Session Start: Thu Dec 19 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] * skeleton has left #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:07] * walt has quit IRC
[00:15] * humvee has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:17] * humvee has quit IRC (Leaving)
[00:17] * humvee has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:19] * humvee has quit IRC (Leaving)
[01:30] * Ralf is now known as Ralf-ZzZz
[01:30] * Ralf-ZzZz is away: sleep (l/p!on)[jrl@hsds.net] : os-2/bx
[02:02] * RNTHOMAS has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[02:04] * RNTHOMAS has quit IRC (ZZZZZzzzzzz.......)
[03:30] * ukuz_zzz has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[03:58] * ukuz_zzz has left #poleshiftdiscussion
[06:10] * Disconnected
[06:10] * Attempting to rejoin channel #poleshiftdiscussion
[06:10] * Rejoined channel #poleshiftdiscussion
[06:10] * Topic is 'Chat room for those who seriously consider www.ZetaTalk.com and wish to discuss lead-up events and preparation for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime. Others please read site for basic info and/or join #EarthChanges for more general poleshift/PX chat.'
[06:10] * Set by ChanServ on Wed Dec 18 17:13:28
[06:10] -ChanServ- (#poleshiftdiscussion) Welcome to the SHIFT2003 CHAT ROOM. Moderator: QueenVee59@hotmail.com. Website: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[07:19] * Dsarith has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[07:19] <Dsarith> Good Morning all
[07:20] * cwtan has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[07:23] * cwtan has quit IRC (Leaving)
[07:26] * Tenshu has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[07:41] * QueenVee has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[07:41] * ChanServ sets mode: +o QueenVee
[07:41] <Dsarith> Good Morning QV
[07:41] * QueenVee sets mode: +o tex-away
[07:41] <QueenVee> hello Dsarith
[07:41] <Dsarith> Everyone is quiet today
[07:41] <QueenVee> well, it's usually quiet at this time of day
[07:41] <Dsarith> :-)
[07:42] * tex-at-work has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[07:42] <QueenVee> Hello Tenshu -- not seen you here before....
[07:42] <QueenVee> hi tex
[07:42] <Dsarith> hi tex
[07:42] * QueenVee sets mode: +o tex-at-work
[07:42] <Dsarith> Tex is away and here at the same time
[07:43] <QueenVee> tex is everywhere and nowhere
[07:43] <Dsarith> Schitzophrenia I think
[07:43] <tex-at-work> hi Dsarith
[07:43] <QueenVee> Dsarith: you might find some activity over in #earthchanges...
[07:43] <tex-at-work> hi QV
[07:43] <Dsarith> What kind of Activity? I am happy just being here :-)
[07:44] <QueenVee> ha -- i just meant "less quiet""....
[07:44] <tex-at-work> had to lay low for a second and see if any crazies where present...QV
[07:44] <QueenVee> coward
[07:44] <QueenVee> yeah, leave me to deal with them
[07:45] <Dsarith> Nah, dont need activity
[07:45] <tex-at-work> no just need to get the ammo ready
[07:45] <QueenVee> Tenshu: what brings you to this rooom?
[07:46] <QueenVee> tex: the ammo being... me?
[07:46] <Tenshu> i been reading zetatalk for about a year
[07:46] <QueenVee> hehe
[07:46] <QueenVee> Tenshu: about the same time i have
[07:46] <QueenVee> what part of the world do you live in?
[07:46] <Tenshu> i'm not very old, actually.. so i've recently been introduced to all this at like the age of 14, almost 15
[07:46] <Tenshu> US
[07:47] <QueenVee> oh, i see.... what part of the US?
[07:47] <Tenshu> mid west.. indiana.
[07:47] <QueenVee> it's a lot to deal with for someone your age
[07:47] <Tenshu> yeah, i was a lil worried at first
[07:47] <QueenVee> i started researching this subject when i was a little younger than you
[07:48] <Tenshu> good to hear i'm not the only person around that age takin in all this..
[07:48] <Tenshu> i know i'm not just seemed like it for awhile.
[07:49] <QueenVee> Tenshu: we actually have a few teenagers who come to this room....
[07:49] <Tenshu> i talked with one of my friends, whos 20 now, and another whos 19.. have a few other friends that talk with me about this alot.
[07:49] <Tenshu> realy?
[07:49] <QueenVee> yep
[07:49] <Tenshu> i've wanted to come in for a really long time.. just didn't know what i'd say or do.
[07:50] <Dsarith> It appears that you have a reputation QV :-)
[07:50] <QueenVee> have you seen our website? http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[07:51] <Tenshu> nope, i haven't.
[07:51] <Tenshu> been through alotta sites recently.. been noticing alot of change
[07:51] <QueenVee> we will be setting up a section there in about a week called 'NETWORKING WITH OTHERS", where people can post profiles of themselves, letting others know that they are looking to connect with others in their area.... perhaps you can post one looking to connect with others your age....
[07:51] <QueenVee> just a thought
[07:52] <Tenshu> yeah that sounds like a good idea..
[07:52] <Tenshu> wow, hehe.. even has a countdown.
[07:52] <QueenVee> if you give me your email address on a private channel, i can put you on the mailing list -- i'll be sending information to the list on how to post a profile in about a week
[07:53] <Tenshu> so it's now been said px will pass in may 2003? i remember when they were figuring that all out..
[07:53] <Tenshu> alright
[07:53] <QueenVee> well, ZT has ALWAYS said it would pass in May2003 -- that hasn't changed in 5 years
[07:54] <Tenshu> oh cuz i remember reading somethin that said they know it'll pass in spring/summer time of 2003
[07:54] <QueenVee> do you live in a city or in the country?
[07:55] <Tenshu> i live next to a city.. sorta suburban
[07:55] <Tenshu> i'm actually
[07:55] <Tenshu> like 100 or less miles from Kokomo, Indiana
[07:56] <QueenVee> government hide-out there
[07:56] <Tenshu> yeah..
[07:56] <Tenshu> lil worried bout it
[07:56] <QueenVee> have you been hearing the Kokomo Hum?
[07:56] <Tenshu> there's been alot of helicopters and planes heading towards kokomo
[07:56] <QueenVee> wow, how unnerving
[07:56] <Tenshu> there was actually about 2 or 3 helis above us yesterday
[07:57] <QueenVee> geez
[07:57] <Tenshu> there was a smoke of fire around that area a month or two ago
[07:57] <Tenshu> i was goin back to school after i got done with the docs, and i saw a huge cloud of smoke in that direction
[07:57] <Tenshu> i was kinda wondering what it was and nothing was said about it
[07:57] <QueenVee> have you talked to your parents about any of this?
[07:58] <Tenshu> i'm a little worried about talking with my mom.. parents are divorced.
[07:58] <QueenVee> worried how?
[07:58] <Tenshu> i'm not sure.. my mom seems to stressed and shes just.. i just feel like she wouldn't take it over very easily
[07:59] <QueenVee> yes, no point in stressing her until you have to
[07:59] <Tenshu> she's been really overstressed about my grandmother near death..
[07:59] <Tenshu> yeah.. and plus we're having money problems
[07:59] <QueenVee> that must be hard on you too
[07:59] <QueenVee> are you in contact with your father?
[07:59] <Tenshu> yep, i still talk with him.
[07:59] <QueenVee> (if you don't mind my asking)
[07:59] <Tenshu> he's kinda been the one that started opening my mind
[08:00] <QueenVee> where does he live?
[08:00] <Tenshu> next to Cincinnati
[08:00] <Tenshu> he lives in kentucky, but near a bunch of large hills
[08:01] <QueenVee> have you discussed any plans for the poleshift with him?
[08:01] <Tenshu> no i haven't.. he's been out of town the past 2-3 months
[08:01] <Tenshu> he got this new job contract and he's been extremely busy for me to talk to
[08:01] <Tenshu> i've talked with a bunch of my friends here about all of this.. i want to get my self comfortable and accept the idea
[08:02] <Tenshu> before i start telling people so i can calm them down before a panic comes over them
[08:02] <QueenVee> well, mental preparation is as important as physical preparation
[08:02] <QueenVee> you are doing the right thing
[08:02] <Tenshu> :)
[08:02] <QueenVee> you seem a very intelligent and level-headed young man
[08:02] <Tenshu> thanks..
[08:02] <QueenVee> you know, people your age will be leaders in the aftertime
[08:03] <Tenshu> really?
[08:03] <QueenVee> ZT says the young will lead the adults
[08:03] <Tenshu> i've felt that kind of.. one of my friends and i have started gathering a list of things
[08:03] <QueenVee> they will have a better grasp of things
[08:04] <Tenshu> hehe.. i've felt like adults don't listen to us kids enough
[08:04] <Tenshu> but are so worried about us getting into drugs and what not, they just talk about that.
[08:04] <QueenVee> the adults will be in shock....
[08:04] <Tenshu> yeah i could imagine..
[08:04] <Tenshu> my mom's freaking out about one person dying.. its hard to see her deal with that many at once.
[08:05] <QueenVee> well, the death of a parent involves a lot of complex emotions....
[08:05] <Tenshu> yeah.. i wouldn't know it very well but i could try and understand
[08:05] <Tenshu> i understand death is a hard thing for people to realize and accept .. so i've just talked to her about grandma dying.
[08:06] <QueenVee> yes, i've also had a lot of trouble understanding people's fear of death -- because i've never had it myself
[08:06] <Tenshu> yes the same thing with me
[08:06] <QueenVee> when you know its just a transition to another kind of life, not an ending...
[08:07] <Tenshu> that's what i feel like it is
[08:07] <Tenshu> life is death and life is living. everything is sorta the same, to me
[08:07] <Tenshu> i've accepted the fact that i could possibly die in the pole shift, so i don't fear it anymore.
[08:08] <QueenVee> here, i'm going to quote something from ZT for you that i know you'll find interesting. i'm going to put moderation mode on while i do it, which means you can't post until i'm done, ok?
[08:08] <Tenshu> i see this as just a learning experience and as things come, you have to adapt.
[08:08] <Tenshu> alright.
[08:08] * QueenVee sets mode: +m
[08:08] <QueenVee> Many children are being born at this time, quite young to face the cataclysms that will occur before they reach their teens, much less adulthood. Why would this be the plan, when such children would likely be in shock, neglected, and unable to lead, certainly. These special children are in a optimal position to lead, contrary to mankinds understanding.
[08:08] <QueenVee> Why would this be so? Children, souls incarnating into the young, are without the burden that human adults have assumed, of preconcieved notions and the societal need to conform.
[08:09] <QueenVee> They are open, and comment upon what they see as reality, not with the suppression that society imposes and which becomes automatic and adopted by adults who must function in society.
[08:09] <QueenVee> Likewise, these children have stamina and health, as in truth the human body is strongest prior to the age of 20 or so, and declines afterwards.
[08:09] <QueenVee> Thus, survival groups, stunned by what has happened and in despair over being abandoned and lied to by their governments. In shock over the adjustments to their prior lifestyle, and depressed over the adjustments that must be made.
[08:09] <QueenVee> Thus, survival groups, stunned by what has happened and in despair over being abandoned and lied to by their governments. In shock over the adjustments to their prior lifestyle, and depressed over the adjustments that must be made.
[08:09] <QueenVee> They will be the visionaries of the future, among human survival groups, to a degree that would stun their parents now. Thus, led by a child is a phrase that will become a reality in the near future.
[08:10] <QueenVee> They are on the increase now, to serve as during the shift, when most of humanity will be stunned and hurting and the lack of leadership crying for natural leaders to step forward.
[08:10] <QueenVee> Of course, the children will not be the only ones leading, as there are many natural leaders among the adults! But the relative youth allows them more flexibility.
[08:10] <QueenVee> Not the least of which is that adults may resist other adults, getting into posturing, but will take a child's suggestion as just that. Children have ways of influencing their elders which the elders scarsely take note of, but an anaylsis of the process shows that the child is leading.
[08:10] <QueenVee> END OF QUOTE
[08:10] * QueenVee sets mode: -m
[08:10] <QueenVee> interesting, eh?
[08:10] <Tenshu> hehe that brought a tear to my eye :)
[08:11] <QueenVee> :-)
[08:11] <Tenshu> i'm glad we are seen more than just a nouisance on adults
[08:11] <Tenshu> rarely are we listened to because of our "age"
[08:11] <QueenVee> Tenshu: i was living on my own, supporting myself when i was 16, so i would never view someone your age that way....
[08:12] <Tenshu> i know, and i thank you for that
[08:12] <Tenshu> most adults seem to be just.. closed minded to the young mind
[08:12] <QueenVee> as you get older, you come to see that many "adults" are more childish than many young people
[08:12] <Tenshu> haha i've noticed that with one person i know :)
[08:12] <QueenVee> age does not automatically give you maturity and wisdom
[08:13] <Tenshu> yeah and that's why i dont' like people judging others..
[08:13] <Tenshu> most don't sit down and have a good conversation with a child, some do from what i'v enoticed
[08:13] <Tenshu> but most convos between adult and child is "drugs, sex, eductation"
[08:13] <QueenVee> you should always look to people's actions and intentions; their superficialities -- age, job, income, social status -- are meaningless
[08:14] <Tenshu> yeah, i've realized that
[08:14] <Tenshu> i have a variety of friends, classified by society as a different race, poverty, rich, moderate
[08:14] <QueenVee> you are doing the right thing, gathering as much information as you can, so that you can step forward and be of assistance in the aftertime
[08:14] <Tenshu> hm.. i don't know. my mom gets on me alot about having friends that are not "high class"
[08:15] <QueenVee> the only "class" in my opinion is the depth of the soul and heart
[08:15] <Tenshu> good.. i feel better now cuz, even tho everything was telling me to tell everyone, somethin inside me told me to wait
[08:15] <Tenshu> and just tell them when the time is right
[08:15] <Tenshu> and i'll know when that time has come
[08:16] <Tenshu> yeah.. i sometimes feel like i can talk to a certain person about things and some others i can't talk to at all
[08:16] <QueenVee> Tenhsu: well, please never hesitate to come here when you want to talk to others about the subject
[08:16] <Tenshu> i'll do that :)
[08:16] <QueenVee> you know, contrary to what adults tell you, adult life is not that different from adolescent life
[08:16] <QueenVee> ya gotta deal with the same kind of shit
[08:17] <Tenshu> haha yeah
[08:17] <Tenshu> it's jsut named as "harder to deal with"
[08:17] <QueenVee> i'm 43, by the way
[08:17] <Tenshu> wow.. i would've expected you to be about 20s or so
[08:17] <QueenVee> haha
[08:17] <QueenVee> yeah, i'm OLD....
[08:18] <Tenshu> nah
[08:18] <tex-at-work> you were 20 once QV
[08:18] <Tenshu> :P
[08:18] <QueenVee> tex: hey, i'm still 16 in my heart
[08:18] <Tenshu> age is but a number!
[08:18] <tex-at-work> 'QV: staty that way
[08:19] <QueenVee> Tenshu: well, there are a lot of good things about becoming middle aged.... in my opinion....
[08:19] <Tenshu> the experience?
[08:19] <QueenVee> i'm happy to put certain aspects of my youth behind me
[08:19] <QueenVee> experience is a double-edged sword...
[08:19] <Dsarith> I am not far behind you QV... 36, but I like middle age!
[08:19] <Tenshu> hehe
[08:20] <QueenVee> well, once you are no longer worrying about achieving all those things society tells you you should achieve by a certain age -- marriage, children, carreer success, financial success, etc....
[08:20] <Tenshu> i'm glad to see that others in that range of age are actually talking about it.. i feel alot more comfortable
[08:20] <QueenVee> .... then you can concentrate on more important things
[08:20] <Tenshu> oh ya my family keeps pressuring me about all that stuff. i've wnated to become an astronomer since i remembered
[08:21] <QueenVee> wow, cool
[08:21] <Tenshu> i remember i'd always just go outside, and look at the sky
[08:21] <Tenshu> i saw ET once and when i look back at on it now, it feels like a dejavu more than anything
[08:21] <QueenVee> mmmm, you are a StarChild perhaps...
[08:22] <Tenshu> StarChild.. i read about it on zetatalk
[08:23] <Tenshu> i'm still wondering exactly what a StarChild is.. i have a good grasp on it
[08:25] <QueenVee> a soul whose home is not earth.... who comes from another world....
[08:25] <Tenshu> i've felt that sometimes..
[08:25] <Tenshu> kind of homesick even though i have a "home".
[08:26] <QueenVee> well, you need to hold on to that sense of being special, of having something unique to offer here, a role to play in the aftertime
[08:26] <QueenVee> don't worry so much about the specifics of it....
[08:26] <Tenshu> i know. i haven't worried about that much
[08:26] <Tenshu> i know i'm living right now and i'm human, and i want to help as much as i can
[08:26] <QueenVee> if your heart and desire stay focussed in that direction, it will all come together
[08:27] <Tenshu> i just feel sometimes it's hard to talk to people..
[08:27] <QueenVee> as ZT says, there is much planning and coordination happening behind the scenes, on an unconscious basis
[08:27] <Tenshu> i read about that, too
[08:27] <QueenVee> yes, a lot of people who are aware of the poleshift feel like they're leading a kind of double life....
[08:27] <Tenshu> yeah!
[08:27] <QueenVee> its stressful
[08:28] <QueenVee> but it's a stress we have to live with
[08:28] <Tenshu> yeah and eventually get used to :)
[08:28] <Tenshu> until it all comes out
[08:28] <Tenshu> if you've known about for awhile, i mean.. you get used to leading a double life.
[08:29] <QueenVee> yes, that's what's behind the high emotionalism of the debunkers and skeptics -- they want to resolve the tension in one direction or the other -- they demand "proof" and details so that they can know FOR CERTAIN that the poleshift is going to happen -- otherwise they want to condem it as CRAZY....
[08:30] <Tenshu> aye, been havin problems with people considering it crazy to say something like that
[08:30] <QueenVee> but part of the lesson of the poleshift is learning how to trust your own inner instincts despite what others are saying.... despite the need for resolution
[08:30] <Tenshu> most people are so used to how life is right now, they would be shocked in that moment of change.
[08:30] <Tenshu> puttin into words about what i feel, and its makin me more comfortable :)
[08:30] <QueenVee> Tenshu: my advice about that is to either "keep your own counsel" (as they say) -- or simply get used to people thinking you're crazy....
[08:31] <Tenshu> hehe
[08:31] <Tenshu> so far, none of my friends have thought me crazy
[08:31] <Tenshu> they've actually read most of ZT
[08:31] <QueenVee> that's great
[08:31] <Tenshu> these two friends of mine, i've known for about 5-6 years now, have been a really big impact on my life. i remember when we started talking about existance and how death couldn't possibly be the end
[08:32] <Tenshu> sometimes we'd over think it and over do the necessary
[08:32] <Tenshu> but after awhile, i got used to it all and started accepting myself so i could understand more things
[08:32] <Tenshu> like taking your first steps, in a way.
[08:32] <QueenVee> yep
[08:32] <QueenVee> you have really hit on it, tenshu -- self-acceptance is key
[08:33] <Tenshu> yeah and i've told my friends all the time..
[08:33] <Tenshu> don't try to understand everything if you don't even knw yourself
[08:33] <QueenVee> i did not learn how to do that until just a few years ago, and it has dramatically changed my life
[08:33] <Tenshu> aye
[08:33] <Tenshu> hehe.. i love myself! :)
[08:33] <QueenVee> well, think about it -- how can you love and accept others unconditionally if you cannot love and accept yourself unconditionally?
[08:34] <Tenshu> yeah exactly
[08:34] <QueenVee> people get confused about that, they think self-love means having a high opinion of yourself....
[08:34] <Tenshu> oh ya i know
[08:34] <QueenVee> ... but it just means accepting yourself with all your flaws
[08:34] <Tenshu> like you're on an ego trip or somethin
[08:35] <Tenshu> ya i love finding out about what i do wrong and then going with the change
[08:35] <Tenshu> then i laugh about it =P
[08:35] <QueenVee> good attitude
[08:35] <Tenshu> thanks =)
[08:35] <QueenVee> most people are looking for a fool-proof map of reality to live by, and don't realize that you have to keep altering the map the more you learn about reality...
[08:36] <Tenshu> well said
[08:36] <QueenVee> at any given point you only have an approximation of what is...
[08:36] <QueenVee> there's a saying, the map is not the territory
[08:36] <Tenshu> whew..
[08:37] <QueenVee> some people want to turn ZetaTalk into another kind of bible, but it's also just another map... which may or may not be accurate....
[08:37] <Tenshu> the thing is they are trying, though.
[08:37] <Tenshu> and i look up to them for that.. for trying to do what they know is right
[08:37] <Tenshu> going by what they know and trying to inform
[08:37] <QueenVee> absolutely
[08:37] <Tenshu> but people just keep finding the mistakes like they are perfect
[08:38] <Tenshu> and have to always tear at them for that
[08:38] <Tenshu> if i could, i'd hug nancy and tell her thanks
[08:38] <QueenVee> well, the people you want to steer clear of are the ones who think they have "the truth"....
[08:39] <QueenVee> she's doing a phenomenal job
[08:39] <Tenshu> yeah.. i really look up to her
[08:39] <Tenshu> she's been through so much and still goes on
[08:39] <QueenVee> do you know she does a zetatalk session in here every saturday?
[08:39] <Tenshu> yeah, i decided to come in here this saturday
[08:39] <Tenshu> kind of spectate the first time and see what everyone talks about
[08:40] <QueenVee> well, thing about some questions you might want to put on the agenda, and run them by me.....
[08:40] <Tenshu> yeah i do have one question, actually
[08:40] <QueenVee> i'm sure you will think of some that we "adults" wouldn't
[08:40] <QueenVee> shoot
[08:41] <Tenshu> hehe it's just about this band i listen to, that's helped me alot
[08:41] <QueenVee> what band is that?
[08:41] <Tenshu> have you ever heard of Tool? they've been looked down on because they have sort of a gothic theme
[08:41] <QueenVee> mmmmm.... no
[08:41] <Tenshu> but people have actually come together on toolunity.com
[08:41] <Tenshu> and started talking about the passage
[08:41] <QueenVee> really?
[08:41] <QueenVee> cool
[08:41] <Tenshu> yeah
[08:41] <QueenVee> why is that?
[08:42] <Tenshu> on toolband.com
[08:42] <Tenshu> they started talking about it
[08:42] <Tenshu> i mean i've known about this for almost a year when they started to talk about it
[08:42] <QueenVee> who did? the band?
[08:42] <Tenshu> yeah
[08:42] <QueenVee> mmmm, actually, this is starting to ring a bell....
[08:42] <Tenshu> i went to their concert over the summer, and they said "Think for yourself. Question authority" and played ..ugh..
[08:42] <Tenshu> i can't remember this guys name..
[08:42] <Tenshu> i did research on it a few days ago
[08:43] <Tenshu> they played this video that, i believe the guy who made the book "Everything you know is a lie" i think the book is called?
[08:43] <QueenVee> yeah, someone pointed out their website to me before....
[08:43] <QueenVee> mmmm, dunno
[08:43] <QueenVee> so what would your question be, Tenshu?
[08:43] <Tenshu> hm.. well.. there's a specific song on here
[08:44] <Tenshu> though they like to stress that their song has no particular meaning, i think it has something tod o with the passage.
[08:44] <Tenshu> my question would be
[08:44] <QueenVee> are the lyrics on their website?
[08:44] <Tenshu> Yeah.
[08:44] <QueenVee> can you give me a link?
[08:44] <Tenshu> www.toolband.com
[08:44] <Tenshu> and ill guide you through
[08:44] <QueenVee> okay, i'm there now
[08:45] <Tenshu> click leftside of the brain lol
[08:45] <QueenVee> that's clever
[08:45] <QueenVee> ok
[08:45] <Tenshu> you'll see a few links at top
[08:45] <Tenshu> click on the album
[08:45] <Tenshu> then, it'll branch off and say "Lyrics"
[08:45] <QueenVee> ok
[08:45] <Tenshu> Lateralus, then it's the first song called "The Grudge"
[08:46] <QueenVee> okay
[08:46] <QueenVee> is that it?
[08:46] <Tenshu> yeah
[08:46] <Tenshu> those are the lyris
[08:46] <Tenshu> lyrics
[08:46] <Tenshu> "Unable to forgive your scarlet lettermen"
[08:46] <QueenVee> okay, reading....
[08:46] * ArctiCWoLf has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[08:47] <ArctiCWoLf> hi
[08:47] <Tenshu> hi :)
[08:47] <ArctiCWoLf> was up
[08:47] <ArctiCWoLf> Queen here
[08:47] <QueenVee> hi Arctic
[08:48] <QueenVee> Tenshu: wow, very cool lyrics:
[08:48] <ArctiCWoLf> Hi Q how are ya
[08:48] <QueenVee> Saturn comes back around to show you everything
[08:48] <QueenVee> Let's you choose what you will not see and then
[08:48] <QueenVee> Drags you down like a stone or lifts you up again
[08:48] <QueenVee> Spits you out like a child, light and innocent.
[08:48] <QueenVee> Saturn comes back around. Lifts you up like a child or
[08:48] <QueenVee> Drags you down like a stone to
[08:48] <QueenVee> Consume you till you choose to let this go.
[08:48] <QueenVee> Choose to let this go.
[08:48] <Tenshu> yeah :)
[08:48] <QueenVee> Replace Saturn with Planet-X and you got it....
[08:48] <QueenVee> i'm good Arctic
[08:48] * Tenshu nodnod
[08:48] <ArctiCWoLf> where u find this poem?
[08:48] <QueenVee> Arctic: meet Tenshu, he lives in Indiana
[08:48] <Tenshu> Hi arctic :)
[08:48] <ArctiCWoLf> hi bud
[08:49] <QueenVee> Tenshu was telling me about this band he listens to who talk about PlanetX....
[08:49] <QueenVee> and he was pointing out that the above song seems to be about it
[08:49] <ArctiCWoLf> i found kew; BHP  employment vid its first class q wwanna see
[08:49] <QueenVee> the complete lyrics can be found here: http://www.toolband.com/album/index.html
[08:49] <ArctiCWoLf> ty
[08:49] <QueenVee> Arctic: i have no idea what you're talking about, but sure....
[08:49] <QueenVee> hehe
[08:50] <ArctiCWoLf> DIAMOND Mines
[08:50] <Tenshu> i've noticed something about this band.. they started off with anger sorta ignorance
[08:50] <QueenVee> Tenshu: Wolf lives in the Yukon....
[08:50] <ArctiCWoLf> in the arctic
[08:50] <ArctiCWoLf> NWT
[08:50] <Tenshu> then moved onto opening their mind a lil bit
[08:50] <Tenshu> Ohh that's cool
[08:50] <QueenVee> oh, sorry NWT
[08:50] <Tenshu> It's in Canada right?
[08:50] <ArctiCWoLf> -16c
[08:50] <ArctiCWoLf> Northwest Territories
[08:51] <Tenshu> cool :)
[08:51] <QueenVee> okay, so show me, Wolfie
[08:51] <ArctiCWoLf> click on recruitment vid its nice scenery
[08:51] <ArctiCWoLf> http://ekati.bhpbilliton.com/index.asp
[08:51] <QueenVee> Tenshu: i'm very impressed with those lyrics...
[08:51] <Tenshu> yeah so was I :)
[08:52] <Tenshu> you should read through that cd's lyrics, when you have some time
[08:52] <ArctiCWoLf> theres a tale with the local people about the rivers reversing an such
[08:53] <ArctiCWoLf> that is when they loose there right to land they clain
[08:53] <ArctiCWoLf> laim
[08:53] <ArctiCWoLf> claim
[08:54] <Tenshu> how can i save this on a log?
[08:54] <QueenVee> Tenshu: are you connecting via the web or with an IRC client like MIRC?
[08:54] <Tenshu> yeah i'm in mIRC
[08:54] <ArctiCWoLf> enable logs in mirc
[08:55] <ArctiCWoLf> click mirc help it works
[08:55] <ArctiCWoLf> :)
[08:55] <QueenVee> Tenshu: click on FILE, then OPTIONS, then IRC, then LOGGING
[08:56] <ArctiCWoLf> then any room u enter is logged to that rooms txt file in side mirc dir.
[08:56] <QueenVee> and then make sure you choose "channels" rather than "none'
[08:56] <Tenshu> alright did it
[08:56] <tex-at-work> lunch time
[08:56] <QueenVee> if you have any problem with that, Tenshu, i always keep logs of this channel, so just ask me for it and i will send it to you
[08:56] * tex-at-work has quit IRC (Leaving)
[08:56] <ArctiCWoLf> yummmy
[08:56] <Tenshu> hehe yea.. i was wondering if you could send me that log of the chat we just had?
[08:57] <ArctiCWoLf> u log all of it Q?
[08:57] <Tenshu> one of my friends wants to see wha we were talkin about
[08:57] <QueenVee> Wolf: yes, but i don't keep the logs more than a week
[08:57] <ArctiCWoLf> heh k whew
[08:58] <ArctiCWoLf> sooo u check out recruitment vid?
[08:58] <QueenVee> Tenshu: send me an email asking for it (queenvee59@hotmail.com) and i'll do it when i'm not in this room -- you can't access the logs of the room you are in
[08:58] <Tenshu> aight.
[08:59] <Tenshu> grr i'm about to get a new mail address.. this one is just gettin too much spam
[09:00] <QueenVee> Wolf: still downloading it, it won't let me view it without downloading it
[09:00] <Tenshu> sent :)
[09:01] <QueenVee> Tenshu: have you ever received or sent files via DCC before?
[09:01] <Tenshu> yeah
[09:01] <ArctiCWoLf> heh im local i got it in 10 secs
[09:02] <ArctiCWoLf> if u got good vid card ...view in full screen
[09:03] <Tenshu> ohh i just got a wave of hunger
[09:03] <Tenshu> i'll brb, in about 5 minutes. :)
[09:03] * yggdrasil has quit IRC (Read error to yggdrasil[sdn-ap-014caburbP0221.dialsprint.net]: Connection reset by peer)
[09:04] <QueenVee> Wolf: i just can't get it to work -- does it only work with Windows Media Player?
[09:05] <ArctiCWoLf> i dunno thats what i use
[09:06] <ArctiCWoLf> im down loading it now at 600k
[09:06] <ArctiCWoLf> sec
[09:06] <QueenVee> i think there's something wrong with my windows media player
[09:06] <ArctiCWoLf> i dcc it 2 u
[09:06] <ArctiCWoLf> get winamp
[09:07] <QueenVee> well, i have the document, i just can't open it
[09:07] <ArctiCWoLf> oh
[09:07] <ArctiCWoLf> do a properties on it
[09:07] <ArctiCWoLf> .asx file?
[09:07] <Dsarith> What video are we looking at??
[09:07] <ArctiCWoLf> northern
[09:07] <ArctiCWoLf> vid
[09:08] <ArctiCWoLf> good place to hide
[09:08] <Dsarith> Reading backwords sucks ... lol
[09:08] <QueenVee> it says Windows Media Audio/Video file
[09:08] <ArctiCWoLf> http://ekati.bhpbilliton.com/index.asp
[09:08] <Dsarith> Cool Thanks
[09:08] <ArctiCWoLf> mine says asx
[09:08] <QueenVee> alright, DCC that one to me
[09:09] <ArctiCWoLf> i live 200 kl's south of the diamond mines tiffany's opening a cutting an polishing plant here lots of jobs 1600 jobs in town now available
[09:09] <ArctiCWoLf> k Q
[09:10] <QueenVee> when is the planet opening?
[09:10] <QueenVee> plant, that is
[09:10] <Dsarith> Is that a slip :-)
[09:10] <Dsarith> May I think
[09:10] <ArctiCWoLf> next year 4 tiffanys
[09:10] <ArctiCWoLf> 1st  4 tiffanys
[09:11] <ArctiCWoLf> are u not getting dcc Q?
[09:12] <Dsarith> ArctiC: is this where you are working or will work
[09:12] <ArctiCWoLf> thers a nice boat up 4 action at the gov site i told ya about
[09:12] <Tenshu> back
[09:12] <ArctiCWoLf> im applying now 4 undergroud mechanical advisors job 75000 a year
[09:13] <ArctiCWoLf> aution
[09:13] <ArctiCWoLf> auction
[09:13] <Dsarith> Whats the cost of living up there... High?
[09:14] <ArctiCWoLf> i own a lot i bought from the city its cheap that way ...bot yes triple E trailers on a small lot go  for 180.000
[09:14] <QueenVee> try again, Wolf, i wasn't here to accept the file
[09:14] <ArctiCWoLf> k
[09:14] <QueenVee> okay, downloading now
[09:14] <ArctiCWoLf> heh zoooom
[09:15] <QueenVee> no, not zoom, it's downloading sloooooooooooooooooowly
[09:15] <ArctiCWoLf> i got an acre 4 29000
[09:15] <ArctiCWoLf> i put an old trailer 4 5000
[09:15] <Dsarith> That is expensive :-)
[09:15] <ArctiCWoLf> an now i will inprove it with gov home inprovement grant
[09:16] <ArctiCWoLf> its blast or fill here
[09:16] <Dsarith> You are a canadian citizen.. Yes?
[09:16] <ArctiCWoLf> i got both low an rock pre cambrian shield rock
[09:16] <ArctiCWoLf> born in montreal quebec
[09:16] <ArctiCWoLf> soooo ya
[09:17] <Tenshu> has anyone heard of those solar oven things?
[09:17] <ArctiCWoLf> yes
[09:17] <Tenshu> like you can use the sun's uv for cooking
[09:17] <ArctiCWoLf> an solar ice maker too
[09:17] <Dsarith> Isn't hard for foreign citizen to find good jobs there. Lots of rules and regulations
[09:17] <ArctiCWoLf> nope
[09:17] <Tenshu> ya i saw that on tv once and the people actually made it
[09:17] <ArctiCWoLf> there a way
[09:17] <QueenVee> Tenshu: have you ever received or sent files via DCC before?
[09:17] <Tenshu> yeah i have, queen
[09:17] <ArctiCWoLf> bhp will supply green card
[09:18] <ArctiCWoLf> we have an influx of armenian  polishers to teach locals
[09:18] <ArctiCWoLf> never seen jews up here before diamonds found lol
[09:18] <Tenshu> Queen: you want to send me something or is that just a general question? Hehe
[09:19] <QueenVee> just for future reference tenshu
[09:19] <Tenshu> alright :)
[09:19] <QueenVee> please ignore the following all, i'm just doing something here:
[09:19] <ArctiCWoLf> we have east indian population , filipinoes french newphies south africans ...areal melting pot
[09:20] <ArctiCWoLf> and local indians too
[09:20] <ArctiCWoLf> makes me wonder .... we have a good cross section og the worlds people here
[09:20] <ArctiCWoLf> og=of
[09:21] <Dsarith> Since I am a network Engineer and no nothing about mining so my starting salary would $10,000 a year :-)
[09:21] <QueenVee> BRB
[09:21] <Dsarith> know
[09:21] * QueenVee has left #poleshiftdiscussion (Left all channels)
[09:21] <ArctiCWoLf> no ..... we need comp guys like u 100,00+ a year no foolin
[09:21] <ArctiCWoLf> ill get url
[09:21] <Dsarith> Ok
[09:22] <ArctiCWoLf> most homes here have high speed
[09:22] <ArctiCWoLf> adsl an cable ,microwave
[09:22] <ArctiCWoLf> and 2way sat
[09:23] <ArctiCWoLf> 18,000 people 25000 japanese tourists a year
[09:24] <ArctiCWoLf> http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/Intro_en.asp
[09:24] * QueenVee has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[09:24] * ChanServ sets mode: +o QueenVee
[09:24] <ArctiCWoLf> http://www.gov.nt.ca/
[09:25] <Tenshu> weeee
[09:25] <QueenVee> Tenshu: okay, i'm going to DCC that log to you now
[09:25] <Tenshu> alright :)
[09:25] <Dsarith> That is general listing yes. What am I looking for?
[09:25] <ArctiCWoLf> your trade
[09:26] <QueenVee> there, that was easy
[09:26] <Tenshu> haha
[09:26] <Tenshu> tru that
[09:26] <QueenVee> okay, i'm going to be quiet for a bit cause i got some work to do, but i'm still here
[09:26] <ArctiCWoLf> go here
[09:27] <ArctiCWoLf> http://www.nnsl.com/jobs/jobs.html
[09:27] <ArctiCWoLf> did file work Q?
[09:28] <QueenVee> haven't tried it yet wolf
[09:29] <QueenVee> nope, still doesn't work. someting wrong with my Media Player, don't have time to fix it right now
[09:29] <ArctiCWoLf> ok
[09:29] <ArctiCWoLf> k
[09:32] <ArctiCWoLf> c-u all L8tr
[09:32] * ArctiCWoLf has quit IRC
[09:33] * Tenshu is now known as tenshu`afk
[09:36] <QueenVee> well, to anyone who's still here, i'm off to Toronto and won't be back until later this evening
[09:37] * QueenVee is now known as QV-AwayForDay
[09:37] * Lightspeed has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[09:38] <Dsarith> Hi Lightspeed
[09:38] <Lightspeed> Hi!
[09:38] <Lightspeed> I Just looked in.
[09:38] <Lightspeed> What are the news?
[09:47] * Monk has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[09:47] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Monk
[09:52] <Lightspeed> Hi Monk!
[09:52] <Lightspeed> What are the news?
[09:52] <Monk> hi
[09:52] <Monk> I dont know
[09:54] <Lightspeed> Don't you think, we are too many here today? :))
[09:55] <Monk> its early
[09:57] <Lightspeed> Where are you from?
[09:59] <Monk> california
[10:00] <Lightspeed> Woww! Sunny California!
[10:00] <Lightspeed> I am from Hungary
[10:02] <Monk> yea its sunny
[10:02] <Monk> its warm
[10:02] <Monk> and its nice over here
[10:02] <Monk> its great
[10:02] <Lightspeed> So, you have good weather.
[10:02] <Monk> gonna be under water soon
[10:02] <Monk> 2 days this week was raining
[10:03] <Monk> it rained like 4 days this year
[10:03] <Lightspeed> We had a sunny day here too, with temperature at freeze
[10:03] <Monk> I think
[10:03] <Monk> not sure
[10:03] <Lightspeed> But today was 5-10 celsius better, than yesterday.
[10:04] <Lightspeed> Yo, your crops?
[10:04] <Lightspeed> Failing this year?
[10:04] <Monk> yea i think the grape crops are
[10:05] <Monk> damn drought
[10:06] <Lightspeed> We had drought on the summer, and a century's flood at august.
[10:06] <Lightspeed> Nobody remembered fllod at august here
[10:06] <Monk> brb gonna take a smoke
[10:06] <Monk> of my marboo
[10:07] <Monk> marbro herbs
[10:07] <Monk> har har :)
[10:07] <Lightspeed> So you are polluting our air?
[10:07] <Lightspeed> :))
[10:07] <Monk> yea im contributing to global warming
[10:07] <Monk> I dont even drive a car
[10:07] <Monk> I take the bus :)
[10:08] <Monk> to much pollultion
[10:09] <Lightspeed> Yes. I take the bus, but we have so few in our town, so most times I go by foot.
[10:10] * inside-revolution has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[10:11] * obaway has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[10:11] * Guest has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[10:12] * Guest has quit IRC (Leaving)
[10:12] * tex-at-work has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[10:13] <Lightspeed> Hi Obany, Hi Tex!
[10:14] <tex-at-work> hi lightspeed
[10:14] <Lightspeed> What are the news?
[10:17] <tex-at-work> on phone
[10:19] <tex-at-work> i need to go... bbl
[10:19] * tex-at-work has quit IRC (Leaving)
[10:23] * RNTHOMAS has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[10:23] <Monk> hi
[10:23] <RNTHOMAS> Hey monk...
[10:23] <Monk> hows it going
[10:24] <RNTHOMAS> Not too bad...  Just thought I'd poke da nose in here, see how it's goin....
[10:26] <Lightspeed> By folks, I have some things to translate.
[10:26] * Lightspeed has left #poleshiftdiscussion
[10:28] * raincity is now known as raincityAFK
[10:29] <tenshu`afk> hey if anyone' sinterested, i have this site.. it's pretty cool
[10:29] <tenshu`afk> http://www.human.toyogakuen-u.ac.jp/~acmuller/contao/laotzu.htm
[10:38] * Retrieving #poleshiftdiscussion info...
[10:41] <RNTHOMAS> sure is quiet around here.
[10:42] * prety has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[10:43] <inside-revolution> http://www.lectoriumrosicrucianum.org/lrweb/bros.pdf is VERY important source of knowledge! Look if you are interested aout the goal of life!
[10:44] <inside-revolution> http://www.lectoriumrosicrucianum.org/lrweb/bros.pdf is VERY important source of knowledge! Look if you are interested about the goal of life!
[10:44] * prety has quit IRC
[10:46] <RNTHOMAS> A lectorium Rosicrucianum, a gnosztikus szellemi iskolak lancanak jelenleg utolso tagja azt a feladatot kapta korunkban, hogy a kereso emberekben felebressze az osemlekezest
[10:46] <RNTHOMAS> Yup makes sence to me...!
[10:47] * cmell has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[10:47] <RNTHOMAS> cmell how goes it.
[10:48] <inside-revolution> http://www.lectoriumrosicrucianum.org/english/documents/en_broch.pdf
[10:48] <cmell> hi
[10:48] <cmell> k
[10:48] <inside-revolution> it is better sorry :)
[10:48] <inside-revolution> in english
[10:48] <inside-revolution> http://www.lectoriumrosicrucianum.org/english/documents/en_broch_word60.doc
[10:48] <RNTHOMAS> It could help...
[10:48] <inside-revolution> or in doc format
[10:48] <cmell> you ?
[10:49] <inside-revolution> yes?
[10:49] <cmell> it was meant as a reply to rnt, but how are you inside ?
[10:49] <cmell> :)
[10:50] <inside-revolution> I am very fine :)
[10:50] <cmell> good
[10:51] <inside-revolution> just read http://www.lectoriumrosicrucianum.org/english/documents/en_broch_word60.doc
[10:51] <inside-revolution> did you read already it?
[10:51] <cmell> I'm working on install acrobat :)
[10:51] <cmell> installing
[10:51] <inside-revolution> it is possible in doc format too :)
[10:51] <cmell> I don't have word installed either :)
[10:51] * yggdrasil has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[10:51] <RNTHOMAS> The Doc file is kinda scary...
[10:52] <inside-revolution> can you read it fine?
[10:52] <inside-revolution> good letters?
[10:54] <RNTHOMAS> Yup... Just don't like opening DOC files over the net...
[10:54] <RNTHOMAS> PDF is much safer.
[10:54] <inside-revolution> I see, ok :)
[10:54] <inside-revolution> do you read it?
[10:55] <RNTHOMAS> MickeySlop Wierd (Microsoft word) when it opens a DOC file, tends to also open you up to virus's n trojan programs.
[10:56] <RNTHOMAS> So I get a little paranoid there...
[11:00] <RNTHOMAS> So I'd recommend PDFing that file...
[11:00] * HBO has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[11:00] <HBO> hey everyone
[11:00] <cmell> hey
[11:00] <RNTHOMAS> We're tryin to sleep here!
[11:00] <HBO> anything new happening?
[11:01] <RNTHOMAS> New IRC channel up n running, other then that nothin much.
[11:02] <HBO> what new channel?
[11:02] <RNTHOMAS> ZP & Tied made it, it's called #EarthChanges
[11:02] <HBO> anything different about the format?
[11:02] <RNTHOMAS> QV was happy to see it..
[11:03] <RNTHOMAS> Drat, I gotta run, meeting....
[11:03] <RNTHOMAS> brb l8r
[11:03] <HBO> see ya
[11:03] * RNTHOMAS is now known as RNTHOMAS-afk
[11:03] <RNTHOMAS-afk> I HATE MEETINGS THEY SUCK!
[11:05] <HBO> cmell, gotta run... going to Memphis today, then back to Indiana on Sat, so I'll see you guys at the Sat chat
[11:05] <cmell> later
[11:05] * gra has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[11:05] * HBO has left #poleshiftdiscussion
[11:07] * hkcal45 has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[11:08] <hkcal45> wanna  here something that sucks?
[11:08] <hkcal45> my B-day is in may
[11:08] <cmell> what
[11:08] <inside-revolution> http://www.lectoriumrosicrucianum.org/english/documents/en_broch.pdf
[11:08] <cmell> mine too
[11:08] <inside-revolution> here is the PDF file
[11:08] <cmell> :(
[11:08] <inside-revolution> version
[11:08] <cmell> inside I've just opened the file
[11:09] <cmell> Heckler & Kock caliber 45 ?
[11:09] <inside-revolution> read it carefully
[11:09] <inside-revolution> and try to understand
[11:09] <cmell> will
[11:09] <inside-revolution> and think about it
[11:09] <cmell> Heckler & Kock caliber 45  = hkcal45`?
[11:09] <hkcal45> hehe
[11:10] <cmell> are you a gun freak ?
[11:10] <cmell> :)
[11:11] <hkcal45> yup
[11:12] <cmell> is that your favorite ? :)
[11:12] <hkcal45> close but i gotta give some love to the 12 guages =p
[11:13] <cmell> how about some of the glock models ?
[11:14] <hkcal45> i dun like plastic guns =p
[11:14] <cmell> heh
[11:15] <hkcal45> 1 day itll jam up and blow up in ur face then w/e u shoot'n at is nice to get away
[11:16] <inside-revolution> what means soil?
[11:16] <inside-revolution> the word
[11:16] <inside-revolution> in engliah
[11:16] * gra has left #poleshiftdiscussion
[11:16] <cmell> earth
[11:17] <hkcal45> so u guys got any idea's on how to survie?
[11:17] <hkcal45> if worse comes to wrose i got my hk hollow points
[11:17] <cmell> get away from highly populated areas is one rule
[11:17] <hkcal45> loooks like i am a goner
[11:18] <hkcal45> i live in california
[11:18] <yggdrasil> hello fellow humans
[11:18] <cmell> get to high country is another rule
[11:18] <cmell> hey yggdrasil
[11:18] <hkcal45> it anything and water comes ill make somethin to float on
[11:18] <hkcal45> and fish with !
[11:18] <yggdrasil> cmell
[11:18] <cmell> yes
[11:19] <yggdrasil> thats what i never understood about titanic
[11:19] <cmell> well hkcal45 you cant fish with your gun, make it dynamite :)
[11:19] <yggdrasil> like i woulda been udner the deck tearing out any piece of wood i coulda got my hands on and lashing it together
[11:20] <inside-revolution> come to hungary!
[11:20] <yggdrasil> is that where you at inside?
[11:20] <inside-revolution> it will be the best place after the shift
[11:20] <cmell> well the water would be freezing ygg
[11:20] <yggdrasil> either way
[11:20] <yggdrasil> id still be flosting
[11:20] <inside-revolution> http://www.zetatalk.com/safelocs.pdf
[11:20] <inside-revolution> look it
[11:20] <yggdrasil> i would out like a chair
[11:20] <inside-revolution> Hungary is the best place
[11:20] <yggdrasil> and got some food from the kitchen
[11:20] <inside-revolution> but need to come in time
[11:20] <inside-revolution> because everybody will want to come here
[11:20] <cmell> be hungry in hungary :(
[11:20] <hkcal45> why doesn't or goverment come up with a soultion to stop it or make it go backwards
[11:21] <hkcal45> i mean gd we made A bombs and H bombs
[11:21] <hkcal45> even just get it off coruse
[11:21] <inside-revolution> not possible
[11:21] <cmell> yes well them damn thing is supposedly 4 times earth
[11:21] <yggdrasil> i think its got a little too much momentum
[11:21] <inside-revolution> planet is too big
[11:21] <hkcal45> how is it not possible?
[11:21] <inside-revolution> and we have no the right to use bomb anyway
[11:21] <hkcal45> i didnt say use bomb
[11:22] <yggdrasil> i say we go have sex with them
[11:22] <inside-revolution> universe council not allow use bomb
[11:22] <yggdrasil> thattl solve everthing
[11:22] <hkcal45> i just said make something wiith enuff power to repel it
[11:22] <inside-revolution> no
[11:22] <inside-revolution> we have power only to look inside
[11:22] <yggdrasil> i say we change its course to fall right into the sun
[11:22] <inside-revolution> and change our soul
[11:22] <inside-revolution> ans spirit
[11:22] <yggdrasil> would prob be the easiest thing
[11:22] <cmell> just ?
[11:23] <hkcal45> theres gotta be a way to get it off course
[11:23] <yggdrasil> bleh
[11:23] <yggdrasil> its hauling ass man and its big
[11:23] <hkcal45> so... dude there has to be away
[11:23] <yggdrasil> it takes 2 years to get to saturn
[11:23] <yggdrasil> or longer
[11:23] <inside-revolution> do not fight against Gd hkcal!
[11:23] <inside-revolution> it need to happen
[11:23] <inside-revolution> humanity need this lecture!
[11:23] <cmell> I think the odds for me becoming an angel is better than that plan hkcal45 :)
[11:24] <inside-revolution> if you will have real soul which live forever then you not need to fear if body will die
[11:24] <inside-revolution> only work for you to have soul which live
[11:25] <cmell> yeah I know, I was not referring to that :)
[11:25] <yggdrasil> what the shift2k2 website?
[11:25] <inside-revolution> transfiguration is much easier now
[11:25] <cmell> no what inside just said
[11:25] <inside-revolution> because of this happening
[11:25] <inside-revolution> it is a great oppurtinity for humanity!
[11:26] <yggdrasil> cmel
[11:26] <cmell> well it's also agreat calamity
[11:26] <yggdrasil> whats queens website?
[11:26] <inside-revolution> http://www.zetatalk.com/safelocs.pdf
[11:26] <inside-revolution> is about safe places
[11:27] <cmell> http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/
[11:28] <cmell> guys I have to be away for about 20-25 min
[11:28] <yggdrasil> liar
[11:28] <cmell> me ?
[11:29] * cmell is now known as cmellaway
[11:29] * hkcal45 has left #poleshiftdiscussion
[11:32] * punk0r has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[11:32] <punk0r> hey
[11:32] <punk0r> how am i gonna live
[11:32] <punk0r> !!!!!!
[11:32] <punk0r> am i gonna die
[11:33] * tex-at-work has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[11:33] <punk0r> hey tex
[11:33] <punk0r> am i gonna die or what?
[11:33] <tex-at-work> hi
[11:33] <punk0r> do you think i will?
[11:33] <tex-at-work> we all die sometime
[11:34] <tex-at-work> where do you live
[11:34] <punk0r> texas
[11:34] <tex-at-work> what part of texas
[11:34] <yggdrasil> i live in new mexico
[11:34] <punk0r> austin
[11:35] <tex-at-work> your going to have to leave austin
[11:35] <tex-at-work> ygg... how long have you been in new mexico
[11:35] <punk0r> were to
[11:35] <yggdrasil> all my life'
[11:36] <tex-at-work> are you near santa fe
[11:37] <yggdrasil> im in
[11:37] <yggdrasil> there
[11:37] <punk0r> were am i gonna live
[11:37] <punk0r> weree is it safe in texas
[11:37] <tex-at-work> punk... no place is going to be safe.. suggest you look at www.zetatalk.com for better place to live
[11:37] <yggdrasil> huh
[11:37] <punk0r> lol
[11:37] <punk0r> you peopel are stupid
[11:38] <yggdrasil> i am
[11:38] <punk0r> naah
[11:38] <punk0r> not like that
[11:38] <punk0r> you probly are very smart
[11:38] <punk0r> but ithink the idea is stupid
[11:38] <yggdrasil> im very not smart
[11:38] <punk0r> lol
[11:39] <tex-at-work> so why do you think this is all stupid punk
[11:40] <punk0r> well
[11:40] <punk0r> the world isnt gonna end
[11:40] <punk0r> why do you think that
[11:40] <tex-at-work> i don't think it's going to end
[11:40] <punk0r> there hasnt ever been a sign of it before
[11:41] * alex2221 has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[11:42] <punk0r> has there...
[11:43] <tex-at-work> yes
[11:43] <yggdrasil> there was a sign on the side of the road
[11:43] <yggdrasil> but a drunk driver ran over it
[11:43] <yggdrasil> and they never put it back up
[11:43] <punk0r> lol
[11:44] <yggdrasil> i swear man
[11:44] <punk0r> what was the sign
[11:44] <punk0r> ...
[11:46] <yggdrasil> it said um
[11:46] * alex2221 has quit IRC (OmegaScript at http://OmegaScript.up.co.il : Dad, what does "FORMATTING DRIVE C: 90% DONE" mean?)
[11:46] * cmellaway is now known as cmell
[11:46] <yggdrasil> it was like a planet crossing the road
[11:46] <yggdrasil> like a picture
[11:46] * ChanServ sets mode: +o cmell
[11:47] <punk0r> hey c
[11:47] <cmell> hey p
[11:47] <punk0r> how do you know this stuff
[11:48] <cmell> I stumbled on it a while back
[11:48] <punk0r> lol
[11:48] <cmell> how do you find this place ?
[11:49] <cmell> did
[11:49] <punk0r> the site
[11:49] <punk0r> but i dont feel like reading all that
[11:49] <cmell> yes, or the idea
[11:50] <cmell> then you shouldn't be here :)
[11:51] <punk0r> lol
[11:51] * punk0r has left #poleshiftdiscussion
[11:51] <cmell> damn, I wanted to kick the guy :)
[11:51] <tex-at-work> he needed it
[11:52] <cmell> yes
[11:52] <cmell> well hes gone now :)
[11:52] <tex-at-work> indeed
[12:16] * Guest has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[12:18] <Monk> hi
[12:18] <Monk> guest
[12:20] <cmell> hi
[12:22] * Zetapal has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[12:22] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Zetapal
[12:27] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O
[12:27] <Zetapal> We have recently heard Art Bell's first interview with Malachi Martin from 96. Some of the later interviews were more interesting regarding a poleshift.
[12:27] <Zetapal> I am still looking for the later interviews but here is a small clip of an interview from April 97. Listen to Dr.Martin answer Art Bell's question,"Why did the vatican build an observatory on Mt.Graham,Arizona." This is a small real player file - slightly low quality.
[12:28] <Zetapal> anybody who wants the clip, say so, and I'll DCC send you
[12:28] <cmell> so
[12:28] <Zetapal> ok cmel
[12:36] <Dsarith> Hi Zetapal. Can you send me that clip too?
[12:36] <yggdrasil> i need a paper clip
[12:36] <Dsarith> I have one on my desk, will that help?
[12:37] <cmell> we can't send that on the net yet yggdrasil :)
[12:38] <Zetapal> sure Dsarith
[12:38] <yggdrasil> ??
[12:38] <yggdrasil> u sure
[12:38] <cmell> yes uh I think
[12:38] <Dsarith> Hmmm what does yggdrasil know that we dont????
[12:39] <Zetapal> Dsarith - is this working?
[12:40] <Dsarith> I dont see anything :-)
[12:40] <Zetapal> ok
[12:40] <Zetapal> how about now?
[12:41] <Dsarith> Got it thanks
[12:41] <Zetapal> ok must be my machine thats filtering - rename the extension .ram Dsarith
[12:41] <cmell> :)
[12:42] <yggdrasil> i hate real audio
[12:42] <Dsarith> What kind of file is it
[12:42] <Dsarith> Ok
[12:42] <Dsarith> Got it
[12:42] <Zetapal> real audio file - .ram
[12:43] <Dsarith> Do not have real Audio on this cpu. Sending to my house. I will listen to it later :-
[12:43] <Dsarith> :-)
[12:43] <Dsarith> What is the jist of it
[12:45] <Zetapal> Catholic priest hints at the approach of pX as the reason for the Vatican building the observatory
[12:45] <Zetapal> news at 11
[12:47] <yggdrasil> funny other people that wouldnt be talking about it are talking about ittoday
[12:47] <yggdrasil> like in my satelite hacker channel people were discussing it
[12:48] <Zetapal> wow yggdrasil - interesting - did you mention this channel?
[12:48] <yggdrasil> yea idid
[12:49] <Zetapal> cool - if Queen doesn't want them there cause they are new, send em over to #EarthChanges - you can come over too
[12:49] <Dsarith> Thanks, sorry stepped away for sec
[12:49] <yggdrasil> oops
[12:49] <yggdrasil> too late
[12:49] <yggdrasil> haha
[12:50] <yggdrasil> i dont think anyones gonna come
[12:50] <tenshu`afk> i'm new and Queen was more than happy to welcome me :)
[12:51] <yggdrasil> dont think they are smart enough to have 2 ircs open at the same time ;)
[12:51] <yggdrasil> <duffBBL> ygg: thnx but we have better things to do then waste our time
[12:51] <Dsarith> Hey you are AFk... New means that you havent read anything on PXX
[12:51] <tenshu`afk> Ohh sry..
[12:51] <Zetapal> lol
[12:51] * tenshu`afk is now known as tenshu
[12:51] <yggdrasil> [13:53] <yggdrasil> liar
[12:52] <yggdrasil> ahh i guesse its time to close up this place
[12:52] <yggdrasil> and move on
[12:52] <yggdrasil> cyall
[12:52] * yggdrasil has quit IRC
[12:55] * Guest has quit IRC (Leaving)
[13:02] * kindred has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[13:02] <cmell> hello
[13:03] <kindred> hi
[13:03] <kindred> everyone alright today
[13:03] <Zetapal> Hi kindred
[13:03] <cmell> have you heard of the new channel #EarthChanges ?
[13:04] <kindred> zeta man how ya doin
[13:04] <kindred> earthchanges cool
[13:04] <Zetapal> good kindred
[13:05] * kindred has quit IRC (Leaving)
[13:28] <Dsarith> See Zetapal, you ran kindred off :-)
[13:29] <Zetapal> awww now how'd that happen :)
[13:29] <Zetapal> he was maybe leaving work
[13:29] <cmell> hehe
[13:29] <Zetapal> I think his home computer has an irc client not webchat
[13:33] * hush has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[13:33] * hush has left #poleshiftdiscussion
[13:36] * tied2 has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[13:42] * RNTHOMAS-afk is now known as RNTHOMAS
[13:45] <tenshu> have you guys been to the Taken official site?
[13:45] <cmell> I have
[13:46] <tenshu> what was that coalition called?
[13:46] <tenshu> i signed up on it.. i cant member what its called  
[13:46] <cmell> uuhh, me neither :( sorry
[13:47] <Zetapal> tenshu - I saved that series
[13:47] <Zetapal> in asf files
[13:47] <cmell> I ran into a wall when downloading episode 3 :(
[13:53] <tenshu> you did?
[13:53] <tenshu> i didn't get to see any of 'em :(
[13:53] <Zetapal> tenshu - do you have a fast connection?
[13:57] <cmell> I have a 256/128 adsl conn., you ?
[13:57] <tenshu> yeah i do, Zeta
[13:59] <Zetapal> tenshu - do you have 250 megs of spare space?
[13:59] <tenshu> yep yep
[14:00] <Zetapal> ok i will try sending you episode I and will see how it goes - it may be slow at first cause i got 2 other downloads goin on at same time for now plus local traffic but we will try ok?
[14:00] <tenshu> sounds good
[14:00] <tenshu> :)
[14:02] <tenshu> wow that's relaly slow
[14:03] <Zetapal> yeah soon as the others complete we should get 24 - 30 kps - but thats still kinda slow - cable modem here but its got traffic on it
[14:03] <Zetapal> I wonder if we connected to the same funnet server if it would speed things up?
[14:04] <tenshu> i'm not sure..
[14:04] <Zetapal> we might couls use Ralf's - very few people on it cause its not on the random funnet list
[14:05] <Zetapal> hold on let me try something - keep your eye on the speed im gonna free up my local traffic and see how that affects it...
[14:07] * gabesz_ has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[14:07] <Zetapal> no effect
[14:11] * gabesz_ has left #poleshiftdiscussion
[14:11] <cmell> later guys
[14:11] * cmell has left #poleshiftdiscussion
[14:13] * DRGREEN has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[14:15] <obaway> green
[14:15] <obaway> dokter groen :P
[14:16] * DRGREEN has left #poleshiftdiscussion
[14:31] * Dsarith has quit IRC
[14:34] * johnny has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[14:34] <johnny> hi all
[14:36] <obaway> hi
[14:37] <johnny> wicked weather again today
[14:37] <obaway> in de USA?
[14:38] <johnny> Yes, tornadoes ripped through missippi. out of season
[14:39] <obaway> mmmm
[14:40] <johnny> Ive noticed even the weatherman are starting to say how unsual the weather is becoming
[14:40] * obaway is now known as obany
[14:42] <johnny> of course they blame global warming, but the million dollar question is whatis causing global warming? We know the answer
[14:42] <obany> i agree
[14:43] <johnny> Obany, where are you at
[14:43] <Monk> air pollution ?
[14:43] <obany> Netherlands
[14:43] <johnny> cool
[14:45] <obany> but not safe
[14:45] <johnny> Monk, not air pollution, niburu is heating the core, which in turn is heating the atmosphere
[14:46] <johnny> obany, any unsual weather there
[14:47] <Monk> well there is alot of air pollution
[14:47] <obany> for years now it's not as it used to be, no real winters anymore .. so yes i could say it's unusual
[14:48] <johnny> monk, sure is but how is that causing the planet to heat up
[14:48] <Monk> causing holes in the ozone layer
[14:48] <Monk> greenhouse affect
[14:49] <johnny> monk, do really beleive that, or is it more likely what the zetas say is true
[14:50] <johnny> just curious
[14:50] <Monk> I dont know what the zetas say about the holes in the ozone layer
[14:50] <johnny> johnny away for a bit
[14:57] <johnny> monk, where you from
[14:58] * cmell has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[14:58] * ChanServ sets mode: +o cmell
[14:58] <johnny> whats upcmell
[14:59] <cmell> nothin' much
[14:59] <johnny> hear about the the crazy weather today, tornadoes in missipi
[15:00] <cmell> yes
[15:00] <johnny> out of season, and intense
[15:00] <cmell> yes I read that story
[15:27] * Disconnected
[15:27] * Attempting to rejoin channel #poleshiftdiscussion
[15:27] * Rejoined channel #poleshiftdiscussion
[15:27] * Topic is 'Chat room for those who seriously consider www.ZetaTalk.com and wish to discuss lead-up events and preparation for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime. Others please read site for basic info and/or join #EarthChanges for more general poleshift/PX chat.'
[15:27] * Set by ChanServ on Wed Dec 18 17:13:28
[15:27] -ChanServ- (#poleshiftdiscussion) Welcome to the SHIFT2003 CHAT ROOM (http://shift2003.kgmweb.com) Moderator: QueenVee59@hotmail.com
[15:27] <inkpen> hi raincity
[15:27] <cmell> I asked Queen if I could help
[15:27] * raincity is now known as raincityAFK
[15:27] <cmell> hey rain
[15:27] <raincityAFK> hey
[15:27] <frostinchik> hi
[15:28] * ChanServ sets mode: +o inkpen
[15:28] <raincityAFK> I'm busy playing ElderScrolls 3
[15:28] * Oliver is now known as tied2
[15:28] <inkpen> ah! i still havent done my christmas shopping!
[15:28] <inkpen> hello tied2
[15:28] <cmell> ink I think I have been opped last time I saw you :)
[15:28] <inkpen> is oliver your real name?
[15:28] <tied2> Hi inky :-)
[15:28] <tied2> no
[15:29] <cmell> twist
[15:29] <inkpen> ok cmel
[15:29] <cmell> hehe
[15:29] <cmell> np
[15:30] <inkpen> brb the cat has warned me that the pot of water has come to a boil :)
[15:31] <cmell> hhmmm talking cat
[15:33] <inkpen> he is always asking me for cigars :) lol
[15:33] <cmell> lol
[15:33] <inkpen> mmm mac and chease
[15:34] <cmell> ahh, so it was not the cat, but the mac :)
[15:38] * Ptomais has quit IRC (Leaving)
[15:42] * Looking up obany user info...
[15:49] * BoY has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[15:49] <frostinchik> ok-i'm approximating here-we're around 1800-2000ft above sea lvl according to  data
[15:50] <cmell> that sounds good frost :)
[15:51] <frostinchik> that's what i thought but like i said-newbie!
[15:51] <cmell> how far from the nearest coastline ?
[15:52] <BoY> i think i'm beginning to see that the closer px gets the more price of gold, the aunnaki like gold
[15:52] <frostinchik> i guess everyone needs assurances when they first find out the news
[15:52] <frostinchik> 400 miles or so
[15:53] <cmell> ok, you should be ok there, but don't take my word for it :(
[15:54] * RNTHOMAS has quit IRC (Jog jog...)
[15:54] <frostinchik> hey, nobody from our world knows for sure
[15:55] <cmell> no, you're right of course :(
[15:55] <frostinchik> sigh
[15:56] * jed has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[15:57] <jed> hi
[15:57] * jed has quit IRC (Leaving)
[15:59] <frostinchik> well,that was a quick trip
[16:04] * cwtan has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[16:04] <obany> hi
[16:04] <cmell> hi
[16:06] * cwtan has quit IRC (Leaving)
[16:06] <cmell> hhmm deja vu  ?
[16:06] <frostinchik> seriously
[16:07] <cmell> brb
[16:07] * tied2 is now known as tied2-away
[16:08] * Monk has quit IRC
[16:08] * Monk has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[16:08] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Monk
[16:08] <cmell> hey monk
[16:09] <Monk> hey cmell
[16:10] <Monk> channel #god  is booming!
[16:10] <tenshu> that was weird
[16:10] <tenshu> a husky came to my door, looked at me then walked off
[16:11] * inside-revolution has quit IRC
[16:11] <BoY> was it hungry
[16:12] <tenshu> i'm not sure
[16:12] <tenshu> my dog was freakin out th
[16:13] * tex-away is now known as from_Texas
[16:16] <frostinchik> later all
[16:17] * frostinchik has quit IRC (Leaving)
[16:22] * sleth has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[16:22] * sleth has quit IRC (Leaving)
[16:23] * GayFDoe27 has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[16:24] * obany goes now bye bye
[16:24] * obany bye
[16:24] <GayFDoe27> umm bye
[16:24] <GayFDoe27> hello everyone.
[16:25] * Az has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[16:25] * raincityAFK is now known as raincity
[16:25] <raincity> hey there
[16:25] <GayFDoe27> hey
[16:26] <GayFDoe27> there aren't many people chatting tonight, huh?
[16:26] <obany> not realy it's quiet
[16:26] <obany> and well time for me to go to bed
[16:26] <GayFDoe27> i guess i scared everyone away
[16:26] <obany> so nite
[16:26] <GayFDoe27> LoL
[16:26] <raincity> night.
[16:26] <BoY> lol
[16:27] <GayFDoe27> goodnight
[16:27] <obany> thnx
[16:27] * obany has quit IRC (bye goodnight take care sleep well welterusten)
[16:27] <raincity> I don't think anything new is going on...so little discussion.
[16:28] <GayFDoe27> why did the topic #poleshiftdiscussion change.  it used to say May 2003 and Aftertime?
[16:28] <BoY> geesh, i don't know
[16:28] * Ogmios has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[16:28] <GayFDoe27> maybe THEY aren't sure...?
[16:28] <BoY> may be
[16:28] <BoY> lol
[16:29] <BoY> 1 guess is as good as another
[16:30] <GayFDoe27> i reading up on a few troubled times discussions and one topic was about how the coordinates for PX seemed to be false and misguiding.
[16:30] <GayFDoe27> *i was*
[16:30] <BoY> yes read entire article then u'll understand
[16:31] <GayFDoe27> you know, for anybody, i can see how people can be skeptics and disbelieving about ZetaTalk, but for some reason about no matter how much of a Hoax ZetaTalk may seem to others, i know deep down inside its actually REAL.
[16:31] * Retrieving #poleshiftdiscussion info...
[16:31] <tenshu> just gotta see things for yourself
[16:32] <BoY> to each there own i say
[16:32] <tenshu> and not rely on what other people tell you.. just go with your feelings
[16:32] <tenshu> yep
[16:32] <tenshu> to each their own.
[16:32] <GayFDoe27> you're always going to have pro's and con's on both sides of any subject matter
[16:32] <tenshu> aye
[16:32] <tenshu> just like good and evil
[16:32] <BoY> time will tell
[16:32] <GayFDoe27> exactly
[16:32] <BoY> & time isn't real
[16:32] <BoY> lol
[16:32] <GayFDoe27> i know
[16:33] <GayFDoe27> time is discieving
[16:33] * LeXar has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[16:33] <raincity> my gut feelings tell me that Zetatalk is real.
[16:33] <GayFDoe27> its a manipulation of some kind
[16:33] <tenshu> haha then just go with it
[16:33] <LeXar> well hello cyber neighbors
[16:33] <tenshu> dont' worry bout what'll happen tomorrow
[16:33] <tenshu> just go wit it
[16:33] <BoY> well there's an option to error on side of safety ,just in case,if u know what i mean
[16:33] <tenshu> well yea
[16:34] <cmell> so Gay what brings you here
[16:34] <cmell> ?
[16:35] <GayFDoe27> Poleshift discussions of course
[16:35] <tenshu> omg
[16:35] <tenshu> this video is upside down
[16:35] <Monk> hey gay!
[16:35] <GayFDoe27> and may be some other ZT topics to be talked about
[16:35] <BoY> i just stocked up on neem to store for pole shift after times
[16:35] <GayFDoe27> i work at a supermarket
[16:36] <BoY> do u get discount for groceries
[16:36] <cmell> yes what do you believe Gay ?
[16:36] <GayFDoe27> things couldn't have turned out so perfectly for me because when early spring through the summer comes i will be well stocked.
[16:36] <LeXar> well I've prepared more for defense, thats the task I have in my group
[16:36] <GayFDoe27> i don't have a group, yet
[16:37] <BoY> how many r in your group
[16:37] <BoY> i am a loner
[16:37] <GayFDoe27> people who know will come to me for help because they will know i know since i have been talking about space, aliens, and any other paranormal aspects to them for over 6 years now
[16:37] <tenshu> i have people in a group
[16:37] <cmell> ok that sounds nice for you, I hope you'r sufficiently hidden
[16:37] <GayFDoe27> people mostly in my school i mean
[16:38] <GayFDoe27> but for now, i am as alone with this as one could ever be.
[16:38] <tenshu> crap
[16:38] <GayFDoe27> :-\
[16:38] <tenshu> how you fix a movie on winamp
[16:38] <tenshu> that's upside down
[16:38] <BoY>  u have school buddies preparing with?
[16:38] <cmell> I would like to know that too tenshu
[16:39] <cmell> I switched to realone player instead
[16:39] <GayFDoe27> non of my school buddies actually believe what i saying about THIS
[16:39] <BoY> oh
[16:39] <GayFDoe27> i haven't really talked about it much because I doing my best to gather as much information through ZT and TT as I can.
[16:40] <GayFDoe27> then when i do talk to others about it, i am of course going to tell about the websites TT and ZT so it doesn't look like i am a supposed total crazed idiot.
[16:40] <Az> its good to hear ppl are preparing
[16:41] <Az> when its too late its too late
[16:41] <cmell> and thats not easy GayFDoe27
[16:41] <GayFDoe27> exactly
[16:41] <GayFDoe27> i know it isn't
[16:41] * Looking up Az user info...
[16:41] <cmell> I know because I tried, and failed :(
[16:42] <GayFDoe27> i have dealt with disbelievers since i first emerged with this gift i know i have for sure.  i try telling people and proving people right, but in most certain times, THEY still don't believe me. :-\
[16:42] * superzod has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[16:42] <cmell> hi zod
[16:43] <superzod> hi ceme;
[16:43] <superzod> opps..sorry slip of keyboard
[16:43] <cmell> np
[16:44] <superzod> anything interesting
[16:44] <cmell> nah
[16:44] <BoY> what gift
[16:44] <GayFDoe27> THEY all mock me and scoff at me, thinking i am a nut-case, with no sense in the world.  yet they are the ones who are truly blind, why i know deep down inside my heart i know what i know as truth no matter what.
[16:44] <superzod> Gay, what are people mocking you about
[16:45] <GayFDoe27> for over 6 years now
[16:45] <GayFDoe27> this gift i behold
[16:45] <GayFDoe27> as in powers; strong intuition, whatever you may call it
[16:45] <superzod> What gift, i just joined gthe discussion
[16:45] <GayFDoe27> i tell people as i would tell anyone
[16:45] <BoY> intuition
[16:45] <GayFDoe27> but i have learned people aren't very trust worthy
[16:46] <superzod> oh! someone fill me in with what you guys talking about
[16:46] <GayFDoe27> so for the last year or so, i have just kept to myself about what i know and about who i think i truly am.
[16:47] <GayFDoe27> we're pretty much talking about how you try to tell disbelievers about the poleshifts or anything else and how no matter what kind of proof you give to THEM, they still won't believe you or they will still think of you as a crazed-nut case
[16:47] <BoY> yes most prople don't belive px story as the norm day to day is what they know
[16:47] <BoY> they have future plans
[16:47] <GayFDoe27> most people have to be ignorant then
[16:47] <BoY> lol
[16:48] <GayFDoe27> can't they see the changes going on
[16:48] <GayFDoe27> with the government
[16:48] <GayFDoe27> with nature
[16:48] <BoY> many have not stumble across px / pole shift story
[16:48] <GayFDoe27> mostly nature and horrible weather/earth patterns
[16:48] <BoY> so they don't have a clue
[16:48] <cmell> they pull a nelson on everything
[16:49] <raincity> people are in denial of the changes...but they are happening.
[16:49] <raincity> People are also kept so busy with day to day stuff.
[16:50] <raincity> They don't have time to notice.
[16:50] <cmell> yes they don't see
[16:50] <BoY> they trust in tv news
[16:50] <cmell> but also if they have a little time, they put the binocular before the blind eye :(
[16:50] * Looking up Az user info...
[16:50] <GayFDoe27> with someone like me, i am always oberserving through much mental mazes and i do my best to make sure i see the truth.
[16:51] * Looking up Az user info...
[16:51] <GayFDoe27> lately i have been asking for signs and such
[16:51] <GayFDoe27> and i have been getting them
[16:51] <GayFDoe27> so there is no denial for me
[16:51] <cmell> yes but your kind is rare Gay
[16:51] <BoY> i was told if i can help ,, help,, otherwize get outta the way
[16:52] <LeXar> boy, to what are you reffering to?
[16:52] <BoY> helping
[16:52] <GayFDoe27> that is so true
[16:52] <GayFDoe27> because i am always stuck in the middle of situatiosn
[16:52] <GayFDoe27> i rarely choose sides
[16:53] <cmell> I'm still in the midst of getting myself together :(
[16:53] <superzod> GAY...who you communication with (when you ask for signs etc)
[16:53] <BoY> there's an ole saying let the dead bury the dead
[16:53] <GayFDoe27> for a scientific metaphore, i would be considered cappillary when it comes to connecting a vein and an artery
[16:54] <GayFDoe27> my spelling was a bit messed up there, but thats because i am in some distress tonight. :-\
[16:54] <cmell> :(
[16:54] <GayFDoe27> when i ask for signs
[16:54] <GayFDoe27> i usually refer to what i know as god
[16:54] <cmell> so you are religious ?
[16:54] <raincity> what distress are you in?
[16:54] <GayFDoe27> i usually, what most people call it, pray to god and i get the signs, most of the time unexpectedly.
[16:55] <GayFDoe27> not entirely
[16:55] <cmell> ok
[16:55] <GayFDoe27> i am not religious in any form, yet i take much truth when it comes to good versus evil.
[16:55] <raincity> Then you are "spiritual".
[16:55] <GayFDoe27> i would like to believe i am on the good side, but you never know, the dark side can be very decieving.
[16:56] <cmell> I don't mind ppl being religious, just as long as they respect my ateism as well :)
[16:56] <GayFDoe27> i am as spiritual as i can be based on my daily schedule of life.
[16:57] <GayFDoe27> i am only an 18 years old.  sometimes i feel like i am an 18 year old, stuck in a 50 year old body.
[16:57] <cmell> I'm still trying to become spiritual, but it takes some time ...
[16:58] <GayFDoe27> with saying that i am 18, i have much to live for.
[16:58] * Az has quit IRC (Leaving)
[16:58] <GayFDoe27> so many vast places to explore and travel to.
[16:59] <GayFDoe27> with the poleshifts in mind, it seems like i am living for today more than ever because its almost of if there might not be a tomorrow for me, yet i know there is, for atleast 40 years or so.
[17:00] <cmell> good for you GFD
[17:00] * Az has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[17:00] <cmell> what happened Az ?
[17:01] <GayFDoe27> i have a future, i know where my life lies, and for now, my motivation and determination yearns to reach above and beyond the sky; to the Stars.
[17:01] <Az> actually monk showed me how to be in a few places at once so i was trying
[17:02] <cmell> I myself is not sure, if I'm going to stay and help out (and die), or save myself and help the survivors ???
[17:02] <cmell> ok Az
[17:02] <Az> cmell whats going on
[17:02] <GayFDoe27> it isn't too late to find out your true self
[17:03] <GayFDoe27> even if you do feel confused and frustrated, there is light at the end of the trail for everyone good-hearted in any way.
[17:03] <BoY> i am a mere mortal
[17:03] <cmell> well I know who I am, I just don't know what to do :(
[17:03] <raincity> ...tase the dark side.
[17:03] <raincity> taste, that is.
[17:03] <LeXar> <GayFDoe27>   have you ever considered jogging each day
[17:03] <LeXar> you get less abused by never ending queries
[17:03] <cmell> were talking orientation, and motivation Az
[17:03] <GayFDoe27> well i do my best to keep in shape
[17:03] <GayFDoe27> so i know how that is
[17:04] <LeXar> har har, well that makes to of us
[17:04] <Az> i see thanks cmell
[17:04] <GayFDoe27> constant battles against yourself to keep on moving and going no matter what
[17:04] <LeXar> im in the tenth best runners of the Province of Quebec, event ho I'm American
[17:04] <LeXar> :P
[17:04] <GayFDoe27> wow
[17:04] <GayFDoe27> thats great
[17:04] <cmell> nice
[17:04] <GayFDoe27> yet, i haven't been running much, so i would be of no match to you.
[17:04] <Az> yeah thats too good
[17:06] <GayFDoe27> yet i know i can probably play you all real well in a game of american football, which doesn't mean i am all for the rough and toughness of it.  i don't like to compete all the time and i hate the terms and ways used when captolism is in effect.
[17:06] <LeXar> I tell you guys what... I am STO but I lived with a recked man for eight years... I fled his evil way of living, but I still hold some of his bad caracteristics.. deceivingly enough, that man is my dad
[17:06] <LeXar> Gay, you'd be surprised
[17:07] <GayFDoe27> ha ha
[17:07] <LeXar> I'm a 2 year rugby vet, we played without equipment hehe :D
[17:07] <Monk> gay your tuff
[17:07] <cmell> That sounds bad LeXar
[17:07] <GayFDoe27> i played in the ice-snow once
[17:07] <LeXar> me too
[17:07] <LeXar> it's hell
[17:07] <GayFDoe27> it was awesome
[17:07] <GayFDoe27> fun stuff
[17:07] <GayFDoe27> i'll never forget the day
[17:08] <LeXar> seeing legs and arms flip all around you while your almost running out of harms way to score a goal at the risk of breaking something
[17:08] <GayFDoe27> thats when i started to really enjoy the cold winter weather over warm summer weather
[17:08] <LeXar> yeah I do recall being a fine tuned athletic machine... but my aggression decreased when I moved away from my father
[17:08] <LeXar> I feel like I once was...
[17:09] <LeXar> hey guys... we ain't at all reffering to the main focus of this channel
[17:09] <GayFDoe27> yeah, i know how that is.  my days of playing football on an organized level is gone for now, but it will be back in due, much anticipated time.
[17:09] * Az has quit IRC
[17:09] <GayFDoe27> sorry
[17:09] <LeXar> bah,
[17:09] <LeXar> nothing else is said
[17:09] <GayFDoe27> i'll let you proceed with your discussion LeXar
[17:09] <LeXar> why bother stopping?
[17:09] <LeXar> I was teasing you my friend
[17:09] * Mugada has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[17:09] <Monk> hi mugada
[17:10] <GayFDoe27> i think i know where you're coming from when it comes to saying you are fleeing the evils of your father.
[17:10] <cmell> hi mug
[17:10] <Mugada> G'day all
[17:10] <LeXar> athletic aptitudes will be a key element in my survival plans
[17:10] <LeXar> Gay, mind handing me in some more details
[17:10] <GayFDoe27> i think the same holds for me too
[17:11] <Mugada> me three
[17:11] <cmell> :)
[17:12] <LeXar> Gay where you at right now?
[17:12] <LeXar> where are you located?
[17:12] * QV-AwayForDay has quit IRC (SanAntonio.TX.US.FunNet.Org SanJose.CA.US.FunNet.Org)
[17:12] * Ralf-ZzZz has quit IRC (SanAntonio.TX.US.FunNet.Org SanJose.CA.US.FunNet.Org)
[17:12] * Zetapal-AFK has quit IRC (SanAntonio.TX.US.FunNet.Org SanJose.CA.US.FunNet.Org)
[17:12] * inkpen has quit IRC (SanAntonio.TX.US.FunNet.Org SanJose.CA.US.FunNet.Org)
[17:12] * GayFDoe27 has quit IRC (SanAntonio.TX.US.FunNet.Org SanJose.CA.US.FunNet.Org)
[17:13] <cmell> netsplit ?
[17:13] <raincity> oops.
[17:13] <Monk> super!
[17:13] <Monk> anyone wanna mess with me ?
[17:14] <Monk> debunkers?
[17:14] <Monk> ill ban you
[17:15] <LeXar> hun?
[17:15] <LeXar> what are you babbling about monk?
[17:15] <LeXar> :)
[17:16] <raincity> I haven't seen any debunkers in a long time.  I think they all gave up.
[17:17] <Monk> we won the battle not the war
[17:18] <raincity> They have nothing to go on.
[17:18] * DoloresE has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[17:18] <Monk> sure they do
[17:18] <cmell> hello dolorese
[17:19] <DoloresE> hello cmell
[17:19] <DoloresE> and everyone
[17:19] <DoloresE> hows it all going
[17:20] <cmell> ok, but the future looks bleak :(
[17:20] <DoloresE> yes .... i heard it was spotted good this time
[17:20] <Monk> when did it get spoted?
[17:21] <DoloresE> just over the past few days Monk
[17:21] * Looking up DoloresE user info...
[17:21] <Monk> any pics?
[17:21] <cmell> yes plenty, but jpegs, not yet
[17:21] <DoloresE> yes
[17:21] <Monk> wheee?
[17:21] <Monk> where?
[17:21] <cmell> are there
[17:22] <cmell> ?
[17:22] <Monk> i will make jpegs for u
[17:22] <cmell> ok
[17:23] <DoloresE> has queen been around
[17:23] <Monk> shes gone all day sorry
[17:23] <DoloresE> thanks monk
[17:23] * superzod has quit IRC (Ping timeout for superzod[host217-39-91-113.in-addr.btopenworld.com])
[17:24] <cmell> not while I have been here, and I arrived 1830hours
[17:24] <cmell> thats UTC+1
[17:25] <DoloresE> i haven't been on here for days ... was just wondering how everyone was doing
[17:26] <Monk> Im doing great thanks for asking
[17:26] <Monk> how are you ?
[17:27] <DoloresE> guess I doing ok monk ... been very busy with work and trying to get ready for the holidays
[17:27] <DoloresE> plus babysitting for grandson inbetween
[17:27] <Monk> hope your have a great christmas
[17:28] <DoloresE> hope we all have a grand xmas Monk
[17:28] <DoloresE> I know one thing ... I am going to make this holiday a grand one to remember
[17:29] * raincity is now known as raincityAFK
[17:29] <DoloresE> it just may be the last one ... as things used to be ... know what I mean
[17:30] <Monk> yea
[17:30] <cmell> Merry Christsmas All o<|:)
[17:30] <DoloresE> I don't mean to sound gloomy .... its just this awful inner feeling I have been having
[17:30] <LeXar> mine will be something to forget
[17:30] <Monk> merry xmas cmell
[17:31] <Monk> my whole family will be here almost
[17:31] <cmell> me too dolorese
[17:31] <LeXar> the one thing I want the most is to spend as much time as possible in the US before the Pole shift....
[17:31] <Monk> at least on my dads side
[17:31] <LeXar> Canada ain't comparable
[17:31] <LeXar> but my allies for this crisis are established in quebec
[17:31] <cmell> hhmmm
[17:32] <DoloresE> LeXar... you are in quebec
[17:32] <cmell> you still have a few months
[17:32] <LeXar> at this moment, I am
[17:32] <LeXar> I'm originally from Troy, NY
[17:32] <LeXar> yeah...
[17:32] <DoloresE> I know where that is ...
[17:33] <DoloresE> why north of me
[17:33] <DoloresE> way
[17:33] <LeXar> It's a pity I wont be able to do some ski jet anymore... it was a delightful hobby
[17:33] <LeXar> were do you come from D?
[17:33] <cmell> hmm
[17:33] <DoloresE> southeastern corner of Pennsylvania
[17:34] <cmell> It's a pity I wont be able to ski anymore
[17:34] <cmell> :(
[17:34] <DoloresE> hows is that cmell
[17:34] <Monk> snow ski ?
[17:34] <DoloresE> no snow
[17:34] <cmell> yes
[17:34] <Monk> climb the mountian
[17:34] <DoloresE> lol
[17:34] <cmell> snow slalom
[17:34] <LeXar> bah
[17:35] <cmell> I don't have money for this season
[17:35] <cmell> bah what ?
[17:35] <DoloresE> you'll have to go where the snow is .... in the future
[17:35] <Monk> yea
[17:35] <LeXar> I really wonder what will be my groups reaction when we will meet with an other group of survivors after the Pole Shift..
[17:35] <Monk> we can go on a trip to find snow where u gonna be after the shift
[17:35] <cmell> there'll be no snow there
[17:35] <LeXar> hehhe, I'm going were the heat is, I've got a long way to go
[17:35] <cmell> or it'll be dangerous
[17:36] <cmell> sweden will be hot
[17:36] <cmell> close to the new equator
[17:36] <DoloresE> does anyone know just how much of a shift the earth will take and in what direction
[17:36] * GayFDoe27 has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[17:36] <cmell> around 90 degrees
[17:36] <GayFDoe27> back
[17:37] <DoloresE> 90 degrees  .... are you sure
[17:37] <Monk> hey gay
[17:37] * az has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[17:37] <DoloresE> hello gay
[17:37] <cmell> the coast of brazil will be one pole, and india will be another
[17:37] <DoloresE> wooooooo
[17:37] <GayFDoe27> hey hey
[17:37] <cmell> hye
[17:37] <cmell> oops
[17:37] <cmell> hey
[17:37] <LeXar> Dolo,you live on the east coast?
[17:38] <DoloresE> yes I do ...LeXar
[17:38] <GayFDoe27> i live in the north east
[17:38] <DoloresE> Pa   ..... Gay
[17:38] * az is now known as slether
[17:38] <GayFDoe27> near new york city, which could very well be the worst place to live during the poleshifts.
[17:39] <DoloresE> southeastern corner of Pa. here ... gay
[17:39] <GayFDoe27> but i will be gone by July 1st, to persue my future in the United States Air Force.
[17:39] <DoloresE> not a good place to be ....
[17:40] <cmell> rule #1 don't be in highly populated areas
[17:40] <GayFDoe27> i feel bad for my mom and dad, cause they will still be living here.
[17:40] <GayFDoe27> :-\
[17:40] <cmell> :(
[17:40] <DoloresE> there may be no USAF in july ... gay
[17:40] <GayFDoe27> but my dad knows much, so i believe they will be okay and well off
[17:41] <GayFDoe27> who knows
[17:41] <GayFDoe27> but i know that is my future
[17:41] <cmell> I'll most propably loose my entire family :(
[17:41] * Zetapal has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[17:41] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Zetapal
[17:41] <GayFDoe27> i have forseen it
[17:41] <cmell> ok Yoda
[17:41] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O
[17:41] <DoloresE> good luck to you ... gay
[17:41] <GayFDoe27> it will come true, so i doubt the USAF will turn out in shambles.
[17:41] <GayFDoe27> thanks
[17:41] <tenshu> zetapal i got the movie :)
[17:41] <cmell> or should I say ok my master
[17:42] <tenshu> ty so much
[17:42] * butch has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[17:42] <Zetapal> tenshu - I saw - have you previewed the quality?
[17:42] <DoloresE> hello butch
[17:42] <butch> yo
[17:42] <tenshu> yeah the quality is fine
[17:42] <tenshu> i'm watchin it right now :)
[17:42] * BoY has quit IRC (achoo. bye,)
[17:42] <cmell> hey butch
[17:42] <Zetapal> it could be better but not too bad
[17:42] <Zetapal> oh cool
[17:43] <GayFDoe27> do you think of this as weird/sign-like?
[17:43] <GayFDoe27> last night
[17:43] <GayFDoe27> ...
[17:43] <DoloresE> ??
[17:43] <DoloresE> what happened last night
[17:43] <GayFDoe27> i woke up 3 different times, with 3 different dreams, that were all connected to eachother
[17:43] <GayFDoe27> each time i woke up
[17:43] <cmell> strange
[17:44] <GayFDoe27> i heard knocking at my room door
[17:44] <butch> what were the dreams about?
[17:44] <GayFDoe27> the first time i yelled so loud when i woke up, i think i woke up everyone in my house
[17:44] * QV-AwayForDay has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[17:44] * Zetapal-AFK has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[17:44] * inkpen has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[17:44] * Ralf-ZzZz has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[17:44] * SanJose.CA.US.FunNet.Org sets mode: +ooo QV-AwayForDay Zetapal-AFK inkpen
[17:44] <cmell> hhmm
[17:44] <inkpen> wtf?
[17:44] <GayFDoe27> one was about me being abducted by aliens
[17:44] <cmell> wb guys
[17:44] <inkpen> what happened?
[17:44] <GayFDoe27> another was about me driving around in my car being chased by the government or something like that
[17:45] <Zetapal> If any of you guys want either of Nancy Leider's interviews with Art Bell - let me know and I will DCC it to you.
[17:45] <butch> hmmm...i've had sleepless nights recently...but they were mostly about me missing my wife...we are separated now...
[17:45] <GayFDoe27> and then my last dream dealt with me being in school, but in a parallel dimension
[17:45] <GayFDoe27> Earth 2 i believe
[17:45] <cmell> heh
[17:45] <butch> i remember that series...
[17:45] * Zetapal-AFK has quit IRC (Ping timeout for Zetapal-AFK[c-24-125-50-96.va.client2.attbi.com])
[17:45] <cmell> yeah earth 2
[17:45] <Zetapal> > If any of you guys want either of Nancy Leider's interviews with Art Bell - let me know and I will DCC it to you.
[17:46] <GayFDoe27> the weird part about it, was the fact that everytime i woke up, i heard loud, clear knocking at my door.
[17:46] <inkpen> what was this?
[17:46] <inkpen> * ChanServ has quit IRC (SanJose.CA.US.FunNet.Org SanAntonio.TX.US.FunNet.Org)
[17:46] <inkpen> * tenshu has quit IRC (SanJose.CA.US.FunNet.Org SanAntonio.TX.US.FunNet.Org)
[17:46] <inkpen> * tied2-away has quit IRC (SanJose.CA.US.FunNet.Org SanAntonio.TX.US.FunNet.Org)
[17:46] <inkpen> * raincity has quit IRC (SanJose.CA.US.FunNet.Org SanAntonio.TX.US.FunNet.Org)
[17:46] <inkpen> * BoY has quit IRC (SanJose.CA.US.FunNet.Org SanAntonio.TX.US.FunNet.Org)
[17:46] * inkpen has quit IRC (Excess Flood)
[17:46] <GayFDoe27> but no one was there
[17:46] <butch> how big is the d/l Zetapal???
[17:46] * inkpen has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[17:46] <Zetapal> Hi butch 3 file 19meg each
[17:46] <DoloresE> zetapal.. is this interview the most resent one
[17:46] <Zetapal> 3 files
[17:46] <cmell> I'd rather have taken episode 3 forwards :)     (not that I think it to be realistic)
[17:47] * ChanServ sets mode: +o inkpen
[17:47] <butch> ouch...can't do it here at home...would have to do it at work, with the t1
[17:47] <Zetapal> Delores I can send you either interview
[17:47] <butch> dial up , won't allow me here at home..
[17:47] <cmell> heh
[17:47] <Zetapal> but yes the most recent one certainly
[17:47] <DoloresE> thanks .... but I can go and get the achives
[17:47] <cmell> just a sec I might be able to help
[17:48] <cmell> brb
[17:48] <cmell> no it looked like a netsplit
[17:50] <butch> gotta go guys...cya later, take care
[17:50] * butch has quit IRC
[17:51] <cmell> is there someone that needs the NancyLieder interview from 11-25-02
[17:51] <cmell> I have the files also
[17:51] <GayFDoe27> nah
[17:51] <GayFDoe27> if the time comes for me to read those, i will come to you, but that time isn't now.
[17:51] <cmell> ok just offering :)
[17:51] <GayFDoe27> :-]
[17:51] <inkpen> thnx anyways
[17:51] <cmell> it's sound files Gay
[17:52] <cmell> ok fine .)
[17:54] <inkpen> i had a dream last night...in it i had a really good recipe for some food...unfortunately i dont know what it was...one of the ingreadiants was cream cheese :)
[17:54] <cmell> haha
[17:54] <DoloresE> cheese cake ...
[17:56] * from_Texas is now known as tex-away
[17:56] <cmell> any of you ever have a dream where you are running away from something, and it seems you are running in syrup ???
[17:57] <Monk> always
[17:57] <DoloresE> yeah ....running real slow
[17:57] <Monk> its hard to walk
[17:57] <cmell> yep
[17:57] <DoloresE> heavy feet
[17:57] <Monk> those are my worst type of dreams !
[17:57] <cmell> cant get anywhere :(
[17:57] <cmell> I hate those
[17:58] <DoloresE> slow motion
[17:58] <Monk> everyone goes away and u try to keep up
[17:58] <cmell> yes
[17:58] <Monk> but you cant walk hardly
[17:58] <Monk> another one I had i missed the bus because I couldn't really walk that fast
[17:58] <cmell> it's like superglue when .... gets close
[17:59] <GayFDoe27> in my dreams
[17:59] <cmell> aarrrrgghhh
[17:59] <GayFDoe27> when i want to go fast
[17:59] <GayFDoe27> i run backwards
[17:59] <cmell> I hat that dream
[17:59] <GayFDoe27> its weird
[17:59] <DoloresE> well .. gotta go ... have a good evening
[17:59] <cmell> hate
[18:00] <cmell> good evening to you too dolo
[18:00] * DoloresE has quit IRC
[18:00] <Monk> its like my lags give out on me
[18:00] <cmell> hhmm
[18:00] <Monk> last night I had a dream
[18:01] <cmell> yes
[18:01] <Monk> I seen like 6 + ufos in the sky
[18:01] <Monk> then i started floating out of my body
[18:01] * PGill has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[18:01] <Monk> then I blanked out when i got close to the ufo
[18:01] <cmell> I know that kind of dream, I've had those many times :(
[18:02] <Monk> oh yea
[18:02] <cmell> to me those are not pleasant
[18:03] <cmell> scary, but just on the anxiety level
[18:04] <Monk> I was happy when i was being lifted
[18:04] <Monk> I wonder why
[18:05] <GayFDoe27> i have never been abducted, atleast i don't think i have been
[18:05] <Monk> I never been abducted either
[18:05] <GayFDoe27> have you ever talked to anyone who has?  i haven't
[18:05] <cmell> I have a dream, where I'm being taken, from between my parents as a little child by several shadows :(   I was scared as hell
[18:06] <GayFDoe27> i had that dream once
[18:06] <GayFDoe27> it took place in a dark alley way
[18:06] <Monk> cmell: shadow people ehh ?
[18:06] <GayFDoe27> it was cold and rainy
[18:06] <GayFDoe27> but just once i had that dream
[18:06] <cmell> I have dreams where I am but I dont know if its true or not ????
[18:07] <tenshu> i have alotta dreams that i just see alot of scenary from high above
[18:07] <cmell> I don't know monk
[18:07] <tenshu> and i'm movin forwards.. then it fades out to a next area. like above ocean, to mountain, to forest, etc.
[18:07] <Monk> dont think im crazy or anything but i see shadow people
[18:07] <GayFDoe27> i have had that before
[18:08] <GayFDoe27> fast, moving, high flying dreams
[18:08] <GayFDoe27> those are always fun and adventurous
[18:08] <cmell> any of you have dreams of being able to fly when you concentrate ??
[18:08] <Monk> cmell: yes
[18:08] <GayFDoe27> sometimes, which i am sure you can relate to this, i have connected to other people's mind in dreams.
[18:08] <Monk> 2 weeks ago i was in a dream and i knew i was in a dream so i decided I should jump off a big cliff
[18:09] <Monk> and I did
[18:09] <GayFDoe27> i believe that if you have a dream with someone you don't know and the person isn't familiar in any way, that person is having the same dream.
[18:09] <cmell> I have, only I'm lousy, so I have to keep close to the ground
[18:09] <PGill> hmm, i would love to have a lucid dream
[18:09] <cmell> hhmmm perhaps
[18:10] <tenshu> i've had alot of dreams about stuff..
[18:10] <GayFDoe27> stuff
[18:10] <GayFDoe27> okay
[18:10] <GayFDoe27> LoL
[18:10] <GayFDoe27> someone must say, what kind of 'stuff'?
[18:10] <GayFDoe27> LoL
[18:10] <Zetapal> I had a "committee meeting" dream like that the other night - except it wasn't in a boardroom it was more like a party at someones home - lots of people I didn't recognize and when I woke it had that quality about it that said, that was no regular dream, that was a real meeting
[18:11] <cmell> it begins to sound like the funny farm hahahaha
[18:11] * tied2-away is now known as tied2
[18:11] * Monk is now known as monk-away
[18:11] <cmell> yes I know those ZP
[18:11] <tenshu> dang it
[18:12] <Zetapal> I interacted with people there and we were all about discussing some important business, then I met a chick even
[18:12] <tenshu> sorry phone rang
[18:12] <Zetapal> and we hung out
[18:12] <monk-away> what do u think about the idea in a dream all the dream characters are yourself ?
[18:12] <tenshu> i had tos ay stuff really fast so i could answer
[18:12] <GayFDoe27> i had a dream like that
[18:12] <cmell> I have a few dreams, I've only had once each, and those are the most scary
[18:12] <GayFDoe27> several times
[18:12] <GayFDoe27> it was so real
[18:12] <GayFDoe27> those kind of dreams are more real than you may think
[18:12] <tenshu> when i'm awake, sometimes, i have these weird dejavus where it feels like someone else is doin the movement or action
[18:12] <tenshu> but i've never seen these people before in my life
[18:12] <tenshu> and i keep doing it.. and i get this weird feeling in my tummy
[18:13] <tenshu> feels like somethin clenching my head at same time, too
[18:13] <cmell> hhmm
[18:13] <tenshu> it's not like a dejavu-dejavu where you felt like you've done it.. just random crap that sometimes happens on some days
[18:13] <tenshu> like it happend about 3-4 days in a row last week.. then stopped.
[18:14] <slether> hello all
[18:14] <tenshu> that's the best i can explain it
[18:14] <cmell> strange
[18:14] <cmell> hello slether
[18:14] <GayFDoe27> happens to me all the time
[18:14] <Zetapal> Hi slether
[18:14] <GayFDoe27> especially since i remember my dreams as much as possible and i write them down
[18:14] <GayFDoe27> then if they come true, i consider that a deja-vu-like event
[18:15] <tenshu> hrm..
[18:15] * txroz has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[18:15] <Zetapal> Hi txroz
[18:15] <tenshu> i dunno. i've had a dream or two before, and i've actually drawn it
[18:16] <txroz> hi hows it going
[18:16] <tenshu> hm.. how can i explain it.. just kinda a forested area, small patches.. feels again like i'm overhead.
[18:16] <tenshu> have you ever seen those movies where it's going forward, then looks up to sky?
[18:16] <GayFDoe27> yeah
[18:16] <Zetapal> pretty good txroz - we were talkin about dreams - had any vivid ones lately?
[18:17] <GayFDoe27> fading out
[18:17] <GayFDoe27> happens a lot in my dreams
[18:17] <cmell> ok txroz
[18:17] <tenshu> not fading out
[18:17] <GayFDoe27> fading up and then out
[18:17] <txroz> not lately
[18:17] <tenshu> but just going forward, then looking up
[18:17] <tenshu> you keep movin gbu tyou see the sky..
[18:17] <GayFDoe27> exactly, yeah i know what you mean
[18:17] <tenshu> well, anyways. the sky, in my dream, is sort of twilight
[18:18] <tenshu> err get a weird feeling everytime i talk about it
[18:18] <txroz> does this have anything to do with ufo's
[18:18] <GayFDoe27> yeah, if you want it to
[18:18] <tenshu> nah weren't any ufos in there just sort of a scenary thing
[18:18] <tenshu> oh
[18:18] <PGill> the latest dream ive had was one in which i was undergroud trying to escape a cave-in, and while going up...the cable car i was in cut out. i KNEW i was gonna die...but it ended as the car hit the bottom
[18:18] <tenshu> thought you were talkin bout my dream hehe sry :)
[18:18] <Zetapal> txroz- if you want to share a ufo story - you've got a great audience
[18:18] <PGill> only dream i can remmember dying in...
[18:19] <GayFDoe27> i remember saying just before, but my dreams last night were quite weird.
[18:19] <GayFDoe27> 3 evident dreams i had, all in which were connected.,
[18:19] <cmell> hhmmm, I know those dreams they end just before you die ;)
[18:19] <tenshu> the scenary .. sky = twilight, werent many clouds.. just seems  like our sunset.. with a giant moon sort of in the crescent stage
[18:19] <GayFDoe27> each time i woke up, i clearly heard a vivid knock at my room door.
[18:20] <cmell> hhmm
[18:20] <PGill> wait nm, i remember now, i remember being around afterwards...not sure why
[18:20] <Zetapal> PGill - I've had a couple of those long time ago - freaky - one time i got stabbed and as i died and my consciousness drifted away in the dream I slowly, ever so slowly woke up - I DIED to AWAKE
[18:20] <PGill> didnt make any sense
[18:20] <GayFDoe27> there are signs and weird events going on, and i know most of you are experiencing them too.
[18:20] <txroz> I could tell you a thing or two that happened but would I be taken seriously here?
[18:20] <PGill> yea, dying, even in a dream, is very freaky
[18:21] <cmell> I'm getting tired, I have to leave see you later :)
[18:21] <Zetapal> txroz - moreso than anywhere else probably
[18:21] <slether> txroz give us a shot
[18:21] <Zetapal> bye cmell
[18:21] * cmell says bye bye
[18:21] * cmell has left #poleshiftdiscussion
[18:21] <txroz> ok just a sec while i type
[18:22] <txroz> keep talking though
[18:22] <Zetapal> lol
[18:23] <GayFDoe27> i had a nightmare dealing with Zeta's
[18:23] <Zetapal> anybody seen a grey in your dreams?
[18:23] <Zetapal> whoa
[18:23] <Zetapal> there goes that telepathy again
[18:23] <GayFDoe27> it took place in a discussion hall with Nancy speaking about the poleshifts and what we need to do during the Aftertime
[18:24] <GayFDoe27> i saw in the big, clear window, 2 Zeta's running and jumping across roof tops of house and finally they pointed and looked at me.
[18:24] <GayFDoe27> flew and crashed through the window, landing on me, and i woke up with a white light.
[18:25] <GayFDoe27> then i was scared to go back asleep because it was so surreal and scary.
[18:25] <LeXar> everyone I'm going to bed
[18:25] <LeXar> much will happen tomorrow
[18:25] <slether> later
[18:25] <PGill> c ya
[18:25] <LeXar> take care of yourselves
[18:26] <Zetapal> thx Lex you too
[18:26] * LeXar has quit IRC (Angony amongst the mortels... a couple of months, and we'll learn the true meaning of the word "mayday"...)
[18:26] <PGill> heh
[18:26] <GayFDoe27> like that, huh
[18:27] <GayFDoe27> mayday
[18:27] <GayFDoe27>  May day
[18:27] <GayFDoe27> its a pun
[18:27] <GayFDoe27> hello, is anybody out there?
[18:28] <PGill> nope
[18:28] <PGill> ;)
[18:28] <GayFDoe27> ok then
[18:28] <txroz> about 3 years ago idreamed that i was on a craft and two of the greys were walking with me one on each side i wasent afraid and i asked them if they had names like we do one said to me "not like names more like feelings" .I dont remember much else of it .That morning my son asked me if i saw the lights outside said they woke him .
[18:29] <GayFDoe27> now your feelings about this are strong, right?
[18:29] <GayFDoe27> i am sure they are or are you still not sure what happened?
[18:30] <Zetapal> heh txroz - what they told you lines up with zetatalk in case you didn't know - they don't really have names
[18:30] <GayFDoe27> yeah
[18:30] <GayFDoe27> that is true
[18:30] <txroz> it was strange cause i dont remember any other details but they make you forget
[18:30] <GayFDoe27> they don't have names
[18:30] <GayFDoe27> and when they do is when they want to relate to humans on a more emotional scale, i guess?
[18:31] <txroz> thats what they said not sure which one they look alike
[18:32] <txroz> what would ZT think of this
[18:32] <txroz> I kinda fear them now
[18:33] <GayFDoe27> you feel the aliens now?
[18:34] <Zetapal> well like I said nothin in that dream is out of sync with zetatalk - and they would make you forget because for now they are only suppose to have meetings with you in your subconscious
[18:35] <txroz> ZT says there are those that searve others and those whoserve themselves
[18:35] <txroz> i dont feel them
[18:36] <GayFDoe27> so they serve themselves you believe?
[18:36] <GayFDoe27> that isn't good in any respect because there is always reasons to be scared and paranoid about things such as that.
[18:37] <txroz> some of themdo yes
[18:37] * slether has quit IRC
[18:37] <txroz> the others are here to help us
[18:37] <txroz> and
[18:38] <txroz> we do need them
[18:38] <GayFDoe27> yes, i strongly believe we do.
[18:39] <Zetapal> actually the fact that they said they don't have names is a good sign cause they weren't trying to intimidate or impress you - thats a quality of the good guys -but if the good guys visit often its not uncommon to get a visit or two from the bad guys cause they are about demanding equal time
[18:39] * slether has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[18:40] <slether> zetapal thanks buddy for the info, i shall see all later
[18:40] <txroz> if they ever did for me i have no memory of it at all
[18:41] * slether has left #poleshiftdiscussion
[18:41] <tenshu> know what was really cool one time?
[18:41] <Zetapal> in a dream one time i saw my stepmother morph into an sts grey -THAT was scary and at the time very little scared me - I suppose it was a projection of mine - but I entertain the idea that it might have been a warning
[18:41] <Zetapal> the profile fits - lol
[18:42] <tenshu> my ex g/f and i walked outside once, it was about our anniversary .. and she knows that i like to look at sky all the time.
[18:42] <tenshu> well, right when we walked outside, i looked up.. and as we both looked up together, we saw this huge meteor
[18:42] * Mugada has quit IRC (Ping timeout for Mugada[CPE-144-137-86-58.nsw.bigpond.net.au])
[18:42] <tenshu> it happend again when i went to her house a few days later
[18:42] * QV-AwayForDay is now known as QueenVee
[18:43] <Zetapal> wb Queen
[18:43] <QueenVee> thanks, hello all
[18:43] <tenshu> hey queen =)
[18:43] <txroz> hello
[18:43] * islander has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[18:44] <QueenVee> we're having incredibly warm weather here, very unusual. i was out without a coat today
[18:44] <QueenVee> hello islander
[18:44] <islander> hello again
[18:44] <QueenVee> just came into the room myself, i've been away most of the day
[18:44] <tenshu> yeah i noticed that today.. been very rainy but very warm and spring-like
[18:44] <islander> I've been busy with my other life, work family and such
[18:44] <Zetapal> did you have success Queen ?
[18:45] <QueenVee> so, it's almost the weekend, anybody have any questions for this saturday's zetatalk?
[18:45] <tenshu> i just watched the first episode of Taken!! =D
[18:45] <QueenVee> zp: yes, my clients are very happy with the project i've been working on for them, hardly any revisions to be done
[18:45] <Zetapal> well guys how about a question about dreams, since that what we've been sharing...
[18:46] <tenshu> alright
[18:46] <tenshu> lemme think of one really fast..
[18:46] <Zetapal> what could we ask the zetas about dreams that we don't already know... hmm
[18:48] <Zetapal> will they become clearer or more easy to remember as the event draws near?
[18:48] <tenshu> yeah
[18:48] <Zetapal> frequency?
[18:48] <Zetapal> um...
[18:48] <tenshu> i've been havin alot of dreams that seems like i'm in a different world.. and some dreams when i'm just flying around.
[18:49] <tenshu> could that relate to anything?
[18:49] <Zetapal> yeah, like whats the purpose of flying in a dream? whats that all about
[18:50] <tenshu> yeah
[18:50] <tenshu> hrm.. i haven't really worried about much lately.. i basically got the one answer i wanted, though, from this months update
[18:50] <tenshu> bout people getting sick all the time
[18:51] <Zetapal> I don't know if they'll go for it the subject matter though, its kinda whispy - they like the concrete stuff
[18:51] <PGill> i was wondering something....
[18:51] <Zetapal> me personally - I always liked the z comments on being human
[18:52] <PGill> i dont think ive read about it in ZT
[18:53] <tenshu> hm.. i like hearing about the aftertime
[18:53] <Zetapal> ok
[18:53] <PGill> i know we dont know about our past lives, and with good reason, and that the zetas can read our soul like a book....does that mean that they can read themselves? so their lives are seemingly continuous?
[18:53] <QueenVee> all of those subjects have been addressed in ZT....
[18:53] <PGill> kinda curious about htat
[18:54] <QueenVee> PGill: what makes you think they can see our past lives?
[18:54] <PGill> im sure ive read it somewhere
[18:54] <PGill> i can check
[18:54] <QueenVee> they are subject to the same laws of reincarnation as we are
[18:54] <tenshu> i think they mean they can see how people act
[18:55] <QueenVee> well, they are telepathic, so they know people's thoughts....
[18:55] <QueenVee> but that doesn't mean they are all knowing
[18:56] <tenshu> yeah if they are telepathic they can understand that some of us can be on a more mature level in situations
[18:58] <Zetapal> I tell ya an area that i ve been thinking about more lately that might could be addressed - its the next big thing we're all waiting for aside from the satellites goin dead and maybe California getting a major quake - thats the visible period, the 7 week before shift period of time - what a weird time that will be for us huh ...sure they've characterized some aspects of it but....
[18:58] <tenshu> i'd like to hear more about human emotions, though.. like zp talked about
[18:59] <Zetapal> it seems to me like it will be a tremendous opportunity for us in some way...at least for us all this doubt will be gone and we'll finally have something to show everybody...
[18:59] <Zetapal> point to and explain....about
[18:59] <tenshu> aye.. and i'll know alot more about myself
[19:00] <tenshu> with that conformation that PX will pass, will help me relax in so many ways
[19:00] <Zetapal> I guess I would like to know how should I expect to take maximun advantage of this particular time...
[19:00] <QueenVee> problem is that over five years almost everything about the poleshift has been asked...
[19:00] <Zetapal> what can I hope to accomplish as far as getting through to people during that time...how might I, should I expect to
[19:01] <tenshu> i think that's more feeling based
[19:01] <tenshu> like queen and i talked about earlier.. you'll know when you shoudl tell people
[19:01] <QueenVee> well, in terms of "getting through to people", that's been addressed.... talk to those who are receptive... introduce the subject gently and gradually... don't push if they are not receptive.....
[19:02] <tenshu> certain individuals, i used for example my mom, are just over stressed right now and id on't think telling them would be a wise idea right now.
[19:02] <tenshu> yeah
[19:02] <QueenVee> i was kinda shocked by something Jeremy posted on tt-forums the other day....
[19:02] <Zetapal> as it a zetatalk question?
[19:03] <Zetapal> was
[19:03] <islander> an interesting question may be as to how many will actually have knowledge and believe an event is going to occur vs how many have to be physically convinced
[19:04] <islander> if 10 percent survive, .00001 percent are alive to explain?
[19:04] <QueenVee> made  a reference to "most of us feel ambivalent about informing others".... then went on to say basically because then we'll all be in competition for food, supplies, safe places, etc....
[19:04] <Zetapal> right - and should we expect to try
[19:05] <QueenVee> i KNOW that has been answered somewhere..... recall ZT saying that people in the know number in the thousands
[19:05] <QueenVee> mmmmm, but maybe that's a good question
[19:05] <Zetapal> perhaps everything has been asked
[19:06] <QueenVee> so, how many in the last week will be consciously aware of what is to happen?
[19:06] <islander> it may be more important that a few are in the know to help guide later, not at the present?
[19:06] <QueenVee> but, then, what does that mean -- they know about PX, that a poleshift is going to happen?
[19:06] <QueenVee> or just know intuitively "something" is going to happen
[19:06] <QueenVee> islander: well, that's my thinking
[19:07] <QueenVee> so, zp, define what you mean when you say how many will have "knowledge"....
[19:07] <islander> by having that knowledge their role in the future may be to help set up communities that don't try to reassemble what we are presently used to...
[19:08] <islander> the knowledge and what is presented as a whole in Zetatalk becomes the seed to the future?
[19:11] <QueenVee> well, to be honest, i don't think there's a direct correlation between knowing ZetaTalk beforehand and playing an important role in the aftertime, being a leader
[19:11] <Zetapal> its just that when its finally in the sky - there is their dag gum proof that the faithless are always hollerin for - "there it is, see?" and here's the prediction from zt, the explanation, and the work of Sitchen.Velikovsky etc ect to back it all up - now is the time for the truth, now is the time to burn all your idols....
[19:11] <islander> not a leader but sharing what is known, being a positive support
[19:12] <Zetapal> now is the time to see and admit that government and religions are just to control you, not protect you, now is the time to realize that we need each other cause there IS nothing else...
[19:12] <tenshu> what my friend and i are planning to do
[19:12] <tenshu> is, right now, we are collecting a list
[19:12] <QueenVee> zp: i think you will be disappointed the degree to which people won't consider the dag gum thing in the sky being proof of anything
[19:13] <tenshu> of things .. and we are gonna have kinda like classes or jobs that people are good at
[19:13] <tenshu> like sort of a natural skill or gained skill that they know of to help the community
[19:13] <tenshu> heh i could go on but i'm probably off subject
[19:13] <tenshu> sry
[19:13] <QueenVee> remember: the PTB will be telling them it's mars.... just a comet....
[19:14] * Sammi has joined #poleshiftdiscussion
[19:14] <QueenVee> if you re-read ZT on the last days, they DON'T say that suddenly everyone will see the light.... on the contrary
[19:14] <QueenVee> hello Sammi
[19:14] <Sammi> Hello...
[19:14] <Zetapal> well Queen I hope not, because I refuse to give up hope in people cause they're all I got
[19:15] <islander> it will be explained as another earth moon just like the latest one on the horseshoe orbit
[19:15] <QueenVee> Sammi: what brings you to this room?
[19:15] <GayFDoe27> Never give up hope, never surrender and you will prevail to help others first and lastly if the time comes, help yourself.
[19:15] <Sammi> First Time... just looking
[19:15] <QueenVee> it's not about giving up hope, it's about having realistic expectations so that one does not become awash in disappointment at the time....
[19:16] <QueenVee> so that one is prepared for reality
[19:16] <QueenVee> i'm not saying not to try and tell people
[19:16] <GayFDoe27> hmmmm
[19:16] <QueenVee> just not to expect them to suddenly see the light
[19:16] <QueenVee> Sammi: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[19:17] <Sammi> Since Sept... very interesting
[19:17] <QueenVee> Sammi: what part of the world do you live in?
[19:17] <Sammi> in California... anyone from Cali?
[19:17] <Zetapal> well maybe no question for z's then, sorry, I smote the rock but no water came out
[19:18] <tenshu> keep positive attitude at all times!
[19:18] <QueenVee> ZT clearly indicates that for most people the penny is never going to drop, even after the shift they are going to be in denial, refusing to accept it....  this is something we have to be prepared for
[19:18] <tenshu> suicide, death.. insanity
[19:18] <QueenVee> Sammi: no one from california here right now.....
[19:18] <tenshu> gotta be strong to handle all that and still be able to lead others
[19:19] <islander> question.. how many of your families would believe it right now or believe you when its visible over a NASA explanation?
[19:19] <GayFDoe27> <-------NJ
[19:19] <Sammi> OK ... i'll be observing!
[19:19] <tenshu> i believe my family would think me crazy
[19:19] <islander> my family already thinks i've gone mid-life...
[19:20] <QueenVee> islander: i've told my mother what to expect, she is receptive, is monitoring earthchanges and events herself.... she will know what it is when it's in the sky.... but i can also see her going into denial at the last minute, not WANTING to believe what it is....
[19:20] <GayFDoe27> so is my mother
[19:20] <Sammi> Anyone in Canada?
[19:20] <QueenVee> i'm in ontario
[19:21] <QueenVee> islander is on Vancouver Island
[19:21] <Sammi> I'm still looking into possibly moving there... Calgary area
[19:21] <QueenVee> good place, Sammi
[19:21] <Zetapal> well maybe we can think up some questions tomorrow, lol. so long as everyone remembers to turn counselling mode to off, and thinking caps to ON.  :)
[19:21] <QueenVee> Alberta will be one of the best places to be during and after the shift
[19:21] <Sammi> One of the safest place too
[19:22] <Sammi> QueenVee... will u be in Alberta when it happens?
[19:22] <QueenVee> well, bear in mind this: when i first talked to nancy about her doing a zetatalk session in here, she said that the process of coming up with questions would be more valuable than the answers themselves....
[19:23] <QueenVee> Sammi: no, i have a relatively safe place in Ontario
[19:23] <QueenVee> the process of thinking of questions gets us thinking about what it will be like, mentally preparing ourselves....
[19:23] <islander> older pensioners with a life time experince may be more receptive than the youth is my observation, perhaps the Zeta's could discuss the receptive characteristics of humans
[19:23] <Sammi> right now my family is still looking to buy a house... any suggestions?
[19:23] <QueenVee> islander: no, you got it wrong there.
[19:24] <tenshu> continue life as normal
[19:24] <tenshu> thats my suggestion
[19:24] <tenshu> just prepare for it
[19:24] <tenshu> physically and mentally behind the scenese
[19:24] <QueenVee> Sammi: looking to buy a house in alberta?
[19:24] <Sammi> yes
[19:25] <Sammi> something we can turn into our safe place
[19:25] <QueenVee> islander: read this on how valuable the young will be in the aftertime: http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t113.htm
[19:26] <QueenVee>