Session Start: Sun Dec 22 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] <islander> work  just gets in the way of life I guess?
[00:00] <Kain> yea.. if I could have back my 40 hrs a week to study and prepare I'd be far better off..
[00:01] <scooby-atwork> yea.... me 2
[00:01] <islander> I have 60 hours to study and its not enough
[00:01] <islander> so I changed the approach
[00:03] <islander> I imagine myself as a caveman then start accessorizing
[00:03] <Kain> there ya go...
[00:03] <islander> still there kain?
[00:03] <Kain> yup :)
[00:04] <islander> so what does the modern caveman need?
[00:04] <Kain> hard to imagine life without my computer and guitar...
[00:05] <islander> guitar will work but the computers no good for cooking
[00:05] <Kain> nope.. :)
[00:05] <islander> case might be good for an ant farm
[00:05] <Kain> well I gatta figure I can only keep what I can carry on my back...
[00:06] <Kain> don't see how I'll be able to keep the guitar..
[00:07] <islander> use it as the platform of a travers to drag behind you
[00:08] <islander> we need to keep some social skills, might have to play for food, wandering minstrell etc
[00:08] <Kain> good points..
[00:09] <Kain> hopefully I'll find a way
[00:09] <islander> people will want entertainment, stand up comedy about politicians will be dead
[00:09] <islander> whers scooby gone?
[00:10] <scooby-atwork> aaaarrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh
[00:10] <scooby-atwork> stuck on a damn calll
[00:11] <scooby-atwork> the phone rings at 4 minutes before quitting time
[00:11] <scooby-atwork> and I am obligated to fix the problem
[00:11] <scooby-atwork> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[00:11] <islander> life without phones and computers, might be nice?
[00:12] <Kain> think it will be.. :)
[00:12] <islander> Kain: have you pick out an area that is resource rich to go to?
[00:12] <Kain> not yet.. still trying to figure out a good one..
[00:13] <Kain> hopeing to be able to hook up with like minded folks..
[00:13] <islander> i started by studying geo and mineral maps fron govt
[00:13] <islander> also plan to stay close to coast for resources
[00:13] <Kain> a good start..
[00:14] <Kain> how are you sure you won't experience flood?
[00:14] <islander> Im mot, go to top of mountain, with boat just in case
[00:15] <Kain> protection from stones? high winds? Sure you've got it all figured out..
[00:15] <scooby-atwork> finally!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:15] <islander> I think every plan needs an escape plan in case it doesn't work
[00:15] <scooby-atwork> nite gize
[00:16] <islander> gnite scooby
[00:16] <Kain> always have a plan B
[00:16] <Kain> laterz scooby.. :)
[00:16] <Kain> sure you'll see me again in here..
[00:17] <islander> the challenge is to keep the head low from the sky and the feet high from water and melting rock, nothin hard about it
[00:17] <islander> just need to be some sort of acrobat
[00:17] <scooby-atwork> nite!
[00:17] <Kain> that simple.. :)
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[00:18] <islander> if only
[00:18] <Kain> well Texas will be flooded..  all I can do at this point is prepare for a hell of a camping trip...
[00:19] <islander> take lots of hot dogs and mustard
[00:19] <Kain> and when the red cross shows up be ready to take off..
[00:19] <Kain> marshmellows..
[00:19] <islander> you're not gonna donate blood
[00:19] <Kain> refereing to Px
[00:21] <islander> instead of camping I prefer to think of it as going to the cabin
[00:21] <islander> no heat, no lights, no indoor plumbing
[00:21] <Kain> if I had a cabin to go to.. :)
[00:21] <islander> take it with you
[00:22] <Kain> ??
[00:22] <islander> sheets of metal roofing and some 2x4's = one cabin that doesn't cost much
[00:22] <islander> build when required
[00:23] <islander> one thought I had was using mountain bkes with trailers
[00:24] <Kain> well that might be possible.. if I'm able to act quikly...
[00:24] <islander> supplies at the local home depot and bike shop
[00:25] <Kain> yea... well I would have to travel to whatever state I find suitable.. then get these thigns and descretly find a place to set up camp..
[00:26] <islander> you could get them now, just looks like you're bilding a garden shed
[00:27] <Kain> well I'll be thinking on that
[00:28] <islander> we all have to, my concerns are for things like, what will I use for clothing fabric and leather replacement
[00:28] <Kain> my friend and I are working on preparations.. and learning a few useful skills..
[00:29] <islander> or how to I make and fire pottery, build a kiln or metal furnace
[00:29] <Kain> good stuff to know..
[00:29] <islander> I think the 18th century analogy is good if yiou consider all the skills known at the time
[00:30] <islander> the challeng is to learn them all in time
[00:31] <islander> an retain as much of the present as posible
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[00:31] <islander> hello mugada
[00:31] <Kain> exactly islander..
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[00:32] <Mugada> G'day all
[00:34] <islander> sources of food and water are still the biggest concern, a person can handle being naked but not hungry
[00:35] <Kain> I know... maybe I'll get be one of the lucky ones and hook up with some hybrids..:)
[00:35] <islander> and trying to guess which crops will grow based on latitude, longitude and weather
[00:36] <Kain> don't forget 20+ years of darkness..
[00:36] <islander> I working on that one, do you know how to make mirrors?
[00:37] <islander> reflect as much light as possible to focus
[00:37] <Kain> Hmmm... good thinkin
[00:38] <islander> on growing area, I don't think hydrponics will last the long term, too many supplies
[00:38] <Kain> yea.. didn't think that would go well..
[00:39] <islander> I'm studying up on composting using various plants for fertilizing and local minerals to maintain balance
[00:39] <islander> Mugada: are you in the planning phase?
[00:40] <Kain> you're way ahead of me islander
[00:41] <islander> Kain: lots of goof inspiration in Troubled times, but I'm doing a lot of web searches for older crafts
[00:41] <islander> goof=good
[00:41] <islander> no pun intended
[00:42] <Kain> haha.. time to get crafty
[00:42] <islander> do you have a good search engine?
[00:42] <Kain> usually use google.com
[00:43] <islander> try downloading and using Copernic at Copernic.com, it allows to conduct 10 searches at once and prioritizes the results
[00:43] <Kain> interesting.. ok..
[00:44] <islander> I liked it so much I bought the advanced version
[00:44] <Kain> kewl...
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[00:45] <islander> looks like everyone else is guiet tonight
[00:46] <islander> g=q
[00:46] <Kain> downloading it now
[00:47] <islander> good luck with your searches and studies kain, its getting to that time for me to go
[00:47] <Kain> wow.. that flew.. avg 250 k/ps! I love that..
[00:47] <islander> tis the only time to surf, no kids
[00:47] <Kain> alright islander.. thanks for the chat and advice...
[00:48] <islander> will see in the chat again
[00:48] <Kain> I should be heading out too..
[00:48] <islander> bye all
[00:48] <Kain> certainly..
[00:48] <Kain> goodnigt all..
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[01:18] <fetus> anyone here?
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[04:40] <obany> hi
[04:40] <TheThinker1> hello
[04:42] <TheThinker1> what are the news?
[04:44] <TheThinker1> ...
[04:45] <TheThinker1> is there anyone?
[04:45] <obany> I am :)
[04:45] <TheThinker1> ;))
[04:46] <TheThinker1> well, what's are the news about planet x?
[04:46] <obany> you saw this yet http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm ?
[04:46] <TheThinker1> yes
[04:46] <obany> the update also ?
[04:47] <TheThinker1> yes
[04:48] <TheThinker1> but I can't find a clear pic of planet x
[04:48] <TheThinker1> could you help me?
[04:48] <obany> what do you consider a clear picture?
[04:49] <TheThinker1> a big pic
[04:49] <TheThinker1> as mars
[04:49] <TheThinker1> moon
[04:49] <obany> so this is not enough http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/shavas20.htm ?
[04:50] <TheThinker1> no
[04:50] <TheThinker1> it is so confuse
[04:50] <TheThinker1> Planet x is very big, isn't it?
[04:51] <obany> well if you have read zetatalk 7 weeks before the shift it will be vissible for all to see ...
[04:51] <obany> TheThinker1: 4 times the size of the earth for what i know
[04:52] <TheThinker1> yeah, so we should have pics clear as the pics of mars or of the moon
[04:52] <TheThinker1> but we haven't it, why?
[04:52] <TheThinker1> we haven't a pic clear
[04:52] <obany> well the lanet is coming closer day by day ... and to make a picture you need clear weather also ... so maybe you will have to wait a little longer
[04:53] <obany> or well make pix yourself ... sure there are observatories in Italy
[04:53] <obany> and people with telescopes
[04:53] <TheThinker1> we know planet x for twenty years
[04:54] <TheThinker1> since 1997 someone has made pics
[04:54] <TheThinker1> but they are only a white pixel in a dark background
[04:54] <obany> TheThinker1: i am sure that sooner or later the pic that you want, where you will clearl ysee it will be on the web
[04:55] <TheThinker1> i hope so
[04:55] <TheThinker1> but many people I know
[04:55] <TheThinker1> have used telescopes
[04:55] <obany> Is it that only a picture wil convince you that the pole shift will occur?
[04:56] <TheThinker1> have made pics of stars near planet x
[04:56] <TheThinker1> and they didn't see planet x
[04:56] <TheThinker1> It may happen
[04:57] <TheThinker1> but I think it's to early
[04:57] <obany> There is a bunch of coordinates for the next few months ... let them check again if that's what you want : http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword03m.htm
[04:58] <obany> RA 4.35941 Dec 12.11749 Feb 09, 2003
[04:58] <obany> RA 4.35948 Dec 12.11813 Feb 02, 2003
[04:58] <obany> RA 4.36007 Dec 12.11875 Jan 21, 2003
[04:58] <obany> RA 4.36239 Dec 12.11946 Jan 13, 2003
[04:58] <obany> RA 4.36743 Dec 12.12001 Dec 29, 2002
[04:58] <obany> ZetaTalk (dated Dec 14, 2002)
[04:58] <TheThinker1> I'll give them to my friends
[05:00] <TheThinker1> if planet x should arrive, we have to see 3 days of dark, right?
[05:01] <obany> TheThinker1: it depends on where you are ...
[05:01] <TheThinker1> italy
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[05:02] <TheThinker1> however I believe in ancient people
[05:02] <TheThinker1> and in Nibiru
[05:02] <obany> for what i know it will be day for several days in your area
[05:03] <TheThinker1> well, where could I go?
[05:04] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p143.htm
[05:04] <TheThinker1> italy is supposed to be destroyed
[05:04] <obany> have you seen the safe locations page as yet?
[05:04] <TheThinker1> i don't remember the link
[05:05] <TheThinker1> i remember there was a map
[05:05] <TheThinker1> update
[05:05] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[05:05] <TheThinker1> thanks
[05:06] <TheThinker1> in the link there are the places that will be destroyed
[05:06] <TheThinker1> as italy
[05:07] <TheThinker1> where are the place that won't be destroyed?
[05:07] <obany> also on that page
[05:07] <obany> like about Austria
[05:07] <obany> Austria
[05:07] <obany> Austria is a beautiful country today, high in the mountains and with easy access to the Mediterranean not far to the south. However, these very attractions will make Austria a cross-roads after the shift, when those to the north where the melting poles have forced water steadily inland will move south as they try to escape, and those to the south will try to escape the line of volcanoes in or bordering the Mediterranean by movin
[05:07] <obany> rth. They will meet in Austria.
[05:07] <obany> ZetaTalk
[05:09] <TheThinker1> ok
[05:09] <TheThinker1> well I'll go to Austria
[05:10] <TheThinker1> However I hope in 2012, planet x arrive in 2012
[05:10] <obany> Europe will have the long day http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p20.htm
[05:10] <obany> why 2012?
[05:11] <TheThinker1> because science facts say 2012
[05:11] <TheThinker1> Maya said 2012
[05:11] <TheThinker1> 22 december 2012
[05:12] <TheThinker1> all know 2012
[05:12] <TheThinker1> X files said 2012 ;))
[05:12] <TheThinker1> Stargate said 2012
[05:12] <obany> wich is wrong acc zetatalk, btw did you read that even a pychic .. Sylvia brown 'says'  2003
[05:13] <TheThinker1> well maybe she did a mistake
[05:13] <obany> well i don't thik it
[05:13] <obany> 's 2012
[05:13] <TheThinker1> why are you sure?
[05:14] <obany> because i am so sure, because well all the bones in my body are telling me that it's 2003
[05:14] <TheThinker1> Maya were great astronomic people
[05:14] <TheThinker1> they knew all about stars
[05:14] <TheThinker1> they knew Nibiru
[05:15] <TheThinker1> so Egyptian
[05:15] <obany> TheThinker1: http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p57.htm
[05:16] <TheThinker1> what?
[05:16] <TheThinker1> I don't think so there are visitors on planet x
[05:17] <TheThinker1> they couldn't survive
[05:17] <TheThinker1> if their planet move around the space
[05:17] <TheThinker1> ;))
[05:18] <TheThinker1> and Maya calendar is right, because.....
[05:19] <TheThinker1> all they said happened in the right time, they told us
[05:20] <TheThinker1> however I have to investigate this case
[05:20] <obany> TheThinker1: i disagree with you on that point, so you take the mayan calender for granted as long as you don't see a clear picture
[05:20] <obany> ?
[05:20] <TheThinker1> i work in archeology sector
[05:21] <TheThinker1> and I know many scientist
[05:21] <TheThinker1> I have collaborate with many people about maya theories
[05:22] <TheThinker1> they were simply great
[05:23] <TheThinker1> Sylvia said 2003, but science say 2012
[05:23] <obany> well maybe they where great, but i am not into the 2012 theory
[05:23] <TheThinker1> maybe science is wrong
[05:23] <TheThinker1> but Nibiru exist
[05:24] <TheThinker1> and it isn't the planet on the pic of zetatalk
[05:26] <TheThinker1> now I have to go.....
[05:26] <TheThinker1> bye
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[08:05] <QueenVee> hello Mel
[08:06] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room?
[08:06] <Mel> hello
[08:06] <Mel> I have an interest in the poleshift theory and have some questions about it
[08:06] <QueenVee> okay
[08:08] <Mel> I have read some of the sites on planetx and if it is due to arrive in april 2003, how fast is this planet travelling to cover those great distances
[08:08] <QueenVee> i can't remember the exact speed -- fast -- you should be able to find it on the zetatalk site
[08:09] <QueenVee> it is picking up speed as it goes
[08:09] <Mel> Ok thanks
[08:09] <QueenVee> what part of the world do you live in?
[08:09] <Mel> Vancouver BC
[08:10] <QueenVee> hail fellow canuck -- ontario here
[08:10] <Mel> and yourself
[08:10] <Mel> cool
[08:10] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[08:10] <QueenVee> we have a lot of people from BC who come to this chat rom
[08:12] <Mel> the poleshift I have been reading about and touching base with for about 15 years, zetatalk only the last few weeks and of course it has perked my interest again
[08:12] <QueenVee> are you thinking in terms of preparation yet?
[08:12] <Mel> BC offers a lot of protection in someplaces
[08:12] <QueenVee> yes, some places
[08:13] <Mel> I think we will head to the interior  Okanagon
[08:13] <QueenVee> but it will be a bumpy ride
[08:13] <QueenVee> good spot
[08:13] <Mel> I have family there and know the area very well
[08:13] <QueenVee> here is the website of this group, where you will find useful information: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[08:13] <QueenVee> check out the POLESHIFT LINKS section
[08:14] <Mel> will do, I will chat later   see you online
[08:14] <QueenVee> bye
[08:14] <Mel> bye
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[08:33] <fetus> hi
[08:33] <fetus> I seem to remmember train derailments mentioned in zetatalk somewhere....can anyone confirm this?
[08:34] <QueenVee> hi fetus
[08:34] <QueenVee> yep
[08:35] <QueenVee> you want an actual link?
[08:35] <fetus> ya please
[08:35] <QueenVee> okay, hold on
[08:35] <fetus> thx
[08:35] <QueenVee> i'm just sending off a sarcastic note to Michael Cunningham
[08:35] <fetus> whos that?...some debunker?
[08:36] <QueenVee> major debunker
[08:36] <fetus> ah
[08:36] <QueenVee> has just announced on the tt-forum that he will not be producing his own pics to counter Steve Havas' pics until AFTER June 2003....
[08:36] <QueenVee> his reason?
[08:37] <QueenVee> because he knows that nancy will just "misuse them"....
[08:37] <fetus> I've put together a large email that i've sent to people i feel need to know....
[08:37] <QueenVee> cool
[08:38] <fetus> yes...I've gotten a very good response thus far..
[08:38] <fetus> just have to be carful who i send it to
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[08:42] <QueenVee> hello qu -- what brings you to this room?
[08:42] <QueenVee> fetus: here is one reference: http://www.zetatalk.com/Xtime/x13.htm
[08:42] <QueenVee> there's more, hold on
[08:42] <qu> Ia m looking for Jeremy
[08:43] <QueenVee> he doesn't hang out here, try #troubled_times
[08:43] <qu> ok..let sit
[08:43] <QueenVee> let sit?
[08:44] <qu> don't mind...or so whatever
[08:44] <qu> Saw his video?
[08:44] <QueenVee> jeremy's video?
[08:44] <qu> Cool..the curage
[08:44] <qu> lol!
[08:45] <QueenVee> fetus: here's another: http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g160.htm
[08:46] <QueenVee> qu: newcomers can't idle in this channel -- did you come here to talk about preparation for the poleshift?
[08:47] <qu> i will leave ...
[08:47] <QueenVee> ok
[08:47] <qu> in a moment..
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[08:49] <QueenVee> fetus: you still there?
[08:50] <QueenVee> Nancy says the following in here November 23rd ZetaTalk session: (NancyL) ZT: We have predicted imploding cities will occur, in line with derailing trains where tracks recently tested are found skewed.
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[08:54] <QueenVee> hey froggy, how are ya
[08:54] <froggy> hi
[08:54] <froggy> i'm fine
[08:55] <QueenVee> good
[08:55] <froggy> how are you?
[08:55] <QueenVee> i'm good, taking care of some emails and stuff....
[08:55] <froggy> :)
[08:55] <QueenVee> gotta take my mother to Walmart soon
[08:56] <QueenVee> the highlight of my day....
[08:57] <froggy> sounds like fun
[08:57] <QueenVee> nothing i enjoy more than chasing my mother around Walmart
[08:57] <froggy> lol
[08:58] <QueenVee> with this kind of dialogue going on: "oh, what a good deal on XYZ, i should get some".... "yeah, but ma, do you need any XYZ?".... "no, but they're so cheap"....
[08:59] <froggy> i mother in law will drive 20 miles to save $1
[08:59] <froggy> how old is your mother?
[08:59] <QueenVee> it's a form of insanity
[08:59] <QueenVee> 64
[09:00] <froggy> it clicks at a certain age
[09:00] <froggy> 64 is young
[09:01] <QueenVee> she frets about the size of her phone bill, and at one point was talking about getting her $5 a month "call answer" taken off to save money.... and she spends 20 times that on useless stuff...
[09:01] <QueenVee> yeah, and my mom only looks about 55, still has guys hitting on her....
[09:01] <froggy> lol
[09:02] <QueenVee> listening to my mom talk about the latest guy to hit her up is just not what i expected to be listening to at this point in my life....
[09:02] <froggy> more power to her
[09:03] <QueenVee> keeps her occupied
[09:03] <froggy> is the irc chat out yet?
[09:04] <QueenVee> you mean the logs of yesterday's zetatalk sessions?
[09:04] <froggy> yes
[09:05] <QueenVee> they're up on our website, on this page: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8
[09:05] <QueenVee> for future reference, i've been getting them up on the site within the same day....
[09:06] <froggy> great
[09:06] <QueenVee> :-)
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[09:07] <QueenVee> hey obany
[09:07] <fetus> here...wow
[09:08] <QueenVee> wow what?
[09:08] <fetus> trains...just saw it
[09:09] <obany> what?
[09:09] <QueenVee> i gave ya a few links
[09:09] <fetus> train delrailments
[09:09] <QueenVee> fetus was looking for ZT on train derailments
[09:09] <obany> mmm :/
[09:09] <fetus> due to all the small quakes right?
[09:09] <QueenVee> shifting earth
[09:09] <fetus> ya
[09:10] <fetus> 110 pound hail stone in china...
[09:10] <QueenVee> my mother has found the train derailments to be one of the most convincing things -- told her a long time ago to expect them, and now they're happening all the time...
[09:11] <fetus> yes.....I was babbling about them to about 6 months ago.....got a few more people to sit up and take notice.
[09:12] <obany> brb
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[09:16] <QueenVee> have you guys heard of this group called NESARA?
[09:17] <fetus> not until today
[09:17] <QueenVee> they are also predicting the approach of PX, but with some bizarre twists:
[09:17] <fetus> got that in my email...i am curious about it
[09:17] <QueenVee> Yes, there shall be earth changes as the planet cleanses herself in preparation for her ascension, and Nibiru s gravitational influence may contribute significantly to those changes. We have been promised that we shall be evacuated long before those major changes become reality.
[09:17] <QueenVee> Many of us have been having vivid dreams about being in these underground cities of light, and they are quite magnificent! They certainly are not caves  they are grand and glorious and well-appointed dwellings, fit for kings and queens.
[09:17] <QueenVee> END OF QUOTE
[09:18] <QueenVee> lord....
[09:18] <QueenVee> there are a bunch of wacky sites out there trying to convince people they can escape the poleshift if they just raise their spiritual vibration level.....
[09:18] <obany> i know i know
[09:19] <fetus> more attempts to make it cultish ?
[09:19] <obany> but everyone will be affected..
[09:19] <QueenVee> it really upsets me, because there may be people who fall for that, and consequently don't bother to prepare -- because they are going to be "saved"....
[09:19] <QueenVee> or "spared"....
[09:23] <obany> someone posted on tt-watch http://www.arnierosner.com/ but well i think this is what Steve is using
[09:24] <QueenVee> did you read that Michael Cunningham says he won't produce any images until after June 2003, because he knows nancy would "misuse them"...
[09:24] <QueenVee> what a collosal jerk
[09:25] <obany> of course he is a jerk
[09:25] <obany> an obvious jerk
[09:26] <QueenVee> how could nancy "misuse" images that show nothing?
[09:27] <obany> MC is a jackass, likes namecalling even mentioned Jeremy in a posting of his .. and gave comments on Jeremy's emails about the weather ...
[09:27] <obany> MC is such a dickhead
[09:27] <QueenVee> i couldn't resist replying to his post:
[09:27] <QueenVee> Thanks for confirming what we already knew -- that all we can expect
[09:27] <QueenVee> from you is further carping from the sidelines and nothing whatsoever
[09:27] <QueenVee> of substance....
[09:32] <obany> brb
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[09:35] <QueenVee> obany: someone on the MIRC site gave me a script, so that now i get a beep when someone enters or leaves the channel...
[09:35] <obany> well maybe maybe more people come forward .. with pictures ... who knows
[09:35] <obany> ah queen :)
[09:35] <obany> wich script?
[09:36] <QueenVee> you want it?
[09:37] <obany> back in a sec
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[09:39] <obany> wich script?
[09:39] <QueenVee> obany: this is one of the scripts he told me to add to "Remote": on !*:JOIN:#: beep | flash -r5 $chan $nick joined $chan
[09:39] <obany> aha
[09:39] <QueenVee> did you want the rest, or were you just curious?
[09:40] <obany> just curious
[09:40] <QueenVee> ah
[09:40] <QueenVee> it's great. now i don't miss people when they come in.
[09:41] <obany> :)
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[09:51] <QueenVee> hello quasar
[09:51] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room?
[09:52] <quasar> hello...not again qv pls
[09:52] <QueenVee> not again what?
[09:52] <quasar> I wanna setup a chat channel on a other server
[09:52] <quasar> polsprung .tk   maybe there
[09:53] <QueenVee> so?
[09:53] <QueenVee> go to #help
[09:53] <quasar> I just thought it long ago also..
[09:53] <quasar> you also i suspect..
[09:53] <quasar> No on a other server
[09:54] <QueenVee> why are you telling me?
[09:54] <quasar> But actually it is already there ...so i can came up ..
[09:54] <quasar> if will do really..
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[10:05] <obany> QueenVee: that is NOL
[10:05] <obany> that was NOL
[10:05] <QueenVee> haha
[10:05] <QueenVee> what an idiot
[10:09] <QueenVee> looks like it's gonna be quiet over Xmas
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[10:11] <obany> maybe so ... busy days
[10:11] <QueenVee> i'm going to see the second installment of The Lord of the Rings tonight -- The Two Towers
[10:11] <obany> ah
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[10:13] <QueenVee> hello WestCoast
[10:13] <West_coast> helo
[10:13] <West_coast> hello
[10:13] <QueenVee> you're in Washington, right?
[10:13] <QueenVee> Washington state?
[10:13] <West_coast> yes
[10:14] <QueenVee> right
[10:14] <West_coast> wrong place to be
[10:14] <QueenVee> yup
[10:14] <West_coast> east side of the mountains maybe ok
[10:14] <QueenVee> yes, should be
[10:15] <West_coast> where are you?
[10:16] <QueenVee> ontario canada
[10:16] <West_coast> safe?
[10:16] <QueenVee> i've lived in Toronto for the past 20 years, but recently moved back to my hometown of London Ontario to look after my mother....
[10:16] <QueenVee> my safe area for the shift will be at my cousin's farm about 40 miles from London....
[10:16] <QueenVee> yes, relatively safe
[10:17] <West_coast> lucky to have a place to go to
[10:17] <QueenVee> 1500 fit
[10:17] <QueenVee> feet
[10:17] <QueenVee> the only concern is that we are between two of the Great Lakes -- Lake Huron on the North, Lake Erie to the south....
[10:17] <West_coast> hmmmm
[10:18] <QueenVee> we are JUST far enough inland from the both to meet ZT guidelines....
[10:18] <West_coast> hope for the best
[10:18] <QueenVee> it's all you can do
[10:18] <West_coast> I need to find some place for a shelter
[10:18] <QueenVee> east of the mountains sounds good
[10:19] <West_coast> hard to go squat in the wilderness, though
[10:19] <QueenVee> yes....
[10:19] <West_coast> help from above, maybe
[10:19] <QueenVee> you have any relatives or friends who live further east?
[10:20] <West_coast> maybe Montana, long shot
[10:21] <QueenVee> in the next day or two i'll be setting up the "NETWORK WITH OTHERS" section of our website, designed to help people connect up with others in their area, or planned relocation area....
[10:22] <QueenVee> it you would like to be on our mailing list for further info about that, just give me your email address on a private channel
[10:22] <West_coast> I'll do that later, nice to know
[10:23] <West_coast> I have supplies for four for a year, but I don't know who they are yet
[10:23] <QueenVee> mmmm
[10:28] <QueenVee> how are you planning to find others for your community?
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[10:28] <QueenVee> hello op
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[10:29] <West_coast> not sure, family is very religious, God will protect them, they say
[10:30] <QueenVee> you have supplies that you could share in return for sharing land somewhere safe, yes?
[10:30] <West_coast> why not
[10:30] <QueenVee> with the right people, of course
[10:30] <QueenVee> that's the hard part
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[10:30] <West_coast> sto
[10:30] <QueenVee> hello JLOfan
[10:30] <JLOfan> hi
[10:31] <JLOfan> Noticed the 21st log isnt up on the site
[10:31] <JLOfan> Does anyone know why
[10:31] <QueenVee> WestCoast: well, this is why i think it's important for people to start making contacts sooner rather than later -- while they still have time to get to know people, find out what they're all about before throwing in their lot with them....
[10:32] <West_coast> the other people I was supposed to contact are in the same boat as my family
[10:32] <QueenVee> it's on the SHIFT2003 website; just go to this page and click on the ZetaTAlk Logs link: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[10:32] <QueenVee> the logs, that is
[10:33] <JLOfan> hmmm
[10:33] <QueenVee> problem?
[10:33] <JLOfan> welp went to IRC sessions, and from there i go to logs, but didnt see the link
[10:34] <QueenVee> JLO: the logs are on the SHIFT2003 website; just go to this page and click on the ZetaTAlk Logs link: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[10:34] <JLOfan> did this just start?
[10:34] <QueenVee> recently, yes
[10:34] <JLOfan> oooo i se
[10:40] <West_coast> hello
[10:40] <QueenVee> hello?
[10:40] <West_coast> lagging here, I think
[10:41] <West_coast> just quiet, I guess
[10:41] <QueenVee> well, Xmas week and all...
[10:41] <West_coast> I forgot how to open a private channel
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[10:42] <QueenVee> hey monk
[10:42] <Monk> hi
[10:42] <QueenVee> WestCoast: just type the following, then hit enter:  /query QueenVee
[10:42] <QueenVee> or whoever's nickname....
[10:43] <QueenVee> you can also double-click on the person's name in the nickname list on your right
[10:43] <Monk> im not gonna be on long
[10:43] <Monk> just checking in
[10:43] <QueenVee> very quiet here
[10:43] <Monk> going out
[10:43] <Monk> to shop
[10:44] <QueenVee> i'm going out later this evening, to see the new Lord of the Rings film
[10:44] <Monk> Im gonna see that to I think
[10:44] <Monk> u watched part one?
[10:44] <QueenVee> oh yes
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[10:45] <QueenVee> supposed to be as good as the first one
[10:46] <Monk> I hope so
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[10:47] <QueenVee> Time left until the poleshift:  4 months + 23 days
[10:47] <QueenVee> Time left until PX appears in the sky: 3 months + 9 days
[10:47] <froggy> hi
[10:47] <QueenVee> hi
[10:47] <QueenVee> well, i have to take my mother to Walmart now.....
[10:47] <Monk> hi froggy
[10:47] <QueenVee> be back later
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[10:47] <froggy> anybody here?
[10:48] <West_coast> me
[10:48] <Monk> yes im here
[10:48] <froggy> hi
[10:48] <froggy> hi
[10:48] <Monk> hey froggy u listen to artbells interview with silvia brown ?
[10:48] <froggy> i was thinking
[10:48] <froggy> i read about that
[10:48] <Monk> oh really
[10:48] <froggy> do you think a spirit guide has a gender?
[10:48] <Monk> well I think they can be any gender they want to be
[10:49] <Monk> they can manifest into anything i believe
[10:49] <froggy> that
[10:49] <froggy> whoops
[10:49] <froggy> that's what i thought
[10:49] <Monk> slivia got a call in and the guy said he always seen 11:11 on the clock
[10:49] <froggy> oh man
[10:50] <Monk> and she said well i always see 7:11 on the clock
[10:50] <Monk> heh :)
[10:50] <froggy> i have to go out but i want to listen to that latter
[10:50] <froggy> will you be here latter?
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[10:50] <Monk> no
[10:51] <Monk> im leaving for the day
[10:51] <froggy> did she say what 11:11 was?
[10:51] <Monk> going with my mom
[10:51] <Monk> well said numbers are important and she said its probaly your spirit guide awakening you by looking at those numbers
[10:51] <Monk> something like that
[10:52] <froggy> i have a very interesting story to tell you, but i don't have time now
[10:52] <froggy> i will tell you latter
[10:52] <Monk> im loging right now
[10:52] <Monk> cya later
[10:52] <froggy> bye
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[11:42] <Ummite> hello all
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[12:54] <Mugada> G'day all
[12:54] <walt> hi
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[12:59] <ukuz_zzz> :)
[13:00] <ukuz_zzz> :]
[13:00] <ukuz_zzz> :|
[13:01] <ukuz_zzz> :[
[13:01] <ukuz_zzz> :(
[13:02] <ukuz_zzz> :-'
[13:03] <ukuz_zzz> :-T
[13:04] <ukuz_zzz> ?
[13:07] <ukuz_zzz> zzz...
[13:13] <QueenVee> hello ukuz
[13:15] <obany> hi Queenvee
[13:15] <QueenVee> hi
[13:15] <QueenVee> i see i forgot to mark myself as away...
[13:16] <QueenVee> oh, no i didn't; i got disconnected
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[13:23] <QueenVee> hi cmell
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[13:23] <cmell> hi
[13:24] <cmell> a nice pair of sessions yesterday :)
[13:25] <QueenVee> yes, the people in the #zetatalk sessions are much more well behaved these days
[13:25] <cmell> yes, I wonder how is that ?
[13:25] <QueenVee> the logs of both sessions are up on our website....
[13:25] <cmell> yes I know :)
[13:26] <obany> cmell ?
[13:26] <cmell> I will review them later
[13:26] <cmell> yes obany ?
[13:26] <obany> well yes they behave
[13:27] <QueenVee> it's because nancy has an alternative venue now...
[13:27] <cmell> yes
[13:27] <QueenVee> if they piss her off too much, she might just pull out entirely
[13:27] <QueenVee> its all good
[13:28] <cmell> I think so too, so make a shield  = you QV , you obany  and others like me :)
[13:29] <cmell> I hope :)
[13:29] <QueenVee> :-)
[13:29] <cmell> o<|:) merry christmass
[13:31] <cmell> ping
[13:32] <QueenVee> i'm not feeling very christmasy....
[13:32] <QueenVee> just got home from taking my mother shopping at Walmart....
[13:32] <cmell> me neither ;(
[13:32] <cmell> hhmm
[13:32] <cmell> lot of christmas music, and fake santas huh
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[13:36] <cmell> hello fetus
[13:36] <QueenVee> hi fetus
[13:36] <fetus> hello!
[13:36] <QueenVee> woah, somebody's had a lot of coffee today!
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[13:37] <cmell> have you bought all your gifts ?
[13:37] <cmell> hey inside
[13:37] <fetus> me?
[13:37] <inside-revolution> hello All!
[13:37] <cmell> yes you
[13:37] <QueenVee> hello inside
[13:37] <fetus> im ready for the christ birth
[13:37] <cmell> heh
[13:38] <inside-revolution> I just look the log of yesterday chat sension
[13:38] <cmell> o<|:) merry christmass to you all
[13:38] <inside-revolution> Thanks :) Marry Christmas and lucky poleshift for you! :)
[13:38] <cmell> thx
[13:38] <cmell> :)
[13:39] <QueenVee> May all your poleshifts be gentle ones...
[13:39] <inside-revolution> most of the time unlickily I am not availbale at chat times saturdays
[13:39] <cmell> yours to QV
[13:39] <cmell> :)
[13:39] <inside-revolution> Do You tink I can ask Nanacy about the Spipritual School?
[13:39] <cmell> hhmmm sorry inside
[13:39] <inside-revolution> and what zetas think about it?
[13:40] <QueenVee> she won't answer questions like that, inside
[13:40] <inside-revolution> inthis school 13.000 people
[13:40] <inside-revolution> from lot of countries
[13:40] <inside-revolution> so not only me interested
[13:41] <inside-revolution> but a loz more people
[13:41] <QueenVee> mmm, fetus & obany: what's this all about?
[13:41] <QueenVee> [16:33] <agentY> how's life.
[13:41] <QueenVee> [16:33] <Jeremy> well, best said in private
[13:41] <QueenVee> [16:34] <agentY> oh
[13:41] <QueenVee> [16:34] <Jeremy> this session is monitored and logged now so I can't be too open as I would like
[13:41] <QueenVee> [16:34] <agentY> ok
[13:41] <QueenVee> Is Jeremy unhappy about something
[13:41] <fetus> not sure...is tt being monitored and logged?..andif so by who?
[13:41] <cmell> you have a long way to go before you can live up to mr. moon
[13:41] <cmell> inside
[13:42] <inside-revolution> yes?
[13:42] <cmell> well anybody can log this chat
[13:42] <obany> indeed
[13:42] <inside-revolution> why problem if anybody log?
[13:42] <inside-revolution> I have no secrets
[13:43] <QueenVee> sorry, brb
[13:43] <cmell> me neither inside
[13:43] <cmell> k
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[13:45] <inside-revolution> is here anybody?
[13:45] <fetus> yes
[13:45] <cmell> I am on earth are you ?
[13:45] <inside-revolution> were you in the chat with Nancy?
[13:45] <fetus> yes
[13:45] <cmell> sure I was
[13:45] <inside-revolution> I am on Marduk
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[13:46] <cmell> Marduk ?? explain
[13:46] <cmell> hi HBO2
[13:46] <fetus> wasnt agentY in here before?
[13:46] <inside-revolution> it is the old name of Nibiru
[13:46] <fetus> and if so did he get kicked?
[13:46] <HBO2> hi cemell
[13:46] <cmell> ahh, so you are one of the Giants ?
[13:46] <cmell> hi hbo
[13:47] <cmell> no NSA
[13:47] <inside-revolution> by NASA?
[13:47] <inside-revolution> is here anybody from the NASA, CIA , FBI?
[13:47] <cmell> no National Security Agency
[13:48] <inside-revolution> who is the spy?
[13:48] <cmell> NSA
[13:48] <inside-revolution> do they log it?
[13:48] <fetus> if i was in NASA the CIA or the FBI i sure as hell wouldn't tell anyone in here that.
[13:48] <cmell> sure they do
[13:48] <cmell> heh
[13:48] <cmell> fetus
[13:48] <inside-revolution> HEY NSA :)
[13:48] <cmell> fuck you NSA
[13:49] <cmell> saddam bomb missile nuclear bomb
[13:49] <inside-revolution> do you tihnk they write down our IP?
[13:49] <cmell> hahaha
[13:49] <cmell> they don't have to
[13:49] <walt> they are your IP
[13:49] <HBO2> I don't doubt we are monitored, but we are just "Zetaloons" and not worthy of much attention
[13:49] <cmell> they have machines to do that
[13:49] <inside-revolution> do you think a firewall software shows them?
[13:50] <cmell> I guess so HBO2
[13:50] <cmell> no
[13:50] <cmell> inside no firewall wil show them
[13:50] <fetus> if they want to know where you live...they could easily get it from you being in this chat room...but i think they have bigger fish to fry right now.
[13:50] <inside-revolution> do you think Nancy get lot of questions?
[13:50] <inside-revolution> or not so many peopleinterested nowdays?
[13:51] <cmell> I think so but they monitor everybody, anyway
[13:51] <fetus> yes
[13:51] <HBO2> they do keyword searches
[13:51] <cmell> I don't mind, I don't care
[13:51] <cmell> :)
[13:52] <inside-revolution> do you think Zetas would answer philosophical questions?
[13:52] <cmell> no
[13:52] <inside-revolution> about religion
[13:52] <fetus> a search string for "poleshift" or planet x" done through hotmail would be easy.
[13:52] <inside-revolution> Like they spoke about Jesus
[13:52] <fetus> see whos talking about it
[13:52] <inside-revolution> or Buddga
[13:52] <HBO2> inside-revolution, have you read Zetatalk, there is quite a bit on their philosophies there
[13:52] <cmell> fetus it's all automated
[13:52] <inside-revolution> I read
[13:52] <inside-revolution> but I have questions about other group
[13:53] <fetus> yes im sure suspect emails get plucked automaticly
[13:53] <inside-revolution> like Mani
[13:53] <inside-revolution> or Cathars
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[13:53] <inside-revolution> in the middleage
[13:53] <inside-revolution> is it possible?
[13:53] <fetus> infact their keyword list is probably huge
[13:53] <cmell> they play games too inside, only it's more like 3d chess
[13:53] <cmell> yes fetus
[13:53] <inside-revolution> it is not games
[13:54] <agentY> whose keyword list?
[13:54] <inside-revolution> they work religion groups
[13:54] <cmell> NSA's
[13:54] <inside-revolution> and went up to 4th dimension
[13:54] <agentY> oh
[13:54] <agentY> i thought aol's.hehe
[13:54] <cmell> haha
[13:54] <inside-revolution> do you think Zetas would speak about them?
[13:54] <HBO2> no
[13:55] <cmell> them = ?
[13:55] <inside-revolution> about teh Cathars
[13:55] <inside-revolution> or group of Mani
[13:55] <cmell> cathars ?
[13:55] <agentY> post office, search addressin usa, only takes 1.01 seconds.
[13:56] <cmell> hhhm less than that :(
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[13:56] <inside-revolution> http://www.gnosis.org/library/manis.htm
[13:56] <cmell> hey JG
[13:56] <inside-revolution> it is about Mani
[13:56] <JG> hey all
[13:56] <inside-revolution> 1 in and I look for Cathars too
[13:56] <inside-revolution> Hey JG
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[13:56] <cmell> just a sec or two inside
[13:57] <inside-revolution> http://www.gnosis.org/library/cathtx.htm
[13:57] <inside-revolution> it is about the Cathars
[13:57] <cmell> I'm an ateist, inside
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[13:57] <cmell> hi agenty
[13:57] <inside-revolution> ok no problem
[13:58] <inside-revolution> do you look the page?
[13:58] <cmell> yes too religious for me
[13:58] <inside-revolution> do you think Zetas would speak about it?
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[13:58] <Ummite> hello all
[13:58] <cmell> gimme a second look
[13:58] <inside-revolution> around 1 miilion Cathars and Maniheus was killed in the middle age
[13:58] <cmell> hi ummite
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[13:59] <inside-revolution> by Catholis church
[13:59] <Richard> Hello from New Zealand
[13:59] <cmell> yes the catholics did do alot of dammage
[13:59] <fetus> im out
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[13:59] <inside-revolution> maybe Zetas would tell us the story and important things in this happenings
[13:59] <cmell> hi richard
[13:59] <HBO2> hi Richard, great 2 hr show on NZ on Travel channel last night
[14:00] <Richard> Travel show all a bit late in the piece now
[14:00] <cmell> perhaps/hopefully
[14:01] <inside-revolution> how can we ask zetas?
[14:01] <inside-revolution> do I need to send email to Nancy?
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[14:02] <Richard> (inside rev) make the call
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[14:02] <inside-revolution> how?
[14:02] <Lightspeed> Hi!
[14:02] <inside-revolution> do I need to concentrtate?
[14:02] <obany> Agenda
[14:02] <obany> Questions should be submitted via the Contact Nancy and will be selected based on their relevance to issues the Zetas deem important or the broad base of interest in a particular subject. Obviously, personal questions of interest only to an individual will not be selected.  
[14:02] <cmell> I was outraged by the apollogy made by the catholic church, for whatver atrocities they have made during the last 2000 years
[14:02] <inside-revolution> HEllo Light!
[14:03] <cmell> hi ligh
[14:03] <inside-revolution> Let the Light be with US! :)
[14:03] <cmell> t
[14:03] <Lightspeed> Is there any news?
[14:03] <Lightspeed> :)
[14:03] <Richard> normally you would normally think you are asking jesus or god for help or advice. That's the call but not to how earth based religion has taught us.
[14:04] <obany> well lightspeed http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
[14:04] <Lightspeed> Thanks, obany, I already checked out.
[14:04] <Lightspeed> Anything else?
[14:05] <cmell> Obany are there any new pics ?
[14:05] <obany> cmell: not yet ... just some updates .. the same as yesterday
[14:06] <obany> and this http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tt-watch/message/11860
[14:06] <cmell> ok
[14:07] <Richard> (inside rev) earth based religion you pray. To make the call it is telepathic. No need to get on your knees
[14:07] <cmell> oh good, my knees is hurting :)
[14:08] <tenshu> reset
[14:08] <obany> and if one makes the call to STS ... they take it by a device that mesaures brainwaves or so .. for what i read
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[14:08] <inside-revolution> oh good
[14:08] <inside-revolution> and what will happenM
[14:08] <inside-revolution> I think I sent it
[14:08] <Richard> that's what I thought also Obany. Could that be 'remote viewing' ?
[14:09] <cmell> no obany, one can make the call to anybody without any technical means
[14:09] <obany> cmell: yes, but it's how it taken .. check zetatalk ... to give the call you don't need a technical means .. but well moment
[14:10] <cmell> wha'
[14:10] <cmell> what do you mean ??
[14:10] <Richard> Guess I should introduce myself
[14:10] <cmell> yes
[14:11] <cmell> Richard the lionheart :)
[14:11] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/call/c39.htm
[14:11] <cmell> brb
[14:12] <Lightspeed> Just a question. Can anybody tell me some telepatic exercirses? I have some skill, but I can't use it on my will, only to get my fellow people's feelings, emotions. But it is a usefull knowledge if you want to help others.
[14:12] <Richard> 49/male/married/still think like a hippy/have always loved the spiritual side of the red indian
[14:12] <Ummite> do you really know what is telepathie
[14:12] <Lightspeed> Yes.
[14:12] <Ummite> feel your instinct
[14:13] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b82.htm
[14:13] <Ummite> when you have the feeling that something is wrong its because something is wrong
[14:13] <obany>     * Likewise, learning to trust your senses, if you think you are in contact, rather than reject them as silly thoughts, can help you make full use of what ability you have. Practice with some friends, and compare what you received with what they have sent or written down, to gain confidence.
[14:13] <Richard> yesterday my wife and I went for a drive and I gave the call to hopefully be guided to the area we are searching to ride out the passege
[14:14] <Ummite> the only thing you have to do is trust your instinct
[14:14] <Lightspeed> I had many times spontaneous experiences, to hear inside my head what my fellow wanted to say. But he did'nt said. We booth were surprised.
[14:15] <obany> just check the link i gave earlier, and yes, trust your snes is also right
[14:15] <Richard> first farm house we stopped at were tradional farming family. No joy there.
[14:15] <obany> brb
[14:16] <Richard> secod plac ewe saw a house bus pulling into the property.
[14:16] <cmell> back
[14:16] <Lightspeed> obany: what does brb means?
[14:16] <cmell> be right back
[14:16] <Ummite> its sure that is right because i experience it many time but some time it is not what i yhink because of that i prefer to not use it
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[14:17] <Lightspeed> Thanks cmell
[14:17] <cmell> hey ZP
[14:17] <cmell> np
[14:17] <cmell> =no problem
[14:17] <Zetapal> hey dude
[14:17] <Richard> drove in and introduced ourselves. Got straight to the point about the coming passage and ended up with these people for approx 2 hours.
[14:18] <cmell> and richard ?
[14:18] <Richard> hope to hear positive news from them but if not both my wife & I said to each other that at least we have given the message
[14:18] <Richard> I gave the call and the call lead us to that site & people
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[14:19] <cmell> hhmmm
[14:19] <QueenVee> hello Richard
[14:19] <Lightspeed> Hi, Queen!
[14:19] <Richard> turns out they have a medicine woman/herbalist also living on the land
[14:19] <Ummite> hello Queen
[14:19] <cmell> wb QV
[14:19] <Richard> Hi QueenVee
[14:19] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room, Richard?
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[14:20] <Richard> I have NEVER EVER walked straight up to anyone in my life and said outright what is going to happen
[14:20] * QueenVee sets mode: +b agentY!*none@66-65-0-227.nyc.rr.com
[14:20] <obany> QueenVee: why that ban ?
[14:21] <cmell> nor have I Richard
[14:21] <Richard> Queen if you ask Nancy she will vouch for me ... I think
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[14:21] <inkpen> hello
[14:21] <cmell> hello ink
[14:21] <QueenVee> no need for a voucher, Richard
[14:21] <Richard> have been sending info to her for some time about news
[14:21] <obany> so you are into this for some time now Richard?
[14:21] <QueenVee> Richard: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk? What part of the world do you live in?
[14:22] <Richard> Queen since not long after 911 and live in New Zealand
[14:22] <Richard> read the zeta talk log every Monday here in NZ
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[14:23] <cmell> just a sec brb
[14:23] <obany> and you take it 'highly'  serious for what i gather?
[14:23] <QueenVee> Richard: well, now you can read the logs earlier. We have them up on our website usually the same day: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[14:23] <Richard> very serious Obany
[14:23] <cmell> back
[14:24] <Richard> Queen found shift2003 after last log and have now bookmarked and that's how I enetered this room
[14:24] <QueenVee> great!
[14:24] <Richard> in the past I have been paranoid about making myself known
[14:24] <QueenVee> Richard: are you in a safe location, or are you planning to relocate?
[14:24] <Richard> but after yesterday I think a change has happened
[14:25] <QueenVee> interesting -- why?
[14:25] <Richard> gonna have to relocate as we are on old river bed
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[14:25] <QueenVee> where are you thinking of relocating to?
[14:25] <cmell> I'll be away for 10 minutes , sorry
[14:25] <inkpen> c yA
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[14:25] <QueenVee> np cmell
[14:26] <Richard> hills Queen
[14:26] <HBO2> Richard, have you read the "safe locs" section on NZ?
[14:26] <QueenVee> Richard: and do you have a family or community?
[14:26] <Richard> yes
[14:26] <HBO2> ok,good
[14:26] <Richard> family yes. Community no
[14:27] <QueenVee> hi HBO!
[14:27] <HBO2> ehllo q, how are ya?
[14:27] <Zetapal> back
[14:27] <QueenVee> not bad.... considering
[14:27] <Richard> further up the log I talk about what happened yesterday
[14:27] <QueenVee> Richard: yes, i've read that now
[14:27] <HBO2> QueenVee, btw, what is the use of !
[14:28] <QueenVee> HBO: uh.... enthusiasm....?
[14:28] <inkpen> !
[14:28] <inkpen> !users
[14:28] <HBO2> ok, thought it might be more cryptic :)))
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[14:29] <inkpen> heh
[14:30] <HBO2> QueenVee, the Sat chats with Nancy here seem to be becomming more poignant than the ZT chats :)
[14:30] <Richard> is everyone here (currently) in the USA?
[14:30] <QueenVee> well, they deal more directly with the reality of the shift and aftertime....
[14:30] <inkpen> canada
[14:30] <QueenVee> ontario canada
[14:31] <HBO2> USA here, but there are some Europeans here also
[14:31] <Richard> I know all your 'nicks' from zetatalk so in some ways I kind of feel I already partly know you
[14:31] <cmellAFK> yes HBO
[14:31] <inkpen> kewl
[14:31] <QueenVee> Obany and Jurian are in the Netherlands, inside is in Hungary, Zetapal is in Virginia, Ummite is in Quebec, ....
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[14:32] <butchy> hello all
[14:32] <inkpen> hi  butchy
[14:32] <QueenVee> Lightspeed is in Hugary, raincity is in seattle, ukuz is in hawaii....
[14:32] <QueenVee> butchy?
[14:32] <butchy> hi inkpen
[14:32] <Richard> global
[14:32] <QueenVee> what's with the new name, butch
[14:32] <Jurian> xmas-butch :p
[14:32] <butchy> my alt...having trouble keeping a connection...so i think mirc has defaulted to my alt...
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[14:33] <butchy> back attcha Jurian..:)
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[14:33] <QueenVee> ydgrasil is in new mexico, Ralf is in california, inkpen is in BC canada
[14:33] <QueenVee> cmell is in denmark
[14:33] <inkpen> wb cmell
[14:33] <cmell> yes
[14:33] <cmell> thx
[14:33] <QueenVee> Richard: are you interested in connecting with other poleshifters in New Zealand, and Australia perhaps?
[14:33] <butchy> and butchy is in the wilds of west virginia...:)
[14:33] <Zetapal> cmel Taken6 now on alt.binaries.multimedia
[14:34] <cmell> most are in the americas
[14:34] <QueenVee> (knew i'd left somebody out)
[14:34] <Richard> anyone read old prophecies such as from Hopi Indian or Maori myths etc ?
[14:34] <cmell> ok thx ZP
[14:34] <butchy> hey Zetapal...what's shakin???
[14:34] <QueenVee> Richard: yes, indeed
[14:34] <Zetapal> Hey butch, getting by,tryin to stay out of trouble
[14:34] <Richard> Queen yes I would be keen to meet other NZers/Australians. I know there are at least two from the logs
[14:35] <HBO2> Mother Shipton, Cayce, you name, we've read it :)))
[14:35] <butchy> me and son when to see "nemesis" today...saw a trailer for the new movie.."the core" that looks pretty good...
[14:35] <Zetapal> butch - enjoying football today
[14:35] <Richard> great ... this is like meeting family
[14:35] <butchy> keep up the good work,Zetapal...lol
[14:35] <QueenVee> Richard: well, in the next couple of day's we're going to be launching a new section of the site, "NETWORK WITH OTHERS", designed to help people connect with others in their area....
[14:35] <HBO2> Zetapal, how bout them kick-ass Titans :)
[14:35] <butchy> sorry, Zetapal...i'm not into sports...not your typical guy...lol
[14:36] <Zetapal> butch - you're on a dial-up yes?
[14:36] <QueenVee> Richard: if you'd like me to send you more info about that, just give me your email address on a private channel
[14:36] <Richard> my wife & I are collecting seed. Everything from dock seed to spinach seed
[14:36] <butchy> for now...trying to get broadband through the cable provider here...won't be till after christmas though...can't freakin wait...;)
[14:36] <Richard> Queen how do I access a private channel?
[14:37] <inkpen> or like this
[14:37] <inkpen> #blah
[14:37] <QueenVee> Richard: just double click in my name in the nickname list on the right
[14:37] <QueenVee> or type the following:  /query QueenVee
[14:37] <butchy> good idea, Richard...i've got some seeds stashed...although don't know if planting in the first year or so after the shift will be a good idea...might be a waste of seed...
[14:37] <obany>  /query <nickname> message also works
[14:38] <butchy> hi obany...how've you been..?
[14:38] <obany> fine fine and you butch ?
[14:38] <Richard> aha part of my screen isn't showing such as the right hand users list
[14:38] <butchy> doing ok...living day by day...;)
[14:38] <QueenVee> ok, Richard, then just type this and hit return:  /query QueenVee
[14:39] * inkpen coughs
[14:39] * Jurian is now known as JurAFK
[14:39] <JurAFK> night all, and merry xxxmas :p
[14:39] <butchy> got a cold , inkpen?
[14:39] <inkpen> yea
[14:39] <butchy> bye JurAFK...take care
[14:40] <inkpen> chest infection
[14:40] <obany> sleep tight Jurian
[14:40] <cmell> he's out of ink
[14:40] <butchy> seems to be a lot of that going around recently..
[14:40] <cmell> hehe
[14:40] <inkpen> yep heh
[14:40] <Lightspeed> Inkpen: Try Tea with Rum
[14:40] <inkpen> mmm
[14:40] <QueenVee> hey guys, did ya see that Michael Cunningham now says that he won't be showing anyone his pics until after June 2003 -- why? -- because he fears that Nancy will "misuse them"....
[14:40] * butchy wonders about the coorelation of chemtrail spraying to outbreaks of sickness...
[14:41] * cmell hands a new can of ink to inkpen
[14:41] <inkpen> thnx cmel
[14:41] <butchy> didn't hear that , QueenVee
[14:41] <inkpen> whered you here that qv?
[14:41] <butchy> maybe because they show something there???
[14:41] <HBO2> q, he's going to be a little late with that info isn't he
[14:41] <cmell> strange QV
[14:42] <HBO2> bet he'll sell them to you now tho
[14:42] <QueenVee> he posted that on TT-Watch today....
[14:42] <cmell> sorry
[14:42] <HBO2> he's still allowed there?
[14:42] <inkpen> what gives? should a poleshift happen what is the point in releasing them later
[14:43] <QueenVee> i couldn't resist replying to his post, as follows:
[14:43] <QueenVee> Well, how very coy. Not to mention *convenient*.
[14:43] <QueenVee> Thanks for confirming what we already knew -- that all we can expect
[14:43] <QueenVee> from you is further carping from the sidelines and nothing whatsoever
[14:43] <QueenVee> of substance....
[14:43] <cmell> what zetapal ???
[14:43] <inkpen> heh
[14:44] <QueenVee> yes, Lightspeed, i got it. just haven't had a time to look at it yet.
[14:44] <Lightspeed> Ok, queen.
[14:45] <QueenVee> Cunningham refusing to show his pics just makes me think they're not different from Steve's
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[14:45] <inkpen> hi sp26
[14:45] <QueenVee> hello sp26 -- what brings you to this room?
[14:46] <sp26> info
[14:46] <inkpen> yes er, what kind of info
[14:47] <QueenVee> sp26: what kind of info are you after?
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[14:47] <inkpen> hi shiela
[14:47] <QueenVee> hello sheila -- welcome
[14:47] <sheila> hello
[14:48] <QueenVee> we always see you here for Saturday ZT sessions, and it's nice to see you in between too....
[14:48] <QueenVee> what part of the world do you live in, Sheila?
[14:48] <sheila> I'm in colorado
[14:48] <sheila> where are you queen?
[14:48] <inkpen> sp26?
[14:49] <QueenVee> ontario canada
[14:49] <QueenVee> sheila: are you staying put?
[14:49] <sp26> North Dakota
[14:49] <sheila> I think so, but I'm considering taking a "vacation" to minnesota in may
[14:50] <QueenVee> ah, good idea
[14:50] <inkpen> sp26, what do you think about the possibility of a poleshift?
[14:50] <sheila> from what I've read on zetatalk, it may be safer there
[14:50] <Richard> brb
[14:50] <QueenVee> sheila: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[14:51] <sheila> I am really not 100 percent convinced even though my gut tells me it's true
[14:51] <Lightspeed> Shelia: You are not alone
[14:51] <Zetapal> Hi sheila baby :)
[14:51] <sheila> I wish we could get better confirmation with the px images
[14:51] <sheila> hi zetapal
[14:52] <inkpen> you stil with us sp?
[14:52] <QueenVee> well, it is wise to prepare for all eventualities -- the poleshift happening, and the poleshift not happening....
[14:52] <sp26> is everyone making any real preparations now or waiting for more proof?like better pictures
[14:52] <sheila> i first heard of the poleshift on artbell a year ago
[14:53] <inkpen> are you?
[14:53] <QueenVee> sp26: this chatroom is about making real preparations -- so the answer is yes....
[14:53] <Lightspeed> Queen: this makes our lifes mess up, but this also changing our spirit, and I think, this is the most important, poleshift or no poleshift
[14:53] <sheila> sp26 my preperations have been pretty much just trying to gather survival knowledge,
[14:53] <inkpen> that is why we are here is it not...to prepare
[14:53] <Zetapal> sheila did you listen to your SB int yet? good?
[14:53] <QueenVee> Lightspeed: very well said
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[14:54] <QueenVee> hello petri
[14:54] <sheila> I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet zetapal
[14:54] <Zetapal> :(
[14:55] <Richard> have nearly 100 sweetcorn plants in our garden and all are stunted. some no cobs forming. some tassels out no cobs. We are entering summer here in New Zealand
[14:55] <Richard> so corn crop is no good
[14:55] <sheila> I've was out of town visiting family today, will listen to it tonight
[14:56] <QueenVee> nancy really liked that question about sylvia browne
[14:56] <QueenVee> much to my surprise
[14:56] <Richard> some potato plants are doing well then a potato plant next to a good one will have tiny informed potato's
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[14:57] <Richard> informed = unformed
[14:57] <HBO2> Richard, ahve you had a veery dry spring?
[14:57] <QueenVee> Richard: yes, a low-light crop, good for the aftertime
[14:57] <butchy> weather is definately messing with the crops...
[14:57] <Richard> not 'very' dry but a little dryer than normal but also not blazing sun but many overcast grey cloudy days
[14:57] <sheila> richard, are you growing your potatoes from seed?
[14:58] <QueenVee> sheila: potatoes ARE seed
[14:58] <Richard> from seed potato sheila
[14:58] <butchy> yeah...cut off a piece and let it take root..:)
[14:58] <QueenVee> best if there's an eye on it
[14:58] <sheila> I just read somewhere, where potatoes will go to seed and you can save the seed
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[14:59] <Richard> an old 80+ year ex farmer told me you can grow potato's in barley straw ... with no soil
[14:59] <QueenVee> Richard: yes, i've heard that
[14:59] <Richard> he said he had seen it with his own eyes
[14:59] <butchy> any kind of medium that can retain water for awhile is probably...
[15:00] <butchy> most plants can grow in all sorts of mediums...given the right amount of moisture and food...
[15:00] <butchy> fertilizer
[15:00] <Richard> in the past I've used grass clippings to build up the mulch around potato's but never followed the trail to the end
[15:00] <Richard> mulch could rot the potato plant?
[15:00] <QueenVee> no, mulch prevents rot
[15:01] <butchy> i guess it depends on the plants nature...if they can take lots of moisture or not..
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[15:01] <Richard> well must try that again thanks Queen
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[15:01] <Richard> its mid day Monday here incidently
[15:01] <inkpen> wb ydgrasil
[15:01] * Zetapal is away: so much to do, if you need me ,pvt.or somethin
[15:01] <QueenVee> but rot and mold are really going to be a problem in the aftertime, with the constant drizzle
[15:02] <butchy> thinking more of worm farming and such in the aftertime...then in a year or two when things clear up alittle trying the veggie seeds...
[15:02] <butchy> yeah, QueenVee
[15:02] <inkpen> worm farming?
[15:02] <Richard> having stuff to barter with will be important
[15:03] <Richard> example: seeds
[15:03] <butchy> and of course...if you see any plants that adapt to the post shift climate...best be sure to gather those seeds..
[15:03] <butchy> yeah, Richard...they will be worth thier weight in gold...so to speak..
[15:03] <Richard> even our local privately owned garden centre has a sign on the wall saying they will barter
[15:03] <Richard> that blew me away when I saw it
[15:04] <sheila> does anyone have any good information on long term storage for seeds?
[15:04] <butchy> trading/barter is big up here in the mountains ..as people have little money..
[15:04] <Richard> subcounciously people know a change is coming
[15:04] * HBO-away is now known as HBO
[15:04] <butchy> keep them dry and cool...
[15:04] <QueenVee> it's too bad that this new strain of rice won't be available before the shift: http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/11/26/tough.rice.ap/index.html
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[15:04] <QueenVee> wb WestCoast
[15:04] <inkpen> hi west_coast
[15:04] <West_coast> hello
[15:04] <Richard> just the marjority don't want to think it will be something as extreme as what is coming
[15:04] <inkpen> wb HBO
[15:05] <HBO> Victoria, gotta go butcher something for dinner, see ya later :)
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[15:05] <kardin> hi
[15:05] <QueenVee> Richard: nancy really addressed that well in her last ZT...
[15:05] <QueenVee> hello kardin -- what brings you to this room?
[15:05] <inkpen> hi kardin
[15:05] <HBO> bye
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[15:05] <butchy> they are in denial then..
[15:05] <kardin> well..just intrested
[15:06] <Richard> Nancy is a brick and I will stand up for her. Some people are nasty with their pointed attacks on her and I hope she is looked after in the aftertime
[15:06] <QueenVee> Kardin: just interested? Topic is 'MAY2003 POLESHIFT & AFTERTIME. For those wish to seriously discuss preparation & lead-up events. Newcomers & the simply curious should begin by reading www.ZetaTalk.com for basic info and/or join #EarthChanges for more general poleshift/PX chat.'
[15:06] <Richard> she deserves it
[15:06] <QueenVee> Richard: couldn't agree more
[15:07] <kardin> QueenVee, mkay
[15:07] <Richard> so people here have their own children? We have three
[15:07] <QueenVee> i can't imagine the pressure she is under... anyone else would crack....
[15:07] <butchy> nancy is just a messenger...i think that whether or not she makes it in the aftertime, or is remembered...it's not relavent...
[15:07] <obany> Richard: i agree about Nancy
[15:07] <butchy> yep, QueenVee
[15:08] <Richard> how are you finding communicating the poleshift message to them?
[15:08] * cmellAFK is now known as cmell
[15:08] <butchy> it's the message that counts...
[15:08] <cmell> back
[15:08] <QueenVee> butch: of course it's relevant -- she will have a continuing role to play
[15:08] <butchy> wb cmell
[15:08] <cmell> thx
[15:08] <obany> butchy: http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t115.htm
[15:08] <obany> remember that
[15:08] <butchy> we can only hope, QueenVee...you never know what the future holds...;)
[15:09] <Lightspeed> Richard: I don't have children yet, even not a wife. But I used to take care of ill children at every summer.
[15:09] <Richard> our son is receptive but still waiting for a more serious sign. One daughter is on the fence but will let mum & dad guide but the youngest who has recently given birth to our first grand child will not enertain any such notion
[15:11] <obany> well i am still single... no children ... but if i would have them then i would tell them in some manner it also depends on the age of the kids of course
[15:11] <inkpen> seeya later
[15:11] <cmell> I am a total failure :(   , at least thats the way I feal :(
[15:11] <cmell> later ink
[15:11] * inkpen is now known as inkpenAFK
[15:11] <Richard> Lightspeed you better survive or there will be questions asked ;+)
[15:11] <butchy> don't feel that way , cmell...believe me there are people that are worse off than us...
[15:12] <QueenVee> Richard: have you read the ZT section on the leadership role that children will play in the aftertime?
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[15:12] <cmell> I hope not :(
[15:12] <butchy> then why do you say that, cmell?
[15:12] <Richard> Queen yes ... but I find some sections need re-reading so will read that section again
[15:12] <cmell> I can't make my life work right
[15:13] <QueenVee> here it is, richard: it's one of my favourites: http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t113.htm
[15:13] <West_coast> probably not your fault, cmell
[15:13] <Richard> my wife says she is preparing me to be like Johnny Appleseed in the aftertime
[15:13] <cmell> I've tried n' tried :(
[15:13] <butchy> hey...i know what you mean...but i constantly try to think the positive...mine's been topsey turvey for the past 3 months...but i'm still pluggin along..
[15:13] <cmell> I hope not west
[15:13] <Richard> thanks Queen
[15:14] <West_coast> other forces at work, I think
[15:14] <cmell> I feel like it's otherworldly
[15:14] <West_coast> could be
[15:14] <cmell> but I don't know
[15:15] <butchy> it's a "life test"...methinks...we are all being tested now...and the best(worst) is yet to come....remember, we are here in this existance to learn something...
[15:15] <Richard> ignore this line
[15:15] <cmell> how do you feel west ?
[15:15] <West_coast> When I decided to do something, I got spun around a bunch of times
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[15:16] <QueenVee> time remaining until the poleshift: 4 months + 23 days
[15:16] <QueenVee> Time remaining until PX is visible in the sky: 3 months + 9 days
[15:16] <cmell> I hope it's a noshow :)
[15:16] <QueenVee> i just like to throw that out now and then
[15:17] <West_coast> thanks
[15:17] <butch> who was it that said..."these are the times that try men's souls.."...was it churchill???(trying to remember history class..lol)
[15:17] <cmell> it could have been
[15:17] <cmell> hhmm
[15:17] <Richard> from memory Hopi Indian say these times will be both terrible but exciting at the same time
[15:17] <butch> anyone feel free to give the answer ...lol;)
[15:17] <butch> yeah, raincityAFK
[15:18] <butch> oops...Richard
[15:18] <butch> lol
[15:18] <cmell> oops, sounded like a private message hehe
[15:18] <Richard> don't worry about me I get over excited at times
[15:18] <cmell> haha
[15:19] <Richard> the biggest test of our lifes is coming
[15:19] <Richard> and for the first time ever I feel we will all be on equal ground
[15:20] <QueenVee> yes, as ZT says, the poleshift is the great equalizer
[15:20] <Richard> no people with loads of money making you feel inferior
[15:20] <cmell> yes, and I hope it's going to be quick
[15:20] <West_coast> for some it already has been a leap of faith
[15:20] <QueenVee> well, people with loads of money don't make me feel inferior.... they just make me feel financially-challenged.....
[15:21] <cmell> I am in debt :(
[15:21] <Richard> same thing Queen ... both place stress on you when other things are more important
[15:21] <Richard> same here cmell
[15:22] <Richard> but now the secret is out all payments are stritly drip feed
[15:22] <cmell> I quess I can escape my debt, with the coming poleshift :)
[15:22] <Richard> stritly - strictly
[15:23] <cmell> we understand that Rich
[15:23] <butch> cmell...i'm in bankruptsy...so don't feel bad...
[15:23] <cmell> heh
[15:24] <cmell> lets join hands everybody
[15:24] * cmell reaches out
[15:24] <Zetapal> lol
[15:24] <butch> but i have a place to live and can work and buy groceries and pay the bills...remember ...the banks want you to be in debted to them....it's how they make thier money...i'll be glad when those bloodsuckers are gone too...lol
[15:24] <cmell> you too zetapal
[15:24] <Zetapal> ah cmel thats not my hand
[15:24] <cmell> hahah
[15:24] <Zetapal> lol
[15:25] <Richard> tonnage carried by trucks on NZ roads has increased in 4 years (by law) from 36 to 44 to 56 and soon to 60+ tonne. Roads aren't designed to carry such wait and as I live next to a major state highway my house is slowly shaking to bits
[15:25] * cmell fondles around
[15:25] * butch hopes there's no bankers in the ranks that take offense...lo
[15:25] <cmell> lol
[15:25] <cmell> haha
[15:25] <butch> hmmm....lawyers and bankers...can you say ..."parasites"..lmao
[15:25] <cmell> parasites
[15:26] <cmell> yes I could
[15:26] <Richard> ha my son in law is a banker but will he listen to me. NOPE
[15:26] <cmell> NOT
[15:26] <West_coast> richard: how bad is it in Australia?
[15:26] <Richard> you mean weather west coast ?
[15:26] <cmell> I silenced Zetapal huh ?
[15:26] <butch> oh, yeah...the pictures always rosey.with bankers and stockbrokers...the recovery is "just around the corner.."
[15:27] <West_coast> Economy, weather whatever
[15:27] <QueenVee> Richard: your son in law has too much invested in the current status quo....
[15:27] <Richard> very bad from what I've read. Anyone see that picture on rense.com of the duststorm in Aussie?
[15:27] <butch> and they'll be believers in the fiat system till the very end, QueenVee...
[15:28] <QueenVee> think about it, guys: for those of us who have experienced financial difficulty, disillusionment, etc in the last few years -- perhaps this was a necessary prelude; otherwise we too would have too much invested in the current system and would not be as inclined to consider a different paradigm...
[15:28] <Richard> got an email from an Australian acquintance yesterday who said fruit trees in his garden were stunted
[15:28] <obany> i have seen that pic yes
[15:29] <obany> some weeks ago
[15:29] <cmell> perhaps QV
[15:29] <Richard> yes Obany
[15:29] <Richard> that storm was HUGE and they are still happening apparently
[15:29] <sheila> that just might be true queen
[15:29] <Richard> I agree queen
[15:30] <Lightspeed> Richard: How HUGE?
[15:31] <Richard> Lightspeed WAY bigger than a picture of a 6 foot wave off the coast of Hawaii
[15:31] <Richard> this thing towered over the houses of rooftops
[15:32] <Richard> reports are millions of tonnes of soil are disappearing from the land
[15:32] <QueenVee> HEADS UP: J.William Dell has just posted the following on TT-Watch: "I have completed an analysis of the Dec 13/14 Steve Havas images. The findings are available at http://www.zetabc.com/jwd/index.htm ".
[15:32] <Richard> NZ is 1,000 miles from Sydney and we were told the soil/dust would reach NZ
[15:35] <QueenVee> well, that sure stopped the conversation....
[15:36] <West_coast> I went to the bank last week. They couldn't get the vault open.
[15:36] <West_coast> Combination wouldn't work.
[15:37] <butch> i hate it when that happens...lol
[15:37] <QueenVee> hehe
[15:38] <Richard> what from west coast? The building had moved or run out of money?
[15:39] <Richard> hehe
[15:39] <West_coast> Just wouldn't open. Manager very upset
[15:39] <butch> hmmm...ground shifted and jammed it??
[15:40] <West_coast> remote lock-out?
[15:40] <butch> dunno...i'm not a locksmith...lol
[15:41] <Richard> computer malfunction maybe
[15:41] <West_coast> test?
[15:41] * obany goes now bye bye
[15:42] <cmell> bye
[15:42] <Richard> bye
[15:42] <butch> well...i personally believe that computer systems will start to wack out...going into the shift..
[15:42] <butch> bye obany
[15:42] <QueenVee> butch: why would they?
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[15:43] <Richard> butch there are times already when a website won't come up or things are running slow
[15:43] <cmell> superman is flying above the city, and then suddenly he spots wonderwoman lying with the legs spread, and he thinks hhmm why not fly down and shag her ??
[15:44] <butch> well..zt says that satellites will start to malfunction...i think it'll go to the individual user level...magnetic field flux and all that...
[15:44] <cmell> hhmm yes , he does so superman speed
[15:44] <cmell> then superwoman says "what was that"
[15:44] <Richard> you lost me there cmell. So does that mean they'll have a fast kid?
[15:45] <cmell> "I don't know"
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[15:45] <cmell> says the invisble man, but it sure hurt
[15:45] <Richard> ouch!
[15:46] <cmell> hahaha
[15:46] <cmell> sorry
[15:46] <Richard> so are people stocking up on garden implements?
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[15:46] <Manakin> Hello
[15:46] <West_coast> seeds too
[15:46] <QueenVee> hello manakin, what brings you to this room?
[15:46] <cmell> hey manakin
[15:46] <Richard> just to change the subject ~:+)
[15:47] <Manakin> curiosity
[15:47] <QueenVee> Richard: stocking up on everything
[15:47] <cmell> sorry guys
[15:47] <QueenVee> Manakin: PLEASE NOTE:  Topic is 'MAY2003 POLESHIFT & AFTERTIME. For those wish to seriously discuss preparation & lead-up events. Newcomers & the simply curious should begin by reading www.ZetaTalk.com for basic info and/or join #EarthChanges for more general poleshift/PX chat.'
[15:47] <Manakin> OK
[15:47] <Richard> I'm kinda worried about how to move everything .... including the kitchen sink
[15:47] <West_coast> one big truck or lots of trips
[15:48] <Manakin> I need to know how to convince people that this is actually going to happen
[15:48] <Manakin> most of my friends are quite skeptical
[15:48] <QueenVee> Manakin: are you convinced yourself?
[15:48] <cmell> Richard don't be worried
[15:48] <Manakin> I am convince
[15:48] <Manakin> d
[15:48] <West_coast> If they are very religious, forget it
[15:48] <Richard> lots of trips but I think the price of gas/petrol is going to start climbing VERY SOON
[15:48] <QueenVee> Manakin: all you can do is introduce them to the material. everyone must make up their own minds.
[15:48] <cmell> yes Rich
[15:49] <Manakin> well, a friend of mine is quite Mormon, no offense to anyone, and she actually listened to me
[15:49] <cmell> ok good
[15:49] <QueenVee> Manakin: good. what are YOU doing to prepare for the poleshift?
[15:49] <West_coast> I was generalizing
[15:49] <Richard> was told yesterday the price barrel of oil had got to US$60. Anyone confirm this?
[15:49] <QueenVee> Richard: you raise an interesting point
[15:49] <cmell> thats ok west
[15:49] <Manakin> well, I'm going to read up some more on it and look into safe locations, but I don't know if I will go without my family
[15:50] <West_coast> Venezuela is going to cut of deliveries, according to news
[15:50] <cmell> you guys have to take care
[15:50] <West_coast> off
[15:50] <Richard> which country you in Manakin?
[15:50] <Manakin> USA
[15:50] <QueenVee> Richard: ZT has discouraged people from trying to store gas and other fuels for use in the aftertime, because it is likely to explode -- but perhaps one should be stocking up for the final days leading up to the shift....
[15:50] <Manakin> southern CA
[15:50] <West_coast> Propane is an option
[15:51] <Manakin> if you store gas for  long time, it can become weaker
[15:51] <Manakin> gasoline
[15:51] <QueenVee> WestCoast: propoane is just as likely to explode
[15:51] <West_coast> OK
[15:51] <Manakin> just by a lot of cigarette lighters
[15:51] <Lightspeed> :)
[15:51] <Richard> I stored gasoline/petrol for three years and used it in a motor mower. It seemed to work fine
[15:51] <Manakin> well, mowers don't need potent gasoline
[15:52] <Manakin> some generators are quite picky
[15:52] <QueenVee> well, i'm sure a couple of months storage before the shift is not going to make much of a difference
[15:52] <cmell> http://www.ledkeychain.homestead.com/Foreverflashlight.html
[15:52] <Manakin> no...I mean in the span of over a year, but you can't really start that now
[15:52] <QueenVee> to prepare for the possibility of a gas shortage in the final days
[15:52] <West_coast> Alternative energy, wind power
[15:53] <Manakin> there will be a lot of wind
[15:53] <Richard> one thing we have bought are magnesium blocks. Scrape some off with a knife (size of a quarter) and it will light even damp stuff because magnesium burns very hot
[15:53] <Lightspeed> And certain territories there will be lot of water.
[15:53] <Manakin> but you need a blowtorch to light it quickly
[15:53] <West_coast> where do you get magnesium blocks
[15:53] <Lightspeed> Do not forget the water power, too.
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[15:53] <butch> back
[15:53] <Manakin> go to a junkyard and find a car with mag wheels
[15:53] <Richard> we bought ours in a camping shop
[15:53] <cmell> wb butch
[15:53] <Manakin> buy the wheels
[15:54] <butch> thanks
[15:54] <QueenVee> Richard: great suggestion
[15:54] <cmell> yes great
[15:54] <Richard> \they cost $25NZ so in US$ that's approx $12
[15:54] <West_coast> a lot better than burning C-4
[15:55] <Zetapal> now THATS a fire - lol
[15:55] <cmell> heh
[15:55] <West_coast> actually works great
[15:55] <Zetapal> rollem around charlie,,,
[15:55] <West_coast> if you have c
[15:55] <Richard> it was called "Fire Started Allume-Feu". Made in Canada
[15:55] <butch> c4 burns...but it's also a deadly explosive..
[15:55] <Manakin> sodium gives quite a bang, as well
[15:56] <West_coast> I was kidding
[15:56] <cmell> it's late, so I have to say goodbye
[15:56] <Manakin> ok...bye
[15:56] <cmell> bye
[15:56] <Manakin> have a good day
[15:56] <Richard> later cmell
[15:56] <cmell> later guys
[15:56] <Zetapal> yake care cmel
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[15:56] <Lightspeed> by cmell
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[15:57] <Manakin> has anyone heard of "Heatermeals"?
[15:58] <QueenVee> WELL, KIDS: I'm off to the movies for the evening, won't be back until late. Behave yourselves....
[15:58] <Manakin> what r u gonna see?
[15:58] <QueenVee> the second installment of Lord of the Rings
[15:58] <Manakin> YEAH!!!
[15:58] <West_coast> Kids?
[15:58] <Richard> early version of "The Core"  ;+)
[15:58] <Manakin> I haven't seen it, yet
[15:59] <Richard> hey I live up the road from Bag End ...Truely
[15:59] <Zetapal> oh yes Hanakin - they are good too - the chilli is excellent, and the green pepper steak is excellent too, the turkey tastes like cardboard though
[15:59] <Manakin> where can I buy them?
[15:59] <West_coast> QV: Have a good time
[16:00] <Manakin> camping stores?
[16:00] <Richard> see you later Queen and thank you for the welcome
[16:00] <Zetapal> Hanakin have you tried a websearch?
[16:00] <Zetapal> use www.dogpile.com
[16:00] <Manakin> for heatermeals? yes
[16:00] <Manakin> but I can't buy stuff online
[16:01] <Zetapal> well, they stock them in truckstops
[16:01] <Manakin> my name M anakin
[16:01] <Zetapal> but the retail is high
[16:01] <West_coast> C U later
[16:01] <Zetapal> best to buy direct from the factory
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[16:02] <Richard> yes I'd better go as well and get some other things done.
[16:02] <Richard> Nice meeting you. Until the next time.
[16:02] <Zetapal> oh sorry
[16:03] <Zetapal> you too richard take care
[16:03] <Manakin> bye Richard
[16:03] <Richard> bye
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[16:04] <Manakin> so has anyone here actually seen Planet X with their own eyes?
[16:05] <sheila> no, have u?
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[16:10] <Manakin> not yet
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[16:10] <Manakin> I found a good website for packaged emergency supplies and foods
[16:11] <Manakin> it is readyfoods.net
[16:11] <Manakin> they have a massive catalog
[16:13] <Manakin> well...I'm outta here.  c u all later
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[16:13] <Lightspeed> It's late. I need to sleep. Good Night.
[16:13] <Lightspeed> Bye.
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[16:14] <sheila> bye
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[16:25] <Zetapal> Hi Mad :)
[16:25] <Mad_Hatter> Hello
[16:25] <Zetapal> you dial-up dinasaur you
[16:26] <Zetapal> :)
[16:26] <Mad_Hatter> How can you tell I'm a dial up?
[16:26] <Zetapal> because yesterday i sent you files over your slow connection - lol
[16:27] <Mad_Hatter> Yea...about 2 hrs at a whopping 44k baud rate!
[16:28] <Zetapal> did you listen to it yet?
[16:29] <Mad_Hatter> all of it...very interesting...she also predicts 2003 is it...
[16:29] <Zetapal> yep
[16:30] <Zetapal> a change for her - last time she was sayin 2012
[16:32] <Mad_Hatter> Sitchin also says 2012...problem is nobody knows what year it "really" is.... evidently it is 2012 now... Mayan to Gregorian calendar all !%#! up!
[16:33] <Mad_Hatter> Only the Zeta's know for sure...
[16:34] <Zetapal> yep
[16:38] <Mad_Hatter> New comet on its way here soon...   http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/12/1219_021219_comet.html
[16:39] <Zetapal> yeah saw that
[16:40] <Mad_Hatter> Is Queen off walkin the dog?
[16:40] <Zetapal> yeah
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[16:41] <Mad_Hatter> Think her dog is really a Zeta in disguise!
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[16:56] <butch> i'm baaacckkk...lol
[16:56] <butch> hello everyone
[16:57] <butch> anyone awake?
[16:59] <Zetapal> hey butch
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[17:05] <Ogmios> hi
[17:05] <Zetapal> Hi OG
[17:05] <Ogmios> hi Zetapal
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[17:21] <Zetapal> I'm listening to the Ed Dames on Art from friday - He is talkin all around cataclysm next year, middle of year
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[17:21] <pete> hello qv
[17:21] <pete> anyone??
[17:22] <pete> hello hello
[17:23] <Zetapal> Hi pete
[17:24] <pete> hi zetapal!! whats the latest ive been at sea for 3 weeks !
[17:25] <Zetapal> wow pete you don't ask for much do ya :)
[17:26] <pete> no not much but with limited time i realed at the 700 emails i need to brouse through
[17:26] <pete> im sure u can keep it short
[17:27] <pete> i hear that evidence has come to light re doubting zetas word/
[17:28] <pete> still cant believe the word has been keep so well, ie out of the public media
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[17:31] <pete> back again
[17:32] <pete> hello
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[17:33] <Zetapal> ok ukuz - see a pop-up?
[17:33] <ukuz_zzz> negative
[17:33] <Zetapal> hm - you running mirc?
[17:34] <ukuz_zzz> roger that
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[17:35] <Zetapal> ok go into options-dcc-folders and under "on send request" select "show get dialog" and where it says "turn ignore back on in XX minutes" uncheck that....
[17:35] <Zetapal> then...
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[17:36] <Zetapal> wait I got that not so right...
[17:36] <ukuz_zzz> ok
[17:36] <dude420> hello
[17:37] <Zetapal> ok under options-dcc-folders under "dcc ignore" select "disable" and uncheck "turn ignore on after xx minutes"
[17:37] <Zetapal> then...
[17:38] <Zetapal> under options-dcc  "on send request" select "show get dialog"
[17:40] <Zetapal> then finally under optons-dcc-server  check "enable dcc server" port 59 and "listen for" chat(check) send(check)
[17:41] <Zetapal> that should do it - let me know when your there
[17:41] <ukuz_zzz> im there
[17:42] <ukuz_zzz> that was a quite an engineering change
[17:42] <ukuz_zzz> :)
[17:42] <Zetapal> ok lets try - you should see a pop up somewhere, either on your desktop or in your main irc window...
[17:43] <Zetapal> great - good job - you did it...
[17:43] <ukuz_zzz> :)
[17:43] <Zetapal> file should be deposited in you download folder in Mirc main directory - unless you've selected somewhere else in your options menu
[17:44] <ukuz_zzz> ok
[17:44] <ukuz_zzz> i see that this is the whole shabang this time...
[17:45] <ukuz_zzz> not in parts...
[17:45] <Zetapal> you other guys do the same thing to your Mirc client if you ever want to recieve DCC files - default is off
[17:46] <ukuz_zzz> oopps, cancelled the second oneone by mistake
[17:47] <ukuz_zzz> ZP, do that second part again
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[17:49] <Zetapal> sorry lost connect - lets resume
[17:49] <ukuz_zzz> ok
[17:49] <ukuz_zzz> :)
[17:50] <Zetapal> notice it picks up where we left off - cool
[17:51] <ukuz_zzz> cool
[17:52] <Zetapal> you other guys should change you Mirc client to the same options above if you ever want to recieve DCC files as the default setting is OFF - don't wait for someone to walk you through it :)
[17:52] <Zetapal> I don't mind doin it but its a pain in the butt :)
[17:53] <Zetapal> in fact I'll make a script for it
[17:53] <Zetapal> brb
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[17:59] <Zetapal> ukuz - you will have to skip through the first hour to get to Ed Dames interview
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[18:00] <Kain> Hello room!
[18:01] <Zetapal> ukuz - I also have the Thursday night interview with Art Bell, if you want that, its very good, commercial free too that one
[18:01] <Zetapal> Hi kain
[18:01] <Zetapal> oops - Sylvia Brown on that thursday interview
[18:02] <ukuz_zzz> thanks but i heard that one over the radio  :)
[18:02] <Zetapal> ok
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[18:05] <Zetapal> anybody else want Ed Dames, Sylvia Brown, or Malachi Martin on Art Bell ?
[18:06] <Mad_Hatter> Zetapal: please send me URL for Ed Dames interview.. Thx
[18:06] <Zetapal> lol
[18:06] <Zetapal> ok mad - 1 file 30 megs
[18:06] <Mad_Hatter> No way!!
[18:06] <froggy> hi, how do you get the Sylvia Brown show?
[18:07] <Zetapal> well I have my ways
[18:07] <Zetapal> actually from usenet group  alt.binaries.sounds.radio.misc
[18:07] <Mad_Hatter> I there a URL I can load from versus DCC
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[18:08] <Zetapal> actually mad - you can listen to it stream from the Art Bell website - ask Queen to give you her key when she comes back - should be in a couple minutes
[18:08] <Mad_Hatter> I thought I could find it on Art Bell...but not there
[18:09] <Zetapal> lemmie check
[18:09] <Mad_Hatter> Ok.... I off for a smoke....
[18:10] <Zetapal> http://www.premiereinteractive.com/artbell/listen.php
[18:10] <Zetapal> there it is - listed as friday dec20th show
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[18:16] <dude420> Zetapal can i ask you questions about the planet ?
[18:16] <Zetapal> sure
[18:17] <dude420> ok why is the sky allways red now ?
[18:18] <Zetapal> our sky?
[18:19] <dude420> yes
[18:19] <Zetapal> nancy has said in previous zetatalk chat sessions that the red sky and halo effect around the moon, though slight, is due to increased smoke and ash in our atmosphere
[18:20] <dude420> what is the halo ?
[18:20] <Zetapal> what is it?
[18:21] <Zetapal> some people say that when they look at the moon these days that there appears to be a halo or ring effect around it
[18:21] <dude420> yes
[18:21] <dude420> a big one
[18:21] <dude420> is the sky red for you ?
[18:22] <Zetapal> well I haven't noticed myself, but I haven't been looking for it and I live in a city area where consisted viewing of sunsets and sunrises is not possible
[18:23] <dude420> oh
[18:24] <Zetapal> I have noticed the moon thing though
[18:24] <walt> Halos around the moon are caused by moisture
[18:25] <Zetapal> well there ya go
[18:26] <walt> the higher the moisture content the tighter the ring
[18:28] <dude420> well
[18:29] <dude420> i see huge holos
[18:32] <walt> and?
[18:35] <walt> usually the reddish/gray rings are caused by smoke/pollution
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[18:37] <butch> anyone awake?
[18:39] <dude420> yes
[18:40] <butch> hi dude420...how's it going?
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[19:02] <Tenshu> zp you have #3? hehe
[19:02] <Tenshu> :)
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[19:04] <Tenshu> zetapal
[19:04] <Tenshu> you around ??
[19:05] <Zetapal> yo
[19:05] <Zetapal> yeah standby
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[19:06] <Tenshu> sweet
[19:06] <Tenshu> ty :)
[19:06] <Zetapal> lol sure
[19:06] <Tenshu> owen sux man
[19:06] <Tenshu> =\
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[19:07] <Zetapal> yeah stay tuned, he gets what he's got comin
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[19:08] <jed> www.homestead.org/ferro.htm  link to a little downhome article on do-it-yourself ferro-cement
[19:09] <Tenshu> good
[19:09] <Tenshu> i don't like him
[19:09] <Tenshu> ehe
[19:09] <Tenshu> he's all decieving and untrustful and not a cool guy in my opinion!
[19:09] <jed> who?
[19:10] <Tenshu> this guy on taken
[19:10] <jed> oh
[19:10] <Zetapal> :}
[19:10] <Tenshu> owen crawford methix
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[19:11] <jed> ZP, i did connect with earthchanges site
[19:11] <jed> there was a link there to the text of Timeaus (spelling?)
[19:13] <jed> which recounted the ancient priest of Egypt telling the greek visitor about how periodic  catastrophes had periodically wiped most people off the planet.  sometimes, floods, taking out the lowlanders, sometimes fire in the sky , taking out the highlanders.
[19:13] <Zetapal> hm interesting
[19:14] <Zetapal> ley me get you that link I wanted you to see last night, now that you're a member...
[19:14] <jed> with the zetas talking about petrol fires in the sky and oceans  sloshing back and forth,  sounds like an argument for looking for middle ground.
[19:14] <jed> yes, would like to see that link
[19:15] <Zetapal> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Earthchanges_discussion_prep_planetx/message/3141
[19:16] <Zetapal> you know to get there easy you can right click on above and select "open in new browser"
[19:16] <Zetapal> provided you have the option enabled in Mirc options
[19:17] <jed> thanks for the link, i'll see what happens
[19:17] <Zetapal> ok
[19:20] <jed> ok, it stated what i suspected. very strong in the corners.  otherwise, plan on mucho reinforcing for subground placement
[19:20] <jed> good way to provide quick secure storage
[19:22] <jed> i have been building decks last few years with 6"x6" hemlock rough beams and braces with lag bolts
[19:22] <Zetapal> right
[19:22] <jed> i will probably use said beam system to extend the shelter of my root cellar outward towards the edge of the hillside
[19:23] <Tenshu> whoa
[19:23] <Tenshu> zetapal
[19:23] <Tenshu> what happening?
[19:23] <jed> using plywood as you were saying the other day, but puting the upright beams every 4' if not closer
[19:23] <Tenshu> eep.. it cut off
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[19:25] <Tenshu> =P
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[19:30] <Tenshu> lol
[19:30] <Tenshu> what's goin on?
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[19:56] <Mad_Hatter> Good night all...
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[20:24] <PilsDB> good day all
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[20:39] <Nightbird> Hi Lancer
[20:40] <Lancer> howdy Nightbird :)
[20:40] <Nightbird> How are you tonight/today?
[20:40] <Lancer> quiet evening.... things should start heating up when more reality is achieved with what we're facing
[20:41] <Lancer> doing great... and you?
[20:41] <Nightbird> Ok. won a hundred bucks earlier playing bingo... life is good
[20:42] <Lancer> hey... kewl :))
[20:42] <Lancer> under the B - 12
[20:42] <Lancer> bingo
[20:42] <Lancer> or.... perhaps.... under the O - 666?
[20:43] <Nightbird> LOL.. 12 is the epitome of wisdom.. actually
[20:43] <Nightbird> 666=18 in Numerology.. which is a very spiritual number.. in Tarot this would be The Moon
[20:44] <Lancer> ah... you sound assertive on these points... tip of my hat to your expertise
[20:44] <Nightbird> I am a Numerologist
[20:44] <Nightbird> for the last 22 years
[20:45] <Nightbird> but I still learn...
[20:45] <Lancer> very useful technology... no doubt....
[20:45] <Nightbird> not technology.. but spiritual information
[20:46] <Nightbird> such as what your soul chose to learn, do etc and have done in past lives
[20:46] <Lancer> well ok... what I meant by 'technology' really is that you can apply the data
[20:46] <Nightbird> anything that helps you to know yourself is interesting to me
[20:46] <Nightbird> thats true
[20:47] <Nightbird> when I think of technology I think of computers, lasers and so forth
[20:47] <Lancer> I have an engineering degree/background.... so I'm sprung towards data/knowledge that can be beneficially used
[20:47] <Nightbird> That is great.. very useful
[20:48] <Nightbird> I am a trucker by occupation
[20:48] <Lancer> if you can't use it, the engineer saves it for a lazy day of pondering
[20:48] <Nightbird> but will be going to nursing school if Planet X doesn't ruin it for me
[20:49] <Nightbird> I am not very mechanical.. engineering would be wasted on me
[20:49] <Lancer> trucker 'eh.... I would love to have done that some..... I drive everywhere, cross-country all the time, just love the open road... nothing like the calming effect of a mountain range on the horizon
[20:50] <Nightbird> yes, this is a beautful country.. I drive at night (hence my handle of Nightbird).. so can't see much of it then
[20:50] <Nightbird> but when I do..
[20:50] <Nightbird> love those autumn leaves, sunsets and mountains
[20:51] <Lancer> I've been an uncommitted fan of Nancy's for several years.... but I'm now trying to make up for lost time.... looking to find a good place to ride out this next spring
[20:51] <Nightbird> I will survive if I am needed... otherwise, I don't care if I go
[20:52] <Lancer> hey... kewl.... I have just that same philosophy about it
[20:52] <Nightbird> My husband does need to survive though.. he will be a great help to the others
[20:52] <Nightbird> he is an organic farmer
[20:52] <Lancer> oh wow, yes indeed, he will be worth his keep for sure
[20:53] <Nightbird> but 25 years is a long time to wait for the "dust to settle"
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[20:53] <Nightbird> we have put up seeds..in case we can use them
[20:53] <Nightbird> Hi Cmell
[20:53] <Lancer> great Nightbird... that's wonderful
[20:53] <cmell> hi
[20:54] <cmell> brb
[20:54] <Nightbird> I also have been canning beef stew to hold us (or him) over till he can start growing
[20:54] <Nightbird> this has alot of vitamins
[20:54] <Nightbird> and I know the meat is good since it is from our own catlle
[20:54] <Nightbird> cattle.. rather
[20:54] <cmell>  /msg nickserv auth May211970
[20:55] <Nightbird> on the negative side though.. we are not far enough out in the sticks
[20:56] <Lancer> well, perhaps you can set up shop in the sticks somewhere, then get there when the time is nigh
[20:56] <Nightbird> I am already set up here though.. its just that people keep moving in around us
[20:56] <Nightbird> we have 30 acres..
[20:57] <Lancer> it is obvious that cities are going to be absolutely awful
[20:57] <Nightbird> around us, but neighbors keep selling land to other people
[20:57] <cmell> brb
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[20:57] <Nightbird> thats true
[20:57] <Lancer> well, I know that scenario... must be frustrating
[20:57] <Nightbird> might be why our area is filling up so fast
[20:58] <Nightbird> I am not worried about the old folks.. its the children we need to try to save
[20:58] <Nightbird> unforunately.. I live in texas... I may be going for a long swim..
[20:58] <Lancer> I'm in a house in Seattle now, but have an 80 acre homestead place out in the rural farm area that I might go to say in about March for a couple month vacation
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[20:58] <Nightbird> I ahve read there is good land near Spokan
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[20:59] <Nightbird> Spokane, rather.. volcanic ash from St Helens
[20:59] <cmell> back
[20:59] <Nightbird> WB Cmell
[20:59] <cmell> thx
[20:59] <Lancer> yes, Spokane might work just fine.... provided you don't get flooded by Lake Cour-d-lene
[21:00] <cmell> whats going on ?
[21:00] <Nightbird> I think I read that fdrom Sun Bear"s book
[21:00] <Nightbird> we were just talking about our plans for PX
[21:01] <Nightbird> Black Dawn, Bright Day.. maybe
[21:01] <cmell> ok
[21:01] <cmell> are you stocked up ?
[21:02] <Nightbird> I ahve spent years researching PX.. but hadn't a clue when it would happen
[21:02] <Nightbird> yes.. I ahve alot of food stored
[21:02] <cmell> hhmm
[21:02] <Nightbird> and seeds
[21:02] <Nightbird> and hand tools
[21:02] <Lancer> bbi5... quick errand
[21:03] <cmell> you have one of those no battery flashlights ??
[21:03] <Nightbird> but I don't care if I make it.. it is for my husband to make it... he has the ability to teach others to grow food, survive etc
[21:03] <cmell> ok
[21:03] <Nightbird> yes.. wind up... I saw where they have a new one out where you just shake it
[21:03] <cmell> nice
[21:04] <Nightbird> and the bulbs never go bad. says it is LED and can see up to a mile with it
[21:04] <Nightbird> want the URL to it?
[21:04] <cmell> and it lights up for about 5 minutes
[21:04] <cmell> :)
[21:04] <Nightbird> yes.. you must have seen it then
[21:04] <cmell> I like that
[21:05] <Nightbird> thats what I get for being a wiseapple
[21:05] <Nightbird> LOL
[21:05] <cmell> hehe
[21:05] <cmell> Light Emitting Diode
[21:06] <cmell> LED
[21:06] <Nightbird> I also have a wind up radio.. a solar radio.. and solar battery recharger.. too bad the sun won't be bright enough for any of it...LOL
[21:06] <cmell> lets hope you'll catch some anyway
[21:07] <Nightbird> yes I hope so.. but not really concerned about flashlights... can't eat that
[21:07] <cmell> but I'll put my money on that diode :)
[21:07] <Nightbird> I have been thinking about getting one of those
[21:08] <Nightbird> the one I have is just a wind up one from CCrane
[21:08] <Lancer> back
[21:08] <Nightbird> hate to spend 40 bucks for it
[21:08] <Nightbird> WB Lancer
[21:08] <cmell> guard it with your life :)
[21:08] <Lancer> :)
[21:08] <cmell> I found one that cost 20 bucks
[21:08] <Nightbird> Lancer we were discussing that new flashlight they have come up with
[21:08] <Lancer> say, I'm sure you have thought of this Nightbird, but how are you going to protect those jars of stew from the big quakes?
[21:09] <Nightbird> really?? where
[21:09] <cmell> just a sec
[21:09] <Nightbird> I am in an area where there are no known faults.. but they are on the floor in the cellar
[21:09] <Nightbird> storm cellar
[21:09] <Nightbird> I also ahve alot of water stored
[21:10] <Lancer> I have the cc radio w/light, has wind up crank, but am considering getting some solar cell power device
[21:10] <Nightbird> in 55 gal drums or barrels
[21:10] <Nightbird> This one doesn't use solar.. Lancer
[21:10] <Lancer> hmmmm... you might want to wrap those jars in newpaper or some such
[21:10] <Nightbird> you just shake it
[21:10] <Nightbird> the are in a cardboard boxes
[21:10] <Nightbird> and the bulb never burns out.. LED
[21:11] <Nightbird> want to see it?? I ahve the URL
[21:11] <Lancer> ah... that LED sounds great... would that be at cc too?
[21:11] <Nightbird> just trying to decide to spend the 40 bucks for it
[21:11] <Lancer> ah sure.... would love that url
[21:11] <Nightbird> I don't know.. this is at excaliber.. Cmell said he knows of one for 20 bucks
[21:11] <Nightbird> just a sec
[21:12] <Nightbird> http://www.excaliburelectronics.com/foreverflashl.html
[21:12] <Nightbird> I had it bookmarked
[21:12] <cmell> http://www.wisementrading.com/flashlights/nightstar.htm
[21:12] <Nightbird> cause still considering it
[21:12] <Nightbird> Ok.. thank you, Cmell
[21:13] <cmell> but still 40$
[21:13] <Nightbird> how can you copy in mric
[21:13] <Nightbird> Ok.. well I already have one for that price..
[21:13] <Nightbird> mirc.. rather
[21:13] <cmell> just mark it then it's copyed
[21:14] <Nightbird> Ok.. great.. I was trying to do it with right click
[21:14] <Lancer> looks interesting Nightbird, I think I'll get one of those flashlights
[21:15] <Nightbird> Cmell, I put the URL for Lancer.. you can see it above
[21:15] <cmell> http://www.foreverflashlights.com/
[21:16] <Nightbird> I ahve so many flashlights... but this one is waterproof etc.. hard not to want to try it
[21:16] <cmell> thx
[21:16] <cmell> there is one chinese on costing only half that
[21:16] <cmell> on=one
[21:17] <Nightbird> This one is only 29 bucks.. Cmell
[21:17] <cmell> ok
[21:17] <Nightbird> that is a better price and have different styles
[21:18] <cmell> but you can get one for 19
[21:18] <Nightbird> they say it is on backorder to early 2003 though
[21:18] <cmell> yes the chinese one is on backorder too
[21:19] <Nightbird> sounds like alot of people are preparing
[21:19] <cmell> I want one though
[21:19] <Nightbird> thats good
[21:19] <Nightbird> me too..
[21:19] <cmell> yes
[21:20] <cmell> you can make one easily, but I want one with the casing
[21:20] <Nightbird> I wish I could get people around here to prepare
[21:20] <Nightbird> make one?
[21:20] <cmell> yes, it's not that difficult
[21:20] <Nightbird> they think I am a "doom and gloom" nut when I speak of it
[21:21] <Lancer> Nightbird, re people preparing: when, if at all, is it estimated that the masses will start getting antsy or downright panicky?
[21:21] <cmell> heh
[21:21] <Nightbird> I don't know, Lancer.. I would think when they see the "red star"
[21:21] <cmell> yes
[21:22] <Nightbird> then they will probably think Jesus is coming for them
[21:22] <Nightbird> instead of PX
[21:22] <Lancer> yes, certainly by then; I was aghast the other day when the network news announced the discovery of a new comet, I went "ah sh_t!"
[21:22] <Nightbird> I think people seem to be waiting for something... like they realze something is up.. but not sure what it is
[21:23] <Lancer> the Iraq war seems to give many a nice diversion
[21:23] <Nightbird> They keep having Ancient Prophecies on the History channel
[21:23] <cmell> I'm very keen on getting this flashlight, because it might just be my single source of light :(
[21:23] <Nightbird> yes.. I have a wind up one.. but bulbs break
[21:23] <cmell> yes
[21:24] <Nightbird> I did find a cheap source of power though.. as long as the gas holds out
[21:24] <cmell> what ?
[21:25] <Nightbird> There is an ATV that has a cigarette lighter plug on the side of it
[21:25] <Nightbird> and would not use much gas to power up the plug
[21:25] <cmell> ATV ?
[21:25] <Nightbird> for cooking and such with 12 volt
[21:25] <Nightbird> yes
[21:25] <Nightbird> all terrain vehicle
[21:25] <cmell> ah
[21:26] <Nightbird> four-wheeeler
[21:26] <Nightbird> they sell many stoves at truck stops
[21:26] <Nightbird> that use 12 volts
[21:26] <Nightbird> even microwaves
[21:27] <cmell> I think that one should have a wrench kit, so that one can pillage abbandoned vehicles
[21:27] <Nightbird> I ahve a propane refridgerator.. but can't plan on having propane with the earth crcking
[21:27] <Nightbird> for batteries?
[21:27] <cmell> yes and generators and such
[21:27] <Lancer> yes, I've seen those, but I'm still edgy, as 12-v can be so darn temperary
[21:28] <Nightbird> also Nancy/Zetas say it isn't smart to have the tanks around then
[21:28] <Lancer> temporary too
[21:28] <cmell> yes
[21:28] <cmell> all is temporary
[21:28] <Nightbird> thats true.. but we have a thing my husband has been using for years in the truck that is 12 volt
[21:28] <cmell> so gather things
[21:28] <Nightbird> its called a "snappy"
[21:29] <cmell> hee
[21:29] <Nightbird> it is like a leather breifcase with a heating pad in it to heat food in the can
[21:29] <cmell> nice
[21:29] <Nightbird> I ahve a lot of canned food stored
[21:29] <Nightbird> 12 barrels full of canned food
[21:30] <Nightbird> meat, veggies.. fruit
[21:30] * Lancer pines futuristically over his need for a good hot cup of coffee in the morning
[21:30] <cmell> then that "snappy " will come in handy
[21:30] <Nightbird> I don't drink coffee
[21:30] <Nightbird> yes.. and they also have a lunch box looking thing that gets up to 300 degrees
[21:30] <Lancer> you're lucky, Nightbird
[21:31] <cmell> thats why I said take generators from cars
[21:31] <Nightbird> lucky?
[21:31] <Lancer> my withdrawal from coffee might be worse than the darn poleshift
[21:31] <cmell> haha
[21:31] <Nightbird> LOL.. I'm a smoker.. I guess I quit then
[21:31] <cmell> lol
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[21:32] <LeXar> Godd evening...
[21:32] <Lancer> yes, I smoke too, so coffee and smokes will be a double wammy
[21:32] <cmell> hello lexar
[21:32] <Nightbird> Hi Lex..
[21:32] <Lancer> howdy LeXar
[21:32] <Nightbird> Thats tough, Lancer
[21:32] <cmell> :)
[21:32] <LeXar> how goes the conversations
[21:32] <Nightbird> although I am addicted to caffiene.. just not through coffee
[21:32] <Nightbird> doing well..
[21:32] <Lancer> just buzzing like magpies on a fence line, LeXar
[21:32] <cmell> http://www.foreverflashlights.com/
[21:33] <cmell> lexar
[21:33] <Nightbird> this flashlight doesn't need a power source and