Session Start: Thu Dec 26 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:07] <scooby-atwork> nite!!!!!!!!!
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[02:15] <Richard> hello
[02:16] <Richard> if you can read this will brb
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[02:21] <Richard> hello .... again
[02:23] <Richard> nobody home?
[02:24] <Richard> hmmmm ok ..... I'll try another time
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[03:05] <obany> hi
[03:05] <sotos> hello
[03:06] <obany> first time in this channel ??
[03:06] <sotos> yeah
[03:06] <sotos> no much talking here ee?
[03:08] <sotos> do you believe the shift is comming?????
[03:08] <obany> nah not at this time, more people talking in the debating channel
[03:08] <obany> yes sotos
[03:09] <sotos> I also believe !! I dont know why?
[03:09] <obany> a feeling, intution ?
[03:09] <sotos> yes!!!
[03:09] <sotos> where are you from?
[03:09] <obany> Netherlands
[03:10] <sotos> is it going to be bad there ?
[03:10] <sotos> I am from greece Athens
[03:10] <sotos> and I try to find a safe loc for my family
[03:12] <obany> sotos: looked here yet ?  http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm countries and places that are 'safe'  and not safe
[03:13] <sotos> Thank you !!
[03:14] <sotos> Do you think aliens will visit us as well????
[03:14] <obany> i believe so
[03:15] <obany> and i 'believe'  that people have contact too... that alien contact exists
[03:16] <sotos> I believe the same.
[03:16] <sotos> Is so terrible that pole shift is comming and the people doesn't know anything !!!
[03:17] <obany> i know .. and there are those who know about it... and don't take it serious
[03:18] <sotos> How old are you? I am 35
[03:18] <obany> 31
[03:18] <sotos> married?
[03:18] <obany> single
[03:18] <sotos> I have wife and 3 children
[03:19] <obany> ah
[03:19] <obany> hope you will find a good spot to relocate
[03:20] <sotos> I hope too
[03:20] <sotos> What will you do wher will you go?
[03:21] <obany> i will relocate in about 2 months ... Sweden
[03:21] <sotos> in what height?
[03:21] <obany> ?
[03:22] <sotos> I mean on hill? or lower
[03:22] <sotos> ?
[03:22] <obany> a higher elevation of course,
[03:23] <sotos> Sorry i am asking you those questions I try to help my self
[03:23] <sotos> and my family
[03:23] <obany> I understand that
[03:23] <sotos> You will use a cave or portable house or tent?
[03:26] <obany> not sure, probably a tent of some sort
[03:26] <sotos> I see..
[03:27] <sotos> At the url you give me are all plases safe !?
[03:27] <sotos> all places are safe?
[03:28] <obany> no no ... there are places that are not
[03:29] <sotos> so it name all the places and inside if they are safe?
[03:30] <obany> it are anwwers on questions of people if their place or countrie they want to go to is safe or not ... just look at it
[03:30] <obany> greece is not considered safe
[03:30] <sotos> ohh
[03:31] <sotos> I have to read it carefuly
[03:31] <sotos> where are all the others in the chat?
[03:32] <obany> busy i think ...
[03:36] <obany> well it won't be totaly unhabitable .. you still will be able to live in Greece for what i read here
[03:36] <sotos> do you think that the world will be again after the pole shift?
[03:36] <obany> yes
[03:36] <obany> . Greece will suffer under volcanic eruptions, but will not be totally uninhabitable. Tidal waves from the sloshing Mediterranean must be considered, especially along the shores and on islands, many of which may be overwashed entirely. We would advise those who want certainty of survival to move inland into the Alps, returning to their homelands only days after the shift.
[03:37] <sotos> Thats good I will move at olympus mountain
[03:37] <sotos> the highest in greece
[03:41] <sotos> The food and water is the difficult parts ee?
[03:41] <sotos> Is it possible to drink the rain-water?
[03:41] <obany> yes yes: have you seen this http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p50.htm
[03:42] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/Xtime/x00.htm
[03:43] <sotos> reading..
[03:48] <obany> k
[03:48] <sotos> I will study the urls you give me and I will join again the chat. I hope I will find you again here. By the way My name Is Sotos. yours?
[03:49] <obany> real name = Gerard
[03:49] <sotos> I hope to catch you late Gerard and thank you for everything
[03:50] <sotos> later i mean
[03:50] <obany> ok, no thnx talk to you later i think sotos
[03:50] <obany> bye
[03:50] <sotos> bye
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[04:50] <superzod> m
[04:57] <obany> n :P
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[04:58] <obany> hi
[04:58] <superzod> good morning obany
[04:58] <Mugada> G'day
[04:58] <superzod> How was Christmas for you
[04:59] <obany> for me not ended yet . but well fine so far
[04:59] <superzod> ok
[04:59] <obany> anyway food
[04:59] <superzod> Did you make it SPECIAL this year
[04:59] <obany> bbl
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[05:52] <rnthomas> Yawn, anyone awake out there?
[05:53] * obany is kinda
[05:54] <rnthomas> Coowel, there is life on boxing day...
[05:55] <rnthomas> Have you ever heard of Aton, and Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn, and the Phoenix Journals?
[05:55] <obany> not realy
[05:56] <rnthomas> Just got loaded down with a tonne of reading on all this stuff...
[05:58] <rnthomas> Santa also brought me a Hazlwood Video, and tonnes of audio tape on various related items...
[05:58] <rnthomas> I hope I'll be able to thru it all...
[05:58] <obany> aha
[05:58] <rnthomas> So OB, was Santa good to you?
[05:59] <obany> mmmm guess he was ... altough Santa didn't visit the house we live in heheheh :) he already came at the 5th of December by his Dutch name :P
[06:00] <rnthomas> Coowel, that's good to hear...
[06:00] <obany> heheheh :)
[06:01] <obany> but more and more people give gifts at x-mas over here in the Netherlands that is
[06:03] <obany> t were the Dutch settlers who brought St. Nicholas over to
[06:03] <obany> New Amsterdam - USA.
[06:03] <obany>  :)
[06:04] <rnthomas> Well, that works... I think I recall somethin like that...
[06:04] <obany> http://www.thehollandring.com/truestory.htm
[06:05] <obany> anyway i will return later
[06:05] <obany> bbl
[06:05] <obany> going to visit a friend now
[06:06] <rnthomas> Ok then, have a good one...
[06:06] <rnthomas> Happy holidays...
[06:06] <obany> thnx
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[06:13] <superzod_away> k
[06:14] <rnthomas> U must be a superzod?
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[06:41] <As> planet x
[06:43] <As> Can we see it?
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[07:04] <BUTTHEAD> what am i doing dead?
[07:04] <BUTTHEAD> uh...anybody tell me if i was getting stupider
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[08:08] <Dsarith> Good Morning all
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[08:15] <inside-revolution> HEY :)
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[08:24] <QueenVee> Happy Boxing Day, everyone
[08:24] <inside-revolution> Hello Lady :)
[08:25] <inside-revolution> Did Zetes send X-mas presents to us?
[08:25] <QueenVee> haha
[08:25] <inside-revolution> which is the adress of them?
[08:25] <inside-revolution> I would like to send them some presents
[08:25] <QueenVee> you can send them telepathically
[08:26] <QueenVee> what do you get the zeta who has everything?
[08:27] <inside-revolution> I send them love
[08:27] <QueenVee> ((((((excellent answer))))))
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[08:27] <QueenVee> even a zeta cannot have too much love
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[08:29] <Dsarith> Hi QV :-)
[08:29] <Dsarith> What is Boxing Day??
[08:29] <QueenVee> helo Dsarith
[08:29] <QueenVee> where do you live, Dsarith?
[08:30] <Dsarith> Dallas TX
[08:30] <QueenVee> you don't have Boxing Day there?
[08:30] <QueenVee> what do you call the day after Christmas?
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[08:30] <Dsarith> I dont think so, at least I never heard of it
[08:30] <Dsarith> Back to work day :-)
[08:31] <QueenVee> it's a holiday here
[08:31] <QueenVee> in Canada
[08:31] <Z--AC-log> Hi Greg here, logging the session in Atlantic City
[08:31] <QueenVee> AC: do Americans not have Boxing Day?
[08:32] <Z--AC-log> Not widely observed.
[08:32] <QueenVee> i didn't know that...
[08:32] <Dsarith> What is the meaning of Boxing Day?
[08:32] <QueenVee> then what do you call the sales that stores have after Xmas? They are Boxing Day Sales here
[08:33] <Dsarith> Ummm Clearance sales...:-)
[08:33] <QueenVee> Dsarith: here's an explanation of Boxing Day: http://www.craigmarlatt.com/craig/canada/symbols_facts&lists/boxing_day.html
[08:34] <QueenVee> Boxing Day originated in England in the middle of the nineteenth century under Queen Victoria. December 26th became a holiday as boxes were filled with gifts and money for servants and tradespeople.
[08:34] <QueenVee> Also, poor people carried empty boxes from door to door, and the boxes were soon filled with food, Christmas sweets, and money. Parents gave their children small gifts such as, oranges, handkerchiefs, and socks. People also placed old clothing that they didn't need anymore in boxes, and they were given to those in need.
[08:34] <QueenVee> Today, Boxing Day is a holiday in the United Kingdom, Canada, and many other Commonwealth nations. It is spent with family and friends at open gatherings with lots of food, fun, and the sharing of friendship and love.
[08:34] <QueenVee> While government buildings and small businesses are closed, the malls are filled with people either exchanging gifts or buying reduced priced Christmas gifts, cards, and decorations.
[08:34] <QueenVee> Throughout the Christmas season, many organizations follow the original tradition of Boxing Day by donating their time, energy, and money to fill the Food Bank, provide gifts for children who live in poverty, or to help an individual family who is in great need at the time.
[08:34] <QueenVee> end of quote
[08:35] <Dsarith> Thank you
[08:35] <Dsarith> I have learned something new
[08:35] <QueenVee> my mother is so funny....
[08:36] <QueenVee> during this conversation i asked her "Do Americans have Boxing Day"?
[08:36] <QueenVee> She said, oh, yes, sure they do
[08:36] <QueenVee> then you guys told me you didn't, and i told her that...
[08:36] <QueenVee> and she said "Well, they don't have electric tea kettles, so nothing surprises me....
[08:37] <QueenVee> "lol
[08:37] <Dsarith> Its not observed here that I know of
[08:37] <Dsarith> lol
[08:37] <Dsarith> Hey we do too and I have one!!!
[08:37] <Dsarith> lol
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[08:37] <fetus> morning!
[08:37] <Dsarith> Well, I think its considered a tea kettle
[08:38] <QueenVee> my mother tried to buy an electric tea kettle when visiting relatives in Pittsburg, and couldn't find one anywhere, and now she is convinced that they don't exist in the US....
[08:38] <Dsarith> Morning Fetus
[08:38] <QueenVee> hi fetus! happy boxing day!
[08:38] <Dsarith> Thats up north... They dont count
[08:38] <Dsarith> :-)
[08:38] <QueenVee> (fetus is Canadian, he knows what Boxing Day is)
[08:38] <fetus> ah boxing day
[08:38] <fetus> :)
[08:38] <QueenVee> fetus: do you know they don't have boxing day in the US?
[08:38] <fetus> wha?!
[08:38] <QueenVee> i know, i was surprised too
[08:39] <fetus> its the day you put on the boxing gloves and head for the mall dont you know!
[08:39] <QueenVee> LOL!!!
[08:39] <Dsarith> I went up north on business and asked for tea.. They brought me hot tea, I said no ice tea. They gave me the a look like I was out of my mind
[08:39] <QueenVee> for the Boxing Day sales!
[08:39] <fetus> you bet
[08:39] <QueenVee> Dsarith: that would greet you in Canada as well
[08:39] <Dsarith> NO!!! Everyone should have ice tea
[08:39] <fetus> got a good comic strip my friend did hold on ill get the link..
[08:39] <QueenVee> i tell people the story of when i was in Kentucky and ordered tea and the crazy loons brought me iced tea....
[08:40] <Dsarith> Here in the south, there is only one true way of serving tea
[08:40] <Dsarith> The colder the better!
[08:42] <fetus> http://www3.telus.net/fetus/15-modern-x-mas.gif    check it out...
[08:43] <QueenVee> we like our tea hot -- the hotter the better
[08:44] <QueenVee> fetus: very twisted, i like it
[08:44] <fetus> yes
[08:45] <QueenVee> in canada, people usually have two christmas dinners -- one on Christmas and one on Boxing Day -- a way to split things between the in-laws....
[08:45] <fetus> one one christmas eve and christmas day for me...today is leftover day
[08:45] <QueenVee> yeah, there's that way too
[08:46] <Dsarith> Most people I know have there dinners on christmas eve and christmas
[08:46] <QueenVee> we are going to dinner at my uncle's today
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[08:47] <QueenVee> hey ukuz
[08:48] <QueenVee> i would wish you a Happy Boxing Day, but i understand Americans do not celebrate it
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[08:49] <reticuli> hi
[08:49] <QueenVee> hello reticuli! Happy Day After Christmas!
[08:49] <reticuli> happy boxing day
[08:50] <QueenVee> hey! you know Boxing Day!
[08:50] <QueenVee> i'm told it is not celebrated in the US
[08:50] <reticuli> lol, I havent the faintest idea besides I have always seen it on my calendar as a canadian holiday
[08:50] <QueenVee> lol
[08:51] <QueenVee> well, here's an explanation of it: http://www.craigmarlatt.com/craig/canada/symbols_facts&lists/boxing_day.html
[08:51] <QueenVee> reticuli: do you know what an electric tea kettle is, do you own one?
[08:52] <reticuli> yes, I know what it is, and no, I dont have one
[08:52] <reticuli> sounds like a nice holiday
[08:52] <QueenVee> how do most Americans make coffee at home?
[08:52] <QueenVee> and tea?
[08:53] <QueenVee> how do they boil the water?
[08:53] <reticuli> coffee: with those ridiculous Mr. Coffee machines and tea is from the bag
[08:53] <QueenVee> but how do you boil the water for the tea?
[08:53] <reticuli> I always boil the water fopr tea in a kettle
[08:53] <reticuli> on the stove
[08:54] <raincity> a lot of people microwave.
[08:54] <QueenVee> electric tea kettles (actually electric water-boilers) are ubiquitous here
[08:54] <reticuli> I use a french press for coffee, boil the water in a kettle
[08:54] <reticuli> I used to have one in college, when I lived in the dorm
[08:54] <QueenVee> i don't like them, personally, and i use a kettle on the stove, which friends and family consider "quaint"
[08:54] <reticuli> an electric kettle
[08:55] <reticuli> lol
[08:55] <reticuli> will you try and send me that sylvia brown interview again?
[08:55] <reticuli> r u gonna be online for awhile?
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[08:57] <reticuli> I prefer tea to coffee
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[08:58] <QueenVee> reticuli: i'll start sending the first file now, but i can't guarantee i'll be here to send the second one; have to go to my uncle's soon
[08:58] <QueenVee> but i leave my computer on....
[08:58] <reticuli> cool, thanks
[08:59] <QueenVee> oh, my mother tells me she's going to do a load of washing first..... so should be ok
[08:59] <reticuli> I have a feeling I should listen to this program
[08:59] <reticuli> not sure why
[08:59] <QueenVee> it's compelling
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[09:01] <reticuli> you should put up an audio section on your website to stream px related interviews
[09:01] <QueenVee> ret: yep, working on it, one thing at a time
[09:01] <reticuli> :)
[09:01] <QueenVee> getting the "NETWORK WITH OTHERS' section going right now
[09:02] <reticuli> right
[09:02] <QueenVee> i need a full-time staff
[09:02] <reticuli> im sure you could put them to work
[09:02] <reticuli> ;)
[09:03] <QueenVee> haha
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[09:16] <reticuli> damm it
[09:16] <reticuli> I have to shut down again!!!
[09:16] <QueenVee> bummer
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[09:17] <QueenVee> hi cmell
[09:17] <QueenVee> what do you call the day after Christmas in Denmark?
[09:17] <cmell> hi
[09:17] <cmell> 1. st christmas day
[09:18] <cmell> but today is 1.nd christmas day
[09:18] <cmell> 2
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[09:18] <QueenVee> so, today is the second day of Christmas, as in the 12 days of christmas....?
[09:18] <cmell> yes
[09:18] <QueenVee> is it a holiday in denmark?
[09:19] <cmell> yes
[09:19] <cmell> but tomorrow is not
[09:19] <QueenVee> in the British Commonwealth (including Canada), today is called Boxing Day, and it is also a holiday
[09:19] <cmell> why boxing ?
[09:19] <QueenVee> but it is not a holiday in the US, and does not have a name
[09:20] <QueenVee> cmell: here's an explanation of the origin of the holiday: http://www.craigmarlatt.com/craig/canada/symbols_facts&lists/boxing_day.html
[09:20] <cmell> ok thx
[09:20] <cmell> just sec
[09:21] <cmell> back
[09:22] <cmell> is there anyone else active  now ?
[09:23] <QueenVee> you mean talking here?
[09:23] <cmell> yes
[09:23] <QueenVee> lemme check: ANYBODY HERE OTHER THAN ME AND CMELL?
[09:24] <cmell> hhmm
[09:28] <cmell> I have to reboot :(
[09:28] <cmell> brb
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[09:35] <QueenVee> hello obany
[09:35] <QueenVee> is today a holiday in the netherlands, and if so, what do you call it?
[09:36] <obany> second day of x-mas
[09:36] <obany> 2de kerstdag
[09:36] <obany> tweede kerstdag
[09:36] <cmell> thats the same as in denmark
[09:36] <QueenVee> this seems to be the tradition in Europe....
[09:36] <cmell> yes
[09:38] <obany> moment
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[09:39] <QueenVee> hello sotos -- what brings you to this room?
[09:39] <sotos> hello all
[09:39] <cmell> hi
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[09:40] <sotos> I need your oppinion about the pole shift
[09:40] <obany> and in the Canada only 1?
[09:40] <obany> hi sotos
[09:40] <obany> wb
[09:40] <obany> QueenVee: i spoke to sotos earlier on
[09:40] <sotos> hi Gerard
[09:40] <QueenVee> obany: in canada and the british commonwealth today is a holiday called Boxing Day
[09:41] <QueenVee> sotos: opinion about what aspect of the poleshift?
[09:41] <obany> ah, that's why i heard that term ... boxing day ....
[09:41] <sotos> safe places
[09:41] <QueenVee> where do you live?
[09:41] <sotos> Athens
[09:42] <obany> did you read the link i gave you earlier on sotos?
[09:42] <sotos> yes
[09:42] <sotos> but  are not very helpfull I think
[09:42] <QueenVee> well, there are no 'SAFE' places
[09:42] <QueenVee> but some are less dangerous than others
[09:43] <QueenVee> well, what did you specifically want to know that you did not find in the Safe Locations document?
[09:43] <cmell> true
[09:44] <sotos> Where to move to?
[09:44] <sotos> underground?
[09:44] <sotos> above
[09:44] <sotos> underwater?
[09:44] <QueenVee> sotos: no, not underground, and not in caves -- they will collapse.
[09:45] <cmell> part underground a trench of sorts
[09:45] <obany> sotos: there is info here also http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p00.htm
[09:45] <cmell> perhaps
[09:45] <QueenVee> extensive information on basic preparations is available on the www.zetatalk.com site.... under the POLESHIFT section
[09:45] <QueenVee> ZT recommends a shallow trench covered by a secure metal cover
[09:45] <QueenVee> during the hour of the poleshift itself
[09:45] <QueenVee> except if you are in an area which will be flooded, in which case there is no shelter that can save you
[09:46] <QueenVee> sotos: you have to read the safe locations document to figure out what the nearest safe place is to you
[09:47] <sotos> before 10 minutes I search in google about 2003 pole shift and I found many sites that saying that the pole shift is not true story.!!  What they try to do?
[09:47] <QueenVee> sotos: every has to decide for themselves whether the poleshift will happen or not
[09:48] <QueenVee> some do not want to accept it
[09:48] <sotos> Sientific people say it exist? or not?
[09:48] <QueenVee> you have to read the material available and decide for yourself
[09:48] <QueenVee> some do and some don't
[09:48] <sotos> I all ready read them but is very confusing
[09:49] <obany> some are just well trying to debunk
[09:49] <sotos> I believe so
[09:51] <obany> QueenVee: i even found some Belgian Roman Katholic site with so called prophecies ... more about religion etc, but they also kinda mention well 2003 and they even did put a text on because they found info on the web about Planet X returning in 2003 and that it might be the comet of the great warning or so ... i am not into religious mumbo jumbo about the pope etc .. but still
[09:52] <QueenVee> yes, info from all over
[09:58] <sotos> It seems that many people don't have the kind of sense to understand (feel) or to accept big changes. Including some sort minded sientists.  
[09:58] <QueenVee> sotos: yes, but that has always been so
[09:59] <cmell> yes :(
[10:00] <sotos> Guys I have to tell you something I have notished the last 6-7 months..
[10:01] <cmell> but scientists are bought/owned by capital
[10:02] <QueenVee> yes, that's a well known fact
[10:02] <sotos> I leave in an area where the neighboars have 2-3 dogs each. So every periodic time all dogs (every single dog) cry loud and for lond time it is so scary!!
[10:03] <QueenVee> when did that start?
[10:03] <sotos> and that hapent every time the earthqaqe will come
[10:03] <cmell> yes, thats something a lot of pets will do before a quake
[10:03] <QueenVee> yes, very true
[10:03] <QueenVee> they sense earthchanges
[10:04] <QueenVee> pressure systems
[10:04] <sotos> yes but that crying is terrible!! you should hear it..
[10:05] <cmell> I live in a no quake zone, sorry :)
[10:06] <sotos> and I also read about the giant frogs.!!!
[10:06] <QueenVee> what do the locals say and think about it?
[10:06] <cmell> giant frogs ?
[10:06] <sotos> They can't understand. I already discuss that with the neibours
[10:07] <sotos> yes frogs like cats in size. Have you see any?
[10:07] <cmell> arent they called bullfrogs ?
[10:07] <QueenVee> sotos: the older people in the neighbourhood, have they ever heard the animals act that way before?
[10:07] <sotos> yes!!
[10:07] <sotos> no
[10:08] <sotos> no
[10:08] <sotos> is very new
[10:08] <QueenVee> the animals are calling out a warning
[10:08] <cmell> have you had a lot af quakes in the last 6-7 months ??
[10:08] <QueenVee> Greece has had a number of quakes of late
[10:09] <sotos> yes many
[10:09] <cmell> yes, but half a year
[10:09] <sotos> this morning feel a small one
[10:09] <cmell> ok
[10:09] <QueenVee> cmell: yes, in the last few months
[10:10] <cmell> I live several thousand km's away so who am I to question that :), sorry
[10:11] <sotos> Greece is very unstable
[10:11] <cmell> yes lies in a faultzone
[10:14] <QueenVee> obany: don't you find it funny how the debunkers keep complaining about the "weather reports" on the TT forums -- as though the weather were completely unrelated...?
[10:18] <cmell> I guess obany isn't here right now :(
[10:19] <obany> Yes i find it funn and it's not only the weather, still tremors in England ... 2 vulcanos in russia
[10:19] <obany> i am
[10:19] <cmell> oh sorry :)
[10:19] <obany> people just don't want to look at the bigger picture
[10:20] <cmell> what about US warmongering :(
[10:20] <QueenVee> they just want to obssess over the pics and whether or not the zetas know which Beatle is which....
[10:22] <obany> i know, they just don't want to see the signs
[10:22] <QueenVee> sotos: we are very pleased to have you here, so you can give us updates on what is happening in your country
[10:23] <sotos> yes !! I will
[10:23] <QueenVee> i would like to put you on our mailing list for announcements about ZT chats in this channel, new features on our website, etc -- if that is ok with you, just give me your email address on a private channel
[10:24] <QueenVee> with the powers that be suppressing a lot of the evidence of the coming poleshift, a lot of evidence will be anecdotally relayed through PX-related sites and chatrooms....
[10:25] <QueenVee> Thanks, sotos. do you know about our website: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[10:26] <QueenVee> i would be very pleased if you want to send me news from Greece, related to PX and the poleshift.....
[10:26] <sotos> Yes I first visited today
[10:27] <sotos> I will. can I use the email of the site?
[10:27] <QueenVee> yes, that is my email address: queenvee59@hotmail.com
[10:28] <sotos> I will sent you whether reports and all I can find suspisius... sory for my bad english
[10:29] <cmell> np :)
[10:29] <QueenVee> sotos: no problem
[10:30] <QueenVee> sotos: if you have news reports in greek, perhaps you can give me a brief summary in English, so that i can try and find an english-language report on the event
[10:30] <cmell> or use babelfish
[10:30] <QueenVee> lol
[10:30] <cmell> on altavista
[10:31] <sotos> I will even record the voices of the dogs... you shuld hear that really unusual and histerical crying
[10:31] <QueenVee> that turns out some very weird English
[10:31] <cmell> yes, I know but better than nothing :) hehe
[10:32] <QueenVee> i loved the translation that kept referred to nancy as NANCY SONG (Leider means song in german)....
[10:32] <cmell> haha
[10:33] <QueenVee> the NOAA is predicting some big storms on the US west coast....
[10:33] <obany> but it's Lieder and not Leider :)
[10:33] <obany> but i know Lieder
[10:33] <QueenVee> yes, typeo, obny
[10:33] <obany> k
[10:33] <QueenVee> lol -- i wrote typo with a typo
[10:33] <cmell> it seems like  north america is getting a lot of bad weather
[10:34] <QueenVee> well, i have to get ready to go to my uncles for dinner now....
[10:34] <QueenVee> will see you all later
[10:34] <obany> Yes, one of the dutch words for songs is also "lied"  and a small song "liedje"
[10:34] <cmell> later
[10:34] <cmell> just like liedchen
[10:34] <QueenVee> check out the bunch of new stories i just posted on our website: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[10:34] <QueenVee> there will be a quiz when i return
[10:34] <cmell> I'm in the process
[10:34] <QueenVee> ;-)
[10:34] <cmell> heh
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[10:48] <obany> brb
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[10:57] <cmell> hi kay4d
[10:57] <cmell> sorry kayt4d
[10:57] <kayt4d> hi
[10:57] <cmell> what brings you here ?
[10:59] <kayt4d> I have been looking at pole shift/planet X info for a while now.... just thought I'd pop in and see what others say
[10:59] <cmell> ok, what do you think
[11:00] <cmell> do you believe or not ?
[11:00] <kayt4d> definitely
[11:00] <kayt4d> gaining the knowledge filled a 'void'
[11:01] <cmell> you caught us in a slow moment :(
[11:01] <cmell> but ask away
[11:01] <kayt4d> no prob
[11:01] <kayt4d> I don't have any questions at the moment
[11:01] <kayt4d> Just exploring
[11:02] <cmell> ok, be sure to visit on saturdays
[11:02] <obany> bbl
[11:02] <kayt4d> any particular time of day?
[11:02] <kayt4d> I work every Sat morning
[11:02] <cmell> well things are just right about 1900 utc
[11:03] <kayt4d> ok thanks much
[11:03] <cmell> np
[11:03] <kayt4d> bye for now
[11:03] <cmell> later
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[11:04] <cmell> hello reticuli
[11:04] <reticuli> yo
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[11:06] <cmell> did you have a nice christmas ?
[11:07] <reticuli> it was allright
[11:07] <reticuli> you?
[11:07] <cmell> ok
[11:08] <cmell> can't wait till newyear though, with friends :)
[11:09] <cmell> you know there is always problems in families :(
[11:09] <reticuli> yeah, its the nature of the beast
[11:09] <cmell> heh
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[11:27] <reticuli> hi
[11:28] <nneka> hellohello,culi
[11:29] <nneka> i'm sorry,reticuli
[11:30] <nneka> are you new to this chat room?
[11:31] <reticuli> nope, I have been here a long time, since the start
[11:31] <reticuli> been on vacation
[11:32] <reticuli> where do you live?
[11:33] <nneka> new york
[11:33] <nneka> city
[11:35] <reticuli> seattle
[11:36] <nneka> i am new .do you plan to relocate
[11:37] <reticuli> no, unless there is clear and unambiguous proof that its coming. if thats the case I may take an extended "camping trip"
[11:38] <nneka> seattle is close to a volcano?
[11:38] <reticuli> yes, many of them
[11:38] <nneka> are down wind
[11:38] <reticuli> seattle is a poleshift death trap
[11:39] <nneka> yes.i guess so
[11:39] <reticuli> it depends on the direction of the wind
[11:40] <nneka> what shelter do you plan to camp in?
[11:40] <reticuli> dont have any plans
[11:41] <reticuli> prolly will buy a shipping container and bury it
[11:42] <reticuli> http://seattle.about.com/library/gallery/blphotoWAsea5.htm
[11:42] <reticuli> mt ranier (volcano) in background
[11:45] <reticuli> what will you do?
[11:45] <sotos> hello to all
[11:46] <nneka> thanks        i  have just moved to new york and i am planning to move to one of themidwest states.
[11:46] <reticuli> when?
[11:46] <reticuli> then you will have to worry about prion disease, allthough I suppose its only a matter of time bf its everywhere
[11:47] <reticuli> bf= before
[11:48] <nneka> i dont know.what is prion disease?
[11:48] <reticuli> it will be the death of us all
[11:49] <reticuli> http://www.cjdsurveillance.com/prion.html
[11:49] <nneka> i dont understand
[11:49] <reticuli> http://www.mad-cow.org/
[11:50] <reticuli> http://unisci.com/stories/20013/0816012.htm
[11:50] <reticuli> hi sotos
[11:50] <sotos> hi
[11:51] <sotos> I wanted to give you a very intresting link... http://www.cosmictribune.org/pnw.htm
[11:52] <sotos> notice the fish rain on the mountains in Greece
[11:52] <sotos> very weird
[11:53] <sotos> It is quite clear that many topics are suspisus
[11:54] <sotos> and can linked with the 2003 ps
[11:55] <reticuli> what? the fish?
[11:55] <sotos> It's Raining Fish In Greece
[11:55] <sotos> Dec. 11 2002    IOL
[11:55] <sotos> Athens - A shower of tiny fish rained down on the village of Korona in the mountains of northern Greece late on Tuesday, Greek television reported on Wednesday, attributing the incident to a mini-tornado. Villagers discovered the unexpected catch on the banks of Lake Doirani, which lies on the Greek border with the former Yugoslav republic of Macedonia, following a spell of rough weather.
[11:55] <reticuli> 'flying fish'
[11:56] <sotos> :)
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[11:58] <reticuli> hi alex
[11:59] <Dsarith> Hi Alex
[12:00] <alex> hi
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[12:08] <reticuli> hello
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[12:13] <sotos> see you later all..
[12:13] <sotos> bye
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[12:19] <Red> Hey nneka
[12:19] <nneka> hi red
[12:19] <Red> how goes it?    doesn't seem to be much chat going on here...
[12:20] <nneka> where do you live RED?
[12:20] <Red> I'm in Alberta, Canada,  you?
[12:20] <nneka> are you new to this chat room?
[12:21] <Red> no but I have been afk for a couple weeks...   been here on and off a couple months I guess
[12:22] <Red> have you been a PX watcher for some time?
[12:23] <nneka> i'm new ,so i guess i'm kicked off once in a while.iam watching px for about a year.
[12:24] <Red> kicked off??  heh   Me too...  got reading some of the zeta stuff just over a year ago
[12:26] <nneka> i believe much of the info.i'm trying find a safe location and i have just moved to new york city
[12:27] <Red> NYC?   Interesting place to be for sure...
[12:28] <Red> I guess I am lucky in that AB is a relatively safe place for the shift
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[12:30] <nneka> yes very dongerous.too crowded and high crime and coastal
[12:30] <Red> indeed....   what precipitated the move there?
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[12:30] <Red> Hiya timmie
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[12:32] <Red> hey tied2, how goes it?
[12:32] <nneka> i,m from the caribbean and i had to get on the mainland
[12:32] <tied2> fine and dandy
[12:32] <Red> sounds like you have had some nasty weather there too
[12:33] <Red> here its crazy... real warm and no snow
[12:34] <nneka> yes volcanoes,hurricanes,droughts,and we are in the earthquake belt
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[12:39] <nneka> i guess i'm kicked off
[12:39] <Red> how do you mean?
[12:39] <nneka> oh 'no
[12:40] <Red> it just gets quiet here sometimes
[12:40] <nneka> everybody is so quiet
[12:40] <Red> yeah I think multitasking and watching the chat for something interesting to come up
[12:41] <Red> so nneka, are you making plans, preparing in any way?
[12:44] <nneka> yes,i'm mentally prepared but i'm seeking a job to move to one of the mid western states
[12:45] <Red> good thinking I'd say...
[12:45] <nneka> thanks
[12:47] <Red> well, I should be off again   nice to meet you nneka.  
[12:47] * Red waves see ya later
[12:47] <nneka> what are you doing in terms of prep.bye
[12:47] <reticuli> "prep.bye"?
[12:47] <Red> me... so far much like you... looking at options and getting some supplies and equipment together
[12:49] <Red> nothing real hard core... I guess I am still a bit on the fence
[12:49] <Red> anyway, gotta run, will chat with you again I am sure
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[12:53] <nneka> are you still there tied2
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[12:59] <Ogmios> hi
[12:59] <reticuli> hi there
[12:59] <Dsarith> HI Ogmios
[13:00] <Ogmios> Jimi Hendrix - All Along The Watchtower
[13:00] <reticuli> seattles famous son
[13:00] <Ogmios> yes
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[13:01] <reticuli> how is the weather in finland?
[13:02] <Ogmios> xmas eve was cold
[13:02] <Ogmios> -22
[13:02] <Ogmios> Celsius
[13:02] <reticuli> thats cold
[13:02] <Dsarith> That is cold :-)
[13:02] <Ogmios> but yesterday only -3
[13:03] <Ogmios> today about same
[13:03] <Dsarith> Once you get in the minus, does it matter?
[13:03] <Ogmios> yes!
[13:03] <Dsarith> lol... I suppose it does
[13:03] <Ogmios> 0C feels very warm actually
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[13:05] <reticuli> have you'all heard of prions?
[13:06] <QueenVee> prions?
[13:06] <reticuli> yes
[13:06] <QueenVee> nope
[13:06] <Dsarith> Yes, just read on up on it :-)
[13:07] <reticuli> queen, they cause scrapie, alzheimers, mad cow diseae
[13:07] <QueenVee> virus?
[13:07] <reticuli> its a new form of "life" a protein of sorts, it cannot be killed
[13:07] <Ogmios> hmmm danish ppl say that santa lives in greenland
[13:07] <QueenVee> mmm
[13:07] <reticuli> you can get it from surgical instrruements
[13:07] <reticuli> saliva
[13:08] <Ogmios> finnish ppl say santa lives here..lappland
[13:08] <tied2> nneks yes I'm just reading
[13:09] <tied2> nneka
[13:09] <reticuli> http://www.rense.com/general32/beef.htm
[13:10] <reticuli> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/madcow/prions.html
[13:11] <reticuli> http://www.cjdsurveillance.com/
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[13:13] <QueenVee> hello Toni
[13:13] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room?
[13:14] <QueenVee> reticuli: interesting subject....
[13:14] <QueenVee> thanks for those links
[13:14] <reticuli> np, I have been follwoing it for awhile
[13:14] <QueenVee> Toni: ARE YOU THERE?
[13:15] <reticuli> most "abductees" who have seen mutilations have been told that the et's are monitoring something in the food chain
[13:15] <QueenVee> yes, makes sense
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[13:16] <tied2> has everyone consdiered some kind of rain wear?
[13:17] <reticuli> seattlites dont need rain gear
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[13:17] <QueenVee> hello tengo
[13:17] <tengo> hello queen
[13:17] <tengo> i was wondering
[13:17] <obany> talked about it with a friend of mine ... rain waer and it seems well logical to me for the time after the pole shift
[13:17] <QueenVee> Hello Guru -- what brings you to this room?
[13:17] <obany> with the humidity and the drizzle
[13:17] <tengo> before may 2003
[13:17] <GuRu> tengo
[13:17] <tengo> should i install a 2nd basement to hide from planet X
[13:17] <tengo> where i can store canned foods
[13:18] <GuRu> QueenVee what is involved in this room
[13:18] <tengo> with aluminum sidings
[13:18] <tied2> it's just a subject that gets passed over alot
[13:18] <QueenVee> tengo: for storage, but not for protection during the shift itself
[13:18] <reticuli> j/k tied
[13:18] <QueenVee> Guru: For those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. Those curious/undecided/not preparing should visit www.zetatalk.com for basic info & #EarthChanges for more general Poleshift/PX chat.'
[13:18] <tengo> queen
[13:19] <tengo> what should i do to prepare
[13:19] <tengo> for the poleshift
[13:19] <tengo> will i die
[13:19] <GuRu> what is so special about zetatalk
[13:19] <GuRu> that makes you believe in it
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[13:19] <QueenVee> hello Diabow -- what brings you to this room?
[13:19] <GuRu> queenvee, i have never heard of zetatalk
[13:19] <GuRu> sorry
[13:19] <GuRu> if i insulted you
[13:20] <GuRu> i was just asking
[13:20] <QueenVee> well, then you shouldn't be here
[13:20] <tengo> QueenVee, what should i do in preparation of the May 2003 PoleShift?
[13:20] <Diabow> queenvee.. i wanna know what is this place.
[13:20] <QueenVee> i just posted the qualifications for participating in this chat -- you don't qualify -- so please leave
[13:20] <reticuli> tengo, I would suggest preparing a will and making oeace with your maker
[13:20] <tengo> QueenVee, what should i do in preparation of the May 2003 PoleShift? (to stay alive)
[13:21] <tengo> my God you mean?
[13:21] <QueenVee> Diabow: This is the information that greets you when you enter the room: For those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. Those curious/undecided/not preparing should visit www.zetatalk.com for basic info & #EarthChanges for more general Poleshift/PX chat.'
[13:21] <GuRu> QueenVee..you're a fucking loser...I hope your whole online tribe fucking kills themself over this because you're the 2nd biggest bunch of fucking homosexuals I have met online.  Please have a colt and end your lives.
[13:21] <GuRu> Thank you.
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[13:21] <QueenVee> wow, hope that got his rocks off
[13:21] <reticuli> lol
[13:21] <tengo> ret: my God you mean?
[13:21] <reticuli> yes
[13:21] <tengo> ret are you muslim
[13:22] <QueenVee> tengo: there is lots of information on the www.zetatalk.site, in the POLESHIFT section, on the basics of how to prepare for the poleshift. why don't you start by reading that, then come back here if you have further questions
[13:23] <Diabow> how do u guys know we r gonna die in may 2003?
[13:23] <QueenVee> Diabow: for the second time: Those curious/undecided/not preparing should visit www.zetatalk.com for basic info & #EarthChanges for more general Poleshift/PX chat.'
[13:24] <obany> Diabow: if you prepare there is no reason to die ....
[13:24] <QueenVee> buh bye
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[13:24] <tengo> is anyone here a muslim
[13:24] <obany> !down
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[13:24] <QueenVee> hello Toni
[13:24] <obany> hi toni
[13:24] <obany> !up
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[13:24] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room, Toni?
[13:26] <QueenVee> Toni: if you are having trouble posting, try connecting to this room via the following page instead: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~jurian/chat/big.html
[13:26] <QueenVee> Toni: i'll disconnect you so that you can go and do that now
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[13:27] <QueenVee> hey zod
[13:27] <QueenVee> how's it going?
[13:28] <zod> Hi Queen
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[13:28] <zod> I am at my parent home getting my "last christmas" dinner together.  How are you doing
[13:28] <QueenVee> hello Psiwar -- what brings you to this room?
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[13:29] <zod> Opps..scared  im off :)
[13:29] <QueenVee> i'm good, just got back from my uncle's for Boxing Day dinner
[13:29] <obany> QueenVee: maybe she well just doing another thing for a moment, or should she well tell it, what is she had to go to the toilet :)
[13:29] <zod> Hey Queen do you know anything about Pendulum dowsing.  Does it work ?
[13:29] <obany> is=if
[13:29] <QueenVee> obany: this is the second time she came on and did not respond to questions
[13:30] <QueenVee> zod: it works for those who have "the gift"....
[13:30] <zod> I have been practing it of late.  I think it will come in handy in the comming monts  (determin if water is safe to drink etc)
[13:31] <QueenVee> so you've been practicing your ability to pick out pure water vs contaminated water?
[13:31] <QueenVee> how does one do that?
[13:32] <Dsarith> More importantly is, How does one knows if they have that gift?
[13:32] <zod> yes, i swing the water over a glass of "different" type of water, and I get a positive response of the water is good
[13:32] <QueenVee> where do you get the "bad" water from? what does it consist of?
[13:33] <zod> JUst suspend a pendulum over water. If it swings positve, its suppose to be good. If it swings negativem then its bad
[13:33] <Dsarith> Positive would be to the right?
[13:33] <Dsarith> Not familiar with this at all
[13:34] <zod> Bad water, I "purposely" pollute good water  (or get a friend to to do so, then I dowe to see if I get it right. I am accurate about 87% of the time)
[13:34] <zod> There is plenty of FREE pendulum stuff on the net.  it is worth while getting used to the tool
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[13:36] <Dsarith> I will check into it. Thanks for the information
[13:36] <zod> I find if I ask "spirit" for an answer, my accurracy increases more.  I woild love to ask NANCY/ZETA about pendulum dowsing.  Queen perhasps you could phase a question for this saturday session
[13:37] <QueenVee> lol -- why should i phrase it?
[13:37] <reticuli> lol
[13:37] <QueenVee> what do you want to ask about it?
[13:38] <zod> Well..something like "Could one use a Pendulum to determine if Water is Safe to drink or not", or "with pendulum downising could one determine where a safe location will be "
[13:38] <reticuli> depends on your skill
[13:38] <zod> Welll to be honest, I would like to confirm it is NOT just my imgaination playing tricks on me :)
[13:38] <QueenVee> i really wish you guys would be less lazy and learn to use the SEARCH function of the ZetaTalk site. Zt has already answered that question: http://www.zetatalk.com/beinghum/b70.htm
[13:39] <zod> Oh! Shame on me :).  I will check it out
[13:39] <obany> that's about dowsing a pendelum is something else for what i know queenvee
[13:41] <obany> ah
[13:42] <obany> moment i am confusing things
[13:42] <reticuli> yep
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[13:45] <zod> Sorry about that. I did not realise I got disconnected
[13:46] <zod> Did I misse any comments on the Pendulum downising techniqe=ues ?
[13:46] <QueenVee> nope
[13:46] <reticuli> negative
[13:47] <zod> Queen, could you ask NANCY/ZETA "If a person could use a Pendulum downsing technique to determine a safe location, if water.food is safe to eat etc"
[13:47] <reticuli> lol
[13:48] <zod> I read the article on downsing on Zetatalk, and its is slightgy different to pendulum dowsing
[13:48] <reticuli> zod, why dont you ask her?
[13:48] <zod> Queenn collects question for the POLESHIFTDISCUSSION session on saturdays
[13:49] <reticuli> zod do you believe that pendulum dowsing is effective?
[13:50] <reticuli> in general
[13:50] <zod> Yes, I have had upto 100% success (at times) with the pendulum.
[13:50] <reticuli> then why do you need to ask nancy/zetas
[13:50] <reticuli> ?
[13:50] <zod> SOmetimes it is lower.  I have been messing around with it for about 12 months now
[13:50] <reticuli> if it works it works
[13:51] <zod> I am curious to find outif its JUST my imagination,
[13:51] <QueenVee> zod: apply some logic. it's the same principle as dowsing, just a different instrument
[13:51] <zod> Or what is the REAL deal behind the phenonomem (Spelling)?)
[13:51] <reticuli> well if you have up to 100% success then its not your imagination
[13:51] <QueenVee> zod: you want someone to tell you if when YOU to the pendulum swing, if YOU have the gift -- and the zetas are not going to answer that question
[13:52] <reticuli> too personal
[13:52] <zod> Yeah..I understand Queen. I am curious to know what the Zetas would say about it. The technique mentioned on Zetatalk, seems to work because the BODY is tune into national watre(since the body is 90% water etc)
[13:52] <reticuli> besides, the only question I asked nancy had to do with a technical aspect of conscioussness to which she replied it was irrelevant
[13:52] <QueenVee> zod: same principle with the pendulum
[13:53] <zod> OK. no problem... thanks anyway
[13:53] <reticuli> well, first she she challenged me as to why it mattered, when I told her that i was interested she said it was irrelevant
[13:53] <reticuli> dont bug the zetas with trivial details :)
[13:54] <zod> Thanks Reticuli.  I will not consume time by asking it publicatically.
[13:54] <reticuli> well thats your business
[13:54] <reticuli> where do you live?
[13:54] <zod> London
[13:54] <reticuli> i live in seattle
[13:55] <zod> OK! great to meet you.
[13:55] <reticuli> you too
[13:55] <reticuli> what do you do in london?
[13:55] <zod> I am at my parent home.  I am heading home now.  Catch you all on saturday, perhasp sooner.
[13:56] <reticuli> live long and propser
[13:56] <zod> Sparks
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[13:58] <Dsarith> I will see you all tomorrow. Have a great Boxing Day :-)
[13:58] <QueenVee> bye
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[14:00] <raincity> Anyone here play Elder Scrolls 3?
[14:00] <obany> mmm ah "Boxing Day originated in England in the middle of the nineteenth century under Queen Victoria. December 26th became a holiday as boxes were filled with gifts and money for servants and tradespeople."
[14:00] <obany> now i know what boxing day stand for
[14:01] <QueenVee> there ya go
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[14:01] <obany> http://www.craigmarlatt.com/craig/canada/symbols_facts&lists/boxing_day.html
[14:01] <QueenVee> yeah, i posted that earlier, obany
[14:02] <obany> didn't read that as yet .. .. but well now i know...
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[14:05] <QueenVee> i was very surprised to learn that americans don't have the holiday
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[14:07] <raincity> I had never heard about it, until earlier today when it was mentioned here.
[14:07] <Ummite> Hello all
[14:08] <QueenVee> hello Ummite
[14:09] <Ummite> How r u?
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[14:11] <QueenVee> hello clue -- what brings you to this room?
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[14:13] <QueenVee> Clue? ARE YOU THERE?
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[14:14] <alex> thanks
[14:15] <alex> according to the new coardinates (or however u call it) the damage will be "lighter" in 40% right?
[14:16] <QueenVee> sorry, alex, i have no idea what the above sentence means
[14:16] <QueenVee> does anyone else know what he's asking?
[14:16] <reticuli> negative
[14:17] <alex> u don't know what i'm talking about or u don't understand what i've said?
[14:17] <reticuli> both
[14:17] <QueenVee> your sentence doesn't make sense
[14:17] <alex> maybe
[14:17] <alex> my english is bad i know
[14:18] <alex> wait
[14:20] <alex> have nancy turned out to be a lier?
[14:21] <QueenVee> why do you ask that question?
[14:21] <QueenVee> what do you think nancy has "lied" about?
[14:21] <alex> the magnitudes
[14:22] <QueenVee> not to my knowledge
[14:23] <alex> during one of the sessions here she addmited she lied about certain thing and said that it was "lie for our own best" right?
[14:23] <Ogmios> we dont call the 2:nd xmasday as boxing day here
[14:23] <QueenVee> alex: not to my knowledge
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[14:23] <Ogmios> its has no special name here
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[14:24] <alex> ok...but doe's she claim to have new information about the movment of the planet x?
[14:25] <QueenVee> Alex: This is a room to discuss preparation, not whether zetatalk is valid. Please go to #earthchanges for that kind of discussion.
[14:25] <alex> but they aren't serius there
[14:25] <QueenVee> alex: all of the latest information about PX is on the zetatalk website, under PLANET-X SIGHTINGS
[14:27] <alex> that's what i'm talking about...doe's - acording to the latest information about the planet damage from the poleshift will be lighter in 40% or so?
[14:27] <alex> that's what i'm talking about...doe's - acording to the latest information about the planet, the damage from the poleshift will be lighter in 40% or so?
[14:27] <QueenVee> alex: we only know what is posted on the site
[14:28] <alex> so u know that or not?
[14:29] <Ogmios> has S7l visited #tt or #zt now?
[14:29] <QueenVee> i've answered your question, alex
[14:29] <obany> Ogmios: no for what i know
[14:29] <QueenVee> ogmios: dunno, i haven't been there for a while
[14:29] <Ogmios> ok
[14:29] <obany> and the damage will be the same... no lighter then 40%
[14:30] <alex> but i havent read the latest info on the website, so i dunno
[14:30] <alex> oh
[14:30] <alex> "then 40%"? what does it mean????
[14:31] <QueenVee> wow, this is the first day in i don't know how long that there have been NO reported earthquakes of 5.0+ intensity
[14:31] <alex> "then"?
[14:32] <obany> <alex> that's what i'm talking about...doe's - acording to the latest information about the planet, the damage from the poleshift will be lighter in 40% or so?
[14:32] <obany> <QueenVee> alex: we only know what is posted on the site
[14:33] <alex> qv cant u answer?
[14:34] <obany> well did you read ZT, it says that it will be the worst pole shift since 50.000 years ..
[14:34] <alex> qv have u read all the logs from all the sessions that benn here?
[14:34] <obany> so i think that you understand what it means?
[14:35] <alex> yes but i got that info (about the 40%) from a diffrent source
[14:35] <QueenVee> ZT indicates that this shift will be worse than the previous one, but not as bad as some that occurred prior to that
[14:35] <QueenVee> alex: well, why didn't you say that?
[14:35] <QueenVee> what is the source?
[14:35] <obany> QueenVee: mmmmm not exactly
[14:35] <QueenVee> obany: no?
[14:36] <QueenVee> no, other way around, right? not as bad as the last one?
[14:36] <obany> "Human written and verbal history will not serve man well in preparation for the forthcoming pole shift, as a shift as devastating as this one will be has not occurred even within the past 50,000 years."
[14:36] <alex> how u spell that word "coardinates" (or something like that)
[14:37] <QueenVee> alex: what is the source of your information; if you give us that, we can read it for ourselves and maybe get an idea of what you are talking about
[14:37] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s72.htm
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[14:37] <QueenVee> thanks, obany. i stand corrected!
[14:38] <QueenVee> Obany beats a Queen every time
[14:38] <QueenVee> hello Boy
[14:38] <obany> :)
[14:38] <BoY> hell-o
[14:38] <alex> qv - very simple question: how can u be sure the nency lieder aren't lying out of her ass about sertain things (i dont say about all)??
[14:39] <QueenVee> alex: in future, DO NOT ask us to comment on information that you have gotten from another source unless you are prepared to give us a link to that source
[14:39] <alex> the source is weinstein
[14:39] <alex> k?
[14:39] <QueenVee> alex: you are the biggest jackass i have ever encountered here? have i not told you several times that that question is not up for discussion here?
[14:39] <alex> sorry
[14:39] <QueenVee> did i also not tell you to never mention weinstein and his alleged "information"" here again?
[14:39] <obany> alex: becasuse there are more sources hen zetatalk that say about the same
[14:39] <QueenVee> AND YOU WONDER WHY YOU KEEP GETTING KICKED AND BANNED?
[14:40] <alex> i waren't able to control myself from asking that
[14:40] <alex> i see
[14:40] <QueenVee> ALEX: YOU ARE NOW BEING PUT ON PERMANENT BAN AND IGNORE. PLEASE GO BUG THE PEOPLE IN #troubled_times and #earthchanges.
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[14:43] <QueenVee> hi cmell
[14:43] <cmell> hi
[14:44] <cmell> I just read what you said to alex
[14:44] <QueenVee> uh huh
[14:44] <cmell> I'll remember that
[14:44] <cmell> nick
[14:44] <QueenVee> remember what? i said alot of things to him
[14:45] <cmell> and .red.bezeqint.net
[14:45] <QueenVee> oh, i see. yes, do
[14:48] <cmell> any news ? :)
[14:48] <reticuli> i just had lunch
[14:48] <QueenVee> This just in from the BBC:
[14:48] <cmell> ah thats news where I come from :)
[14:49] <QueenVee> "Europe is considering sending humans to the Moon, Mars and beyond within the next few decades...."
[14:49] <QueenVee> somebody should let those guys in on the secret
[14:49] <reticuli> funny, I just read that :)
[14:49] <cmell> you said bbc
[14:49] <QueenVee> yes, bbc
[14:49] <obany> the website not the station
[14:49] <reticuli> i always read bbc at lunch
[14:49] <cmell> hehe
[14:50] <cmell> by Helen Briggs
[14:52] <cmell> hhmm stupid mission
[14:52] <reticuli> Im just imagining the french dining on wine and brie on the martian surface debating the value of declaring French the offcial language of mars
[14:52] <cmell> hehe
[14:52] <QueenVee> it's so quiet in my home right now -- my mother, dog, and cat are all napping....
[14:53] <QueenVee> it's never been so quiet
[14:53] <reticuli> sounds nice, I love quiet
[14:53] <cmell> isn't it good that your mother is napping :)
[14:53] <cmell> sorry
[14:53] <QueenVee> it's always good when my mother is napping
[14:53] <reticuli> lol
[14:54] <QueenVee> because it usually means she's not talking
[14:54] <reticuli> hehe
[14:54] <cmell> slap me plz, I shouldn't have said that !
[14:54] <reticuli> cmel, go pay someone to beat you
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[14:54] <cmell> haha
[14:54] <QueenVee> yeah, we don't do S&M here, at least not for free
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[14:55] <QueenVee> kinky
[14:55] <reticuli> #poleshiftbondage
[14:55] <cmell> sorry
[14:55] <QueenVee> lol
[14:55] <cmell> I thought I was out of line by asking !
[14:55] <QueenVee> i've never heard of a trout being used as a sex toy before
[14:55] <reticuli> ew
[14:56] <reticuli> http://www.madblast.com/view.cfm?type=FunFlash&display=1804
[14:57] <cmell> I don't even dare to look :(
[14:57] <QueenVee> no, i'm not going there....
[14:58] <reticuli> lol, its the Michael jackson cath the baby game
[14:58] <cmell> ah ok, must be funny
[15:00] <reticuli> catch the baby game.. hehe
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[15:01] <obany> hello
[15:01] <Ummite> i have a score of 580
[15:01] <obany> from France i see
[15:01] <reticuli> lol
[15:01] <Ummite> hehe
[15:01] <reticuli> man, he has a alot of kids
[15:01] <Ummite> yes
[15:01] <cmell> yeah
[15:01] <cmell> I'm not good at that
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[15:01] <BoY> QueenVee the hudson river sonar mapping lynk was very good
[15:02] <QueenVee> yeah, very interesting
[15:02] <BoY> i wasn't aware they had done such extensive mapping of it
[15:03] <QueenVee> Boy: yes, and they're keeping it all secret -- not because of the walls, of course, but because of the shipwreck sites....
[15:03] <BoY> oh yes more secrets
[15:04] <reticuli> monkeys do love secrets
[15:06] <Ummite> someone want to see a pic  that i have done
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[15:07] <cmell> hi ydgrasil
[15:08] <Ummite> Queen do you want to see my pic
[15:08] <Ummite> it is something different
[15:08] <cmell> sounds kinky ummite
[15:09] <reticuli> lol
[15:09] <cmell> :)
[15:09] <Ummite> kinky?
[15:09] <reticuli> i want to see you
[15:09] <cmell> sorry
[15:09] <Ummite> i dont have any of my pic in
[15:09] <reticuli> you tease
[15:10] <Ummite> accept reti
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[15:11] <cmell> hey Ptomais
[15:11] <Ptomais> hi
[15:12] <reticuli> nice
[15:12] <Ummite> Queen can you op me?
[15:12] <Ummite> thx
[15:13] <cmell> is that you hideout Ummite ?
[15:13] <Ptomais> Did the Zetas tell us anyting about their lives, habits, religions e.d.?
[15:13] <Ummite> yes
[15:13] <cmell> on the pic
[15:14] <QueenVee> Ptomais: a little...
[15:14] <Ummite> yes cmell
[15:14] <cmell> a little Ptomais
[15:14] <Ptomais> ok, i go search for it..
[15:14] <Ptomais> (can you tell me some headlines?)
[15:14] <cmell> use the searchengine
[15:15] <cmell> on the site
[15:15] <cmell> :)
[15:15] <QueenVee> you'll find some stuff in the Worlds section: http://www.zetatalk.com/worlds/w00.htm
[15:15] <Ptomais> ok tnx
[15:15] <QueenVee> also the stuff about hybrids in the Aftertime section
[15:17] <obany> and in the hybrids section of ZT
[15:17] <Ptomais> found what i wanted to know: what constitutes Zeta Meals
[15:18] <QueenVee> Ptomais: stuff about the zetas is scattered throughout the material, like in the material on Homosexuality in the Being Human section:
[15:18] <cmell> I'm watching a movie about the quake, where the overpass collapsed in california, ugly :(
[15:18] <QueenVee> Do we, the Zetas, have homosexuals among us? Most certainly, as the dramas that incarnation presents are the same in all life forms. The sex drive will take a direction, and habits formed young are hard to break. It's as simple as that. Do we approve? Let's put it this way - we do not disapprove. We, in the Service-to-Other, spend our time caring for, not berating, each other.
[15:19] <Ptomais> interesting
[15:22] <Ptomais> Imagine, we encounter a Zeta (after the shift?). The Zeta tells us interesing and important things. But how can we distinguish the STO from a STS-Zeta?
[15:22] <QueenVee> the same way you can tell the difference between an STO and STS human
[15:23] <obany> Ptomais: even that has been anwered
[15:23] <reticuli> lol
[15:23] <QueenVee> by their actions
[15:23] <cmell> you will be able to, because sto will give you nothing, and sts will pretend to give you something
[15:23] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/xtime/x17.htm
[15:24] <QueenVee> also, ZT recently indicated that a mature STO soul will have no problem discerning that, on a soul level
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[15:24] <obany> right.. Queenvee that's what my link is pointing too
[15:25] <QueenVee> yes, obany, that's the link: excellent
[15:25] <Ptomais> we live among human beings, we never see any Zeta. If we encounter one, then, we will regard him/her as STO, because we know 'zeta's' als the STO-Zeta's nancy described us
[15:25] <cmell> but how do undecided ppl discern
[15:25] <cmell> ?
[15:25] <QueenVee> cmell: they don't, that's why they're undecided
[15:25] <cmell> hhmm bummer
[15:25] <QueenVee> they're still learning the pros and cons of orientation
[15:25] <reticuli> ptomais, I have encountered many zetas and have never been able to discern if they are sto or sts
[15:25] <reticuli> good luck!
[15:26] <cmell> heh
[15:26] <QueenVee> reticuli: and i'm sure you've never encountered any humans whose orientation you could determine through a brief meeting either
[15:26] <Ptomais> :) thanks... But they can TELL us that they are STO, while BEING STS (a smart trick :) )
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[15:27] <QueenVee> Ptomais: of course they could -- want do you want, a DNA test?
[15:27] <cmell> heh
[15:27] <reticuli> queen, negative, I am an excellent judge of character and can tell from the first moment I meet someone. I am rarely wrong
[15:27] <Ptomais> human beings 'are at the same level we are'. Zeta's are not.
[15:27] <cmell> then what am I ?
[15:27] <QueenVee> reticuli: but you only know that you are rarely wrong through ongoing experience with those people
[15:27] <QueenVee> you simply don't have the opportunity to do that with the zetas
[15:28] <Ptomais> thats the point
[15:28] <QueenVee> experience is all, people
[15:28] <QueenVee> always has been, always will be
[15:28] <reticuli> quuen, my point is that i know with humans, withy zetas I dont have the faintest idea
[15:28] <reticuli> its ALIEN
[15:28] <cmell> but as far as I know I don't know
[15:28] <reticuli> ;)
[15:28] <Ptomais> Why would a human being care for ants and tell them the truth? Why would a zeta care for a human being and tell him/her the truth
[15:29] <cmell> heh
[15:29] <cmell> because if they are STO they care
[15:29] <QueenVee> Ptomais: if this is going to be one of those never-ending-snake-eating-its-own-tail questions about how do we know if the zetas are telling us the truth -- take it somewhere else
[15:30] <QueenVee> you either untuitively know the material in valid, or you don't
[15:30] <QueenVee> that's all it comes down to
[15:30] <Ptomais> ok
[15:30] <cmell> yes QV
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[15:36] <cmell> you guys better prepare to see dead ppl :(
[15:37] <cmell> I will
[15:37] <Ptomais> what are you plans?
[15:37] <cmell> maybe you should take a tour of http://www.rotten.com
[15:38] <cmell> I plan to leave for sweden
[15:38] <Ptomais> sweden! seems a great country to me. where do you live now?
[15:39] <cmell> denmark
[15:39] <Ptomais> i live in the netherlands, below sealevel
[15:39] <Ptomais> sweden will last?
[15:39] <cmell> the second flattest country in the world
[15:39] <Ptomais> the first is?
[15:39] <cmell> netherlands
[15:39] <cmell> hehe
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[15:40] <placentasarenasty> any suspicions regarding service to self and service to other relations?
[15:40] <cmell> hello placenta
[15:41] <placentasarenasty> harro cmell :)
[15:41] <cmell> harro?
[15:41] <placentasarenasty> my way of saying hello
[15:41] <QueenVee> placenta: please leave the room, change your nickname to something less offensive, then come back in and say hello like a reasonably polite person
[15:41] <placentasarenasty> offensive?
[15:41] <cmell> oh ok harro placenta
[15:41] <placentasarenasty> understood
[15:41] <Ptomais> broeva, harro
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[15:42] <alnilamcentre> there i have rejoined. my apologies, QV
[15:42] <QueenVee> what brings you to this room?
[15:42] <alnilamcentre> oh... many many things... questions, urge to discuss, etc
[15:43] <QueenVee> how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk?
[15:43] <alnilamcentre> the poleshift I originally thought was to be in 2012 and i found out only last year; zetatalk i have found only afew months ago and I =have combed the site
[15:44] <QueenVee> where do you live?
[15:44] <alnilamcentre> I am appalled to see that NASA continues their coverup, and reinforces itwith hiding new photos of Phobos
[15:44] <alnilamcentre> I live near the District of Columbia
[15:45] <QueenVee> are you planning to relocate?
[15:45] <alnilamcentre> I am beginning to draw up a plan of evasion, as soon as the first day of the three day rotation freeze begins
[15:45] <QueenVee> far too late
[15:45] <alnilamcentre> I intend to engage that plan on the day I notice the rotation freeze
[15:45] <alnilamcentre> you think so?
[15:46] <QueenVee> the very latest should be when you see PX in the sky
[15:46] <cmell> yes I agree
[15:46] <alnilamcentre> oh well... that would be my first sign, indeed. i just am not sure it would be so visible
[15:46] <QueenVee> and where will you go to, have you prepared for the aftertime?
[15:47] <QueenVee> ZT indicates that it will be clearly visible to the naked eye, in the daytime, 7 weeks prior to the shift
[15:47] <QueenVee> it is one thing to survive the shift itself, it is another to survive the aftertime
[15:47] <alnilamcentre> I beleive I am prepared... all my life, I have seemingly been an innate service to other; originally I thought it was because I was a Libra, but now I know why I have such a strong orientation
[15:48] <alnilamcentre> I intend to settle within West Virginia if the predictions materialize
[15:48] <QueenVee> yes, yes, spiritually and psychologically prepared and all that -- but what about practical preparation?
[15:48] <QueenVee> food, shelter, supplies, etc/
[15:48] <QueenVee> water
[15:48] <cmell> water is the most important thing !
[15:48] <QueenVee> you have a place in West Virginia?
[15:48] <QueenVee> when which predictions materialize -- many have done so already
[15:49] <reticuli> later
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[15:49] <QueenVee> bye ret
[15:49] <cmell> later
[15:49] <alnilamcentre> no... the only provision I have made thus far is the accumulation of gold incase of a barter system. the natural requirements, of course, will also be stockpiled
[15:49] <QueenVee> LOL
[15:49] <QueenVee> what use will gold be in the aftertime?
[15:49] <cmell> gold wont do you any good
[15:49] <cmell> food will
[15:49] <QueenVee> tools will
[15:50] <alnilamcentre> in the event of a cashless society and the takeover of a NWO, gold will be more valuable than anything else
[15:50] <QueenVee> medical supplies
[15:50] <cmell> yes
[15:50] <cmell> no
[15:50] <QueenVee> alnil: ZT indicates that it will be worthless
[15:50] <cmell> sell gold, get tool n food
[15:50] <QueenVee> heck,commonsense indicates that it will be worthless
[15:51] <QueenVee> what do starving, shelterless people need with gold
[15:51] <alnilamcentre> to trade it for food
[15:51] <alnilamcentre> and vice versa... like I said, my own plan is only in its infancy
[15:51] <alnilamcentre> I thought I had at least 10 more years
[15:51] <QueenVee> it will not buy you food
[15:51] <cmell> yes I can hear that
[15:51] <cmell> infancy
[15:51] <alnilamcentre> but I suppose that is when the actual ascention of humanity may occur
[15:52] <QueenVee> you need to read the POLESHIFT and AFTERTIME sections of www.zetatalk.com VERY THROUGHLY.  it is clearly that you have not as yet.
[15:52] <alnilamcentre> I have indeed read it thoroughly
[15:52] <alnilamcentre> I have read it so much that I have had some suspicion growin
[15:52] <QueenVee> no, the shift to 4th density occurs 100 years after the shift
[15:52] <cmell> but you have not taken notice then :(
[15:52] <QueenVee> yeah, right, you really sound as though you've read it
[15:52] <alnilamcentre> look I know you get a lo of know it alls claming to have read it
[15:52] <QueenVee> you don't even have the basic facts down
[15:53] <alnilamcentre> well, I would have been more vocally ready if I knew I was walking into a questionairre
[15:53] <QueenVee> well, go back and read it
[15:53] <cmell> you are not
[15:53] <alnilamcentre> but for the sake of curiousity
[15:53] <QueenVee> those to sections
[15:53] <alnilamcentre> please allow me to ask this
[15:53] <QueenVee> here it comes
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[15:54] <alnilamcentre> really now, I have no hostile intentions
[15:54] <QueenVee> hello magnetos
[15:54] <QueenVee> didn't say you did
[15:54] <cmell> hi magnetos
[15:54] <alnilamcentre> please stop harboring such emotion towards me
[15:54] <Magnetos> Hello.
[15:54] <Magnetos> Greetings, cmell.
[15:54] <QueenVee> you don't know what emtotions we may or may not have
[15:54] <cmell> me neither
[15:54] <QueenVee> you are hearing impatience
[15:54] <alnilamcentre> yes you are correct, but then, why are you impatient?
[15:54] <cmell> don't remember seing you here, what brings you here ?
[15:55] <QueenVee> because in our experience those who demonstrate a lack of having read and absorbed the zetatalk material always ask very predictable, basic questions
[15:55] <cmell> magneto
[15:55] <QueenVee> and we tire of doing their homework for them
[15:55] <alnilamcentre> yes of course, the typical newbe
[15:55] <alnilamcentre> but here, i have a question that I dont think many readers have asked
[15:55] <Ptomais> (i'm looking for the Nancy's Viosion flash-file)
[15:55] <Ptomais> vision
[15:55] <Magnetos> I come here to hopefully discuss topics pertaining to the poleshift, cmell.
[15:56] <QueenVee> that's why we have the following notice greet you as you enter the room:  'For those familiar with & seriously preparing for the May2003 Poleshift & AfterTime as predicted by ZetaTalk. Those curious/undecided/not preparing should visit www.zetatalk.com for basic info & #EarthChanges for more general Poleshift/PX chat.'
[15:56] <QueenVee> let's have it alnil
[15:56] <Magnetos> Typically, the others rooms that are related to this have no discuss at all occurring in them.
[15:56] <cmell> ok, have any questions then magneto
[15:56] <cmell> s
[15:56] <cmell> sorry
[15:56] <alnilamcentre> and I say this with all due respect; do you think that sometimes, Nancy may have a channeled vision with a STS (service/self) entity and not know it for sure
[15:56] <Magnetos> The problem with that, QueenVee, is that those other rooms are rarely active.
[15:56] <QueenVee> LOL -- NO, WE DEFINITELY AIN'T HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE!
[15:56] <alnilamcentre> thats what I thought
[15:56] <QueenVee> that was sarcasm
[15:57] <Magnetos> So people who wish to discuss topics related to the poleshift have few forums in which to express their opinions.
[15:57] <Magnetos> Cmell, I don't have any questions currently.
[15:57] <QueenVee> alnil: debate over whether zetatalk is valid or not is NOT the purpose of this room
[15:57] <cmell> ok, but you believe that it will happen ?
[15:57] <alnilamcentre> understood
[15:57] <Magnetos> Oh, for the record, Nancy didn't channel her visions..they were given to her telepathically.
[15:58] <cmell> hehe
[15:58] <QueenVee> cmell: correction. no one has to BELIEVE it is GOING TO HAPPEN. one simply has to take the predictions seriously and be preparing.
[15:58] <cmell> oh  yes sorry
[15:58] <cmell> wrong words
[15:58] <QueenVee> Can you believe he thought NO ONE had ever asked that question before?
[15:58] <alnilamcentre> then, in that case, does anyone know about how quarantined those habitants of planet x are?
[15:58] <Magnetos> I take the predictions seriously and have taken steps to prepare.
[15:58] <QueenVee> alnil: how does that relate to preparation for the poleshift and aftertime?
[15:59] <alnilamcentre> well
[15:59] <Magnetos> But may I offer a suggestion?
[15:59] <alnilamcentre> planet X is the cause of the poleshift
[15:59] <alnilamcentre> is it not?
[15:59] <alnilamcentre> and...
[15:59] <cmell> they can't leave their planet
[15:59] <Magnetos> It isn't necessary to have the level of belligerence present in the room.
[15:59] <alnilamcentre> whether or not they are quarantined
[15:59] <Z--AC-log> Mag go on over to earthchanges and I'll listen to your opinions -- just for tonight
[15:59] <alnilamcentre> could make a huge difference
[15:59] <QueenVee> alnil: try using the SEARCH function on the zetatalk site for those kind of questions
[15:59] <QueenVee> Mag: yes, it is, actually
[15:59] <alnilamcentre> I only saw the word "quarantined"
[15:59] <alnilamcentre> and nothing describing such an imprisonment
[16:00] <QueenVee> alnil: how will the answer to tht question help you prepare for the poleshift and aftertime?
[16:00] <Magnetos> I disagree..I think if someone is causing a true disturbance they should be removed instead of creating a greater disturbance.
[16:00] <QueenVee> Mag: why don't you create a chatroom of your own, with the discussion parameters you want?
[16:00] <Ptomais> (Is the Nancy's Vision Flash File on the ZETATALK of the TROUBLED TIMES website)
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[16:00] <QueenVee> why do you insist on making someone else's room conform to your needs?
[16:00] <Magnetos> Zac, at the moment I don't have any particular issues to discuss--just waiting for an issue to give my opinion on. I appreciate the offer though.
[16:00] <alnilamcentre> the answer to that question will allow for greater preparation
[16:01] <QueenVee> hi Pgill
[16:01] <PGill> hey
[16:01] <cmell> hello PG
[16:01] <Z--AC-log> whatever
[16:01] <QueenVee> alnil: how?
[16:01] <PGill> just got a new optical wireless mouse :)
[16:01] <cmell> nice
[16:01] <QueenVee> very cool -- does it run on batteries, or what?
[16:01] <Magnetos> Well, QueenVee, obviously I could never change the nature of this room; however, I simply thought, becasuse we live in a civilized society, that we could share our opinions without the high level of belligerence..
[16:02] <cmell> have you a new optical wireless cat too :)
[16:02] <Magnetos> But, anyway, that's a moot topic.
[16:02] <QueenVee> Mag: one more comment along those lines and you're kicked and banned -- understood?
[16:02] <PGill> yea it has batteries, and no im allergic to cats lol
[16:02] <cmell> lol
[16:02] * Magnetos shakes his head.
[16:02] <QueenVee> #earthchanges
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[16:02] <Magnetos> This is what happens when you put women in charge. They can't handle leadership roles.
[16:02] <Magnetos> I'll ban myself from this room.
[16:02] <alnilamcentre> hold it
[16:02] * QueenVee sets mode: +b *!*@0-1pool248-116.nas3.norfolk1.va.us.da.qwest.net
[16:02] * Magnetos was kicked by QueenVee (Magnetos)
[16:03] <cmell> haha
[16:03] <PGill> uh, what was THAT all about?
[16:03] <alnilamcentre> I dont mean to take sides
[16:03] <QueenVee> hi galaxy explorer
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[16:03] <QueenVee> lady!
[16:03] <LadyInRed> Hey!!!!
[16:03] <cmell> hey lady
[16:03] <alnilamcentre> but... he should know that females are superior to males in almost every way
[16:03] <QueenVee>     MERRY CHRISTMAS LADY!!!     
[16:03] <galaxyexplorer> Hi QueenVee
[16:03] <LadyInRed> of course we are al... lol
[16:04] <LadyInRed> ty Queen and same to you and all here!
[16:04] <alnilamcentre> reproduction, aesthetic appeal, innate maternal instinct
[16:04] <LadyInRed> and brains :)
[16:04] <QueenVee> Lady: that was in response to what someone i kicked and banned just said: "This is what happens when you put women in charge. They can't handle leadership roles."
[16:04] <galaxyexplorer> Hi everybody
[16:04] <alnilamcentre> greater simultaneous brainwave function
[16:04] <LadyInRed> lolol
[16:04] <QueenVee> i knew you'd enjoy it
[16:04] <cmell> lol
[16:05] <QueenVee> Lady: have you seen our new website, and have you heard about the new NETWORK WITH OTHERS SECTION?
[16:05] <LadyInRed> whew! has everyone been as busy as me this holiday?
[16:05] <QueenVee> forgive me, but it's been so long since i've talked to you....
[16:05] <LadyInRed> yes!
[16:05] <LadyInRed> I think its great Queen
[16:05] <alnilamcentre> but in return to the topic; I think a further description (like its reliability) on the quarantine on PLanet X's inhabitants would allow for more preparation
[16:05] <QueenVee> alnil: sorry, it's not relevant to preparation
[16:05] <cmell> be carefull ladies
[16:06] <alnilamcentre> for instance, in my case, once I complete my bunker, if I knew Reptoids/Giuants/whomever were not as imprisoned as they are sid to be; I would try to deploy surface to air particle weaponry
[16:06] <QueenVee> if you can explain to me how it is relevant to preparation, i'll be glad to take the time and energy to look up the information for you
[16:06] <QueenVee> i see....
[16:06] <QueenVee> well, ZT clearly indicates that the Annunaki on PX are quarantined from coming anywhere near earth
[16:06] <alnilamcentre> ok, it is relevant for preparation if they are there and are planning an invasion; but then again, if they wanted to invade, they would have done so already
[16:06] <QueenVee> so set your mind at ease
[16:07] <LadyInRed> i know Queen, its been so long since ive been in
[16:07] <cmell> I have to leave you ladies now
[16:07] <QueenVee> alnil: PLEASE READ THE ZETATALK SITE. you clearly have not
[16:07] <LadyInRed> missed you all
[16:07] <alnilamcentre> I DID i am just questioning some of the information on it
[16:07] <LadyInRed> bye cmell:(
[16:07] <QueenVee> by cmell
[16:07] <obany> hi and bye lady
[16:07] <alnilamcentre> I just wanted to know the thoughts of fellow readers
[16:07] <LadyInRed> bye obany!
[16:07] * obany goes now ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[16:07] <cmell> later hehe
[16:07] <obany> nite
[16:07] <QueenVee> alnil: this is not a chat room to debate whether the info on zetatalk is accurate or not
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[16:07] <QueenVee> i really don't know how to get that through your head
[16:07] <QueenVee> please go to #earthchanges or #troubled_times if you want that kind of discussion
[16:08] <alnilamcentre> ok, understood. it is through my head
[16:08] <LadyInRed> hey i have a question
[16:08] <alnilamcentre> may I ask what you have done to prepare?
[16:08] <QueenVee> shoot, lady
[16:08] <QueenVee> you may
[16:08] <LadyInRed> what kind of wheat is the best to buy in bulk? any recommendations?
[16:08] * obany says bye
[16:09] <QueenVee> i have relocated, have my safe place for the poleshift and aftertime determined, and have spent the last year studying zetatalk and devising a very detailed plan to be quickly put into place when PX is visible in the sky
[16:09] <QueenVee> Lady: good question!
[16:09] <LadyInRed> and how to use it once you have it?
[16:09] <LadyInRed> making bread and such
[16:09] <QueenVee> now, do you mean WHEAT, or do you mean FLOUR?
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[16:09] <LadyInRed> both i guess
[16:09] <QueenVee> because there are more kinds of flour than just wheat
[16:10] <LadyInRed> thats what im asking
[16:10] <QueenVee> i'm sure that some have a better shelf live than others, but i don't know......
[16:10] <LadyInRed> should wheat flour be bought?
[16:10] <QueenVee> lady: let me do some research on the web about that. i'm sure i could find the answer within a few minutes
[16:10] <LadyInRed> and i have heard a lot of people buying bulk wheat
[16:11] <LadyInRed> how do they use bulk wheat?
[16:11] <alnilamcentre> I would vye away from genetically engineered grown wheat
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[16:11] <QueenVee> in the meantime, you should consider buying the wheat in unground form -- to be ground as needed
[16:11] <LadyInRed> thats what i thought
[16:11] <QueenVee> hello Kain
[16:11] <LadyInRed> hi Kain
[16:11] <Kain> Hey QV, LIR :) How are things this evening?
[16:12] <LadyInRed> http://www.bulkfoods.com/about.htm
[16:12] <alnilamcentre> QV, do you know if STO entities will assist the like-minded humans against the inevitable NWO takeover upon the catastrophy?
[16:12] <LadyInRed> i found this site
[16:12] <QueenVee> Kain: lively
[16:12] <QueenVee> ;-)
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[16:12] <Kain> QV.. last night I read your reports on the weather.. all that in the last 3 weeks!?!?
[16:12] <QueenVee> Lady: here's a site about milling wheat...  http://members.aol.com/jtmoorlach/
[16:12] <QueenVee> Kain: yepper
[16:13] <QueenVee> Kain: i added a few more reports today -- have a look -- important ones
[16:13] <alnilamcentre> could you please give me a link to that report? i have been highly suspcious of my local area's weather
[16:13] <alnilamcentre> especially with the sudden snow on christmas eve
[16:13] <LadyInRed> we have had weird weather too
[16:13] <Kain> Here in central Texas we are scratching our heads because the trees seem to be shedding they're leaves so late in the season..
[16:13] <QueenVee> poleshift related news items are reported on the home page of this group's website: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/index.php
[16:14] <LadyInRed> tornados in December? Yikes!
[16:14] <alnilamcentre> and today the sun was so bright, I thought that HAARP blasted a hole in the DC area
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[16:14] <alnilamcentre> thank you very much QV
[16:14] <LadyInRed> im in Texas too Kain
[16:14] <QueenVee> there is also a news archive link that allows you to read all articles posted since the site was launched a month ago
[16:14] <QueenVee> Hello Fredd -- what brings you to this room?
[16:14] <QueenVee> Xen -- welcome
[16:14] <Kain> are you Lady?? Austin here...
[16:14] <Xen> hi
[16:14] <QueenVee> Xen: where do you live?
[16:14] <Xen> Atlanta
[16:14] <LadyInRed> Del Rio area here:)
[16:15] <Kain> not looking good for us is it, LIR?
[16:15] <LadyInRed> no its not!
[16:15] <QueenVee> Xen: how long have you been aware of the poleshift and zetatalk? are you planning to relocate?
[16:15] <alnilamcentre> LOL not as bad as the eastern seabord
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[16:15] <Fredd> Hi Queen my first time in irc
[16:15] <Kain> can't get much worse than total flood...
[16:15] <QueenVee> you're quite welcome, Fredd
[16:16] <LadyInRed> yeah , my kids live in Corpus
[16:16] <Xen> About 1.5 years... thinking about going North into the smoky mts  :)
[16:16] <QueenVee> Fredd: where do you hail from?
[16:16] <Kain> I'm sorry LIR.. any plans in progress?
[16:16] <Xen> Anyone else near Atanta?
[16:16] <LadyInRed> well, its a long story lol
[16:16] <Fredd> Victoria Aus
[16:17] <Kain> I just learned of these things a month ago.. story just starting..
[16:17] <LadyInRed> when i first heard of PX i went crazy and wanted to make plans to relocate
[16:17] <alnilamcentre> same here... PX scared the pants out of me with its irregular orbit
[16:17] <LadyInRed> dont think im crazy when i say this but...
[16:17] <LadyInRed> a voice told me to stay put, that we would be safe here
[16:17] <Kain> to the majority, all of us here are crazy...
[16:17] <alnilamcentre> not to mention the stories of the Sumerian rulers who supposedly live there
[16:18] <Kain> safe in Del Rio?
[16:18] <LadyInRed> yep
[16:18] <LadyInRed> dumb huh?
[16:18] <alnilamcentre> LIR that could have been a STS (Service/self) they are adept at illusions
[16:18] <LadyInRed> i dont think so
[16:18] <QueenVee> alnil: there are no sumerians on PX, just annunaki
[16:18] <Kain> I don't think so LIR..
[16:18] <alnilamcentre> i said sumerian RULERS, madame
[16:19] <LadyInRed> i am over 1,00 ft above sea leval here
[16:19] <alnilamcentre> you would still have to worry about earthqukes
[16:19] <LadyInRed> and i couldnt leave my family anyway
[16:19] <alnilamcentre> geographical weatrher changes
[16:19] <LadyInRed> i know all that
[16:19] <Kain> all my loved ones are here to.. I'm trying to warn them..
[16:19] <LadyInRed> we will just take what comes i reckon
[16:19] <alnilamcentre> i hope for your sake that will be enough
[16:19] <QueenVee> Lady: you should know that alnil is not very well acquainted with ZetaTalk yet....
[16:19] <Kain> so..first week of April we should be able to see Px, right?
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[16:20] <QueenVee> Kain: yep
[16:20] <alnilamcentre> well, hey now, please stop the aggression with me
[16:20] <LadyInRed> im am preparing shelter , food, water ect.. so
[16:20] <zepar> hello all
[16:20] <LadyInRed> hi zepar
[16:20] <alnilamcentre> I maybe a newbie by experience in this room, but I am the general population-type newbie who does nto make himself aware of his surroundings
[16:20] <QueenVee> alnil: Lady is a long-time member of this group; she is much better acquainted with the material than you
[16:20] <alnilamcentre> rather, I am NOT the general population... etc
[16:21] <Kain> good for you LIR..  I'm still assimilating the information..  really feeling the pressure.. 13 weeks...
[16:21] <LadyInRed> yeah hon i know
[16:21] <LadyInRed> and its ruff when your loved ones dont believe
[16:21] <zepar> i agree
[16:21] <QueenVee> zepar: what brings you to this room? where do you live?
[16:21] <alnilamcentre> it is very tough
[16:21] <zepar> hehehe i found it last night right before you went to bed
[16:22] <zepar> im in ohio
[16:22] <Kain> well.. my father, whom I'd assume to dismiss it all quikly.. has actually been doing some research of his own..
[16:22] <LadyInRed> but like i said i am preparing and will be ready for them when they see"the lighjt" in the sky:O
[16:22] <zepar> along the WV border
[16:22] <PGill> i have a question....
[16:22] <Kain> although he doesn't believe in it yet...
[16:22] <alnilamcentre> what kind of research? astrological?
[16:22] <LadyInRed> my mother believes and is helping me prepare
[16:22] <LadyInRed> she is 68
[16:22] <Kain> just web searching..
[16:23] <zepar> i have been reading the ZT stuff for about 8 months now
[16:23] <Kain> he seems to be focusing on the nay=sayers..
[16:23] <QueenVee> PGill: shoot
[16:23] <alnilamcentre> yes, I'd imagine so; the debunking around the idea is quite impressive
[16:23] <PGill> i know weve all talked about how to tell others about the shift (gradual seems best), but shouldnt our approach change when we can see it? more aggresive attempts perhaps?
[16:23] <LadyInRed> my husband is 64 and he thinks i am crazy lol
[16:23] <Kain> can't blame him.. my parents just moved into the house they plan to retire in.
[16:24] <QueenVee> PGill: people will be even more emotional at that point; the gentle approach is still the best approach if you don't want to push the person awa
[16:24] <LadyInRed> i think they all will come around when PX is seen by the naked eye
[16:24] <Kain> PGILL.. when Px is visible I think it best to quiet down.. else have too many people coming to you for help.. since you are prepared, and they not..
[16:24] <alnilamcentre> most likely LIR
[16:24] <LadyInRed> thats why WE have to be ready for them
[16:25] <zepar> my family is mostly christian and i have been trying to show them in their bible where it has happened before but they do not beleave me
[16:25] <Kain> very much a conflict there Pgill...
[16:25] <alnilamcentre> tell them to look i up in their own book, zepar
[16:25] <alnilamcentre> the idea of PX is there
[16:25] <Kain> I hear ya Zepar...
[16:25] <LadyInRed> oh i have a wonderful tape that explaines it in Christian erms
[16:25] <alnilamcentre> in the usual confusing garb of the bible
[16:25] <LadyInRed> terms*
[16:25] <zepar> my group of friends have regular meetings now and talk about what we are going to do starting in Feb
[16:25] <LadyInRed> and you can order it free!
[16:25] <Kain> how do we prepare for the many scared and unprepared people that will come knocking on our doors?
[16:25] <QueenVee> TO THE NEW PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT: If you are not yet on our mailing list for announcements, and wish to be, simply give me your email address on a private channel
[16:26] <PGill> well, the way i see it is that ppl dont believe because of a lack of visible proof....maybe when everyone can see it maybe its time you decided if they were going to be in denial or not
[16:26] <PGill> and determine how to deal with them
[16:26] <QueenVee> Kain: you absorbe the advice offered to you in ZT and by more experienced people here, and turn around and offer the same kind of advice to people who come to you for help
[16:26] <Kain> Question: Do any of you think Bush will restrict travel when the time comes?
[16:26] <alnilamcentre> MOST LIKELY
[16:27] <alnilamcentre> Bush is the best puppet the NWO has ever had, next to Truman
[16:27] <zepar> we have done much research and we have some very good minds in our group   but still some want to see it to go full out
[16:27] <alnilamcentre> I would not be surprised if upon sight of the planet, US's borders become sealed
[16:27] <PGill> well...
[16:27] <Kain> even state borders?
[16:27] <QueenVee> Kain: ZT indicates that most of the plans that the elite have for controlling the population at the end will not happen, because the people they need to carry out orders will have flown the coop
[16:27] <LadyInRed> John DiNardo, 3 Dorsey Ct., Towaco,NJ 07082
[16:27] <PGill> if the govt wont acknoledge it IS px, then it would be suspisious to close boprders
[16:27] <LadyInRed> theres that address for the tape Kain
[16:28] <LadyInRed> its free
[16:28] <Kain> yes QV.. thats very logical.. I just worry..
[16:28] <zepar> when the FEMA head leaves his position    you gota know there is something wrong
[16:28] <QueenVee> Kain: don't listen to what people speculate might happen -- go to ZetaTalk for your information
[16:28] <alnilamcentre> yes but when they get back, theyre going to want to bring in the reigns, dont you think?
[16:28] <alnilamcentre> now that the population is in chaos, it would be a perfect time to impose a satanic order
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[16:28] <zepar> durring martial law he is the leader of the country when the pres and vice are not available
[16:28] <QueenVee> hello Nol
[16:28] <alnilamcentre> what is wrong with speculation QV?
[16:29] <LadyInRed> the tape helps prepared hard core Christians for the real things that will happen
[16:29] <QueenVee> ZetaTalk is more accurate than speculation
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[16:29] <alnilamcentre> perhaps, but speculation is an excellent vehicle of discussion, is it not?
[16:29] <alnilamcentre> as long as it is relevant
[16:30] <QueenVee> alnil: only insofar as it prompts the moderator to remind people that the speculation is not accurate, according to ZT
[16:30] <zepar> ZT has filled in alot of questions i have had most of my life and the answers i have found there are the ones i have felt were true for most of my life just never heard others say it
[16:30] <Kain> LIR: Just write and ask for the tape?
[16:30] <LadyInRed> yes
[16:30] <Kain> excellent..
[16:30] <LadyInRed> all he asks is you make copies and give em away
[16:30] <QueenVee> anil: i didn't tell you not to speculate; i was just advising others not to take your speculation as sound advice
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[16:31] <QueenVee> hey froggy
[16:31] <Kain> I have such a friend LIR who just might need to hear this tape..
[16:31] <LadyInRed> be sure and tell him i told you about it lol
[16:31] <zepar> hello froggy
[16:31] <LadyInRed> hi froggy
[16:31] <Kain> you got it! :)
[16:31] <alnilamcentre> oh most definitely agreed, QV. I am, by no means, imposing information and ideas that I feel is 100% right
[16:31] <froggy> hi QueenVee and everybody :)
[16:32] <Kain> heyas Froggy..
[16:32] <froggy> hi
[16:32] <QueenVee> alnil: my job is to make sure people are getting accurate information and advice; so if i correct you, please do not take it personally
[16:32] <LadyInRed> brb
[16:32] <alnilamcentre> understood. may I say you do that job well
[16:33] <Kain> I'm sure we're all very greatful for QV's efforts!
[16:33] <QueenVee> IF YOU HAVEN'T READ OUR WEBSITE TODAY: Please note that a whole bunch of news went up there today: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[16:33] <zepar> cool
[16:33] * DoG_WalKer is now known as BoY
[16:34] <PGill> when do you think the new section will be done QV?
[16:34] <QueenVee> BY THE WAY: nancy wrote us a lovely email saying how glad she is that the website and NETWORK WITH OTHERS section has been launched; that it is taking a lot of work and pressure off of her....
[16:34] <QueenVee> PGill: a few days
[16:35] <QueenVee> of course it won't be DONE, because it will be ongoing, constantly updated -- but there will be profiles up for people to view
[16:35] <alnilamcentre> anyone know why zetatalk only talks about |greys| and not other supposed alien species, such as draconians and reptoids?
[16:35] <QueenVee> alnil: if you read the site, you would know they do
[16:35] <PGill> of course, but looking forward to it
[16:35] <alnilamcentre> I mean really talk about it
[16:35] <QueenVee> alnil: check the OTHER WORLDS section
[16:35] <QueenVee> alnil: also RULES
[16:35] <QueenVee> ORIENTATION
[16:35] <QueenVee> alnil: again, how will that info help us to prepare for the poleshift and aftertime?
[16:36] <QueenVee> ZetaTalk is not supposed to be a capsulized HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE, you know
[16:36] <alnilamcentre> i am sorry QV/ it would not really make much of a differece
[16:36] <alnilamcentre> LOL i know, but sometyimes I like to think it is close to that
[16:36] <alnilamcentre> at least thehistory of the Milky Way
[16:36] <QueenVee> yes, there's a wealth of information there
[16:37] <Kain> yea there is.. :) still making my way through it..
[16:37] <QueenVee> however, please note that the zetas HAVE commented on the fact that they are restricted by the rules of engagement from talking about the activities of other aliens too much
[16:37] <alnilamcentre> yes
[16:37] <alnilamcentre> the rules of engagement...
[16:37] <QueenVee> so there's your question answered
[16:37] <QueenVee> check out the RULES section
[16:38] <QueenVee> Lady: are you there!
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[16:39] <LadyInRed> back
[16:39] <QueenVee> ah
[16:39] <LadyInRed> had to take my dog out lol
[16:39] <Kain-away> gonna go continue reading ZT
[16:39] <LadyInRed> and daughter is on Im
[16:39] <LadyInRed> brb
[16:39] <QueenVee> Lady: if you do a search on google with the keywords "flour + shelf life", it brings up a whole bunch of sites that talk about how different kinds of flours fare...
[16:40] <LadyInRed> ty Queen!
[16:40] <QueenVee> oh, good, you got it before you disappeared
[16:41] <QueenVee> Fredd: we have a lot of people who come to this room that live in Australia and New Zealand
[16:41] <alnilamcentre> and a lot from the eastern seaboard of the US, I'd imagine
[16:42] <QueenVee> we have people from all over the US; all over the world actually
[16:42] <QueenVee> canada, us, britain, south american, scandanavia, europe, russia, singapore
[16:42] <alnilamcentre> QV, i know this is irrelevant, but are you and Aries or a Cancer? just curious
[16:42] <QueenVee> neither
[16:42] <alnilamcentre> Taurus?
[16:42] <QueenVee> moon
[16:43] <QueenVee> Leo sun, Libra rising
[16:43] <LadyInRed> I'm Aries :)
[16:44] <Fredd> Yes Queen I know I've been reading ZT for several years now as well as the weekly logs
[16:44] <alnilamcentre> ah then I was way off; I guess I was still identifying your responses as if you were responding personally.
[16:44] <QueenVee> i'm a pussycat when i'm not working   ;-)
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[16:44] <QueenVee> Xen: you were saying something about moving up to the mountains? which mountains?
[16:44] <zepar> hello snitt
[16:45] <QueenVee> hello snitt -- what brings you to this room?
[16:45] <SNITT> <~~~~~Walt
[16:45] <QueenVee> Walt, please change your nick; i have trouble enough keeping track of people
[16:46] <QueenVee> and don't have a snitt
[16:46] <QueenVee> hehe
[16:46] <LadyInRed> LOL
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[16:46] <alnilamcentre> QV, do you think anyone within the world's government will try to destroy PX?
[16:46] <QueenVee> so did you all read that bit of news about scientists finding a man-built wall in the Hudson River?
[16:47] <BoY> yes i did
[16:47] <BoY> :)
[16:47] <QueenVee> alnil: no, i don't
[16:47] <QueenVee> at least 3,000 years old, last poleshift 3600 years ago.... i like the time line
[16:47] <QueenVee> alnil: are you aware of how big PX is?
[16:47] <zepar> wow
[16:47] <alnilamcentre> yes, somewhat; it is a BROWN DWARF
[16:47] <alnilamcentre> OPops sorry for the caps
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[16:48] <QueenVee> right now they can't even get a probe out there to look at it
[16:48] <alnilamcentre> I think Hubble could take a peek
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[16:49] <alnilamcentre> in fact, is probably right now taking a few peeks
[16:49] <QueenVee> no, i didn't mean take a picture
[16:49] <rnthomas> I was just about to say howdy all
[16:49] <LadyInRed> hi thomas
[16:49] <QueenVee> RN: how are you? good holidays?
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[16:49] <alnilamcentre> I just hope that the poleshift does not permanently impede our ability to produce starships in the future
[16:49] <LadyInRed> hi Pal!
[16:49] <alnilamcentre> as it did in the past
[16:49] <QueenVee>     HELLO ZETAPAL!     
[16:50] <Zetapal> Hello :)
[16:50] <rnthomas> All in all pretty good holidays...
[16:50] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O
[16:50] <BoY> QueenVee do you know what happened to the capstone of the great pyramid
[16:50] <QueenVee> alnil: well, "we" will become a hybrid human/zeta race within a generation of the poleshift, with access to zeta technology
[16:50] <froggy> QueenVee, your website looks great and lots to read
[16:50] <froggy> I'm a cancer
[16:51] <QueenVee> thanks, froggy; can't wait to get the NETWORK section up and running, but it's quite labour intensive
[16:51] <alnilamcentre> if all goes well, but how do we know that it is not the STS that will take command over STO
[16:51] <zepar> i too am a cancer
[16:51] <froggy> cool
[16:51] <froggy> hi zetapal
[16:51] <alnilamcentre> any Librans?
[16:51] <QueenVee> Boy: remind me....
[16:51] <rnthomas> Had a great chat with Steve at his place...
[16:51] <BoY> the only suggestion i see of it is on the back of the $
[16:51] <QueenVee> RN: do tell!
[16:51] <rnthomas> Was pretty impressed actually...
[16:51] <BoY> other than that i haven't found out 7 was wondering if you knew
[16:52] <rnthomas> He was tellin us how most observatories are all in pieces, not just the *ONE* scope that NancyL was talkin about.
[16:52] <QueenVee> Boy: one would assume that it was removed, broken up, and used for something else
[16:52] <QueenVee> RN: i don't understand
[16:52] <alnilamcentre> have they been dismantled RN?
[16:53] <rnthomas> Steve has been trying to use the various observatories around here...
[16:53] <QueenVee> what do you mean by "all in pieces"?
[16:53] <froggy> brb
[16:53] <rnthomas> There's one in Victoria, and a few others that he knew of that we didn't..
[16:53] <QueenVee> i know that a formerly public observatory in Vancouver has now been closed to all but the government....
[16:53] <rnthomas> Most if not all are in pieces or waiting for parts and no longer functioning...
[16:53] <alnilamcentre> dismantled, then
[16:53] <QueenVee> i see....
[16:54] <alnilamcentre> wunderbar
[16:54] <QueenVee> disconcerting
[16:54] <rnthomas> Well that's what they are telling...
[16:54] <alnilamcentre> STS wins again
[16:54] <rnthomas> And it's one thing to hear it over a radio program, quite another to be talking at the guy face to face...
[16:54] <rnthomas> He was telling us the truth as far as we could read...
[16:55] <rnthomas> Although, I still have problems with the Red/White personna thing, I see where Steve is coming from on it.
[16:55] <QueenVee> I HAVE TO MOVE MY COMPUTER TO ANOTHER ROOM, INVOLVING A REBOOT. Be back in about five minutes.
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[16:56] <tenshu> how do you find ip?
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[16:56] <LadyInRed-away> brb
[16:56] <rnthomas> I was also very happy to find Steve very easy to talk to, and approachable to most anything.
[16:57] <zepar> thats cool
[16:57] <zepar> he is doing much to help us all
[16:57] <BoY> like what
[16:57] <rnthomas> That much is certain...  
[16:58] <rnthomas> I just found out that we have access to a 6 inch telescope, but we need to wait a little longer before that will be of any use.
[16:58] <rnthomas> It also doesn't have CCD imaging, nowhere near as nice as steve's images...
[16:58] <alnilamcentre> by the way, has anyone observed a change in Betelgeuse's appearance over the year? I ask because PX passed quite close to it and to me it looks like the star may have expanded
[16:58] <rnthomas> But it will be quite nice to get that monster online.
[16:59] <zepar> so does steve still have access to the telescope he has been using?
[16:59] <rnthomas> Could it be Gavitational Lensing?
[16:59] <rnthomas> Nope, he is using a scope down in the states to get images...
[17:00] <rnthomas> But it's a very nice setup, much better then what I've got here to use...
[17:01] <rnthomas> They are using a 12 inch scope, and imaging it at 240+ seconds across 15 images.  Then adding all the images together to get 'something' to appear...
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[17:01] <rnthomas> So it's still pretty hard to image this thing as of right now..
[17:02] <alnilamcentre> do you know what star it is nearby RN?
[17:02] <alnilamcentre> i cannot make heads or tails of those primitive images on ZT
[17:03] <rnthomas> Well, what you need to do is take the RA and DEC numbers and punch em into one of the many astronomical chart making sites on the net...
[17:03] <rnthomas> That's how I figure out where it is.
[17:03] <rnthomas> Lemme find ya a link... BRB..
[17:03] <alnilamcentre> oh THOSE are the functions for coordinates. I understand. thank you
[17:04] <alnilamcentre> no dont worry, i have tried endlessly to find a link to a specific location of PX
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[17:05] <QueenVee> hello tenshu
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[17:05] <QueenVee> wb Lady
[17:05] <rnthomas> Here is a link...
[17:05] <rnthomas> http://www.polaris.net/services/starchart/starchart.php
[17:06] <LadyInRed> ty and you too
[17:06] <alnilamcentre> ah a starchart
[17:06] <alnilamcentre> thank you very much
[17:06] <rnthomas> That will take the zetatalk coordinates and turn it into something useful
[17:06] <QueenVee> how so, RN?
[17:06] <alnilamcentre> I had gathered :) I am most appreciative
[17:06] <LadyInRed> brb
[17:07] <rnthomas> You can punch in the ZT coordinates, and it will draw you a chart of the standard constellations nearby...
[17:07] <rnthomas> Helps to zero the telescope in onto Px's location.
[17:07] <rnthomas> But understand that unless your running 12 inches, or bigger, you're not gonna see anything.
[17:07] <QueenVee> RN: sorry to be irritating lazy sot -- but could you possible walk us through it...?
[17:08] <rnthomas> Ok... QV do you have a RA and DEC numbers off the zetatalk site handy?
[17:09] <rnthomas> On the form that appears, all you do is punch in the Zetatalk RA number into the blank labelled...
[17:09] <alnilamcentre> so it is near aldeberan
[17:09] <alnilamcentre> i do
[17:09] <alnilamcentre> RA 4.36743
[17:09] <rnthomas> Right Ascension
[17:09] <alnilamcentre> DEC 12.12001
[17:09] <rnthomas> That's what RA means...
[17:09] <alnilamcentre> thank you VERY much RNthomas
[17:09] <rnthomas> DEC is the Declination...  You put that into the other blank.
[17:09] <QueenVee> and in Declination and Scale?
[17:10] <rnthomas> The Degrees is like your scale factor...
[17:10] <rnthomas> You can punch in something like 90 degree view of the sky for a wide view...
[17:10] <rnthomas> If you lower the number of degrees slowly, you'll ZOOM INTO the location of Px...
[17:11] <QueenVee> RN: the coordinates page only provides the RA....
[17:11] <rnthomas> Their map isn't all that detailed, I use it more for getting an idea of where Px is, and where to point a telescope at.
[17:11] <rnthomas> Nope it also provides the declination.. Look closer...
[17:11] <LadyInRed> what about the other blanks?
[17:12] <alnilamcentre> yes, the dec is 12.12001
[17:12] <LadyInRed> Title? do you put anything there?
[17:12] <QueenVee> lol, i thought that was the date....
[17:12] <rnthomas> RA 4.36743 Dec 12.12001 Dec 29, 2002
[17:12] <alnilamcentre> I just calculated a further declination and PX definitely comes close to Saturn... this catastrophy is for sure
[17:12] <rnthomas> That's from the ZT talk site.
[17:12] <QueenVee> thank you, thank you
[17:12] <rnthomas> DEc of 12.12001 is the dec number.
[17:13] <QueenVee> yep, got it now
[17:13] <rnthomas> The only other tricky thing is the scale or degree number...
[17:13] <QueenVee> my head is very dense, takes a while to get through
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[17:13] <LadyInRed> me too Queen lol
[17:13] <QueenVee> hello TheThinker
[17:13] <QueenVee> where do you hail from?
[17:13] <rnthomas> I tried to zoom it up to about 6 degrees, and he spot being looked at by steve is still very tiny compared to the 6 degree chart!
[17:14] <TheThinker1> I'm italian
[17:14] <rnthomas> QV: Your welcome... Hope it helps...
[17:14] <LadyInRed> do you have to pick the constellation?
[17:14] <zepar> hello thinker
[17:14] <TheThinker1> hello all
[17:14] <LadyInRed> hi Thinker
[17:14] <QueenVee> what's the news on Mt.Etna?
[17:14] <rnthomas> alnilamcentre: I suspect your scope won't be able to see it yet...
[17:14] <TheThinker1> nothing special
[17:15] <alnilamcentre> judging from thaT MAP, i have ascertained that Betelgeuese has indeed been affected... and if PX can affect a red supergiant then we are screwed for sure
[17:15] <alnilamcentre> not unless I have an XRay scope, like chandra, RN
[17:15] <rnthomas> Lady: nope...  Simply punching in the RA and Dec and degrees to view is
[17:15] <rnthomas> all that's needed...
[17:15] <rnthomas> alnilamcentre:- Well I sure as heck don't LOL!
[17:16] <LadyInRed> ty
[17:16] <LadyInRed> got it
[17:16] <TheThinker1> Have you taken new photo of planet x?
[17:16] <alnilamcentre> i just wish humanityas a whole wasnt so primitive thanks to STS
[17:16] <QueenVee> Thinker: the latest pics and analysis can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
[17:17] <TheThinker1> ok
[17:17] <TheThinker1> thanks
[17:17] <alnilamcentre> QV, another question, if you please...
[17:17] <QueenVee> alnil: that's like saying i wish 3rd graders were in highschool -- learning the pros and cons of orientation is the entire purpose of being in third density
[17:17] <QueenVee> we had to go through it to get to the next stage
[17:18] <alnilamcentre> yes but using that same metaphore
[17:18] <rnthomas> alnilamcentre:- Do you have images that can show the gravitational lensing, that would be pretty useful..
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[17:18] <QueenVee> g'day Muga