Session Start: Sat Dec 28 00:00:00 2002
Session Ident: #poleshiftdiscussion
[00:00] <fetus> hi
[00:01] <Rich> hi fetus where in world are you
[00:01] <Rich> i'm in new zealand
[00:01] <fetus> canada
[00:02] <Rich> west or east canada
[00:02] <fetus> west
[00:02] <Rich> good side after poleshift:)
[00:03] <Rich> you visit here regularly
[00:04] <Rich> i'm new myself (past week)
[00:05] <fetus> new to what?
[00:05] <Rich> to this discussion list
[00:06] <fetus> yes im here often
[00:06] <inkpen> rich join  #EarthChanges
[00:06] <Rich> I'm can't get there tryed before
[00:07] <fetus> type:         /join #earthchanges
[00:07] <Rich> no provision on my server thingy to get to #EarthChanges
[00:07] <Rich> cool
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[00:08] <fetus> with the /
[00:08] <fetus> -  /join
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[00:48] <MattJB> hey
[00:49] <scooby> hey matt
[00:49] <scooby> we're all in #earthchanges
[00:49] <fetus> trying to keep it clean :)
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[01:07] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/shavas22.htm new images
[01:07] <inkpen> hi obany
[01:07] <inkpen> hi mattjb
[01:07] <inkpen> opps left :)
[01:07] <inkpen> kewl obany thnx
[01:08] <obany> hi and bbl ..... going to drink some coffee... i woke up like 28 minuts ago or so
[01:08] <inkpen> join #earthchanges thats were everyone is
[01:08] <inkpen> oh lol
[01:08] <inkpen> im about to go to bed :)
[01:08] <obany> ehehehehehe :)
[01:08] <obany> what a crazy world :P
[01:09] <inkpen> no kiddin
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[01:28] <inkpen> hi humvee
[01:28] <humvee> hi pen wats up
[01:28] <inkpen>  join #earthchanges thats were everyone is
[01:29] <humvee> thanks
[01:29] <inkpen> np
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[02:49] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/shavas22.htm new images
[02:55] <obany> New images are available, 3 x 1200 sec 1 x binning taken last night. The coordinates for Dec 29 are
[02:55] <obany> Ra 4 22 3 Dec 12 7 12.
[02:55] <obany> For a general area to look at, a new smudge shows up just below and to the right of those
[02:55] <obany> coordinates. A new cluster of spots also show up to the left and a tad higher than those
[02:55] <obany> coordinates. These spots show up well on al three images and are not on the NEAT or DSS images.
[02:55] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam342.htm
[02:55] <obany> Nothing has been circled on those images as of yet but a quick comparison to a DSS image should
[02:55] <obany> easily show that the new spots I have mentioned are not present.
[02:57] <Rabbi> this sounds like the biggest bunch of BS ever
[02:57] <Rabbi> =p~
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[05:38] <obany> hi
[05:39] <QueenVee> hi obany
[05:39] <QueenVee> i got confused about what day it was -- thought it was Friday, not Saturday
[05:40] <obany> :) maybe because of x-mas day etc ... ... but wel it's Saturday
[05:41] <QueenVee> yes.... forgot to send out notices about ZetaTalk session...
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[05:59] <Jurian> wow, if any of you hasn't seen "taken" yet, you absolutely HAVE to :)
[05:59] <QueenVee> i don't get that channel  :-(
[05:59] <Jurian> it is, by far, the best series I've ever seen
[06:02] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/shavas22.htm new images btw .. queenvee
[06:02] <QueenVee> thanks obany
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[07:29] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/shavas22.htm new images
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[07:58] <Dr> Hello, Dr here, long time reader of Zeta 3 years and first time chat
[08:00] <obany> hi DR
[08:00] <Dr> hi obany, is there a particular theme being discussed here today?
[08:02] <obany> well DR there will be a zetatalk session today in this channel about about 4hours and 28 minuts from now ... and well before that discussion etc ...
[08:02] <obany> right now it's just a little quiet
[08:04] <Dr> thank you
[08:10] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/index/browne.htm |and DR you there is a page with new pictures http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/shavas22.htm
[08:17] <Dr> thanks again
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[08:26] <QueenVee> hello Dr
[08:28] <Dr> Hi QueenVee
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[08:28] <QueenVee> welcome
[08:28] <Dr> Great work that you do, thank you very much from my extended community
[08:29] <QueenVee> i understand you have been a long-time reader of zetatalk
[08:29] <QueenVee> thank you
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[08:29] <QueenVee> what part of the world do you live in?
[08:29] <QueenVee> hi tex
[08:29] <QueenVee> tex: are ya home now?
[08:29] <from_Texas> yes i'm at home at last
[08:29] <QueenVee> how did the birth go???
[08:29] <from_Texas> it has not happened yet
[08:30] <QueenVee> still in labour????
[08:30] <from_Texas> she is still at home
[08:30] <from_Texas> false labour only to this point
[08:30] <QueenVee> oh... phew
[08:30] <from_Texas> she is doing good
[08:30] <QueenVee> Dr:  what part of the world do you live in?
[08:31] <QueenVee> i was afraid she'd been in labour that long -- as Rita Rudner once said, "I don't even want to do something that feels good for that long"....
[08:32] <from_Texas> i have decided it's a good thing it's women that have babies... if it were the men we would have died out along time ago
[08:32] <QueenVee> lol
[08:32] <QueenVee> true enough
[08:33] <QueenVee> either that, or test tube baby technology would have been invented centuries ago....
[08:33] <Dr> i'm in southern africa
[08:33] <from_Texas> true
[08:34] <QueenVee> Dr: are you in a safe location?
[08:34] <QueenVee> i don't recall what ZT says about SA
[08:34] <Dr> yes indeed
[08:34] <QueenVee> excellent
[08:34] <QueenVee> you mentioned your extended community -- is that a survival community?
[08:34] <Dr> how about you? safe? where?
[08:35] <QueenVee> yes, i am fortunate. i am in southwestern ontario canada
[08:35] <QueenVee> i just had to move away from the big city (Toronto) to the country...
[08:35] <Dr> no, a community of like-minded travellers, very experienced in surviving shifts
[08:36] <Dr> good move
[08:36] <QueenVee> well, now, you're going to have to elaborate on that last statement
[08:38] <QueenVee> were you speaking metaphorically, about being "experienced in surviving shifts"?
[08:38] <QueenVee> or are you old souls who have been through it before?
[08:38] <Dr> we have been rural for several years, having had some knowledge of interplanetary developments for some time (ie a few cycles)
[08:38] <QueenVee> ah, i see
[08:39] <QueenVee> you have had the knowledge passed down
[08:39] <Dr> exactly, and are bound by duty and inclination to assist
[08:39] <QueenVee> i have just read the section on South Africa in ZT -- looks like it will be a VERY good place to be after the shift
[08:39] <QueenVee> but it will be risky DURING the shift
[08:40] <QueenVee> are you going to temporarily move inland, or are you at a high altitude?
[08:40] <Dr> its allways kinda risky
[08:40] <QueenVee> ha, yes, no truly SAFE areas
[08:40] <QueenVee> it's good when duty and inclination are on the save wavelength
[08:41] <Dr> we are currently monitoring magnetics on the eastern seaboard
[08:41] <QueenVee> i have known several people from South Africa, and all are extremely beautiful souls....
[08:42] <Dr> we are aware of 'safe' positioning points inland, as well as at several high alt co-ords
[08:42] * from_Texas is going for shower
[08:42] * from_Texas is now known as tex-away
[08:42] <QueenVee> tex: too much information....
[08:42] <Dr> thank you for your kind words, Safricans are not popular everywhere
[08:42] <tex-away> lol
[08:43] <QueenVee> they are very popular where in activist communities... they kick some serious ass
[08:44] <Dr> we are a bit of that, i admit
[08:44] <QueenVee> people after my own heart   ;-)
[08:44] <Dr> do you have a community supporting you?
[08:45] <QueenVee> no, i have been called to assist my family members...
[08:45] <QueenVee> and friends....
[08:45] <QueenVee> and whatever others may join us...
[08:45] <QueenVee> i will be in a leading position
[08:46] <QueenVee> my mother is aware, and receptive to the reality of the shift....
[08:46] <QueenVee> but she is not aware yet of its full implications
[08:46] <QueenVee> my family will be relying on me
[08:47] <QueenVee> people in this part of the world have not experienced much hardship, and it is hard for them to even conceive of it
[08:47] <QueenVee> as ZT says, those in less prosperous parts of the world will actually fare better in the aftertime
[08:47] <QueenVee> they already have nothing, and know how to get by on nothing
[08:48] <QueenVee> people in the west will be paralyzed with shock and disbelief
[08:48] <Dr> thank you, i am aware how difficult  your task is, and it demands great effort on the inside, preparing those given to our care through careful, focussed thought activity
[08:49] <QueenVee> well, i've been in training all my life, i've been aware of the coming poleshift since i was very young
[08:49] <Dr> so it is, and many will reveal their heroic natures
[08:49] <QueenVee> it is a very interesting (and exciting) and difficult time for us to have chosen to be incarnated into... yes....?
[08:50] <Dr> yes!!!!! ...and how good to meet fellow travellers with such a good energy as yourself
[08:50] <QueenVee> i can't believe how very clearly i have been led thus far, and therefore have a lot of confidence in being safely led in the future
[08:51] <QueenVee> i was saying to someone here yesterday, that the uncertainty that the shift represents (in terms of lack of the kind of concrete "proof" that people are looking for) is part of the journey itself....
[08:52] <QueenVee> the sources of information that we have come to rely on are proving false, inaccurate, and deceptive....
[08:52] <Dr> it is, ultimately, a benevolent universe, and the Path is very demanding
[08:52] <QueenVee> and we must turn to other sources, namely our own inner knowledge....
[08:53] <QueenVee> the challenge is learning to trust it
[08:53] <QueenVee> yes, that is key -- to realize that it IS ultimately a benevolent universe
[08:53] <QueenVee> no matter how difficult the path
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[08:54] <Dr> have you encountered a russian word 'podvig'
[08:54] <QueenVee> are there children and adolescents in your community?
[08:54] <QueenVee> no, don't know that word
[08:55] <Dr> there are children and adoloscents, and some still on the way
[08:55] <QueenVee> wonderful
[08:55] <QueenVee> a podvig is a spiritual ascetic, yes?
[08:56] <Dr> the word is not easily translated : it means a heroic disposition that is inextricably linked to striving of the spirit
[08:56] <QueenVee> good word
[08:56] <Dr> i feel this is what you are describing above?
[08:56] <QueenVee> yes, indeed
[08:57] <Dr> I believe the phrase is "word up, holmes"
[08:57] <QueenVee> lol
[08:57] <Dr> but maybe not in Ontario
[08:58] <QueenVee> so have you been aware of the poleshift all your life?
[08:58] <Dr> no, for a decade or so
[08:58] <Dr> consciously anyway
[08:59] <QueenVee> from what source?
[09:00] * QueenVee sighs, having received yet another email of complaint....
[09:00] <Dr> subtle world (or what people call dreams) guidance to evidence such as Velikovsky in order to catalyse further searches out of body to remind and confirm
[09:00] <QueenVee> ah, ok
[09:01] <QueenVee> same here
[09:01] <Dr> ZT was good too!
[09:01] <Dr> i only became a netizen four years ago, and it was good to know there were others out there
[09:01] <QueenVee> dreams, Edgar Cayce, a local psychic/chaneller i studied with as a teenager, the Seth Material, Velikovsky, Stichin, finally ZetaTalk...
[09:02] <QueenVee> interesting how i discovered zetatalk....
[09:03] <Dr> uh huh?
[09:03] <QueenVee> after a series of happenings in my life that led me away from Toronto back to my hometown area....
[09:03] <QueenVee> i became consumed with crop circles, felt strongly that they conveyed a message....
[09:03] <QueenVee> on someone's advice, i meditated on images of them...
[09:04] <QueenVee> within days i came upon the zetatalk site, and when i found it...
[09:04] <QueenVee> i had a strong feeling of YES, THIS IS IT
[09:05] <QueenVee> the rest is history, as they say
[09:05] <Dr> Nancy and her people do have a serious mission, the implications for them, in the broader scheme, are very serious
[09:06] <QueenVee> elaborate please
[09:07] <Dr> obviously the system doesn't revolve around this planet and its issues
[09:07] <QueenVee> you mean that spreading the message represents some danger to them?
[09:08] <Dr> but the issues are very important to the system, (including all dimensions not generally acknowledged)
[09:08] <QueenVee> yes, govt is aware...
[09:09] <Dr> well, as much as it is dangerous for all of us: according to our individual and group responsibility and account
[09:09] <Dr> I mean the planetary system
[09:11] <QueenVee> i'm not sure i follow you.... sorry....
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[09:13] <Dr> ZT has hinted at the 'service for self'   or 'service for other' polarity
[09:13] <QueenVee> more than hinted...
[09:13] <QueenVee> Kain: hello
[09:13] <Dr> and that there is active choice involved
[09:13] <QueenVee> yes
[09:13] <Kain> Hi Qv
[09:14] <QueenVee> Kain: Dr lives in South Africa
[09:14] <Dr> the choices are not entirely with respect to earth issues
[09:14] <QueenVee> Kain is in Texas
[09:14] <tex-away> what part of Texas
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[09:14] <Kain> central.. Austin
[09:14] <from_Texas> Abilene here
[09:15] <QueenVee>  the choices are not entirely with respect to earth issues -- can you explain a bit?
[09:15] <Kain> ready to relocate from_texas?
[09:16] <from_Texas> yes i'm ready
[09:16] <from_Texas> think we will move our company to New Mexico
[09:16] <from_Texas> very soon
[09:17] <Dr> the choice to do earth beneficial service does not find its motive here, it is a product of the broader Zeta history
[09:17] <QueenVee> Tex: "our company" being...?
[09:17] <from_Texas> the company I work with... only 4 families
[09:18] <Kain> how long have you been aware f_T?
[09:18] <from_Texas> we do research and development.. write patents
[09:19] <Kain> what time will Nancy be here in CST?
[09:19] <QueenVee> Kain: in 3hrs, 15 minutes
[09:19] <from_Texas> have been studing coming events for many years... aware of Zeta about 1 year
[09:19] <QueenVee> Kain: what time zone are you in?
[09:20] <from_Texas> central.. same as me
[09:20] <Kain> Central
[09:20] <QueenVee> okay, 2:30pm your time
[09:20] <QueenVee> Kain: if you have any questions for the agenda, you have to run them by me before the session...
[09:20] <QueenVee> the earlier the better
[09:21] <Kain> okay QV..
[09:21] <Kain> Hey.. did anyone hear Richard C Hoagland with Art Bell last night?
[09:21] <QueenVee> oh my
[09:22] <QueenVee> not moi
[09:22] <from_Texas> QueenVee: I'm having a hard time deciding where the high plains end and the foot hills of the sierras begin
[09:22] <from_Texas> zt says the high plains will flood up to that point
[09:22] <QueenVee> tex: not sure what you mean -- you mean you're having trouble knowing what ZT is referring to when talking about your area?
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[09:23] <from_Texas> QueenVee: yes that covers such a large area
[09:23] <QueenVee> tex: well, my understand of what ZT has said about texas, is that there will be severe climbing of the water, and therefore in that area you have to get to an even higher elevation than anywhere else....
[09:23] <QueenVee> so i would go by elevation
[09:24] <QueenVee> hello Boy
[09:24] <BoY> hi
[09:24] <QueenVee> tex: does that make sense?
[09:24] <from_Texas> do you still have the topo map i sent you?
[09:24] <Kain> Hoagland suggested that its not just Earth experiencing climate changes.. but the whole solar system is warming.. Suggested that there may be 2-3 other planets affecting the rest us.. pointed out Plutos eliptical orbit, how sometimes its closer than Neptune...
[09:25] <QueenVee> Tex: mmm, sorry, no. can you send it again?
[09:25] <Kain> Validation of Px coming from various sources these days..
[09:25] <QueenVee> Kain: yes, that is absolutely true. not just theory, established scientific community has commented on it....
[09:29] <QueenVee> tex: there's no key with the map -- what elevation does the yellow and green areas represent?
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[09:29] <QueenVee> hello inside
[09:29] <Inside-Revolution> HEllo! :)
[09:29] <Inside-Revolution> I had a question idea
[09:30] <Kain> Alright gang.. gonna go get some things done before Nancy's next session..
[09:30] <Inside-Revolution> is it on the zetasite about Kryon?
[09:30] <QueenVee> later Kain
[09:30] <Inside-Revolution> if not I would like to ask zetas aboiut it
[09:30] <Kain> Don't have any questions right now QV.. but would love to observe..
[09:30] <QueenVee> inside: no, and nancy doesn't accept those kind of questions anymore
[09:30] <QueenVee> observe away...
[09:30] <from_Texas> below 500' is light green 500-1000 is dark green. 1000-2000 yellow 2000-3000 is brown
[09:31] <Inside-Revolution> which king of question?
[09:31] <Inside-Revolution> which kind of question?
[09:31] <Inside-Revolution> which is interesting also whic Kryon messages said looks true
[09:31] <Inside-Revolution> about spiritual revolution
[09:31] <Inside-Revolution> similar like Zetas said
[09:32] <Kain> here's one ya'll (yes I grew up in Texas :) ) might be able to answer.. Whitley Strieber, another Texas resident.. if in contact with Zetas why is he not talking about the pole shift?
[09:32] <QueenVee> tex: how far above the circle are you? what colour?
[09:32] <from_Texas> i'm in yellow now.. at top of circle
[09:33] <Inside-Revolution> circle?
[09:33] <Inside-Revolution> which circle?
[09:33] <from_Texas> the property i looked at is in the brown
[09:33] <Kain> my firset thought is that he's fulfilling another important role.. but???
[09:33] <QueenVee> tex: mmmm, cutting it close at yellow, i think; but brown should be safe....
[09:33] <from_Texas> is there not a circle drawn on the map
[09:34] <QueenVee> Kain: ZT has explained that many contactees shut out information that they are not comfortable with, they do not want to be the bearers of bad news.... or they are affecdted by their own strong personal beliefs.....
[09:34] <QueenVee> Whitely knows something is up....
[09:35] <QueenVee> but has translated it in terms of his SUPER STORM theory....
[09:35] <QueenVee> he is a staunch catholic, and i suspect that his religious beliefs  prevent him from being to accept the level of cataclysm that is to come
[09:36] <QueenVee> and, yes, he IS fulfilling another important role
[09:36] <QueenVee> the zetas have said that
[09:36] <QueenVee> tex: so the property you're looking at is west of the circle?
[09:37] <Kain> fair enough.. thanks QV..
[09:37] <Kain> BBL
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[09:37] <QueenVee> inside: nancy no longer accepts questions wanting to know if other alleged ET material is valid or not
[09:38] <Inside-Revolution> why queenvee?
[09:38] <from_Texas> west and south into the brown.. at 2475'
[09:41] <Inside-Revolution> Kryon said, Kryon is from hingher dimension entity
[09:41] <Inside-Revolution> and work about teh correction of Christ Net
[09:41] <QueenVee> tex: what state is is immediately to the west of texas?
[09:41] <Inside-Revolution> which was made after Christ made his sacrifice and become the Planet Spirit of earth
[09:42] <QueenVee> inside: you have to judge for yourself what is valid. please don't ask me about this anymore.
[09:42] <from_Texas> QueenVee: New Mexico
[09:42] <Inside-Revolution> I am sorry, but please tell me what is the problme?
[09:42] <Inside-Revolution> are you angry and busy?
[09:43] <QueenVee> inside, if you don't drop it, i will kick you -- OK
[09:43] <QueenVee> inside: that includes messaging me privately
[09:44] <QueenVee> tex: if it were my, i'd say that would be a fairly safe location
[09:44] <QueenVee> my=me
[09:44] <Inside-Revolution> oh
[09:44] <Inside-Revolution> what did I do bad?
[09:44] <QueenVee> tex: what's your gut feeling about it?
[09:45] <from_Texas> my gut feel is: it's OK
[09:45] <QueenVee> i'm in a similar situation, located between two of the Great Lakes, just far enough inland from either to be safe by sloshing, according to ZT
[09:48] <QueenVee> brb, phone
[09:48] <from_Texas> QueenVee: I see all the yellow and greens being flooded
[09:49] <obany> QueenVee: i am not ecactly sure if he is staunch catholic... don't remember reading it... and i did read some books by him
[09:50] <QueenVee> obany: yes, very catholic
[09:51] <obany> yet he is influenced also for what i know ... Gurdijeff
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[09:52] <obany> QueenVee: and maybe he does know... but find it well to hard to take into consideration
[09:53] <QueenVee> obany: if you read this, you will see Strieber refer to himself as a Catholic Fundamentalist:  http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shuttle/5604/dreamland2.html
[09:53] <QueenVee> hello Mulder
[09:53] <Mulder> Hi Queen
[09:53] <QueenVee> Dr: here's an example of the kind of questions people ask me to put on the agenda, vis a vis what we were talking about earlier:
[09:53] <QueenVee> Inhabitants of PlanetX are aware of the upcoming pass
[09:53] <QueenVee> with earth, and they also have anti-gravity technology
[09:53] <QueenVee> that we are aware of. We must be allowed to
[09:53] <QueenVee> communicate with the inhabitants of PlanetX to create
[09:53] <QueenVee> a space-shield that could diminish the effects of the
[09:53] <QueenVee> pass. As both Earth and PlanetX are 3rd Density we
[09:54] <QueenVee> should be allowed to work together to save ourselves.
[09:54] <QueenVee> If this contact is prohibited by the Council of
[09:54] <QueenVee> Worlds, then we must be allowed to petition this body
[09:54] <QueenVee> on our own behalf.
[09:54] <QueenVee> Total disconnect
[09:54] <obany> wierd question
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[09:55] <QueenVee> not really a question -- more of a childish demand
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[09:55] <QueenVee> and this is from someone who comes to this room quite regularly and has hitherto seemed a reasonably intelligent person....
[09:56] <steveaway> hello!
[09:56] <QueenVee> hi steve
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[09:56] <obany> he Steve Havas
[09:56] <obany> new pictures yes i know ...
[09:56] <QueenVee> lol -- that's funny
[09:57] <SteveH> I took some new ones last night as well
[09:57] <SteveH> http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/shavas22.htm
[09:57] <QueenVee> this is what i was about to post to you, obany: obany: if you're not too stoned, can you please let Steve know about the new images
[09:57] <obany> QueenVee: i was joking with himitsu
[09:57] <SteveH> shows a very large, diffuse new object
[09:57] <QueenVee> obany: and i was joking with you....
[09:58] <obany> QueenVee: :)
[09:58] <QueenVee> SteveH: great stuff!
[09:58] <SteveH> especially shows up well on the Dec 28 images
[09:58] <QueenVee> they get better and better, eh?
[09:59] <SteveH> that seems to be the pattern. The moon was not out at all last the last two nights so the images are very clear
[09:59] <QueenVee> Steve: have the zetas given any indication of how clear the images should become in time -- e.g. a month from now, two months from now, two weeks before the shift, etc.
[10:00] <SteveH> No, not really but I imagine the objects will continue to rapidly grow in size and brightness
[10:01] <QueenVee> mmm, i'm wondering at what point it will become obvious enough for the establishment to have to comment on it....
[10:02] <SteveH> Well, it looks like Dave Tholen and IMO are no longer willing to comment on the images
[10:02] <SteveH> so maybe the plan is just not to comment
[10:03] <QueenVee> SteveH: did you read Cunningham's announcement that he wouldn't be showing any of HIS pics until after June 2003?
[10:03] <SteveH> I sent in a claim to the AIU but got a big run around. The end result was that they refused to look at the images, said they were too busy to look at everyone who send images in etc.
[10:04] <QueenVee> AIU?
[10:04] <Dr> Steve, could you assist? I downloaded the software for the FITS files, bu the links load gobbledygook and/or I'm unaware of how to use the software
[10:04] <SteveH> the astronomical institute for new discoveries
[10:04] <QueenVee> ah...
[10:05] <SteveH> you have to open the images through the software. Open the software then go to "open" and select the files
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[10:06] <obany> don't even bother to talk to himitsu :) he says he didn't saw anything on #troubled_times
[10:06] <butch> hello everyone
[10:06] <Dr> and how do i download the files ... the GIF or FIT files?
[10:06] <SteveH> We went back and forth about ten times in dialogue, I followed all their protocal but in the end the would not look at the images or comment if they thought there was something new there or not.
[10:06] <QueenVee> hey butch
[10:07] <SteveH> so a dead end road as I expected it would be
[10:07] <QueenVee> SteveH: bizarre
[10:07] <butch> hi QueenVee
[10:07] <obany> SteveH: well that does say something, and yet those peoiple on sci.astro are saying why don't you ... send it go the AIU
[10:07] <QueenVee> SteveH: did you communicate with them by email?
[10:07] <butch> sounds like they're scared...lol
[10:09] <SteveH> yes, by email. They were very fast to respond. I sent them the files by email, ftp, bitmap. Even when the image was right on the email they said they could not open the files
[10:09] <obany> sigh
[10:09] <SteveH> and in the end they would not respond further
[10:09] <obany> and you send in the fits ?
[10:10] <SteveH> yes, also links to where they could download the files
[10:10] <QueenVee> SteveH: i would love to post your correspondence with them on our website, to illustrate how the establishment is responding to this...
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[10:10] <obany> i guess that they jus't don't want to answer
[10:10] <QueenVee> hi zod
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[10:10] <SteveH> I could send you the dialogue QueenVee
[10:11] <QueenVee> Please do Steve!
[10:11] <QueenVee> queenvee@hotmail.com
[10:11] <SteveH> ok
[10:12] <QueenVee> and we can ask people to advise us on how we might better get a response.... maybe even instigate a letter-writing campaign.... get people to demand that they at least look at the files....
[10:12] <QueenVee> but we can talk about that later....
[10:12] <SteveH> brb
[10:12] <butch> are these newer images...other than the ones from mid december??
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[10:13] <Inside-Revolution> Queenvee I read on zetatalk Hungary will be a good place in the events Will all place ok in Hunagry or we need to move?
[10:13] <QueenVee> butch: from last night!
[10:13] <zod> Greeting all
[10:13] <obany> well if they already know about this planet... doubt that demanding from them to look at it will help much
[10:13] <butch> cool
[10:13] <butch> hi zod
[10:14] <zod> Hopefully another splendid session tonight
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[10:14] <vaulb> hohoo
[10:14] <QueenVee> inside, this is what ZT says about Hungary. seems pretty clear to me:
[10:14] <butch> i've been checking out the new comet recently discovered in my small scope
[10:14] <vaulb> session today?
[10:14] <QueenVee> WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 2.5 hrs. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion.
[10:15] <vaulb> k
[10:15] <obany> David Cantu on sci.astro ... doh go figure ..
[10:16] <QueenVee> what does he say? noise?
[10:16] <obany> nah something else
[10:16] <Inside-Revolution> Everybody welcome to hungary! :)
[10:17] <BoY> :)
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[10:19] <Sano> hi ppl
[10:19] <QueenVee> Obany: WHO IS THAT ASSHOLE????
[10:19] <QueenVee> not you, sano!
[10:19] <QueenVee> hello sano
[10:19] <Sano> i c :)
[10:19] <obany> David Cantu
[10:20] <SteveH> QueenVee, I just sent you an email
[10:20] <QueenVee> obany: i'm speechless
[10:20] <QueenVee> thanks Steve!
[10:20] <obany> SteveH: did you read those 2 postings by cantu
[10:20] <QueenVee> obany: under what name does he participate on IRC?
[10:20] <SteveH> no, not yet
[10:21] <QueenVee> obany: please put moderation mode on and post that one here
[10:21] <QueenVee> the first one i mean
[10:21] <QueenVee> the one you sent to me privately
[10:21] <Sano> tell me when ZetaTalk Session begins??? after 2 hours? am i right?
[10:22] <obany> moment
[10:22] <QueenVee> Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 2 hours. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion.
[10:22] <QueenVee> IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[10:22] * obany sets mode: +m
[10:22] <obany> Let me start right off by Godwinizing my own thread and call the
[10:22] <obany> Zetadrones what they have become for me, ZetaNazis.
[10:22] <obany> I base this term on their own writings and actions and plans for the
[10:22] <obany> "after-time". While the claim is that these individual serve others, in
[10:22] <obany> fact, I have seen them serve only themselves and their motivations seem
[10:22] <obany> related to the exalted status that they see themselves having after the
[10:22] <obany> passing of their supposed planet.
[10:22] <obany> This is evidenced by their controlling tactics designed to silence
[10:22] <obany> dissent, their stated desire that planet X come by so they can laugh at
[10:22] <obany> all the dead skeptics, but even more by their basic belief and plans for
[10:22] <obany> the time after passage.
[10:22] <obany> They believe that, a few years after passing, the Earth will be free of
[10:22] <obany> all "service to self" individuals and that they will pass into a new age
[10:22] <obany> as perfected beings, reincarnated into hybrid alien bodies (apparently
[10:22] <obany> such bodies are pre-prepared, but "soulless"). In the immediate days
[10:22] <obany> after the passing of their supposed planet, they wish to construct a
[10:22] <obany> "service to other" community which will be dictatorial due to its need
[10:22] <obany> to filter out "service to self" individuals for the coming "perfected
[10:22] <obany> Earth".
[10:22] <obany> Since they believe that it is the soul of the individual that is so
[10:23] <obany> inclined, there will be no real attempt to convert STS individuals to
[10:23] <obany> STO status, and the existence of STS persons will be a roadblock to
[10:23] <obany> their vision of a perfected society.
[10:23] <obany> So what will they do with the STS individuals that they ferret out of
[10:23] <obany> their society?
[10:23] <obany> In rooting out "STS" behavior patterns it would be most efficient, and
[10:23] <obany> in line with their belief system and past actions, to create "camps" to
[10:23] <obany> put these "STS" individuals in before they can contaminate STO society
[10:23] <obany> at large. Just as they cast debaters from their midst on IRC and chat
[10:23] <obany> rooms, they will take action of some kind to keep STS labeled
[10:23] <obany> individuals from influencing their after-times culture. In fact, one
[10:23] <obany> might take their behavior in such circumstances as IRC as an indicator
[10:23] <obany> of how they would run a society, if given the chance, and they believe
[10:23] <obany> that this is exactly the chance they will get.
[10:23] <obany> In fact to bring about a "perfected Earth", and since they believe that
[10:23] <obany> there is no "soul death" and that such individuals will be reincarnated
[10:23] <obany> on other worlds, it is likely that these camps will become death camps.
[10:23] <obany> And they will believe that they are truly serving others by ridding the
[10:23] <obany> world of those who serve themselves, without seeing the inherent irony
[10:23] <obany> in this logic.
[10:23] <obany> Thus, I make the following declaration.
[10:23] <obany> If it should happen that 90% of the human population is destroyed on or
[10:23] <obany> around May 2003, I shall survive. And further, I will use my influence
[10:23] <obany> as a black magician to raise an STS army to find every Zeta sympathizer,
[10:23] * obany sets mode: -m
[10:23] <obany> and wipe them from the face of this planet.
[10:23] <obany> If you then reincarnate into hybrid bodies, all the better, for we will
[10:24] <obany> know who you are and you will be ours.
[10:24] <obany> This is a declaration of War.
[10:24] <SteveH> Cantu says the blob is bigger than anything else in the image
[10:24] <obany> In the unlikely event that this scenario comes to pass, we will win...
[10:24] <obany> We always do.
[10:24] <obany> And my message to the Zetas?
[10:24] <obany> Fear me.
[10:24] <obany> Thanks for your indulgence,
[10:24] <obany> David Cantu
[10:24] <obany> second one
[10:24] <obany> PS.
[10:24] <obany> Should the entire Planet X scenario prove to be the fantasy I think it
[10:24] <obany> is, then you are off the hook.
[10:24] <obany> I will not hunt down and kill any ZetaNazis if Planet X does not come
[10:24] <obany> calling as your leader Nancy predicts (at that point we will be able to
[10:24] <obany> write off the Zetas as source).  However, the horde of lawyers that
[10:24] <obany> descends upon you will do enough damage to elicit satisfaction.
[10:24] <obany> PPS.
[10:24] <obany> I do not envision myself as the leader of an STS revolt, I would not be
[10:24] <obany> effective enough in that role.
[10:24] <obany> However, I do see myself as that evil advisor who has the King's ear (or
[10:24] <obany> perhaps has him by the balls) and I am Very effective in such roles;
[10:24] <obany> hence my label as a known black magician.
[10:24] <obany> PPPS.
[10:24] <obany> If any of the UFO's I have witnessed belonged to the Zetas, then you
[10:24] <obany> know where I am.
[10:24] <obany> Come and get me.
[10:24] <obany> Fuck, er, uh, thank you very much,
[10:24] <obany> Zed
[10:25] <obany> that same Cantu
[10:25] <obany> sigh
[10:25] <obany> by his postings he doesn't sound like mr nice guy
[10:25] <QueenVee> obany: remove moderation
[10:25] <obany> i already did :)
[10:25] <SteveH> He sounds like he had too much time on his hands
[10:25] <QueenVee> under what name does he post on IRC?
[10:26] <QueenVee> where does all that anger come from?
[10:26] <obany> i don't know if he joins in IRC
[10:26] <QueenVee> well, he goes on and on about how there is no debate on IRC, etc.
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[10:28] <obany> i ah see what he says about the picture
[10:28] <obany> Have you tried any control experiments, by imaging and similarly
[10:28] <obany> processing, other regions of the sky to rule out noise?
[10:28] <obany> That blob is bigger than anything else in the image.
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[10:29] <QueenVee> hello humvee
[10:29] <SteveH> there were no big blobs that showed up when I began taking the images back in september
[10:29] <obany> SteveH: the blob is that the dark part is see in the sum or ?
[10:29] <SteveH> so they are a recent phenomenom
[10:29] <SteveH> yes, that's the spot
[10:30] * QueenVee thinks there may not be enough coffee in the world to get her through this day....
[10:30] <SteveH> drinking too much coffee only makes me tired :)
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[10:32] <QueenVee> hi tied
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[10:33] <obany> i do seem some well dark spots in the spot itself ...
[10:33] <obany> wish i knew how to use a coordinate finder in a pic itself
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[10:33] <SteveH> the thing the debunkers miss when the try to say it's noise or artifacts is that those do not show up on an image that way. Those blobs are caused by the CCD reading incoming light
[10:34] <SteveH> if it was dust or dew the blobs would show up the opposite
[10:34] <QueenVee> yes, exactly
[10:34] <SteveH> in a negative of the image they would show up as a light spot, not a dark spot
[10:35] <SteveH> that they show up on all images they are not noise, well above background
[10:36] <QueenVee> makes sense to me? have you pointed this out to them? how do they respond?
[10:36] <obany> and well Michael C using the exuse that your software ain't good sigh
[10:36] <QueenVee> Cunningham has completely lost the droplet of credibility he had, in my opinion
[10:37] <SteveH> they would respond with the usual banter, or come up with some new feeble reason that the objects are not real
[10:37] <obany> the same things counts for me .. steveh how do you lookup the coordiantes in the picture  ?
[10:37] <obany> coordinates
[10:37] <obany> stupid fingers
[10:37] <SteveH> MC has gone off the deepend in my opinion, no coming back for him!
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[10:38] <humvee> There has been much talk of the probability of a large Chinese migration thru Russia & Alaska into North America in the next decade due to lack of food etc at home. Question: With the shift , rising water level of the oceans afterwards should this military possibility be considered when picking a safe location area?
[10:38] <SteveH> on sci.astro I gave the x,y coordinates. You can find that by just moving your mouse over the image
[10:39] <obany> SteveH: ok
[10:39] <SteveH> I find the RA, Dec by looking at a DSS or NEAT image
[10:40] <SteveH> brb
[10:41] <humvee> r the DSS images in fits or jpeg as posted
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[10:43] <QueenVee> Sano: go ahead and post whatever question you have, and we'll look at it...
[10:44] <QueenVee> even if it is not accepted for the agenda, we may be able to point you to where it has already been answered on ZT
[10:44] <Sano> humvee we are unlucky in that case of migration chinese .....it could be ware :)
[10:44] <Sano> war i mean
[10:45] <Sano> and we lose :)
[10:45] <humvee> Hello QueenVee yes it could mean that some locations in the path not too good
[10:46] <humvee> I cant see how a land bridge would be there unless land (alution islansd) rising thus the question
[10:47] <QueenVee> Sano: please post your question in the main room please
[10:47] <QueenVee> not privately
[10:47] <Sano> QeenVee its common question?
[10:48] <Sano> and all knews answer on it? :)
[10:48] <QueenVee> Sano: i won't address it until you post it in the room
[10:48] <Sano> What difference between reincarnance in born body and clone body? How clones could have soul, or its dosent matter clone you are or not, if you have mind you also must have soul?
[10:49] <QueenVee> Sano: ZT has made it clearly that the body and soul are not connected, that the soul often does not enter the body until after birth....
[10:49] <QueenVee> they have also found humans' fear of cloning to be amusing....
[10:49] <QueenVee> and state that it is just another means of reproduction.
[10:49] <QueenVee> here is what they have said about it: http://www.zetatalk.com/hybrids/h39.htm
[10:50] <Sano> ok thanks ill reed it
[10:50] <QueenVee> Sano: why do you think that a human body produced by cloning would be any less able to house a soul than a human body produced by another means of reproduction?
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[10:53] <QueenVee> Groomee: WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 2 hours. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion.
[10:53] <QueenVee> IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
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[10:54] <obany> sigh even ouf friend silk is saying agiain that there is nothing there ... what else to expect from sarah mc
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[10:54] <QueenVee> hey michaells
[10:54] <michaellss> hi
[10:55] <michaellss> nice looking and handling website there QV
[10:56] <QueenVee> gee, thanks
[10:56] <michaellss> just checkin in gotta clean house quick back soon
[10:56] <QueenVee> do you do windows?
[10:56] <michaellss> hehe
[10:57] <michaellss> girlfriends got that part
[10:57] <michaellss> i do floors laundry and kitchen lol
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[10:57] <michaellss> bbl
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[10:59] <SteveH> back
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[11:00] <QueenVee> hello green tree
[11:00] <greentree> hi QueenVee :) :)
[11:00] <cmell> hi
[11:00] <greentree> hi cmell :) :)
[11:00] <QueenVee> WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 90 minutes. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion.
[11:00] <QueenVee> IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[11:01] <QueenVee> hiya cmell
[11:01] <QueenVee> greentree: don't think i've seen you here before -- where are you from?
[11:01] <greentree> i'm froggy
[11:01] <greentree> i just had trouble getting on so i changed my name
[11:01] <QueenVee> ah, hi froggy -- can you change your nick back?
[11:02] <greentree> but that was the problem
[11:02] <QueenVee> but you're on now....
[11:02] <greentree> yes, glad to
[11:02] <QueenVee> just type this: /nick froggy
[11:02] <greentree> nick froggy
[11:02] <greentree> lol
[11:03] <QueenVee> ya need the slash  /nick froggy
[11:03] <QueenVee> any command in IRC needs a slash ( / ) in front of it
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[11:04] <Inside-Revolution> is here anybody from america?
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[11:05] <groomee> i'm from utah
[11:05] <Inside-Revolution> is here anybody from america?
[11:05] <QueenVee> congrats, frogg
[11:05] <froggy> thank you very much
[11:05] <Inside-Revolution> Which country you live in America?
[11:05] <QueenVee> inside: most here are from america....
[11:05] <QueenVee> inside: America is a country
[11:05] <Sano> so many thoughts in my head and questions....that i couldnt realize them here...:)
[11:05] <Inside-Revolution> America is a continent
[11:05] <SteveH> logging off now for a while
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[11:05] <QueenVee> The United States = America
[11:05] <Inside-Revolution> United States of America is the name of a country I think
[11:05] <QueenVee> no, North America is a continent
[11:06] <Inside-Revolution> I see
[11:06] <QueenVee> America = United States
[11:06] <QueenVee> North America = Canada, the United States, and Mexico
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[11:06] <Inside-Revolution> yes I thought that about America
[11:07] <QueenVee> hello justfine9
[11:07] <justfine9> hello
[11:07] <QueenVee> WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 90 minutes. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion.
[11:07] <QueenVee> IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
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[11:07] <QueenVee> well
[11:08] <humvee> short span of attention i guess
[11:08] <Sano> QueenVee u so modest America=US :)))
[11:08] <Inside-Revolution> after the poleshift will be not dictatory by armys?
[11:08] <obany> Inside-Revolution: nah
[11:08] <Sano> Eurasia = Russian Impire
[11:08] <Inside-Revolution> what will the army ships do with soldiers?
[11:08] <Inside-Revolution> like whom attack Iraq
[11:09] <Sano> Iraq??? u troubles that???
[11:09] <Inside-Revolution> ?
[11:09] <obany> i don't think that they those in control with take care of their soldiers after the shift ...
[11:09] <obany> how can they
[11:09] <Inside-Revolution> maybe on the water they will have no problem
[11:10] <Inside-Revolution> and be healthy after the shitf
[11:10] <Sano> Inside-Revolution for what u need attack iraq after poleshift?? when will be destabilization with economy?
[11:10] <Inside-Revolution> I think before the shift
[11:10] <cmell> no they can't, they will be locked in time capsules ( just a little hope of mine )
[11:10] <Inside-Revolution> US want attack Iraq to help economy
[11:10] <Sano> when will be destabilization with economy
[11:11] <QueenVee> brb
[11:11] <Inside-Revolution> US has very big weapon industry
[11:11] <obany> Inside-Revolution: for other purposes check zetatalk
[11:11] <Sano> Inside-Revolution in nowadays
[11:11] <Inside-Revolution> and wars are good business fro US
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[11:11] <obany> come on
[11:11] <Sano> but after poleshift...who cares???
[11:11] <obany> Sano: right ....
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[11:13] <Inside-Revolution> why was post to spring the core move?
[11:13] <Queen-away> hello BlazeNY
[11:13] <Inside-Revolution> instead of November
[11:13] <BlazeNY> Hello Queen and to all
[11:13] <Inside-Revolution> why was post to spring the core movie?
[11:13] <cmell> hi
[11:13] <Inside-Revolution> Hello
[11:13] <Queen-away> WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 90 minutes. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion.
[11:13] <Queen-away> IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
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[11:13] <Sano> Inside-Revolution u thinks that u police of world....but u r Hangster of the world....(iraq,ygoslavia,...)
[11:14] <BlazeNY> Do you know where I could find real live groups of people near my home in Albany NY to join?
[11:14] <Inside-Revolution> me?
[11:14] <Inside-Revolution> I live in Hungary
[11:14] <QueenVee> Blaze -- how long have you been aware of zetatalk and the poleshift?
[11:14] <BlazeNY> About a year now
[11:14] <Sano> Inside-Revolution ups...i thought that u from US :)
[11:15] <BlazeNY> I belong to Mufon....which is neither here nor there really
[11:15] <QueenVee> Blaze: are you aware of our website? we are in the process of putting together a NETWORK WITH OTHERS section that will help people in the same areas to connect to one another....
[11:15] <obany> Interresting BlazeNY that you belong to MUFON
[11:15] <Inside-Revolution> Sano=Health in esperanto language
[11:15] <Sano> Inside-Revolution neithertheless u from NATO...am i right?
[11:16] <QueenVee> Blaze: this is our website address: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com
[11:16] <Inside-Revolution> I am not in the Army
[11:16] <Sano> Inside-Revolution> Sano=Health - really????
[11:16] <Inside-Revolution> yes
[11:16] <BlazeNY> I've been seeing fire balls pass by my window.....thought I had an encounter...don't know what's what lately. Thanks for the link Queen
[11:16] <Sano> wow....sign :)
[11:16] <QueenVee> Blaze: if you want me to send you info on how to get involved in that project, just give me your email address on a private channel, which will be kept strictly confidential
[11:17] <BlazeNY> Will do Queen....how? Where?
[11:17] <QueenVee> inside: Sano=health in latin
[11:17] <Inside-Revolution> is the 4th density=Nirvana of Budha?
[11:17] <QueenVee> blaze: how to send your email privately?
[11:17] <Inside-Revolution> or 4th dimension?
[11:18] <Inside-Revolution> what is the different dimension and density?
[11:18] <QueenVee> inside: no
[11:18] <BlazeNY> Nevermind...found your email. Thanks!
[11:18] <obany> Inside-Revolution: living in light... even that has been anwered
[11:18] <QueenVee> inside: use the search engine on the zetatalk site -- reach the DENSITY section
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[11:18] <QueenVee> read the DENSITY SECTION
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[11:18] <QueenVee> hi edude
[11:18] <Inside-Revolution> I read but not clear
[11:19] <obany> http://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m01.htm
[11:19] <edude> hello qv
[11:19] <QueenVee> brb -- getting a coffee
[11:20] <BlazeNY> Where are you folks from in here? NY here.......
[11:21] <cmell> Denmark here ....
[11:21] <Inside-Revolution> Ny city?
[11:21] <BlazeNY> Denmark/ Is your government more open to things like this?
[11:21] <cmell> Not so far as I know
[11:22] <BlazeNY> I mean, do they discuss it more publicly?
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[11:22] <BlazeNY> Upstate NY
[11:22] <cmell> there have been no mention of anything
[11:22] <humvee> Kauai Hawaii
[11:22] <BlazeNY> Hawaii? I don't think I want to be there now.....no offense
[11:23] <BlazeNY> denmark, how do you get your info? Here? ZetaTalk?
[11:23] <humvee> astually a safe place up hill that is
[11:23] <cmell> yes, and internet in general
[11:23] <QueenVee> hello Warrior
[11:23] <BlazeNY> how high are your hills? I think our ants here make bigger ones....(smile)
[11:24] <cmell> will the highest is some 600 feet
[11:24] <cmell> so I have to relocate
[11:24] <BlazeNY> Well, i suppose thats sufficient.
[11:24] <cmell> no
[11:25] <humvee> tru tru
[11:25] <Sano_away> BlazeNY about awaken i must submit, that in our massmedia became more, MORE!!! talks about ufo's and aliens
[11:25] <BlazeNY> burrow underground. I want to do that, even if this doesn't happen this year, I think it's going to eventually
[11:26] <humvee> a few of r group is setting up mainland US
[11:26] <BlazeNY> I hope not California
[11:26] <humvee> MN
[11:26] <cmell> montana ?
[11:26] <BlazeNY> or Arizonia for that matter...although that's a beautiful state. Sano.....where are you from? I can't find your posting.....
[11:27] <humvee> Minnesota in the hills there
[11:27] <cmell> ah
[11:27] <BlazeNY> Ah Montana........good choice!
[11:27] <cmell> :)
[11:27] <Sano_away> BlazeNY from russia
[11:27] <humvee> 4 farming good?
[11:28] <BlazeNY> Russia? Who would've thought that we'd be chatting.....now is YOUR govenment open to this concept Sano?
[11:29] <cmell> some of them are, there a huge underground complexes in the urals
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[11:29] <Inside-Revolution> Did Zetas speak about the dimension of Nirvana yet?
[11:29] <Inside-Revolution> or about the Heawon which Jesus said?
[11:29] <QueenVee> Blaze: they are not openly discussing it with their people, but they are as aware as the US govt is -- according to ZT
[11:29] <Sano> BlazeNY yes and no....i think :)
[11:30] <cmell> http://www.zetatalk.com/myths/m01.htm
[11:30] <Sano> cmell underground complex??? what u mean???
[11:30] <cmell> like mount weather in the US
[11:30] <Sano> im living easter from urals mount
[11:31] <QueenVee> inside: i will not be accepting questions pertaining to religious ideas and concepts -- just those related to preparation for the poleshift and aftertime, or compelling in some other way....
[11:31] <QueenVee> Sano: i will get you a link about that, hold on
[11:31] <groomee> QV, I kept getting kicked offline, did you recieve my question?
[11:32] <QueenVee> Sano: from our website: Is the Russian Power Elite Preparing for a Natural Catastrophe? http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=34
[11:32] <Inside-Revolution> I look notsing more about Nirvana
[11:32] <QueenVee> Groomee: no, i didn't. give it to me again.
[11:32] <Inside-Revolution> only few words
[11:32] <Inside-Revolution> but nothing concrete
[11:32] <Inside-Revolution> how to go there
[11:32] <Inside-Revolution> Budha, Krishna, Jesus gave us the instructions
[11:33] <Inside-Revolution> Zetas can go to Nirvana?
[11:33] <QueenVee> inside: this is a chatroom for discussion about preparation, not about religious idea -- if you can't stay on topic, i will have to devoice you, oka?
[11:33] <groomee> I would like to know what will happen to the gravitational field when the earths rotation slows/stops
[11:33] <BlazeNY> Has Planet X definately been pinned pointed? Please do not link me to a site, your answers are more appreciated.
[11:34] <cmell> nothing
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[11:34] <QueenVee> groomee: that has been addressed, hold on i'll get you a link
[11:34] <groomee> thankyou
[11:35] <QueenVee> here's one: http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s127.htm
[11:37] <QueenVee> obany: ARE YOU THERE?
[11:37] <Dr> Hi QV
[11:37] <Inside-Revolution> sorry
[11:37] <Inside-Revolution> which rom can I ask these questions?
[11:37] <Sano> QueenVee Yamantau Mountain - where is it located???
[11:38] <QueenVee> inside: try #earthchanges, #troubled_times, #zetatalk
[11:39] <cmell> somewhere in the urals sano
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[11:39] <BlazeNY> Queen, may I ask you why are you so involved in all this? Not that that's not a good thing, but are you associated with ZetaTalk?
[11:39] <QueenVee> no, not associated; just personal interest and sense of duty
[11:40] <BlazeNY> That's great
[11:40] <BlazeNY> I wish there was more I can do
[11:41] <QueenVee> ATTENTION:  We curently have only one question on today's agenda, so....
[11:41] <BlazeNY> I feel if I try to enlighten my neighbors, they'll lock me up. I am very sensative to all this, but I feel very alone in my plight and feelings
[11:42] <QueenVee> Blaze: don't be so melodramatic -- the very worst that can happen to you is that people will think you're crazy, nobody has the power to lock you up
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[11:42] <BlazeNY> i meant that jokingly Queen
[11:42] <QueenVee> the best way to be of help is to thoroughly read zetatalk, learn everything there is to learn, so that you can pass it on to others when the time comes...
[11:43] <QueenVee> blaze: sorry
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[11:43] <humvee> Blaze - a good topic 4 off hours when room not so busy re: how to tell others etc
[11:44] <QueenVee> hello gus
[11:45] <QueenVee> WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately one hour. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion.
[11:45] <QueenVee> IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[11:45] <gus12340> Hello to you too
[11:45] <froggy> hi Monk
[11:45] <Mulder> Proposed Question: We know from Zetatalk that the Zeta's we talk to are STO. But are all ZT's STO? If there are STS Zeta's how do we know the difference in the aftertime and we are vulnerable? I mean how to recognize a friend or an enemy?
[11:46] <cmell> hi monk
[11:46] <QueenVee> Mulder: no, not all zetas are STO, there is a mix, just as there are with humans....
[11:46] <Monk> hi
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[11:48] <QueenVee> Mulder: there's a section in ZT called ORIENTATION TEST, i'm looking for it....
[11:48] <gus12340> QV Ilike to know how will effect the shiftt an Island in greece named Crete.
[11:49] <QueenVee> Mulder: here you go: http://www.zetatalk.com/xtime/x17.htm
[11:49] <QueenVee> gus: hold on
[11:49] <Mulder> Queen: I know what you're talking about. I have not only read Zetatalk, I have studied it.
[11:49] <gus12340> Ok
[11:51] <QueenVee> Gus: here's what ZT says about Greece and the Greek islands. can you please read it and tell me very specifically what you want to know that ZT has not already said? http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx018.htm
[11:51] <gus12340> QV:
[11:52] <QueenVee> Mulder: you asked how to recognize a friend of enemy. the section called ORIENTATION TEST answers that.
[11:52] <gus12340> Idid already I lookingfor more details if is posoble?
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[11:52] <Mulder> Proposed Question2: The hybrids are in many aspects similar to single parent children. I wonder if there is any thing a human can do to make them more comfortable with the human aspect of their new being? Such as handling emotions etc.?
[11:53] <Mulder> Queen: Thanks I will look at it again
[11:53] <QueenVee> Gus: i repeat:  tell me very specifically what you want to know that ZT has not already said
[11:53] <Sano> QueenVee /xtime/x17.htm- what is it a section? where i can find it in russian?
[11:53] <gus12340> About the spesificy Island Crete iif is posible
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[11:54] <QueenVee> Gus: what would you specifically like to know about the Island of Crete?
[11:54] <gus12340> Yes please
[11:54] <cmell> :)
[11:55] <QueenVee> Those who have just entered the room: WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 45 minutes I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion. (we currently have a shortage of questions, so ask away)
[11:55] <gus12340> Is will survive the shift
[11:55] <QueenVee> gus: you mean will it sink?
[11:55] <QueenVee> what do you mean by survive?
[11:55] <QueenVee> or will the people survive?
[11:55] <gus12340> The Island if goes under Water
[11:56] <gus12340> And the pl
[11:56] <gus12340> If is a safe place for my family?
[11:56] <Sano> gus12340 mifrate in our altai mountains here more safer :)
[11:56] <QueenVee> Gus: this seems pretty clear to me: "volcanoes... and the sloshing of the water, which will wash over small islands and any land protruding into the seas, makes survival of the shift itself in Greece seems tenuous."
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[11:57] <gus12340> Thank You all
[11:57] <QueenVee> We would advise those who want certainty of survival to move inland into the Alps, returning to their homelands only days after the shift.
[11:57] <gus12340> Ok
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[11:58] <QueenVee> TO THE ROOM: I would like to ask a question about the discovery mentioned in this article, what do you think: http://shift2003.kgmweb.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=53
[11:58] <QueenVee> hello Neil
[11:58] <froggy> is Baltimore Md. going to be under water?
[11:59] <butch> it's coastal froggy...so i think it's likely...
[11:59] <NeilAway> hi, QueenVee
[11:59] <QueenVee> froggy: what does ZT already say about Maryland?
[11:59] <QueenVee> IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[11:59] <froggy> will a rubber raft work?
[11:59] <QueenVee> work to do what?
[11:59] <butch> wouldn't trust it...
[12:00] <butch> a solid boat would be better, methinks...
[12:00] <Sano> im madden that esteblishment use common ppl as resourse....like robots...
[12:00] <QueenVee> froggy: ZT says only in those places where water will slowly rise (i.e. NOT coastal areas) are boats an option
[12:00] <QueenVee> TIDAL WAVES
[12:01] <Sano> lets made riot and revolution !! :)
[12:01] <humvee> washer out 2 sea sucked into a woral pool & dashed
[12:01] <froggy> QueenVee: will Baltimore Md had a Tidal Wave?
[12:01] <QueenVee> froggy: yes
[12:02] <froggy> yikes
[12:02] <Mulder> Queen: Thanks for your help pointing to orientation test, but unfortunately your're missing my point.
[12:02] <Sano> i wonder....if zetas will use us so ?
[12:02] <QueenVee> Mulder: well, try again
[12:02] <cmell> only if they are sts Sano
[12:03] <froggy> Will Hanover Pa. have a Tidal Wave?
[12:03] <Sano> Mulder where i can tested??
[12:03] <Sano> cmell in that case i could say....that all esteblishment-STS !!!
[12:03] <QueenVee> froggy: i'm not going to answer anymore of your region questions until you following the procedure i have given:  IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[12:04] <cmell> yes Sano , sorry :(
[12:04] <Mulder> Sano: Not tested, but recognize the difference between real STO and STS humans
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[12:04] <Sano> Mulder and how i can recognize?
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[12:05] <obany> any questions .... that can be adressed?
[12:05] <cmell> Sano look here : http://www.zetatalk.com/xtime/x17.htm
[12:05] <QueenVee> Mulder, please give Sano the link i gave you
[12:05] <Sano> cmell x17.htm is in english.....i prefer russian symbols :)
[12:05] <Inside-Revolution> Queen, How can Hungary prepare fro accepting lot of inmigrated people from other countries after the shift?
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[12:05] <QueenVee> obany: Mulder wants to ask the zetas how to recognize friend from foe -- so i gave him the link to ORIENTATION TEST. but he says i am missing the point. Do you understand?
[12:06] <obany> let me see
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[12:06] <Sano> Inside-Revolution u lucky Hungrians....u havent so neighbours like China :)))
[12:06] <QueenVee> inside: there is already a lot of general material on ZT about that
[12:06] <QueenVee>     HELLO NANCY     
[12:06] <Monk> Hi Nancy
[12:06] <obany> NancyL : are you the real Nancy Lieder?
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[12:06] <NancyL> ya
[12:06] <cmell> hi NancyL
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[12:07] <groomee> Hi Nancy
[12:07] <QueenVee> false alarm, folks
[12:07] <obany> QueenVee: look at the host first
[12:07] <QueenVee> that was not nancy
[12:07] <Sano> hi
[12:07] <Monk> you dont have ip address?
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[12:07] <froggy> Hi Nancy :)\
[12:07] <QueenVee> obany: i can only do so many things at a time
[12:07] <Mulder> Queen: It is not about recognizing Human STO or STS. It is about recognizing Alien (ZT) STS or STO
[12:07] <Red> hehe    hi all
[12:07] <cmell> Sano it's not translated into russian
[12:07] <butch> hiya Red
[12:07] <Red> HBO  Hi !
[12:07] <QueenVee> Mulder: what would be the difference? are you expecting them to be wearing a badge?
[12:07] <Sano> cmell ok ill read in english :)
[12:07] <Red> hey butch
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[12:08] <Monk> Mulder: maybe you should train on seeing auras
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[12:08] <Sano> QueenVee> who that was?
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[12:08] <humvee> QV: seemingly sts scorces on web use many mind games etc so u have 2 look & learn is what i think he is getting at - maybe not an easy answer look at accuracy to tell
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[12:09] <Kai> hmm
[12:09] <QueenVee> hello Kai
[12:09] <Elisa> ìäÿ
[12:09] <Kai> hello
[12:09] <QueenVee> hello Elisa
[12:10] <QueenVee> Those who have just entered the room: WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 45 minutes I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion. (we currently have a shortage of questions, so ask away)
[12:10] <Sano> Elisa íå ãîâîðè ïî ðóññêè, îíè ýòî íå ëþáÿò :)))
[12:10] <Elisa> :)
[12:10] <QueenVee> IF YOU HAVE A REGIONAL QUESTION: Please find and present the link to what ZT already says about that region (or closest region), then ask a very specific question that the section has not addressed. The "Safe Locations" document can be found here: http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo242.htm
[12:10] <Elisa> à íìå íàñðàòü:)
[12:10] <Elisa> QueenVee: hi
[12:10] <Sano> Elisa say in english i saud !!! :)))
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[12:10] <QueenVee> well, we only have two questions for the agenda thus far....
[12:11] <Monk> yes english only please
[12:11] <Elisa> i'l try
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[12:11] <QueenVee> hey cap
[12:11] <Captain_nibiru> hi!!
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[12:11] <cmell> hi
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[12:11] <PlanX> I have a question.  The Zetans have said that meteorites would strike the earth at a low trajectory.  Can they tell us what direction they will be coming from?
[12:11] <Captain_nibiru> had to reboot, couldnt get in here!!
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[12:12] <johnny> hello
[12:12] <Sano> QueenVee can u post here those 2 questions ?
[12:12] <obany> QueenVee: tied banned a aol adress, that's why he couldn't join in ... that's why i removed the aol ban at first
[12:12] <QueenVee> WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 45 minutes I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion. (we currently have a shortage of questions, so ask away)
[12:12] <Sano> PlanX from everywhere i think :)
[12:12] <QueenVee> sorry, that is not correct: nancy's session will begin in approximatley 1/2 hr....
[12:13] <Captain_nibiru> ohh, isee , obany, yes, i have aol!!
[12:13] <obany> QueenVee: 17 minuts :)
[12:13] <Captain_nibiru> 1/2 hour, great , thanks!!
[12:13] <QueenVee> PlanX: same direction as PX, yes?
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[12:13] <inkpen> hello
[12:13] <cmell> hi
[12:14] <inkpen> need coffee
[12:14] <Monk> queenvee: any questions about this new clone they are talking about ?
[12:14] <QueenVee> what would you like to know, monk
[12:14] <Kai> new clone?
[12:14] <QueenVee> alleged clone
[12:14] <Sano> öùå òóö ñäùòó,
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[12:14] <obany> Kai: Raelian cult
[12:14] <Sano> sorry
[12:14] <Kai> oh right
[12:14] <PlanX> Yes, I guess from same direction as PX makes sense ... So when we see the red cross in the sky ... watch out!
[12:14] <Sano> wot new clone?
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[12:14] <Monk> Just something to ask maybe if your low on questions
[12:14] <humvee> a fair question on incomming direction from east at first then south (new East) I don't know but could be clairified if re written as a question
[12:15] <QueenVee> monk: i'm sure she already has something prepared on it....
[12:15] <Monk> yea maybe
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[12:15] <obany> i am sure that Queen has enough questions to adress
[12:15] <Kai> so when excacty is nibiru ment to get here?
[12:15] <inkpen> *sigh
[12:15] <obany> Kai: may 2003, it's al on www.zetatalk.com
[12:15] <QueenVee> Kai: poleshift will happen May 15, 2003
[12:16] <Monk> poleshift will happen around may 15
[12:16] <QueenVee> Mulder: i'd like to approach your question from another direction....
[12:16] <Kai> okay, gives me pently of time then
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[12:16] <groomee> Am i considered STS if i am only worried about getting myself and small family thru the shift
[12:16] <johnny> Queenvee, question for the zetas: Starting December 18th, NASA launched ICESAT a laser equiped satelite designed to keep the planets largest ice sheets under twenty- four hour survellance. What is the significance of this, if any.
[12:16] <QueenVee> Mulder: why don't we start by asking if there will be STS aliens roaming about the earth in the aftertime, whether we need to be wary of them, and how to recognize them?
[12:17] <QueenVee> johnny: that seems pretty obvious -- to kep the ice sheets under surveillance, because they know they're melting....
[12:17] <Mulder> Queen: Thank you, sound like a good plan to me
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[12:18] <cmell> wasen't sts aliens supposed to be banned from earth after the shift ?
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[12:18] <obany> cmell: not exactly ....
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[12:18] <cmell> oh I thought so :(
[12:19] <inkpen> after the transformation
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[12:19] <QueenVee> Those who have just entered the room: WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 20 minutes. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion. (we currently have a shortage of questions, so ask away)
[12:19] <obany> cmell: STS humans yes, etc ... but after the shift to 4th density no more
[12:19] <Kai> sts alien?
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[12:19] <Michaellss> did you get time to check that website out to see if nancy could ask zetas to comment?
[12:19] <obany> sts=Service to Self
[12:19] <Sano> obany but who stronger STO or STS?
[12:19] <Kai> ah
[12:19] <ZooSpecimen> woohoo
[12:19] <phoenix> QV: Also, might there be STS hybrids to be dealth with in aftertime?
[12:19] <obany> Sano: what do you think sano ?
[12:19] <obany> no STS Hybrids
[12:20] <Kai> Forward
[12:20] <Monk> any soul going into a hybrid will be sto
[12:20] <Kai> odd
[12:20] <Kai> i didnt even type that sigh sorry
[12:20] <QueenVee> Michaells: what website?
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[12:20] <Sano> obany i think that at humans - stronger STS, aliens - STO
[12:21] <Michaellss> http://www.ou-research.com/ewpatents/nsaPR.html
[12:21] <humvee> Question: considering the loss of gps volcanic gloom and magnetic wandering what method could be used & how would one be best able to navigate on water / land after thecomming  pole shift?
[12:21] <Michaellss> altering brain waves of ppl
[12:21] <QueenVee> Michael: that question is not relevant to preparation for the poleshift and aftertime
[12:21] <Michaellss> and monitoring
[12:21] <QueenVee> Zoo: please post your question in the main room
[12:21] <Michaellss> k
[12:21] <Michaellss> :)
[12:21] <Mulder> humvee: I second that question
[12:22] <QueenVee> humvee: that veers into the zetas giving technological advice, which they will not
[12:22] <johnny> Queenvee- Question - The zetas say the war with iraq is about the oil, if so what the point if the bush administration knows about the shift. All the oil will burn so whats the point.
[12:22] <cmell> I tried that q once, and the answer was by other means
[12:23] <QueenVee> johnny: that has been extensively addressed in ZT -- read under "What's New" section, or do search under keyword IRAQ
[12:23] <johnny> thanks
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[12:25] <QueenVee> Those who have just entered the room: WELCOME. Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin in approximately 20 minutes. I’m currently considering questions for the agenda. Please post your question in the room (not privately) for discussion. (we currently have a shortage of questions, so ask away)
[12:25] <obany> QueenVee: 5 ... and Nancy ain't here yet :/
[12:25] <Red> Hey Steve   how goes it?
[12:25] <QueenVee> obany: don't sweat it
[12:25] <SteveH> good, how are you?
[12:25] <Warrior2021> US administration using war to get people atention  from the PS@
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[12:26] <obany> hi SteveH wb
[12:26] <SteveH> hi obany
[12:26] <Red> great thanks... just about headed to your fair city    tell me the weather is good ;)
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[12:26] <cmell> hi ZP
[12:26] <QueenVee> I APOLOGIZE FOR POSTING THE WRONG TIME AGAIN. NANCY'S SESSION SHOULD START IN ABOUT 10 MINUTES, NOT 20
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[12:26] <cmell> hi
[12:26] <Sano> ðø
[12:26] <Sano> hi
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[12:26] <QueenVee>     HELLO NANCY     
[12:26] <Domicile> hi
[12:27] <humvee> Steve how short an exposure will still show px image at present
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[12:27] <NancyL> ANNOUNCEMENT: Steve Havas took another set of images last evening, thanks to $$ from Naji, and JWilliam has already identified the White and Red Personas.
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[12:28] <NancyL> Again: moved, brighter, larger, moons more visible, where expected, tracking as expected, MISSING from where they were on Dec 13-14th, etc.
[12:28] <NancyL> Looks like we're going to have a pole shift.
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[12:28] <obany> Yes NancyL
[12:28] <Monk> Is the pictures uploaded to a server ?
[12:28] <NancyL> A report from someone re the movie Core:
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[12:28] <phoenix> Q: Are the "webs" falling over areas of SW USA an increase in natural phenomena, expected to increase after PS?
[12:29] <obany> more and more signs that there indeed will be a poleshift
[12:29] <NancyL> They said “I went and saw Star Trek 'Nemesis' the other night, well the name Nemesis and the plot to destroy the Earth tells something....but....the last trailer (preview) to show before the start of the main feature, Nemesis, was the trailer for the movie THE CORE. That trailer had an interesting ending, the screen goes black and states in white print 'THE PLANET EARTH HAS A DEADLINE OF SPRING 2003' “
[12:29] <SteveH> humvee, I used 20min exposures for these images but PX has also shown up on 2min exposures
[12:29] <QueenVee>  Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session will begin shortly. Moderation mode will be on while she is doing ZetaTalk, during which no one else can post. However, there will be time for follow-up comments and questions afterwards.
[12:29] <SteveH> the longer exposures give much better results, stronger signal than the shorter exposures
[12:29] <QueenVee> NancyL: HOW BIZARRE!
[12:30] <butch> i saw that...kinda creepy..
[12:30] <obany> Indeed, indeed ...
[12:30] <inkpen> heh
[12:30] <humvee> thanks
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[12:30] <SteveH> I just saw that trailer yesterday, watching the new LOTR
[12:30] <Zetapal> .   ~~*     .o   O
[12:30] <NancyL> phoenix, webs is related to the recent 60 acreas of spider webs in western Canada.  These are spider web blown UP, recent hatchlings per a biologist report I read, and related to insects et al going nuts over weird signals from the Earth core, etc.
[12:31] <ZooSpecimen> well done Zetapal!
[12:31] <phoenix> Thanks, Nancy ;)
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[12:31] <NancyL> I have one accepted Q for the #zetatalk channel, but Queen supplies the Q for this session.
[12:32] <QueenVee> NANCY: let me know when you want to begin
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[12:32] <NancyL> Ready, Queen :-)
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[12:32] <obany> as there is a difference between the session on this and on the zetatalk channel, different type of questions .. but nevertheless let the session begin :)
[12:33] <QueenVee> ARE YOU READY NANCY??
[12:33] <ZooSpecimen> southern ontario will move further north, but the climate will be warmer after the PS?
[12:33] <NancyL> YES! Ready!!
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[12:33] <QueenVee>  FIRST QUESTION
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[12:33] <QueenVee>  Will there be aliens other than Zetas visitng the earth in the aftertime that may offer help to humans? If so, will any of them be STS? And if so, how can we recognize and be wary of such STS aliens?
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[12:35] <NancyL> ZT: The 100 years after the pole shift are a time of transition for planet Earth, in that it is not wholely divided into STO or STS groups separated by the rules that govern 4th Density spiritual groups.
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[12:36] <NancyL> ZT: Yet there will be pockets, whole countries or continents even, which are operating in this spiritual orientation, and quarantined from interaction with others in 4th Density of the other orientation.
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[12:37] <NancyL> ZT: As we have stated in the Rules section of Zetatalk, visitors to Earth operating in the STO orientation, or the STS orientation, are required to enter into an Engagement in order to interact with each other.
[12:37] <NancyL> ZT: These Engagements are overseen by the Council of Worlds, and proceed within rules such that chaos does not reign.
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[12:38] <NancyL> ZT: Unless an Engagement exists, the orientations do NOT interact.
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[12:38] <NancyL> ZT: However, in 3rd Density, in the main composed of undecided entities not fully leaning toward either orientation, all interact without Engagements.
[12:39] <NancyL> ZT: The Call, which is a type of Engagement between an undecided entity in 3rd Density and a visitor, is also controlled by rules, such that the visitor cannot simply have their way with the immature entity.
[12:40] <NancyL> ZT: STS visitors are thus not allowed to invade, occupy, eat, or otherwise have their way with humans who give the Call to them.
[12:40] <NancyL> ZT: The Call is a conference, solely.
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[12:41] <NancyL> ZT: In the situation we have described, where STO communities of humans form after the shift, and are joined by Hybrids or visitors from many worlds, what rules will apply?
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[12:41] <NancyL> ZT: This is in fact no more complicated than situations on Earth today, where many Star Children are incarnated with developed spirits form 4th Density or higher, yet are living among humans in human society.
[12:42] <NancyL> ZT: If a Star Child gives the Call, which happens even in higher densities, this is covered by the Rules of Engagement among visitors, as a visitor is what they ARE.
[12:44] <NancyL> ZT: If a human in a group gives the Call to STS visitors, yet others in the group are giving the Call simultaneously to visitores in the STO, then great care is taken to ensure that the STS and STO visitors responding to the Call of these individual human are not using the humans for a type of Engagement between themselves.
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[12:44] <NancyL> ZT: Suffice to say that if visitors are NOT careful about these matters, they are promptly removed from the vicinity, expelled, so care IS taken and humans are NOT used as a type of hand-length Engagement.
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[12:45] <NancyL> ZT: In the STO communities of the future, after the shift, where Hybrids and visitors from other worlds and huamns of good heart are all living together, in the main this will be uncomplicated.
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[12:45] <NancyL> ZT: A human in this setting gives the Call to the STO, and a neighbor steps up for a chat!
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[12:46] <NancyL> ZT: If an immature entity is among them, perhaps a child depending upon parents, and gives the Call to the STS, then this situation would be treated as mentioned above, with care not to cross boundaries.
[12:46] <NancyL> ZT: The child would be taken outside of the community, in some manner, for the conference.
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[12:47] <NancyL> ZT: If this child persisted in his STS leanings, he would be encouraged to leave the community when adulthood was approaching.
[12:47] <NancyL> ZT: Such situations are NOT expected to arise, due to the polarization ongoing today.
[12:48] <NancyL> ZT: It is likewise possible for an STO human to find themselves in mixed company after the shift.
[12:48] <NancyL> ZT: This is certainly no different than the daily grind of STO individuals today, in mixed society.
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[12:49] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, increasingly, this sorts out so that human survivors are talking to their NEIGHBORS, not visitors, which is the rule in 4th Density spiritual societies.
[12:49] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter followup?
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[12:49] <Mike-O> What is the nature of an 'engagement' between an STS and STO entity in 4th density or higher? Is it basically one entity trying to win the other over to its side?
[12:49] <froggy> Where will the pockets, countries and continents be that are oprerating in sto manner?
[12:49] <Gyflex> will these sts aliens continue to actively recruit for the sts camp after the shift?
[12:49] <West_coast> what role will religion play in the aftertime
[12:50] <Zetapal> wow - love it
[12:50] <Warrior2021> Hi Nancy       there something wrong with that 100 years , some groups will go sn to 4th density right after the PS  as our solar sistem flying in to higher energy level @           
[12:50] <obany> Mike-O: has been explained already
[12:50] <obany> Mike-O: rules section of zetatalk
[12:50] <NancyL> MikeO, the Engagements are very thoroughly described in the Rules section.
[12:50] <Domicile> Will conferences brought on by The Call move towards being more conscious, as opposed to subconscious sessions as we become more aware of ET's?
[12:50] <Mulder> NancyL / Queen: Thank you both, a great answer
[12:50] <QueenVee> :-)
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[12:50] <NancyL> Froggy, yes, this is the direction that will occur after the shift, but I think die-off must occur first, and some migrations.
[12:50] <inkpen> good question too
[12:51] <Zetapal> good question Domicile
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[12:51] <NancyL> WestCoast, religion plays no role except as humans cling to it.
[12:51] <cmell> yes domicile good q
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[12:52] <NancyL> Warrior, you are quoting some garbage, not ZetaTalk.  Does this garbage quoted have an accuracy track record, like ZetaTalk?
[12:52] <NancyL> Domicile, like a chat with a neighbor, yes, conscious then.
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[12:52] <NancyL> If you are living in an STO group, with Hybrids and Zetas, for instance, they come over for a chat.
[12:53] <QueenVee>  NEXT QUESTION
[12:53] <QueenVee>  Many who come to the SHIFT2003 Chat Room are noting a dramatic increase in the polarization of orientations recently. Can the Zetas comment on this and indicate in what ways this may increasingly manifest itself in the days leading up to the poleshift?
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[12:54] <NancyL> ZT: Polarization in the main goes on undetected, with humans migrating to areas they sense will be more compatible with their thinking.
[12:54] <NancyL> ZT: Humans join groups, decide what shops to shop in, take walks in this or that park, all based on orientation, increasingly.
[12:55] <NancyL> ZT: If a group plays ball, hard, with ridicule of those losing, and another plays ball for exercise, and ensures that all attending get a fair physical workout, these are attended by humans with different leanings.
[12:55] <NancyL> ZT: Political groups, religious affiliations, all are affected by orientation leanings.
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[12:56] <NancyL> ZT: If a political party is elitist, cruel to those in need and giving increasing power to the strong and ruthless, this is NOT an STO oriented group.
[12:57] <NancyL> ZT: If a church is so rule oriented that the elders cannot be challenged even when they rape children, and refuse to be called to account, this is NOT an STO oriented leadership.
[12:57] <NancyL> ZT: Decisions as to what groups to belong to, what locales to live in, what employer to work for, are made daily based on the sense the human has that their chosen orientation fits in.
[12:58] <NancyL> ZT: At a certain point, during a polarization period, these trends are NOTICED, as they become extreme.
[12:59] <NancyL> ZT: This is the point reached today, thus noticed.  In the past, where the vast majority were undecided, only the occasional fully developed STS or STO would be about to influence matters.
[12:59] <NancyL> ZT: Jesus, or Genghis Khan, so their influence was obvious.
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[13:00] <NancyL> ZT: During the Tranformation, where an influx of STO Star Children, including Walk-ins that increase their numbers dramatically without the birth or maturation of children being required for influence, those in the STS are threatened.
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[13:01] <NancyL> ZT: The PERCENTAGE of STO on the Earth is tipping, and the STS among humans feel uncomfortable.
[13:01] <NancyL> ZT: They group more tightly, to be with their like kind.
[13:02] <NancyL> ZT: They seek more control, get more shrill, dictate more rules, and restrict access to themselves.
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[13:02] <NancyL> ZT: This is all to increase their comfort level, to return to the comfort level they remember in prior times.
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[13:02] <NancyL> ZT: This desire for control, to return to the good-ol-days, is what in fact DRIVES the polarization, as the STS WILLINGLY separate!
[13:03] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter, followup?
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[13:03] <froggy> i feel great about that answer, because everybody at my work and the clients are nice
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[13:03] <West_coast> Are all STS aliens following the RULES? (non-interference)
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[13:04] <NancyL> WestCoast, they MUST follow the rules or be removed, instantly.  There is no fooling the Council of Worlds, which knows all, apparently.
[13:04] <ZooSpecimen> ... and these decisions are 100% unconcious?
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[13:05] <QueenVee>  NEXT QUESTION
[13:05] <NancyL> Zoo, your subconscious knows what you're up to, your conscious picks and choses, apparently.
[13:05] <QueenVee>  PREAMBLE: ZT has previously said that underground shelters will likely collapse during the poleshift, including those built by the government. Yet many coming to the SHIFT2003 Chat Room continue to doubt that advice and make plans for underground shelters.
[13:05] <QueenVee>  QUESTION: Though the subject of underground shelters has been addressed previously, can it be addressed again more specifically, since the message is not getting through?
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[13:06] <NancyL> ZT: Mankind visits caves, which show their age in the slow accumulation of drip-fed rock, and think underground caverns safe.
[13:06] <NancyL> ZT: At the same time, man-made mines collapse or fill with water, with horror stories of miners burried alive.
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[13:07] <NancyL> ZT: There are caves in rock that last eons, and mines that man mades that likewise hold up, but compared to the risks of aboveground shelters during the shift, they are HIGH RISK.
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[13:08] <NancyL> ZT: Mankind has little experience with Richter 9 force quakes, with only projection on what the Richter on famous quakes such as the 1906 San Francisco quake were.
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[13:08] <NancyL> ZT: Dramatic rock shattering, such as was required to drive raw rock at a slant, skyward, during prior shifts, is NOT in the memory of man.
[13:09] <NancyL> ZT: Caverns available THEN, for man to crawl into, which closed and trapped whatever crawled there, are LOST to man.
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[13:09] <NancyL> ZT: On occasion, he digs bones frozen in what was formerly mud, a volcanic flow or river bed.
[13:10] <NancyL> ZT: How the animals died is conjecture.
[13:10] <NancyL> ZT: If human bones are found in caverns, it is assumed they died of disease, not entrapment.
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[13:12] <NancyL> ZT: If the force of a shift, in the recent past, has driven mountains over the plains in the US West, rumpled the foothills of the Sierras, heaved the Himalyas higher, and melted rock with subduction, then why line of thinking allows this rock to remain FIRM and UNDISTURBED just because it is the wall of a cavern?
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[13:12] <NancyL> ZT: It is not immune from what is happening during mountain building, during the shift: shattering rock, rapid sideways motions, flaking and separating, and snapping.
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[13:13] <NancyL> ZT: In heartlands, where mountain building may not be occurring, there are rocks and caves which are assumed not to be affected.
[13:13] <NancyL> ZT: But stretching, growing rifts, can likewise create collapse.
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[13:14] <NancyL> ZT: Thus, to AVOID being burried alive, crushed, do NOT be underground during the shift.
[13:14] <NancyL> ZT: Allow yourself access to the open air.
[13:14] <NancyL> End ZT on this matter, followup?>
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[13:14] <cmell> is Yosemite National park in California an example of dramatic rock shattering, and skyward lift ? (thinking of the dome)
[13:14] <phoenix> Q: Would trenches dug into firm hillsides be squeezed during earthquakes?
[13:14] <West_coast> Is the red dust toxic?
[13:14] <slycli> Then the best solution is?
[13:15] <NancyL> Phoenix, if the hillside was not going to be flooded, so that mudslides ensured, probably not.
[13:15] <Gyflex> will theRussians take note and abandon their current bunker plans?
[13:15] <NancyL> YOU must think about this!  Landslides, mudslides, holding soil back with roots of trees, etc. is a KNOWN human science!  KNOWN facts!
[13:15] <phoenix> Thanks
[13:15] <NancyL> Do a bit of research on your own, use your own head!
[13:16] <froggy> how did the pyramids survive from last shift?
[13:16] <NancyL> If you dig a trench now, along a hill, and the spring rains come, won't it get muddy, and the bottom wall start to slide?
[13:16] <obany> froggy: keep in mind that not every pole shift is a severe one.... read zetatalk, choose science, wandering poles
[13:16] <NancyL> Research what California deals with in mud slides.  Its all in the books!  LIbrary, etc.
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[13:17] <QueenVee>  NEXT QUESTION
[13:17] <QueenVee>  Some who visit the SHIFT2003 Chat Room accept that the poleshift will occur, but are reluctant to accept that it will be as destructive as it will be, and therefore question whether ZT advice re prepration is accurate. Can the Zetas briefly describe how they know so specifically the extent of destruction of the poleshift and conditions of the aftertime? Is it purely via scientific method, or also through an ability to see into the
[13:17] <NancyL> Slycli, a trench in a flat place, NOT all that wide, NOT about to be flooded either, and covered with a roof of sod covered board, or tin.
[13:18] <NancyL> This has been addressed in ZT already, but they will repeat themselves.  I think it is 2003 in the Pole Shift section.
[13:18] <Zetapal> Queen end got cut off - "ability to see into the...."
[13:18] <QueenVee> just a sec
[13:18] <QueenVee>  Some who visit the SHIFT2003 Chat Room accept that the poleshift will occur, but are reluctant to accept that it will be as destructive as it will be, and therefore question whether ZT advice re prepration is accurate.
[13:18] <QueenVee> Can the Zetas briefly describe how they know so specifically the extent of destruction of the poleshift and conditions of the aftertime? Is it purely via scientific method, or also through an ability to see into the future?
[13:19] <NancyL> Yes, P108, 2003 in the Pole Shift section, here quoted "How do you know that the sun is going to rise at approximately 6:37 AM on a given morning? You know this because you take observations, and you take
[13:19] <NancyL> measures. How do you know how many miles you must walk on a familiar trip? You can count the steps, or measure the distance, and you can verify this against
[13:19] <NancyL> maps drawn by other. You observe, and take measures. We know that the 12th Planet will make its passage in late spring or early summer of the year 2
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[13:19] <NancyL> We know that the 12th Planet will make its passage in late spring or early summer of the year 2003
[13:19] <NancyL> because we are observing the planet approaching your solar system. We were present when it came through last. This is as known to us as the setting of the sun and
[13:19] <NancyL> the rising of the sun is to you.
[13:19] <NancyL> We see this, laid out before us, and we watch each day as the comet approaches and calculate any variance from our last plot.
[13:19] <NancyL> Therefore this is not something uncertain that we have to morph up out of calculations and call “the best estimate” or “our speculation.” This is not speculation, this is
[13:19] <NancyL> observation, and we are telling you what we are observing.
[13:19] <NancyL> End QUOTE of ZT
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[13:20] <QueenVee> But, nancy; is there any kind of precognition involved at all?>
[13:20] <NancyL> In the same manner that YOU know the Sun will rise, or can predict the effect of a hurricane heading inland, etc.
[13:20] <phoenix> Doesn't the element of chance always exist?
[13:21] <NancyL> Re Precognition:
[13:21] <NancyL> ZT: No
[13:21] <NancyL> End ZT on that matter :-)
[13:21] <QueenVee> well, that's clear
[13:21] <AlphaCentauri> lol
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[13:21] <obany> Very clear
[13:21] <QueenVee>  LAST QUESTION
[13:21] <QueenVee>  As it approaches, will Planet X have EMP (electro-magnetic pulse) effect on earth's electronics, similar to those effects associated with a nuclear blast or a CME (coronal mass ejection) from the sun aimed at earth? Or is it at least likely that Planet X might stimulate such CMEs from the sun during its passage?
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[13:22] <NancyL> Phoenix, if they were to describe the EXACT longitude or lattitude of a spot on earth, maybe they would wiggle, but to say it will be stretched out along the new Equator, they are not speculating, they care calculating.
[13:22] <NancyL> Good Q ...
[13:23] <QueenVee> FOLLOWUP QUESTION, NANCY
[13:23] <QueenVee> what about when the zetas are commenting on political situations on earth?
[13:23] <NancyL> ZT: Mankind's electrical equipment is sensitive to surges, brown-outs, and the many magnets used in their technology are affected by strong pulse.
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[13:24] <NancyL> ZT: Will the pole shift, described as magnetic in nature, utterly destroy mankinds technology, carefully packed?
[13:25] <NancyL> ZT: What should be remembered is that the pole shift does NOT change the force of the field in the Earth, does NOT change whatsoever the Sun which is oblivious to the passage.
[13:26] <NancyL> ZT: Solar Flares are exagerated nowadays, as the Sun has been setup to be used as an EXCUSE for the effects the Earth is currently experiencing from the approach of Planet X.
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[13:27] <NancyL> ZT: We stated as early as 1995, when ZetaTalk began, that this was the case, the Sun setup for this role, and right on cue NASA et all issues statements that the solar cycle which was to END in 2000 was going to be a 14 year cycle, ending in 2003.
[13:27] <NancyL> ZT: How did they know this?  No one ever challenges NASA, so this was never determined, but let us say that they made it up.
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[13:28] <NancyL> ZT: Go back into history, during all the solar cycles, and see what horrific effects were experienced.
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[13:28] <NancyL> ZT: Did mankind lose his compasses?  Hardly.  
[13:28] <NancyL> There will be spotty Electro Magnetic Pulse, due to the core swirling, but this will be SPOTTY, not universal.
[13:29] <NancyL> ZT: During discussions within Troubled Times on these matters, it was brought forth that there are shields, of copper wire or whatnot, that can protect against EMP.
[13:30] <NancyL> ZT: We would as general advice guard technology against shattering, being thrown or dropped.
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[13:30] <NancyL> ZT: EMP is so unlikely, that if it does occur is likely NOT to have affected the technolgy over the hill, down the road, etc.
[13:30] <NancyL> ZT: After the shift, mankind will be picking up the pieces, working with what they have, and bartering with neighbors.
[13:31] <NancyL> ZT: This is just another bartering issue to consider.
[13:31] <NancyL> End zT on this matter, followup?
[13:31] <QueenVee>  NANCY: FOLLOW-UP TO PREVIOUS QUESTION: What about when the Zetas are commenting on political situations on earth. Are they to some extent using their untuitive abilities to make predictions, or merely astute analytical observation and analysis? People are very confused on this issue.
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[13:31] <Mike-O> Is the EarthChangesTV web site, which blames Coronal Mass Ejections for everything from lost puppies to burnt toast, a puppet of NASA?
[13:31] <inkpen> the followups flowin in
[13:31] <phoenix> Does EMP affect electronics not in use at the time?
[13:31] <NancyL> The Zetas are very very telepathic.  If someone THINKS a thing, they know it.
[13:31] <NancyL> Where YOU may not be aware of the real reasons for this or that, they are NOT confused.
[13:32] <cmell> and that shield is called Farradays cage I believe
[13:32] <humvee> can we assume that navigation over shorter distance and time periods by compass will be similarly used
[13:32] <NancyL> Can you give me an example that I can address, Queen?
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[13:32] <NancyL> What comment on political situation is supposed to be intuitive, for instance.
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[13:32] <QueenVee> like the likelyhood of bush's handlers assassinating him if he gets out of line
[13:32] <NancyL> MikeO, yes re Earth Changes, the guy gets info from NASA and thinks himself important for that reason.
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[13:33] <ZooSpecimen> the ellection?
[13:33] <NancyL> Phoenix, I'm not an expert on EMP, but think having equipment turned off is better than on, yes.
[13:33] <QueenVee> like predictions of election outcomes
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[13:33] <Okidok> Is Saddam Hussein aware of the coming poleshift??? If he is, why dosen`t he then use this information to spread fear?
[13:34] <cmell> EMP can fry equipment thats turned off
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[13:34] <cmell> but sure it is better turned off
[13:34] <QueenVee> okidok: only US, Russian, and British govts are aware
[13:34] <NancyL> Queen, they are, telepathy wise, IN TRE ROOM when this gets discussed, IN THEIR HEADS when they think this, and KNOW how many think this, whether they have talked to each other, and can calculate the likelihood of success!
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[13:34] <QueenVee> NancyL: thanks, very clear answer!
[13:35] <NancyL> Okidok, I don't think Sadamn is in the inner circle on pole shift info, no.
[13:35] <phoenix> thx
[13:35] <Mike-O> France, Germany, and Japan are aware too . . .
[13:35] <AlphaCentauri> Okidok: And I think Saddam Hussein is highly STS but doesnt' want to be considered as a tyrant but as a God so doesn't want to spread fear.
[13:35] <QueenVee>  Okay, that’s the hour, folks. ANOTHER GREAT SESSION, NANCY! THANK YOU!
[13:35] <NancyL> Thanks as always to Queen.
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[13:36] <NancyL> I have a Queen Q, how is your new Network with Others going, re groups?
[13:36] <QueenVee> Nancy: lots of response
[13:36] <QueenVee> but i haven't got them up yet
[13:36] <QueenVee> working on it
[13:36] <QueenVee> ;-)
[13:36] <QueenVee> thanks for asking....
[13:36] <phoenix> QV, the busy bee!  ;)
[13:36] <NancyL> That's great!  This is something I'm always asked about, and always refuse to get involved in.  I say "I don't coordinate groups or introduce folks to each other"
[13:37] <QueenVee> glad to take another load off ya, Nancy
[13:37] <NancyL> Very happy Queen is doing this!
[13:37] <NancyL> Going to bid bye bye now, onto next session.  Bye
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[13:37] <obany> Let's hope the next session will be just a good ... as in about a couple of days it will be 2003
[13:37] <QueenVee> others were involved in the planning stages
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[13:37] <SteveH> good work Queen!
[13:37] <Michaellss> cya
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[13:37] <galaxyexplorer> Bye
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[13:37] <Kain> Thanks Queen!
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[13:37] <Domicile> Thanks Nancy and QueenVee. Thanks Steve for more pics!
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[13:38] <obany> next session will be in #zetatalk in about 23 minuts ... don't forget ... use /join #zetatalk to get there
[13:38] <QueenVee> The SHIFT2003 website ( http://shift2003.kgmweb.com ) is in the process of setting up a NETWORK WITH OTHERS section to help people connect with other poleshifters in their area -- if you would like to receive further info about that, give QueenVee your email address on a private channel.
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[13:38] <Slo39> wow lots to think about
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[13:38] <phoenix> Good session.  These should be interesting times coming up!
[13:39] <Michaellss> QV gonna ask that question on other room when i get back ill read answer...
[13:39] <QueenVee> she's certainly given me lots of ammo to use in addressing those endless questions
[13:39] <QueenVee> Michaellss: ok
[13:39] <Michaellss> thnx
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[13:39] <Mad_Hatter> Thanks!
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[13:39] <obany> next session will be in #zetatalk in about 23 minuts ... don't forget ... use /join #zetatalk to get there
[13:39] <obany> next session will be in #zetatalk in about 23 minuts ... don't forget ... use /join #zetatalk to get there
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[13:39] <QueenVee> it's interesting, the less we "prepare" for these sessions in advance, the better they are; last-minute questions seem to work best
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[13:40] <QueenVee> Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this channel has ended. She will begin a second ZetaTalk Session in the #zetatalk channel in approximately 30 minutes. To get to that channel, simply type the following and hit enter:  /join #zetatalk
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[13:40] <Zetapal> cmel - see pvt
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[13:42] <QueenVee> thanks zetapal. i'm beat
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[13:42] <cmell> ZP there is no pvt :(
[13:42] <QueenVee> Zetapal: i feel like i happened on a goldmine in figuring out to ask Zetas to re-address certain issues that haven't sunk in...
[13:43] <QueenVee> groomee: you have to type this:  /join #zetatalk
[13:43] <groomee> QVthankyou
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[13:44] <QueenVee> Nancy’s ZetaTalk Session in this channel has ended. She will begin a second ZetaTalk Session in the #zetatalk channel in approximately 25 minutes. To get t