Session Start: Fri Dec 20 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
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[03:18] <West_coast> hello
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[03:36] <obany> hi
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[04:24] <obany> hi ralf
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[06:09] <obaway> sigh
[06:09] <obaway> lATERS
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[07:10] <Dsarith> Good Morning all
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[08:34] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O            
[08:35] <QueenVee> hi zetapal -- day off?
[08:35] <Zetapal> no, was on the site at 6
[08:35] <Zetapal> short job
[08:35] <QueenVee> what was the story the other day, when your colleague didn't show up?
[08:36] <Zetapal> found out today it was just cancelled - as i had hoped - still my friend could have tipped me off - he does have my email - he's out of town now but I'll have a talk with him when he gets back
[08:37] <QueenVee> so you have the rest of the day off?
[08:38] <Zetapal> yup - in fact I don't work again til next Friday :) - why ? you wanna screw?
[08:39] <QueenVee> geez, what's your problem today?
[08:39] <Zetapal> lol huh ?
[08:39] <Zetapal> you were supposed to laugh, whats YOUR problem?
[08:41] <tex-at-work> You kids be nice
[08:41] <Zetapal> o-tay
[08:41] <QueenVee> the debunkers are really going to town on TT-forums....
[08:43] <Zetapal> oH Queen here's something I wanted you to see yesterday:
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[08:43] <QueenVee> hello RN
[08:43] <Zetapal> We have recently heard Art Bell's first interview with Malachi Martin from 96. Some of the later interviews were more interesting regarding a poleshift.
[08:43] <Zetapal>  I am still looking for the later interviews but here is a small clip of an interview from April 97. Listen to Dr.Martin answer Art Bell's question,"Why did the vatican build an observatory on Mt.Graham,Arizona." This is a small real player file - slightly low quality.
[08:43] <RNTHOMAS> Mornin...  My eyese still feel like they're closed and that I'm still asleep... Hmmm...
[08:44] <RNTHOMAS> Oh, I am still at work, yawn... lol...
[08:44] <Zetapal> can I send it?
[08:44] <QueenVee> sure
[08:44] <QueenVee> i believe i've read the transcript of that interview before, but i'd like to hear it...
[08:45] <QueenVee> is that Whitley Strieber?
[08:46] <Zetapal> yeah Id like to get the last interview, he knew he was going to die and did pass shortly thereafter
[08:46] <Zetapal> no its Art and DR. Malachi Martin
[08:47] <QueenVee> here's what i don't understand about malachi martin....
[08:47] <Zetapal> anybody else want to have it - didn't mean to leave anybody out
[08:47] <QueenVee> how did he get away with saying this stuff without getting flack from the Vatican?
[08:48] <QueenVee> or was he the vatican's way of letting people know?
[08:48] <Zetapal> well he did get some flak
[08:48] <QueenVee> what kind of flack? was he told to shut up?
[08:48] <Zetapal> if yo do a websearch on him you'll find anti-martin pages
[08:49] <QueenVee> yeah, but i'm talking about official flack from the Vatican
[08:49] <QueenVee> the Vatican doesn't tolerate dissension from it's priests very well, you know; there are usually serious repercussions
[08:50] <Zetapal> but anyway - isn't the clip neat? :) suggestive of something coming?
[08:50] <QueenVee> yes
[08:50] <Zetapal> your welcome
[08:52] <Dsarith> Hi All, I just checked back and saw ya'll have wakened :-)
[08:52] <QueenVee> well, in a manner of speaking....
[08:53] <QueenVee> i have an upset tummy
[08:54] <Dsarith> I am sorry QV
[08:54] <Dsarith> How was your Toronto trip
[08:54] <Dsarith> ?
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[08:55] <QueenVee> Toronto was good
[08:55] <Dsarith> Good :-)
[08:56] <QueenVee> the thing that's really bugging me about my tummy is that i am really craving a cup of coffee, but can't have one   :-(
[08:56] <QueenVee> QueenVee + Caffeine Withdrawal = Cranky
[08:57] <Dsarith> Take sum Pepto and then have a big cup of coffee
[08:58] <Dsarith> Its worth it
[08:59] <QueenVee> i've been taking maalox and eno all day!
[09:00] <Dsarith> You must really be bumming then... I am sorry
[09:00] <QueenVee> i'm indulging in an age-old tradition -- whining
[09:01] <tex-at-work> would you like some cheese with that whine
[09:01] <QueenVee> no, it'll just upset my stomach....
[09:01] <Dsarith> And every whiner needs someone to whine to and fortunately for you that is my specialty. I am a very good listener
[09:01] <Dsarith> lol
[09:02] <QueenVee> fortunately, i get very quickly bored with my own whining....
[09:02] <Dsarith> No Cheese!!!
[09:02] <QueenVee> mmmm, as we've been talking, my tummy has really been settling down.....
[09:02] <Dsarith> Did you do anything exciting in Toronto?
[09:02] * tex-at-work going to lunch.. bbl
[09:02] <QueenVee> Dsarith: nah, just went in, did my business, then got my ass home
[09:03] <Dsarith> Its not your tummy, its thoughts of going for the coffee. Your mind is saying do it...DO IT!
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[09:03] <QueenVee> but i felt a terrible homesickness for it on my way back to London
[09:03] <Dsarith> You flew to Toronto from London?
[09:03] <QueenVee> lol, no, train
[09:04] <QueenVee> oh, you don't realize i mean London, Ontario....
[09:04] <QueenVee> you thought i meant the UK?
[09:04] <Dsarith> Yes
[09:04] <QueenVee> LOL
[09:05] <QueenVee> you must think i'm quite the jetsetter...
[09:05] <Dsarith> I was thinking chyaa
[09:06] <QueenVee> London is a small city about two hours from Toronto; i grew up in London but lived in Toronto for the past 20 years...
[09:06] <QueenVee> London is a very boring place
[09:07] <Dsarith> Wow... I bet you do miss it
[09:07] <QueenVee> but it's pretty, lots of trees and parks
[09:07] <Dsarith> What makes London a boring place
[09:07] <Dsarith> BRB
[09:07] <QueenVee> boring people
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[09:13] <Dsarith> Sorry phone call - what makes them boring?
[09:13] <Zetapal> somebody posted an edited version of last nights Art BEll with Sylvia Brown - I suppose they edited out all those incessant commercial breaks - should be good - downloading it now
[09:14] <Dsarith> I am not familiar with Sylvia... Who is she?
[09:15] <QueenVee> Dsarinth: population is too homgeneously white, middle-class, and conservative
[09:15] <QueenVee> i like a lively multicultural city like Toronto
[09:16] <QueenVee> Sylvia Browne is really good with one-on-one personal predictions for people, contacting spirits on the other side -- but she has a ZERO track record on general future predictions
[09:16] <Dsarith> What keeps you in London... move girl!!! :-)
[09:17] <QueenVee> Dsarith: i moved here about a year ago to look after my mother who was ill; it was meant to be temporary, but i am staying here because of the shift
[09:18] <QueenVee> closer to thetime of the shift i will be moving in with my cousin on her farm near here
[09:18] <QueenVee> it's in my best interest to be here right now -- but i don't have to like it!
[09:19] <Dsarith> Thats true
[09:19] <Dsarith> Your job is to convert those conservatives in London. Its your calling :-)
[09:20] <QueenVee> i lived in a really lively neighbourhood in toronto called "cabbagetown"; there's a real community there and i miss it terribly
[09:21] * QueenVee feels like maybe she could tolerate a little food and coffee now....
[09:21] <Dsarith> Then QV needs too :-)
[09:21] <Dsarith> eat away
[09:22] <Dsarith> Coffee is good
[09:22] <Dsarith> brb
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[09:38] <dras> herro
[09:38] <QueenVee> hello dras
[09:39] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room?
[09:40] <dras> its yggdrasil
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[09:41] <QueenVee> oh, i see... hello yggdrasil....
[09:41] <yggdrasil> hi
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[10:06] <QueenVee> Zetapal: ARE YOU THERE?
[10:11] <Zetapal> yes Queen
[10:11] <Zetapal> :)
[10:11] <QueenVee> do you have a copy of the malachi martin interview on art Bell?
[10:12] <Zetapal> yes I do
[10:12] <QueenVee> could i possible get a copy from you?
[10:13] <Zetapal> sure - the first files are 8 files 7meg each...
[10:13] <QueenVee> wowsa
[10:13] <QueenVee> well, if you're game, i am
[10:13] <Zetapal> but the poster missed the last hour so there is a final hour file of 20megs
[10:14] <Zetapal> from a different poster
[10:14] <QueenVee> ok
[10:14] <Zetapal> files 1 through 5 deal primarily with exorcism , file 6 on picks up more with earthchanges
[10:15] <QueenVee> just send me file 6 then
[10:15] <Zetapal> 6,7,8 and the final hour?
[10:15] <QueenVee> yeah
[10:15] <Zetapal> ok standby...
[10:16] <QueenVee> thanks muchly, very appreciated
[10:17] <Zetapal> can you see it?
[10:17] <QueenVee> i accepted the send, but the connection failed. try again.
[10:18] <Zetapal> ok
[10:19] <Zetapal> let me reboot, I have alot of other apps running
[10:19] <Zetapal> brb
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[10:31] <Zetapal> ok things look good, had to tweak the router cause we added a computer to the network and it was assigning my old addy to the new sys, should work now... ready to try Queen?
[10:31] <obaway> okay back .... was a little later with my job ... took a short break ... because there was some party and i drank 2 glasses of beer ..
[10:33] <QueenVee> zp: looking good
[10:33] <QueenVee> hi obany
[10:33] <Zetapal> see, not so think as you dumb I am
[10:33] <QueenVee> lol
[10:34] <QueenVee> not just a pretty face
[10:34] <QueenVee> hi obany
[10:37] <obaway> hi QV
[10:40] <Zetapal> Queen - accept file 7?
[10:40] <Zetapal> :)
[10:45] <Zetapal> file 8 ...
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[10:48] <QueenVee> hi, sorry, someone is just coming up to see me, so i won't be here to accept the next file; be back here in about 10 minutes
[10:48] <QueenVee> hi MIchaellss
[10:48] <Michaellss> hey
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[11:00] <Zetapal> ok let me know when you're back
[11:03] <Dsarith> I am back... meetings, meetings
[11:03] <Zetapal> wb Dsarith
[11:03] <Dsarith> Thanks :-)
[11:04] <Zetapal> Dsarith can I send you a funny mp3 ?
[11:04] <Dsarith> Absolutely
[11:05] <Dsarith> Send it ...
[11:06] <Dsarith> 2 minutes to finish download
[11:10] <Dsarith> That is freaken funny!!! lol
[11:10] <Zetapal> lol
[11:10] <Zetapal> yeah a bit old but I thought so
[11:11] <Dsarith> Its one of those keepers
[11:11] <Zetapal> right - Christmas music
[11:12] <Zetapal> Dsarith want another one?
[11:12] <Dsarith> Absolutely
[11:17] <Zetapal> Im loaded with stuff like that - anytime you want a funny, just ask, I'll send
[11:17] <Dsarith> Resend the last one Joe Pesci
[11:17] <Zetapal> ok
[11:18] <Dsarith> The other one was funny. I was looking for one I had on Officer and Gentleman... Do you have it
[11:18] <Dsarith> I have it somewhere, may be at home though
[11:20] <Zetapal> I think I know the one your talking about, yes I do, but its Sgt. Hartman from Full Metal Jacket - I've got two of him
[11:20] <Dsarith> lol
[11:20] <Dsarith> These cant be real... People cant be that stupid
[11:20] <Zetapal> lol
[11:20] <Dsarith> Send those to me
[11:21] <Dsarith> No it was the one jack Nicholson
[11:21] <Zetapal> hmm i don't have that one
[11:22] <Dsarith> lol
[11:22] <Dsarith> Pesci is too funny
[11:22] <Zetapal> :)
[11:23] <Dsarith> If they had to beep out the words there would be long silences ... lol
[11:24] <Dsarith> I love Sgt_Hartman
[11:24] <Dsarith> He is the best drill sargeant
[11:25] <Zetapal> whats your name, fatbody ?
[11:25] <Zetapal> want a cool ufo video? supposed to be real...
[11:25] <Dsarith> lol
[11:26] <Dsarith> I am listening to that one right now
[11:27] <Dsarith> Yes I do
[11:27] <Dsarith> Give me the UFO
[11:27] <Dsarith> Please
[11:27] <Zetapal> ok
[11:27] <Dsarith> I can handle the download :-)
[11:29] <Dsarith> lol... Suntire is funny
[11:29] <Zetapal> :)
[11:29] <Dsarith> That is what I call Customer Service
[11:29] <Zetapal> accept ufo vid ?
[11:30] <Dsarith> I am not getting cued for it
[11:30] <Dsarith> hmmmph
[11:30] <Dsarith> Try again
[11:30] <Zetapal> ok
[11:31] <Dsarith> I hear it pinging me, but I do not see it
[11:31] <Dsarith> I am backup so I cant minimize my screens yet
[11:32] <Zetapal> ah ok -well let me know when you get your screen clear
[11:32] <Dsarith> Ok, I am going to try to find the one I told you about and see what all I have.
[11:32] <Zetapal> ok great
[11:32] <Dsarith> I have been sending them home to burn on a CD so I dont know what all I have here. However, I know I got it somewhere
[11:33] <Zetapal> ah I see
[11:33] <Dsarith> I get so much emails its not even funny.
[11:33] <Zetapal> right - and you have meetings
[11:33] <Dsarith> Here is URL, its pretty funny, but heavy on the language so if you are at work, but have headsets on :-)
[11:35] <Dsarith> Yes, I do have meetings, lots of them... I am a network engineer and have 4 engineers reporting to me so needless to say they keep me pretty busy here
[11:35] <Zetapal> ah I see
[11:36] <Dsarith> Here is the URL.. Funny!!!
[11:36] <Dsarith> http://www.bestcreatives.com/MadCow.html
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[11:37] <Dsarith> My IT Department wants to load XP on my computer
[11:38] <Dsarith> What crap
[11:38] <Zetapal> lol - funny page
[11:38] <Dsarith> Yah, I thought so too
[11:39] <Dsarith> I have more stuff... but it have to get to my folder and my laptop wont let me into it yet
[11:39] <Dsarith> Just about done though
[11:40] <Zetapal> I heard that microsoft won't support win 98 anymore
[11:40] <Dsarith> Really???
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[11:40] <Zetapal> they just announced it - so soon
[11:41] <Dsarith> Wow... I support my whole family on there computers 3 of which are running 98
[11:41] <Dsarith> The others are running ME
[11:41] <Zetapal> yeah thats what I run, 98se
[11:41] <Dsarith> Looks like I will have to upgrade
[11:41] <Dsarith> 98se has been pretty stable for the computers I manage
[11:41] <Dsarith> Kind of Like it
[11:42] <Zetapal> yeah, me too - its like a win 95 that works !
[11:43] <Dsarith> Its a shame MS is doing that
[11:44] <Dsarith> EarthChanges is so quiet
[11:44] <Zetapal> yeah
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[11:46] <Dsarith> I have a video on Safe_in NYC... pretty cool.. not my flavor of music but the scenes are pretty cool. I can get to that. What a look?
[11:46] <Dsarith> Want a look?
[11:47] <Zetapal> sure
[11:48] <Dsarith> I cant even download it from my fTP site onto my computer...ARRRRGH. Hold on have to wait until backup is done
[11:49] <Tenshu`zz> erp
[11:49] <Tenshu`zz> sry zp
[11:49] <Tenshu`zz> iw as at school all day =P
[11:49] <Zetapal> its ok Tenshu
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[11:50] <Zetapal> you want Taken 2 ?
[11:50] <Tenshu> yaya
[11:50] <Zetapal> ok
[11:51] <Zetapal> aw cool Tenshu - see that?
[11:51] <Tenshu> yyeah
[11:51] <Tenshu> :)
[11:51] <Zetapal> it picked up where we left off
[11:52] <Tenshu> ya i didn't know that either
[11:52] <Zetapal> great
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[11:56] <Tenshu> i love this hehe
[11:57] <Tenshu> i get to watch episodes whenever i want!
[11:57] <Zetapal> Tenshu - they get better too as the story unfolds
[11:57] <Tenshu> ya i heard from lots of people that it's really good
[11:58] <Tenshu> the first episode seemed alot of reality.. it was al il shady bout the aliens able to morph into anything tho..
[11:58] <Tenshu> i wouldn't know hto
[12:07] <Zetapal> hm
[12:09] <Tenshu> gahhh
[12:09] <Tenshu> it's not workin again :((((
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[12:13] <Zetapal> Tenshu - resume send?
[12:13] <Zetapal> ok
[12:13] <Tenshu> yep yep :)
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[12:22] <Zetapal> wb Queen - ready to pick up where we left off - I haven't forgottrn about ya
[12:23] <Tenshu> oopidty
[12:23] <QueenVee> sorry about that, zp....
[12:23] <Zetapal> np
[12:23] <QueenVee> my guest stayed longer than expected
[12:23] <QueenVee> yes, resume
[12:23] <Zetapal> ok I more file...
[12:23] <QueenVee> ok
[12:25] <Zetapal> see it?
[12:25] <Zetapal> lol
[12:26] <QueenVee> sorry, i rely on the flashing light, but that doesn't come on for the DCC send notice
[12:26] <QueenVee> i'm always doing several things at once...
[12:26] <Zetapal> right - you know you can enable a click or beep sound from options if you want for ir
[12:27] <Zetapal> it
[12:27] <QueenVee> but the sound acts just like the flashing icon -- it doesn't work for DCC send
[12:27] <Zetapal> hm
[12:27] <QueenVee> they also don't work if someone enters or leaves the channel -- only if they post
[12:28] <QueenVee> which is irritating
[12:28] <Zetapal> i wonder what the latest update fro Mirc is?  have to check that, make sure Im using latest version
[12:29] <QueenVee> there's something called ircN that has more options, but i can't be bothered changing software.....
[12:31] <QueenVee> zp: here's info on ircN: http://www.ircn.org/
[12:33] <Tenshu> hey i have a question
[12:34] <QueenVee> shoot

Session Start: Fri Dec 20 14:00:42 2002
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
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[14:11] <slether> by all see later
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[14:18] <agendkj2> ok
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[14:18] <Zetapal> Hi agend
[14:19] <cmell> a bit late ZP, hi
[14:19] <Zetapal> hey cmel !!!!!
[14:19] <Zetapal> I found something for you today....
[14:20] <cmell> ok, what
[14:20] <Zetapal> well I have verified it but its a newsbin pro crack
[14:20] <cmell> what version
[14:21] <obaway> btw the sightings page is updated
[14:21] <cmell> ok :)
[14:21] <obaway> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
[14:22] <Zetapal> version 4.05
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[14:22] <cmell> good thats the one I have :)
[14:22] <Zetapal> here...
[14:23] <cmell> [23:20:53] DCC Send from Zetapal rejected (NewsBin_Pro_4.05_&_crack.rar, file type ignored)
[14:23] * obaway is now known as obany
[14:23] <Zetapal> heads up - its a rar file that
[14:24] <Zetapal> unpaks an imstall of newsbin AND a crack folder - if you already have it installed then JUST try running the program in the crack folder  -
[14:24] <Zetapal> accept DCC cmel ,,,
[14:25] <cmell> [23:20:53] DCC Send from Zetapal rejected (NewsBin_Pro_4.05_&_crack.rar, file type ignored)
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[14:25] <cmell> just like yesterday
[14:25] <Zetapal> ok Im gonna rename it , like testerday OK?
[14:25] <cmell> ok?
[14:25] <obany> cmell: go to your mirc options ... choose DCC you can choose what files you want to accept...
[14:27] <Zetapal> ok cool - just rename the extension .rar  - again only run the program in the crack folder, and you might want to do that from the Newsbin root directory
[14:27] <cmell> found the place
[14:28] <cmell> try and send it again, this time with the rar extension
[14:28] <cmell> I changed the options
[14:28] <Zetapal> ok
[14:29] <cmell> try once more
[14:29] <Zetapal> ok there
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[14:30] <cmell> wont work
[14:32] <Zetapal> well ok anyway - nevermind that - try the crack and let me know if it works ok ?
[14:34] <Zetapal> Are yall Listening to this? Amazing  Sylvia Brown goes Poleshift !!!
[14:34] <Monk> lol
[14:36] <cmell> zetapal it says it needs a file called libfilter.dll :(
[14:36] <Zetapal> hold on
[14:39] <cmell> the same problem arises with the filetype
[14:39] <Zetapal> here - here's my libfilter,dll - stick it in your nbin root dir....
[14:40] <QueenVee> zetapal: what was the name of the first sylvia brown file you sent me -- can't seem to find where it downloaded....
[14:40] <cmell> try once more
[14:40] <Zetapal> rename .dll and put in NB root
[14:42] <Zetapal> Queen - SylviaB on Art 121902A.mp3
[14:43] <QueenVee> okay, it downloaded into the "sounds" file instead of the "dowloads" file
[14:43] <QueenVee> listening to it now
[14:44] <QueenVee> zetapal: how far into the first file is sylvia?
[14:45] <Zetapal> you want units?
[14:45] <Zetapal> search forward
[14:45] <QueenVee> or just approx -- like 1/4 way, 1/2 way....
[14:45] <Zetapal> 1/4
[14:45] <QueenVee> thanks
[14:46] <Zetapal> yw
[14:46] <Zetapal> it gets good quick Queen
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[14:50] <Zetapal> cmel - hows it goin with that thing dude ?
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[14:50] <cmell> I'm currently clean the registration db, and reinstalling newsbin
[14:51] <Zetapal> hmm - does it look encouraging ?
[14:51] <cmell> don't know yet
[14:52] <Zetapal> if your gonna do that i would use the one that comes with the crack
[14:52] <cmell> that was the plan :)
[14:53] <Zetapal> :) I really want you to have that man
[14:54] <QueenVee> zp: interesting, she's seeing an interruption in food supply....
[14:54] <QueenVee> but she's interpreting it as the result of terrorist activity
[14:55] <Zetapal> just hang in there
[14:59] <cmell> finally, now I have a registered newsbin pro 4.05 :)
[14:59] <cmell> now the settings
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[14:59] <QueenVee> hello islander
[14:59] <islander> hello
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[14:59] <Zetapal> hot diggety cmel - thats great news man
[15:00] <QueenVee> hello ydgrasil
[15:00] <ydgrasil> hi there
[15:00] <Zetapal> do you want me to send you a list of my selected groups? - you could modify from there?
[15:00] <cmell> zp what was the network settings ?
[15:00] <Zetapal> my .ini file
[15:01] <Zetapal> oh um
[15:01] <Zetapal> set the packet size up from default 8 I think to a 24
[15:01] <cmell> ok
[15:04] <Zetapal> oh yeah - and turn that stinking "automatically download" switch under options to off - you should only use that when your going into a picture group and you know you want all the files beforehand
[15:04] <cmell> ok
[15:04] <Zetapal> the one at the top of the menu bar
[15:05] <Zetapal> there's another setting called "automatically resume downloads on reconnect' - you want that ON
[15:06] <cmell> the settings was like you said
[15:06] <obany> no one of you has a opinion yet about  the updated sightings page?
[15:07] <cmell> wasen't it in alt.binaries.great that taken was posted
[15:08] <obany> am i like fucking ignored over here ?
[15:08] <obany> well well /ignore obany :P
[15:09] <cmell> yes, sorry obany, I'll look at the page now
[15:09] <QueenVee> ZetaPal: wow, she is putting her money on 2003
[15:09] <islander> obany: thanks for the update, going to look right now
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[15:09] <Zetapal> yes cmell thats where sterntuary posts all his stuff
[15:10] <cmell> well no taken
[15:10] <obany> QueenVee: sylvia brown you mean ?
[15:10] <Zetapal> slether you want that second file ?
[15:10] <QueenVee> yes, sylvia brown
[15:10] <slether> yes zetapal , thank you
[15:11] <Zetapal> ok
[15:12] <Zetapal> ob1 if you want Brown interview just say so
[15:12] <Zetapal> comm free
[15:12] <Zetapal> slether accept file 2
[15:13] <slether> i did
[15:13] <Zetapal> yes cool
[15:14] <slether> thanks alot zetapal
[15:14] <Zetapal> sure my pleasure
[15:20] <slether> brb
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[15:20] <QueenVee> hello RN
[15:21] <RNTHOMAS> How goes it...
[15:22] <RNTHOMAS> Well, if all goes well, I'll hopefully get to meet Steve Havas tomorrow...  
[15:22] <RNTHOMAS> I hope he can swing a little time my way for a coffee...
[15:22] <QueenVee> wow, cool
[15:23] <QueenVee> RN: do you know what's happening with the images?
[15:23] <RNTHOMAS> Also, Just found out I have a friend that has a 12 INCH diameter telescope, and software already online.
[15:23] <QueenVee> also very cool
[15:23] <RNTHOMAS> Nope...    
[15:25] <slether> back
[15:26] <RNTHOMAS> So what's happening with the images?  
[15:27] <QueenVee> dunno
[15:27] <obany> no one of you has a opinion yet about  the updated sightings page?
[15:28] <RNTHOMAS> Ok... Well I have done some pretty shoddy analysis of the images, and did come up with a few hazy distant objects which are not on the DSS.
[15:28] <obany> that's what i said earlier on
[15:28] <QueenVee> obany: updated when?
[15:28] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm just check it
[15:28] <RNTHOMAS> But there's nothing conclusive...   Similar to what Jurian also found...
[15:29] <RNTHOMAS> ONly mine show up as multiple round objects...
[15:29] <RNTHOMAS> The RED and WHITE personna, In My Humble Opinion are moons...  The moons of Niburu...
[15:30] <RNTHOMAS> The location of which match almost exactly to the ZetaTalk locations.
[15:31] <obany> RNTHOMAS: and is it the same as what the update on the sigthigns page is showing?
[15:31] <RNTHOMAS> I am talking of the Dec 13-14th Images...
[15:32] <RNTHOMAS> I am seeing about 3 moons in addition to the Niburu..  But again, it's not conclusive...
[15:32] <RNTHOMAS> I need to figure out how to fix the badly registered images from Dec 13...
[15:32] <RNTHOMAS> I am still very green at this...
[15:33] <obany> well but did you took a look at the sightings page yes? it has a update you know
[15:33] <RNTHOMAS> If Maurice and I can get Ian online, we'll have our own 12 INCH telescope and imagine online....
[15:33] <kindred> later everyone
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[15:34] <RNTHOMAS> Maurice owns a 12" telescope that's on loan to a friend named Ian.. he has probably done some upgrades and has all the coowel software for analysing images from this monster...
[15:34] <RNTHOMAS> from what I hear, I hope it's true...
[15:35] <obany> sounds like a good scope
[15:35] <RNTHOMAS> From what maurice tells me it would almost fill his livingroom (he has a very small living room).
[15:36] <RNTHOMAS> The big problem is trying to get the images to be stable...
[15:36] <RNTHOMAS> TGet the scope stable I mean...
[15:36] <QueenVee> obany: what is your opinion of the latest update?
[15:36] <RNTHOMAS> The slightest movement throws it out..
[15:37] <Ogmios> hi Queen
[15:37] <obany> still forming my opinion, but well for what i can say now, i see it again
[15:37] <obany> and you know what i mean by it
[15:37] <Ogmios> px?
[15:37] <RNTHOMAS> I have a hard time finding Px on Steve's SUM images...
[15:37] <obany> Ogmios: what do you think ? yes px
[15:38] <QueenVee> hi ogmios
[15:38] <islander> obany: Q?
[15:38] <obany> RNTHOMAS: http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/dell16.htm   http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/shavas20.htm
[15:39] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/zeta6.htm
[15:39] <islander> has there been a change to the files, I just downloaded and used to have a niceclear image on weekend, looks like snow on a tv set with todays download
[15:40] <obany> islander: see the urls i just gave
[15:40] <obany> since no one seems to notice the urls i am giving well
[15:40] <obany> !kick obany look at me for crying out loud
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[15:40] <QueenVee> i am paying attention, obany
[15:41] <obany> okay okay
[15:41] <RNTHOMAS> obany :- you're like the clap.. You keep comin back for more! lol!
[15:41] <obany> it's the others well who don't seem to pay attention to what i am trying to say
[15:41] <islander> just typing at same time, sorry obany
[15:41] <RNTHOMAS> The Second circle Image is what I have...
[15:42] <RNTHOMAS> And the loer one..
[15:42] <RNTHOMAS> And that's with the images BADLY REGISTERED!
[15:43] <RNTHOMAS> But In My Humble Opinion Steve needs to dump this personna idea...  They are moons...  
[15:43] <RNTHOMAS> We know Px has moons...  Sitchin talks of this...   
[15:44] <obany> RNTHOMAS: just look again : http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/zeta6.htm  and the red,white persona isn't Steve's idea btw
[15:47] <RNTHOMAS> I know... But the Sci.Astro people are tearing Steve to shreds over this idea...
[15:47] <RNTHOMAS> And it doesn't ring to well with me...
[15:47] <RNTHOMAS> obany:- And I have been looking at all your links btw...
[15:48] <obany> :)
[15:49] <RNTHOMAS> A personna is not a believable idea...
[15:49] <obany> yes, but just because those in sci.astro don't like the red, white persona info it should be droppped now way ...
[15:50] <obany> but it's not going to be dropped, just to make it more believable
[15:51] <RNTHOMAS> I know... That they'll continue to tear Steve to Shreddies on Sci.Astro because of it.
[15:53] <QueenVee> excuse me,be back in a bit
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[15:53] <Ogmios> we have storm in finland
[15:53] <Ogmios> again
[15:53] <obany> mmm :/
[15:55] <Ogmios> and drought still continues
[15:57] <islander> ogmios: how is your rainfall compared to average?
[16:03] <Ogmios> i cant say but ppl are whining all over
[16:03] <Ogmios> wells dry
[16:03] <Ogmios> next spring will be much worse
[16:03] <islander> are you getting clear or cloudy skies with no rain?
[16:04] <Ogmios> both
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[16:04] <islander> we are getting a constant thin layer of cloud on west coast of canada
[16:05] <islander> what are your plans for water supply in the future?
[16:10] <Ogmios> i have now own spring..but cant stay here
[16:11] <islander> i ran across a very old system that looks interesting using slabs of stone cilled by night air to capure moisture during the day
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[16:27] <islander> bye for now
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[16:31] <obany> hi and bye
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[16:41] <QueenVee> zetapal: just finished listening to that file, thanks
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[16:46] <mushin> HI
[16:46] <QueenVee> hello mushin
[16:46] <mushin> how's everything
[16:46] <QueenVee> not bad
[16:48] <mushin> a new comet has been sighted by a Japanese fellow-- could this be a cover story--I'm refering to National Geographic news (unknown vol)
[16:48] <QueenVee> nah, probably an actual comet
[16:49] <mushin> Retrograde orbit--traveling through hercules cluster
[16:50] <QueenVee> yes, i read about that
[16:51] <mushin> Where is Nancy now on sightings of X? What magnitude--white light.
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[16:52] <Monk> I seen a comet in my dream the other night
[16:52] <Nick> QueenVee: Do you know relatively speaking how far PX is from the sun at it's furthest point?
[16:52] <Monk> www.zetatalk.com
[16:53] <jed> when is planet X due to pass the orbit of Pluto?
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[16:55] <Nick> QueenVee are you there?
[16:56] <Monk> nick: all your answers http://www.zetatalk.com/search/freefind.htm
[16:56] <mushin> Imagine a craft as big as a world or a world operated like a craft--shades on Arthur Clark
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[17:00] <mushin> I like the grays that will come later. The ones discribed by remote viewers in the future. It seems the present bunch don't have a single human heart between them.
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[17:00] <QueenVee> hello Halow
[17:01] <QueenVee> mushin: what do you mean?
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[17:01] <QueenVee> heya JFull
[17:01] <butch> hello everyone
[17:01] <QueenVee> heya butch
[17:01] <JFull> Ha Q-V
[17:01] <butch> how's it goin QueenVee?
[17:02] <QueenVee> well, i just had myself a bit of a nap and i'm consequently feeling a little groggy
[17:02] <mushin> Remote viewers describe the Gray race of the future as a more compassionate bunch.
[17:02] <JFull> Whats the latest?
[17:02] <butch> naps during the day are like that...lol
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[17:03] <QueenVee> mushin: and what remote viewers would they be? and where is their prediction track record? the so-called remote viewers that everyone likes to quote have no track record to speak of -- why should we take them seriously?
[17:03] <JFull> any thing new on  your purposed contact list on your site?
[17:04] <QueenVee> JFull: there have been some additions to the PX sightings page on ZT: http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
[17:04] <mushin> The fellow who runs the Farsight Institute describes the grays of the future in his book Cosmic Voyage, Courtney ?? can't remember his full name.
[17:04] <QueenVee> JFull: working on it.....
[17:04] <JFull> I'll look
[17:04] <JFull> Great
[17:04] <QueenVee> Mushin: and where can i find his prediction track record?
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[17:05] <QueenVee> Mushin: there are many different kinds of "greys" right now -- why do you speak of them as though they were a single race?
[17:05] <QueenVee> hello habak -- what brings you to this room?
[17:05] <habak> curious
[17:05] <QueenVee> Mushin: there are STS greys and STO greys, so what you're saying doesn't make a lot of sense
[17:06] <mushin> Good question--Perhaps he can direct you he, has a website Farsight Institute (Atlanta Georgia)
[17:06] <mushin> I forgotten please define STS, STO
[17:06] <QueenVee> habak: well, this is a chatroom for people who are more than curious.... people who are seriously preparing for the May 2003 poleshift....
[17:07] <QueenVee> mushin: you must be joking -- have you even read ZetaTAlk?
[17:07] <mushin> OK service to Others service to self
[17:08] <mushin> What about the STO grays are the technically renogrades??
[17:08] <QueenVee> mushin: what are you talking about?
[17:09] <ukuz_zzz> Hi QV  ;)
[17:09] <QueenVee> hi ukuz, how goes it?
[17:09] <mushin> misspelled renegade sorry
[17:09] <ukuz_zzz> same ol, same ol...
[17:09] <QueenVee> renegades? from what?
[17:09] <mushin> The gray culture the gray system
[17:09] <QueenVee> ukuz: there's a fellow who had been coming to this room lately who lives in hawaii, by name of Humvee, have you talked to him yet?
[17:10] <QueenVee> mushin: what you are saying does not reflect the information provided by Zetatalk....
[17:11] <QueenVee> Habak: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[17:11] <ukuz_zzz> no, but I still rather talk to you... (youre better lookin... )   ;)
[17:11] <habak> 3 years
[17:12] <QueenVee> Habak: are you currently preparing for the poleshift?
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[17:12] <QueenVee> hi edude
[17:12] <edude> hi qv
[17:12] <mushin> Interesting- Ask Ed Dames about the grays, He knows
[17:13] <QueenVee> mushin: where's his track record?
[17:13] <habak> no....i might dig a shallow ditch or hole and put some kind of metal roof over it if the planet appears
[17:13] <mushin> Locked up in his Hawaii or Cal. offices
[17:13] <QueenVee> mushin: lol, how convenient
[17:14] <habak> if i see more signs...the red cross....more earthquakes, meteorites, slowing rotation
[17:15] <mushin> YA It's a tough prove regarding remote viewing -- however PX is a tough prove at present
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[17:15] <QueenVee> habak: i think you would find #earthchanges a channel more to your liking; this is a channel for those who are preparing now
[17:15] <QueenVee> uku: well, speak of the devil
[17:15] <ukuz_zzz> hehe
[17:16] <ukuz_zzz> Still... Im attracted to this room...
[17:16] <habak> do i just do the same thing but type in #earthchanges?
[17:16] <QueenVee> mushin: well, this is a channel for people who take PX and ZetaTalk seriously. i'm going to suggest that you go to Zetapal's #earthchanges channel instead -- it is more for those who like to speculate about PX and aren't preparing for it yet
[17:17] <QueenVee> just type the following: /join #earthchanges
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[17:17] <Zetapal> thx Queen
[17:17] <mushin> Discussion is always healthy--Bye
[17:18] <QueenVee> bye
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[17:20] <Nick> QueenVee: what do the zetas say about the sun's far off twin?
[17:20] <QueenVee> for anyone who's interested, there is some more information posted today on the ZT PX sightings page: http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
[17:20] <ukuz_zzz> did he forget to feed the parking meter?
[17:20] <QueenVee> ukuz: hehe
[17:21] <QueenVee> Nick: my brain is fuzzy right now, remind me about that theory....
[17:21] <QueenVee> Nick: what part of the US do you live in?
[17:21] <Nick> CA
[17:21] <Nick> QV: what theory?
[17:22] <QueenVee> so to what degree were you affected by the recent storms in california?
[17:22] <QueenVee> the theory about the sun's twin
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[17:22] <JFull> Q-V Now that mush is gone--I didn't want to get him started again but as I read on live zeta talk, Wasn't it said that the Large Grays that mined the mars moon, did have a mean streek?
[17:23] <Nick> QV: Well i don't live right on the coast, so i wan't hit by the ocean much
[17:23] <QueenVee> JFull: the zetas indicate that there are lots of greys with a mean streak.... like i said, there are STO and STS....
[17:23] <Nick> QV: I live about 5 miles from the coast
[17:23] <QueenVee> JFull: and it wasn't greys who mine Phobos, it's the Annunaki
[17:24] <JFull> oh I missed that
[17:24] <Nick> QV: do you want to talk about the storms?
[17:24] <QueenVee> Nick: so you probably just got some rain? someone here yesterday was saying that her nephew who lives in California reported fish raining down 3-4 blocks in from the shore....
[17:25] <Nick> weird...
[17:25] <QueenVee> Nick: just making conversation, Nick..... what did you want to talk about?
[17:25] <Nick> QV: People just don't see the weather changes trend...
[17:26] <Monk> i see the trends
[17:26] <QueenVee> well, Starstalker said her nephew has lived there for 15 years and had never seen anything like it; was kind of unnerved about it
[17:26] <Nick> QV: i was asking about our sun's twin...
[17:27] <QueenVee> Nick: i'm really happy to give you the information you're looking for, i'm just asking you to reaquaint me with what you're talking about...
[17:27] <QueenVee> then i can look it up in ZT....
[17:27] <Nick> QV: i have been looking for iy
[17:27] <Nick> *it
[17:27] <QueenVee> are you talking about PlanetX?
[17:28] <Nick> QV: no...the sun's twin star that PX slingshots around also
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[17:29] <QueenVee> Nick: is this what you're talking about? http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword26i.htm
[17:30] <Nick> QV: i was told by my phhysics teacher today that "if Earth had a dead twin we would have seen it from the probes sent out to Jupiter"
[17:30] <Nick> QV: is there a twin for every planet and star?
[17:30] <Monk> nick: check out nasa's webpage they have pics
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[17:31] <QueenVee> Nick: i dunno
[17:31] <QueenVee> hi jed
[17:31] <jed> hi Queen Vee
[17:32] <QueenVee> Nick: sorry, i'm confused by what you're talking about because ZT refers to PlanetX as the sun's "dark twin"....
[17:32] <QueenVee> hi scooby, how do?
[17:32] <jed> QV, do you have any info when Planet X will be as close to the sun as Pluto?
[17:33] <Nick> QV: there are THREE stars, dead and not dead, that are involved in this facade, including brown dwarf planet x, correct?
[17:33] <scooby-atwork> hi Queen
[17:33] <scooby-atwork> i am good
[17:33] <QueenVee> Nick: i think you will find this answers your question: http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s106.htm
[17:34] <Nick> QV: thanks, but is there some kind of animation i can see that shows all these complex orbits in action? Im not good with numbers.
[17:36] <jed> QV,  something that i have not been able to find yet on the zt site is when Planet X comes back thru after passing earth the first time.  i have seen mention of it's second pass but not when
[17:37] <Zetapal> jed - I think its in there - if I remember 7 years ? anybody?
[17:38] * JFull slaps ydgrasil around a bit with a large trout
[17:38] <JFull>  --right
[17:38] <jed> thanks zetapal.  my understanding is that it's 2nd pass won't be as destructive as the first?
[17:39] <ukuz_zzz> Sylvia Brown mentioned that PX would come like a thief in the night
[17:39] <ukuz_zzz> :(
[17:39] <jed> who is Sylvia Brown?
[17:40] <Zetapal> yes jed I believe thats right - maybe the earth is on the other side of the sun for 2nd pass - or something like that
[17:40] <ukuz_zzz> she was on Art Bell last night
[17:40] <ukuz_zzz> Psychic
[17:40] <QueenVee> jed: hold on, i'll find that for you....
[17:40] <jed> thanks Zpal
[17:40] <Tenshu> hihi
[17:41] <QueenVee> jed: ZT says that the second passing will occur 7 years later and that it will not be as destructive because it will be on the other side of the sun, and farther away....
[17:41] <QueenVee> hiya tenshu
[17:41] <jed> the zetas say we will see it approach as a red star for several weeks prior to the shift, not hardly a surprise when it comes
[17:41] <jed> thanks QV
[17:42] <QueenVee> jed: you don't think PX arriving in the sky will be a surprise for most people?
[17:42] <Zetapal> Sylvia Brown - pretty famous psychic - interviewed on Art Bell last night - in that interview she, for the first time gets on the cataclysm wagon due to her psychic impressions of the last 2 years - good interview - I have a commercial free mp3 of the interview for those who want it and can DCC recieve...
[17:43] <ukuz_zzz> maybe a thief in the night is symbolic of weeks
[17:43] <QueenVee> jed: for anyone not familiar with the PX theory, that thing will be quite a shock, believe me
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[17:43] <jed> QV- i am sure people will be surprised somewhat, but the phrase "like a thief in the night" suggests no warning at all, whereas seeing a unique red star for several weeks prior to PS will certainly be a warning
[17:44] <Zetapal> jed - good point
[17:44] <QueenVee> jed: well, in the larger scheme of things, it will all happen quite quickly
[17:44] <jed> that i am sure of
[17:44] <QueenVee> and i think that's what Sylvia Brown meant
[17:45] <ukuz_zzz> :
[17:45] <ukuz_zzz> :)
[17:45] <QueenVee> 7 weeks ain't a lot of time to comtemplate the end of the world as we know it
[17:45] <jed> yes, i can see where even if millions notice, they may have no appreciation for the idea of a pole shift about tohappen]
[17:45] <Zetapal> right
[17:46] <Zetapal> oh hey butch - didn't see you there :)
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[17:47] <jed> zetapal, do you have a specific survival type of shelter in mind for the PS?
[17:48] <jed> or anybody?
[17:48] <Tenshu> may sound dumb but no.
[17:49] <Zetapal> jed yes hold on i'll get you a link to a piece I did on shipping containers:
[17:49] <Zetapal> http://www.zetatalk.com/shelter/tshlt17q.htm
[17:49] <Zetapal> right click it and select open in new browser - might work easier
[17:50] <Zetapal> also alot of the info on the previous page here:
[17:50] <Zetapal> http://www.zetatalk.com/shelter/tshlt172.htm
[17:51] <jed> from that:"a cube forty feet high"  -  must be a mistake there.  no forty foot high cube is going to get delivered on a low-boy trailer that i know of.
[17:52] <Zetapal> and here's a link where to get those things - modification and free delivery: see pics on site:
[17:52] <Zetapal> http://www.cargocontainers.com/
[17:52] <ukuz_zzz> do you need a builing permit to have a shelter buried in the back yard?
[17:52] <Zetapal> no no forty foot high cube - is industry term for a container 40ft long - 9'6" high :)
[17:53] <Zetapal> 8ft wide
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[17:53] <jed> yeah, i figured.  bridge heights are 13' 6".  thanks for the link.   what do they cost?
[17:54] <Zetapal> about 3000 reconditioned - 5000 new (not smelly) :)
[17:55] <jed> not bad.  course, adding the wood bracing and insulation adds to the cost.  
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[17:55] <pilsdb> good day
[17:56] <jed> i had about 3000 in my concrete root cellar, 13 x 17 x 7'
[17:56] <jed> which may not be the ideal shelter for a PS
[17:57] <Zetapal> some people bury them - but see that above TT link for problems with doing that - instead consider partial bury (3ft) and/or covering it with concrete or papercrete; here's a papercrete link:
[17:57] <Zetapal> http://www.oikos.com/library/papercrete/
[17:57] <jed> yes i used to subscribe to a papercrete newsletter before it when flat.  trouble is that papercrete would need some protection from the predicted firestorms from the sky
[17:58] <QueenVee> ZetaPal: are you talking about shipping containers?
[17:58] <QueenVee> papercrete will be great AFTER the shift, but not DURING the shift
[17:59] <Zetapal> ukuz - thats one of the pluses of containers - no building permit necessary cause it is not considered a permanent structure - unless you go putting a toilet in but that is local code specific - see this link about that:
[17:59] <Zetapal> http://www.zetatalk.com/shelter/tshlt17r.htm
[18:00] <QueenVee> apparently the hard work is putting the airholes in the containers....
[18:00] <ukuz_zzz> a shipping container sounds pretty good too
[18:00] <ukuz_zzz> of course it'll have to probably be anchored
[18:02] <QueenVee> apparently you can RENT shipping containers, by the month....
[18:02] <jed> if it gets dislodged from the ground, i'd be afraid that the "sustained 250 mph winds" would take it for a long ride
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[18:03] <Zetapal> yes Queen - papercrete i propose could be put on or over a container to prevent oxidation and increase insulation, also to either seal two containers together side by side and/or to build off of the container - using the container as a core - you can ride out the shift in a less hazardous environment and if the setup survives move in afterwards - at the least a good way to store and secure your supplies
[18:03] <QueenVee> apologies, zp, for sticking my oar in before i knew what you were talking about....
[18:03] <jed> in my town they are treating the "temporary" garages, look like tent-like quansets, need a bldg permit if put up for more than 6 months.
[18:03] <JFull> but I like it , but would need lots of sand bags of partilll dug in
[18:04] <ukuz_zzz> :)
[18:05] <JFull> in 6 months you wont have to worry about a permit
[18:05] <jed> i think they would be very good set in completely , at least roof flush with the surface, but with one end sticking out of a hillside, for safety
[18:06] <QueenVee> gotta take the dog out, be back in a bit
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[18:06] <jed> Jfull: point conceded...
[18:07] <JFull> there has a bit of safty dissussion on not covering roof without reinforcement
[18:07] <jed> what were the main issues?
[18:08] <JFull> structial strength for one
[18:08] <jed> are you talking reinforced concrete roof?
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[18:08] <JFull> other escape outlets
[18:09] <JFull> no, weight on the roof when the earthquakes exert a lot of stress to any roof
[18:09] <jed> every subterrainian chamber should have at least 2 outlets.
[18:09] <JFull> not to be underestimated
[18:10] <jed> yes, i believe you are right.  i left the 2x10 joists that held the forms in place for my root cellar roof for such reason
[18:10] <JFull> what ever method you use don't let it be you coffen
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[18:11] <JFull> your coffen
[18:11] <jed> yes indeed.  but after recognizing that the PS could easily cause up and down motion as well, i've decided to build something else to ride out the quakes
[18:11] <JFull> you have a root celler now?
[18:12] <jed> yes. started it just before Y2K, and finished it last December as a result of being concerned about the Israeli conflict turning nuclear
[18:13] <JFull> my big question is will the quakes be happening along with the high wind.
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[18:13] <jed> i am now planning to come up with a design for a ferrocement ball , or cone or sub shaped vessel to bury half way
[18:14] <JFull> one at a time would be much better
[18:14] <Zetapal> I talked to a guy the other night who had buried one into a hillside and put about a foot and a half to two, of earth on top and had to reinforce it from inside with steel beams cause the roof sagged - the thing to remember about these things is that the walls themslves and roof aren't so strong, its the long square tube beams that run the length and square out the ends that have the strength and rigidity - one reason why i
[18:15] <jed> one at a time?
[18:16] <JFull> for something strong and easy for the PS is a short 4-6ft diameter culvert pipe
[18:16] <Zetapal> putting concrete or papercrete on it to reinforce it - also that guy who buried it? in ten years it will have corroded out because a bare metal object sufers ten times the corrosion as on the surface -
[18:16] <Nick> #earthchanges
[18:16] <Tenshu> what'll happen when the ground gets wet, though?
[18:17] <Zetapal> right
[18:17] <jed> Jfull: yes galvanized culvert would be easy
[18:17] <JFull> only ment just for PS ride
[18:17] <jed> Zetapal, wouldn't you treat the outside with regular tar ?
[18:17] <Zetapal> also the freeze thaw cycle of the soil will fatigue the steel
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[18:18] <Zetapal> jed - a good idea
[18:18] <JFull> no, a new gal culver will last for 20-30 years
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[18:18] <HBO> am I being kicked?
[18:19] <Zetapal> tar is cheap and will protect it, maybe a bit smelly, also you could use a zinc anode buried in the ground to sacrificially scavenge the corrosion like they do with pipelines and ship hulls
[18:19] <pilsdb> HBO doesn't look like it
[18:19] <jed> re freeze cycle: a few years ago i learned a trick from the guys that install decks on modular homes up here in Maine.  they dig down about a foot or less and put down 2" thick styrofoam about 2' dia. and put concrete patio block on top and build up from that.  the foam keeps the ground under the posts from freezing so the deck doesn't heave
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[18:19] <HBO> must be my old system :))
[18:19] <jed> hi HBO
[18:20] <HBO> hi jed, soes anyone know about my earthquake depth question?
[18:20] <JFull> have to put good ends on
[18:20] <jed> HBO what was the question?
[18:20] <Zetapal> there ya go jed - you got your mind working on it real good
[18:21] <HBO> depths of ocean quakes, is the reported depth below sea level or below the ocean floor?
[18:21] <jed> Zetapal: i've read that you can lay styrofoam down 4' wide around a foundation and it keeps the  ground around the whole foundation from freezing and cracking the foundation
[18:21] <Zetapal> excellent
[18:21] <jed> HBO: probably most likely  perhaps below ocean floor
[18:22] <HBO> makes sense, thx
[18:22] <jed> just a note, global warming is storming rain here in maine tonite instead of traditional snow and it's starting to leak...
[18:22] <JFull> have to go -- thanks all
[18:23] <zeta_curious> pretty warm  here in NC too
[18:23] <Tenshu> it just got done raining .. then it was sunny
[18:23] <ukuz_zzz> n/a in Hawaii...we only get about 60
[18:23] <ukuz_zzz> hehe
[18:23] <Tenshu> then it started snowing like crazy just a sec ago
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[18:23] <HBO> Zetapal, typical construction practice is to run 1.5 - 2 inches extruded styrofoam from the footing up to the slab bottom and out 2 ft - 4 ft under the slab
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[18:23] <pilsdb> It was much colder in October than November and December here
[18:23] <HBO> but the bottom of the footing has to be below the freeze level
[18:23] <DRGREEN> Hey everybody how was the session with nancy?
[18:24] <pilsdb> Hey QV the dogs give you a good walk?
[18:24] <QueenVee> one dog, just a big of a stroll....
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[18:24] <zeta_curious> evening QV
[18:24] <Zetapal> just as a side note since we're talking about containers - years ago when nancy was doin live zetatalk on Jeff Rense's radio show - I called in and asked them specifically if intermodal shipping containers properly placed would have the structural integrity necessary to survive the kinds of forces they were predicting - they replied in the affirmative with a sidenote that they preferred a dome solution.
[18:24] <QueenVee> DrGreen: the session with nancy isn't until tomorrow
[18:25] <DRGREEN> 'course.
[18:25] <Tenshu> yeah my friends and i were gonna go with dome here in awhile
[18:25] <DRGREEN> I'm off a day.
[18:25] <QueenVee> hello zetacurious
[18:25] <HBO> QueenVee, any good questions for Nancy yet?
[18:25] <jed> zetapal: "they" being the zetas?
[18:25] <QueenVee> HBO: just regional ones
[18:26] <HBO> what about the new comet sighted this week, or Bush's anti-missel defense program?
[18:26] <Zetapal> yes jed - zetas replied to my question directly in the affirmative
[18:26] <QueenVee> HBO: what would you like to know about those two things?
[18:26] <HBO> just wondering if they have any particular relevance
[18:27] <ukuz_zzz> could that comet be PX ?
[18:27] <jed> QV: do you think they would mind a question about whether one should evacuate if one's current So. Central Me. location is over 360, in elevation and over 40 miles inland?
[18:27] <zeta_curious> i wonder how many more weeks before PS is the talk around the water coolers?
[18:27] <HBO> no, not right coordinates for PX
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[18:27] <ukuz_zzz> ok
[18:27] <DRGREEN> Does anyone know how to median combine fitfiles in IRIS? I have processed the dec14 images and can see px quite clear now. I would like to know if it will be more visible when mediancombined and how to do it. Anyone? Ukuz?
[18:28] <jed> zetapal: i had heard that the containers might not be strong enough so it's interesting that they were positive about them
[18:28] <zeta_curious> in other words, when will this topic break into public consciousness
[18:28] <ukuz_zzz> i cant even view them
[18:28] <ukuz_zzz> :(
[18:28] <QueenVee> jed: they will just repeat the general guidelines to you....
[18:28] <KeyBoarDz> Has anyone posted jpegs of those sightings?
[18:28] <jed> QV ok
[18:29] <QueenVee> Key: yes, they are now in the SIGHTINGS section of the zetatalk site
[18:29] <DRGREEN> :(
[18:29] <KeyBoarDz> Thanks Q
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[18:30] <QueenVee> jed: best way to get information from zetas on locations is to find everything that already exists about it on ZT, then post the question not already answered....
[18:30] <Zetapal> jed - yeah I got it from the horses mouth so to speak - they did say that it neede to be properly placed- avoiding a rockslide or something like that - also soil liquification could be a problem - but the structure issue was a thumbs up and they don't burn either
[18:31] <HBO> see you tomorrow, just finished a 300 mile drive and need to kick back
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[18:32] <QueenVee> jed: ZT has given guidelines how how high and high inland you need to be from the coast -- is there something more specific you want to know about your location?
[18:32] <Tenshu> queen is it okay if i talk to you about somethin in priv?
[18:32] <QueenVee> tenshu: okay
[18:33] <jed> well, they had predicted an uplift just before the PS in my area of about 450' so my total elevatio would be over 700.  just wondered if that would increase the possibility of not having to go 100 miles inland
[18:33] <Zetapal> Those of you who want the Sylvia Brown interview with Art Bell from last night, I can DCC send it, 2 files, commercial free...
[18:34] <fetus> zp here here!!
[18:34] <fetus> my gf loves sb
[18:35] <Zetapal> ok fetus heads up
[18:35] <jed> so how do i give you my email in private?
[18:36] <Zetapal> fetus its a great interview
[18:36] <jed> or what is DCC?
[18:36] <fetus> does she talk at all about next summer?
[18:36] <Zetapal> jed pvt msg coming your way in your main irc window...
[18:37] <QueenVee> jed: hold on, i'm getting to your question....
[18:37] <zeta_curious> a short summary of the interview, ZP?
[18:40] <QueenVee> jed: it seems this is the key phrase for you: "Sloshing in the Atlantic, and unpredictable water movement into and out of the St. Lawrence Seaway, will result in terrifying moments for those any nearer to the coast. Return to the coastline after some days have passed, and the water seems to have settled into tides that are predictable."
[18:40] <jed> QV:  guess that means better safe than sorry. thanks
[18:41] <QueenVee> jed: yeah, you'll be high enough in that your land will not sink below the water, but there are other factors -- that "bobbing up" of the land is going to be pretty violent....
[18:42] <QueenVee> and there's a fairly good risk of losing the elevation within two years, during which you'll have to relocate anyway, only it will be harder to do so then...
[18:42] <jed> doesn't seem anyway to avoid it.  did they ever go into any particulars of how violent?
[18:42] <QueenVee> jed: well, they comment on the same "bobbing up" of land that will happen in Toronto, and there describe it as "heart stopping"
[18:43] <jed> about losing the elevation, i calculated their estimates to end up leaving me on a island of some significant size off what will be left of Maine.
[18:43] <jed> "heartstopping" doesn't sound good....
[18:45] <QueenVee> jed: well, my attitude is, if you have the means to move somewhere less risky, do it; if you don't, then do what you can and think positively hope for the best
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[18:47] <inkpen> hello
[18:47] <QueenVee> hiya inkpen -- how goes it?
[18:47] <inkpen> it goes
[18:48] <pilsdb> hey ink
[18:48] <inkpen> the full moon is late
[18:48] <Zetapal> oh really...?
[18:48] <pilsdb> too many clouds (FULL of snow) to notice
[18:49] <inkpen> by a day , it was supposed to be yesterday... but was only waxing gibbus
[18:49] <QueenVee> the full moon has been highly visible here the last couple of nights...
[18:49] <KeyBoarDz> I wonder if the combination of the full-moon and solstice will produce any quakes...
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[18:49] <QueenVee> Key: why would that produce quakes?
[18:49] <KeyBoarDz> I've heard of correlations between full-moons and quakes...
[18:50] <QueenVee> really? where?
[18:50] <jed> perhaps because it is directly opposite the sun?
[18:50] <KeyBoarDz> I'll try and find the article.
[18:50] <jed> ie the earth directly between sun and moon
[18:51] <QueenVee> i know the moon affects the tide....
[18:51] <pilsdb> and some people
[18:51] <jed> there are at least two springs in the world that are affected by the moon, one in Maine, one in Japan
[18:52] <jed> yeah, the moon sure looked full the other night from here
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[18:53] <inkpen> hi west coast
[18:53] <West_coast> hello
[18:53] <KeyBoarDz> http://www.rice.edu/armadillo/Projects/Ecodillo/Earthfocus/Fall93/efquake.htm   (Do Tides Affect Earthquakes)
[18:54] <QueenVee> hello WestCoast -- what brings you to this room?
[18:54] <inkpen> the moon is definately not wanning...mabey it has been ful for 2 days?
[18:54] <West_coast> curiosity
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[18:56] <inkpen> how did you find this channel west_coast?
[18:56] <QueenVee> West_Coast: This is a chatroom for people who are more than curious, who are seriously preparing for the poleshift. i think you will find the #earthchanges channel more to your interest
[18:56] <West_coast> actually, I am a lot more than curious
[18:56] <QueenVee> how so?
[18:57] <West_coast> Have prepared some, but more to do
[18:57] <QueenVee> ah, ok
[18:57] <QueenVee> where on the west coast are you?
[18:57] <West_coast> North Puget Sound
[18:57] <QueenVee> BC?
[18:57] <inkpen> washington?
[18:57] <West_coast> No, Bellingham
[18:58] <QueenVee> state?
[18:58] <inkpen> seattle
[18:58] <West_coast> washingtion
[18:58] <inkpen> nevermind
[18:58] <QueenVee> westcoast: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[18:58] <West_coast> Aware of poleshift for a month or so
[18:58] <inkpen> coast to coast?
[18:59] <QueenVee> wow, and you've already started to prepare?
[18:59] <West_coast> Am convinced beyond doubts
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[18:59] <jed> QV: have you ever checked out the Huttoncommentaries site re: pole shift predictions by Cayce in relation to current knowledge about magnetic and rotational pole migrations?
[18:59] <QueenVee> hello txroz
[18:59] <inkpen> hi txroz
[19:00] <QueenVee> jed: no, gotta link?
[19:00] <txroz> hi all
[19:00] <Monk> FWIW, The NSA has made employees of Nasa and government officials and others to sign an agreement that they cannot divulge information about any catastrophic event that they know about. Military people come under this also.
[19:00] <Monk> That is why you cannot find "official" documentation of this event.
[19:00] <Monk> They aren't allowed to tell.
[19:00] <Monk> These are all Nasa abstracts which are currently not available concerning Planet X. I wonder why???
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[19:01] <QueenVee> Monk: yeah, saw that site and posting
[19:01] <Monk> maybe something to ask nancy ?
[19:01] <pilsdb> url?
[19:01] <Monk> http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/
[19:02] <QueenVee> Monk: what specifically did you want to ask?
[19:02] <pilsdb> thnaks
[19:02] <pilsdb> thanks
[19:02] <Monk> well just a suggestion myself I dont really care about it
[19:02] <Monk> you probaly have all the questions already
[19:02] <Monk> I know the government would do something like this
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[19:03] <Ummite> hello all
[19:03] <pilsdb> The page cannot be found
[19:03] <pilsdb> The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
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[19:03] <inkpen> hi ummite
[19:03] <QueenVee> Monk: well, there's already plenty of ZT information on how NASA is withholding info about PX
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[19:03] <Ummite> Queen can you op me plz
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[19:04] <Kindred> wow 24 people
[19:04] <Ummite> thx
[19:04] <inkpen> hi kindred
[19:04] <QueenVee> hi Kindred
[19:04] <Kindred> hi ink
[19:04] <Kindred> QV greetings
[19:04] <Kindred> QVwhat did you think of thst interview
[19:04] <QueenVee> OKAY, GUYS: THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO PROPOSE QUESTIONS FOR NANCY'S ZETATALK SESSION TOMORROW
[19:05] <inkpen> oh man i had a good one but i forget what it was
[19:05] <QueenVee> lol
[19:05] <Kindred> do you still think asking Nancy about syvia Brown is a good idea
[19:05] <pilsdb> couldn't have been that good :)
[19:05] <QueenVee> sure, unless better questions come up
[19:06] <Kindred> So any thoughts on that interview QV
[19:06] <inkpen> i really really am curios about rods, despite the fact she hasnt said anything about them
[19:07] <QueenVee> well, i'd like to ask about the Russian installation at Yamantau Mountain discussed in this article: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=34
[19:07] <QueenVee> inkpen: well, she's just not going to answer that one
[19:07] <inkpen> damn
[19:07] <from_Texas> yes QV that would be good
[19:08] <Kindred> yes I would like to know if it is being prepared for the shift or some other purpose
[19:08] <Ummite> Nick from where are you?
[19:08] <QueenVee> Kindred: yes, exactly
[19:08] <inkpen> good artical
[19:09] <QueenVee> mmmm, zetas refuse to predict earthquakes, volcano eruptions, etc, but i wonder if they would comment on this: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=44
[19:10] <QueenVee> i'm just watching a news report on how much food prices have skyrocketed in the last few months....
[19:11] <QueenVee> ZetaTalk right again
[19:11] <Kindred> Qv where is this south sister
[19:11] <inkpen> i wounder if the economy has already collapsed yet we remain unaware
[19:11] <West_coast> supply and demand
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[19:12] <QueenVee> wb jed
[19:12] <Tenshu> it collapsed awhile ago, like zt said.. just the people on the "inside" have been spending their own money to keep it alive
[19:12] <jed> hi QV, got that link :  www.huttoncommentaries.com
[19:12] <QueenVee> quite right, tenshu
[19:12] <jed> what collapsed?
[19:13] <Zetapal> the markets are being propped up
[19:13] <jed> oh, yep. thanks
[19:13] <West_coast> plunge protection team
[19:14] <jed> just one more line in the "writing on the wall"
[19:15] <QueenVee> jed: wow, thanks for that site, looks really good
[19:16] <QueenVee> Kindred: in answer to your question about the Sylvia Brown interview -- as i've commented before, Brown is very good on one-on-one predictions, contacting spirits on the other side, but has had a terrible track record in terms of world predictions.....
[19:16] <jed> QV: you're very welcome.  there is one article that is really interesting re: the migrations of the poles
[19:16] <inkpen> so when are we going to realize the collapse for what it really is?
[19:17] <QueenVee> so the fact that Sylvia Brown has predicted something doesn't make me go "Oh, it's definitely going to happen".... however.....
[19:17] <scooby-atwork> the day after the pole shift
[19:17] <QueenVee> i think that it's extremely interesting that she is coming out with this all of a sudden.....
[19:18] <QueenVee> i'm very curious as to why she has
[19:18] <Kindred> Qv - Was very interesting how closely some of her prediction coincided with Zetatalk events
[19:18] <QueenVee> what does everybody else think?
[19:18] <Tenshu> it's just the fact that the US doesn't want the people to believe that it's failing itself.
[19:18] <jed> QV: contacting "spirits" as opposed to contacting someones like zetas (assuming they are who they say they are) are two entirely different things.  contact with the spirit world vis a vis spiritual mediums is forbiddon
[19:18] <Tenshu> ^
[19:18] <QueenVee> jed: contact with the spirit world vis a vis spiritual mediums is forbiddon  -- WHAT??? Forbidden by who?
[19:19] <inkpen> what makes you say that jed?
[19:19] <QueenVee> just saw on TV that there's a major snowstorm in Oregon....
[19:20] <Tenshu> US been getting hit by alot of storms the past few weeks.. very odd, hm!
[19:20] <pilsdb> just finished with about 15 inches here
[19:20] <QueenVee> ha: Lott has finally resigned
[19:20] <inkpen> its unseasonably warm here
[19:20] <jed> in the holy scriptures.  one of the things which warranted capital punishment, if i remember correctly.  for instance, King Saul asked a medium to call up Samuel's (the prophet's) ghost/spirit, and when Samuel did in fact appear he declared that because Saul had in fact broken the taboo, he would loose the kingdom and his life.
[19:20] <Kindred> Qv - what about the information released regarding Mars and the proximity to earth this coming August
[19:21] <QueenVee> jed: what has that got to do with anything? we are not christian fundamentlists here...
[19:21] <inkpen> ummm how does scripture make that form of channeling forbiden? whats your point?
[19:21] <QueenVee> i'm sure such fundamentalists would have an equal problem with someone who claims to be communicating with aliens...
[19:21] <Kindred> Is this one of those disinformation campaigns to lead us away from the fact PX is coming
[19:22] <jed> QV, doesn't matter what one believes.  what matters is what is real.  doesn't matter if i do or don't believe the sun is gonna rise tomorrow,  it's gonna anyways.
[19:22] <QueenVee> Kindred: in a word, yes
[19:22] <Zetapal> Me? I'm glad to see Sylvia come out of the closet and jump on the cataclysm bandwagon after all these years due to impressions she has has over the last 2 yrs - Welcome to the family Sylvia - I'm wondering if its time to put together an audio montage of all these semi-famous people coming out and saying that a poleshift event is real - sound like a good idea?
[19:22] <inkpen> ha!
[19:22] <inkpen> if the bible told you you were going to be a train in 5 minutes youd believe it?
[19:23] <QueenVee> jed: please don't use this channel to proselytize your religious beliefs
[19:23] <Kindred> So then when we see a red planet in the sky they want us thinking it is Mars being a familiar sight and all instead of PX whitch would send up panic signals
[19:23] <jed> QV: i am one who believes that the scriptures are literally God's Word.  that fact that zetas may be telepathically in communication with Nancy doesn't seem to break any of God's rules.  what they say, however bears comparing with what God says.
[19:24] <Tenshu> they already begun with the Mars thing
[19:24] <inkpen> even though writen by the hands of man
[19:24] <QueenVee> jed: i'm glad you don't find any conflict with your religious beliefs and zetatalk; but please don't try to push your beliefs on others
[19:24] <Tenshu> i think i read something about NASA saying "this next year, mars will be closest to earth than it has been in a long time"
[19:25] <QueenVee> Kindred: yes, that's EXACTLY the purpose of it -- no, it's not PX, it's just mars....
[19:25] <jed> i was just answering your question.  sorry.  perhaps ishould leave?
[19:25] <QueenVee> no, don't have to leave
[19:26] <jed> thankyou.,  do not mean to be disruptive. just honest with the facts as i understand
[19:27] <inkpen> g2g now bbtomarrow
[19:27] <Tenshu> jed it's always good to see others people's views, to me
[19:27] <QueenVee> Kindred: when i read that about Mars, my heart just sunk. because it really is a VERY GOOD cover story for PX....
[19:27] <inkpen> once again thnx zp!
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[19:27] <Kindred> Tenshu - yes closer to Earth then it has been for the last 50,000 years
[19:27] <Tenshu> i think other people feel the same way too, here.
[19:27] <Kindred> very coincidental I find
[19:27] <Tenshu> yeah that's the time.. i couldnt' remember the exact year
[19:28] <Tenshu> years*
[19:28] <jed> thanks tenshu
[19:28] <Kindred> yes QV the dis informaon has definitaly begun if this is the fact
[19:29] <Tenshu> np :)
[19:29] <Kindred> QV does it hold any water though
[19:29] <QueenVee> how are we going to argue with people when they say, yeah, but they say it's just mars....
[19:29] <QueenVee> no, it doesn't -- but that won't matter
[19:29] <Kindred> Hard to sway them any other way
[19:29] <West_coast> total disconnect
[19:30] <jed> as usual, the people who don't already suspect that the END as prophecized through so many cultures is about upon us for so many different obvious reasons just won't get it no matter what
[19:30] <Kindred> So then they may blam the global catastrophy on Mars then and say it wont last long
[19:30] <QueenVee> yes, exactly
[19:30] <scooby-atwork> jed: bingo!
[19:30] <Tenshu> hehe
[19:31] <Tenshu> you ever noticed that some people hate history and wish to ignore it? that's a possibility that could stop people from knowing anything different
[19:31] <Tenshu> from what NASA or the government tells them.
[19:32] <QueenVee> people who try and warn others will be dismissed as alarmists and nutbars
[19:32] <scooby-atwork> and dooomsayers
[19:32] <West_coast> no kidding
[19:32] <scooby-atwork> like me...
[19:32] <scooby-atwork> : )
[19:32] <jed> the one thing that has impressed me about the zetas is the emphasis upon "service to others" philosophy.  this really is the defining character of the "purpose" the Creator has given us
[19:32] <Zetapal> I tend to think that there are some perhaps many, balanced between the two extremes and the appearance of pX in the sky will. for them, be the straw that breaks the camels back, they may then believe
[19:32] <QueenVee> yes, it is at the heart of all religious traditions, in their purest form
[19:32] <scooby-atwork> jed: right, and the fact that Nancy is not pushing anything - like a book or a movie
[19:33] <scooby-atwork> and all the info is on the website for FREE
[19:33] <QueenVee> zetapal: yes, i think you're right
[19:33] <scooby-atwork> ZP: i agree with that too
[19:33] <scooby-atwork> like my brother
[19:34] <jed> yes, an important point, scooby.  it counterdicts every ordinary motive
[19:34] <Kindred> Qv will PX be at its most visible on or about May 25
[19:34] <Zetapal> and Art Bell - though he may know already, his retirement is quite timely don't you think?
[19:34] <Kindred> MAy 15 sorry
[19:36] <QueenVee> Kindred: well, i would imagine it would be, yes
[19:36] <QueenVee> but ZT says it will be very clear in the sky 7 weeks prior
[19:37] <jed> have the zetas said anything about one of the supervolcanos blowing during the PS?  i would think at least 1 or 2 might
[19:37] <QueenVee> jed: all of them
[19:38] <jed> that is very bad.  not likely even 10% will survive if that is the case
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[19:38] <Kindred> hmmmm curiouse as to why Nasa or who ever would then say Aug would be best for the sighting of Mars
[19:38] <Tenshu> hehe kinda weird?!
[19:38] <West_coast> disinformation
[19:39] <Tenshu> QV, remember me telling you about that band yesterday?
[19:39] <QueenVee> Kindred: the mars story is not false; that IS when Mars will be closest to the earth -- but it's going to be used as a cover story
[19:39] <Tenshu> there's a song on that list, called disposition.
[19:39] <Tenshu> not a very long song or very many lyrics but it says..
[19:39] <Tenshu> "Mention this to me. Mention something, mention anything. Mention this to me.. Watch the weather change."
[19:40] <QueenVee> mmm, interesting
[19:40] <Tenshu> hehe yea.. i had that song in my head all day.. i woke up, it was raining.. clouds scattered and became sunny
[19:40] <Tenshu> clouds came back, and it started snowing.
[19:41] <Kindred> I wounder if it will be possible then to see to red planets in our sky then
[19:42] <Kindred> 3 mounths apart maybe not
[19:42] <Kindred> months
[19:42] <jed> has anybody here invested in large tanks or containers for storing water
[19:43] <QueenVee> not yet
[19:43] <jed> or researched the most likely kind to survive
[19:43] <West_coast> smaller tanks easier to handle
[19:43] <jed> yes, and increases the chances that at least one will not leak'
[19:43] <Kindred> investing in good filters probably best advised
[19:43] <West_coast> 30 gallon
[19:44] <West_coast> Britta
[19:44] <Kindred> perhaps
[19:44] <Kindred> gonna buy some stack in britta
[19:44] <Kindred> stock
[19:45] <Kindred> hmmm then agian money wont mean much in 6 months illit
[19:45] <West_coast> barter
[19:46] <jed> i would like to recommend hosfelt electronics, 1-800 524-5414 to get their catalogue. they have great led lights.  i bought one with 4 white leds for about $35 a few months ago.  supposed to last 700 hours on 3 AA batteries.
[19:46] <Tenshu> QV are you familiar with the Pleiadians?
[19:47] <Kindred> do they have a web site Jed
[19:47] <txroz> lol
[19:47] <West_coast> Costco.. LED lights
[19:47] <Kindred> tx
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[19:51] <QueenVee> Tenshu: yes, i am familiar
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[19:53] <jed> re: LED light  try www.hosfelt.com and then click on X LIGHTS
[19:53] <Tenshu> alright just wondering hehe.
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[19:53] <Kindred> thank you Jed
[19:53] <jed> also, do a google search for US Plastic Corp.  which carries a large variety of plastic tanks
[19:53] <jed> Kindred: your welcome
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[19:54] <Ralf> err
[19:54] <Tenshu> lol
[19:54] <Ralf> i really should change the default back message
[19:54] <Kindred> ?
[19:54] <Kindred> ?
[19:54] <Kindred> ?
[19:54] <Kindred> yeah
[19:55] <jed> really.  that was more than i needed to know
[19:55] <Kindred> good to know I guess
[19:55] <Ralf> it's default
[19:55] <Ralf> as in
[19:55] <Kindred> congrats
[19:55] <Ralf> if i just type /back
[19:55] <Ralf> that's what it says
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[19:57] <QueenVee> ralf, ralf, ralf
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[19:57] <jed> well, getting late, take care all, seeya later
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[19:57] <Tenshu> i'm so glad school is out for awhile
[19:58] <Kindred> how old tenshu
[19:58] <Ralf> hi hi
[19:59] <Tenshu> 16
[19:59] <Kindred> those were he days
[19:59] <Tenshu> ehe.
[19:59] <scooby-atwork> ralf: glad to hear it!
[20:00] <Zetapal> Bush to propose requiring ISPs to monitor Net
[20:00] <Zetapal> http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/4779109.htm
[20:01] <Kindred> Who here thinks Bush is going to lead us all down a very rocky road
[20:01] <QueenVee> Jeeezuz
[20:02] <Tenshu> I think Bush is an idiot but some people in my school disagree with me
[20:02] <West_coast> careful what you say
[20:02] <Tenshu> oh.. has anyone read this Self Reliance and Civil Disobedience?
[20:02] <Tenshu> hehe i know.
[20:02] <Tenshu> just had to be blunt bout it.
[20:02] <Kindred> War in this day and age is a very dangerouse thing
[20:02] <QueenVee> hey,i'm probably on terrorist lists already
[20:02] <Tenshu> rofl same
[20:03] <QueenVee> Kindred: and it wasn't in previous ages?
[20:03] <Kindred> more so now dont you tink
[20:03] <Kindred> radicals more aggressive
[20:03] <QueenVee> Kindred: not for the soldiers
[20:04] <QueenVee> Kindred: and who do you define as the radicals? the other side? war has always been vicious
[20:05] <QueenVee> The american revolutionary soldiers were considered "radicals" at one time
[20:05] <Kindred> well the uS and Canada always been reletivley safe from attack but 9/11 says we are no longer
[20:05] <QueenVee> Canada is still safe from attack. no one is after us.
[20:06] <Kindred> reprocussion will affect us
[20:06] <QueenVee> not if we mind our own business
[20:06] <Kindred> biological woepons if used on the Us may come this way
[20:07] <QueenVee> well, it's about time that Americans experience some repercussions from the warmongering of its government
[20:07] <Kindred> Well dont like the idea of war noe the less
[20:08] <Tenshu> thanks :(
[20:08] <QueenVee> who does?
[20:08] <West_coast> Anyone here have a shelter yet?
[20:08] <Kindred> one of the good things I hope comes out of the PS NO more government
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[20:09] <Kindred> or at least corrupt government
[20:09] <Tenshu> hopefully people will realize they don't need a government ruling their lives
[20:10] <Kindred> good idea at one piont but with great powers comes great responsibilty and power almost certainly corrupts
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[20:11] <Tenshu> Self Reliance :))
[20:11] <QueenVee> well, the desire for power for power's sake is STS, and there won't be any of those individuals left within a generation....
[20:11] <Ummite> i will be back i must go on undernet to meet a friend see ya later all
[20:11] <Kindred> yes promise in the new Earth
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[20:15] <Kindred> Qv - One of the most interesting moment s of the Slyvia Brown interview was when she siad she couldnt see anyhting past 100 years for some reason like humanity was no longer there
[20:15] <Kindred> wounder if thid is because we will be shifting to 4th density at that time
[20:15] <Zetapal> right Kindred - icaught that too - dimensional shift?
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[20:16] <Kindred> she mentioned 50 years of horrilble conditions then 50 years of peace and then nothing
[20:16] <QueenVee> yes, very interesting
[20:17] <QueenVee> fits the ZT scenario exactly
[20:17] <Kindred> i wish I could have talked to her to ask if she new of nancy
[20:17] <West_coast> humans die out ?
[20:17] <Kindred> I called but coundnt get thru
[20:18] <Kindred> that alone just amazed me
[20:18] <QueenVee> WestCoast: 100 years after the shift, humans on earth will switch to 4th density...
[20:18] <West_coast> ok
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[20:18] <Kindred> and brought me one step closer to thinking al this is actually happening
[20:18] <Valdrix> hello
[20:18] <QueenVee> hey valdrix
[20:19] <West_coast> all this is actually happening
[20:23] <Valdrix> hehe..its realy packed in here for the small amount of chit chat
[20:24] <Tenshu> i'm gonna try this meditation out
[20:24] <Tenshu> ill brb :)
[20:24] <Kindred> yes why is that
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[20:24] <Kindred> are people just thinking to them selves or in private chats
[20:24] <Valdrix> not sure kindred...i think maby its me
[20:24] <Valdrix> lol
[20:25] <QueenVee> valdrix: well, we've been chatting all evening....
[20:25] <Valdrix> nod
[20:25] <West_coast> lot of lag, here
[20:25] <QueenVee> Valdrix: zetapal has started another channel called #earthchanges -- it might be more lively over there
[20:25] <Kindred> pretty good chat too
[20:25] <Valdrix> hmm..
[20:25] <tenshu`med> it's about the same. they are talking about God right now
[20:25] <Zetapal> lol
[20:26] <Zetapal> wonder if God is talking about us? wouldn't THAT be something
[20:26] <tenshu`med> anyhow, i'm gonna try these techniques i just read.
[20:26] <tenshu`med> you never know :)
[20:26] <tenshu`med> i should just shut down comp cuz stupid thing is making so much noise
[20:26] <tenshu`med> oh well.
[20:26] <tenshu`med> i can deal wit it. brb
[20:28] <QueenVee> well, i gotta go take the dog out for his final pee of the night -- be back in about 1/2 hour
[20:28] <fetus> zp: this is good.
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[20:28] <Zetapal> yeah fetus, told you man, change is in the air isn't it?
[20:28] <fetus> its like a zetatalk that would appeal to a whole different crowd.
[20:29] <fetus> "spirt guide"
[20:29] <Zetapal> sure
[20:29] <Zetapal> this message is leaking in from numerous angels now
[20:30] <Zetapal> angles
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[20:30] <fetus> yes
[20:31] <fetus> amazing stuff...my gf is eating it up.
[20:31] <Zetapal> great
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[20:32] <Zetapal> fetus let me send you a song, surprisingly poleshifty...
[20:32] <fetus> shoot
[20:32] <Zetapal> for later...you can play it for your girlfriend
[20:33] <fetus> :)
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[20:36] <Zetapal> its a chick singin it - chorus is telling and the later verse
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[21:05] <scooby-atlunch> *yawn*
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[21:12] <Nick> seey'all
[21:12] <Nick> bye
[21:12] <QueenVee> nite
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[21:24] <tenshu`med> hm.. i think i'm gonna go to sleep.
[21:24] <QueenVee> nite
[21:24] <tenshu`med> mind took alot in right there and I think I'm gonna work things out subconsciously hehe
[21:24] <tenshu`med> night qv.
[21:24] <QueenVee> sleep and dream well
[21:24] * tenshu`med nod
[21:25] <tenshu`med> Peace love and light be with you all. =)
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[21:34] <scooby-atwork> nite
[21:35] <QueenVee> nite scooby
[21:35] <scooby-atwork> lol...
[21:35] <scooby-atwork> not me...
[21:35] <QueenVee> oy
[21:35] <scooby-atwork> <=====wishes...
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[21:35] <QueenVee> lol, how many more hours, scooby?
[21:35] <scooby-atwork> how are you doing tonite Queen Vee?
[21:35] <scooby-atwork> i am here till midnite
[21:35] <scooby-atwork> PST
[21:36] <Monkster> another 2 hours :)
[21:36] <QueenVee> i've not been feeling well today, upset tummy, i think i may have the flue
[21:36] <scooby-atwork> : (
[21:36] <QueenVee> but it's not life threatening  :-)
[21:36] <Monkster> That sucks my mom just got over the flu she was sick for a month
[21:36] <scooby-atwork> sorry to hear that, but glad you're gonna tough it out...
[21:36] <QueenVee> oy, that's a long time
[21:37] <scooby-atwork> we think my 2 1/2 year old has Krupe (?)
[21:37] <QueenVee> Croup
[21:37] <scooby-atwork> coughs like a seal
[21:37] <scooby-atwork> ah... thank you
[21:37] <QueenVee> poor baby
[21:37] <scooby-atwork> runny nose
[21:37] <scooby-atwork> but is raring to go'
[21:37] <QueenVee> bless is heart
[21:37] <scooby-atwork> her
[21:37] <scooby-atwork> thank you tho
[21:37] <QueenVee> what's her name?
[21:38] <scooby-atwork> Bella Grace
[21:38] <QueenVee> oh, lovely name
[21:38] <scooby-atwork> http://bellagrace.com
[21:38] <scooby-atwork> thank you
[21:39] <scooby-atwork> yeah, she's a cutiepie
[21:39] <scooby-atwork>  and quite a talker too
[21:39] <scooby-atwork> talks a blue streak as my mom would say
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[21:39] <QueenVee> mmm, that link doesn't work
[21:39] <QueenVee> would you believe that i was an extremely quiet and shy child who rarely talked?
[21:40] <scooby-atwork> try it with the www
[21:40] <QueenVee> i don't know what happened...
[21:40] <scooby-atwork> http://www.bellagrace.com
[21:40] <Monkster> www.
[21:40] <scooby-atwork> QV: yes I would
[21:40] <QueenVee> lol
[21:40] <scooby-atwork> you had a "revealing moment or something
[21:40] <Monkster> I was a quiet and shy kid alot
[21:40] <Monkster> also
[21:41] <scooby-atwork> me2
[21:41] <Monkster> Im still shy
[21:41] <QueenVee> my mother actually took me to the doctor to see if there was something wrong with me
[21:41] <scooby-atwork> lol
[21:41] <Monkster> its different with chating though dont have to look face to face
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[21:42] <QueenVee> oh, my, she really IS a cutie pie
[21:42] <QueenVee> well, no one thinks of me as shy now....
[21:44] <QueenVee> scooby: working til midnight, that sucks
[21:44] <Monkster> I would love to have scoobys job
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[21:53] <Monkster> hi humvee
[21:53] <humvee> hello - swell non-definitive images
[21:54] <scooby-atwork> sorry... got a long call...
[21:54] <scooby-atwork> monkster: do you have any patience?
[21:54] <scooby-atwork> QV != shy
[21:54] <QueenVee> sorry, humvee
[21:55] <scooby-atwork> QV; the midnite shift ain't too bad...
[21:55] <Monkster> yes
[21:55] <scooby-atwork> i come home and everyone is asleep....
[21:55] <scooby-atwork> monk: you could prolly put up with the people I talk to then...
[21:55] <humvee> no worry I really like them it seems that the px will slowly inc in definition over the next weeks ahead
[21:55] <Monkster> yea
[21:55] <scooby-atwork> http://haywoodjahelpme.blogspot.com
[21:56] <QueenVee> we have a new member of our household, a four-year old calico cat named Angel....
[21:56] <scooby-atwork> did you choose her or did she choose you?
[21:58] <QueenVee> scooby: did you write that?
[21:59] <QueenVee> re Angel: a neighbour just moved her boyfriend in and he's allergic to the cat, so she was looking for a home for her; and my mother just lost her cat about a month ago.... so it was serendipity....
[21:59] <Monkster> like the page scooby funny
[22:00] <QueenVee> yes, very funny
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[22:08] <humvee> is this the chat room for the alt zt session w/Nancy tomorrow?
[22:09] <QueenVee> yessir
[22:09] <humvee> so q before 2030utc
[22:09] <QueenVee> yep, anytime before the session
[22:09] <humvee> questions taken
[22:09] <humvee> thanks
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[22:13] <scooby-atwork> monk: thanks for the props!
[22:13] <scooby-atwork> QV: funny how things work out
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[22:13] <QueenVee> she is very delightful
[22:13] <scooby-atwork> nice
[22:13] <QueenVee> hello DarkStar
[22:13] <DarKStaR> hey
[22:14] <scooby-atwork> hello
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[22:28] <scooby-atwork> interesting signoff....
[22:28] <scooby-atwork> and depressing...
[22:29] <scooby-atwork> http://www.musiccdsettlement.com/english/default.htm
[22:29] <scooby-atwork> free money from the Record companies
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[22:45] <humvee> someone in our group was wondering what we are going to do with the 50,000 or so odd tourists that are on our Island at any given time during the week of the shift
[22:47] <humvee> we might add an insert into the 101 things to do on Kauai booklets that are given out for free to our visitors
[22:48] <humvee> suggestion # 102 prepare for todays pole shift
[22:50] <Monkster> supply extra food for the tourist
[22:51] <humvee> it would be nice to make a card with basic information to give to people
[22:51] <humvee> the aftertime cafe
[22:51] <humvee> sort of a work for food situation
[22:51] <scooby-atwork> good name
[22:52] <humvee> we are the aftertime committee
[22:53] <humvee> we are making lapel pins with a red comet on them
[22:53] <Monkster> bow down to us
[22:53] <humvee> no leaders only helpers
[22:54] <Monkster> yea sure :)
[22:54] <humvee> why organize when u can have plesent anarchy
[22:55] <scooby-atwork> humvee: good call on the pins
[22:55] <scooby-atwork> : )
[22:55] <humvee> if ur at r house r invited to share meals so not so much of a change
[22:55] <Monkster> why not be a leader in the aftertime
[22:55] <Monkster> and have everyone follow you
[22:55] <Monkster> have everyelse make your meals
[22:55] <scooby-atwork> who would want that responsibility
[22:56] <scooby-atwork> yer joking rite?
[22:56] <humvee> people who have info will be leading by sharing that
[22:56] <Monkster> yea :)
[22:56] <humvee> why a joke what r u going to do oin a small group except
[22:57] <humvee> share
[22:57] <humvee> atleast what u have dug up so far
[22:58] <Monkster> get some guns and kill people who dont bow down to you as god
[22:58] <humvee> aduki beans & rice
[22:58] <Monkster> and pray to you
[22:58] <humvee> like the niburans?
[22:58] <scooby-atwork> all hail monk....  all hail monk....
[22:58] <scooby-atwork> : 0 )
[22:59] <humvee> they screwed up every serious book for 100,000 years when they were here
[22:59] <Monkster> i just seen a show
[22:59] <humvee>  what is monk short 4  (monkey
[22:59] <Monkster> like that hehe
[22:59] <Monkster> just messing around
[22:59] <Monkster> Monster
[22:59] <scooby-atwork> hehehe
[22:59] <humvee> I knoww that will help alot a/t
[22:59] <Monkster> monkster
[23:00] <humvee> I bought all these humvee hoods at the surplus auction now all over the yard
[23:01] <Monkster> mel waters was just on artbell!
[23:01] <humvee> wat did e say
[23:01] <Monkster> now ed dames is on next
[23:01] <Monkster> some flying rocks
[23:01] <humvee> wow thanks
[23:01] <Monkster> were coming out of a hole
[23:01] <Monkster> or something like that
[23:01] <Monkster> and some ice that never melts or something i dont know
[23:01] <Monkster> intresting stuff
[23:01] <scooby-atwork> who r they?
[23:01] <Monkster> ever hear of mels ole?
[23:02] <Monkster> hole
[23:02] <Monkster> well that hole was named after mel waters
[23:02] <scooby-atwork> no
[23:02] <scooby-atwork> what is it>
[23:02] <scooby-atwork> ?
[23:02] <humvee> mel's hole it is 5000' deep or more goes down to the reptilian caves under washington state
[23:03] <humvee> they used to drop refriferators down and never heard them hit bottom
[23:03] <Monkster> something like that
[23:03] <humvee> they let out 15,000' of line but kept oin going
[23:05] <humvee> however if u let out enough string the weight of the string gets to be enough that after a certain point it could just be piling up on the much shallower floor of the cave
[23:06] <Monkster> it goes somewhere
[23:06] <humvee> so I think mel outsmarted himself with sit ball of string with a fishing weight on it - was on last year art bell
[23:07] <humvee> after u let enough string 2 = the fishing weight there is no way to tell it is not piling up
[23:08] <Monkster> never tried it
[23:08] <humvee> at least that is what i thought when he was on last time
[23:08] <humvee> good trash dump site
[23:08] <humvee> hope no one down there to recieve the old junks
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[23:09] <Monkster> well there is something down there
[23:09] <humvee> doesent ed dames think 2003 is shift year
[23:09] <Monkster> you think we can put all our trash in the world down there
[23:10] <Monkster> That would be sick
[23:10] <humvee> maybee it goes down to the reactor in the center
[23:10] <Monkster> and burn it all up
[23:10] <humvee> just a recycle machine
[23:10] <Monkster> it would be wierd seeing trash being thrown up the hole
[23:10] <Monkster> like we dont want this shit down here
[23:10] <Monkster> haha
[23:11] <humvee> there was a weird story re an entity he pulled  out of the hole that caused trouble then jumped back in
[23:12] <Monkster> mel was just talking about that on artbell
[23:12] <humvee> he put a goat in a box down on a cable when came up had this thing in the box inside the dead goat
[23:12] <humvee> groase
[23:12] <Monkster> well he said they put a sheep down there
[23:13] <Monkster> and they cut it open and there was a tumor
[23:13] <Monkster> like a baby seal shaped
[23:13] <humvee> kprobably was last year
[23:13] <humvee> yea
[23:13] <Monkster> and it was talking with them through a sterio radio
[23:14] <humvee> story gets better every time he tells it
[23:14] <Monkster> heh
[23:15] <Monkster> One of the races under our influence and very closely connected to you as a species are the Zeta Taurians. The Zeta Taurians are more commonly known to you as the Greys. The Zeta Taurians are extraterrestrial masters, genetic engineers, and DNA code instructors.
[23:15] <Monkster> Their planet went through a very hostile past, trying to balance the polarity within their system. You can see the remnants of their troubled past affecting your planet in your present. The extremes of polarity pushed their planet to the brink of extinction. They have traveled back in time to Earth to see if they can use your planet for their own devices. This is where the negativity surrounding the Zeta comes fro
[23:16] <humvee> then the px thing is jus a trick?
[23:17] <Monkster> not done
[23:17] <humvee> or is the monkster the trick
[23:17] <Monkster> The Zeta do not have physical bodies like humans, but they do have humanoid form. Their hands have only three fingers; they have a nervous system which is clearly visible through the skin; they have no hair or protruding features, such as nose or ears; and they possess no reproductive system as you know it. They are very slender beings, and have large almond shaped eyes that evolved in conditions of limited sunlig
[23:17] <Monkster> The emotional body of the Zeta is unlike the human. Their emotional body is consciously generated; they are not necessarily stimulated from outside influence. The Zeta do not have to join into interaction with another in order to stimulate their emotions, or transfer emotions from one to another. They have total unconditional love without emotional binds to another.
[23:17] <Monkster> When they come to Earth in human form, the emotional body can lock them into dramatic expression of negative emotion. The most important challenge to an incarnate Zeta is to learn to flow with the emotional body and express it in human terms. They play with the constant rearranging of pictures of reality and their corresponding emotions.
[23:17] <Monkster> The Zeta, not realising the full potential of negative devolutionary emotions, almost destroyed their planet by creating negative pictures. They had to experience devolution through uninhibited play with reality and its emotions.
[23:17] <Monkster> The Zeta are here in human form to aid this planet whilst it transforms to light and to help their own evolution. They do this by learning the results of devolutionary emotions. The Zeta are learning how to simulate the experience of the emotional body, and how to react emotionally when relating to another. This is the reason that the Zeta find the emotional body very painful and almost impossible to restrain. Bec
[23:17] <Monkster> are prone to emotional outbursts.
[23:19] <Monkster> If you are operating from your Zeta aspect, you will find you have the ability to play with your emotions and can turn them on or off at will. You will be knowingly aware that emotions are only pictures of reality and, therefore, changeable. The Zeta who incarnate in human form tend to dive into the emotions head first due to this ability. Therefore, they often find they feel alone and isolated from the rest of hu
[23:19] <Monkster> The Zeta are a highly complex civilisation having an intricate blend of many planetary systems. They are the direct manifestation of genetic selection with
[23:20] <humvee> how do u type that fast
[23:21] <Monkster> DNA code instruction. This allows them to manipulate DNA to create a specialised being. The genetic selection allows them to choose from a vast storehouse of energetic patterning, so as to develop a being with the most desirable qualities and abilities. In the past, they made mistakes with this knowledge as they used it without any thought for the wholeness of all.
[23:21] <Monkster> With all races of evolution, mistakes are made and alignment with the light has to be developed in order for the race to survive. Their energies are still affecting other patterns in the universe as energy cannot be destroyed, only transformed!
[23:22] <Monkster> Humans have been affected by these energies in a number of different ways. They have attached themselves to the negativity that was held within the Zeta's energetic patterning. As like attracts like, negativity breeds negativity. Humans, therefore, created whole pictures of reality surrounding the past mistakes of the Zeta. The Zeta have long since mended their ways and are totally aligned with the light.
[23:22] <Monkster> The fear of such beings is held within dark crystals in the cells of your physical body. You must release these dark crystals and allow new pictures of reality to enter your bodies and consciousness. To do this you simply ask your Spirit to aid you.
[23:23] <Monkster> The Zeta have evolved for themselves extremely advanced mental bodies and do not have emotional bodies that humans would recognise. They have very powerful minds and creative mental abilities. They use this to create whole new pictures of reality for the evolution of their race. They can constantly and instantly change their pictures of reality by altering the energetic patterning within their being. This affects
[23:23] <Monkster>  surrounding energetic fields as they are aware of there being no separation between the two. They are masters at creating illusional pictures of reality which they now use to inspire humans to release limitation.
[23:23] <Monkster> The closest thing to the Zeta on your planet is the energy of the insect nations. They are representatives of the Zeta and are used to communicate with Gaia, the spirit of Earth. Communication with other extraterrestrial races will become possible through interaction with insects. This communication will be when the insects have created energetic portals and bridges from Gaia to the extraterrestrial races in space
[23:23] <Monkster> The insects set up encoded frequencies that transmit information across space and time to the races they represent. To communicate with these beings, you will merge your consciousness with that of the ants, and, thus, communicate with the Zeta. You can also use this form of communication to talk to Gaia.
[23:23] <Monkster> The insects are specialised beings that operate on such a high frequency it would be undetectable to your technology. Angels have representatives in the bird kingdom. There are many different levels of consciousness represented on Earth by the animals that share your world
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[23:25] <Monkster> hi poleshift
[23:25] <PoleShift> greetings
[23:30] <Monkster> its quiet tonight
[23:31] <scooby-atwork> sorry.... on a 50 minute call
[23:31] <scooby-atwork> guy cant browse the net but is pingable
[23:31] <scooby-atwork> grrrrrrrrr
[23:32] <Monkster> lol
[23:35] <Monkster> tell him to get netscape
[23:35] <humvee> where does all the above information come from
[23:36] <humvee> when i print it gets cut off on the right side
[23:36] <Monkster> its a ebook
[23:36] <Monkster> http://spiritweb.org/Spirit/one-star-01.html
[23:36] <scooby-atwork> monk: unfortunately Netscape is not supported
[23:36] <scooby-atwork> : (
[23:38] <scooby-atwork> found it: ICSMGR
[23:38] <scooby-atwork> Monitors DNS and DHCP requests for ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). Needed if you’re sharing the internet on various computers
[23:38] <scooby-atwork> i think that's the problem
[23:38] <Monkster> wtf your company doesn't support netscape
[23:38] <scooby-atwork> only IE
[23:38] <Monkster> you suck
[23:38] <scooby-atwork> lol
[23:38] <scooby-atwork> yes we do
[23:39] <scooby-atwork> you can use it, but I can't help you with it
[23:39] <Monkster> rofl
[23:39] <scooby-atwork> hahahaha
[23:39] <scooby-atwork> pushing one hour here....
[23:39] <scooby-atwork> on one call
[23:41] <Monkster> lool
[23:41] <Monkster> dont you only got 20 minutes left to work ?
[23:41] <scooby-atwork> yeah...
[23:42] <scooby-atwork> 21
[23:42] <Monkster> better tell him he better get his problem fixed because you leaving
[23:42] <scooby-atwork> yeah....
[23:42] <Monkster> and im leaving also
[23:42] <Monkster> bye
[23:43] <scooby-atwork> we're almost at the dreaded "OS issue"
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[23:43] <scooby-atwork> nite monk!@
[23:43] <scooby-atwork> argh
[23:43] <Monkster> goodnight hope you get this guy cruising the net
[23:43] <scooby-atwork> me too
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