QueenVee> why?
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[10:37] <QueenVee> oh, dear. i bored the poor man to death.
[10:37] * Ralf is back: ! (gone!15h 54m 38s) : os-2/bx
[10:38] * QueenVee hums a little tune, while she waits to see if MaxS will reconnect....
[10:38] <tex-at-work> you could dance too
[10:39] <QueenVee> i could....
[10:39] <QueenVee> but i'm too lazy....
[10:39] <tex-at-work> you are far from being lazy
[10:39] <QueenVee> lol
[10:39] <QueenVee> you have no idea
[10:40] <QueenVee> my efficiency derives from laziness -- i like to do as little as possible...
[10:44] <QueenVee> tex: someone gave me a great link yesterday, for survivalism info and supplies: http://theepicenter.com/
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[10:44] <QueenVee> hi obany
[10:44] <tex-at-work> i saw that link and saved it
[10:45] <obany> hi Queenve
[10:45] <obany> e
[10:45] <obany> back in a moment
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[10:52] <QueenVee> well, i've got to get some work done. see ya'll later.
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[10:52] <tex-at-work> bye
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[11:00] <RNTHOMAS> QV: are you still in front of the keyboard?
[11:00] <RNTHOMAS> Oops. Guess not...
[11:01] <RNTHOMAS> I'll catch U l8r when U R not busy..
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[11:34] <insiderevolution> hello!
[11:35] <RNTHOMAS> Hello insider, how goes it.
[11:35] <insiderevolution> :)
[11:35] <insiderevolution> Where are you?
[11:35] <insiderevolution> Hungary here
[11:35] <RNTHOMAS> BC Canada...
[11:35] <RNTHOMAS> Wow, that's some ways away...
[11:36] <insiderevolution> safe place :)
[11:36] <insiderevolution> will be good warm place after poleshift :)
[11:36] <RNTHOMAS> I am not sure... I'd have to check the maps...
[11:36] <insiderevolution> all my life I wanted to live warmer place :)
[11:36] <insiderevolution> I checked maps
[11:36] <RNTHOMAS> That's kinda what I got here... Vancouve Island... Bad place during the shift, but after it will be quite nice.
[11:37] <insiderevolution> you can come here at shift time
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[11:37] <insiderevolution> hello bensigel
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[11:37] <RNTHOMAS> Well, it's a pretty long walk to get there..
[11:37] <bensigel> hello
[11:37] <QueenVee> hello bensigel -- what brings you to this room?
[11:37] <insiderevolution> szia
[11:37] <RNTHOMAS> And I don't have a very good pair of Jesus Boots...
[11:37] <bensigel> zetatalk
[11:37] <insiderevolution> viva magyarország :)
[11:38] <QueenVee> bensigel: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[11:38] <bensigel> hello insiderevolution
[11:38] <bensigel> one year
[11:38] <bensigel> about...
[11:38] <insiderevolution> jol müködik axelero?
[11:38] <bensigel> aha
[11:38] <bensigel> te honnan vagy ?
[11:38] <insiderevolution> kecskemét
[11:38] <bensigel> és a ttx neved ?
[11:39] <insiderevolution> fibernet cable
[11:39] <insiderevolution> attila turzo
[11:39] <QueenVee> bensigel: are you in Hungary as well?
[11:39] <bensigel> yes, I'am
[11:39] <bensigel> and you ?
[11:39] <QueenVee> canada
[11:39] <RNTHOMAS> Canada here too.
[11:39] <insiderevolution> how possible only few people here?
[11:39] <insiderevolution> people not care about shift?
[11:39] <bensigel> a többiek nem jönnek ?
[11:39] <QueenVee> insiderevolution & bensigel: what are you doing to prepare for the poleshift?
[11:40] <insiderevolution> I concentrate more to inside revolution
[11:40] <QueenVee> inside: they don't know or don't believe
[11:40] <insiderevolution> I learn in a spiritual school
[11:40] <QueenVee> uh huh, but you must physically prepare as well
[11:40] <insiderevolution> where big changes was announced about 50 years ago
[11:41] <insiderevolution> I am thinking about
[11:41] <insiderevolution> I want to buy something for money
[11:41] <insiderevolution> which will be valuable
[11:41] <QueenVee> bensigel: are you preparing for the poleshift?
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[11:42] <bensigel> yes
[11:42] <insiderevolution> I think important to sell house and car
[11:42] <insiderevolution> and all big things which will damaged
[11:42] <QueenVee> bensigel: how are you preparing?
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[11:43] <Lightspeed> Hello everybody!
[11:43] <QueenVee> hi Lightspeed
[11:43] <insiderevolution> Szia fénysebesség! :)
[11:43] <QueenVee> Lightspeed, we have two people from Hungary here...
[11:44] <QueenVee> insiderevolution & bensigel
[11:44] <insiderevolution> He is also from hungary :)
[11:44] <bensigel> searched a safe place
[11:44] <Lightspeed> I know, this is why I am here, too.
[11:44] <QueenVee> well, that's great
[11:44] <QueenVee> please feel free to talk in your own language, if you are more comfortable....
[11:44] <Lightspeed> I have got mailed the info from the tthungary list.
[11:45] <insiderevolution> hányan vannak a magyar listán?
[11:45] <insiderevolution> How many people is on hungarian list?
[11:45] <bensigel> 45 en
[11:45] <Lightspeed> Még egyszer üdv, ezúttal külön a magyaroknak.
[11:46] <Lightspeed> Vagyunk már egy 40-50-en.
[11:46] <QueenVee> insiderevolution & bensigel: we will be setting up a section on our website soon (http://shift2003.kgmweb.com), where you can meet up with others in your area; if you would like us to send information to you about that, just give me your email address on a private channel
[11:46] <insiderevolution> érdekes
[11:47] <insiderevolution> 10 milliobol
[11:47] <insiderevolution> csak 40-50
[11:47] <Lightspeed> Kezdetnek nem rosz :)
[11:47] <bensigel> OK
[11:47] <bensigel> szerintem az az érdekes, hogy ilyen sokan összejöttünk
[11:48] <bensigel> az elején csak longint volt, jimmy, meg én
[11:48] <bensigel> nem gondoltam volna, hogy 10 embernél többen fogják ezt olvasni
[11:49] <Lightspeed> Infó: Most fordítom a túlélő könyvecske negyedik részét, a harmadikat Jimmy csinálja.
[11:49] <bensigel> DE egyiket sem lehet letöltnei
[11:49] <bensigel> miért ?
[11:49] <Lightspeed> Ebben nem én vagyok az illetékes.
[11:49] <bensigel> QueenVeen: Sorry, but, I can't speak english too much...
[11:50] <bensigel> te pdf formátumot használsz ?
[11:50] <QueenVee> bensigel: that's OK
[11:50] <bensigel> akkor a Longintet kérdezzem ???
[11:50] <insiderevolution> elküldtem az url-t
[11:50] <insiderevolution> ahol le lehet tölteni
[11:50] <insiderevolution> acrobatot
[11:51] <insiderevolution> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
[11:51] <bensigel> nem az acrobat-tal van a gond
[11:51] <bensigel> hanem a link hibás
[11:51] <Lightspeed> Queen! the yahoo link with Steeve's pics is very slow. We tried to use download accelerator, and it turned out, there are too many dropped packages. Maybe it is only the yahhoo's system error, but who knows? It would be better to find a faster free website for steve.
[11:52] <Lightspeed> Jaja, longit vagy Jimmy biztos többet tud mondani.
[11:52] <QueenVee> there's a new dowload location... hold on and i'll get you the link....
[11:52] <Lightspeed> És Acrobatot használok én is.
[11:54] <QueenVee> brb, i have to quit for a few minutes to get it
[11:54] <bensigel> és mikorra lesz meg a 4. rész ?
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[11:54] <bensigel> kb ?
[11:54] <Lightspeed> Pár nap.
[11:55] <bensigel> szóval te küldöd longintnek és ő rakja fel a honlapra ?
[11:56] <Lightspeed> Szóval az angolul nemigazán tudóknak: Steeve megint produkált pár képet, de az a fránya yahhoo baromira lassssú. Queen most fog küldeni egy új linket a képekkel.
[11:56] <Lightspeed> Nem, én Jimmy barátunknak küldöm.
[11:57] <insiderevolution> magyarországon ujságba jelent már meg zetatalk?
[11:57] <insiderevolution> el küldhetnénk linket napilapoknak?
[11:57] <Lightspeed> Nem tudok róla.
[11:57] <bensigel> már megtörtént
[11:57] <bensigel> longint küldött az ufomagazinba
[11:57] <insiderevolution> hol, mikor?
[11:57] <bensigel> meg pár helyre
[11:57] <insiderevolution> megjelent?
[11:57] <Lightspeed> És mi lett a reakció?
[11:58] <bensigel> nem hiszem
[11:58] <bensigel> nem érdekelte őket
[11:58] <Lightspeed> Ez még a jobbik eset.
[11:58] <Lightspeed> Legalább nem hülyézték le sok ember előtt.
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[11:59] <QueenVee> okay, here's a better site that you can download the fits files from: http://www.troubled-times.com/fits
[11:59] <insiderevolution> tényleg?
[11:59] <insiderevolution> ennyire elutasítok?
[11:59] <insiderevolution> butaság :)
[12:00] <bensigel> sok embernek elég, ha látja az ufofejet az oldal elején és már el sem ovassa
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[12:00] <insiderevolution> How many members in Canada about zatatalk?
[12:00] <insiderevolution> Az ICQ számom 177881340
[12:00] <bensigel> én azt szoktam csinálni, hogy érdekes témákból kiollózok és azokat küldöm/mondom el
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[12:01] <insiderevolution> a mostani eset egy szerencsés
[12:02] <QueenVee> there are about 25 people in this group who live in canada
[12:02] <insiderevolution> most 7 héttel elotte láthatják a hitetlenek is
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[12:02] <insiderevolution> only 25?
[12:02] <insiderevolution> so maybe only 1000 all over the world?
[12:02] <alex2221> QueenVee: have u seen any1 from israel besides weinstein and me ?
[12:02] <QueenVee> 175 members of this group all over the world
[12:02] <alex2221> here
[12:03] <alex2221> in this room
[12:03] <insiderevolution> Queen how possible?
[12:03] <QueenVee> not yet, alex
[12:03] <insiderevolution> everybody so silly?
[12:03] <alex2221> what qroup?
[12:03] <alex2221> what r u talking about?
[12:04] <QueenVee> this chat group: the SHIFT2003 Chat Group
[12:04] <QueenVee> people who come to this room
[12:04] <alex2221> oh
[12:04] <alex2221> have u seen any1 from any arab nation ?
[12:05] <bensigel> megnéztem a képeket, melyik közülük a bejelölt ???
[12:05] <bensigel> mert számomra kivehetetlen a Niburu
[12:05] <QueenVee> no; the internet is very censored in arab nations
[12:05] <Ralf> depends on what arab nations.
[12:06] <Ralf> this network doesn't have a very large arab userbase
[12:07] <bensigel> ti megnéztétek már a fit-s, vagy bmp fileokat ???
[12:07] <Lightspeed> Még csak most fogom.
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[12:08] <QueenVee> here about arab access: http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx240.htm
[12:08] <Lightspeed> Igazán jól kivehető Nancyék szerint majd karácsonkor lesz.
[12:08] <QueenVee> hello baba -- what brings you to this site?
[12:08] <baba> hello
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[12:08] <QueenVee> you are in hugary as well?
[12:08] <insiderevolution> szia baba :))
[12:08] <Lightspeed> Szia Baba!
[12:09] <baba> csak magyarul tudok sajnos:))))
[12:09] <bensigel> Nem baj baba :)
[12:09] <Lightspeed> Majd fordítunk
[12:09] <bensigel> te ki vagy, amúgy a ttx listáról ?
[12:09] <baba> igen
[12:09] <insiderevolution> attila turzo
[12:09] <QueenVee> baba: i'm here if you want to ask any questions, but feel free to talk to your countrymen in Hungarian....
[12:10] <baba> szabo gabi
[12:10] <bensigel> OK
[12:10] <Lightspeed> Sümegi Tamás
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[12:10] <bensigel> Jimmy Hoffa :)
[12:10] <baba> sziasztok nagyon örülök szivemből:)))
[12:11] <bensigel> és hiszel már a zetatalk-ban ?
[12:11] <alex2221> what is this launguage?
[12:11] <Ralf> alex2221: hungarian.
[12:11] <Lightspeed> Hungarian
[12:11] <bensigel> vagy még inkébb szkeptikus vagy ?
[12:11] <insiderevolution> Hungarian is world language :)
[12:12] <insiderevolution> Ede Teller said
[12:12] <Lightspeed> :)
[12:12] <bensigel> :)
[12:12] <insiderevolution> in every scientist group :)
[12:12] <insiderevolution> like here also hungarians :)
[12:12] <Lightspeed> Almost at every corner of the world you can find Hungarians...
[12:12] <bensigel> baba: mi van veled ?
[12:12] <bensigel> tőled kérdeztem ám :)
[12:13] <baba> igen
[12:13] <baba> irom
[12:13] <bensigel> OK
[12:13] <baba> jól vagyok
[12:13] <baba> figyelwk
[12:13] <baba> amit tudok fordítom magamnak
[12:13] <bensigel> szóval te szoktál a szkeptikus lenni nem ?
[12:14] <baba> én nem !!!!
[12:14] <baba> soha
[12:14] <bensigel> ja bocsi, az a Luca
[12:14] <bensigel> :)
[12:14] <bensigel> figyeljetek: én nem egészen értem a zetai másokat szolgálást...
[12:14] <baba> én keveset írok a listára:)
[12:15] <baba> a földieket érted?
[12:15] <bensigel> mert az földi emberek akkor is törődnek a másikkal, ha az önmagát szolgálja
[12:16] <bensigel> az zéták meg csak a STO-kkal foglalkoznak
[12:16] <bensigel> akkor nem is igazán másokat szolgálók nem ???
[12:16] <Lightspeed> Másokat szolgáló, magyarul: önzetlen. Önmagát szolgáló: önző.
[12:16] <bensigel> vagyis szelektíven szolgálják másokat
[12:16] <baba> másokat szolgálás odaadni az életed másokért, ez a végső formája:)
[12:16] <alex2221> QueenVee: what music r u listen to?
[12:17] <bensigel> nem a fogalmakat nem értem....
[12:17] <baba> tudom:)
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[12:17] <bensigel> hanem végigolvasva a zetatalkot, nem passzol a másokat szolgálni fogalom
[12:17] <QueenVee> alex: right now i'm listening to Peggy Lee's greatest hits
[12:17] <QueenVee> hi raincity
[12:17] <Lightspeed> Miért nem?
[12:17] <raincity> hi
[12:17] <Lightspeed> Hi!
[12:17] <Ralf> my taste is slightly more modern. :-p
[12:17] <QueenVee> we are having a meeting of Hungarian Poleshifters here
[12:18] <QueenVee> Ralf: my taste is wide-ranging
[12:18] <Ralf> *nod*
[12:18] <bensigel> figyi ez zelai szemszögből olyan, hogy én segítek a másikon, ha az jó ember...
[12:18] <Ralf> as is mine
[12:18] <bensigel> hát milyen dolog ez :) ?
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[12:18] <QueenVee> raincity: how are things in seattle?
[12:18] <bensigel> csak akkor segítek másokon, ha ő is másokat szolgáló ?
[12:18] <baba> rosszakon is segít nem válogat:)
[12:18] <Ralf> my playlist includes stevie ray vaughan, frank sinatra, luniz, snoop dogg, disturbed, van halen, and everything between. :-p
[12:18] <Ralf> etta james
[12:19] <baba> gondolkodás nélkül
[12:19] <Lightspeed> Az igazán önzetlen mindenkin segít.
[12:19] <bensigel> de most komolyan
[12:19] <QueenVee> ETTA JAMES ROCKS!!!!!
[12:19] <QueenVee> i've seen her perform so many times, i have ALL her music
[12:19] <raincity> QueenVee: I've been busy at work. Special project.
[12:19] <baba> Light is írja, komolyan
[12:19] <bensigel> én is ezt mondom, de a zéták nem segítenek pl. olyan közösségnek az újidőben ahol a másokat szolgálók vannak többségben
[12:19] <QueenVee> raincity: top secret?
[12:19] <bensigel> bocsi rosszul írtam
[12:20] <raincity> No. Just an editing job.
[12:20] <QueenVee> Ralf: wasn't Celine Dion's remake of AT LAST the worst thing you've ever heard?
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[12:20] <bensigel> én is ezt mondom, de a zéták nem segítenek pl. olyan közösségnek az újidőben ahol a ÖNMAGUKAT szolgálók vannak többségben
[12:20] <baba> ne várj segítséget, csak csináld a dolgodat:)
[12:20] <QueenVee> hi zetapal
[12:20] <Zetapal> hey hey
[12:20] <QueenVee> we have three hungarians here right now
[12:20] <Lightspeed> Hi Zetapal
[12:20] <baba> ahol önmagukat szolgáló a többség
[12:20] <Zetapal> Hi Lite
[12:21] <baba> az elkerülendő hidd el
[12:21] <Zetapal> . ~~* .o O
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[12:21] <bensigel> de abban a csoportban is lehetnek "rendes emberek" nem
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[12:21] <bensigel> ?
[12:21] <baba> kicsinálnak és kész
[12:21] <baba> mostani fogalmaink szerint
[12:22] <baba> vahy akkor majd?
[12:22] <baba> vagy
[12:22] <bensigel> ok de most én nem erre akarok kilyukadni
[12:22] <baba> ne a mostból indulj ki
[12:22] <baba> :) mondd hallgatom
[12:23] <bensigel> nem ismeritek a PanTalkot ?
[12:23] <insiderevolution> de
[12:23] <insiderevolution> hasonlo mint ez
[12:23] <insiderevolution> vagy ICQ
[12:23] <insiderevolution> MSN
[12:23] <bensigel> az sokkal jobb, mert írás nélkül beszélhetnénk mikrofonon keresztül
[12:23] <insiderevolution> yahoo messenger
[12:23] <insiderevolution> tényleg
[12:23] <insiderevolution> mint a yahoo
[12:23] <insiderevolution> vagy MSN
[12:23] <insiderevolution> mikrofonnal
[12:24] <bensigel> de a PanTalk a leggyorsabb ezek közül és mindig van szabad kapacitása
[12:24] <QueenVee> zetapal: did you see those articles on the TT listserve about that huge outbreak of staph infection in a marine corps in San Diego? one guy died....
[12:24] <baba> jó lenne
[12:24] <bensigel> az MSN kész rémálom
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[12:24] <Ralf> QueenVee: i'm not a big fan of celine dion to begin with
[12:25] <Ralf> her style is kinda whiney
[12:25] <QueenVee> ralf: you and me both
[12:25] <Lightspeed> I don't like Celin's music, too.
[12:25] <Ralf> her music would be good
[12:25] <Ralf> if someone else sang it.
[12:25] <QueenVee> i almost sent her hate mail when she butchered Etta's song
[12:25] <Lightspeed> Yes.
[12:25] <Ralf> her voice is just annoying.
[12:25] <Ralf> :-p
[12:25] <bensigel> ezek az amerikaika nem semmi emberek, zenéről beszélgetnek, amikor mi itt komoly dolgkat vitatunk meg
[12:26] <Lightspeed> És én belekotyogok a beszélgetésükbe...
[12:26] <bensigel> longint szerint érettebb lelkek vannak ott :)
[12:26] <baba> ez az elhárítás módszere
[12:26] <Ralf> UGH
[12:26] <Ralf> i hate mp3s that cut off
[12:26] <bensigel> hát nem hinném
[12:26] <Ralf> :-(
[12:26] <bensigel> vagy már átrágták ezeket a témákat
[12:26] <Ralf> especially really cool live bootlegs :-(
[12:27] <bensigel> szóval összesen 173 ember ismeri a zetatalkot ?
[12:27] <bensigel> jól értettem az előbb ?
[12:27] <Lightspeed> Hagynak minket beszélgetni, nincs most különösebb témájuk.
[12:27] <baba> Zetatalkot lehet,
[12:27] <baba> de a rossz idők
[12:28] <baba> eljövetelét sokan
[12:28] <Lightspeed> De ha van kérdésed, itt felteheted. Majd mi ferdítünk :)
[12:28] <baba> érzik, és halottak róla
[12:29] <baba> Igaz e a májusi dátum? ennyi
[12:29] <bensigel> tehát mégis csak te vagy a hitetlenkedő :)
[12:30] <insiderevolution> itt van luca! :)
[12:30] <baba> Nem
[12:30] <insiderevolution> az ICQ-rol írom az uzeneteit
[12:30] <baba> vagyok Luca
[12:30] <Lightspeed> Nem a dátum a lényeg, hanem az, hogy az emberiségnek meg KELL változnia, mert ahogy élünk, az nem mehet így tovább.
[12:30] <bensigel> szia Luca
[12:31] <Lightspeed> Szia Luca!
[12:31] <baba> nem vagyok luca
[12:31] <insiderevolution> <Lightspeed> Szia Luca!
[12:31] <bensigel> ha olvastátok longint utolsó fordításati, ott leírják, hogy a földnek amúgy már csak kb 100 éve lenne hátra
[12:31] <Zetapal> So is there a plug-in to translate Hungarian ? :)
[12:31] <insiderevolution> Szia, helló, szégyellem magam, hogy Attilának kell közvetitenie
[12:31] <Ralf> no
[12:32] <Ralf> but i have a hungarian ex
[12:32] <Ralf> so if i wanna know what they're saying
[12:32] <Ralf> i can have it translated. :-p
[12:32] <Lightspeed> Maybe I can be a translation plugin for you, Zetapal.
[12:33] <bensigel> látjátok milyen jó lenne magyarul beszélni :))))))))9
[12:33] <Lightspeed> :)
[12:33] <insiderevolution> luca (09:32 PM) :
[12:33] <insiderevolution> nem olvastam, mert nem volt acrobatom, ha ez a legojabbakból való.. hogyhogy csak 100 év?
[12:33] <bensigel> így jár az aki csak angolul tud
[12:33] <QueenVee> zetapal: are you familiar with the POLESHIFT NEWS site, that recently stopped posting?
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[12:33] <insiderevolution> luca (09:33 PM) :
[12:33] <insiderevolution> na de ha a másokat szolgálóknak a harmadik denzitású rezervátuma lesz, akkor kell még léteznie, nem?
[12:34] <Zetapal> how many languages do you speak Lightspeed ?
[12:34] <juditness> insiderevolution: tudsz angolul?
[12:34] <QueenVee> well, juditness, to what do we owe this pleasure?
[12:34] <juditness> QueenVee: i am here with the intention of helping you.
[12:34] <juditness> maybe.
[12:34] <QueenVee> juditness: i'm not having a problem here
[12:34] <Lightspeed> Only 3, including my own.
[12:34] <QueenVee> they have my permission to speak hungarian to each other
[12:34] <bensigel> nem lessz a 3. denzitásban tovább élet az átalakulás után
[12:34] <juditness> ah
[12:34] <juditness> ok
[12:34] <Ralf> i was just curious
[12:34] <QueenVee> but thanks anyway
[12:34] <Ralf> and wanted a translation
[12:34] <Ralf> :-p
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[12:35] <bensigel> Így már nem tudom mit írtam:)
[12:35] <bensigel> szóval am
[12:35] <insiderevolution> lesz élet egy kis ideig
[12:35] <QueenVee> Ralf: oh, that's ok -- i thought she was going to try and stop them from speaking hungarian
[12:35] <bensigel> szóval amúgy is csak 100 év lenne hátra ez a lényeg
[12:35] <Ralf> no no
[12:35] <QueenVee> hi tied
[12:35] <insiderevolution> luca (09:35 PM) :
[12:35] <insiderevolution> de azt mondta a zt, hogy a maguk választotta eroszakos életet élhetik itt.
[12:35] <tied2> «««««««««««« Hello QueenVee »»»»»»»»»»»»
[12:36] <QueenVee> tied: we have four hungarian poleshifters here today, hence the proliferation of hungarian posts
[12:36] <tied2> oh
[12:36] <bensigel> ok de én az újidőről beszélek
[12:36] <bensigel> ez egy új menüpont a zetatalkon
[12:36] <QueenVee> tied: there was no one here and it was very quiet when they first started.....
[12:37] <bensigel> amikor már átbillent a föld a 4. denzitásba
[12:37] <Zetapal> Ralf can I send you a pic ? funny
[12:37] <QueenVee> LIGHTSPEED: Can I talk to you for a minute?
[12:37] <Ralf> sure, but you won't be able to dcc
[12:37] <Zetapal> no?
[12:37] <Ralf> ··· BitchX: [ralf!ralf@nuke.dev.kgmweb.com]: nuke.dev.kgmweb.com
[12:37] <Ralf> ··· BitchX: IPs: [10.0.1.2]
[12:37] <Ralf> how can you dcc to a non-routable IP ?
[12:37] <Ralf> :-p
[12:38] <Zetapal> I see
[12:38] <Ralf> send it via email, jrl@hsds.net
[12:38] <insiderevolution> luca (09:37 PM) :
[12:38] <insiderevolution> lesz 2 föld? egy 4. meg egy 3. denzitású?....
[12:38] <Zetapal> ok
[12:38] <baba> igen
[12:38] <bensigel> ez a teljes fordítás:
[12:39] <Lightspeed> Baba, BenSigel, Insiderevolution: QueenVee kérdezi az e-mail címeteket, hogy felvehessen a listájára. Így később könnyebben tud majd nekünk segíteni.
[12:39] <bensigel> bensigel@axelero.hu
[12:39] <baba> gabiszabo@mailbox.hu
[12:40] <QueenVee> thanks bensigel
[12:40] <QueenVee> thanks baba
[12:40] <bensigel> thanks QueenVee :)
[12:40] <bensigel> are you women ?
[12:40] <baba> thanks:))
[12:40] <QueenVee> i am woman, hear me roar
[12:40] <insiderevolution> parsifal@westel900.net
[12:41] <QueenVee> thanks inside!
[12:41] <insiderevolution> at your service lady! :)
[12:41] <bensigel> mit jelent a hear me roar ?
[12:41] <juditness> halld az uvoltesem. :]
[12:42] <bensigel> ok
[12:42] <bensigel> juditness: te ki vagy ?
[12:42] <QueenVee> it's from a song, bensigel
[12:42] <bensigel> észre sem vettelek
[12:42] <juditness> bensigel: en az vagyok aki akart segiteni forditani, de aztan kiderult, hogy nincs ra szukseg. =)
[12:43] <insiderevolution> mindenkire szükség van! :)
[12:43] <QueenVee> i have to go for a bit. see you all later.
[12:43] <insiderevolution> luca (09:42 PM) :
[12:43] <insiderevolution> lucaa@mailbox.hu
[12:43] <bensigel> judit és te a magyar listáról vagy ?
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[12:43] <juditness> bensigel: en nem tartozom ide... csak az irc network egyik csapattagja vagyok. :)
[12:44] <baba> én a korrektúrára vállalkoztam:)
[12:44] <insiderevolution> 25% from Hungary :)
[12:44] <bensigel> és amúgy honnan vagy ?
[12:44] <juditness> bp
[12:44] <juditness> =)
[12:44] <Lightspeed> Székesfehérvár
[12:44] <Kindred> Greatings citizens of Earth
[12:44] <juditness> ooo fehervar. :)
[12:44] <juditness> oda jartam suliba =x
[12:45] <Lightspeed> Melyikbe?
[12:45] <bensigel> amúgy az új fordításban rendkívül ízletes receptek vannak a bogárevéssel kapcsolatban...
[12:45] <bensigel> :)
[12:45] <Lightspeed> :O
[12:45] <Kindred> parlez vous de Englais
[12:46] <baba> jó lesz az
[12:46] <juditness> Lightspeed: kodo
[12:46] <juditness> =)
[12:46] <insiderevolution> vegetáriánus vagyok :)
[12:46] <Lightspeed> És jó volt?
[12:46] <Kindred> :-P
[12:46] <insiderevolution> mi?
[12:46] <Lightspeed> Mármint Juditnak a suli. :)))
[12:47] <bensigel> még van egy kérdésem
[12:47] <juditness> nagyon :D
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[12:47] <bensigel> miért tudat alatt szavaztatott minket a Világok Tanácsa ?
[12:47] <Lightspeed> CSak egy?
[12:47] <Lightspeed> Mert tudat alatt nem lehet hazudni.
[12:47] <baba> Tudatosan nem mondanánk igazat:))
[12:48] <bensigel> de én álmonban össze vissza beszélek :)
[12:49] <bensigel> még van egy érdekes dolog a Bush kormánnyal kapcsolatban
[12:49] <baba> leht hogy igazat mondod:)
[12:49] <bensigel> ha akarjátok beszűrom ide
[12:49] <baba> jó
[12:52] <bensigel> Az öreg Bush és az önmagukat-szolgáló tanácsadói aligha hallgattak bármilyen tanácsra, amiket mi adtunk, és így figyelembe nem véve, kifelejtették, hogy nyugtalankodjanak a Texasban várható áradás következtében, mely elárasztódik majd egy árhullámmal. Így, a börtönökbe bezárt fegyencek megfulladnak, az elmenekülők pedig valószínű, hogy ugyanígy végzik, kivéve azt a néhányat, akik elázott patkányokként partra másznak, magán
[12:52] <bensigel> All rights reserved: ZetaTalk@ZetaTalk.com
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[12:52] <bensigel> mennem kell
[12:52] <bensigel> sziasztok
[12:52] <bensigel> mikor lesztek legközelebb ?
[12:52] <baba> hello szia
[12:53] <bensigel> na mindegy írjatok, akkor
[12:53] <WG> hello folks!
[12:53] <baba> majd benézek
[12:53] <bensigel> bensigel@axelero.hu
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[12:53] <juditness> =x
[12:54] <WG> does anyone speak English here??
[12:54] <insiderevolution> yep
[12:55] <WG> may also be Portuguese or Spanish ...
[12:55] <insiderevolution> no :)
[12:55] <insiderevolution> hungarian or english
[12:55] <baba> Sziasztok mennem kell:)
[12:55] <insiderevolution> szia baba! :)
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[12:56] <Lightspeed> hungarian, english, german
[12:57] <WG> oh, we should stick to a single language, otherwise we are going to have a sort of web-version of the Babel Tower ...
[12:57] <Lightspeed> Steeve képeit még fel kell dolgozni, amik kint vannak, azok csak a nyers felvételek.
[12:57] <Lightspeed> WG: this evening is an exception.
[12:58] <tex-at-work> yes WG Lightspeed is correct
[12:58] <Lightspeed> Szóval a képeken elég nehéz lesz megtalálni még a nibirut
[12:59] <WG> OK folks, since this seems to be a private chat, I will try another day
[12:59] <Lightspeed> WG: we used to discuss on a mail-list, but that is slow.
[13:00] <Lightspeed> This chat is not private
[13:01] <WG> yes, but I still have to learn Hungarian and/or German ... does anyone still reads the messages from tt-news??
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[13:01] <Lightspeed> What are the news?
[13:02] <WG> this is the problem: no news ...
[13:02] <tex-at-work> http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/index.php
[13:03] <tex-at-work> WG this is our new website... please check it out
[13:03] <tex-at-work> lots of news
[13:04] <WG> hey, I just joined this chatroom because of that web site, that I just heard of today ...
[13:04] <tex-at-work> we are glad ot have you
[13:04] <tex-at-work> what part of the world are you from
[13:04] <WG> I will check it carefully, but it seems that the Nibiru is a bit slow ...
[13:04] <WG> I am from Brazil
[13:04] <tex-at-work> how long have you been aware of the poleshift
[13:05] <WG> well, I am fond to prophecies since I was a teen (now I am 46) but found Zetatalk by mid-1998 and have been following the messages since then
[13:06] <tex-at-work> that is very good
[13:06] <Lightspeed> Ok folks, I have lo leave now. I need to translate the survival booklet part4 into Hungarian.
[13:06] <Lightspeed> Bye
[13:06] <tex-at-work> most everyone is away right now or as myself at work
[13:06] <tex-at-work> bye
[13:06] <Lightspeed> Sziasztok, mennem kell, mert különben nem lesz kész a túlélőkönyv 4 részének fordítása
[13:07] <WG> I am leaving as well (take shower and then supper). See you all later!
[13:07] <Lightspeed> Jó éjjt!
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[13:07] <insiderevolution> köszi a munkád! :)
[13:07] <insiderevolution> szia!
[13:07] <Lightspeed> Good Night!
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[13:07] <tex-at-work> thanks for coming by... come again
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[13:09] <alex> hi all
[13:10] <insiderevolution> hey
[13:10] <insiderevolution> alex!!
[13:10] <insiderevolution> brasil?
[13:10] <alex> yes!
[13:10] <alex> =)
[13:11] <alex> insiderevolution you hungary
[13:11] <alex> ?
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[13:30] <Queen-away> hello leslie
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[13:31] <QueenVee> LESLIE? ARE YOU THERE?
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[13:34] <HelloIamLeslie> hi
[13:34] <QueenVee> Hi Leslie
[13:34] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room?
[13:34] <HelloIamLeslie> Vannak itt magyarok?
[13:35] <QueenVee> you are Hungarian?
[13:35] <HelloIamLeslie> Yes
[13:35] <QueenVee> speak English?
[13:35] <HelloIamLeslie> Little
[13:35] <QueenVee> insiderevolution is Hungarian
[13:36] <QueenVee> but i don't know if he is here
[13:37] <HelloIamLeslie> sorry I don't understand
[13:38] <QueenVee> http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[13:39] <HelloIamLeslie> What is this address ?
[13:40] <QueenVee> http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~jurian/chat/big.html
[13:59] <HelloIamLeslie> Good bye and Merry christmas
[13:59] <QueenVee> good bye
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[14:04] <obaway> hi
[14:05] <obaway> back now
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[14:05] <QueenVee> hello obany
[14:05] <obany> hail to the Queen :P
[14:05] <obany> hi QueenVee
[14:05] <QueenVee> very interesting....
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[14:06] <cmell> hi
[14:06] <QueenVee> i just received an email from someone asking if they can participate in this chat room....
[14:06] <QueenVee> and their email address indicates they are in the canadian forces....
[14:06] <cmell> hhmm
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[14:07] <QueenVee> i told her to come on in, do we shall see....
[14:07] <QueenVee> i have to disappear for a bit, be back later
[14:07] <QueenVee> hi madhatter
[14:07] <cmell> later
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[14:07] <Mad_Hatter> Greetings!
[14:08] <cmell> hi hat
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[14:17] <cmell> cold weather on poland huh !
[14:18] <obany> yes
[14:19] <cmell> but 116 dead, hhmm thats must be high :(
[14:20] <insiderevolution> where?
[14:20] <insiderevolution> die?
[14:20] <cmell> Poland
[14:20] <insiderevolution> why?
[14:20] <cmell> freeze
[14:21] <insiderevolution> people hwo did not have house?
[14:22] <cmell> read the top article here : http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[14:28] <cmell> so insiderevolution I can't remember having seen you here, where are you from ? :)
[14:29] <Mad_Hatter> Interesting....I can relate to Poland as I am Polish.....another interesting link: http://www.viewzone.com/origins.html
[14:30] <cmell> ok MH
[14:30] <Mad_Hatter> Better freeze to death (painless) then burn to death.....?
[14:30] <cmell> I guess
[14:31] <cmell> but frostbite is somewhat like burns, that is if you survive :(
[14:32] <Mad_Hatter> Well, on the brighter side...finished ALL my Christmas shopping, spent alot. figure its the last...
[14:32] <cmell> good
[14:32] <cmell> :)
[14:32] <cmell> the main thing is spending time with the family, for better or worse :)
[14:34] <Mad_Hatter> I agree, unfortunately my family is spread apart by many thousands of miles... can't see them all before...
[14:34] <cmell> sorry :(
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[14:38] <cmell> hhmmm mad_hatter it's a long read :)
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[14:55] <monk> hi
[14:55] <cmell> hey
[14:55] <monk> whats up
[14:55] <cmell> it's pretty quiet right now :)
[14:56] <cmell> but take look at this : http://www.viewzone.com/origins.html
[14:56] <cmell> I'm reading it
[14:56] <monk> hey now im not suppose to be looking at that stuff
[14:56] <monk> ahh no ones watching
[14:56] <cmell> ok
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[14:58] <monk> my grandmother is a christian
[14:58] <cmell> oh ok nice :)
[14:58] <cmell> I'm an ateist :)
[15:00] <monk> she tells me you better not bring this stuff into my house
[15:01] <monk> she thinks im all out of it for believe in this kinda stuff
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[15:01] <monk> its raining pretty good here in california
[15:01] <cmell> you have your grandmother standing/sitting there by your side ?
[15:01] <insiderevolution> cool
[15:01] <insiderevolution> will be flloding in Cali?
[15:02] <insiderevolution> did Zeta say about rain in Cali?
[15:02] <cmell> soon it will be cats n' dogs hehe
[15:02] <monk> no
[15:02] <cmell> just kidding
[15:02] <monk> you dont need to be a alein to say theres gonna be rain here in california
[15:03] <monk> its el nino
[15:03] <cmell> yeah perhaps
[15:03] <insiderevolution> I had the idea to move to Cali
[15:03] <insiderevolution> in the last year
[15:03] <cmell> don't
[15:04] <insiderevolution> but There will be flooding
[15:04] <insiderevolution> in May
[15:04] <insiderevolution> and vulcans
[15:04] <insiderevolution> etc
[15:04] <insiderevolution> better to move from there
[15:04] <monk> im gonna be surfing in may
[15:04] <monk> swim to land
[15:04] <insiderevolution> yes, will be good surf time
[15:04] <insiderevolution> good water
[15:04] <monk> big ole waves
[15:04] <insiderevolution> hot red water :)
[15:05] <monk> its gonna be great
[15:05] <cmell> insiderev. look at a tectonic-plate map and relocate to the midst of a plate + high ground !
[15:05] <insiderevolution> Holiwood will make films at home :)
[15:05] <cmell> heh
[15:06] <monk> prettyy windy outside
[15:06] <insiderevolution> Did you sell your house?
[15:06] <monk> streets are running down with water
[15:08] <monk> I was reading a book today and it talked about the poleshift wanna hear what it said ?
[15:09] <Mad_Hatter> What happened to the CA 30 foot waves?
[15:09] <cmell> sure monk !, what ?
[15:09] <monk> ok here it is
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[15:10] <Mad_Hatter> We expect rain tonight in AZ...and we do need it badly
[15:10] <cmell> but then you'll get flash floods
[15:10] <cmell> :(
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[15:11] <cmell> which country is .hu ?
[15:11] <cmell> hi derede
[15:11] <cmell> hungary ?
[15:12] <derede> yes!
[15:12] <monk> "Southwestern native peoples also have prophecies concrning these times" don juan began" The earth will wobble like a top on its acis and the magnetic poles will shift. this happens in cycles. it's transformation. whether were in harmony with the plant or not is of great importance during these times, as is the purpose of every being when the whol of creation begins to spin with the force of this shift"don juans hands mad
[15:12] <cmell> wb derede :)
[15:12] <monk> acis=axis
[15:13] <Mad_Hatter> Monk: Was that quote from Carlos Castanades (sp?)
[15:14] <monk> The book is called Don Juan and the Power of Medicine Dreaming by Merilyn Tunneshende
[15:14] <derede> hu
[15:14] <monk> great book
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[15:14] <Mad_Hatter> Thanks..
[15:15] <monk> Im at the part where they just gathered like a lawn bag full of mushrooms and started cooking them and making them in powder and smoking them
[15:15] <cmell> hhmmm
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[15:15] <monk> they cut themselves at the heart and put the powder in the wound
[15:16] <cmell> wb inside
[15:16] <Mad_Hatter> Yea...Already done the mushrooms.... Alice can cook!
[15:16] <insiderevolution> hey-ho!
[15:16] <cmell> heh mmm mushrooms
[15:16] <monk> she said they must of had 1500 mushrooms
[15:16] <cmell> sorry monk
[15:17] <monk> for 3 people
[15:17] <monk> sorry for what
[15:18] <cmell> interruption
[15:18] <Mad_Hatter> Got to watch what mushrooms ya pick behind in those cow pastures though....some ain't so kind.
[15:18] <insiderevolution> what means mush?
[15:18] <insiderevolution> mush-room?
[15:18] <Mad_Hatter> shroons!
[15:19] <monk> mush ?
[15:19] <insiderevolution> not means anything?
[15:19] <insiderevolution> mush?
[15:20] <cmell> so insiderevolution=derede ? huh
[15:20] <monk> mush[room 7mu*$r1m#, -r-m#8
[15:20] <monk> n.
[15:20] <monk> 5ME muscheron < OFr moisseron < LL mussirio (gen. mussirionis)6
[15:20] <monk> 1 a) any of various rapidly growing, fleshy fungi, typically having a stalk capped with an umbrellalike top; esp., a gill or pore fungus b) the fruiting body of such a fungus c) an edible fruiting body of such a fungus
[15:20] <monk> 2 anything like a mushroom in shape or rapid growth
[15:20] <monk> adj.
[15:20] <monk> 1 of or made with mushrooms
[15:20] <monk> 2 like a mushroom in shape or rapid growth !a mushroom cloud"
[15:20] <monk> vi.
[15:21] <monk> 1 to hunt for and gather wild mushrooms
[15:21] <monk> 2 to grow or spread rapidly
[15:21] <monk> 3 to flatten out at the end so as to resemble a mushroom
[15:21] <monk> fungi
[15:21] <cmell> hhmmm
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[15:21] <insiderevolution> :)
[15:22] <monk> I only tried it once
[15:22] <monk> just hieghten my senses
[15:22] <monk> smoked some weed nothing big
[15:23] <cmell> heh
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[15:25] <Mad_Hatter> Gotta go now ...Alice has my supper ready... we are having steak and mushrooms with betel nut soup...bye...bbl.
[15:25] <monk> later
[15:25] <cmell> later hat
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[15:30] <cmell> zate com ???
[15:30] <insiderevolution> zeta
[15:31] <monk> hmmm
[15:31] <cmell> so zetatalk.com ?
[15:32] <insiderevolution> yes
[15:32] <monk> maybe
[15:32] <cmell> how did you find that site ? by chance or did someone tell
[15:32] <cmell> ?
[15:36] <insiderevolution> Zetas told me
[15:36] <insiderevolution> undermind I guess
[15:36] <cmell> hehe
[15:37] <monk> you talk with the zetas?
[15:37] <cmell> subconcious I guess you mean
[15:37] <cmell> so monk not really
[15:38] <monk> I dont think the zetas told u about it
[15:38] <monk> sub conciously
[15:38] <monk> maybe your higher self
[15:38] <cmell> so monk you say it must have been pure chance !
[15:39] <cmell> I don't think I'm here by pure chance
[15:39] <monk> everything is connected :)
[15:39] <obany> you might have done the call a couple of times, cmell maybe you even did had contact with them who knows
[15:39] <monk> everything has a purpose
[15:40] <cmell> something like it yes
[15:40] <cmell> I don't know obany
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[15:40] <monk> hi hbo
[15:40] <cmell> hey HBO
[15:41] <HBO> 'lo everyone
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[15:41] <monk> what does lo mean
[15:41] <cmell> hey sleth
[15:41] <HBO> as in, hello
[15:41] <monk> ok
[15:41] <HBO> read some postings on Sci.Astro last nite
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[15:41] <sleth> cmell alright and you buddy
[15:42] <cmell> yep , fine
[15:42] <cmell> wb QV
[15:42] <HBO> man, it's hard to believe that those people are supposed to be anywhere near professionals
[15:42] <cmell> who ?
[15:42] <HBO> folks on Sci.Astro
[15:42] <monk> amatuers
[15:42] <cmell> oh the sci.astro
[15:42] <cmell> heh
[15:42] <HBO> professional assholes
[15:42] <cmell> haha
[15:43] <sleth> brb
[15:43] <cmell> like cunningham perhaps ?
[15:43] <HBO> they rape S Havas like he was prom queen or something
[15:43] <QueenVee> HBO: so you've been over at sci.astro, eh?
[15:43] <HBO> read some of the postings last nite, QueenVee
[15:43] <HBO> I do not attemp to post there
[15:43] <QueenVee> such emotionalism over there
[15:44] <QueenVee> not very scientific.....
[15:44] <HBO> it's absurd, the way they go on & on & on
[15:44] <monk> http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&num=25&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=sci.astro&start=50 sci.astro
[15:45] <HBO> like, there were 50-100 snipes at Havas just since Sat
[15:45] <cmell> I just saw a dane in there hhmmm (a debunker)
[15:45] <QueenVee> mais, bien sur
[15:45] <HBO> they need to get a job, or at least a life
[15:46] <QueenVee> or at least get laid
[15:46] <cmell> haha
[15:46] <QueenVee> they still haven't forgiven Steve for taking his girlfriend away on vacation
[15:46] <HBO> I think I saw one from Tholen, or whatever his name is
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[15:47] <QueenVee> hello juditness
[15:47] <juditness> er
[15:47] <juditness> sorry
[15:47] <QueenVee> um
[15:47] <obany> a bunch of wierdos over htere ... Cunningham made a comment on Jeremy also about his weather postings
[15:48] <juditness> i know you don't like that in here
[15:48] <cmell> hello judit n ralf
[15:48] <juditness> so i'll leave
[15:48] <juditness> heya cmell :)
[15:48] <juditness> sorry QueenVee
[15:48] <QueenVee> sokay
[15:48] <juditness> bye..
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[15:49] <HBO> one of the snippets over there was about Jan having disappeared fro TT...is that correct?
[15:49] <HBO> I don't ever read the tt postings
[15:50] <QueenVee> not that i know of, and i read them all the time
[15:50] <QueenVee> obany: are you on the board of tt?
[15:51] <monk> anybody here have pics of the newest pics of planet x?
[15:51] <HBO> still only on yahoo download, I think
[15:52] <QueenVee> they can be downloaded faster from this site now: http://www.troubled-times.com/fits
[15:52] <HBO> QueenVee, how do you get program to open fits files?
[15:52] <obany> QueenVee: yes
[15:52] <QueenVee> HBO: you're asking the wrong person. i still haven't figured it out.
[15:53] <HBO> obany, do you know?
[15:53] <obany> there are some programs yes .. moment
[15:53] <sleth> cmell so whats up
[15:54] <sleth> monk did you talk to syk
[15:54] <cmell> nothin' much :(
[15:54] <obany> http://www.astrosurf.com/buil/us/iris/iris.htm
[15:55] <HBO> obany, how big a system does it take to run them?
[15:55] <monk> yes i did
[15:55] <obany> HBO : i don't know
[15:55] <HBO> I'm still running a baby P2, 260 Mhz
[15:56] <obany> but proccesing them, cominbing them into a median file etc take some power for what i know
[15:56] <sleth> how is he monk
[15:57] <cmell> I'm still waiting for BOINC to come online :)
[15:57] <monk> hes good
[15:58] <sleth> good to hear
[15:58] <HBO> obany, saved the site in favs, will check later and see if I can operate it, thanks
[15:58] <sleth> cmell did you hear about the high winds in Reno Nv, 130 mph
[15:59] <cmell> in Reno Ca ?
[15:59] <HBO> whoa, hold on to your chips
[15:59] <sleth> Reno, Nevada
[16:00] <cmell> oh ok, no :(
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[16:00] <HBO> I was supposed to go to Northern Cal and SW Oregon this month on a survey...sure glad I turned it down
[16:00] <cmell> hey RNT
[16:00] <RNTHOMAS> Hey guys...
[16:00] <sleth> its pretty weird, winds like that in Reno rare
[16:00] <cmell> I guess
[16:00] * Ralf is away: smoke (l/p!on)[jrl@hsds.net] : os-2/bx
[16:01] <monk> well its coming down hard right now high winds
[16:01] <monk> just blew away this lid i had on the cooler
[16:01] <sleth> lol
[16:02] <sleth> monk what do you think the reason is
[16:02] <RNTHOMAS> It's lookin like I'm getting a break in the weather here...
[16:02] <cmell> too much bending over perhaps ***GRIN***
[16:02] <monk> in renco the winds were 82 mph not 150
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[16:02] <sleth> lol
[16:03] <cmell> sorry
[16:03] <monk> err 130
[16:03] <monk> el nino they be saying on the news
[16:03] * Ralf is back: penis feels better now (gone!2m 48s) : os-2/bx
[16:03] <monk> the ocean heating up and causing the weather
[16:03] <cmell> oh ok ralf
[16:03] <sleth> actually, im correct
[16:03] <cmell> hehe
[16:03] <Ralf> my bad, default back message.
[16:04] <sleth> monk 130 in areas and up to 140 at the pass
[16:04] <monk> I just heard on national geographic channel said the highest winds in reno for a long time at 82 mph
[16:04] <sleth> and then died down to 80
[16:04] <cmell> uh
[16:05] <monk> maybe some areas
[16:05] <insiderevolution> will be wind cataclisma in US?
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[16:05] <cmell> like NGC is upt to date :)
[16:05] <sleth> yea who knows
[16:05] <sleth> its all pretty wild
[16:05] <monk> yea maybe 130 mph today
[16:05] <HBO> 130 mph is equal to a Force 2 tornado
[16:06] <monk> I dont know when this show was recorded
[16:06] <sleth> something is going on
[16:06] <HBO> or a small hurricane
[16:06] <sleth> is that right
[16:06] <monk> its el nino
[16:07] <HBO> it's el niburuino
[16:07] <insiderevolution> that will be in the news!
[16:07] <sleth> el nino is no joke
[16:07] <cmell> heh
[16:07] <sleth> lmao
[16:07] <monk> el nino came through california like 4 times past 10 years
[16:08] <monk> I remember seeing on tv storm watch 99
[16:08] <monk> storm watch 98
[16:08] <monk> hehe
[16:08] <sleth> if you try and talk to someone on the streets about px theyll probably refer you to a shrink
[16:08] <monk> storm watch 2002
[16:08] <cmell> storm watch 97
[16:08] <HBO> yes, and its only supposed to be once every 10 years or so
[16:09] <cmell> no it's supposed to be every 6-7 years I've heard ?
[16:09] <monk> no its suppose to be every 3600 years
[16:09] <cmell> hehehe
[16:09] <HBO> whichever, it is definitely on the uprise
[16:09] <sleth> lol
[16:09] <HBO> 3657, be correct monk :))
[16:09] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword10n.htm
[16:09] <sleth> indeed on the uprise
[16:09] <monk> yea whatever
[16:10] <cmell> haha
[16:10] <HBO> but, who's counting?
[16:11] <cmell> hhmmm : 3656.86
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[16:11] <cmell> wb QV
[16:11] <sleth> did you guys hear the threat from iraq
[16:11] <cmell> what threat ?
[16:12] <QueenVee> yeah, what threat?
[16:12] <sleth> if we engage in war our troops will really be in for it
[16:12] <cmell> ahheheheh
[16:12] <obany> cmell: where did you got that numeber 3656.86?
[16:12] <sleth> biological weapons
[16:12] <cmell> just a guess
[16:13] <sleth> meaning sadaam will use force with chemical weapons
[16:13] <HBO> one of the news shows last night had Rumsfeld on, saying "no, Iraq is definitely NOT about oil"..heheheh
[16:13] <cmell> I could have pulled out the calc, but I didn't
[16:13] <cmell> hahahaahahaa HBO
[16:14] <monk> United states could take out iraq so fast
[16:14] <sleth> so he says
[16:14] <monk> using high tech weapons
[16:14] <sleth> we can use a tad bit more oil
[16:14] <sleth> lol
[16:14] <sleth> monk i think its deeper than just taking out iraq
[16:15] <monk> queenvee :http://www.netside.com/~lcoble/dir9/insomnia.txt
[16:16] <monk> http://www.logicsouth.com/%7Elcoble/password/survival.html tons of survival stuff
[16:16] <QueenVee> thanks, monk
[16:17] <monk> np
[16:17] <cmell> yes thx (but had the link allready)
[16:18] <cmell> yesterday I found these
[16:18] <cmell> http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20021215-022858-1323r
[16:19] <cmell> http://www.ledkeychain.homestead.com/Foreverflashlight.html
[16:20] <cmell> I'm going to get one :)
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[16:21] <monk> http://www.ccrane.com/freeplay_plus.asp im gonna get one of these
[16:22] <monk> has short wave radio
[16:22] <monk> http://www.ccrane.com/dynamo_in_radio_windup_index.asp I have 2 of these already
[16:23] <cmell> Yes I saw those too, but I figured light was number one :)
[16:23] <cmell> really monk
[16:24] <cmell> but only recieve
[16:24] <cmell> :(
[16:24] * obany goes now, bye welterusten
[16:24] <cmell> bye
[16:24] <HBO> cmell, that's a neat looking flashlight, wonder how bright the light is?
[16:24] <QueenVee> bye obany
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[16:25] <butch> hello everyone
[16:25] <HBO> mountain man :))
[16:25] <cmell> hey, who cares, in the after time any light is good
[16:25] <cmell> hey
[16:25] <butch> hi HBO
[16:25] <butch> and cmell
[16:25] <obany> hi butch and bye butch
[16:25] <QueenVee> hiya butch
[16:25] <butch> hi QueenVee
[16:25] <butch> bye obany...
[16:26] <HBO> I wonder if those Stirling engine water purifiers are available for sale yet?
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[16:26] <cmell> oh you talk about the inventor of the segway
[16:26] <cmell> nick kamen
[16:26] <HBO> correct
[16:27] <cmell> sorry Nick Kamen
[16:27] <butch> dean kamen has a water purifier out now?
[16:27] <butch> nick?...i thought it was dean
[16:27] <cmell> I don't know but I know it's Kamen
[16:28] <HBO> he's building one for 3rd world countries that utilizes a Stirling engine
[16:28] <butch> yeah...definately know the last name..
[16:28] <butch> oh
[16:28] <cmell> yes
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[16:28] <cmell> hehe
[16:28] <cmell> sorry Kamen
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[16:28] <cmell> that was short
[16:28] <HBO> you know, if it weren't for the oil companies, the Stirling engine would be our power source by now
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[16:29] <cmell> yeah
[16:29] <QueenVee> what does the stirling engine run on?
[16:29] <cmell> heat
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[16:29] <cmell> or heat difference
[16:29] <RNTHOMAS> Temperature diference.
[16:29] <HBO> heat from one side vs. cold from the other side, to drive the piston up and down
[16:29] <butch> was watching a biography of him a while ago...he's bought an island somewhere off the coast of america...around main or some such..and declared himself king...and said he doesn't owe any taxes to the us government...Way to go DEAN!!!!LOL
[16:29] <cmell> heat in one end (fire) and cold in the other
[16:29] <QueenVee> and how are the temperature variations supplied?
[16:29] <cmell> air
[16:30] <butch> main=maine
[16:30] <HBO> by as little as the difference in outside air against the heat of your body
[16:30] <RNTHOMAS> YOu can also use it to cool or heat without fire, if you drive the engine from a water wheel...
[16:31] <cmell> www.stirlingengine.com
[16:31] <HBO> it is simplicity itself, pattented in 1800 something
[16:31] <cmell> by a priest
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[16:31] <cmell> in england
[16:31] <cmell> hey JG
[16:31] <JG> hello all
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[16:32] <cmell> hi sleth, trouble ?
[16:32] <HBO> gotta run now, see you later
[16:32] <sleth> anyone heard of michio kaku
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[16:32] <sleth> cmell lots of it
[16:32] <JG> are the dec 14th images up yet?
[16:33] <RNTHOMAS> Yup...
[16:33] <cmell> RNTHOMAS yes thats the beauty of the machine, if you run it in reverse it's cooling things down :)
[16:33] <JG> whats it look like
[16:33] <sleth> he will be on art bell wed/thur
[16:33] <cmell> who ?
[16:33] <sleth> michio kaku
[16:33] <RNTHOMAS> JG: I am not able to see anything on them... Dunno why, maybe I'm blind..
[16:34] <RNTHOMAS> cmell:- Yup, air conditioner...
[16:34] <cmell> or fridge
[16:35] <monk> the new pics i seen are blury
[16:36] <RNTHOMAS> Methinks air conditioner would be more better...
[16:36] <cmell> I think fridge would be better RNT :) better have foods last longer than be comfortable
[16:37] <RNTHOMAS> monk: I even took all the images, animated them together so they flipped, and could see all stable objects, but couldn't see squat..
[16:37] <cmell> heh
[16:38] <cmell> In hindsight I think the name is Dean Kamen :)
[16:38] <cmell> so butch you'r right
[16:38] <butch> he's definately a self made man...from what i've seen and read..
[16:38] <cmell> yes
[16:39] <butch> kinda like a bill gates , yet not as well known...
[16:39] <cmell> but more engenious
[16:40] <butch> i remember the flap about the 'ginger" before it was unveiled...everyone thought it would be some sort of antigrav device or something..
[16:40] <cmell> I mean a wheelchair that can walk up/down stairs
[16:40] <cmell> yeah butch
[16:40] <cmell> IT
[16:40] <butch> yep
[16:40] <cmell> I would like to try the segway
[16:41] <butch> was quite the disappointment to see it was only a scooter...lol
[16:41] <cmell> haha
[16:41] <butch> hehe
[16:41] <QueenVee> Segway: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00007EPJ6/coolbooks02/104-7544494-6300764
[16:41] <cmell> everybody thought it was the powerunit for the home
[16:41] <butch> kinda like the "meg"...
[16:42] <QueenVee> the water purifier: http://www.cmonitor.com/stories/news/state2002/1114kamen_2002.shtml
[16:42] <cmell> mmmmhhh 4950 $
[16:43] <butch> anyone read on recent developements of the "meg"??
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[16:43] <cmell> no
[16:45] <cmell> I saw the story about the waterpurifier/powergenerator on discovery so it must be at least 6 / 9 / 12 months old
[16:50] <sleth> see everyone later
[16:51] <QueenVee> bye sleth
[16:51] <cmell> later sleth
[16:51] <sleth> later cmell monk
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[17:02] <cmell> what happened monk ?
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[17:02] <PGill> i see the website's design has changed, i like it
[17:02] <QueenVee> thanks pgill
[17:03] <PGill> so any new big news?
[17:03] <QueenVee> no, afraid not....
[17:03] <monk> comp froze
[17:03] <QueenVee> quiet news day
[17:03] <PGill> ah
[17:04] <cmell> QV that prob. with the opera browser is not anything you should spend any time on, it's most likely a prob within the browser :)
[17:06] <Zetapal> well
[17:06] <Zetapal> while we're all sitting around.
[17:06] <Zetapal> does anyone want anything?
[17:07] <QueenVee> hey, here's some interesting news:
[17:07] <cmell> zetapal I tried spoofing as any browser, and it still didn't work
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[17:07] <cmell> what do you have ZP
[17:07] <QueenVee> hello Lexar
[17:07] <LeXar> good evening my fellow survival seekers
[17:07] <LeXar> heh
[17:07] <Zetapal> I've got nancy's int on Art Bell - both of em - and the three Jeff Rense int on mp3
[17:07] <cmell> evenin'
[17:07] <monk> yea zp whats u got
[17:07] <LeXar> hello there QueenVee
[17:08] <monk> got anything else zp ?
[17:08] <QueenVee> i'm putting moderation mode on for a minute in order to post something....
[17:08] * QueenVee sets mode: +m
[17:08] <cmell> I guess it's like 100mb
[17:08] <QueenVee> On April 16, 1996, the New York Times reported on a mysterious military base being constructed in Russia:
[17:08] <QueenVee> "In a secret project reminiscent of the chilliest days of the Cold War, Russia is building a mammoth underground military complex in the Ural Mountains, Western officials and Russian witnesses say.
[17:08] <QueenVee> "Hidden inside Yamantau mountain in the Beloretsk area of the southern Urals, the project involved the creation of a huge complex, served by a railroad, a highway, and thousands of workers."
[17:08] <Zetapal> monk I've got a list of my mp3 music on a txt file if you want to take a look - if you see something you like - I can just send it over
[17:09] <Zetapal> oops sorry
[17:09] <QueenVee> There are reportedly provisions for living inside the man-made caves. There is an underground warehouse for food and clothing, a shelter for the Russian national leadership in case of nulcear war,
[17:09] <monk> i already have it zp thanks
[17:09] <monk> ill brb gotta cook
[17:09] <QueenVee> you can find the full article here: http://www.viewzone.com/yamantau.html
[17:09] * QueenVee sets mode: -m
[17:09] <PGill> hey Zetapal, would you mind sending me interviews / nancy?
[17:09] <cmell> ok send it ZP
[17:09] <Zetapal> oh yeah monk
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[17:10] <Zetapal> sure Pgill - you want to start with the most recent interview first?
[17:10] <Zetapal> ok cmel
[17:10] <PGill> yea sure
[17:12] <Zetapal> ok Pgill see pvt
[17:12] <PGill> yup, im receiving
[17:13] <cmell> zetapal I'd like those too (that PGill gets)
[17:14] <Zetapal> ok cmel gotcha - heads up
[17:15] <Zetapal> this is first of three for nov25th int - 19meg each
[17:16] <cmell> ok
[17:17] <cmell> I'm listening to Joe Pesci right now :)
[17:18] <cmell> Zetapal, you have anything from the movie Scarface ?
[17:21] <Zetapal> cmel - i saw Scarface posted on usenet a week or so ago
[17:21] <cmell> really ?
[17:21] <cmell> in which group ?
[17:22] <Zetapal> oh yeah - you should drop into those movie groups once in a while to see whats available
[17:22] <cmell> ok :)
[17:22] <Zetapal> not sure which -
[17:22] <cmell> I never did get my newsbin to work :(
[17:23] <Zetapal> did the trial period run out?
[17:23] <cmell> yep
[17:23] <cmell> now it slow
[17:23] <cmell> its
[17:24] <Zetapal> right
[17:24] <cmell> and all my settings hhmm
[17:24] <cmell> I don't want to loose them
[17:24] <QueenVee> tex: Stanislav Lunev, a high-ranking Russian military intelligence officer who defected in 1992 [says] "You ask about Yamantau Mountain. Well, this is a huge underground city, which could be used in time when many Russian cities are destroyed, but the military and political elite will survive and live until our planet will try to restore itself...."
[17:25] <QueenVee> interesting choice of words
[17:25] <cmell> interesting
[17:25] <Zetapal> indeed
[17:25] <tex-away> I read that... just thought I could find something more recent
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[17:26] <cmell> what version of newsbin do you have ZP ?
[17:26] <QueenVee> tex: interesting, don't you think? a question for nancy maybe?
[17:27] <from_Texas> yes indeed
[17:27] <from_Texas> very good question
[17:28] <cmell> is there anyone who has a map of military bases throughout US and the rest of the world
[17:30] <cmell> hhmmm
[17:32] <from_Texas> http://www.globemaster.de/
[17:32] <from_Texas> see if that helps cmell
[17:33] <cmell> thx tex
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[17:34] <cmell> hey boy
[17:35] <BoY> hell-o
[17:36] <QueenVee> Hello Boy
[17:36] <BoY> hell-o
[17:38] <QueenVee> Boy: check out the lead story on this page (Is the Russian Power Elite Preparing for a Natural Catastrophe?): http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/index.php
[17:39] <BoY> am all ready reading there i like the article on px uk news
[17:39] <BoY> :)
[17:39] <cmell> :)
[17:39] <cmell> you wont like it come may :(
[17:40] <BoY> will u like it
[17:40] <Zetapal> I'll like it - I'll bet its puuurrdy
[17:41] <cmell> I will be scared as hell :(
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[17:41] <cmell> hey monk
[17:41] <monk> hi
[17:41] <Zetapal> . ~~* .o O
[17:41] <monk> whats that suppose to mean zp
[17:42] <BoY> i've have always wnated to get back to nature
[17:42] <Zetapal> ok so I'm no artist
[17:42] <cmell> it means : ~~* .o O
[17:42] <BoY> & i's rather have a natrual calmaity than a man made 1
[17:42] <Zetapal> monk - its pX approaching Earth
[17:42] <QueenVee> Boy: well put
[17:43] <cmell> yes Boy
[17:43] <cmell> the yellow is the sun
[17:43] <cmell> right ZP
[17:43] <Zetapal> yes - the sun would be yellow
[17:44] <Zetapal> :)
[17:44] <cmell> the red with the tail is px right
[17:45] <Zetapal> yup, and the little dot beside Earth is the moon
[17:45] <cmell> I must admit I never did understand ...
[17:45] <monk> oh ok
[17:45] <cmell> yup
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[17:45] <BoY> do u figure that pic of px via scopes will be realy revealing in feb since it'll be almost visible to eye in day time
[17:46] <cmell> mine is closer heh
[17:46] <cmell> it must be
[17:46] <cmell> boy
[17:47] <monk> planet x is outside of pluto right now right
[17:47] <monk> ?
[17:47] <BoY> the pic right now being only dots i figure the pic ought a show planet it self,what u think
[17:47] <BoY> in feb
[17:47] <cmell> don't know
[17:47] <monk> I bet nasa has some nice pics of planet x
[17:48] <BoY> i have seen what a small c-90 can take using convwrter tube to camera
[17:48] <cmell> heck they have a pic up a nibiruans nose by now :) heh
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[17:48] <Zetapal> wb Pgill
[17:48] <monk> yea
[17:48] <PGill> stupid comp froze on me :(
[17:48] <Zetapal> shall we continue?
[17:48] <monk> they see them dancing around singing
[17:48] <PGill> yea go ahead
[17:49] <Zetapal> ok 3rd of three coming
[17:49] <PGill> k
[17:49] <cmell> they have the scope in orbit
[17:49] <monk> The zetas said they faked a probe blowing up which is being sent to check out planet x
[17:49] <cmell> they can see the man in the moon, where he hasen't
[17:51] <cmell> but how about the pope-scope ?
[17:51] <Zetapal> I have a hard time believing that we can't/ aren't/ or won't be able to pick up radio waves from pX
[17:52] <QueenVee> who says they use radio waves?
[17:52] <Zetapal> who says they don't
[17:52] <monk> radio waves is a human invention
[17:53] <cmell> well they apparently had tech similar to ours back then (ie at least 2000 years ago) that we have, so maybe they have improved ?
[17:53] <QueenVee> well, considering the fact that they are so much more technically advanced than we are, it is more logical to assume that they are using a different form of communication, than to assume they are using our level of technology
[17:53] <QueenVee> zetapal: maybe a question for nancy?
[17:53] <Zetapal> sure why not
[17:54] <cmell> I think it has been addressed
[17:55] <Zetapal> yeah - quaranteen - end of story
[17:55] <cmell> heh
[17:55] <QueenVee> no, but why not ask what kind of technology the annunaki use for communication,wheter it resembles our radio waves?
[17:56] <cmell> well with that angle perhaps
[17:56] <cmell> ~~* .o O
[17:57] <Zetapal> well first off - humans didn't invent radio waves any more than they invented electricity - humans just discovered what was already there in 3rd density nature and used it for communication - even when not used for communication lots of things produce radio waves even the planet itself I think, thats why we have radio telescopes
[17:57] <BoY> i see gold price is rising
[17:57] <BoY> yippie
[17:58] <cmell> yes ZP
[17:58] <cmell> but FM is something thats rare in the universe !
[18:00] <Zetapal> I just suspect that if they are a developed 3rd density race and had space ships last time they came through - then SOMETHING they are doing ought to be giving off radio waves
[18:00] <QueenVee> like what?
[18:00] <cmell> why ?
[18:01] <Zetapal> well - lets start with electricity
[18:01] <cmell> maybe they're using lazer communication
[18:01] <monk> what giving off some type of radiation but I dont know about radio waves
[18:01] <Zetapal> do you suppose they don't harness electricity?
[18:01] <QueenVee> that's like someone from the 19th century looking at a building and saying it couldn't possibly be a factory, because there is no smoke billowing from a chimney....
[18:01] <cmell> heh
[18:02] <cmell> remember they're thousands of years in front of us
[18:02] <BoY> do u mean there's credit for time
[18:02] <Zetapal> cool - so radio should be a toy for their kids - long since mastered
[18:03] <QueenVee> right, like we let our kids still play with coal furnaces
[18:03] <QueenVee> or wind-up phonographs
[18:03] <QueenVee> or nickleodeons
[18:04] <cmell> or pornographs hehe
[18:04] <cmell> sorry
[18:04] <cmell> yes :)
[18:04] <QueenVee> IF -- and it's a big IF -- they ever did use radiowaves, their "radios" would be sitting in a museum somewhere.... unused....
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[18:06] <QueenVee> if anything, the young always want the very latest in technology for their "toys"....
[18:06] <PGill> well the downloads are done thanks a lot ZP
[18:08] <Zetapal> PGill would you like the June 11th interview?
[18:09] <PGill> how big is the file?
[18:09] <Zetapal> 3 files about 15 meg each
[18:10] <PGill> yea sure, send em
[18:10] <Zetapal> ok whereas the previous int was with george norray, this one is with Art Bell himself:
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[18:11] <cmell> wb monk
[18:11] <monk> thax
[18:13] <monk> hows it going cmell
[18:13] <cmell> it's going ok :)
[18:13] <monk> good
[18:13] <cmell> how 'bout you ?
[18:13] <monk> great!
[18:14] <monk> what a wonderful world were living in
[18:14] <QueenVee> 35 evacuated after floods hit Malasia: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2002/12/16/nation/ktnwater&sec=nation
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[18:14] <froggy> hi
[18:15] <cmell> monk ... no
[18:15] <cmell> hi froggy
[18:15] <monk> no ?
[18:15] <monk> hi froggy
[18:15] <QueenVee> hi froggy
[18:15] <froggy> survival instinct is on TLC
[18:15] <froggy> hi :)
[18:16] <LeXar> everyone...... very sorry for not speaking a word tonight...... I worked all day, and the same scenario will result of tomorrow...
[18:16] <LeXar> must make as much money before the shiftto finish buying preparations
[18:16] <LeXar> goodnight everyone, once again sorry
[18:16] <cmell> thats fine with me LeX
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[18:17] <Zetapal> ha ha good one - mayday
[18:17] <cmell> I looked at that to ZP
[18:18] <cmell> too
[18:19] <cmell> but it's a good one ... hehe
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[18:21] <cmell> what does one say when in a sub (when in an uncontrollable upwards motion), mayday mayday mayday going up ???
[18:22] <monk> were going to die
[18:22] <cmell> were going to blow
[18:22] <monk> close
[18:23] <cmell> unless the sub was having 1atm pressure inside :)
[18:24] <monk> tongiht on artbell gonna be a good show
[18:24] <Zetapal> whose on ?
[18:25] <cmell> who's on ?? monk ?
[18:25] <monk> Mike Heiser
[18:25] <monk> Mike Heiser is currently writing his Ph.D. dissertation titled "Divine Beings in Jewish Literature Written Between the Old and New Testament Periods." He is an expert on angels and divine beings in ancient semitic texts. Besides his formal academic training, Mike has had a life-long interest in the paranormal, particularly the UFO phenomenon. He is uniquely qualified to write on the intersection of ufology with ancient te
[18:25] <cmell> hhmm
[18:26] <cmell> monk I thought you were a catholic ?
[18:26] <monk> I have no religion
[18:27] <cmell> my bad then huh
[18:27] <monk> I am open and able to expand my beliefs
[18:27] <monk> religions will just keep you down
[18:27] <cmell> bad bad cmell
[18:27] <cmell> yes I agree
[18:27] <QueenVee> do you have to stretch before you do that?
[18:27] <cmell> heh
[18:27] <monk> Yes
[18:28] <cmell> us ateists stretch alot allways
[18:28] <cmell> heh
[18:29] <monk> yea sure
[18:29] <cmell> NOT
[18:30] <cmell> I hate fundamentalism in religion
[18:30] <monk> what actually does a ateist like you believe in
[18:30] <monk> zetatalk religion ?
[18:30] <cmell> no
[18:31] <cmell> I believe in being just
[18:31] <cmell> I believe in being fair
[18:31] <monk> Thats cool
[18:31] <Zetapal> I believe I'll have another
[18:32] <cmell> I believe in everybody else judging me
[18:32] <Zetapal> lol
[18:32] <Zetapal> wow
[18:32] <cmell> heh
[18:32] <cmell> and thats true
[18:32] <cmell> and then some
[18:32] <QueenVee> i believe this conversation is getting quite silly....
[18:32] <cmell> yes QV
[18:32] <Zetapal> I believe that everybody else is right and only i am wrong
[18:33] <cmell> haha
[18:34] <cmell> I believe in this stopping because it's leading nowhere
[18:34] <cmell> :)
[18:34] <monk> anyone intrested in zecharia sitchen ?
[18:34] <cmell> yes
[18:34] <monk> http://www.facadenovel.com/sitchinerrors.htm
[18:35] <monk> something to look at
[18:41] <cmell> [03:29:20] <monk> what actually does a ateist like you believe in : I honestly believe in being honest in all aspects of life !!
[18:42] <monk> great
[18:42] <cmell> if I live up to that is another story :)
[18:42] <Zetapal> this show is good -
[18:42] <Zetapal> TLC
[18:42] <cmell> TLC = ?
[18:43] <Zetapal> The learning Channe;
[18:43] <cmell> I dont have that :(
[18:43] <Zetapal> :(
[18:44] <monk> its not even on on my tlc channel
[18:44] <monk> what show is it
[18:44] <cmell> as I don't have scifi
[18:44] <monk> oh human instinct
[18:44] <Zetapal> Human Instinct
[18:44] <monk> its on in 2 hours here
[18:45] <froggy> hi, i'm back...
[18:45] <cmell> hey frog
[18:46] <monk> wb
[18:48] <froggy> anything going on?
[18:49] <QueenVee> interesting article about russia on the main page of our website: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[18:49] * cmell waves at froggy
[18:49] <froggy> monk, how do you get artbell....do you have to be a member?
[18:49] <cmell> no
[18:50] <cmell> if it's live you can get it fre
[18:50] <cmell> free
[18:50] <froggy> queenbee, i looked at your website....you put a lot of work into it
[18:50] <QueenVee> :-)
[18:50] <froggy> it looks great
[18:51] <QueenVee> :-)))))
[18:51] <froggy> :)
[18:51] <froggy> how long did it take you to do that?
[18:52] <QueenVee> oh, couple of weeks....
[18:52] <froggy> wow
[18:52] <QueenVee> i enjoyed it
[18:52] <QueenVee> i had a lot of help from Ralf
[18:53] <froggy> good job Ralf and queenvee then :)
[18:53] <cmell> http://www.lateniteradio.com/
[18:53] <froggy> what is that?
[18:53] <cmell> when does it start ?
[18:54] <froggy> is that art bell?
[18:54] <cmell> yes
[18:54] <cmell> relayed
[18:57] <froggy> i hear a football game
[18:58] <monk> its not on now
[18:58] <monk> in 3 hours artbell starts
[18:59] <froggy> thanks
[19:00] <cmell> just a sec brb
[19:03] <cmell> back
[19:04] <cmell> Rodney Carrington
[19:04] <Zetapal> yeah
[19:04] <monk> oh him and his truck
[19:04] <cmell> real redneck
[19:04] <Zetapal> yeah
[19:04] <cmell> hah
[19:05] <Zetapal> I thought it was kinda funny
[19:05] <cmell> yes it is
[19:05] <monk> its not lol funny but its funny
[19:05] <cmell> monk you said it
[19:05] <Zetapal> yeah monk thought it was har har funny
[19:05] <cmell> aww it stopped
[19:06] <monk> hah
[19:07] <monk> gonna be listening to jeff rense survival in the city
[19:08] <Zetapal> 3 out of 4 men said yes to sex with a women they never met before - only half agreed to go out for coffee
[19:08] <cmell> quote : "Don't get high on you'r own supply"
[19:08] <cmell> where's that from ?
[19:08] <QueenVee> zp: lol
[19:08] <Zetapal> this Human Instinct show
[19:08] <cmell> heh
[19:08] <QueenVee> conversatoin is much more dangerous
[19:09] <cmell> yes
[19:09] <monk> lol on rense show u could hear him talking in the backround and this guy is eating
[19:10] <froggy> i think some people can prepare for ever, but if they don't have survival instincts they are dead anyway
[19:11] <monk> ahh its better now
[19:12] <QueenVee> froggy: very well said
[19:12] <QueenVee> the ability to ADAPT will be key
[19:12] <QueenVee> the ability to quickly move on from LOSS
[19:13] <QueenVee> the ability to see the glass half full rather than half empty....
[19:13] <QueenVee> the ability to problem-solve and think creatively
[19:13] <QueenVee> the ability to COOPERATE with others
[19:14] <froggy> how do you really feel about it :)
[19:15] <QueenVee> hehe
[19:16] <froggy> that is good for everyday life
[19:16] <QueenVee> fer sure
[19:16] <cmell> well ppl it will be a real shock for me when it happens
[19:16] <QueenVee> even though you know about it in advance?
[19:16] <cmell> yes
[19:17] <cmell> think about it ppl you know will die
[19:17] <cmell> and you sit there blaming yourself for not doing more
[19:18] <cmell> sure it'll be a shock
[19:18] <QueenVee> well, i'm coming to terms with that now
[19:18] <QueenVee> so that i won't get stuck in it at the time
[19:18] <cmell> good for you, I'm not
[19:18] <QueenVee> well, it's part of preparing
[19:18] <cmell> yes I still have time though
[19:19] <QueenVee> why would i blame myself for not doing more if i have done everything i can?
[19:19] <cmell> well, we aren't allways rational
[19:19] <QueenVee> knowing one's limits will be an important ability in the aftertime
[19:20] <QueenVee> no, and we don't have to always be irrational either
[19:20] <cmell> yes I know
[19:20] <froggy> what if nothing happens
[19:20] <froggy> what if the whole thing is a joke
[19:20] <cmell> hhmm
[19:20] <QueenVee> well, the way i see it i will be too busy helping those who can be helped to sit around navel gazing
[19:21] <froggy> or a test
[19:21] <cmell> good
[19:21] <QueenVee> i am preparing for all eventualities
[19:21] <QueenVee> so none of them will throw me for a loop
[19:21] <froggy> what have you done qv?
[19:22] <cmell> it's hard for me, because I have to move to another country
[19:22] <QueenVee> i've relocated, i've developed a very extensive and specific plan of action to be put in place at a certain time
[19:22] <cmell> good for you
[19:23] <froggy> i sure hope you make it after all that
[19:23] <QueenVee> i made the decision to work freelance for a lot less money than i used to make, so that i would have the freedom to move around
[19:23] <QueenVee> froggy: well, i'm also pr