Session Start: Mon Dec 23 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:01] <islander> g'night all, catch you later
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[00:33] <theodosia> is this 12th planet anywhere to be viewed by hubble or other
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[01:40] <cmell> o<|:)
[01:40] <cmell> later
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[02:33] <inside-revolution> hello
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[04:36] <Magnetos> Hello room.
[04:36] <Magnetos> ??
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[06:04] <STOaway> #buzz
[06:08] <STOaway> I am leaving to get more instrustion info.
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[06:23] <zod> m
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[07:29] <cmell> hi
[07:29] <froggy> hi
[07:30] <cmell> and my voice echoes in the empty halls :(
[07:30] <cmell> hehe
[07:31] <froggy> i'm drinking coffee and holding my bird....
[07:31] <cmell> yea you can call THAT a bird haha
[07:31] <cmell> sorry
[07:31] <froggy> it's not like it sounds
[07:31] <froggy> lol
[07:32] <froggy> african grey
[07:32] <cmell> ok, coffee conaissour
[07:32] <cmell> wrong spelling I know :(
[07:32] <froggy> it's ok
[07:33] <froggy> anything going on?
[07:33] <cmell> not really
[07:34] <cmell> it might pick up if we keep talking
[07:34] <cmell> hehe
[07:34] <froggy> yeah
[07:34] <cmell> have you read anything new today ?
[07:35] <froggy> no, nothing
[07:35] <cmell> me neither :(
[07:35] <cmell> dammit
[07:35] <froggy> ribbit
[07:35] <cmell> and that should come from you .... haha
[07:36] <froggy> did you hear Sylvia Brown
[07:36] <froggy> mis spell
[07:36] <cmell> no
[07:37] <froggy> i wanted to hear her, but i can't get in
[07:37] <cmell> she have something interesting to say
[07:37] <cmell> where ? art bell ?
[07:37] <froggy> monk seems to think so
[07:37] <cmell> ok
[07:37] <froggy> yes, art bell
[07:38] <cmell> hhmmm I may be able to get that show on mp3
[07:38] <froggy> great
[07:38] <cmell> just a sec
[07:38] <cmell> was it yesterday
[07:38] <cmell> ?
[07:39] <froggy> no, it was i think thursday...hold on
[07:41] <froggy> 12/19/02
[07:41] <cmell> ok thx
[07:42] <cmell> brb
[07:46] <cmell> back put the show on the download list
[07:47] <froggy> where is the download list?
[07:47] <cmell> usenet
[07:48] <froggy> where is that?
[07:48] <froggy> i am so stupid
[07:48] <froggy> lol
[07:48] <cmell> don't worry I'll download it in a few hours
[07:48] <cmell> :)
[07:48] <froggy> :)
[07:49] <froggy> your the greatest
[07:49] <froggy> :)
[07:49] <cmell> I put top priority on the downloads
[07:49] <cmell> hehe thx
[07:50] <froggy> it looks like everybody is working today....Monday
[07:50] <cmell> hhmmm yes
[07:51] <froggy> i am always off when everybody works
[07:51] <froggy> and i'm always working when everybody is off
[07:51] <cmell> thats bad, nobody to talk to
[07:51] <cmell> :(
[07:51] <froggy> i miss every irc
[07:52] <cmell> so you sit alone and read the logs by yourself alone huh ?
[07:52] <froggy> yes
[07:52] <cmell> must be lonely :)
[07:52] <froggy> no, peaceful
[07:53] <cmell> sorry
[07:53] <froggy> don't be
[07:53] <cmell> k
[07:53] <cmell> but you whish you could be there and participate
[07:53] <froggy> when i work i can't wait to get away from noise
[07:53] <cmell> wrong spelling I guess
[07:54] <cmell> nah
[07:54] <froggy> no, i would probably say something i would regret latter
[07:55] <cmell> heh
[07:55] <cmell> you work in a noisy environment ?
[07:55] <froggy> but, i enjoy reading
[07:55] <froggy> yes
[07:55] <cmell> hhmm
[07:55] <cmell> yes reading is allways god
[07:55] <cmell> good
[07:56] <froggy> lots of people all day long....talking
[07:56] <froggy> kind of like this
[07:56] <cmell> damn, stupid ppl ?
[07:56] <cmell> heh
[07:57] <froggy> no, i like most of them
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[07:57] <cmell> oh ok
[07:57] <cmell> hey loitus
[07:58] <loitus> hey
[07:58] <froggy> hi loitus
[07:58] <froggy> :)
[07:59] <froggy> what's up?
[07:59] <cmell> whats going on loitus
[07:59] <cmell> ?
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[07:59] <cmell> hello fire
[07:59] <froggy> hi fire
[07:59] <loitus> Not much..
[07:59] <fire> hiiiii
[08:00] <fire> =)
[08:00] <fire> friendss
[08:00] <cmell> not much here either loitus :(
[08:00] <cmell> hi
[08:00] <cmell> where are you from fire
[08:00] <cmell> ?
[08:00] <loitus> I sadly do  need to go though, for as soon a QueenVee sees I'm here, I'll be vapor
[08:00] <loitus> ;)
[08:00] <fire> Brazil
[08:00] <froggy> lol
[08:00] <cmell> hah
[08:01] <loitus> cya
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[08:01] <cmell> nice where in brazil
[08:01] <cmell> Rio ?
[08:01] <froggy> must be nice
[08:01] <cmell> wrong spelling
[08:02] <fire> cmell not, Parana
[08:02] <fire> Cascavel - Parana -  Brazil
[08:03] <cmell> just a sec I'll look it up :)
[08:03] <fire> =)
[08:04] <cmell> is : http://www.cascavel.com.br/principal.html
[08:04] <cmell> a good place to start ?
[08:04] <fire> isso
[08:04] <fire> correct
[08:04] <fire> =)
[08:05] <cmell> :)
[08:05] <fire> my city
[08:05] <fire> hehe
[08:05] <cmell> good
[08:05] <cmell> :)
[08:06] <froggy> :)
[08:06] <cmell> hey look fotos of your home :)
[08:06] <cmell> http://www.cascavel.com.br/cultura/fotos/index2.html
[08:07] <cmell> hehe
[08:07] <froggy> funny
[08:08] <cmell> so fire, what do you do for a living ?
[08:10] <fire> I am I photograph, those photos of rattlesnake had been I and my
[08:10] <fire> father who it we photograph
[08:10] <fire> =)
[08:11] <cmell> which photo ?
[08:11] <cmell> s
[08:11] <fire> http://www.cascavel.com.br/cultura/fotos/index2.html
[08:11] <fire> essas
[08:11] <cmell> ok
[08:12] <cmell> just a sec
[08:12] <cmell> were you the one that took those photos ??
[08:14] <fire> my father
[08:14] <cmell> ok :)
[08:15] <cmell> but just as long as you keep it in the family :)
[08:16] <fire> in google searches "Sergio Sanderson"
[08:16] <fire> =)
[08:17] <cmell> http://www.f3sudamweb.com/espanol/historial/1999/posadas/imagenes/posadas99-2-imagenes.htm ?
[08:18] <fire> yes
[08:18] <fire> http://cnews.2x.com.br
[08:18] <cmell> heh looking into it :)
[08:18] <fire> eu!
[08:18] <fire> I
[08:19] <fire> www.sanderson.com.br
[08:19] <fire> my site
[08:19] <cmell> ok
[08:20] <cmell> nice
[08:20] <fire> =)
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[08:20] <cmell> wellcomr johnny
[08:20] <froggy> hi johnny
[08:20] <johnny> hi
[08:20] <cmell> r=e
[08:22] <cmell> nice site
[08:23] <fire> =)
[08:23] <johnny> Question to all- What ever happened to nancy prediction on hale bop. she said is was not real. I was not following zt then. The debunkers use this argument to claim that zt is nonsensense. What is the truth behind nancys staement on this matter
[08:23] <cmell> you are into racing huh o<|:)
[08:24] <cmell> huh ?
[08:24] <cmell> I don't know about that ?
[08:25] <froggy> i don't know what to think about that....i just sit and watch
[08:25] <froggy> i did read about that a long time ago and i asked somebody about it
[08:25] <cmell> so johnny we are not in a position to answer
[08:26] <froggy> the person i asked, said Nancy was wrong
[08:26] <johnny> Thanks maybe quenn will know. this is really bothering me
[08:27] <cmell> ok
[08:32] <johnny> has anyone noticed the increase in x debunker sites they are popping up daily. Why take the effort to discredit nancy if she is just another nut on the net. The effort to discredit her is massive.
[08:33] <cmell> no, but then again I don't care to look
[08:33] <froggy> i have a question...Why is there NASA television?
[08:34] <froggy> when they hardly show anything
[08:34] <cmell> I don't know
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[08:34] <cmell> they say we show the TRUTH
[08:35] <froggy> hi QueenVee...:) :) :) :) :)
[08:35] <cmell> hi QV
[08:35] <johnny> hiqv
[08:35] <QueenVee> hello hello
[08:35] <QueenVee> hello johnny -- have you been here before?
[08:36] <johnny> sure
[08:36] <QueenVee> remind me where you're from
[08:36] <johnny> NY
[08:37] <QueenVee> fire: i've not seen you here before.... where are you from?
[08:37] <cmell> hmm you have any relatives that know of  WTC collapse ?
[08:38] <cmell> hes from brazil QV
[08:38] <fire> uu
[08:38] * fire is now known as Alex
[08:38] <Alex> sou eu
[08:38] <Alex> =)
[08:38] <Alex> brazil...
[08:38] <Alex> =)
[08:38] <johnny> cmell, i lost some friends there
[08:38] <QueenVee> oh, hi, Alex. stick to one name -- OK?
[08:38] <Alex> ok
[08:38] <Alex> :)
[08:39] <cmell> oh sorry johnny, was I touching a soft spot ? :(
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[08:39] <QueenVee> i think 9/11 is a sensitive subject for all New Yorkers
[08:39] <cmell> yes sorry for bringing it up :(
[08:39] <QueenVee> i'm sorry of your loss, Johnny
[08:39] <johnny> Its ok
[08:40] <johnny> thank you
[08:41] <cmell> me too, it was insensitive of me
[08:42] <johnny> QV- I asked an earlier Q regarding Hale bop Thw Q was What was the truth regaring nancts prediction that says hale bop was not real. The debunkers, which iam not, use this to discredit ZT
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[10:42] <froggy> i was busy doing my part hah
[10:42] <QueenVee> hi raincity
[10:43] <froggy> philadephia is kind of far for me
[10:43] <QueenVee> how many hours by bus?
[10:43] <froggy> 1&1/2
[10:43] <froggy> or less
[10:44] <QueenVee> i take a trip to toronto once a week that takes just a little over 2 hrs each way
[10:44] <QueenVee> same day turnaround
[10:44] <froggy> do you have a family to take care of
[10:44] <QueenVee> yes, i have an ill mother to look after, animals...
[10:45] <froggy> ok
[10:45] <QueenVee> it definitely requires coordination, but if you care enough about an issue, you can set aside one day to take part in an anti-war protest in philadelphia
[10:46] <QueenVee> Here's the contact info for the Philadelphia branch of NOT IN OUR NAME:
[10:46] <QueenVee> Pennsylvania - Philadelphia
[10:46] <QueenVee> Email: PhillyRNR@hotmail.com (Refuse & Resist!)
[10:46] <QueenVee> Phone: 215-552-8548
[10:48] <froggy> thank you QV, i got the #
[10:48] <QueenVee> :-)
[10:48] <froggy> maybe i will get there... i will try
[10:48] <froggy> honestly
[10:48] <QueenVee> :-)
[10:49] <froggy> i am so against the war and i don't want america to look and act like bullys
[10:49] <froggy> i am american and i am not a bully
[10:50] <Michaellss> If you join things like this(NION)doesnt it make it easy for goverment to grab a list of ppl that will cause problems when they start making there moves before poleshift?
[10:50] <froggy> or blood thirsty
[10:50] <QueenVee> that's right Michaells -- just keep looking after your own ass above all
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[10:50] <Michaellss> oh my
[10:50] <QueenVee> hi zetapal
[10:51] <froggy> i don't want to endanger my family...they come first
[10:51] <QueenVee> so don't give anyone your name.... geesh
[10:51] <froggy> okkkkkkkkkk
[10:51] <QueenVee> like i said, if you're looking for an excuse, you'll find one
[10:51] <Michaellss> where in that did I say me or I?
[10:51] <QueenVee> give me a break, Michael
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[10:52] <QueenVee> activism does involve a certain amount of risk, discomfort, and inconvenience
[10:52] <QueenVee> that is a fact
[10:52] <QueenVee> otherwise it wouldn't be ACTivisim
[10:52] <Michaellss> why are you treating me like this?what did I do wrong tell me i want to do right
[10:52] <QueenVee> it would be SITONYOURASSivism
[10:52] <froggy> QV, i just called that # and it had a recording leave your name and number...i hung up
[10:53] <QueenVee> froggy: theres.... an.... email.... address....
[10:53] <QueenVee> get a hotmail account that can't be traced
[10:53] <QueenVee> use a pseudonym
[10:53] <froggy> that's what i have..hotmail
[10:54] <QueenVee> when you go to the rally, wear a disguise
[10:54] <Michaellss> lol
[10:56] <QueenVee> your family will be in worse danger if war continues to escalate.... if your govt continues to provoke terrorist attacks on domestic soil....
[10:56] <QueenVee> people don't realize that they are ALREADY in danger
[10:57] <QueenVee> also, there's a difference between DANGER and HARASSMENT
[10:57] <QueenVee> Harassment is merely annoying and inconvenient
[10:57] <Michaellss> I thought nancy has said theres nothing that can stop them,we must prepare to help family and friends to survive after the shift?
[10:58] <QueenVee> what have i said that contradicts that?
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[10:58] <Michaellss> Nion get involved stuff like that get out there say no in may name,theres nothin we can do I thought?
[10:59] <QueenVee> like i said, there's more to activism than a guaranteed outcome
[10:59] <QueenVee> what if the poleshift doesn't happen?
[10:59] <Michaellss> hhmm
[11:00] <Michaellss> then ill never trust people again(youll love that one go ahaed give it to me)
[11:00] <QueenVee> no, i'm tired. you probably have more excuses than socks
[11:00] <Michaellss> no more socks
[11:00] <QueenVee> (that's one of my grandmother's sayings)
[11:00] <Michaellss> :)
[11:01] <froggy> QV, i sent my e-mail if they get back to me i will be there
[11:01] <QueenVee> (she also used to say "you've got a hook for every eye")
[11:01] <QueenVee> good stuff, froggy
[10:59] <QueenVee> i belong to an organization called Canadian Coalition Against War and Racism....
[11:00] <QueenVee> they hold a weekly rally and demostration in front of the American consulate in Toronto....
[11:00] <QueenVee> i try to participate at least once a month
[11:00] <Michaellss> im not here to get you to dislike me.To let you know the truth I tell everyone about this room i tell thyem theres someone there named QV who is on top of things and the other police in the room are awesome i spread the word hard.then the last 2 times i seem to be thinking of myself more.I confused what should i be doing and ill start now so I can have respect back
[11:01] <QueenVee> don't worry whether other people like you or not
[11:01] <QueenVee> just stand up for what you believe in
[11:01] <Michaellss> nOt possible for me People are in my mind always they are very important to me everyone
[11:02] <Michaellss> I do
[11:02] <QueenVee> but that's not concern about other people, that's concern about yourself
[11:02] <Michaellss> its not STO
[11:02] <Michaellss> its no sts its sto
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[11:02] <Michaellss> for me
[11:02] <QueenVee> STO doesn't mean getting everyone to like you
[11:02] <Michaellss> true
[11:03] <froggy> bye
[11:03] <QueenVee> Nancy is STO (in my opinion) -- does she try to get people to like her? does she care?
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[11:03] <QueenVee> hello Boy
[11:03] <BoY> hell-o
[11:03] <QueenVee> you don't think Mother Theresa pissed off a lot of people in her day?
[11:04] <QueenVee> when faced with a choice between standing up for what's right and having someone dislike her or be hostile towards her, which do you think she chose?
[11:07] <Michaellss> so what will you do if PX doesnt show?
[11:07] <QueenVee> continue to live my live much as i do now
[11:07] <Michaellss> yup
[11:07] <QueenVee> live=life
[11:07] <Michaellss> m2
[11:08] <QueenVee> one's life shouldn't be dependent on events
[11:08] <BoY> i'll go on vacation
[11:08] <BoY> :)
[11:08] <QueenVee> it's how we respond to and adapt to events that's important
[11:08] <QueenVee> but my life will have been enriched by all of this, whether it happens or not
[11:08] <Michaellss> this event if true would be a very good one to mark to prepare for
[11:09] <QueenVee> but you won't know if it is "true" until it happens....
[11:09] <QueenVee> best be prepared
[11:09] <Michaellss> thats the tough part
[11:09] <QueenVee> it's all part of the uncertainty of life
[11:09] <Michaellss> waitin, patience,researching
[11:10] <QueenVee> and preparing
[11:10] <Michaellss> yup
[11:10] <BoY> nancyL statement about earthnquakes at end of session sat was something i agree with her on
[11:10] <QueenVee> what was that, Boy?
[11:10] <QueenVee> in a nutshell?
[11:11] <BoY> she said; <NancyL> I keep thiking that we should have quakes affecting cities soon, braced for that for some time, and tides so high they roll into the city streets.
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[11:11] <BoY> i been bracing myself for that also
[11:11] <QueenVee> Boy: mmmmm, yes, i was a little confused about that.....
[11:11] <QueenVee> hello from _OKC, what brings you to this room?
[11:12] <BoY> before  shift even
[11:12] <from_OKC> this is tex
[11:12] <from_OKC> visiting in OKC... lol
[11:12] <QueenVee>     HIYA TEX!!!!     
[11:12] <QueenVee> how are things with the family?
[11:12] <from_OKC> it's snowing here
[11:12] <Michaellss> here 2
[11:12] <QueenVee> hah, i should have guessed it was you
[11:12] <Michaellss> lightly
[11:12] <QueenVee> here too
[11:12] <from_OKC> things are very good... just made 5lbs of chili
[11:12] <Michaellss> lol
[11:13] <Michaellss> oh my
[11:13] <Michaellss> swounds good
[11:13] <QueenVee> Tex is so domestic -- where were you when i was looking for husband material?
[11:13] <from_OKC> sitting all alone in Texas
[11:13] <QueenVee> Tex: we were just talking about something Nancy said in last ZT session: <NancyL> I keep thiking that we should have quakes affecting cities soon, braced for that for some time, and tides so high they roll into the city streets.
[11:14] <from_OKC> this kind of weather a big pot of chili is good.. you never know who might drop by.. just keep it on the stove
[11:14] <QueenVee> Boy: i don't remember ZT saying anything about stuff like that happening before the shift..... or am i confused?
[11:14] <BoY> no it was nancy saying her thoughts
[11:14] <QueenVee> my mother is making mincemeat tarts
[11:14] <Michaellss> mmmm
[11:14] <QueenVee> Boy: no, i realize that....
[11:15] <BoY> & it's me that suspects possible b4 shift
[11:15] <QueenVee> i meant, is there anything in ZT that echoes those thoughts?
[11:15] <QueenVee> i remember ZT saying that there was more likelihood of "imploding" cities, than cities being devastated by quakes, before the shift
[11:15] <from_OKC> i remember that 2 QV
[11:16] <QueenVee> but things are supposed to start in California before the shift, according to Cayce
[11:17] <from_OKC> What did Nancy say was going to cause the "imploding"
[11:17] <QueenVee> shifting ground
[11:17] <BoY> i was commenting on nancyL  thinking as compared to mine & was surprized that another was thinking what i was
[11:17] <from_OKC> would not the shifting ground be caused by deep quakes
[11:17] <QueenVee> yes, i understand, Boy, i was just going off on a tangent...
[11:17] <BoY> lol
[11:17] <QueenVee> hold on, i'll look it up
[11:18] <BoY> i think it was said water,,soft earth
[11:20] <BoY> nyc is a mountain top
[11:20] <QueenVee> Imploding Cities: http://www.zetatalk.com/Xtime/x13.htm
[11:21] <QueenVee> more here: http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t129.htm
[11:21] <Michaellss> gotta run cyall
[11:22] <QueenVee> bye
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[11:24] <from_OKC> so i take it this stretching is happening as we speak
[11:24] <from_OKC> over a longer period of time
[11:25] <QueenVee> Boy: i stand corrected, ZT does seem to be predicting what nancy was expecting:
[11:25] <QueenVee> Increasingly, leading up to the shift, the globe will suffer earthquakes in unexpected locales, unabating droughts and firestorms, rioting among the starving and economically desperate, mechanical failure in equipment subjected to stress or repaired inadequately by distracted personnel....
[11:25] <QueenVee> , cities staggering and imploding due to a shifting base beneath them and trains increasingly derailing, coastal and river bank cities flooded out and swept away, and opportunistic infections clogging the hospitals.
[11:25] <QueenVee> end of qutoe
[11:25] <QueenVee> quote
[11:25] <QueenVee> well, the infections are on the rise....
[11:26] <QueenVee> yes, tex, it is happening as we speak
[11:26] <QueenVee> as ZT has said, the poleshift is not something that is going to happen at some point in the future, it is something that is in the process of happening right now
[11:27] <BoY> the minute the pols shift happens it's in process of beginning again
[11:28] <from_OKC> i need to be domestic again... thought i would just drop in and check on everyone.
[11:28] <from_OKC> bbl
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[11:31] <BoY> i have stocked up on neem
[11:33] <QueenVee> neem?
[11:33] <BoY> yes it's an indian tree
[11:33] <BoY> neem tree
[11:34] <QueenVee> and what do you make from neem?
[11:34] <QueenVee> what do you use it for?
[11:35] <BoY> opportunistic infections
[11:35] <QueenVee> oh, i see. an herbal remedy.
[11:35] <BoY> there's not much that doesn't respond to neem
[11:35] <QueenVee> i'm just looking it up on the internet now
[11:38] <QueenVee> Boy: so how would you use neem for a localized infection, like an infected sore?
[11:38] <QueenVee> in oil form?
[11:38] <BoY> yes oil could be used but i'd take it internally capsules too
[11:39] <QueenVee> like an antibiotic?
[11:39] <BoY> i mix the extract with witch hazel
[11:39] <QueenVee> and drink it?
[11:39] <BoY> it's not oil
[11:39] * QueenVee shudders
[11:39] <BoY> no apply to wounds
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[11:40] <QueenVee> oh, ok
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[11:40] <QueenVee> that makes sense
[11:40] <QueenVee> wb tied
[11:40] <BoY> it taste bad so capsules r the way i'd take it internally
[11:40] <QueenVee> witch hazel in itself is good stuff
[11:40] <tied2> thanks
[11:40] <QueenVee> can you usually get it at any health food store?
[11:41] <BoY> the capsules r ground leaf not oil
[11:41] <BoY> no it's not readily available most health food places
[11:41] <BoY> don't carry it
[11:43] <QueenVee> dang
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[11:44] <QueenVee> hello islander
[11:44] <islander> hello, how is everyone today?
[11:45] <QueenVee> i'm good
[11:46] <QueenVee> how are you?
[11:46] <islander> well rested and doing lots of calculations
[11:46] <QueenVee> restis good
[11:46] <QueenVee> rest is good
[11:46] <QueenVee> calculations are bad
[11:47] <islander> not really, sometimes you have to follow a hunch and work things out for yourself
[11:48] <islander> I don't always accept things at face value, especially if I get a gut feeling about something
[11:48] <QueenVee> good thing
[11:49] <islander> working on a couple of 3d models to get a better picture, etc
[11:49] <QueenVee> ah, ok, those kind of calculations
[11:50] <QueenVee> i was supposed to spend the day with my friend's daughter, but she is in bed with the flu, so i find myself with a kind of "free" day
[11:50] <QueenVee> so i'm going to get that NETWORK WITH OTHERS part of the website done
[11:51] <islander> that's good to have free time, in the network section have you considered a portion for research?
[11:51] <QueenVee> islander: can you elaborate on what you mean?
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[11:52] <Leg0las> queenvee u here?
[11:52] <QueenVee> hello Legolas -- what brings you to this room?
[11:52] <QueenVee> yes, i am here
[11:52] <Leg0las> this is hkcal45
[11:52] <QueenVee> oh, ok. can you change your nick?
[11:52] <Leg0las> welp thats the thing
[11:53] <Leg0las> i need help
[11:53] <QueenVee> okay, what's the problem?
[11:54] <Leg0las> i just reg'd and auth my chann but still no chanserv how do i get him in there?
[11:54] <Leg0las> #cserive wont help
[11:54] <Leg0las> cservice*
[11:54] <QueenVee> okay, start from the beginning. what is your channel name and what is your account name?
[11:54] <Leg0las> srry to ubg u
[11:54] <Leg0las> bug*
[11:54] <QueenVee> np
[11:55] <Leg0las> #CaN is chann name  and Leg0las cuz some1 stole my hkcal45 name or its frozen
[11:55] <QueenVee> okay, just a sec, okay?
[11:56] <Leg0las> ok
[12:00] <QueenVee> okay, try this command in your channel:  /msg chanserv MODES #Can    (or /msg chanserv #Can MODES)
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[12:05] <cmell> sorry for the delay :(
[12:07] <QueenVee> hi cmell
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[12:07] <cmell> hi
[12:07] <QueenVee> wb
[12:07] <cmell> thx :)
[12:07] <QueenVee> islander: you were asking me about research, remember?
[12:07] <QueenVee> and i asked you to explain what you meant by research?
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[12:08] <cmell> hi cal44
[12:08] <islander> yes, it is just to build contacts for persons doing similar research,
[12:08] <cmell> nice to see you again
[12:08] <QueenVee> no, not just....
[12:08] <islander> in areas like seismic stability of areas, fault locations, geology and minerals, historic info by topic etc.
[12:09] <QueenVee> so you would like to network with people on research in given areas?
[12:10] <QueenVee> cmell: in answer to your question: a bit of a jerk
[12:10] <islander> yes, I am running into some data the when cleaned up gives some interesting perspectives that may not follow the " official" explanation
[12:11] <islander> I am curious, first, if anyone else is asking the question, and second what are they finding?
[12:12] <QueenVee> okay, give me some ideas on how we might do the mechanics of this, bear with me here for a sec.....
[12:12] <QueenVee> right now people will be able to click on a link for a given area and get a list of people with posted profiles in that area
[12:13] <islander> probably need to send a sample idea to you
[12:13] <QueenVee> you propose we have a "Research" link as well....
[12:13] <QueenVee> that will lead to a list of topics?
[12:13] <islander> yes
[12:13] <QueenVee> and then any posts on those topics?
[12:13] <QueenVee> how many research topics are you yourself interested in, and likely to post about?
[12:13] <BoY> QueenVee the area/profile lynks sounds good
[12:14] <islander> I am watching troubled times but the level of detail seems to be lacking on solutions
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[12:14] <QueenVee> Boy: yeah, that's already set....
[12:14] <BoY> oh
[12:15] <islander> based on the time people have been putting into the issues and the standard solutions seems to be buy this or that
[12:15] <cmell> when do you plan to have your contact page up QV ?
[12:15] <QueenVee> islander: answer my question -- how many topics would you be interested in posting about?
[12:15] <islander> when I think the solutions need to be ,you can do this with this or that if you have...
[12:15] <BoY> yes buyimng a shovel is good
[12:15] <islander> basic tools are good
[12:16] <QueenVee> cmell: in a few days, i'm going to send out the forms to people today, and as soon as they fill them out and return them to me, i'll put them up....
[12:16] <islander> not enough fingers on my hands, have been researching for over a year
[12:16] <cmell> ok
[12:18] <QueenVee> islander: let me get the profiles thing going, and then talk to me about it again (in about a week); maybe you can send me an example of something you might want to post, in the meantime?
[12:18] <BoY> do you think many are waiting for last possible moment before dashing for safe shelter
[12:18] <islander> will do
[12:19] <QueenVee> Boy: i think of those that know about PX, they are waiting to see it in the sky with their own eyes first, which is not necessarily the last possible moment
[12:19] <BoY> o/k
[12:19] <BoY> it's cutting it close tho?
[12:20] <QueenVee> yep, but if someone has everthing in place ready to put into place quickly, it should be ok
[12:20] <islander> it will make Christmas shopping look like a quiet day
[12:20] <cmell> hehe
[12:20] <QueenVee> has all the organization done, just short of the financial commitment....
[12:21] <cmell> I have nothing in place though :(
[12:21] <QueenVee> i think for most it is a question of finances.... it is for me.....
[12:21] <QueenVee> cmell: well, you'd better start working on a detailed plan
[12:21] <cmell> yes, I am working
[12:21] <BoY> what u think the bottom line would total then
[12:22] <cmell> only I have limited funds
[12:22] <QueenVee> if i had the money, i would have everything in place right now
[12:22] <QueenVee> most of us do, cmell
[12:22] <QueenVee> we have to do what we can with what we have
[12:22] <BoY> i', wondering what you think it would cost to be prepared
[12:22] <islander> the knowledge is what most will be lacking
[12:22] <QueenVee> Boy: it depends on the extent of your preparations, whether you are relocating, etc
[12:22] <QueenVee> islander: exactly. and it doesn't cost you anything to start LEARNING
[12:23] <BoY> ah,
[12:23] <QueenVee> Boy: that's something that YOU have to sit down and figure out
[12:23] <QueenVee> self-sufficiency is the name of the game
[12:23] <cmell> first you have to think water
[12:24] <cmell> what where
[12:24] <cmell> how
[12:24] <islander> the real setup is similar to,setting up a business, just opening the door isn't enough, you have to have resources to carry, say like a year
[12:24] <cmell> answer distillation
[12:24] <cmell> then think food
[12:24] <islander> how about condensing instaed, its all around you
[12:24] <BoY> lol
[12:25] <cmell> you have to purify water
[12:25] <cmell> because it might be contaminated
[12:25] <BoY> dew is collectable
[12:25] <cmell> BoY you can laugh you ass into hell, for all I care
[12:26] <cmell> :)
[12:26] <BoY> lol
[12:26] <cmell> sorry
[12:26] <QueenVee> Boy: why are you laughing?
[12:26] <BoY> at cmell comments
[12:27] <QueenVee> ?
[12:27] <cmell> it's not something to laugh at BoY
[12:27] <cmell> :(
[12:27] <BoY> well i didn't know
[12:27] <QueenVee> it's rather rude to laugh at someone who is offering you sincere advice
[12:27] <islander> cmell: have you considered any ways to test water?
[12:27] <islander> for type of impurities
[12:27] <cmell> no not really, you have any advice on that
[12:27] <cmell> ?
[12:28] <QueenVee> islander: good question
[12:28] <islander> that's one I'm researching, thought of spectral using light and water as the prism but the traces may be to low to detect
[12:29] <QueenVee> are there any existing products that will do that, like test strips, that kind of thing?
[12:29] <islander> pars per million stuff so I focus on the best way to collect "clean water"
[12:29] <cmell> yes QV
[12:29] <cmell> there are these strips of paper that can tell
[12:30] <islander> the problem is how many test kits are needed for how many chemicals?
[12:30] <cmell> and an instrument that can tell ph value of water n stuff
[12:32] <BoY> double distalation is an option if in doubt
[12:32] <QueenVee> cmell: are they expensive? how feasible is it to be a massive amount of them?
[12:32] <QueenVee> be=buy
[12:32] <cmell> well I guess they are expensive
[12:32] <cmell> :(
[12:32] <cmell> sorry
[12:32] <islander> I am just taking the approach that if I have an instrumnet I need to build able to maintain it or even build another to be effective or "Murphies " law will bite me in the a...
[12:33] <cmell> but the paper strip is not
[12:33] <cmell> laqmus or something it's called
[12:33] <islander> do you have a way to make your own test strips?
[12:33] <islander> litmus?
[12:33] <QueenVee> litmus
[12:33] <cmell> ahh
[12:33] <cmell> yes
[12:33] <cmell> buy that
[12:34] <islander> you can make those yourself
[12:34] <cmell> you can ?   how
[12:34] <islander> let me just do a fast search
[12:35] <cmell> it changes color when ph value changes
[12:37] <islander> try this, made from cabbage? http://www.earthsky.com/BBS/Teacher-Talk/22x44.html
[12:37] <QueenVee> uh, cabbage will be as rare in the aftertime as litmus strips
[12:37] <cmell> :) true
[12:38] <islander> test kit= cabage seeds?
[12:39] <inside-revolution> How are you today?
[12:39] <cmell> fine
[12:39] <cmell> you ?
[12:41] <islander> cmell: re litmus, also from lichen   http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/jun99/929154154.Ch.r.html
[12:42] <cmell> thx islander :)
[12:43] <islander> this is the type of research I was referring to but even more interesting is the perspective
[12:44] <islander> we want to test water and assume that litmus is the method but is there a sipler way?
[12:44] <cmell> hhmm
[12:44] <islander> eg extreme acid or aklkalinity has electrical properties
[12:44] <cmell> yes allways distill your water
[12:45] <islander> the only concern is what chemicals remain bonded to vapour
[12:45] <cmell> yes
[12:45] <cmell> thats correct
[12:47] <cmell> and I owe you  an answer
[12:47] <islander> then i ask the question, how much is natural vapour contaminated
[12:48] <cmell> thats correct
[12:48] <cmell> and I owe you  an answer
[12:48] <cmell> = I don't know
[12:49] <islander> but you have been challenged to find out, not for me, but for yourself
[12:49] <cmell> yes :)
[12:50] <cmell> do you know islander
[12:51] <islander> me neither, but my quest continues, some days I feel like Don Quixote
[12:51] <islander> where yiur windmill
[12:51] <QueenVee> Man of La Island
[12:51] <cmell> haha fight with a windmill
[12:51] <islander> your*
[12:52] <islander> that's qanother issue, I imagine that want bulit like a sries of sailboards
[12:53] <islander> second try, move keyboard up
[12:53] <cmell> :)
[12:54] <QueenVee> okay, it's time to take the doggie out and run some errands....
[12:55] <QueenVee> catch ya'll later
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[12:55] <cmell> later
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[12:55] <islander> thats another issue, I imagine that I want one built like a set of sailboards that can increase or decrease power by the tilt of the sail, no propellor stuff for my windmill
[12:55] <cmell> ok
[12:55] <cmell> hey op
[12:56] <op> hi merry christmass a
[12:56] <islander> I find that piece of brass and glass in the "time machine" to be inspiring
[12:56] <cmell> merry christmas to you too
[12:56] <islander> merry christmas op
[12:56] <op> http://members.lycos.nl/webhtml/al11.html  
[12:57] <op> have to wait a bit ofcourse
[12:57] <op> ;-)  
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[12:58] <cmell> it's in netherlands :(
[12:58] <op> :-S bye
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[12:58] <cmell> later
[12:58] <op> bye
[12:59] <islander> see you later
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[13:59] <obany> quiet here gee
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[14:00] <Ogmios> hi obany
[14:01] <obany> hi
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[14:05] <obany> http://www.unknowncountry.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-auth.cgi?file=/61/6252.html
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[14:17] <QueenVee> interesting post, obany
[14:27] <Ogmios> hi Queen
[14:28] <QueenVee> hi there petri
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[14:34] <BenSigel> hello
[14:35] <QueenVee> hello Bensigel
[14:35] <BenSigel> you never sleeping ? :)
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[14:36] <QueenVee> lol
[14:37] <QueenVee> hi drgreen
[14:38] <DRGREEN> hello everybody.
[14:39] <DRGREEN> Hey Queen, do you know you I can contact SteveH? I would like to take some imaging sessions for a small price, but I do not understand all this astronomical language.
[14:40] <DRGREEN> What his mail? I have no outlook
[14:40] <QueenVee> hold on, i'll get it for you
[14:41] <DRGREEN> shavas@shaw.com Sorry, I have to look before I ask.
[14:41] <DRGREEN> shavas@shaw.ca
[14:42] <QueenVee> shavas@shaw.ca
[14:42] <QueenVee> there ya go
[14:43] <DRGREEN> You know, there is someone who sells time of his telescopes for a price. These are Mewlon300's, same as Naji used. Hope it'll be nice.
[14:43] <QueenVee> someone in your area?
[14:43] <DRGREEN> nope. On the net, I encourage everyone to take a look.
[14:43] <DRGREEN> so more pictures can be taken.
[14:44] <DRGREEN> http://www.arnierosner.com/are/Rent-a-Scope/rent-a-scope.html
[14:44] <QueenVee> good for you Dr.Green!
[14:48] <DRGREEN> how's your networking with others coming along?
[14:49] <QueenVee> i'm just writing the covering note to go out with the form -- it should go out to everyone within the hour
[14:50] <DRGREEN> ok
[14:53] <DRGREEN> gotta check something.
[14:53] <DRGREEN> bye.
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[15:01] <QueenVee> hello yggdras
[15:02] <QueenVee> i have received many compliments on your banner....
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[15:04] <obany> moment, brb ..
[15:08] <obany> for what i know ... Steve also uses that rent a scope... in Arizona
[15:09] <QueenVee> yes, that's right
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[15:10] <QueenVee> hello nneka -- what brings you to this room?
[15:10] <nneka> just curious
[15:11] <QueenVee> nneka: please note the following notice that greets you as you enter the room:
[15:11] <QueenVee> Topic is 'MAY2003 POLESHIFT & AFTERTIME. For those wish to seriously discuss preparation & lead-up events. Newcomers & the simply curious should begin by reading www.ZetaTalk.com for basic info and/or join #EarthChanges for more general poleshift/PX chat.'
[15:14] <QueenVee> nneka?
[15:15] <nneka> i have read some of the information on pole shift and earth changes.i have also read sitchin's book on ploanet x
[15:15] <QueenVee> are you preparing for the May 2003 poleshift?
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[15:17] <QueenVee> hi gary
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[15:17] <QueenVee> nneka?
[15:18] <obany> back
[15:18] <nneka> mentally,yes.physicaaly, i do not know what to do and where to go as yet.i guess i'm too late
[15:18] <QueenVee> no, you're not too late
[15:18] <QueenVee> where do you live?
[15:18] <obany> we had a birthday at home that's why i didn't chatted that much
[15:18] <nneka> New york city
[15:19] <QueenVee> nneka: so when you say you are preparing mentally, does that mean you are preparing to die?
[15:19] <nneka> no way
[15:20] <QueenVee> then....?
[15:20] <nneka> where do you live,QueenVee
[15:21] <QueenVee> ontario canadea
[15:21] <QueenVee> canada
[15:22] <nneka> good place according to Zetas
[15:22] <QueenVee> yes, i'm fortunate, though there is some risk as i live between two of the Great Lakes
[15:23] <QueenVee> do you have friends or relatives who live in safer areas?
[15:25] <nneka> no.i hope to relocate to the safest area -Wisconsin,i guess.with no money!
[15:27] <inside-revolution> queen are you retired?
[15:27] <inside-revolution> or do you still work?
[15:27] <QueenVee> LOL, i wish i was retired
[15:28] <inside-revolution> How old are you?
[15:28] <QueenVee> no, i work as a freelance editor and literary agent
[15:28] <QueenVee> 43
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[15:28] <inside-revolution> You are on the Top! :)
[15:28] <QueenVee> hello Karole -- what brings you to this room?
[15:28] <inside-revolution> best age best energie
[15:29] <QueenVee> lol
[15:29] <QueenVee> in my prime, as they say....
[15:29] <inside-revolution> do you have family?
[15:31] <QueenVee> a 64 year-old mother, a 35 year-old brother, 2 ex-husbands, a 16-year-old cocker spaniel, and a 4-year old cat
[15:31] <QueenVee> and cousins and uncles and aunts
[15:31] <inside-revolution> big family! :)
[15:32] <Karole> Hi, just a lurker, don't mind me:)
[15:32] <QueenVee> Karole: we don't allow newcomers to lurk, sorry
[15:33] <QueenVee> * Topic is 'MAY2003 POLESHIFT & AFTERTIME. For those wish to seriously discuss preparation & lead-up events. Newcomers & the simply curious should begin by reading www.ZetaTalk.com for basic info and/or join #EarthChanges for more general poleshift/PX chat.'
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[15:34] <QueenVee> hi Ptomais, how are you?
[15:34] <Ptomais> hi, im fine
[15:34] <Ptomais> any 'breaking news'?
[15:35] <QueenVee> mmmmm, new analysis of the PX pics....
[15:35] <Ptomais> ah, a more clear picture?
[15:36] <QueenVee> well, i haven't had a chance to read any of it yet, myself.....
[15:36] <QueenVee> you can find some new analysis here: http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
[15:36] <Ptomais> thanks!
[15:36] <QueenVee> and J. William Dell has now posted a detailed analysis on his website....
[15:36] <QueenVee> hold on, i'll get you the link for that....
[15:37] <nneka> can planet x be seen with an amateur telescope?
[15:37] <QueenVee> all that info is on the zetatalk site....
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[15:38] <obany> nneka: yes
[15:38] <QueenVee> hello slether
[15:39] <nneka> thank you,obany
[15:39] <slether> hello qv
[15:40] <QueenVee> obany: wasn't there a posting on tt forums yesterday from J.william dell, providing a link to his analysis of the lastest pics...?
[15:40] <QueenVee> i can't seem to find it now
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[15:42] <Ptomais> doesnt matter queenvee
[15:42] <Ptomais> i will get it some day
[15:42] <QueenVee> lol
[15:42] <QueenVee> now i'm wondering if i dreamt it....
[15:42] <obany> QueenVee: this is another update of the sightings page http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/dell18.htm and this is from JWD : http://www.zetabc.com/jwd/index.htmhttp://www.zetabc.com/jwd/index.htmhttp://www.zetabc.com/jwd/index.htmhttp://www.zetabc.com/jwd/index.htm
[15:42] <obany> woops
[15:42] <obany> http://www.zetabc.com/jwd/index.htm
[15:42] <QueenVee> whoa
[15:43] <QueenVee> ah, that's what i was looking for
[15:43] <QueenVee> thanks obany
[15:46] <nneka> see you guys another time.i'm new but not lurking.thanks
[15:46] <QueenVee> bye
[15:46] <slether> qv how can i see the latest px images
[15:47] <QueenVee> check out the "PX Sightings" section of the zetatalk site
[15:47] <QueenVee> you can also read J.William Dell's analysis of the pics here: http://www.zetabc.com/jwd/index.htm
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[15:48] <slether> thanks
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[15:52] <slether> everyone have a good night
[15:52] <obany> thnx
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[15:57] <QueenVee> hello acp
[15:57] <acp128> hey queen
[15:57] <acp128> anything going on in here tonight?
[15:58] <QueenVee> not really -- it was pretty busy earlier.... i think everybody's having supper right now....
[15:58] <acp128> anyway, just wanted to compliment you on your criticism of MC on tt-watch... usually it seems people are afraid to say anything
[15:59] <QueenVee> hehe, thanks
[15:59] <QueenVee> that's how those operators operate....
[15:59] <QueenVee> try to intimidate people into silence
[15:59] <acp128> yeah... usually MC just says what he wants to say and maybe only 20% of the time someone will counter him
[15:59] <QueenVee> he's a poser
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[16:00] <QueenVee> acp: have you seen our new website yet?
[16:00] <acp128> yes i have actually.. i like it a lot.. you guys did a great job
[16:01] <Monk> hi
[16:01] <acp128> hi
[16:01] <QueenVee> i'm about to send out forms for a new 'NETWORK WITH OTHERS' section of the site....
[16:01] <QueenVee> where people can post and read LISTINGS of others in their area, for networking purposes
[16:01] <acp128> sounds like a great idea
[16:01] <acp128> better be sure to use a disclaimer though
[16:02] <QueenVee> such as?
[16:02] <acp128> about meeting others.... just that it could be risky and also that you shouldn't give away your survival site location
[16:03] <QueenVee> that's not a disclaimer -- that's a warning
[16:03] <QueenVee> and, yes, we are including a warning
[16:03] <acp128> ok
[16:03] <QueenVee> i've indicated that iwon't post anything that provides information about a specific location, or any kind of personal information
[16:04] <QueenVee> people are also encouraged to NOT post their email address and instead of replies routed through me
[16:05] <acp128> sounds good
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[16:09] <QueenVee> hi tenshu
[16:09] <tenshu> hihi
[16:10] <QueenVee> excuse the following:
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[16:11] <acp128> okay well i gotta head out to purchase gifts.. keep up the good work, QV
[16:11] <QueenVee> bye bye acp
[16:12] <acp128> let's see if i can leave on the first try this time
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[16:16] <QueenVee> be right back, gotta reboot
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[16:26] <QueenVee> hello walt
[16:26] <walt> hi
[16:29] <QueenVee> please ignore the following:
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[17:07] <QueenVee> hi tied
[17:07] <tied2> hello
[17:07] <tied2> brb
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[17:41] <QueenVee> hey monk
[17:41] <QueenVee> looks like everybody has disappeared for the holidays
[17:42] <Monk> hi
[17:42] <Monk> yea
[17:45] <tenshu> hm..
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[17:45] <bearz> hi QV
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[17:45] <bearz> thanks for the form
[17:46] <QueenVee> ha, got it already, huh?
[17:46] <bearz> anyone from the se us?
[17:46] <bearz> yeah
[17:46] <bearz> sure did
[17:46] <bearz> looks good
[17:46] <QueenVee> well, i tried to make it all as clear as possible....
[17:46] <QueenVee> but you KNOW people are gonna screw it up....
[17:47] <bearz> should be for most
[17:47] <bearz> ah my optimistic one : )
[17:47] <bearz> yr at home tonight?
[17:48] <QueenVee> yes i am
[17:48] <bearz> Hello people, Anyine here in the S.E, Us?
[17:48] <bearz> can I buy an O?
[17:48] <QueenVee> nobody's talking here, bearz.... i think everybody has disappearred for the holidays
[17:48] <bearz> thats some act
[17:48] <QueenVee> hehe
[17:49] <bearz> well we're here & the cats
[17:49] <QueenVee> and i'm here, with dog (Ben) and cat (Angel)
[17:49] <bearz> waves!!~
[17:50] <QueenVee> ruff..... meow....
[17:50] <bearz> hehe!~
[17:50] <bearz> alright slap me 4!
[17:50] <QueenVee> the lull gave me time to finally get those forms off....
[17:51] <QueenVee> i made my one and only Xmas shopping purchase today
[17:51] <bearz> gotta head to Wal-Mart soon hehe!!!~
[17:51] <bearz> NO!
[17:51] <bearz> yr joking?
[17:51] <QueenVee> YES!
[17:51] <bearz> : )
[17:51] <Monk> wal mart ? heh get ready for a mad house
[17:51] <QueenVee> many years ago i made the decision to abdicate from the gift-giving aspect of Xmas....
[17:52] <QueenVee> and everyone in my life has always accepted that....
[17:52] <bearz> I've done that with easter
[17:52] <QueenVee> with the exception of my mother....
[17:52] <bearz> although except when I needed the eggs
[17:52] <QueenVee> ha
[17:52] <QueenVee> so i got my mother's present this morning
[17:52] <QueenVee> which was easy, because she always gives me a very broad and obvious hint as to what she wants
[17:53] <bearz> Ok I'll bite
[17:53] <bearz> what was it?
[17:54] <QueenVee> yesterday she bubbled away to me about a really nifty stainless-steel grater they are selling over at the mall, in the kitchen specialty shop, and it only costs $25.....
[17:54] <bearz> don't tell me  afur coat?
[17:54] <bearz> hey they're nice!
[17:54] <QueenVee> so today i go over to the shop, and i say, do you have a nifty stainless-steel grater that sells for $25?
[17:54] <QueenVee> they brought it out; i paid for it
[17:54] <QueenVee> now i just have to wrap it
[17:54] <bearz> sounds like a fabulous relationship
[17:54] <bearz> are you married?
[17:55] <QueenVee> twice divorced
[17:55] <QueenVee> now permanently retired from such nonsense
[17:55] <bearz> once removed and check-mated?
[17:55] <QueenVee> hehe
[17:56] <QueenVee> been there, done that, ain't doing it again
[17:56] <bearz> yes no going back
[17:56] <bearz> unless its icy
[17:57] <QueenVee> that's why i wear spiked boots now
[17:57] <bearz> then its all the way back to cleveland
[17:57] <QueenVee> no slippage here
[17:57] <bearz> new rock?
[17:58] <bearz> good transmission
[17:58] <bearz> wish we had kwel cars here
[17:58] <bearz> the designs bore me
[17:58] <QueenVee> i've never owned a car
[17:59] <bearz> really
[17:59] <bearz> kwel
[17:59] <bearz> do you like bruce coburn?
[17:59] <QueenVee> OMG
[18:00] <QueenVee> how do you know Bruce Cockburn?
[18:00] <bearz> simple
[18:00] <bearz> its vibing off ya
[18:00] <QueenVee> ha
[18:00] <QueenVee> followed him from a young age
[18:01] <bearz> i saw him a few weeks ago
[18:01] <QueenVee> saw him in concert many times
[18:01] <QueenVee> but in his younger days
[18:01] <QueenVee> (and my younger days)
[18:02] <bearz> i used to catch all the van morrison concerets
[18:02] <bearz> on the east coast
[18:03] <bearz>  a few in europe
[18:03] <QueenVee> OMG -- Van Morrison
[18:03] <QueenVee> huge fan
[18:03] <bearz> yeah
[18:04] <bearz> we did some work together
[18:04] <QueenVee> you're a musician?
[18:04] <bearz> writer
[18:05] <QueenVee> song writer?
[18:05] <bearz> yeah
[18:05] <bearz> poet/song writer
[18:05] <QueenVee> you wrote songs with Van Morrison?
[18:06] <bearz> only 1
[18:06] <QueenVee> very cool
[18:06] <QueenVee> am i likely to know it?
[18:06] <bearz> yeah
[18:06] <bearz> it was long time ago
[18:06] <bearz> i used to read with the beats too
[18:06] <bearz> did a few docs with them
[18:07] <bearz> mostly do fashion photography now
[18:07] <bearz> working on second new collection
[18:08] <QueenVee> cool
[18:08] <bearz> just sign posts along the way whistle stops oin life
[18:08] <QueenVee> really sorry, but my dog is scratching to go outside, and i have to take him out
[18:08] <QueenVee> be back in a bit
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[18:09] <bearz> oh
[18:09] <bearz> have fun
[18:09] <bearz> happy christmas
[18:09] <bearz> if i could i'd post
[18:09] <bearz> a poem just for you
[18:09] <bearz> by: Kenneth Rexroth "Sword In A Cloud of Light"
[18:10] <bearz> search for it read & write me
[18:10] <bearz> later QV : )
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[18:41] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O
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[18:42] <Zetapal> bbl
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[18:54] <QueenVee> hello julesong
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[19:15] <QueenVee> hello slether
[19:15] <slether> hello qv
[19:16] <slether> whats going on
[19:18] <slether> qv what is the site with the U.S. FAULT LINES
[19:27] <QueenVee> hi, sorry about that
[19:27] <QueenVee> the server i use to connect to this room is down
[19:27] <QueenVee> i' m connected via the web right now and don' have all the bells and whistles....
[19:27] <slether> i was wondering
[19:27] <QueenVee> like notification of when someone has posted, etc.
[19:27] <slether> i see
[19:28] <QueenVee> its very frustrating
[19:28] <slether> i bet
[19:28] <QueenVee> can' t work on my website because it's on the same server
[19:29] <QueenVee> sorry, i don' t know a site that provides US fault lines....
[19:29] <QueenVee> i'm sure one exists, but i haven' been able to find one for canada...
[19:29] <slether> well, ho many miles from fault line will be hit
[19:29] <QueenVee> i confess that i am unclear about all that as well...
[19:30] <slether> just wondering
[19:30] <slether> so are you almost complete in your prep
[19:31] <QueenVee> i'm almost complete in my plan.... won' be implemented until PX is in the sky
[19:32] <slether> i see, so march 2003
[19:32] <QueenVee> yep, but everthing is in place
[19:32] <slether> nice
[19:32] <slether> is it just you and the dogs
[19:32] <QueenVee> no
[19:32] <slether> a family effort
[19:32] <QueenVee> my safe place is my cousin's farm near here....
[19:33] <QueenVee> so it will be my mother, brother....
[19:33] <slether> at least you have a safe place
[19:33] <QueenVee> her brothers and sisters, and parents....
[19:33] <QueenVee> my cousin's, that is
[19:33] <slether> they are all familiar with px
[19:33] <QueenVee> just my mother and cousin at this point
[19:34] <slether> its your job to convince your whole family of it, and the aftermath of it
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[19:35] <slether> hi xmas
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[19:36] <QueenVee> yee hah!
[19:36] <QueenVee> Ralf: what the hell happened?
[19:36] <slether> confusion
[19:36] <QueenVee> okay, i got kicked from my web connection, but i'm not back on via ralf's server....
[19:37] <QueenVee> so i have all my bells and whistles back
[19:37] <slether> thats good
[19:37] <QueenVee> anyways, as i was saying....
[19:37] <QueenVee> i don't view it as my job to convince anyone....
[19:37] <QueenVee> i will try my best, but i believe everyone unconsciously is aware of the poleshift....
[19:38] <QueenVee> and have already decided their future
[19:38] <slether> well as for me i would take more time convincing my family than a stranger
[19:38] <QueenVee> if members of my family have chosen to survive, then i will provide them with the means....
[19:38] <slether> great
[19:40] <slether> unless a war breaks out before px
[19:40] <QueenVee> how will a war interfere with that?
[19:40] <XmasRalf> well
[19:40] <QueenVee> ralfy!
[19:40] <XmasRalf> there was an opportunity involving a piece of cat 5
[19:40] <QueenVee> server problems, i presume
[19:40] <XmasRalf> that i didnt notice
[19:40] <XmasRalf> because i was at work all day
[19:41] <QueenVee> ralf: did you just come on?
[19:41] <XmasRalf> i just got home
[19:41] <XmasRalf> i can't irc from work
[19:41] <QueenVee> for the past hour or so, i couldn't get onto the website, nor connect here (because you changed my settings to connect via your server)
[19:41] <XmasRalf> right
[19:42] <QueenVee> what? i thought IRC was your work
[19:42] <XmasRalf> no
[19:42] <XmasRalf> heh
[19:42] <XmasRalf> i have to have a real job
[19:42] <XmasRalf> to be able to *pay* for the irc server
[19:42] <QueenVee> really???
[19:42] <QueenVee> i had no idea
[19:42] <XmasRalf> who would pay me?
[19:42] <QueenVee> i thought you worked for funnet?
[19:43] <XmasRalf> uh
[19:43] <XmasRalf> funnet has no money
[19:43] <QueenVee> well, silly me
[19:43] <XmasRalf> funnet's wouldn't even exist
[19:43] <XmasRalf> without people like me
[19:43] <QueenVee> so what's your real job?
[19:43] <XmasRalf> well
[19:43] <XmasRalf> i just started today
[19:43] <XmasRalf> training for a manager at cingular
[19:43] <QueenVee> :-(
[19:44] <QueenVee> we will see much less of you....
[19:44] <QueenVee> but you will be able to pay your phone bill...
[19:45] <XmasRalf> i'll be home around this time every night
[19:45] <QueenVee> yes, but then there's your social life....
[19:45] <QueenVee> ;-)
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[19:50] <inkpen> hello
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[19:50] <QueenVee> well, hello inkpen
[19:50] <QueenVee> and hello pils
[19:50] <PilsDB> hey
[19:50] <inkpen> small crowd tonite
[19:50] <QueenVee> yeah, but it was really full this afternoon....
[19:51] <PilsDB> I suspect all are getting ready for Wednesday
[19:51] <QueenVee> yes, right
[19:51] <QueenVee> inkpen: you haven't been getting any email from me of late, because your mailbox is perpetually full
[19:52] <inkpen> oh oh...i should do some deleting :)
[19:52] <inkpen> ive been neglecting it
[19:52] <inkpen> psst QV, youre not an op
[19:52] <QueenVee> oh my god
[19:52] <inkpen> heh
[19:52] <QueenVee> that's like being caught without your underwear
[19:53] <inkpen> lol
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[19:53] <QueenVee> hey, i'm just happy to be connected after the problems i've had this evening
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[19:53] <inkpen> server troubles?
[19:53] <XmasRalf> yeah
[19:53] <XmasRalf> i had a cable problem
[19:53] <QueenVee> IT'S ALL RALF'S FAULT!
[19:53] <QueenVee> (just kidding)
[19:53] <inkpen> i like your nick ralph :)
[19:54] <XmasRalf> faulty cat5.
[19:54] <XmasRalf> :-(
[19:54] <XmasRalf> inkpen: thanks :D
[19:54] <PilsDB> bah humbug
[19:54] <QueenVee> ditto
[19:55] <inkpen> Xmas shopping is hard :P
[19:55] <QueenVee> my mother's listening to some Xmas special on television, singing along to it.... i think i shall go mad.....
[19:55] <inkpen> heh
[19:55] <PilsDB> xmas tunes are the worst.
[19:55] <inkpen> jingle bells jingle bells...
[19:55] <PilsDB> stop!
[19:55] <QueenVee> STFU
[19:55] <PilsDB> STFU?
[19:55] <inkpen> espescialy in german, over and over and over again...at a coffe shop out side
[19:55] <QueenVee> Shut The Fuck Up
[19:55] <QueenVee> hehe
[19:56] <PilsDB> ahh, I agree
[19:56] <inkpen> they do that to keep away loiterers
[19:56] <inkpen> scars away most customers too
[19:57] <PilsDB> I had to stop at the grocery store today and it was a mad house.
[19:57] <inkpen> i was at a very busy mall today too
[19:58] <PilsDB> Thankfully Xmas will be over very soon a people can get back to being their grump old selves.
[19:58] <inkpen> although i saw a reasonably priced wakasashi
[19:58] <inkpen> full tang
[19:58] <PilsDB> wakasashi?
[19:58] <PilsDB> skateboard?
[19:58] <QueenVee> i never stop being my grumpy old self
[19:59] <inkpen> in laymans terms a small katana sword
[19:59] <PilsDB> how small?
[19:59] <inkpen> heh
[20:00] <inkpen> about an arms length if you are 6 feet tall
[20:00] <PilsDB> that's small???  I'd hate to see the large ones :)
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[20:00] <inkpen> he the big ones, nodashi are HUGE!
[20:01] <PilsDB> must be pretty heavy too.
[20:01] <Monk> yup
[20:01] <inkpen> a katanas about 3 pounds
[20:01] <inkpen> light but strong
[20:01] <PilsDB> what are they made of?
[20:02] <inkpen> properly made, two steel aloys...the outside is a hard aloow the inside is more of a flexible alloy
[20:02] <Monk> I used to use a katana in this game
[20:02] <inkpen> aloow=alloy
[20:02] <PilsDB> interesting
[20:03] <inkpen> but the one im getting is one type of steel only
[20:05] <inkpen> the authentic version is very expensive and folded stell but the one im getting is tempered steel
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[20:06] <inkpen> hi mel
[20:06] <PilsDB> good day mel
[20:07] <QueenVee> hello mel
[20:07] <mel> hi
[20:07] <QueenVee> are you cmell?
[20:07] <QueenVee> no, you're not
[20:07] <mel> I am great, and you?
[20:07] <mel> Why not
[20:07] <QueenVee> not seen you here before, mel -- what brings you to this room?
[20:08] <mel> I was here a couple of days ago, I said I was in vancouver and was wondering how fast planetx was travelling
[20:09] <QueenVee> right....
[20:09] <QueenVee> did you find out?
[20:09] <inkpen> wow van city heh...you been to victoria?
[20:09] <mel> not really, but it must be moving fasy to cover that distance in such short order
[20:09] <mel> lots of times]
[20:09] <QueenVee> yep, picking up speed all the time
[20:10] <inkpen> its speed is growing exponentialy as it nears our solar system
[20:10] <PilsDB> ink, you in Victoria?
[20:10] <mel> is there an estimate to its visibility in the night sky
[20:10] <Monk> 7 weeks before may 15
[20:10] <inkpen> wobble wobble goes saturn and urinus
[20:11] <inkpen> thats to the naked eye
[20:11] <mel> what area should I look in
[20:11] <mel> south
[20:11] <inkpen> isnt is an apperent magnitude of 11?
[20:12] <mel> ??
[20:12] <mel> what area are you guys in
[20:13] <QueenVee> ontario canada
[20:13] <PilsDB> Manitoba
[20:14] <mel> Out of the sky scrapers i hope
[20:14] <Monk> california usa
[20:14] <QueenVee> i recently relocated from Toronto
[20:14] <PilsDB> as opposed to california russia?
[20:14] <mel> I am going to the interior around that time
[20:15] <mel> After that to an island I have property on near Prince Rupert
[20:15] <mel> if it exists
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[20:15] <inkpen> hi humvee
[20:16] <QueenVee> hello humvee
[20:17] <humvee> HI just put in my listing on the"NETWORK W/OTHERS" section of Shift2003 w/s
[20:17] <humvee> things seem to come together as time goes by
[20:17] <mel> I hope so as time is running out
[20:18] <QueenVee> humvee: you mean you emailed it to me?
[20:18] <humvee> If u figure living a good life in the a/time then time is about to begin
[20:18] <humvee> yes
[20:19] <QueenVee> great
[20:20] <humvee> some residents stopped me on the street yesterday & said we r on the same page lets have our info meeting as soon as the new year starts
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[20:20] <QueenVee> hello gwilra
[20:20] <inkpen> hi gwilra
[20:20] <gwilra> greetings...
[20:20] <QueenVee> humvee: wow, great
[20:22] <humvee> jus going to keep it basic they already make bio-diesel and r taking their equip up to 2 cabins on the hill
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[20:22] <inkpen> hey ydgrasil
[20:22] <PilsDB> here's a story to remind us of some other basics we need to be aware of http://society.guardian.co.uk/christmasappeal/story/0,11321,865042,00.html
[20:26] <mel> goodnite all
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[20:28] <PilsDB> hope he didn't leave because of my story
[20:28] <humvee> m planning to bring mostly geographic water movement type of info to discuss w residents
[20:29] <humvee> more probably his time zone
[20:30] <PilsDB> how many residents in your group?
[20:30] <humvee> there is a cocnut wireless here & word spreads fast - so far about 20
[20:30] <QueenVee> coconut wireless -- hehe
[20:30] <PilsDB> impresive.
[20:30] <humvee> it is hard 2 know who to count 200 or so know
[20:31] <humvee> many r in denial (river in Egypt)
[20:31] <PilsDB> I can relate...I sometimes go into denial.
[20:32] <humvee> some in my family are waiting to be raptured
[20:33] <QueenVee> seriously?
[20:33] <humvee> we are working with those who have hardware to use and can bring their friends around
[20:33] <humvee> christians are a special case study = fearful
[20:34] <humvee> not the men of GOD steryo type u would think
[20:34] <humvee> I am a man og god & am a budist
[20:34] <humvee> of
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[20:34] <PilsDB> I've never understood the Christian concepts of God-fearing.
[20:35] <Nightbird> Hi everyone
[20:35] <QueenVee> yes
[20:35] <QueenVee> hello nightbird
[20:35] <PilsDB> God is supposed be be love (imo)
[20:35] <PilsDB> hey nightbird
[20:35] <Nightbird> Hi Queen
[20:35] <Nightbird> Hi Pils
[20:36] <humvee> god fearing is the concept of the elite manipulating them
[20:36] <Nightbird> I agree with you Hum
[20:36] <PilsDB> I realize that, but you would think some of them Christians would question that.
[20:36] <Nightbird> by inspiring fear the religious elite have maintained power
[20:37] <Nightbird> They are taught not to question.. "who would dare to question God?"
[20:37] <Nightbird> so goes the thinking
[20:38] <PilsDB> question everything, I say
[20:38] <Nightbird> and so they follow along blindly, until an event in their life "wakes them up"
[20:39] <humvee> if u talk to them with confidence they bend
[20:39] <humvee> do not have convictuins based on reason
[20:39] <QueenVee> I have to take the dog out for his last pee -- be back in 1/2 hr or so...
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[20:39] <PilsDB> later
[20:39] <Nightbird> See ya later, Queen
[20:40] <Nightbird> Hum, reason leaves when fear enters in
[20:40] <Nightbird> fear is unreasonable
[20:40] <humvee> human u mean
[20:40] <Nightbird> same difference
[20:40] <humvee> true
[20:41] <Nightbird> you are a child of God... what have you to fear???
[20:41] <humvee> hav u gotten to any type of info mtg in ur area yet
[20:42] <Nightbird> me?
[20:42] <humvee> px info party? yes
[20:42] <Nightbird> not really.. I don't need the info..
[20:42] <Nightbird> I already know its coming
[20:42] <PilsDB> lol
[20:42] <Nightbird> people around me... well they don't want to hear it
[20:43] <humvee> we were just sort of there when u came in - here after the 1st of year  
[20:43] <Nightbird> to them I am a "doom and gloom"
[20:43] <Nightbird> so I gave up on em
[20:43] <PilsDB> you sould like a nutty cult follower to me :
[20:43] <PilsDB> :)
[20:43] <humvee> some do & will ber on the same page & u will get to help them plan
[20:43] <Nightbird> LOL..yeah right
[20:44] <Nightbird> I tried with Y2K way back when and got laughed at then
[20:44] <PilsDB> I've given up trying to tell people, they will ask when they are ready.
[20:44] <Nightbird> so I don't waste my time with em
[20:44] <humvee> it seems to switch over as u tel them that px is sighted & on the way a few at first
[20:44] <Nightbird> yes
[20:45] <Nightbird> many people are too caught up in their own lives
[20:45] <Nightbird> to see the signs all around them
[20:45] <humvee> I have a few who r making supplys like bio fuel soap etc.
[20:45] <PilsDB> and some don't have the strength to live thru it
[20:45] <Nightbird> I am one of those... I don't really want to live through it
[20:45] <humvee> a few at first willwant to work with u sooner or latter
[20:46] <Nightbird> I have lots of preparations.. but they are mostly for my husband
[20:46] <humvee> r u going to check out or what
[20:46] <Nightbird> I don't care either way
[20:46] <Nightbird> if I am meant to survive to teach others... I will
[20:47] <Nightbird> otherwise, I would just as soon go and leave it to those who are younger and not as spoiled
[20:47] <humvee> I met an Antie fm Molokaii who is sending kids to relitives & camping on the beach that nite!
[20:47] <Nightbird> the beach??
[20:47] <Nightbird> that wouldn't be cool
[20:48] <humvee> I am a coot and I want to get through uninjured just for the fun of it
[20:48] <Nightbird> I am in Texas... 500 miles from the gulf.. so I may be going for a long swim anyway
[20:48] <Nightbird> I ahve been waiting 22 years for the pole shift
[20:49] <humvee> in the Movie Astroid the father & daughter / reporter watched the tidal wave fm the beach a great scene
[20:49] <Nightbird> since I first read Cayce's work
[20:49] <Nightbird> did they live?
[20:50] <humvee> so has my dad he calls it the project and takes his marching orders from the HOLY SPIRIT
[20:50] <humvee> no their charecters were relieved of any further lines in the movie
[20:50] <Nightbird> My work will mostly likely be done with the shift..
[20:51] <Nightbird> I am trying to help others advance as quickly as possible.. for the Harvest
[20:51] <Nightbird> husband is still needed to teach others how to grow food etc
[20:51] <humvee> I love to read the futurists they are just diong what we will all do soon
[20:52] <humvee> what do u do
[20:52] <Nightbird> I am a NUmerologist
[20:52] <Nightbird> also have studied much in the way of spiritual laws and the laws of energy
[20:52] <humvee> cool is that a profession that pays
[20:53] <Nightbird> you might say my life has been a crash course...LOL
[20:53] <Nightbird> no, I would never accept money for spiritual advice or wisdom..
[20:53] <humvee> mine to
[20:53] <humvee> good 4 U
[20:53] <humvee> the Kahunas here dont take money either
[20:53] <Nightbird> I give freely.. helping others to advance... helps me advance, too... Laws of Energy 101
[20:54] <PilsDB> karma
[20:54] <Nightbird> yes..
[20:54] <humvee> I just cant wait 4 the paradyme to change and the honest barter system to take opver
[20:55] <Nightbird> I can't wait for people to be honest altogether
[20:55] <humvee> people will not be required to do   they will contribute instead
[20:55] <Nightbird> too much corruption and "me first" mentality
[20:55] <Nightbird> like the Indians used to do..
[20:55] <humvee> as soon as we stop it has already changed
[20:55] <Nightbird> even the old folks who could not work used to contribute
[20:56] <Nightbird> I agree, Hum
[20:56] <Nightbird> such as watching the children for those who were working
[20:56] <humvee> exactly why those with wisdom will be contributing much
[20:56] <Nightbird> we bring the hatefullness with us
[20:56] <humvee> or not
[20:56] <Nightbird> thats right
[20:57] <humvee> love is the answer literally
[20:57] <Nightbird> this is the "last hurrah" on the earth for those who live a selfish life (STS)
[20:57] <Nightbird> Cayce said that selfishness is the root of all evil... and I agree with him
[20:58] <humvee> there will still be a few but not affect our groups much
[20:58] <humvee> the argument is a circle
[20:58] <Nightbird> It is my understanding they will not be allowed to reincarnate here.. won't be able to meet the vibrations
[20:59] <humvee> cuz the most selfish actually contribute the most by their own dedication - Atlas Shrugged
[20:59] <humvee> after a while true
[20:59] <Nightbird> Boortz talks about that book alot... Ann Ranyd
[20:59] <PilsDB> My mom loves that book
[21:00] <Nightbird> but as we treat others we also treat ourselves
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[21:00] <Nightbird> I am not speaking of people who work hard to get ahead
[21:00] <Nightbird> I am speaking of those who would stab you in the back for money or possessions..
[21:01] <Nightbird> the people who would rape a baby for sexual gratification.. to hell with the pain it causes the baby
[21:01] <Nightbird> the people who will kill you to force you to believe as they say
[21:02] <Nightbird> or torture you
[21:02] <Nightbird> kill you for your shoes, your jacket or anything you have that they want
[21:02] <humvee1> sounds like u hav had a hard time
[21:02] <Nightbird> working to get ahead isn't selfish to me..
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[21:03] <Nightbird> I ahve been raped, robbed, beaten by an abusive husband, been homeless for more than a year, losing my kids, my family..
[21:03] <humvee1> I create to demonstrate the highest example of who I am  -  I am is the key to creating
[21:03] <Nightbird> yeah, I ahve had my share
[21:04] <Nightbird> we create with our thoughts
[21:04] <inkpen> i gues it all boils down to weather u work hard to improve your life or if  you work hard to improve the lives of those around you
[21:04] <humvee1> lets change that have a group that supports each other
[21:04] <Nightbird> Ever asked a poor man for a job?
[21:05] <Nightbird> like it or not we all have to eat... which means work
[21:05] <inkpen> yep
[21:05] <Nightbird> there is no free lunch
[21:05] <humvee1> yes with great success u just have to form a win win situation
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[21:05] <humvee1> no but much of what grows is eatable
[21:05] <Nightbird> I don't see what is wrong with improving your life
[21:06] <Nightbird> then you are in a positon to improve the lives of those around you
[21:06] <humvee1> everything is right with noticing that ur life is already improved
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[21:06] <Nightbird> Hi Tied
[21:06] <PilsDB> hey tied
[21:06] <Nightbird> My life is much improved
[21:06] <tied2>   «««««««««««« Hello  »»»»»»»»»»»»
[21:07] <humvee1> good lets go 4 that
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[21:07] <PilsDB> hi red
[21:07] <Nightbird> I have gone from being homeless, with only the clothes on my back 22 years ago.. to owning a ranch and making 120,000 a year... I didn't have to screw anyone over to get it either
[21:07] <Red> Hiya PBD  how goes it of late?
[21:07] <Nightbird> Hi Red
[21:07] <humvee1> I m doing the same set goals & go on to set more as they r done
[21:08] <Red> Hi all
[21:08] <PilsDB> good
[21:08] <Nightbird> I have also helped others on the way... being "well off" doesn't necessarily mean you are against humaty
[21:08] <PilsDB> nightbird, I did the opposite and gave up the high paying career to make my life better
[21:09] <PilsDB> less stress, more free time for family, etc.
[21:09] <Nightbird> believe it or not.. my spiritual life was better when I was homeless
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[21:09] <Nightbird> the things you think you own... in reality they own you
[21:09] <WWWqWWW> Hi
[21:10] <Nightbird> Hi WWW
[21:10] <Nightbird> they also foorm a distraction
[21:10] <Red> Hey q
[21:10] <WWWqWWW> first time with Mirc so I'll mostly watch
[21:10] <PilsDB> enjoy
[21:11] <Nightbird> It's different, WWW
[21:11] <Red> gotta run. just thought i'd see who was around.  Se ya soon
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[21:11] <Nightbird> Love and Light to you, Red
[21:11] <humvee1> I am sorting the things that own me
[21:11] <PilsDB> night, you make an excellent point about the things you own.  I finally realized that and gave up a lot of my "prized" posessions
[21:11] <humvee1> I have too many things
[21:11] <Nightbird> Pils, do you know the Tarot?
[21:12] <PilsDB> I have had my cards read a few times but not in the last 10 years
[21:12] <Nightbird> Because what you descibe is the Eight of Cups
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[21:12] <Nightbird> Hi Queen, WB
[21:12] <QueenVee> hello
[21:13] <QueenVee> hellow WWW -- what brings you to this room?
[21:13] <Nightbird> Pils, this is what I mean
[21:13] <PilsDB> it's quite enlightening to realize you don't need all the toys to make you happy.
[21:14] <Nightbird> yes, they distract you true purpose which is spiritual advancement
[21:14] <PilsDB> Now, I enjoy the simple things like a nice sunset or sunrise, watching a bird, or just going for a walk in the field.
[21:15] <Nightbird> Losing it all was a spiritual lesson for me.. that will not happen again.
[21:15] <QueenVee> the more stuff you have, the more you have to work to maintain it, and protect it -- it's a vicious circle
[21:15] <QueenVee> yes, nightbird, i've been in the same situation
[21:16] <WWWqWWW> I've been slipping down a slope for the last 17 months. I can't gelieve that I'm about to go over an almost NEW AGE precipice but that's where the logic takes me.
[21:16] <Nightbird> Yes, Queen.. and it doesn't benefit your soul one iota
[21:16] <QueenVee> WWW: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
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[21:16] <WWWqWWW> maybe a mont or two
[21:16] <QueenVee> hey froggy
[21:17] <froggy> hi
[21:17] <WWWqWWW> month
[21:17] <QueenVee> what part of the world do you live in?
[21:17] <WWWqWWW> Atlantic city
[21:17] <QueenVee> what state is that?
[21:17] <WWWqWWW> NJ
[21:17] <Nightbird> as Jesus said " do not put your faith in the things where the moth and the rust can corrupt.. and theives break in and steal.. for where your treasures are, there will the heart be also."
[21:18] <Nightbird> Queen that is right on the coast of New Jersey
[21:18] <Nightbird> Gambling mecca.. Donald Trump
[21:18] <Nightbird> has a big Casino there
[21:18] <froggy> i've been there
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[21:19] <WWWqWWW> America's Favorite Playground
[21:19] <Nightbird> Maybe for the East Coast, WWW.. Las Vegas is actaully more popular
[21:19] <PilsDB> isn't that the city that the game Monopoly was based on?
[21:19] <Nightbird> May have been Pils.. don't know
[21:20] <QueenVee> WWW: so are you planning to relocate?
[21:20] <WWWqWWW> Exactly -- they can use the FAVORITE because there are so many person trip days
[21:21] <Nightbird> yes large population with NYC so close
[21:21] <WWWqWWW> Yes, that's an easy thing for me to do so I might as well. If nothing happens next year then I can start dealing with 2012.
[21:22] <QueenVee> humvee: are you still there?
[21:22] <humvee1> yes
[21:22] <WWWqWWW> I'm on the 19th floor but I doubt that would be much help.
[21:22] <QueenVee> you didn't answer all the questions on the form -- they're compusory
[21:22] <humvee1> which one?
[21:23] <QueenVee> numbers 1 through 12
[21:23] <humvee1> I was writing to cover all the bases
[21:24] <QueenVee> send me your answers to the questions
[21:24] <humvee1> I will formalize my answers in email
[21:24] <QueenVee> thank you
[21:27] <QueenVee> WWW: yes, that's a private channel
[21:28] <WWWqWWW> roger
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[21:33] <CosmicVortex> Greetings celestrial brothers and sisters
[21:33] <PilsDB> hey
[21:34] <CosmicVortex> * celestial
[21:34] <QueenVee> hello Cosmic -- what brings you so pretentiously into this room?
[21:34] <tenshu> :)
[21:34] <tenshu> morning cosmic!
[21:34] <Nightbird> Hi Cosmic.. Love and light to you, too
[21:34] <CosmicVortex> I am here to merge vibrations with my fellow beings
[21:35] <humvee1> queen feel free 2 combine 2 emails 2 make a listing - thanks
[21:35] <QueenVee> Cosmic: take note: Topic is 'MAY2003 POLESHIFT & AFTERTIME. Restricted to those who wish to discuss serious preparation & lead-up events. "Curious" folk are directed to www.ZetaTalk.com for basic info and #EarthChanges for more general/introductory Poleshift/PX chat.'
[21:35] <CosmicVortex> if I am pretensious by seeking love I apologize
[21:35] * QueenVee rolls her eyes
[21:36] <QueenVee> Cosmic: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[21:36] <CosmicVortex> for approx 5 years
[21:36] <QueenVee> what part of the world do you live in?
[21:37] <CosmicVortex> Northern Va
[21:37] <QueenVee> are you preparing for the poleshift?
[21:37] <CosmicVortex> indeed
[21:37] <PilsDB> physically or just spiritually
[21:38] <CosmicVortex> I am preparing financially and mentally preparing to leave westwards... spiritually in many ways
[21:38] <QueenVee> west to where?
[21:38] <CosmicVortex> west virginia most likely
[21:38] <CosmicVortex> the mountains
[21:38] <QueenVee> at what point will you be doing that?
[21:39] <CosmicVortex> probably in march
[21:39] <QueenVee> mmmm
[21:39] <QueenVee> waiting to see PX in the sky, like most of us....
[21:40] <CosmicVortex> heh, hope we see it soon, I have a 20k bet going with a skeptic person which would fund our project quite well
[21:40] <tenshu> the dome right?
[21:41] <CosmicVortex> if the dome is still being worked on then yes
[21:41] <humvee1> if he looses he wont pay skeptics never admit their wrong
[21:41] <CosmicVortex> I know him pretty well.. he is a pretty noble guy
[21:41] <CosmicVortex> he will admit he is wrong if proven so
[21:43] <humvee1> my friend said he son is anstronomer and as sincrer as they come he turned out to be one of the most vitriolic debunkers on the sci-astro chat
[21:43] <WWWqWWW> Yeah, but will money be worth anything. Sounds like a no win situation.
[21:43] <WWWqWWW> Interesting thing about 2003. It makes a very good KTQ (Key Threshold Question). That's my term for a very simple question that can only be answered YES or NO.
[21:43] <WWWqWWW> If you answer it one way then nothing changes. If you answer it the other way then everything changes. It's a real Paradigm Shifter.
[21:43] <WWWqWWW> In my case, I've put off having children until now. That may turn out to be a good thing. Similarly, I've resisted getting tied down by possessions and property. Must have been a reason. My life has always had a synchronistic aspect to it.    Time will tell.
[21:44] <CosmicVortex> indeed
[21:45] <humvee1> living on the edge of the Paradigm
[21:47] <PilsDB> gotta go people.  good night all
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[21:48] <humvee1> when do u'll think the economic collapse will happen
[21:49] <CosmicVortex> very soon
[21:49] <humvee1> what will the looming comet do to the price of stocks
[21:49] <CosmicVortex> heh..
[21:50] <CosmicVortex> like a rock..
[21:50] <humvee1> waiting to move is like playing russian roulette
[21:51] <tenshu> hey cosmic
[21:51] <tenshu> #earthchanges
[21:51] <tenshu> just double click on that
[21:51] <Monk> queenvee: did u see lord of the rings?
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[21:52] <Pegasi_Tristan> Hi, all.
[21:52] <QueenVee> yes, just fabulous!
[21:52] <Monk> I liked it
[21:52] <QueenVee> incredible special effects
[21:52] <QueenVee> the depiction of gollum is very good
[21:52] <Monk> cant wait for the next one next year
[21:52] <QueenVee> we won't see it....
[21:53] <Monk> heh thats rigt :(
[21:53] <QueenVee> hello pegasi, long time no see
[21:53] <Pegasi_Tristan> :)
[21:53] <inkpen> hi pegasi
[21:54] <Pegasi_Tristan> hello...whats new today?
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[21:59] <WWWqWWW> Which begs the question -- are there any cooperative efforts underway other the the Mormons and the survivalists?
[22:01] <WWWqWWW> Looks as if most just peek in periodically. Guess I'll do that.
[22:02] <WWWqWWW> It makes for a longer term conversation. That's just fine.
[22:02] <QueenVee> WWW: wow, you've been here for how long....
[22:02] <QueenVee> and you already know how most people function here....
[22:03] <WWWqWWW> must be 25 minutes, I guess.
[22:03] <QueenVee> consider that it's the day before Xmas eve....
[22:03] <QueenVee> everyone's gone out of town
[22:03] <QueenVee> not a typical evening
[22:04] <inkpen> allot of peeps in #earthchanges to
[22:04] <WWWqWWW> Yeah, and then there's the geographic scattering.
[22:04] <WWWqWWW> Get many from around the world?
[22:04] <QueenVee> yes, many
[22:05] <WWWqWWW> I think I'd be pretty upset if I lived in Brazil.  :^)
[22:05] <QueenVee> you asked the following question: are there any cooperative efforts underway other the the Mormons and the survivalists?
[22:05] <QueenVee> yes, there are
[22:06] <WWWqWWW> got a vector?
[22:06] <QueenVee> vector?
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[22:06] <WWWqWWW> Poor Brazilians -- instead of getting winter they get the Horth Pole.
[22:07] <WWWqWWW> directions/ URL
[22:07] <WWWqWWW> pointer
[22:07] <QueenVee> pointer to what?
[22:07] <WWWqWWW> to the coops
[22:07] <QueenVee> you think they are advertising themselves on the web?
[22:07] <QueenVee> they are forming quietly
[22:08] <QueenVee> without fanfare
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[22:08] <WWWqWWW> Ahh -- don't have to advertise to use the web.
[22:08] <inkpen> wb humvee
[22:09] <QueenVee> humvee is in the process of forming a community in hawaii
[22:09] <humvee> went to look at #earthchanges - just mind changes there
[22:09] <QueenVee> WWW: what kind of cooperative efforts are YOU involved in?
[22:09] <QueenVee> humvee: lol
[22:10] <WWWqWWW> Hawaii is a different problem. Aren't they supposed to end up on the Equator?
[22:10] <QueenVee> humvee: meaning what, that they are waffling?
[22:11] <humvee> strated letting people know who already doing things - they the confidence of my info now they are atleast on the page
[22:11] <WWWqWWW> Well, that why I asked the question. Remember how long I've been aware of this possibility.
[22:11] <humvee> having 1st info meeting in early january
[22:11] <QueenVee> excellent, humvee
[22:12] <QueenVee> WWW: well, you haven't answerd my question: what kind of cooperative efforts are YOU involved in?
[22:12] <humvee> my father n law knew 20yrs ago and drove everyone mad with info too early to be helpful
[22:12] <QueenVee> humvee: interesting
[22:13] <humvee> we have deisel equippment to do rebuild after so maling bio-diesel hi priority
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[22:13] <humvee> byproduct is soap
[22:13] <QueenVee> hey fetus
[22:13] <fetus> hey!
[22:13] <humvee> giong to work with stores to move up food
[22:14] <fetus> did you get the christmas card qv? :)
[22:14] <QueenVee> WWW: i'll take that as "none"?
[22:14] <QueenVee> fetus: no, no card....
[22:14] <fetus> oh...hold on
[22:14] <humvee> hydro plant 2 get spare parts so will have electric & sani h2o under tap  and of coarse public baths
[22:16] <humvee> gasoline is very limited time wise 1 year w/stabil
[22:16] <humvee> will use row boats to fish new coves where the towns used to be
[22:17] <QueenVee> fetus: ha! very good...
[22:17] <humvee> going to let others help set the coarse
[22:17] <fetus> :)
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[22:18] <QueenVee> i sent out the ''NETWORK" forms only a couple of hours ago, and i'm already getting a great response
[22:18] <humvee> some leaders just blew us off - but now starting to ask questions
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[22:19] <humvee> the contact people 4 each areas will help alot and is deligating the work load (u cant do everything)
[22:20] <QueenVee> sounds like progress, humvee; a lot of work ahead though
[22:20] <humvee> only just a start time will tell
[22:21] <humvee> dont want a world where only living things and drones
[22:21] <humvee> are
[22:22] <humvee> we think the children will scamper up the hills
[22:22] <WWWqWWW> Well, first, it's not too useful to answer a question with a question. NOOC (no offense, of course). I've been waiting for insight and inspiration. The simplest thing is to marry a Mormon. Focusing on fundamentals, a long term source of power would be great. Natural gas as in West Virginia or hydropower. You don't know what will happen to wells after earthquakes so that is yet another problem. Seems to me that s
[22:22] <humvee> they are spry
[22:22] <WWWqWWW> it may make sense to go someplace where primitive people already have things workd out.
[22:23] <QueenVee> WWW: in other words, you're looking to piggy back on someone else's plans
[22:23] <fetus> http://users.erols.com/mshaver/bikegen.htm
[22:24] <QueenVee> you've known about the poleshift for 5 years, and that's the best you can come up with?  Marry a Mormon?
[22:24] <WWWqWWW> At this late date that may be the only option. Can you imagine getting into an underground  or under mountain shelter in just a few months?
[22:24] <fetus> http://www.oasismontana.com/AQUAIR.html    this one is really neat...you just place it in a stream or river and boom, you have electricity.
[22:25] <QueenVee> WWW: you clearly have a very poor grasp of poleshift and aftertime conditions
[22:25] <QueenVee> underground shelters are out
[22:25] <QueenVee> natural gas and hydropower are out
[22:25] <QueenVee> waiting for insight and inspiration is out
[22:25] <QueenVee> practical preparation is where it's at
[22:26] <humvee> fetus put that on my fav lst - thnx
[22:26] <QueenVee> WWW: do you have anything to offer the community that you plan to sponge off of?
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[22:27] <fetus> np humvee
[22:27] <QueenVee> hey kwandrie, long time no see
[22:27] <WWWqWWW> Oh YEAH. Big time.
[22:27] <kwandrie> Hey, hows it going?
[22:27] <kwandrie> I only make it to the chats occasionally but always enjoy them
[22:28] <kwandrie> i assume, most who go are preparing for planet x
[22:28] <QueenVee> well, it's been quiet here today, everybody's off doing their holiday thing
[22:28] <QueenVee> yes, people are getting into serious preparation at this point
[22:29] <humvee> for xmas?
[22:29] <kwandrie> what would you do if your health had become bad enough that you knew even if you made it through it that you w ould not make it long
[22:29] <QueenVee> not a lot of time left
[22:29] <QueenVee> kwandrie: i would resign myself to dying during the shift
[22:29] <kwandrie> That is the position i am in and am stuck as to what to do next
[22:30] <kwandrie> but what of my preparations....should i continue even though family does  not believe in it
[22:30] <humvee> people put more prep into holiday planning than disasters
[22:30] <Pegasi_Tristan> Kwandrie: I have pssibly the same prob...I intend to help out untill I drop, I guess.
[22:30] <Nightbird> If you don't mind my asking, what is wrong with your health?
[22:30] <kwandrie> fibromyalgia, lung disease, and so on
[22:31] <kwandrie> i do not on a daily basis have energy to clean house much less too much else
[22:31] <kwandrie> the fibro has been getting much worse
[22:31] <Nightbird> Have you heard of DR. Hulda Clark?
[22:31] <kwandrie> pegasi i guess i will do the same
[22:31] <kwandrie> nope
[22:31] <kwandrie> havenot heard of that dr
[22:32] <Nightbird> She has a book called "The Cure for All Diseases"..
[22:32] <kwandrie> my conscious wont hardly let me stop preparing, as i am sure someone will need it
[22:32] <Nightbird> she also has a website
[22:32] <kwandrie> oh yeah?
[22:32] <kwandrie> so what is the cure?
[22:32] <Nightbird> She speaks of Fibro
[22:32] <kwandrie> what is the website
[22:32] <Nightbird> she says all diseases are causes by parasites
[22:32] <WWWqWWW> Check the transcript to see how long I have been aware.
[22:33] <Nightbird> just a sec.. I had to reformat and lost the link.. I will do a search
[22:33] <kwandrie> oh, i have heard of her in an interview once then
[22:33] <kwandrie> never could find the website
[22:33] <kwandrie> is it under her name?
[22:33] <WWWqWWW> I'm using this Mirc 6.03 -- what's the trick to cutting URLs for pasting?
[22:34] <Nightbird> here you go, Kwandrie.. http://www.drclark.net/
[22:34] <kwandrie> i never have figured out a cut  past on mirc
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[22:34] <QueenVee> right click on the URL and it gives you the option to go to the site
[22:34] <kwandrie> ok, cool thanks bunch i will check it
[22:34] <Nightbird> Kwandrie.. just highlight it..
[22:34] <QueenVee> to copy text, click, drag, and highlight -- the highlihght disappears, but you've still copied it
[22:34] <kwandrie> does not work to highlight but can right click
[22:34] <kwandrie> to open it
[22:35] <Nightbird> found that out last night thanks to Lancer and Walt
[22:35] <Nightbird> OK..
[22:35] <kwandrie> well tried that many times and it has not worked for  me
[22:35] <Nightbird> works in mine if I copy it in "run" or on a web window address
[22:35] <kwandrie> if i try to righ click text in general on mirc it just brings up soemthing that says channelmodes
[22:36] <Nightbird> maybe a different program than this one
[22:36] <kwandrie> could be
[22:36] <fetus> kwandrie... select what you want to copy  and press "ctrl c"  and to paste it press "ctrl v"
[22:36] <Pegasi_Tristan> My family wants me to get a spinal tap and get tested for MS but I say 'no way' If I have it, i have it...no reason to dwell on it.
[22:36] <Nightbird> Kwandrie.. try highlighting it and then click start and click "run" from your computer
[22:36] <Nightbird> and paste it there then click OK
[22:37] <kwandrie> isn't there another way to test for it?
[22:37] <kwandrie> ok will try
[22:37] <Pegasi_Tristan> I think so, but that is the preffered method I think.
[22:37] <kwandrie> nope dont work
[22:37] <kwandrie> hmm
[22:37] <Nightbird> MS can be caused by Aspartame.. you don't drink diet sodas do you?
[22:37] <kwandrie> there may be tretments that will helpp in the long run pegasi
[22:37] <Pegasi_Tristan> No, no diet stuff...i read that somehwere though
[22:37] <kwandrie> that maybe need to be done early
[22:38] <kwandrie> ms can't be caused by aspartame
[22:38] <kwandrie> ms symptoms can
[22:38] <Nightbird> Aspartame is really bad for you.. wood alcohol and formaldhyde
[22:38] <kwandrie> all of the things they list about aspartame are the sypmtoms of that illness, not the illness
[22:38] <WWWqWWW> Ah, that's the trick -- the highlight disappears.  I'm running way behind but that's the beauty of chat. It can be asynchronus.
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[22:39] <kwandrie> do you know you get more formadhyde from an orange?
[22:39] <Pegasi_Tristan> I just have the early signs...tingling and stuff in the limbs. Could take years to develop. My sister has it, and once she was diagnosed, she went downhill fast...dont want that to happen to me.
[22:39] <kwandrie> while there are those people who have problems with it it is not what they say
[22:39] <kwandrie> i have that pegasi
[22:39] <kwandrie> mine is from lack of circulation from age
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[22:39] <Pegasi_Tristan> :(
[22:39] <kwandrie> if you  have it in your family it may be though
[22:40] <Nightbird> My mom is hooked on Crystal-light and has rhumatoid arthritus and tunnel vision forgot what that is called .. I have tried to get her to quit drinking it, but she won't
[22:40] <fetus> http://www.edibleplants.com/wepnut_frames.htm   edible plants and the nutritional content of them....mmmm dandilions!!
[22:40] <Pegasi_Tristan> My mind is still sharp though...and I consider that my greatest asset.
[22:40] <kwandrie> i use about 8 packets of equal a day and have since it was invented
[22:40] <QueenVee> great link, fetus. thanks.
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[22:40] <QueenVee> hello Tammy
[22:40] <kwandrie> i quit using it for a year and no chnge in my health and started doing research on it
[22:41] <fetus> np...im still trying to find a site with nice photographs
[22:41] <Tammy> Hi there Queen :O)
[22:41] <kwandrie> my mind is not sharp pegusi
[22:41] <Tammy> Hello all
[22:41] <yggdrasil> hi vryone
[22:41] <kwandrie> do you  have any tremors when you wake up?
[22:41] <Nightbird> Kwandrie.. they say it is cumulative in your system
[22:41] <kwandrie> hi tammy and yggdrasil
[22:41] <Tammy> whathappend to the rest of the webpage??
[22:42] <kwandrie> well it has cumulated in me for over 30 years
[22:42] <Tammy> Im sorry the chat room page?
[22:42] <QueenVee> Tammy: don't know what you're talking about....
[22:42] <kwandrie> i know a number of people who use itt with no problesm and have for as long as i have
[22:42] <Nightbird> I am happy for them... but will not use it myself
[22:43] <kwandrie> also the ms foundation says ms is not caused by aspartame
[22:43] <Nightbird> sugar is also very toxic..
[22:43] <kwandrie> i do know people who are allergic to it who get headaches or etc also
[22:43] <Tammy> well there was a small box next to this one with everyone who is in here, and you could send privite mess to them etc..
[22:43] <kwandrie> pegasi, do you  get tremors when you wake up?
[22:43] <Nightbird> and seizures
[22:44] <Pegasi_Tristan> Yes, sometimes..muscle twitches too
[22:44] <Pegasi_Tristan> no seizures, though
[22:44] <kwandrie> i have been getting some tremors fo rthe past year when i wke up and cant figure out what they are related to
[22:44] <Nightbird> that was for aspartame
[22:44] <fetus> Has anyone read about the universal poisinous plant test? Its easy and requires no equipment...
[22:45] <Tammy> Well good news here,  I know a few people who want to start community meetings
[22:45] <kwandrie> i use effexor which is an antidepressent and am wondering if that could be a side effect of it
[22:45] <humvee> ill bite
[22:45] <Pegasi_Tristan> heh, my eye used to wink without me doing it...used to drive me crazy.
[22:45] <kwandrie> also tke ultram sometimes for pain and w ondering if it is
[22:45] <WWWqWWW> KWA: that's interesting -- I've had serious tingling and it ain't heart disease -- guess I'll read up on fibro
[22:45] <Tammy> Maybe chemtrails
[22:45] <kwandrie> that would drive ya nuts
[22:45] <Nightbird> Well folks.. think I will go and get some sleep..
[22:45] <kwandrie> www, my tingling has to do with age, and circulation
[22:45] <kwandrie> not fibro
[22:45] <Nightbird> Love and Light to you all
[22:46] <Tammy> night Nightbird
[22:46] <kwandrie> well never know
[22:46] <Nightbird> goodnight
[22:46] <Pegasi_Tristan> sleep well, Night
[22:46] <humvee> what is the univ p p t?
[22:46] <Nightbird> thank you
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[22:46] <kwandrie> i have not been able to find anyone with similar symptoms to know wht my tremors may be
[22:46] <kwandrie> they are similar to the shivers when you are cold
[22:47] <kwandrie> only happens when i wake up suddenly like to the phone
[22:47] <fetus> http://www.aircav.com/survival/asch09/asch09p04.html   <---Universal Poisinous Plant Test...all it takes is time.
[22:47] <kwandrie> if it were me pegusi i would get tested for ms t hough if you t hink that is what you mmight have
[22:48] <kwandrie> maybe you do not want to know but your loved ones want to know what to expect and are worrried about you
[22:48] <Tammy> Queen, I got your email about networking with others, thanks so much
[22:48] <QueenVee> Tammy: np
[22:48] <Pegasi_Tristan> True, but the ps is only months away...the truth about is wont help things much.
[22:48] <QueenVee> now comes the hardwork of inputting all the listings....
[22:48] <Tammy> yes, thats true
[22:49] <kwandrie> well true, guess you could put it off at lest that long
[22:49] <kwandrie> if it d ont happen then get tested
[22:49] <Pegasi_Tristan> Reasonable
[22:49] <kwandrie> they may blow us up with nukes before then
[22:50] <Pegasi_Tristan> heh
[22:50] <Tammy> Queen, things seem to be looking up for me at last, start a new job tomorrow
[22:50] <kwandrie> good for you
[22:50] <Tammy> So I can start to buy things Ill need for after the shift
[22:50] <Pegasi_Tristan> I noticed Bush said that that military could take on N. Korea and Iraq...pretty smug, he is.
[22:50] <Tammy> TY KW
[22:50] <kwandrie> he is way toooo arrogant
[22:50] <fetus> http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/Mall/4992/medmain.html   <--this one has photos...a-z plants of north america..lots of info.
[22:51] <kwandrie> i figure it is just a bunch of bluff
[22:51] <kwandrie> cool thanks
[22:51] <kwandrie> qv, did nancy ever address the nesara issue?  i dida search and did not find it addressed
[22:52] <QueenVee> Tammy: you're the second person today who has told me that are starting a new job -- congrats
[22:52] <QueenVee> kwandrie: briefly recap the nesara issue for me again
[22:52] <fetus> can someone link me to the nesara webpage?
[22:52] <Tammy> Thank you Queen, Its about time
[22:52] <Tammy> Ive been looking for  several months
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[22:53] <Tammy> Anyone know of any settlements in SouthDakota??
[22:54] <Tammy> or maybe homesteaders
[22:54] <kwandrie> it is about a secret thing to overthrow us and go back to bill of rights and constitution
[22:55] <WWWqWWW> k qv I've caught up. Reading between the lines, you are not planning to relocate or else you can't. Is that right?  where are you currently located?
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[22:55] <kwandrie> that is not a good explaination
[22:55] <kwandrie> but you could checck it out yourself
[22:55] <kwandrie> www.fourwinds10.com
[22:55] <QueenVee> WWW: i relocated about a year ago. i'm in ontario canada.
[22:55] <kwandrie> also has a newsletter
[22:55] <kwandrie> under yahoo
[22:56] <Tammy> wow, Q, nice
[22:56] <kwandrie> there have been some interviews on the radio too
[22:57] <humvee> www.nesara.org/main/index.htm
[22:57] <fetus> ty
[22:58] <kwandrie> no, nesara.org is disinformation
[22:58] <kwandrie> it is not the right one
[22:58] <QueenVee> it is major whacko disinformation
[22:59] <QueenVee> the idea they are pushing -- that certain special people will escape the poleshift -- is dangerous and irresponsible
[22:59] <kwandrie> nesara has nothing at all to do with poleshift
[22:59] <Tammy> I got a tape from my brother-in-law, about the new Security co, w/Poindexter, anyone else hear the rradio show?
[22:59] <kwandrie> no
[22:59] <QueenVee> someone posted something from nesara on one of the poleshift sites the other day....
[23:00] <WWWqWWW> Guess that a pretty good location. Besides the weather can only improve in any Pole Shift (most likely). City or boondocks? Were you a Canadian to start with? Where did you relocate from?  
[23:00] <kwandrie> nancy ha
[23:01] <kwandrie> s never addressed it though has she?
[23:01] <kwandrie> just seems like a real big deal to do if we are going to have a shift or planet x
[23:01] <QueenVee> WWW: yes, im a canadian. moved from Toronto (my home of the last 20 years) to the London Ontario area (where i grew up)
[23:02] <QueenVee> kwandrie: addressed what?
[23:02] <fetus> qv: i was born in kingston and grew up (some of the way) in brockville.
[23:03] <kwandrie> addressed about nesara
[23:03] <QueenVee> what about nesara?
[23:03] <kwandrie> they claim the greys have a hand in it
[23:03] <Tammy> Queen; do you know of any good websites that give good info on relocation?
[23:03] <fetus> i miss the 1000 islands and boating on the river..
[23:03] <QueenVee> fetus: alright, Kingston; great town
[23:03] <kwandrie> well gotta run...nice talking to you all
[23:03] <QueenVee> home of Chez Piggy
[23:03] <kwandrie> bye
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[23:04] <Tammy> niteKwandrie
[23:04] <QueenVee> Tammy: what aspects of relocation?
[23:04] <Tammy> before shift, good for after shift
[23:04] <yggdrasil> queen any projects i could work on?
[23:04] <Pegasi_Tristan> I have to run off too...night night all :)
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[23:05] <QueenVee> yes, Tammy, hold on....
[23:05] <QueenVee> yggdrasil: what a trooper you are!
[23:05] <Tammy> thanks Queen
[23:06] <yggdrasil> yea well
[23:06] <QueenVee> Tammy: the ZT Safe Locations document: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[23:06] <Tammy> looked at a lot of maps, different folks have very diff views about after
[23:06] <QueenVee> yggdrasil: all of my graphics needs are met right now....
[23:06] <QueenVee> Tammy: go by ZT, it is the most accurate
[23:07] <ukuz_zzz> Helloooooo in here...   (oco)
[23:07] <QueenVee> hello ukuz
[23:07] <ukuz_zzz> Hi QV
[23:07] <ukuz_zzz> :)
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[23:07] <ukuz_zzz> are you havin fun yet?
[23:08] <ukuz_zzz> :]
[23:08] <Tammy> well goodnite all :O)
[23:08] <Tammy> see ya next time
[23:08] <ukuz_zzz> aloha
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[23:08] <fetus> http://www.herbalartsclearinghouse.com/primitive.cfm   <---good survival site with lots of info.
[23:09] <QueenVee> ukuz: not really. i'm feeling kinda cranky today.
[23:09] <ukuz_zzz> oh my
[23:09] <ukuz_zzz> hmmm....
[23:09] <QueenVee> great links, fetus: i'm collecting them for the website
[23:09] <fetus> nice
[23:10] <inkpen> good site
[23:10] <humvee> extended familly ere hav 2 cook the turkeys etc tomorrow so signing off 4 now bye
[23:10] <inkpen> gnight
[23:10] <fetus> night inkpen
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[23:11] <WWWqWWW> Yeah, I noticed.  :^)  different subject. I just finished cuting and psating the seeeion so I wounldn't lose the information but doesn't Mirc have any provision for keeping a log of the session?
[23:11] <fetus> i mean humvee :)
[23:11] <yggdrasil> i wish mirc had a search function for the channels
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[23:13] <yggdrasil> like i could find what i said or somethin
[23:13] <yggdrasil> 10 minutes ago
[23:13] <QueenVee> lol
[23:14] <fetus> !poof!.........(merry christmas everyone!!)
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[23:19] <ukuz_zzz> was that Santa?
[23:21] <ukuz_zzz> :->
[23:21] <WWWqWWW> Ah, Toronto   home of the CNE  That was great!
[23:22] <ukuz_zzz> My feet are so tired from walking the mallzzzzzz....  :|
[23:22] <QueenVee> would you believe i've never been to the CNE?
[23:22] <QueenVee> grrrrrrr, finally finished some html coding i was working on...... what aggravating shit....
[23:23] <yggdrasil> yes
[23:24] <inkpen> heh it is
[23:24] <QueenVee> think i'll have a nice cup of eggnog with vodka now...
[23:24] <inkpen> gatta have the then th nog :)
[23:24] <ukuz_zzz> *sweet*
[23:24] <yggdrasil> im drinking chot cherry wine
[23:24] <inkpen> makes me grog
[23:24] <WWWqWWW> Now, on that underground thing. You ought to let the US Government know. I'd be real surprised if that isn't what the Taos Hum and the Kokomo Hum are all about.
[23:25] <ukuz_zzz> :D
[23:25] <yggdrasil> i live near tous
[23:25] <yggdrasil> never heard it
[23:25] <yggdrasil> hum
[23:26] <QueenVee> WWW: do you even read ZetaTalk? ZT advises that underground bunkers will collapse -- including govt bunkers
[23:26] <yggdrasil> maybe one of these days ill get lucky
[23:26] <QueenVee> WWW: yes, it is well known that the govt are building installations there
[23:27] <QueenVee> the govt severely underestimates the severity of the coming poleshift
[23:27] <tenshu> i don't hear the Kokomo hum yet
[23:28] <tenshu> i just know i see like 2-3 planes a day going north .. where kokomo is
[23:28] <QueenVee> and now Cheney's building one in his backyard
[23:29] <WWWqWWW> One of the best things about the CNE is the food. Canada has all those different nationalities so there are lots of choices.
[23:29] <QueenVee> yep, that's us, multicultural
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[23:30] <QueenVee> hello Lejano -- what brings you to this room?
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[23:30] <johnnie5> hello
[23:30] <Lejano> Hi, I'm from Mexico....somebody speak Spanish?
[23:31] <inkpen> hey lejano and johnie
[23:31] <QueenVee> hello johnnie5 -- not seen you here before -- what brings you to this room?
[23:31] <Lejano> Quen bee hi
[23:31] <Lejano> I need information
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[23:31] <QueenVee> Lejano: i don't think so....
[23:31] <inkpen> hi darkstar
[23:31] <QueenVee> Lejano: what kind of information?
[23:31] <DarKStaR> hey
[23:32] <QueenVee> DarkStar: remind me where you're from again?
[23:32] <johnnie5> you have seen me here before. zetatalk bruoght me here. i'm a slow typer. bear with me please.
[23:32] <DarKStaR> montreal
[23:32] <QueenVee> ah, right
[23:32] <Lejano>  Queen Beefirst, tell tell me yourt  point of view about next May 15
[23:32] <DarKStaR> u ontario:)
[23:33] <DarKStaR> i miss nancy talk this week:(
[23:33] <QueenVee> Lejano: well, it's a big subject -- what aspect of it do you want my point of view on?
[23:34] <QueenVee> DarkStar: yes, ontario. the logs of the session are on our website, here: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8
[23:35] <ukuz_zzz> Think maybe Lejano would like to know if you think its going to be a dooms day scenario QV
[23:35] <Lejano> Queen vee there is a part of myself  that belive of what is going to happen......but  I'm not sure, are you?
[23:35] <QueenVee> i believe it is a very strong probability
[23:35] <QueenVee> and therefore i am seriously preparing for it
[23:36] <ukuz_zzz> QV, does that mean youre coming to Hawaii?
[23:36] <ukuz_zzz> ;)
[23:36] <ukuz_zzz> sorry, I had to ask...
[23:36] <QueenVee> ukuz: i would if i still looked good in my bathing suit....
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[23:37] <ukuz_zzz> nothing a tan cant fix, im sure...   :)
[23:37] <Lejano> Queen vee.....I live in Los Angeles....nobody belive on this and I don't like the idea of been the only one....do you understand? I want to go but I don't know where!
[23:38] <johnnie5> i believe it will happen for one reason. i am an avid astronomer and have been for many years. my night vision equipment and computer controlled telescope have seen the incoming planet.